The Jeremy Kyle Show 11th November 2011
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00:00You are a dirty old man. You keep your hands off me.
00:04I've never ever put my hands on you.
00:06Have you now? Look at me properly then.
00:08Yeah, I will. I will look at you properly.
00:10You're dirty old.
00:12I'm here to represent...
00:14She returns to discover if her fiancé is the father of a 16-year-old she's never even met.
00:19You're the one that left me when you were pregnant with him.
00:21Am I, yeah, yeah.
00:22Yeah.
00:23And I did, why was he so violent?
00:24Yeah, you smashed three records up. I wasn't violent at all.
00:26Yeah, you were.
00:27What about the car you threw in the car you threw in the car?
00:30The DNA test results show that Dave...
00:35The woman whose partner cheated while she was pregnant.
00:38And what was this you found out two days, only two days ago, when he knew he was coming here?
00:42I said confess something. Might as well tell me now it's gonna come out.
00:44And he confessed to leave me to the girls and kiss him one.
00:47And the woman who claims her ex-fiancé is a sex addict.
00:50About three months into the relationship,
00:52some girl contacted me to say that she was engaged with him.
00:56Pregnant-based twins, but she'd miscarried.
00:59She knew everything about him.
01:02That's all on my show. It's next.
01:04Hello, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:25Now don't forget, next week we'll have brand new shows on a brand new set.
01:29But this week I'm looking back at some of the most memorable shows from 2011
01:33and finding out just how the guests have been getting on.
01:36I'm sure you remember my first guest today, Jen.
01:38She came to the show to confront her mum's husband, James,
01:41whom she claimed was trying to sleep with her.
01:44Jen told us that she'd received suggested text messages from James
01:47and that he'd made a pass at her.
01:49And she was determined to tell James to stop harassing her
01:52and stay out of her life for good.
01:54Let's take a look at what happened.
01:56Your stepfather, James.
01:59He's a dirty old pervert.
02:01That's a start.
02:03How long has he been with your mum for?
02:05Back to you.
02:06Has he ever come on to you in person?
02:08I mean, like, has he ever...
02:10When I've been on the bus.
02:11What?
02:12When I'm on the bus.
02:14When I'm on the bus.
02:15I had my miniskirt on.
02:17You had a miniskirt on the bus?
02:18I had a miniskirt on, yeah.
02:19And he put his hand on my leg.
02:20Did he?
02:21Yeah.
02:22Now that is disgusting.
02:24He even actually did it when we were in Blackpool.
02:27He doesn't love me mum.
02:29He's only there for the money.
02:31Doesn't he lick his lips when he walks past you?
02:33I'll tell you what he actually does.
02:35You show me what he does.
02:36He goes like this.
02:37When my mum's not even looking.
02:40Every time when my mum's not looking, it's like he does.
02:43I'm feeling slightly traumatised this morning.
02:46You'll have to bear with me on this.
02:47Now you're getting married in two months to Dave, the love of your life.
02:50And you don't want James or your mum at the wedding?
02:53No.
02:54Why would you want your day spoiled?
02:56Who rang this show?
02:57I did.
02:58What did you want to say to him?
02:59I'm quite scared of you.
03:00What did you want to say to him?
03:01I've only got my mum.
03:02Now he is manipulating, controlling my mum.
03:07And I think that is right, wrong.
03:09So I think he's trying it on with you.
03:11He's controlling your mother for her benefits money.
03:13I don't know why.
03:14And you believe today...
03:15He's talking.
03:16Today you're going to tell him he's a...
03:17What did you call him?
03:18A pervert.
03:19Shall we get him out?
03:20Yeah.
03:21James is on the show, ladies and gentlemen.
03:23Well, please.
03:24Please bring me back there again.
03:31You dirty old man.
03:33You keep your hands off me.
03:34I've never ever put my hands on you.
03:37Look at me properly then.
03:38Yeah, I will.
03:39Yeah.
03:40I will look at you properly.
03:41You dirty old pervert.
03:42I'm here to represent your mother.
03:45Represent my mother?
03:46No.
03:47You're a control freak.
03:48No.
03:49That's not what you are.
03:50You're a control freak.
03:51You're a manipulator.
03:52Yeah?
03:53No.
03:54That's what you're in.
03:55It's for money.
03:56Money.
03:57Money.
03:58No.
03:59Yes, it is.
04:00You disgust me.
04:01I've never ever once took any money off your mother.
04:05Yes, you have.
04:07Yes, you are.
04:08Did she flirt with you?
04:09She did it one time.
04:10Why would I want to go near you?
04:12You're ugly.
04:13You're a freak.
04:14That's lies.
04:15You are a freak.
04:17That's lies.
04:18Have you sent her these text messages that she says?
04:19Never.
04:20I only ever sent one text message.
04:21Did you?
04:22And it was over the money.
04:23What money?
04:24That's getting you borrowed.
04:25She said you sent dirty messages.
04:26No.
04:27I never did.
04:28Dirty text messages you sent to me for an even day of seeing them.
04:29Don't whip your way out of that.
04:30Whip your way out of that.
04:31Yes.
04:32I don't have to work my way out of that.
04:33Because you're dirty.
04:34You're dirty scruff.
04:35She says you're using her mother for money.
04:36That you're with her money for money and that you are basically after her sexually.
04:39No.
04:40No.
04:41Never.
04:42Yeah it is.
04:43You're something, I'll tell you what, right.
04:46You're in fantasy land.
04:47You think I'll come on to you, touch you.
04:48You're ugly.
04:49Look at me.
04:50Look at me.
04:52At least I have a quite body girl.
04:55You know what I mean.
04:56You're in fantasy land.
04:57You think I'll come on to you, touch you.
04:59You're ugly.
05:00Look at me.
05:01Look at me.
05:02I'll at least have a quite body girl.
05:04You know what I mean?
05:05Look at me, at least I'm a quite body girl, you know what I mean?
05:09You say that the interesting part of this story centres on the fact that it is Jenny who owes you and her mother money.
05:15How much money is that?
05:17Well, there was a...
05:18Jenny borrowed £300.
05:21Right.
05:22But her mother gave her £400 because she wanted the extra...
05:26How much does she owe you? Let's cut to the chase.
05:28£260 at the moment.
05:30£140, I owe you, but you're not getting a penny back of it
05:33because she nicked me mobile contract phone, two phones out of my house.
05:38You have nicked because she said, oh, I want to buy this for £20, me contract phone.
05:42And then within half an hour, there were other you and me one there and you nicked it.
05:46Don't kick the water over. Who's Dave? Is that your fiancé?
05:49Yeah.
05:50You get Matt, father of the baby?
05:51Yeah.
05:52Of course. Dave's on the show, ladies and gentlemen.
05:57I'm sorry, Dave.
05:59You are not a bugger liar.
06:01Right.
06:01I'm all right. I'm not going to shout.
06:03I'm not going to kick off.
06:04Just sit down.
06:04Sorry, Jeremy.
06:05No.
06:05You are nothing but a liar.
06:07Sit down.
06:07Right.
