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00:00With all the construction around here, and trying to get people places, tomorrow, Drew and Mark are going to be broadcasting live, 3 to 7 from the Tilted Kilt in Sterling Heights, it's M59 and Hayes, so Hall Road and Hayes, and poor Joey, Joey Marasso, the producer for Drew and Mark, he's going out there from here, and I'm like trying to give him directions, like, hey man, you gotta take 696 to Mound, 18 and a half, to Van Dyke Expressway, you can't just go on Van Dyke,
00:30because there's barrels all over Van Dyke, it's crazy, absolutely crazy, we're going to get Drew and Mark in here momentarily, a little cross talk with the fellas, I'm telling you, take the Vikings tonight, Vikings minus 2, it's going to be a tough game for the Lions next Sunday, and I understand the angst from a lot of fans after yesterday, because of how the game started, that's the biggest thing, the Lions would have gone out there, and just gotten beaten by a better team, and the whole game was, wow, they really missed Levy, or wow, they really missed Warford,
00:58then we'd be talking about something, but, that's not the case, and that was something that was very disappointing yesterday,
01:06and as Denny Kapp told us earlier today, at the Jim Caldwell press conference, Caldwell's not ready to run his team down after one loss,
01:11I don't blame him, not in the least, I'm also not jumping ship either,
01:17I think there's a very good possibility this team starts off 1-3, and is still in a decent position to make the playoffs,
01:23last year, Seattle was 3-3, and in big trouble, and two full games, what, two full games behind Arizona last year,
01:32which was 5-1 at the time, and everybody went, oh, Seahawks are done,
01:37Patriots were 2-2 last year, 1-2, after losing to Kansas City, and Trent Dilfer said, season's over, Brady's run is over,
01:45and they won the Super Bowl, was the Packers, when Aaron Rodgers had to come out and tell everybody to R-E-L-A-X, relax,
01:52right, but what do those three teams have in common, Matt?
01:56Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers?
01:58Yep, and they've won Super Bowls very recent, just saying.
02:02No, I think that's fair, it's just, you know, I do believe, I do believe that the Lions have a good team, I do,
02:12maybe I'm an idiot for thinking that, I think they have a good team, I think they have an opportunity to win plenty of games,
02:19I think they're going to come home during that three-game homestand in October, and do well,
02:24but they've got to get DeAndre Levy healthy, you've got to have him on the field,
02:29I just, nobody knows what his status is, with that hip injury, if he's going to need surgery and everything else,
02:37that's a huge bluff to this defense, he's the best player on the team, defensively,
02:42and, you know, Darius Saleh made a play yesterday, he's a good player,
02:46boy, they threw away from him yesterday, every time he was on Malcolm Floyd, or whomever, Stevie Johnson,
02:53they went to Keenan Allen, they've got to find a way to get DeAndre Levy healthy, they have to, they have to.
03:00Bill Rivers looked great.
03:02He did.
03:03He's got, he's got, he's got big ones.
03:05Poor Theo, poor Theo Gridiron, the Lions are up 21-3, and I don't know if it was Twitter or Facebook,
03:11I noticed Theo put out a post, here's why I picked the Lions, because it's Phillip Rivers, ain't all of that,
03:16I'm like, oh God.
03:17I'm ready.
03:18Oh, poor Theo.
03:22Can you wait until after the game to post that, brother?
03:25Oh, man, good for Theo.
03:27Phillip Rivers ain't all that.
03:32That's like going to a game and going, you know what, Clayton Kershaw ain't all that.
03:36And he throws a no-air on you.
03:37You know?
03:39We're going to talk about the Tigers, Maz.
03:41First day all year that we haven't talked about.
03:43They got, they got, they got a win yesterday.
03:45Split a doubleheader with the Tribe.
03:47I swear, I have no idea what they even do anymore.
03:51You're not paying any attention?
03:52No.
03:52Don't worry either, do they.
