Highlights of the election debate between Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton hosted by 9 News on April 22, 2025.
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00:00Where the petrol is at $2 a litre or $1.50 a litre, it will always be $0.25 cheaper under
00:11us.
00:12But is it still a key cost of living concern for people?
00:15Insurance costs are skyrocketing.
00:16Petrol prices are coming down.
00:17But they're still saving $0.25 a litre every time you fill up the tank.
00:22Budget papers in 2014 have line items there, $50 billion ripped out of health, $30 billion
00:27ripped out of education.
00:29That was the 2014 Abbott budget.
00:33Education went from $13 to $25 billion, Prime Minister.
00:36What you're talking about is the growth.
00:38Your argument, and I'll pay you credit on this, your argument is that the growth should have
00:43been higher.
00:44And the growth was there every year.
00:46The funding went up every year.
00:48Surely you can see that.
00:49What you're saying is that it should have gone up by a bit more each year, and that's what
00:53you describe as a cut.
00:54But in actual fact, if you're telling the truth...
00:56No, you described it as a cut.
00:57The 2014 budget described it as a cut, as a saving.
01:01If you were being honest, you would admit that funding went up each year.
01:04$50 billion in health and $30 billion in education.
01:07Every year, every year went up.
01:08Well, our population is increasing.
01:10You had the allocation that had been previously put in the budget prior to you coming to office.
01:16You ripped $80 billion out of those two items in 2014.
01:20Prime Minister, you couldn't lie straight in bed, honestly.
01:23This is unbelievable.
01:24You can go to abuse.
01:25Well, it's just the reality.
01:26You can go to personal abuse.
01:27That's a sign of desperation, Peter, frankly.
01:29As he's lying.
01:30What?
01:31That's a sign of desperation.
01:32Mr Dutton, we don't see a lot of your softer side.
01:35Do you think that your time as a police officer led you to have a black and white view of
01:41the world?
01:42Deb, look, I've spoken about this publicly.
01:43I think my time as a police officer, where you see some truly horrible things.
01:47You're dealing with victims of crime who are in the worst moment in their lives.
01:52Hardened is a word that people use, and I think when you go to deliver a death message
02:00to a family whose son is overdosed, or you go to a shooting or to a car accident where
02:06a child's been killed, I do think that has a big impact on you, and it certainly has on
02:10me.
02:11I've always been serious in my public life as a police officer and since I've been in
02:15parliament in protecting people, and I'm very genuine about that.
02:18What do you say to the opposition claims that you're too soft?
02:21That you're too wishy-washy?
02:22Do we need more of a hard man as a leader?
02:24It's just rhetoric.
02:26Kindness isn't weakness.
02:29Kindness is something that I was raised with.
02:33We raise our children to be compassionate with each other, but I've been capable of making
02:40tough decisions.
02:41You don't turn a $78 billion deficit into a $22 billion surplus without making tough decisions.