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00:00Bonjour à tous et bienvenue dans cette nouvelle vidéo. Aujourd'hui on va discuter de l'impact ou
00:04plutôt des impacts de l'intelligence artificielle pour les métiers de la santé et les opportunités
00:09à venir pour les étudiants. Cette vidéo elle s'inscrit dans le cadre de la campagne Révèle ton
00:14parcours mis en place par Educolia qui consiste à vous présenter différents profils qu'il s'agit
00:18d'étudiants ou de professionnels pour vous aider dans le choix et dans la poursuite de vos études.
00:22Je m'appelle Laura Orvelli, je suis cofondatrice d'Educolia, l'entreprise qui vous aide dans
00:26votre réussite académique et professionnelle. Aujourd'hui j'ai eu le plaisir d'échanger
00:30avec le docteur Zahman Saha qui a un parcours riche entre Kentucky University, Alabama University
00:36and Harvard University. Donc aujourd'hui on va discuter ensemble sur ce sujet et rester bien
00:41jusqu'à la fin car il a donné de nombreux conseils qui sont bons à prendre pour les étudiants mais
00:46aussi pour les professionnels. La vidéo va être en anglais mais bien sûr des sous-titres français
00:50vont être disponibles.
00:51We can all agree that artificial intelligence is transforming the healthcare industry from
00:56improving diagnostics to personalizing treatments. As AI continues to evolve, it is shaping career
01:03opportunities and the skills required for future healthcare professionals. Today, we are diving
01:09into this exciting topic to explore its impact and what it means for students preparing to
01:16enter the field. First of all, thank you doctor for joining us to discuss this topic.
01:20Firstly, thank you Laura for this opportunity.
01:23I have a few questions for you today but before we begin, I know that you have a background
01:28in medicine, an MBA and also a specialization in AI. Could you walk us through your academic
01:36journey?
01:37Yeah, I'm a physician. I'm a healthcare executive and an AI entrepreneur. Have nearly 15 years
01:47of clinical and leadership experience. Did my internal medicine residency training from University
01:54of Kentucky. You know, since the beginning and outside during my training as well as my early career
02:00career as a physician, I quickly realized that, you know, the physician's time was mostly burdened
02:11and taken by, you know, insurance compliance, administrative burdens and documentation. And there was
02:19really much little time left for, you know, for the actual human connection for interacting
02:28with patients and doing what to, you know, sort of signed up for to begin with. And that was sort
02:35of the insight that stayed with me later on leading to my entrepreneurial journey. But in order to
02:43understand things more from an operational and system side, I realized I think an MBA would help me a lot.
02:53And that's how I ended up doing my MBA from University of Alabama and Birmingham.
02:59And then later, I did some executive education at Harvard University specializing in healthcare
03:07AI and digital healthcare transformation. I think all these experiences were important and sort of uniquely
03:16giving me giving me the perspective and opportunity to know the problem firsthand myself from my experience.
03:24And at the same time, having a broader perspective of the way systems and operations work. And then knowing how
03:32technology can be incorporated to solve some of these biggest challenges. So I think it's been great that it's
03:40shaped in the form of Medway, that's the healthcare AI company that I'm leading presently.
03:47How is artificial intelligence transforming the medical sector in general? And how has it impacted your personal experience?
03:57I would say this is a time where AI is impacting everything and we see that. And healthcare is no exception.
04:04In fact, innovation in healthcare and transformation in healthcare has been, I would say, long overdue for so many reasons.
04:13There is so much inefficiency in the system. There's so many administrative burdens to optimize and take care of.
04:23And there's such fragmented access to information in healthcare that is leading to wasteful spending,
04:33that is leading to physician burnout, that is leading to poor patient outcomes.
04:38And AI has a tremendous and transformative potential to optimize all of these processes.
04:45You know, it can automate some of the, I would say, non-intellectual, redundant, repetitive tasks for physicians that are so time consuming,
04:55freeing them time to have a more direct engagement with their patients.
05:00At the same time, also having time for themselves and having a more restored work-life balance.
05:08At the same time, you know, it can address so much in terms of inefficiency and reduce the wasteful spending.
05:16And I think the last part, which is going to be next frontier in healthcare innovation is the interoperability front,
05:23where the access to data in healthcare is so much limited and fragmented.
05:29Like when you go to one practice, they have a piece of your information and then you go to another and they have a piece of your information.
05:36And it would be so incredibly powerful if, you know, a decision maker who's going to make, you know, decision for your healthcare,
05:46had at the point of care access to all of that information, you know, and so that would be so much powerful.
05:55And in that context, of course, you know, AI has so much transformative potential.
06:01In a more personal way, of course, you know, I have seen all the pain points through my personal experiences and I know the potential of technology.
06:12And sort of using that potential to alleviate those pain points is what, you know, what we're working on with Medway in this space.
06:23What are the advantages of having dual or triple expertise in today's world?