03:53I do pay attention to my fantasy team, if I have a, you know, Justin Verlander going, I'll tell you about it.
03:59You realize on Thursday, Brad Ausmus, you know, Thursday night is basically fired, right?
04:04And then all of a sudden, what happens?
04:06Friday and Saturday, both games get rained out.
04:09It was almost like somebody up above said, we don't want Brad ever managing again.
04:12Were they ever going to play?
04:15Friday's game, rained out.
04:17Saturday's game, rained out.
04:18It's like, is Brad ever going to manage again?
04:19And then, of course, they got two in yesterday, but, I don't know.
04:23There's your Tiger update.
04:25Where are they playing today, Minnesota?
04:26Yeah.
04:26The Twinks.
04:28That's right, Mark Fowler, the Twinks, as the man would call it.
04:31I thought those rain outs were God's way of saying, hey, football's on.
04:34It kind of was.
04:35That's kind of how I thought about it.
04:37Although I felt bad for the folks at Fox Sports Detroit, it was their first post-game show that they ran yesterday.
04:42Oh, really?
04:43They were covering the Lions, and they had to put it on Fox Sports Plus.
04:46Oh, I didn't know that.
04:47Yeah.
04:47Oh, that sucks.
04:48Yeah.
04:49I think Shep and Rob Rubick and those guys were on, and they had to put it on Plus.
04:54That would have been a fun one to watch.
04:55Yeah, a little cold ball presser and everything else.
04:58How did they react?
05:00React.
05:00I didn't see it.
05:01Oh, okay.
05:03What's going on, buddy?
05:04How was Saturday in Ann Arbor?
05:06Gorgeous.
05:06Actually, it was really cold.
05:07I know.
05:08It was cold all weekend, wasn't it?
05:09I was very happy to see the old Mays back on the pants.
05:13See?
05:14I'm with you.
05:14I mean, I know the white uniforms were kind of catchy.
05:17Oh, I love the white uniforms.
05:19No, I don't.
05:20I just think the Mays pants are such a classic Friday.
05:23But it's the old Mays.
05:24It's not my highlighter yellow.
05:25I don't know.
05:26It didn't show up, because when I watched film back yesterday, it didn't look as drastic on the TV as it did in person.
05:35But you could really tell the old Mays was great.
05:37That was the big Drew Lane party.
05:39He blew me off again.
05:40What?
05:41I didn't even see you.
05:42I saw your parents.
05:43You walked by me twice.
05:44I was like, Drew!
05:45And you kept walking.
05:46I swear to God.
05:47I swear to God.
05:48Hold on, hold on, hold on.
05:49I swear to God.
05:52Drew and Mark are in the studio.
05:53All right.
05:54So, you throw a pre-game match, correct?
05:57Yep.
05:58Mark is there.
05:59Apparently.
06:01You guys work together every day.
06:04You're really good friends.
06:04That's why he doesn't want to talk to me on the weekend.
06:07He sees me here in the week.
06:07You didn't see him?
06:09I was looking for him with your parents.
06:11You watched him.
06:11Did your parents say they spoke to me?
06:14Yeah.
06:14I walked in this.
06:15You couldn't see him.
06:16It's pretty big.
06:17It's a lot of people.
06:18But right when I got there, because I went with Patrick, and Patrick actually said hi to
06:22you, and you said hi to him.
06:24I was like, oh, man.
06:25You weren't with him.
06:26You weren't sitting with him.
06:27Not when you said hi to him.
06:28No.
06:28But when we got there, we walked by, and you walked right by him.
06:30Drew!
06:31It was really funny.
06:32I'm walking.
06:35It's a big party, and there's a few people throwing it, so we have wristbands.
06:39People actually check in.
06:41Wristbands?
06:42Well, and he keeps riffraff on.
06:44Right.
06:45Okay.
06:46Anyway, I walked in with your parents.
06:48I'm like, you don't need to do that.
06:49We just walked in, and your mom's like, are you sure?