06:07And there was only two people in that house when them phones went missing.
06:10It was you and her mum.
06:11You're going to blame her mum for it?
06:13No.
06:13And also, about the money situation, what the hell has it got to do with you?
06:16It's not your money.
06:17It wasn't your money in the first place.
06:19But at the time, Jenny said to me that the phone has gone missing.
06:24It was me in the house, a mother in the house, and you in the house.
06:27Has he really tried it on with your girlfriend, fiance, wife-to-be, whatever?
06:32I've seen him put his hand on her leg on the train.
06:36We've got a statement from Edna.
06:38Is it Edna?
06:39Yes.
06:40Shush.
06:40Edna's not here today because she's not very well in representing her.
06:43No, that's why I've got a statement.
06:44I've got a statement from Edna.
06:45Your mother, your wife.
06:46I want Jen in my life, but she needs to change and treat me with some respect.
06:51Jen still owes me £260, and I find it hurtful she'd rather spend it on gambling than paying
06:56her own mother back.
06:57In the past, Jen has sent me nasty text messages calling me a fat b***h and saying you're no
07:02mother of mine.
07:04It hurts me that she feels this way.
07:06My husband, James, means the world to me.
07:08He is a kind and considerate man.
07:10He did not come on to my daughter, Jen.
07:11I would have seen it happen.
07:12If she wants me back in her life, she needs to start showing James some respect.
07:17I would like myself and James to come to the wedding, and I want to have a relationship
07:20with my grandchildren.
07:22I just hope that my daughter, Jen, can leave the past in the past.
07:25She doesn't blame him at all.
07:26Do you love her mother?
07:27Yes.
07:28Are you after her mother?
07:29Mother's money?
07:30I've never talked anything of her mother's money.
07:33But you know what?
07:34Even if you don't get on with him, it doesn't mean you have to close the door on a relationship
07:37with your mother, yeah?
07:40I've had a word with your team here, and we're going to try and...
07:43Right, Jeremy.
07:44What I would actually like, right?
07:46I don't want him in my life, right?
07:48Because what he's done, right?
07:50That's what I want.
07:51It's a relationship with my mum on her own, where I see my mum on my own.
07:55Is that all right with you?
07:56Because she's the only parent she's got left.
07:58Is that all right with you?
07:59Whatever Jenny has decided, she's decided.
08:02But her mother has turned around and said she can't accept that.
08:05All right, we'll work with you and your mother after the show.
08:09Now, I've been in contact with James, Jen and Dave to find out what's been happening since
08:14the show.
08:14And Jen and Dave said, myself and Dave have got married since the show.
08:18We've had a baby boy.
08:19We no longer speak to James and Edna, but feel life is better without the constant rouse.
08:24James says, after the show, Edna and myself decided to catch contact with Jen and Dave.
08:29Jen made out that I just wanted Edna's money, but it's not true.
08:32I love her dearly.
08:34We are happier without them in our lives.
08:37You know what?
08:38This wasn't Jen and Dave's only appearance on the show.
08:40They returned for a DNA test to find out if Dave was the father to a 16-year-old that
08:45he hadn't seen for over eight years.
08:48After this break, you can find out exactly what happened.
08:51Well, this is where I've got my three lovely kids.
08:53I've got one on the way.
08:55Where's yours?
08:56With your dad.
08:57Yeah.
08:58And the only one is six more tongues in, if you must know.
09:01Ooh.
09:02Welcome back.
09:08Now, I'm looking back today over some of the most memorable shows of last year before
09:12our brand new shows start next week.
09:15Next, we'll meet Dave and Jen again as they return for a DNA test to discover if Dave is
09:20the father to his ex's 16-year-old son.
09:23Dave claimed that ex-Margie cheated on him during their three-year relationship and walked
09:27out on him when she was seven months pregnant.
09:30Let's find out exactly what happened.
09:32Why are you back on the Jeremy Carl show?
09:34Right.
09:35I'm on here because my partner, my ex-partner, who had a boy, I've got doubts that he's mine
09:42for the simple reason.
09:44She admitted she cheated on me when she was pregnant with him and I want closure, basically.
09:53I want to know whether he's mine.
09:54I want to know why she left me.
09:56She left me, smashed up records of my collection that I had that were worth a lot of money.
10:00She ripped me clothes up.
10:02Sorry, sorry, sorry.
10:03Um, she smashed up your record collection?
10:07Yeah.
10:08Just left and left me.
10:09I was actually in a job at the time.
10:10Any specific records?
10:11They were actually Queen Records.
10:13They were limited edition.
10:14They were worth quite a bit of money.
10:16Right.
10:16Um, so I got a phone call from the landlords where we were staying, saying she's gone.
10:24I don't know what she's done to the room, but she smashed it up.
10:27Um, the thing I don't understand, Dave, and I'll be honest, is you want closure, yeah?
10:31I want closure, really, because I've got...
10:33This was 16 years ago.
10:35Why didn't you do it six weeks after?
10:37Right.
10:38I went to solicitors to try and sort this out.
10:41I've been to a lot of solicitors.
10:44I had obstacles thrown in my way.
10:46Her and her father have been an influence in this, her father especially.
10:50I got told the only way I could see him was going to her father's, right?
10:55I've never been violent towards her.
10:57I had a blackout because I was on my tablets.
11:00I was on antidepressants, right, for years.
11:03And I was drinking with them.
11:04There was one instant I had a blackout.
11:06Why would you drink with antidepressants?
11:07I know.
11:08I wasn't in the right frame of mind at the time, right?
11:10I've given up the drink, and I'm on my antidepressants.
11:13I've got a lovely lady now.
11:14I'm in a happy relationship.
11:16We're getting married, and I want him at the wedding, if he's mine.
11:19I've still got doubts.
11:20Why?
11:20And I want it sorted out.
11:21Why?
11:22Why have you got doubts?
11:23I've got doubts because she cheated on me when she was pregnant.
11:25How'd you know that?
11:26Because she told me two years after.
11:28So you went to see him two years after you and she split.
11:32I've only seen him a maximum of that eight or nine times in the last 16 years.
11:38What you did say was that you felt that actually, you know, he's been poisoned against you, yeah?
11:42He has.
11:43I've never had a chance to speak out about how I feel about him.
11:47What sort of mother do you think she might be?
11:48Erm, well, she actually had him taken off her for neglect.
11:53Not painting a very good picture.
11:54He was due to go into care, but her dad took over the residency.
11:58You haven't seen her for how long?
11:59Oh, it must be seven, eight years now.
12:03Margie is on the show, ladies and gentlemen.
12:09You are one big joke.
12:12Am I, yeah?
12:12Big joke.
12:13All right, well, what about the cheating on me?
12:15I didn't cheat on you, didn't you?
12:16Yes, you did.
12:16You cheated on me.
12:17You told me two years after we split up.
12:19Liar.
12:19Liar.
12:20You told me two years after we split up.
12:21Liar.
12:22I'm not lying at all.
12:24Liar.
12:24You're the one that left me when you were pregnant with him.
12:27Am I, yeah?
