Grant Shapps says he's barred from sharing theories on Trump and Putin Source: Times Radio
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00:00You've got this terrible combination of a president who just for some reason seems to support the tyrant.
00:07And I have some theories as to why, but I may have to wait for the 30 year old to talk about them.
00:11Do you want to offer one now?
00:14Thank you. I think I'll probably I'll probably resist.
00:17But I don't think it's too much of a stretch.
00:19And many of your listeners will already know because it's publicly reported that he's had previous both run ins with Kiev unrelated to the war.
00:27And people may come to their own theories as to why he seemed to be in cahoots with Putin, who, after all, is a dictator who wants a completely different type of world to the one which has been constructed after the Second World War.
00:42And the irony of all of this, of course, is the country that's singly benefited the most from the post-war settlement has been the United States.
00:50The country that's benefited most from free trade has been the United States and the country that's going to suffer most,
00:56according to the International Monetary Fund, from all of this tariff nonsense is indeed the United States.
01:03So this is not in America's interest and certainly not in Europe's and certainly not in ours.
01:08As I say, we have to step up to the plate and make sure that we're spending on our own defence.
01:13Otherwise, we really don't have much room to complain.
01:16And if we we're not going to live the comfort zone, we don't have much roomVI for us.
01:27We are really certain in Europe.
01:30So there's something we can prepare for now that we want to be hunting our own back to the next turn to the city.