06:28Yeah, I would, this is a very interesting and important thing.
06:34I would say, I think in today's world, it's not like a, I would say having this is not just the strength, it is becoming a necessity.
06:47You know, especially moving forward, I believe any specific domain that you're specialized in, knowing the business side of things, knowing the technology side of things is going to be an absolute must.
07:02Because we're, you know, leading into or going into a world where things are rapidly changing and evolving and it's really important to stay, you know, up to date with what's happening in the world of AI and technology.
07:18And also in order to build solutions at scale or at least understand how things are going to evolve in the future, it's also important to have good business acumen.
07:28So it's really important to have this sort of multifaceted understanding of things where you're a domain expert in one thing, but you do have at least some understanding of the, you know, disciplines that sort of crossover.
07:44And that is going to be a distinct advantage people will have over time.
07:50Yeah. And regarding to that need, what guidance would you offer to a student hesitating between multiple fields of study?
07:59So I would say, I think the way I would look at it is I would say you don't have to look at your interests as competing.
08:10You consider them as complimentary.
08:14And, you know, if there's multiple things where you seem to have interested, you know, seem interest in, you focus on one primary or sort of core, you know, area that I would say, but don't leave the other things where you have interest.
08:31They are going to be very important and useful for you down the line.
08:35And, you know, I have personally been through this experience, being a physician and knowing the healthcare world.
08:41But I think the insights and power and knowledge and understanding that doing an MBA and specializing in healthcare AI has given me has been of tremendous value.
08:53And I think this is how we need to look at the world ahead of us.
08:58You are the leader of Medway, a comprehensive AI solution streamlining clinicians' workflows.
09:03What needs were you aiming to address when creating Medway and what is the story of the company?
09:10I would say the story is deeply personal.
09:14I have been, you know, in different roles in healthcare, both as clinician and leader for, you know, nearly 15 years.
09:24And I have seen an ever increasing burden of documentation.
09:31I have seen how fragmented access to information compromises, you know, patient care and so many other challenges.
09:41And over time, I have also seen that technology has been improving and maturing into something that can optimize and take care of a lot of those problems.
09:53And I think this was a unique opportunity for me to see in terms of getting that technology, incorporating that into those workflows to optimize those things.
10:07And really what we're doing with Medway is, and this is one of the way we kind of differentiate ourselves, is that we're looking at the problem more holistically,
10:16not just focusing on a single problem, you know, that a physician is facing, but really trying to optimize every intersection of physician and technology.
10:27And that way providing, you know, providing, you know, the most value in the process.
10:32So really it's, you know, automating the documentation process, also optimizing and automating the data retrieval process, improving access to information and sort of optimizing and automating the quality and value based care aspects.
10:53And this really produces a holistic solution that really restores the human connection in healthcare where physicians have more meaningful engagement with their patients.
11:05And at the same time, you know, they have more time for themselves to have a more balanced, you know, work life experience.
11:13What are the major challenges of entrepreneurship in healthcare?
11:18Multiple ones. I think the way healthcare industry is different is that you are looking at something.
11:27Firstly, this is a deeply complex and deeply nuanced industry that you have to innovate for.
11:34On top of that, this is highly regulated as well.
11:39So I think the first thing is to have a really deeper understanding of the healthcare workflows and, you know, the way physicians and systems work.
11:50I think that is very important and that directly drives the adoption of your technology as well.
11:57So an outsider approach really don't work in this space.
12:02I think you have to start with people rather than technology.
12:06So you look at the actual need and actual problem first and then you build for that.
12:12The second thing that I mentioned about is the regulatory complexity of the system, you know, depending on what you're building, what kind of solution there is.
12:21There's HIPAA interoperability standards, there may be FDA, other regulatory agencies.
12:27So you need to make sure that whatever you're doing is in compliance with all of those things.
12:33And really the third thing is that there has to be like an interdisciplinary execution.
12:39You know, you need to have people who have understanding of medicine and technology and operations and business.
12:46And so it's sort of complex in that sense.
12:50But that doesn't necessarily mean that we need to be scared and we need to hold back.
12:56I mean, you know, there's so much opportunity and all these things will fall in line.
13:01We need to take the first step and go on and start working on it.
13:05I'm going to take that advice for myself.
13:08What advice would you give also to students aspiring to start ventures in the medical or technological sectors?
13:19The first thing I would say is you start with a real problem, not just a cool idea.
13:25You know, a lot of the times from an outsider perspective, we just think of something and we say, well, this will be cool if this happens.
13:31I think the important thing is to actually have an understanding of how things work and focus on a real problem, on a real pain point.
13:41Importantly, something that you have a personal connection with, because that way you're going to stay with and work on that through this challenging journey that you're going to face.
13:51So that's the first part.
13:53The second thing is you don't need to have all the answers up front.
13:58And this is very important because we feel like, you know, if I don't know much, maybe I don't need to dive into this.