12:28Yeah.
12:28And it is why he's a liar.
12:29Oh, yeah, you smashed three records up.
12:31I wasn't violent at all.
12:32Yeah, you were.
12:32Oh, right.
12:33What about the time you threw his eyes at me?
12:35Did I have an ankle when you batted me?
12:37I didn't even batted you.
12:38You did.
12:38You batted me.
12:39You've got no proof of it.
12:41You're a liar.
12:41Any man can facialise an egg, but it takes a big amount to be a dad.
12:45Yeah, is that right?
12:46Yeah.
12:46Have you ridden it?
12:47Have you ridden it?
12:47Have you ridden it on me?
12:49I didn't cheat on you.
12:50Have you and your dad clobstacles in the bed?
12:52Right, why is your next thing?
12:53I've got a headache.
12:54Mark, what?
12:55Margie, welcome to the show.
12:57Be quiet.
12:57You need to answer the allegations that he made.
12:59You told my team we planned the baby, but when I fell pregnant, Chris, Dave, rather, wanted an abortion.
13:06Yeah.
13:07Why did he want an abortion?
13:07And then he said, I'm going to go and ask mummy for advice.
13:10Was he violent?
13:11Yeah, very.
13:12No, I wasn't violent at all.
13:13You were the one that threw knives at me.
13:16When you were seven months, six and a half months pregnant, do you remember?
13:19Do you remember the time when we, when we, when we, when we, when we, when we, when we,
13:22and you knew you weren't allowed to drink, it was a change of violence.
13:26It's got nothing to do with the alcohol issue.
13:28Do you remember when he turned up in the car, bladded?
13:30And he asked Christopher a hug, he said, no, don't want to, dad, because you're drunk.
13:33And then you booted me in the legs and said, this is your fault.
13:35Did I?
13:36Yeah.
13:36Well, all because of that, I had an emotional breakdown when you left me.
13:39Did you, yeah?
13:40Yeah, I did.
13:41Did you?
13:41Yeah.
13:42And what are you saying there about when I got Christopher taken off?
13:44My youngest son died.
13:46Yeah, I know we did.
13:47He got hit by a car, he was eight years old, he died in my arm.
13:50Did you get a card off me?
13:50Yes, you did.
13:52Where were you dead for Christopher?
13:54When you, he really needed you, when his brother died.
13:56Your dad has been a controlling influence in his life.
13:58Excuse me.
13:59The same as you have.
14:00What about him and his mother?
14:02Where were you?
14:02Yeah.
14:02Well, I was meant to be his dad or so say, but you cheated on me and admitted to it two years after.
14:07Yes, you did.
14:08Okay, Dave.
14:09Whatever you say.
14:10Yes, you did.
14:10Sorry, Margie, just a question.
14:14Have you poisoned young Chris against Dave?
14:16No, Chris has got his own mind.
14:18Do you think that Dave has done enough?
14:19No.
14:20You say the only thing that this guy has ever done is let Chris down.
14:23He hasn't paid for anything, he hasn't kept in contact.
14:25When he was four years of age, Dave turned around to him and said,
14:29I'll come on your fourth birthday with a big car, but you operate the one that the kids can sit on.
14:33You're full of it because I had compensation.
14:36Hang on a minute.
14:37My hallway.
14:38I'm without my sake.
14:39I call it Jeremy.
14:40He said enough.
14:41No, I haven't.
14:42Yeah, you've had your sake, have you?
14:44I haven't even started yet, Mr. Dave.
14:47I haven't started yet.
14:49Margie.
14:50Don't forget Elizabeth Allen in the middle, all right?
14:53Jeremy Kyle.
14:54I'm going to tell you something, right?
14:56I had compensation.
14:58Oh, did you?
14:58You were hanging around me like a fly around rubbish.
15:01Oh, was I?
15:01When I had the money.
15:02Oh, rubbish, that's why you always have been rubbish.
15:04Hang on.
15:04When that money went, you stopped me seeing him.
15:07Yeah.
15:07And you and your dad have stopped me seeing him.
15:09Why does your dad keep being mentioned?
15:11Because my dad's the only one that's been there for me when I was bringing Christopher up.
15:15Christopher lives with Norman, your dad.
15:17Yeah.
15:17Why is that?
15:18Because not long after my youngest son died, I wasn't there emotionally for Christopher.
15:21No, it was neglect he was taken off you for.
15:24Yes, it was.
15:25Because I rang the social services.
15:26Did you know that she lost her youngest son?
15:29Yes, I did.
15:30And I sent a letter of sympathy to her.
15:32Nice of you.
15:32I would have thought that might have had an impact.
15:34I'm not here today.
15:35I'm not here today because I don't want to interfere in Chris's life, says Norman, your father.
15:39I've never stopped Chris seeing his father, but in my opinion, he feels too let down by his dad
15:44and doesn't want anything to do with him.
15:46I am disgusted that Dave is demanding a DNA test after 16 long years.
15:50In the last four years, I've been more of a father to Chris than Dave ever, ever has,
15:54and I am not convinced that Dave will ever be able to correct the situation.
15:58Well, I'll tell you what.
15:59My new partner, I took three kids on, two with special needs.
16:02If I'm this bad person, right, why do those kids think the world of me, Margie?
16:07Tell me that one.
16:08Talking amazingly about it, you said that Dave...
16:10You finally grew up a pair of...
16:11No, I grew up.
16:13You still haven't.
16:14Oh, I've done a hell of a lot of growing up.
16:15No, you haven't.
16:16When your own kid dies in your arms, you'd have to f***ing grow up or eight.
16:20Yeah?
16:20Well, you're forgetting.
16:21Am I?
16:21You did not.
16:23You weren't there for Christopher because you would always merit mourning his brother.
16:28No, I wasn't.
16:28Yes, you were.
16:29Do you know what you just said?
16:30My both kids have got a mouth.
16:31Do you know what you just said?
16:33I even lost the will to shout this morning.
16:35Do you know what you just said?
16:36Yeah, I know what I've just said.
16:37She wasn't there for Christopher because she had to deal with the mourning from losing her son.
16:41Why did it take you 16 years to get off your back?
16:43Because I was having problems.
16:45I don't know.
16:46I don't know.
16:47I don't know.
16:48Hang on, Jeremy.
16:49Why is it that people like you say you were having problems?
16:52Do you think your kid wasn't?
16:53Now you're sorted.
16:54Do you think you can do that?
16:55He's had problems for 16 years.
16:57Yeah, I know he has.
16:58I know he has.
16:59You should have done it before, mate.
17:00No excuse.
17:01You said, did you not, Margie, that Dave's girlfriend has tried to contact your son on Facebook.
17:06Yeah.
17:06You say she should stay out of it.
17:08It's got nothing to do with her.
17:09Well, they're engaged.
17:10What do you want to do?
17:10Play happy family with my son?
17:11And she says you've got to back off her fella.
17:14Jen's on the show, ladies and gentlemen.
17:17How dare you talk to my partner like that?
17:23It's all right.
17:24Sit down, please.
17:25It's all right.