06:52I think she thought she was a...
06:54Yeah.
06:55Mark, Mark, Mark.
06:56I was busy.
06:57Mark's missing.
06:58No circumcision.
06:59Naz is texting some of the listeners back on our text screen, and Mark's hitting the
07:03backspace button.
07:04I was doing it for the live race, like, four lines while he's typing.
07:08Stop.
07:09Why are you doing that?
07:10I'm only doing it because he's arguing the Tom Brady thing again.
07:14Again?
07:15If a guy's going after me, I'm going to go back.
07:16Brady destroyed him.
07:17They didn't need his phone, Tom.
07:20They told him they need his phone.
07:20Would you just shut up?
07:21Keep your hands off the keyboard.
07:22Oh, my God.
07:23I'm just going to touch him back.
07:26Who's your buddy?
07:26Why am I drawing a blank?
07:27Riley.
07:28Yeah.
07:28Was Matt there?
07:29Yeah.
07:29He's such a nice guy.
07:30Yeah.
07:30Very nicer guy.
07:31I don't know.
07:32He's a good man.
07:32He's making fun of my jersey.
07:34What jersey did you do?
07:35My Harbaugh jersey?
07:35My Harbaugh jersey, yeah.
07:36You know what?
07:37That's actually a good topic.
07:39Is it okay to wear that jersey?
07:41Is that sort of...
07:42He was making fun of it because I'm fat.
07:43I'm too fat for it.
07:44So it was too exciting.
07:45Really?
07:46That sounds pretty mean.
07:47What do I care?
07:49I think you're looking good.
07:50I don't know.
07:51I'm selling out.
07:52I'm packing on it.
07:53No, you just keep arguing with the listeners on text.
07:55Riley.
07:56Yeah, but it's okay.
07:57I love it.
07:58That's not nice.
08:00Tom, I'm saying it's okay.
08:01No, I said it's not okay.
08:02But it's okay if people make fun of me.
08:04I don't care.
08:05Well, you should care.
08:06Why?
08:07Because it's not nice.
08:08They don't do that to other brothers.
08:11You okay, man?
08:12Yeah, I'm good.
08:12No, he's mad about this guy texting about Tom Brady.
08:15I thought that was dead and buried.
08:17Well, he texted me because he thinks I'm a hypocrite.
08:19Because I blew off Dindamig and Sue kicking a guy's helmet off.
08:23No, I didn't.
08:23Did I blow that off?
08:25I blew it off.
08:26But Brady gets, you know, they want to suspend him four games and they won't suspend Sue.
08:30Sue's on tape.
08:31Doing it.
08:32The worst is Adam Pacman Jones.
08:34He, like, decapitated.
08:35That was awful, man.
08:36And he's getting a fine.
08:38Come on.
08:38Tell me he's never done a curb job before.
08:40Oh, yeah, of course.
08:41That was ridiculous.
08:43That's a two-gamer, at least.
08:45He knew exactly what he was doing.
08:46Drew, he's done so many.
08:47It was just natural instinct to do what he does.
08:48Well, he forgot he was in a football game.
08:50Yeah.
08:50I know.
08:51By the way, listening to WMGC-FM HD1 Detroit, where would you guys put the disappointment meter on yesterday's line?
08:580-16, they're never going to win.
09:00Here we go.
09:01Pretty high.
09:02I think it's pretty high.
09:02It was awful.
09:04Yesterday was terrible.
09:05Up 21-3.
09:06They haven't had a loss like that since 1990.
09:09Against the Redskins.
09:10Well, like that.
09:11But we've seen plenty of those type of losses.
09:12But it's not just that they lost.
09:14It's how they lost.
09:14No, I agree.
09:15It was not good.
09:16They lost with a tired, beat-up defense.
09:18Yeah, and that's the offense's fault.
09:20Yes, the offense did not have it yesterday either.
09:22Mark doesn't make it.
09:23I put 85% of it on the offense.