14:04It's okay to not know.
14:06It's okay to not have all the answers.
14:08You just need to embrace the learning curve and you will gather all the information and the resources and things that you need along the way.
14:16So that that's important to keep in mind.
14:18Lastly, I would say it's very important to build with purpose and empathy.
14:24You know, if there is going to be a purpose driven innovation, you're going to stay connected.
14:30You're going to be passionate about it along your journey.
14:34And that initial journey is usually, you know, has a lot of friction and difficulty.
14:40But once you, you know, enter or go through some of those stages, of course, you gain more energy and sort of strength along the way as well.
14:52So, you know, as long as there's good purpose and empathy behind it.
14:56And I think the last thing I would say, just start, like need to take a start.
15:01A lot of us hold back because of so many challenges.
15:05So if there's one takeaway from this, I would say if you have an idea, if you have a passion for it, go ahead and take a start and things will fall in line.
15:14Okay. And in this challenging journey, how do you stay motivated when facing academic, but more specifically, professional challenges?
15:23Yeah, I think for me personally, I would say it's maybe relatively easy.
15:31The reason being, you know, when I get, you know, on the Medway side, you know, when I when I face some friction and difficulty and I start getting tired.
15:42Of course, I'm working as a physician as well, which is equally important because any innovation that we do, I am able to see that and assess that.
15:51And, you know, the performance and impact of that firsthand, you know, in association or in connection with my other physician, you know, partners and so forth.
16:01So really, when I go back to my work as a physician, it constantly keeps motivating me because I see those gaps firsthand where I see there's so much room for technology to optimize, to improve things.
16:16And so, of course, for me, you know, my work as a physician motivates me to work as you know, on Medway even more.
16:24So that is that is good for me. But I mean, as a general rule, I would say, you know, take break to recharge.
16:31Don't give up is the important aspect. A lot of times, you know, when we get tired and we see so much of challenge and difficulty, we say, well, maybe this is not worth it.
16:40We need to give up. That is that should not be the mindset.
16:43The important thing has to be like, OK, fine, you know, this is difficult. I need a little break to recharge and refresh. And you do that and then go back.
16:53Now, the third thing I would say is having, you know, a good support system, whether that is friends, whether that's co-founders, whether that is your family.
17:02But whoever you find that retreat and you go back to them to hear something, you know, to keep you going.
17:10So those are just, you know, ways I stay motivated and I'm sure others can as well.
17:15And how important have networking and mentorship been in your journey?
17:22Very important, you know, because really, when you start off and just like I was, you know, hinting at earlier as well, you don't know all the answers.
17:32You don't know how to navigate your way through. And both mentorship and networking are very critical in that regard, where you get access to resources,
17:43access to information, they guide you on how you need to do things.
17:47So, you know, try to I try to as well.
17:51I think every person needs to go to or find networking opportunities to meet with people you can learn from to reach out to people.
18:02And sometimes we hesitate a lot. But you would notice that, you know, I have seen this like I reach out on LinkedIn or email people that I've never connected with before.
18:12Just, you know, stating what I'm trying to do and the purpose and how I need their help and guidance.
18:19And a lot of the time, surprisingly, they're more than willing to offer that and do that.
18:24So there's so many resources, opportunities and things to help and guide and support.
18:30You just need to make sure you know that those things are available out there and that you can access those.
18:36OK, thank you. And before we finish, do you have any final advice for students and professionals looking to navigate the future of AI in healthcare?
18:48I would say I think the important aspect of this is that you, you know, you lean into change, you are willing to adopt new workflows and technology.
19:00But at the same time, you stay connected with the human core of healthcare.
19:07The human centeredness of technology is going to be of the essence.
19:12You need to stay curious as to what's happening in the world of healthcare AI.
19:17Make sure that you are on top of all of that.
19:22And I think the important thing is don't wait to start and don't wait for permission to lead.
19:29There's so many people out there with brilliant ideas, but they hesitate so much.
19:35And I have personally been through this, you know, there were years of time.
19:40And, you know, when I look back now, I think that was three years of precious time wasted.
19:46If I had started up, you know, earlier, I could have covered a lot more distance.
19:51And that is, you know, the key lesson, I would say to everybody who has an intention, who has an aspiration, who has brilliant ideas.
20:00Just go ahead and take the first step and things will fall in line and it will all work out better.
20:06Many thanks for your time and for sharing such valuable insights during the interview.
20:30But don't forget to share it at all, it's too bad.
20:38Oh, you're in the fucking world.
20:43Oh, you're not in the fucking world.
20:49How do we understand?
20:51who is different, who is different, who is different, who is different to you?
21:03The rat. Discret, prudent, intelligent et très proche de l'homme.
21:26Je devrais peut-être investir dans un micro sans fil, mais celui-là il fonctionne très
21:30bien, donc on va continuer avec.