The government brought the opposition on board after the Pahalgam attack by inviting even smaller parties to the all-party meet. The opposition also vowed its full support to the government for whatever action or decision it takes in response to the cowardly attack on tourists in Pahalgam.
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00:01Good evening, you're watching To The Point. I'm Preeti Chaudhary.
00:03Lots of optics coming in right now from the Congress Headquarter.
00:08The entire Gandhi clan right now at the Congress Headquarter.
00:13The Youth Congress has organised a candlelight march
00:16in wake of the tragic, dastardly terrorist attack in Pehelgaon.
00:23We're going to get you visuals coming in from there.
00:25First up, allow me to take you through the headlines.
00:30India ups the ante against Pakistan.
00:35Army chief reviews security situation in Srinagar.
00:38India displays military prowess exercise Akramat to one Pakistan.
00:48Pakistan admits to dirty terror backing.
00:51Pakistan defense minister says doing this dirty work for U.S. for three decades.
00:56Pakistan has had a long history of backing and supporting and training
01:03and funding these terrorist organizations.
01:13Houses of local terrorists who helped plot Pehelgaon terror attack blown up.
01:17Homes of Asif and Adil who helped plan attack demolished.
01:21Pahalgaon attack inspired by Hamas.
01:29Hamas leaders met elite terrorist Hamas leaders days before Pahalgaon attack.
01:34Hamas given the VIP welcome in POK in February.
01:37Supreme Court takes on Rahul Gandhi on comments against Savarkar says even Indira Gandhi praised the man.
01:49Homes of Asif and Adil who helped plan to fight for U.S. for three decades.
01:50The government defends Vakf law in reply to the Supreme Court says Vakf by user only through registration of property
02:06and two non-Muslim members will be allowed on the Vakf board.
02:09All right, let's quickly cut across right now to the Congress headquarters.
02:33Those viewers, a lot of optics, political symbolism loaded with that coming through.
02:38These are visuals coming in from the Congress headquarter.
02:40Congress, Cader, this is all a protest march which has been organized by the youth Congress workers.
02:48And joining this march will be Rahul Gandhi, Priyanka Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi.
02:52All of this to commemorate, to pay tribute, to remember those slain in the name of terror.
03:00Twenty-eight lives there.
03:02I want to cut across to my colleague Moshmi who is joining us from the Congress headquarter.
03:07Moshmi, if you can hear us, Rahul Gandhi, Priyanka Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi all to be part of this march
03:14along with the top Congress, you know, leadership.
03:18What more can you add? Because it was a last-minute march that at least the Gandhis chose to join.
03:27Well, Preeti, I can just tell you what's happening right here at the AICC headquarters.
03:34Even as the Congress has chosen to stand in solidarity with the government
03:39as far as, you know, retaliatory measures are concerned,
03:44and here at the Congress headquarters, you know, a peace march being taken out,
03:49a condolence march being taken out by the Congress party.
03:55You can see at the entrance gate there are mashals that workers are holding,
04:01candles being held in the hand,
04:04and Bharat mata ki jai being chanted right here at the AICC headquarters,
04:12where you can see that all Congress workers are,
04:15as soon as the sun downed, lit the candles,
04:19and they would be marching to India Gate.
04:22But perhaps for now, you know, the gate has been closed,
04:27so Congress workers have not been allowed to actually go outside
04:32and, you know, walk towards India Gate.
04:37We are still waiting for Rahul Gandhi,
04:40who was in Srinagar earlier in the day.
04:43So we haven't really seen him around yet,
04:46though other senior Congress leaders are present in this march.
04:51Now, the Congress has been mincing no words about the fact that,
04:54though this is a dastardly act, but in this hour of grave solidarity,
05:02the Congress party is standing with the government
05:06and also grieving the loss of lives in the deadly terror attack.
05:12Moshmi, you know, we're going to come right back to you.
05:14The entire top Congress leadership alongside Sonia Gandhi,
05:18Priyanka Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi, all of them,
05:20would be marching towards India Gate in solidarity
05:22of those who've lost their lives in this terror attack.
05:25We're going to cut across to these visuals.
05:27But, viewers, all of this is coming at the back
05:30of what really was a rare show of unity.
05:33The government and opposition parties coming together
05:35in the all-party meet to condemn the Pehalgam terror attack.
05:38Yesterday, in the all-party meet, the government briefed the opposition,
05:42very unlike, viewers, on what had happened,
05:44if you remember, during the Pulwama terror attack.