09:25I'm afraid that Stafford did not do what I thought he was going to do.
09:29Maz is coming around.
09:30You're right.
09:31I'm coming around.
09:32I'm just saying he didn't do good yesterday.
09:33I'm disappointed.
09:34This is the second game in a row.
09:36The playoff game and this game.
09:37The offense put the offense to sleep for the entire second half.
09:41Maybe it's wearing the blue uniforms on the road.
09:43They wore blue in Dallas last year.
09:45Who gives up 30 straight?
09:47The Lions.
09:47Not many teams give up 30 straight points.
09:50Except the Ravens.
09:51Well, you have to stop scoring to do that.
09:53Yeah.
09:53They just needed to sustain a drive.
09:56The play calling made no sense.
09:58And I know some of it is unstaffered.
10:00It should be.
10:00To check off and do something else.
10:02But we need to get close enough to try to kick a field goal.
10:04No.
10:04They're not throwing to Calvin Johnson the entire game?
10:07What the hell is that?
10:08Unbelievable.
10:09Doesn't somebody on the sidelines say,
10:12Hey, by the way, just so you know,
10:13you've had two targets in two and a half quarters,
10:16Calvin Johnson being number one receiver in the entire world.
10:19You might want to work something out here.
10:21Yeah, it's funny.
10:22That wide receiver position, historically, has been a group of A-holes.
10:27You know, Keyshawn, Irvin, these guys.
10:29Calvin may be too nice.
10:31Because most of the time, the receivers are guys that get on the sideline and go crazy.
10:35And Calvin, he doesn't do that.
10:37You know, this might be nitpicking, but they had a time.
10:40And I know you all know that I love to go for it on fourth down.
10:42But they had fourth and short on their own 39 after the pick six that they threw.
10:46Correct.
10:47Go for it there.
10:48Establish some kind of dominance.
10:50It was 21-20.
10:51They just scored.
10:51Keep moving the ball.
10:52Yeah.
10:52They just scored 17 straight points.
10:54It was fourth and like a foot.
10:56I know.
10:56He was terrified given that defense a short field, which was already starting to get gassed.
11:00Okay.
11:01But I'm with you.
11:01I'm with you.
11:02The pros so outweigh the cons in that scenario.
11:05You keep the defense off the field for a couple seconds.
11:07You go first down.
11:08You build more on them.
11:08I think Martin's punt bounced the other way.
11:10Was that the one that bounced the other way?
11:11Yeah.
11:12And I love Sam, all right?
11:13We all love Sam.
11:14He's my fan player.
11:15Sam's awesome.
11:16Boy, oh boy.
11:17Come on, guys.
11:17You've got one job to do, man.
11:19The Giants gave up two touchdowns in the last couple of minutes of glass nights.
11:22That's the worst clock management.
11:24One of the worst clock management I've ever seen.
11:25Can I ask you a question about that game?
11:28Did you have a problem with the play call to throw?
11:31No, no, but Manning's got to slide.
11:35Just get down.
11:36It's the execution more than the play call, right?
11:38Yeah.
11:39Correct.
11:40All right.
11:40You can't let that ball hit the ground.
11:41Because Koffel's getting skewered for the play call.
11:43Because he took the blame.
11:45How about when they reset the clock like ten different times in that last couple of minutes?
11:49Remember?
11:49Put 40 seconds on the clock.
11:51Put two minutes, 40 seconds on the clock.
11:53The fish are getting really frustrated.
11:55I know.
11:55But then Eli snaps the ball with 17 seconds to go.
11:59Get back in the hole, man.
12:01Yeah, that was bad.
12:02Well, could he not see the clock or something?
12:04I don't know.
12:04Just stupidity.
12:05Maybe he just lost track of what the hell happened, too.
12:09Yeah, that was very...
12:10Not a good day for the Mannings yesterday.
12:11No.
12:12At least one of them got a win.
12:14Yeah.
12:15But no touchdown.