17:25Sit down.
17:26How dare you?
17:27What do you do?
17:28Showing your violent later?
17:30Showing your violent later?
17:31Who do you think you are?
17:32Have you told Jeremy that you shouted at Christopher when he was here one day and he stood in the corner shaking?
17:37Oh, whatever, Dave.
17:38You know what?
17:39Yeah, exactly.
17:39You talk, you just talk about a bit of a day, have you?
17:42You've gone to him.
17:42You never change it.
17:43You still haven't grew a backbone.
17:45I have.
17:46And that's why I'm answering you back.
17:48Have I, yeah?
17:48Yeah.
17:49And I'm getting, I want answers from you.
17:51You don't mean to be funny, darling, but this has got nothing to do with you.
17:54Nothing to do with you.
17:54I want you to have a lady to have a tip.
17:56Because you, and you, can turn around.
18:00I'm pregnant with his baby and this has got to be his ass.
18:02God bless you, don't you?
18:03Is that right, yeah?
18:05She's treated me far better than you ever did.
18:07Yeah.
18:08She didn't throw knives at me.
18:10She didn't expect everything from me.
18:12Take, take, take, take, take.
18:13That's all you wear.
18:14I was, I, yeah.
18:15Yeah.
18:15Okay, darling.
18:16And all the time I was with you, I found out you were a liar and a cheat.
18:18You admitted to me.
18:19Right, I don't know who you.
18:20Who are you?
18:23Hold on one second.
18:24Hold on one second.
18:24Thank you, Jen.
18:25Is this your mate, Carla?
18:26Yeah.
18:27Carla, what are you showing up for?
18:28I said he's never done any given to a son.
18:30Oh, do you know you?
18:30I don't even know you.
18:31I know Christopher.
18:32I know Christopher.
18:33And I know she's received not an officer.
18:35You weren't there at the beginning when I was with her, when she treated me like more.
18:38Do you want me to go on the set?
18:38I'm married.
18:39You haven't got a clue.
18:40How do you know?
18:41All you've heard is her side of it.
18:43I'm here to put my side.
18:45I contacted the show.
18:45I know you haven't been there for your son.
18:47She didn't.
18:48I know you haven't been there for your son.
18:49I know you haven't been there for your son.
18:49Hold on one second.
18:50Hold on one second.
18:52What's your view on this, Carla?
18:54They've both got the features of a rat and the morals of an alley cat.
19:00Has he not done anything in your mind then?
19:02Because you're a mate of, you know, you're a mate of hers and Margie's and she's brought this child up.
19:06What sort of mother is she?
19:08As far as I'm concerned, a good mother.
19:10Did you break his queen records up?
19:11Oh, I, yeah.
19:12They felt great.
19:13There you go.
19:14That's your convincing tip you are.
19:20Jen, you don't look very happy with her.
19:22You look particularly hacked off.
19:23What is it?
19:24Do you want him back or something?
19:25You can't.
19:26I'm marrying him.
19:26Oh, you do.
19:26You want to sit here.
19:28I'm marrying him.
19:28Then go back with that.
19:30Wait, that's what the hell is that?
19:31That?
19:32Look at you.
19:33Look at me.
19:34I'm more bad here than you.
19:35Yeah, aren't you?
19:36You love that?
19:37You've been a f***ing stick.
19:42What do you think?
19:42What do you think?
19:43I don't know why he started in the first place going out with you.
19:47Have you looked in the memory recently?
19:49Oh, Lordy, Lordy.
19:49Oh, Lordy, Lordy.
19:52Hang on, hang on.
19:55Do we hear what your son has to say?
19:57If he's your son?
19:57I'd love to know what he says.
19:59And that's the truth, because I don't know the results.
20:00You say she shouldn't be here, but they are having a baby in a couple of weeks' time.
20:04And I want him at the wedding if he's my son.
20:05Why would you want an impossible wedding if you don't think he's yours?
20:08If he is proven to be mine, I want him there.
20:10Do you have a telling you cheated?
20:11No, you're a liar.
20:13We have a statement from your potential son, Chris.
20:18I feel angry that my dad has never been there for me, and that is the reason I don't want
20:23anything to do with Dave.
20:24He is my dad.
20:26My mum wouldn't lie to me.
20:28But even if he wasn't, I wouldn't want him in my life.
20:31It's too little, too late.
20:33I want Dave to stop sending me messages online and leave me alone for good.
20:38Should we do what we came here to do and find out the truth?
20:43Yeah, and you know when he gives you the card?
20:44Maybe stick that on your fridge, right?
20:46Or stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
20:47Oh, shut up.
20:49Won't shut up.
20:50Grow up.
20:51You grow up?
20:52I'm already grown up, thank you very much.
20:54Yeah, can't we see that?
20:55But that's why I've got my three lovely kids.
20:57I've got one on the way where it's yours with your dad.
21:01Yeah.
21:01And the other one is six foot hundred, if you must know.
21:04Ooh, I'm scared.
21:07No, love, you didn't mean it like that, do you have to me?
21:09I have to turn my son's life support machine off.
21:12My son, you know, son died in my arms.
21:14He lived for two days.
21:15We are going to concentrate on Chris.
21:17Be quiet, all of you.
21:18Give me those DNA.
21:19I'm very sorry about that.
21:19I've got the wrong...
21:20Be quiet.
21:21All right.
21:23There's an overview, right?
21:2416 years is too long.
21:26However you dress it up.
21:28I'm sorry that you had to go through what you did.
21:31There's too much anger.
21:34You say that she admitted to you...
21:38...that she cheated.
21:39Yes, she did.
21:40She gave you doubts.
21:41But you waited and left those doubts for 16 years.
21:44Through one reason.
21:45You've never paid for nothing for Christopher.
21:47Haven't I?
21:48No.
21:48The DNA test is on.
21:49I'm going to leave my ears because it's free.
21:52No, it's not.
21:53You're here because you stayed in a hotel overnight because it was free.
21:55I've got a left DNA.
21:56I may represent my son.
21:58Will you shut up, both of you?
22:00This is about a 16-year-old boy.
22:03The DNA test results show that Dave...
22:06HE SIGHS
22:07HE SIGHS
22:07HE SIGHS
22:08HE SIGHS
22:08HE SIGHS
22:09HE SIGHS
22:09HE SIGHS
22:10HE SIGHS
22:10HE SIGHS
22:11HE SIGHS
22:11He is your child.
22:12HE SIGHS
22:13HE SIGHS
22:13HE SIGHS
22:13HE SIGHS
22:13HE SIGHS
22:14HE SIGHS
22:14HE SIGHS
22:15HE SIGHS
22:15HE SIGHS
22:15HE SIGHS
22:15HE SIGHS
22:16HE SIGHS
22:16HE SIGHS
22:17HE SIGHS
22:17HE SIGHS
22:18HE SIGHS
22:18HE SIGHS
22:18Thank you very much.
22:20Jeremy, I told your researchers, right, I'd be gutted either way.
22:24Gutted that I haven't been in his life for this many years, through one reason or another, whether it's my mental health, whatever.