05:47At that time, there was a massive trust deficit.
05:49The government, the opposition accused the government
05:51of not taking them into confidence.
05:53Very different this time.
05:55And, fortunately, very different and in a rare show of unity,
06:02we saw the opposition come together with the government,
06:05supporting the government on its stand.
06:07Here's more.
06:08The government taking the opposition into confidence.
06:14An all-party meeting where the opposition was briefed
06:17on one of the worst terror attacks on tourists.
06:21Two-minute silence observed in remembrance of those fallen to terror.
06:26Unlike the last big terror strike in Pulwama,
06:33where there was a clear trust deficit between the government and the opposition,
06:38this time, in a welcome change,
06:41the government and the opposition mostly spoke in one voice.
06:46The government accommodated even smaller parties
06:49who wanted to be part of the all-party meeting.
06:52The government admitted to an intelligence failure.
07:03The opposition put its weight behind the government,
07:18backing the government in the retaliatory action taken so far.
07:23The united opposition condemned this action
07:26and said that we are there to support whatever action
07:30the government wants to take.
07:32The meeting was chaired by the defence minister, Rajanath Singh,
07:36where the opposition was briefed first by the Information Bureau.
07:41However, there were a few sticking points.
07:44Where is the Prime Minister?
07:47Opposition parties questioned the absence of the PM at the all-party meeting.
07:52Security lapses at Baisaran Meadow.
07:56Government revealed that the Meadow was open to the public on April 20th
08:00without notifying central agencies or an intel nod.
08:05Visitors count jumped from 500 on day 1 to 3,000 on the day of the attack.
08:10Admittance of this security lapse led to a major uproar from opposition parties.
08:18The other point that was raised, online hate.
08:21The opposition raised the point that BJP-linked handles online
08:25was spreading communal hate and trying to milk this election politically.
08:30Governments said that they will look into it.
08:33The other issue raised by opposition
08:35were Kashmiri students being attacked across the country.
08:39Despite of a few apprehensions,
08:45the meeting ended with the opposition throwing its weight behind the government.
08:49However, politics peaked on Friday,
08:53where the Samajwadi party attacked the government
08:55for what it termed as a huge intel failure.
08:58Till now, what has been a rare sight in Indian democracy,
09:18the government and the opposition
09:20has largely been on the same page on this.
09:23The world is fresh and it's deep.
09:26Retribution and retaliation is key.
09:30The politics for now can wait.
09:33But will it?
09:34And for how long?
09:36Bureau Report, India Today.
09:37In midst of all of this,
09:42we have the Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister,
09:44Omar Abdullah,
09:45who's also come in stating
09:46that he is with the government
09:48in all the retaliatory measures
09:50that have been announced.
09:51Listen in.
09:51The Jammu and Kashmir Most,
10:21I have convinced them that whatever we have given in this meeting, we will do it.
10:51Sanju Verma, the fact is, this time, things are different.
10:56Because why I say it's different is the last time India faced a terror attack, it was Pulwama.
11:01And at that point of time, politically, I'm talking about, there seems to be a trust deficit,
11:06especially where the government and the Congress are concerned.
11:10And the opposition was concerned.
11:12The opposition constantly said that the government hasn't taken them into confidence.
11:16This was a rare show of unity, Sanju Verma, so at least there is admittance that the opposition this time is backing the government.
11:23You know, Preeti, first and foremost, I think the fact that the opposition has decided to join hands with the government in these times,
11:35that is absolutely welcome, that is much appreciated.
11:40Having said that, I'm not somebody who's going to pussyfoot the hard facts under the carpet.
11:45Let me make it very clear.
11:47You know, a couple of days back, barely 48 hours back, that absolutely untoward statement coming from Robert Wadra,
11:55where he says on record that,
11:59that was very bad in the past, but this is why it happened because the Muslim community in India is being made to feel insecure.
12:09The Muslim community in India has been weakened systematically by the Modi government.
12:15And then 24 hours back, you had a post on X coming from loud mouth Pawan Khaira, who says that the PM is only worried about elections,
12:24and the JDU is only worried about the PM, and there is no all party meeting.
12:28He obviously had a nice big fat omelet on his face, because within a few hours of Pawan Khaira's pathetic post,
12:34there was an all party meeting with all opposition leaders being taken on board by the Modi government and rightfully so.