12:16No.
12:16Right?
12:16No touchdown.
12:17And supposedly he was not even close on any of them.
12:21Well, he overthrew...
12:21That's funny, because all the...
12:23With Peyton...
12:23It's a problem, man.
12:24Yeah.
12:25Then he can't throw the long ball.
12:26But he overthrew Sanders like three times.
12:28Crank those suckers.
12:29Yeah.
12:30It's weird watching the game where the quarterback threw deep.
12:33Long ball.
12:34Stafford didn't do it.
12:34They did in the beginning.
12:36That's what I mean.
12:36They didn't stretch the field.
12:37Really, second through four quarters, it was nothing deep.
12:40No, I know, but those first two drives, it's like they had...
12:42You know, they're script plays.
12:43Right.
12:44So why is the game plan totally different from the scripted play?
12:47I know.
12:48They ran that swing pass to Abdullah, the high snap, never ran it again.
12:52Question about that.
12:53On the quick out to Golden Tate, never ran it again.
12:55Question about that, when Stafford couldn't handle that snap and dumped it off really quick,
12:59which was great.
13:00Yeah.
13:00Sure, a mere score on that play.
13:02He kind of ran into everybody.
13:04If he cut back to the left...
13:05No, there were guys in front of him, but it was almost like he ran into the pile as opposed
13:09to going left around him.
13:10I thought he should have been gone on that, or could have been gone on that play.
13:14How about one of the late handoffs to him, and then Stafford like pushed him through
13:17the line.
13:17Oh, yeah.
13:18And he almost...
13:18He got him off pallets, I thought.
13:20Remember?
13:21I don't know.
13:22If they want to put blame on Stafford's arm being injured in the sleeve, then why is
13:27he out there?
13:27Right.
13:28Then take him out.
13:28If you're healthy enough to be on the field, I will say it was fun to watch Abdullah and
13:32Malvin Gordon.
13:33Gorda.
13:34They both look like they're pretty good backs.
13:36Yeah, Gorda is great.
13:37I don't know, Abdullah takes away from the Theo Riddick package, so I'm a little bummed.
13:40And the Joyke Bell packages.
13:42Riddick got his touch.
13:44Yeah, he got two catches, but he never got a kick.
13:47They're like, the other point.
13:48I'm like, wait, it took him until two minutes up in the fourth quarter to get in the game?
13:52Another point.
13:53I heard somebody say, well, the Lions did score three touchdowns on nine drives.
13:56I'm like, first off, that touchdown on the end, don't even count that.
13:59I know, come on.
13:59So now if you have two touchdowns in eight drives, you also had two turnovers in those eight
14:03drives, too.
14:04That's pathetic.
14:05How about Joyker, Drew?
14:07What did you think of Joyker?
14:08He had a couple of nice catches, but he only ran the ball six times.
14:11That's his first game back.
14:12He didn't practice a lot.
14:16He didn't have much of a training game.
14:17He's so positive.
14:18I love him.
14:19He is the best.
14:20I'd like to see him carry the ball a little more.
14:21Me, too.
14:22But he looked a lot.
14:23A little thunder and lightning?
14:25Yeah.
14:25Yeah.
14:26No, I thought it was a combination, actually.
14:27I mean, Abdullah looks incredible.
14:29The Xenergizer bunny got in for a couple of times.
14:31Oh, yeah.
14:31He was active.
14:32Taking away from Xenergizer.
14:33Xenergizer was two for six, but yeah, he was taking carries away from Joy.
14:37And Theo.
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14:41What's up, guys?
14:42Oh, boy.
14:44What a lousy game that was.
14:45I know.
14:45It sucked after what was just a brilliant Saturday for Michigan and Michigan State.
14:49Great Saturday.
14:50I was walking around like a peacock yesterday.
14:52We went, what, 21 to 3.
14:53Really?
14:54I'm so excited.
14:55Tub, you know better.
14:59I'm so excited.