22:30And then being stopped from seeing him.
22:34You speak too much.
22:35It's not about words, it's about actions.
22:37You have a 16-year-old son. I'm going to repeat something to you.
22:39And whether there's anything you can do about that, I don't know.
22:43I don't want anything to do with Dave.
22:45He is my dad. My mum wouldn't lie.
22:48But even if he wasn't, I wouldn't want him in my life.
22:51It's too little too late.
22:52You can say one thing.
22:54Now we're all calmed down.
22:56This woman has been the consistent feature in his life for 16 years.
23:00I'm sure there was lots of rancour and argument between you both, and right and wrong on both sides.
23:05But it's about a kid.
23:06And I'll tell you what you have to live with, my friend.
23:09You have to live with the fact that whether she was responsible in part, or you could have done more, or the illness,
23:1716 years is a hell of a long time for a kid not to have his father in the life.
23:21And that's wrong.
23:22And you can hardly blame him.
23:24If there is going to be any form of contact, and this is my advice, I think it has to come from Chris.
23:30I think you need to allow him to make that move, or not, as the case may be.
23:35The one loser, my friends, in all of this, has been Chris.
23:38It's Chris, yeah.
23:39Right?
23:39And the most important thing is that this ends, and Christopher gets to live his life.
23:45Since the show, we've been in contact with Jen, Dave, and Margie to see how they've been getting on.
23:50And Dave and Jen told us,
23:51As ever, let's hope that in time, bridges can be built between father and son.
24:19Importantly, though, they all now know the truth, and that's the first step.
24:24We wish them all the very, very best of luck.
24:27Now, after the break, can double lie detector results save a relationship that is at breaking point?
24:32We're right back.
24:32What do you mean?
24:34See you, jokers.
24:37Why did you just walk off the stage?
24:38Because you're all jokers, you don't believe me, dear.
24:49Personality when you met on Facebook?
24:54In their underwear, on their profile picture, and you've added them.
24:56I don't understand about things like that.
24:58But what do you mean you poked him?
25:00There's a button on Facebook, on the homepage.
25:02You press poke someone.
25:03You just poke them.
25:05Then they can poke you back.
25:06Why don't you all spend less time writing on each other's walls?
25:09I found out you've been talking to this like on Facebook.
25:12So you poked him, he poked you.
25:14See, there was a lot of poking went on.
25:17That's what you do.
25:17Do you smell that?
25:18Poke.
25:21We've all blocked you off Facebook now because it's pathetic.
25:23Oh, God, it's that social net.
25:25Look, I don't want to know about that.
25:33Welcome back.
25:34As I continue to revisit the most memorable shows of last year,
25:38you might remember my next guest, Dionne.
25:40She came to the show with partner Mark, desperate for the truth.
25:42Now, Dionne claimed that he cheated on her while she was pregnant,
25:46but that she was the one getting constantly accused of being unfaithful.
25:49They came for double lie detector results.
25:52Take a look at this.
25:53Let's just talk about you and Mark.
25:55How long have you been together?
25:56Well, about the sixth month.
25:59About five years now.
26:00Five years.
26:01Yep.
26:01Strange arrangement.
26:02You don't actually live together.
26:03No.
26:04That's why I'm a bit fingy about it,
26:06because he's not been with...
26:07Obviously, him living at his mum and doing what he wants.
26:09Why does he live at his mum's?
26:11Because he...
26:11I don't know.
26:12He just likes living at his mum's.
26:13So you're at home with the kids,
26:15and he's at his mum's,
26:16and what, he pops round, he sees the kids and...
26:18Yeah, he sees the kids every day.
26:19He comes round every day.
26:21His accusations, you say, are driving you absolutely mad.
26:25Yeah.
26:26Get accused every day.
26:27Every day.
26:27What does he say?
26:28That I've been out cheating.
26:30He thinks that...
26:31Because he's not there most of the time,
26:33that I have people in my house, and I don't.
26:34I'm constantly never having the money in my house,
26:36apart from my family.
26:37Has he cheated?
26:38Because I was saying in the introduction
26:39that you split up for a while, didn't you?
26:41Yeah, six months.
26:42Okay.
26:43And then you got back together,
26:44and what was this you found out two days,
26:46only two days ago,
26:47when you knew he was coming here?
26:48I said confess something.
26:49You might as well tell me now,
26:50it's going to come out,
26:51and he confessed to sleep with two girls,
26:52and kiss him one.
26:53So why are you still with him,
26:55and why are you set on this stage,
26:56and why haven't you kicked his backside into touch already?
26:58Because I want to prove I've not done something,
26:59and I want him to change,
27:00because I know without his mates,
27:01he's a good person inside the house.
27:04He's brilliant with his kids and stuff.
27:05Sometimes he's like...
27:06But he's out every weekend,
27:07and he freely admits he does coke every weekend,
27:10and you're sat here defending him.
27:12He's a father.
27:13He's got three kids.
27:14He doesn't actually live with you,
27:15and he's making you do a lie detector.
27:17Basically what you're saying is he doesn't do an awful lot.
27:20You do it all.
27:20So what is it with his infidelity,
27:23his lack of concern as a father,
27:24and his inability of not taking drugs at the weekend
27:26and getting drunk,
27:27what is it that you find attractive about this man?
27:29Because I'm struggling.
27:30I'm being straight with you.
27:31Because when he comes round on his own,
27:34he's a good person,
27:36but apart from them drug-taking,
27:37he's not...
27:38Apart from the drug-taking.
27:39Somebody told me,
27:40I could be wrong,
27:40I'll just pluck this out of the sky.
27:41He spends £200 a week on cocaine.
27:44He can do, yeah.
27:45I've had people come to my door for that.
27:46People from him,
27:47and I've asked him why they've come to my house,
27:49and he's...
27:49Because he owes money.
27:50And I say, what's it for?
27:51And he goes,
27:52don't say anything.
27:52So obviously I know what it's for.
27:54So drug dealers are coming to your house
27:56that he doesn't live in,
27:56where you're living with the kids
27:58because he owes drug dealers money.
28:00Maybe I obviously come from a different planet
28:01or a different age.
28:03We've talked about the drugs.
28:04We've talked about the fact he's not there.
28:05He goes out.
28:06He's not a particularly good father.
28:07He's really horrible to you.
28:08And then he demands sex, like that.
28:10He doesn't demand it.
28:11He asks for it.
28:12He doesn't say,
28:13oh, you don't do it, I'm going.
28:14He just said, oh, whatever then.
28:15Five times a week?
28:16Yeah.
28:17Who does he accuse you of sleeping with?
28:18Anybody.
28:19Anybody.
28:19Let me get this absolutely right
28:21before I bring him out.
28:23Mark, 29,
28:25who you've kids with, three,
28:27lives with his mum,
28:29doesn't do an awful lot for the kids,
28:32spends up to £200 a week on cocaine,
28:35comes around and demands sex
28:36when it suits him,
28:38is absolutely horrible to you,
28:40and basically is on the show today
28:44to prove that you've cheated.