12:41So my first point is this, large parts of the opposition have joined hands, but there are some within the opposition ranks,
12:48who still continue to not call out the bluff of Pakistan, by saying that Muslims have been weakened by the Modi government,
12:56and that is the reason why the terror attack happened.
13:00Indirectly, indirectly, Robert Wadra has given a clean chip to Pakistan, has given a clean chip to cross-border terrorism,
13:08and nothing could be more shameful than that.
13:11Even if you look at Malik Arjun Khaira's posts, I mean, he leaves nothing to anybody's imagination.
13:16His posts are petty, and they not only ask for accountability, which every bona fide citizen should ask for,
13:22but he has not once named radical Islamist terror for what it is.
13:28He has not once called out the bluff of radical Islamists who are the epicenter of the-
13:33Sajjurma, your time is up, ma'am. Your fader is going to go down.
13:36You know, I'm going to circle back to you because, you know, you're blaming Robert Wadra, but political, he has zero locus stand-eye.
13:42And if the leader of opposition and the other political outfits, and it's not just one political party,
13:48have all come out and supported the government, then I would reckon one needs to look at other than one random relative of somebody who's associated with the Gandhis.
13:56I'll come back to you, I'll circle back to you. I want to cut across to Mahima Singh.
13:59All right, you know, we have visuals also coming in from the Congress headquarters.
14:02Rahul Gandhi has reached as a candlelight march in solidarity with what happened in Pehal Gaam.
14:08But Mahima Singh, somewhere down the line, at least there is acceptance that the government this time did all it could to accommodate the opposition,
14:18to brief the opposition, to take them into confidence on what was going on.
14:22All of that was very different because Pulwama, you said, we were never even spoken with.
14:27Here you were, you know, the opposition was briefed by the IB to the limit where you have the home minister,
14:34who actually called people who usually would not have found space on the table where protocol demands,
14:40because they don't have a certain percentage of vote share across the country.
14:44For example, Asad Deen Ovesi, his party wouldn't have found place on the table.
14:48Otherwise, he wanted to be, you know, invited. And the home minister called him up and said, come.
14:55So in all of that, do you see the government being accommodative, making, taking that step to brief the opposition, keep them informed?
15:02Jai Hind, Preeti, does the government really have a choice on this when a dire situation and critical questions face all of us today?
15:16Preeti, and I would rather say, I heard the rhetoric by the BJP spokesperson, and it is a pity.
15:23I would rather say, Preeti, that, you know, it is the narrative of the government, the narrative of Naya Kashmir,
15:30the evasive, the elusive narrative by the government that has bled Kashmir today.
15:35And there's no denying that, because critical questions pose us today, Preeti.
15:38Why is there a continued shortage of one lakh personnel in the Indian Army since, you know, since COVID times, since 2020?
15:46Why was there no patrolling?
15:48All these questions are posing us instead of, you know, acceptance, analysis, accountability.
15:56The government and its representatives are still busy gaslighting, still busy, you know, propagandising the whole issue.
16:04And I don't think that is the correct approach, I believe.
16:07Just the way the government of India, just the way it has agreed to an all-party meeting,
16:13although we did not see the Prime Minister heading that meeting, as it was urged by the opposition parties,
16:19especially Khargeji, who continued to question the same within the all-party meeting also.
16:24You know, it is worrisome that the Prime Minister goes to Bihar, goes for electioneering,
16:30J.D.O. is absent from this all-party meeting.
16:33So what is the stance of the government and its allies needs to be seen in their actions,
16:38and those actions don't need to be really chest-thumping, don't need to be really loud, hollow statements.
16:44It needs to be a spirit, a collective spirit, a united spirit that protects the integrity of our borders.
16:52I would say here, Preeti, that, you know, that Himanshi's lonesome picture from the grounds of Baisaran Valley,
17:01it tells us a very terrible tale of abandonment.
17:05It is a tale of abandonment by the state of its own citizens.
17:10Ma'am, your time is up. I'll circle back to you.
17:12Ma'am, your time is up. Your fader's going to go down. We won't be able to hear you.
17:15But, you know, Ma'am, I will circle back to you on this question, because at least your leader of opposition, Rahul Gandhi,
17:22came out and saying we're fully with the government. They're doing the right thing.
17:25So there seems to be now, because the dust really not so settled, but it's been a few days,
17:30so the politics can peak again, and that's the question.