28:47But let's not forget,
28:48two days ago when he knew he was coming here,
28:50he says, and I quote,
28:51oh, by the way,
28:52I had sex with two women
28:53just around Christmas time.
28:54Yeah.
28:55He said, well, fun.
28:56Why do you need a lie detector?
28:58Why don't you just leave?
28:59Settle down with me more.
29:09I think you've got doormat
29:10printed on your forehead.
29:12Let's get him out.
29:12Mark's here, ladies and gentlemen.
29:21Jokers, mate.
29:22Are you taking the mickey?
29:23I mean, do me a favour.
29:25Are you taking the mickey?
29:26What do you think this is?
29:27You live with your mummy
29:29while she's got three kids.
29:30You go around and beg to get your leg over
29:32and you spend £200 a week on cocaine.
29:35What is it about you she should say with you?
29:36How can I spend £200 a week on cocaine?
29:38Why would she be with you?
29:39I'm struggling.
29:41Why don't you spend any of the money
29:42you spend on drugs on your kids?
29:46Why don't you do that?
29:47What?
29:49What do you really do?
29:51I'm really struggling now.
29:53I'm really struggling.
29:54What the hell do you think this is?
29:57Me bird.
29:58Me bird?
30:00It's not your bird, is it?
30:02Why is she doing a lie detector test
30:04when you're the one two days ago
30:05she pretended or apparently admitted
30:07that you cheated twice?
30:10Oh, just get me mind at rest.
30:13Get your mind at rest.
30:14You cheated.
30:15How did you do that?
30:16How did you meet these two women?
30:18Where did you meet them?
30:19In the pub.
30:21Do me a favour or I'm going.
30:22Tell him exactly the truth
30:25about this joke.
30:27Why can't you just don't worry about it?
30:28You're not though because you're going to get on.
30:30That's for cocaine now, mate.
30:31Yeah, we know that.
30:32Why don't you stop taking cocaine?
30:34Spend the money on your kids.
30:35Get off your backside and get a job.
30:37That might be a good idea.
30:38What is this?
30:41What is this?
30:43Do you work?
30:44No.
30:45No, of course you don't work.
30:47So who's buying your drugs?
30:50I'm not going to say that on national television.
30:52Where did you get the money to buy your drugs?
30:54Because they come and knock on her door
30:56when you're home with your mummy
30:57saying he owes mum...
30:59My mummy, my mum.
31:00Whatever.
31:00Get it right, don't call her mummy.
31:02I call her mum.
31:03Oh.
31:04Why don't you try and be a daddy
31:06to your kids then?
31:07How many times have you split up?
31:09Once.
31:09Once for six months.
31:11That was a straight six months.
31:13So you don't know about
31:13what she's been doing six months?
31:14Yeah, but I got by from
31:15sleeping with people.
31:16Sleeping with Tom, Dick and Aaron
31:17and I get told.
31:18So what do you want me to do?
31:19But she's not with you then?
31:20Yeah, but I thought it would be people
31:21but I could have said so.
31:22What do you want me to do?
31:23Go around and beat them all up.
31:24You just let...
31:25I've got to be really, really honest, right?
31:29I'm really sorry, by the way,
31:30to the production team and everybody.
31:31I don't give a monkeys
31:32about those lie detector results.
31:33I think they're a complete
31:34and utter waste of time.
31:35Two days ago when you knew
31:36he was here, he was going to go,
31:38oh, I have slept.
31:38Two days ago?
31:39Two week ago?
31:40Before we come in on.
31:41I've got two weeks ago.
31:42He told her two days ago
31:44that you cheated with two other people.
31:46Yes or no?
31:46Yeah.
31:47You've got to see it
31:48from our point of view.
31:49It was only two days ago
31:50you told her.
31:50And what's enough?
31:51Cheats twice?
31:52Seven times?
31:53Fifteen times?
31:54If he comes back
31:55he's done anything else
31:56and I'm going,
31:57I know I did the wrong thing
31:58and all that
31:58because he's told me
31:59but if he comes back
32:00I suspect they'll come back
32:02absolutely whatever they say
32:03you'll go,
32:04okay, let's go home together
32:05dear sweet Mark.
32:06Do you know how I feel sorry for?
32:07Not from your point of view.
32:08I feel sorry for your kids.
32:09You're their dad, are you?
32:10Yeah.
32:11Really?
32:12Brilliant.
32:12Let's do those all-important
32:13lie detector results
32:14and you're getting her to do one
32:15because when you're on
32:16a six-month split
32:16she had sex with three men.
32:18Why are you moving the chair?
32:19Because of what I'm moving away.
32:20You what?
32:21Because I'm moving away,
32:22don't I?
32:22He thinks I'm going to fail it.
32:24That's why.
32:24Why are you moving away down there?
32:25That's what you think.
32:27It's not because you've cheated, is it?
32:28No.
32:30We asked Dion since the restart
32:32of your relationship with Mark
32:33have you had sexual intercourse
32:35with anyone else?
32:38She said, no, I haven't.
32:42Guess what?
32:43She was telling the truth.
32:47Where did that?
32:48I told you you didn't believe it all, did you?
32:50I swear, I don't know.
32:51I just swear to God,
32:52I don't know what to say your kids
32:53and I mean it
32:54because you're not going to do them anyway.
32:57I mean, I'm part of meeting other questions
32:58because obviously
32:59you start from a kiss
33:00and then you end up to
33:00intercourse the last thing.
33:02Well done.
33:02What the hell?
33:03She's dead right.
33:04She passed the whole test.
33:05There you are.
33:06Good girl.
33:07Absolutely.
33:07Brilliant.
33:10So yours now?
33:11Did you grab them or go?
33:12No.
33:13No, I said you want it.
33:14I want her to look at them for a minute.
33:15You've put her through hell, haven't you?
33:16No.
33:16So you keep saying...
33:17This is what I'm struggling with
33:18and I'm really sorry
33:18if it sounds shallow
33:19but what has she got?
33:22What has she got?
33:23A bloke who doesn't look after his kids,
33:25a bloke who spends whatever spare money
33:26he can punts off people
33:28on cocaine,
33:29a man who doesn't work,
33:30a man who's, what,
33:31comes around and demands sex.
33:32What do you think you are?
33:33Some sort of Lothario?
33:34Why should she jump into the sack with you?
33:36I'm a gigolo.
33:37LAUGHTER
33:38Shall I tell you what you are?
33:46Cheat.
33:46That's what it is.
33:47I'll tell you what you are.
33:48You're a joke.
33:48That's what you are.
33:49How can you call me a joke
33:51when you don't know me?
33:52You can't judge me.
33:53You don't know where I'm from.
33:54You don't know nothing about me.
33:54I know that you're not a good father.
33:56I know that you take cocaine
33:57and you cheat on her.
33:58So why would I give a damn?
34:01I don't know, mate.
34:03We asked Mark,
34:04since you restarted your relationship
34:05with Dionne,
34:06apart from the two women
34:07she'd just found out about,
34:08have you had sexual intercourse
34:09with any other person?
34:10He said no,
34:10because he was telling the truth.
34:12What do you do, mate?
34:13What's that, though?
34:14See you, jokers.
34:19See you, jokers.
34:20What?
34:21Why?
34:22You only passed
34:23because you admitted two days ago
34:25that you cheated.
34:26No.
34:27Why did you just walk off the stage?
34:29Because you're all jokers.
34:30You don't believe me, dear.
34:31Believe what?
34:31I'm telling the truth.
34:32I'm telling the truth.
34:33Yeah, yeah, you passed the whole thing,
34:34but guess what?
34:34What?
34:34You only admitted it
34:36two days ago.
34:37And do you know what?
34:38You can do one.
34:39You can go where you want.
34:40Because I'm going to convince her
34:42she's better on her own
34:43than being with you,
34:43you waste of space.
34:45I'll say it to you.
34:46Whatever.
34:49Are you sure?
34:51I mean, really?
34:54Let's just,
34:55let's just,
34:55just bring this down a minute.
34:57For me.
34:59Forget then.
34:59What is in that relationship
35:05for you,
35:06for those kids?
35:07And you're sat there
35:08because he's the father of your kids
35:10and you're thinking,
35:11I want to make this right
35:12because I'm sure everybody's said to you,
35:14you've had kids with him,
35:15this should work,
35:15this should work.
35:16I'll be really honest with you, darling.
35:17Kids never make a relationship,
35:19I know that.
35:19You're going to keep putting up with it,
35:20are you?
35:21No,
35:21obviously I'll speak to him.
35:24See how he's reactive
35:26from being on here
35:26because obviously
35:27you don't know his reaction
35:28because his wife's up.
35:29It's a little,
35:30little secret.
35:32If you said no to sex
35:33for a month,
35:34guess what?
35:35You've got some there.
35:35You'd never see him.
35:37He didn't care about you
35:38or those kids.
35:39I know.
35:40We're going to talk to you backstage.
35:41Go that way.
35:41Dion, ladies and gentlemen,
35:42give a round of applause.
35:43Thanks for the hour.
35:44I recently contacted Dion and Mark
35:46to find out how things have been
35:48since the show
35:49and they say,
35:50things couldn't be better
35:51between us, Jez.
35:52We now live together,
35:53the relationship is going
35:54from strength to strength.
35:55We trust each other completely
35:57and are much more
35:59of a family now.
36:00Great, great to hear
36:01things are going so well.
36:02We all at the show
36:03wish them the very best of luck
36:04for 2012 and beyond.
36:07Now, after the break,
36:08the woman confronts the ex.
36:09She says is a sex addict,
36:11but is he also a cheat?
36:13I'm right back.
36:14About three months
36:14into the relationship,
36:16some girl contacted me
36:18to say that she was engaged
36:19to pregnant with his twins,
36:21but she'd miscarried.
36:23She knew everything about him.
36:24How many women
36:25have you slept with?
36:27I know back in November
36:28when I actually named
36:29every single one
36:30I could think of
36:30in the 70s.
36:31or after.
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36:59Welcome back. Now, this week, I'm revisiting some of the most memorable shows of 2011 before brand new shows start next week. Don't miss them. Now, I'm sure you remember my next guest, Adele. She came onto the show to confront ex-fiancee Danny. Adele described her ex-fiancee as a sex addict and claimed she'd found him looking at swinging websites.
37:25Despite all of this, Adele told us she was considering getting back with Danny. Take a look at this.
37:32Let's just talk about you and Danny. I know you have kids from a previous relationship. I want to concentrate on you and him. How long ago did you get together?
37:42During last year.
37:43OK. How did you meet?
37:44It was through, like, a Facebook website.
37:47You say we clicked straight away.
37:49No.
37:49I thought that was funny.
37:50Um, now, let's just talk about this relationship because this guy is extraordinary from what you've told us.
37:59Mm-hmm.
37:59Tell us what happened.
38:01About three months into the relationship, um, some girl contacted me to say that she was engaged to him, pregnant with his twins, but she'd miscarried.
38:12Um, she knew everything about him.
38:15What do you mean she knew everything about him?
38:16She knew if it can occur to go. She knew his children's names. She knew stuff that she really wouldn't know if they hadn't spoke.
38:25Did you confront him?
38:26Mm-hmm.
38:27What did he say?
38:28Not true.
38:28Not true. Made up.
38:30Let's just talk about him because you believe that he's been on swinging websites.
38:35He was last weekend.
38:36How do you know that if you're not with him?
38:38He told me.
38:39I still talk to him.
38:40You still talk? What did he tell you?
38:42That he was talking to some woman and after ten minutes, he went round to her house and had sex with her while her husband was upstairs in his bed.
38:49How many women does he claim to have slept with?
38:51I don't know.
38:53He doesn't tell me nothing like that.
38:55What are you here to do then? Are you here to get him back or warn other women that this guy is just, you know?
38:59I'm here to get him help because it's not really normal to meet somebody after the internet after ten minutes of speaking to them.
39:05He says that he's highly sexed, he doesn't use protection because he doesn't need to, women find him irresistible.
39:16How could you spend nine months with this?
39:18Because he was not like that.
39:20He wasn't like that. How did you know when he wasn't up too privately? Why are you trying to help somebody? He doesn't want to help, does he?
39:24Yeah, but he says he wants help.
39:26Who rang this show?
39:27Him.
39:27What, because he wants to change?
39:29Mm-hmm.
39:29Do you think he can?
39:32To begin with, I thought me and him could get back together, but...
39:35But all those women behind your back?
39:37But I don't know for definite. I only know he won.
39:40One?
39:40I don't know for definite because...
39:42Let's see what he has to say, shall we? Because I think he's been taking you for a ride.
39:47I think I know what I meant. Danny's on the show, ladies and gentlemen.
39:49APPLAUSE
39:50You're having a laugh, right?
40:00No.
40:01I'm just doing what every man's dream is.
40:04LAUGHTER
40:04Right, let's just, let's just start this. This lady, first of all, on a genuinely honest note, cared about you, loved you, wanted to be with you in a very genuine way.
40:16She says that you didn't treat her that well. Would you agree with that?
40:20I probably not treat her nice all the time, but it works both ways. Don't treat you right, you don't treat them right.
40:26What do you mean by that?
40:28Just sometimes it just gets too much and you look for reasons not to go home.
40:33Yeah, yeah, but you were always at home. Well, you weren't always at home, but is it true you had sex three to five times a day?
40:38Sometimes, yeah.
40:40Without protection?
40:41Without protection.
40:42Are you a self-confessed sex addict?
40:44Yeah, I know I've got a problem and that's why I'm here today.
40:46How many times did you cheat behind Adele's back? She's still under the impression it was only once. Be honest.
40:52Truthfully, a few.
40:53How many?
40:55Um, at least...
40:57Double figures?
40:59I can at least think four or five people, but more than once.
41:04And the person in question, which...
41:06So it's through these websites, so you say...
41:08So you did get a pregnant eye and it was your wings that she lost, even though you swore to me.
41:13You did not, and you've no got two wings, you've got three.