17:32I'd like to put forth to the Samajwadi Party spokesperson, Ashutosh Verma.
17:37Ashutosh Verma, you know, many would suggest there's a time and place for everything.
17:42Possibly politics can wait. There's a lot that one India needs to do.
17:46We've retaliated with diplomatic measures. Hopefully soon, those diplomatic measures will be turned to tactical military measures as well.
17:55So, Ashutosh Verma, at this point of time, for an Akhilesh Yadav to come and said,
18:00Bachche, Bachche ko pata hai, intelligence failure hua hai. Why milk it politically, sir?
18:05Thank you. I think it was a kind of a reaction because everybody in this country,
18:12our Prime Minister was busy in Bihar rally. After knowing everything, he skipped the all-party meeting
18:22and he went to the Bihar for the political reason. And it was shameful from all across the country
18:31that in all-party meeting where the LOP was there, every single party you were discussing,
18:36every single party was there. The Prime Minister was not serious to discuss all things with the
18:41all the leaders of the country. So, who is politicizing? You should know.
18:45But there is, there has to be a question, whatever the thing has been given.
18:49We all know that he has been an internal failure and they have accepted it.
18:53Whenever there is an Ahuri attack, you accuse the opposition that don't do the politics.
18:58There is Pulwama attack, you oppose the opposition, don't do politics.
19:02Now it is Pathan court. Similarly, in the previous BJP government, we have Sikh parliament attack,
19:06Akshaddam attack, Kargil attack, Kandar hijack attack.
19:10Whom to blame and whom to put accountable. Still, from last six years, we don't know how this RDX came in the Pulwama.
19:18So, it is not the duty of the opposition to just raise their eyebrow and ask who is accountable right now.
19:24When the Prime Minister is doing the politics there, in the Bihar, what was the main purpose and what was he losing when he can't go to Bihar?
19:34Is he losing the election?
19:36But he wants to politicize because he wants to give the message from the Bihar to the Biharis to vote in the name of nation.
19:45Haven't you forget that what he has done after Pulwama? He said,
19:48He said,
19:49This is the problem of Bharati Janta Party and the leader of Lok Sabha, the Prime Minister.
19:57Unfortunately, he is our Prime Minister.
19:59He should present in the all-party meeting and we are supporting.
20:03We are supporting with all eyes and all shoulders with the Bharati Janta Party.
20:08But he is not there and this is the question…
20:10Okay.
20:11So, you are supporting the BJP but you question the Prime Minister's presence, sir.
20:15Again, Ashutoshwarma, some would suggest that maybe hold it off for a little while.
20:20The Prime Minister has bigger fish to fry and as long as the opposition is being apprised, updated, briefed…
20:26You know…
20:27I'll come back to you, sir.
20:28I'll come back to you.
20:29I'll come back to you, sir.
20:30Because your fader is down, nobody can hear you.
20:31I'll come back to you.
20:32Allow me.
20:33I just want to go to the TDP spokesperson right now.
20:36We have Jyotsna Tirunagiri.
20:39Jyotsna Tirunagiri, the allegations made by the opposition do have some meat in them
20:44that, for example, where was the Prime Minister?
20:46It's very important the Prime Minister maybe not chair the meeting but needs to be a part
20:51of the meeting and that was something that was raised in the all-party meeting yesterday.
20:55The other things, you know, which the opposition is now, today, speaking of is that the Prime
21:01Minister was too busy attending election rallies and making speeches from the dais in Bihar,
21:07while allies, because you're also an ally of the BJP, like the JDU, didn't even have
21:13time to attend the all-party meeting because they were bending over backwards to make sure
21:17that this rally of the Prime Minister in Bihar was a success.
21:20Priti, at the outset, I am actually out of words for the first time because I am literally
21:30mourning for somebody I don't even know, Priti.
21:33It's very sad.
21:35Those people who have lost their lives are Indians.
21:38Forget about Hindus.
21:39Forget about Muslims.
21:40Forget about their religion.
21:42They are Indians.
21:43They are my fellow brothers and sisters.
21:45We lost them.
21:46I'm mourning their loss, first thing.
21:48Second, as a mother, as a sister, as a daughter, as a citizen of India, I bleed through
21:55every word I speak in India today, because I'll tell you why.
22:00Terrorists attacked India.
22:03Terrorists tried to probably weaken the strength of India today because they wanted to do that.
22:10And here, political unity in this juncture, at this juncture, is not a choice.