41:14Because you're a wee boy, because you've got a wee lassie.
41:19But you seem to think I forget the wee boy that's died in your house when you were meant to be in America in between Christmas and New Year.
41:26He's not my biological son, no.
41:28Like, he's because I've seen the message in Plenty of Fish when you logged up.
41:32Yeah, but he's not my biological son.
41:33Just when we were together, I brought him up as mine.
41:35You told my researchers I tell women what they like to hear.
41:39Yeah, you tell them...
41:39You tell them in the sense of that you're not looking for a one-night stand.
41:43You go up there, you just blag it until you get what you want.
41:47And then I have a friend text me and tell me he's broke down so I can move on to the next one.
41:52It was like three or four weeks ago, Dad.
41:54No, it wasn't supposed to sleep together. It wasn't planned, was it?
41:56It wasn't planned. You were the one that initiated it. No, me.
41:59You had sex with him?
42:00Mm-hmm.
42:01How many women have you slept with?
42:04I know back in November when I'd actually named every single one I could think of in the 70s.
42:08Are you proud of this, are you?
42:10I'm not proud of it. I want to change and that's why I'm here today.
42:13You heartless woman.
42:15Yeah, I have. And this is why I wanted to be truthful with her now.
42:19Because I'm a coward and couldn't do it face-to-face.
42:20It's probably the most shocking story in all of my time of doing The Jeremy Kyle Show.
42:25That once, because you realised that you were having unprotected sex and everybody knows what I think about it, I think it's vile, right?
42:33Do you care about women at all?
42:35Do you ever think you'll reach a point where women suss out that you are nothing more than just, I don't know?
42:40I know I am and that's why I do...
42:42Do you not think you're telling them lies?
42:43Do you not think you're trying to, in a way, give them false hope?
42:46Because that's what I've always said about online.
42:48I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Many people meet online and it's fine.
42:51But you spin them a yarn. Don't most of them shut the door in the face when you arrive anyway?
42:55No, I've turned up there and you tell them what you want to hear.
42:58There was one person I actually went and met about a couple of years ago.
43:02And I went in and it really didn't do anything for me.
43:06So I told her I had some wine in the van and went outside in the van and drove off.
43:09What do you tell these women then?
43:10When you say to me, I tell them what they want to hear, what are you talking about?
43:15What do they want to hear then?
43:16Um, well, in the sense of you suss what they like and stuff and what they're into and you're into similar things to them.
43:24In ten minutes?
43:25Yeah, you pick a lot up on them.
43:27You're nothing more than a male prostitute, aren't you?
43:29Well, no, because I'm not charging for it. They pay my payroll. I charge them for my payroll, yeah.
43:34I charge them for my payroll, yeah.
43:41No, I'm staying out of this one. You can carry on.
43:44You don't. Can I, can I say this very calmly?
43:47You don't need help. You don't need help. You sit there boasting.
43:50When this goes out, nobody will touch you with a barge pole, trust me.
43:53Well, that's what I want.
44:01I certainly want to help. He should chuck his laptop in the van.
44:04It would be on the road with a good.
44:05You can't be sitting here thinking, I want a relationship with that.
44:08I don't know. I think I want to happen more than any of us.
44:12Is it true that you actually wanted to be back with her?
44:15Um, no, I don't.
44:17That's actually, I think, I may, a few weeks ago and recently, I probably said at the time,
44:20but the problem, my problem is, which, which is not helping, and you're a nice person, and...
44:26Too nice.
44:27Yeah, too nice.
44:27You've used her and abused her and made her feel useless.
44:30You'll go home tonight and start banging away on your laptop, won't you?
44:33She brings it on herself.
44:35What do you mean?
44:35She brings it on herself.
44:37She has no feelings for me. Why does she keep putting money in my bank to keep me talking to her?
44:41Because your wayne's won't they're going to have any food, apparently, because your fridge is broken.
44:45Why do you keep listening to his bull? Why don't you ignore him? Why are you sleeping with him two or four weeks ago?
44:51You know what he is.
44:52I know.
44:53It ain't going to get any better.
44:55You need to walk away from him.
44:56The day there's... That's just what I'm doing the day. I temple last night. After the day that's it, I'm trying to...
45:01You sleep with him last night?
45:02No, I didn't.
45:02Did he try and sleep with you last night?
45:03No, you just had his core keys in his core, so he couldn't come. That's what he said last night, anyway.
45:08You love this, don't you?
45:09He does. He was sitting backstage, showing everybody on his wee laptop for all the lasses they had slept with.
45:14Are you going to stop sleeping with him?
45:16Aye.
45:16Are you sure?
45:17Mm-hmm.
45:17You can't have a relationship with that.
45:19Could you... Could you do me a favour, lovely man on camera four, could you just point the camera very, very directly at his face,
45:26so that the whole screen is made up of his face? Is that all right?
45:30So I just... I just want women to know, whether you are sad and lonely or on a computer, this man is dangerous.
45:36This man should not be approached. This man... This man will tell you whatever you want to hear.
45:42I'd ignore him.
45:48Seriously.
45:49So you... You have to know that. You have to believe that, OK?
45:56You OK? Why are you upset, then?
46:00Feel like he's taken advantage.
46:04That's the reality of what you do.
46:06That's why you're vile.
46:07She tells me to delete a number. I don't speak to her for days.
46:10She's in love with you, you idiot, and you've abused that trust and that belief.
46:14And when you leave this building, I hope you go off with your computer, but I hope people see you for what you are.
46:19Look at you. You don't need help.
46:22I do.
46:23No, you don't.
46:24You need to fall in love...
46:25You have it.
46:25You need to fall in love with somebody who does the dirty of you.
46:28Get out of my face. I don't even want to see it anymore.
46:30Go away.
46:35OK?
46:37It's a reality, right?
46:38I can sit here and I can pretend everything's fine.
46:40He's disgusting.
46:41He just... You know, he mistreats women.
46:43You are worth more than this.
46:44We're going to help you, OK?
46:46All right, you go that way to Graeme.
46:47Give her a round of applause.
46:49Since the show, I've spoken to both Adele and Danny.
46:52This is what they told me.
46:53Danny first.
46:53He said,
46:54After the show, Adele moved in with me, but sadly we ended up splitting.
46:58I'm glad it's all worked out the way it has as I'm moving on.
47:02The help from the show really turned my life around,
47:04and the aftercare team are second to none.
47:06Good to hear.
47:07Adele says,
47:07After the show, everything was great until I found out that Danny was cheating on me.
47:11When we split, he took everything I owned and left me homeless.
47:14It's made me stronger, and actually I'm happy being alone.
47:17I've moved on.
47:18I'm happy again, and I'm looking forward to the future.
47:22Good to hear they're both able to move on with their lives.
47:24I wish them all the very best of luck separately for the future.
47:27I am for this morning right out of time.
47:29Do not forget, brand new shows start next week on our brand new set.
47:33Thank you so much for watching.
47:35I'll see you very soon.
47:35Take care.
47:36Bye-bye for now.
47:36Bye-bye for now.