22:16It is a duty, Priti.
22:17I believe in this.
22:18It's a duty.
22:19We from TDP attended the all-party meeting yesterday.
22:23We put our points very strongly there.
22:25In fact, our Honourable Chief Minister, Srinara Chandra Babu Nayadgaru, met the Honourable
22:30Prime Minister today in Delhi.
22:32And he asserted that we are with the central government and in all the strong measures
22:37that we are supposed to be taking for the nation.
22:41Now, I'm still thinking about Smith, the 17-year-old who died holding his father's hand.
22:49As a mother, my heart bleeds.
22:52So, I'm literally worried about all this.
22:54And this is not a random violence, Priti.
22:56It's a selective slaughter of my fellow Indians.
23:00We need to stand united at this juncture.
23:03We need to stand politically united, emotionally united, everything.
23:07Everything.
23:08Because the work of this juncture can be done in the past.
23:12Absolutely.
23:13What do you do?
23:16We will fight.
23:17Let's fight it out.
23:18But not now.
23:19It's not the time.
23:20We need to stand with them.
23:21And I appeal to all the parties to kindly stand with the victims.
23:24Kindly stand with the country.
23:25Ma'am, your time is up, but very sobering words there that are coming in from the TDP
23:29spokesperson.
23:30And, you know, away from the rhetoric, Sanju Verma, whether the Prime Minister should have
23:34attended or not.
23:35There are certain glaring loopholes.
23:36And many would suggest an intelligence failure, which was admitted, you know, by the government
23:41as well yesterday in the all-party meeting.
23:43And that raises many questions, you know, with what, you know, Jyotsna Tirunagiri also
23:49pointed out.
23:50Every family member who lost their loved ones in Pehelgaam has come back and said that for
23:58an hour, hour and a half, some say even for two hours, their loved one was alive and they
24:04actually saw them bleed to death.
24:07And raises questions, you know, Sanju Verma, where is our protocol for air ambulances?
24:13Yes, one understands this was, you know, the area was, you know, in a place which wasn't
24:17accessible by road.
24:19But air ambulances kicked in an hour and a half to two hours later.
24:24So larger questions then.
24:25The second thing which the at the all-party meeting with the parties were told and there
24:29was a briefing by the IB, which seemed to suggest that there was no intelligence or the
24:35central government didn't even know that this particular tourist spot was thrown open for
24:40tourists because this usually is thrown open at the time of the Yamarnath Yatra.
24:44And the local police there and the local tour operators started taking tourists there of their own
24:50volition.
24:51In one day, 300 crowd rose to 3000.
24:54There were 3000 present at the time without a single police personnel.
24:57Preeti, I heard you and, you know, I share the concern voiced by Jyotsna.
25:07This is the time to unite.
25:09But let me make one thing very, very clear.
25:11You know, I have seen two opposition panelists here abusing the prime minister, saying prime
25:16minister was, you know, addressing an election rally.
25:19Let me make this very, very clear.
25:21This was Prime Minister Narendra Modi, thanks to whom we conducted the highly successful surgical
25:27strike of 2016.
25:29Thanks to Prime Minister Narendra Modi's willpower, conviction and determination.
25:34We conducted the highly successful balakot strike to avenge Pulwama in 2019.
25:40Thanks to Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
25:42Today, Pakistan is completely isolated internationally.
25:47Kashmir is not discussed at United Nations for us because Kashmir has been stripped out
25:54of the equation.
25:55Nobody takes Pakistan seriously.
25:57They say that the best way to fight a war is actually to suppress your enemy without going
26:03into war.
26:04And that is precisely what we've done.
26:06Today, our GDP is $4.34 trillion.
26:09Pakistan's is a measly $335 billion.
26:13We are 13 times bigger than them.
26:16Today, Pakistan's forex reserves are $10 billion.
26:19Ours is $678 billion.
26:22More than 67 times bigger than them.
26:25Today, Pakistan's annual exports are $36 billion.
26:29Our monthly exports are more than $65 billion.
26:33So, the limited point I'm making is, be it diplomatically, be it economically, be it internationally, be it strategically, we are completely isolated Pakistan.
26:46All three times more than 12 times more.
26:48It's not worth it, but we have to talk to her more than $5 billion.
26:49The India's
27:14I just want to tell our viewers, you know, multiple images coming in of the opposition taking out candlelight marches.
27:19You just saw there the chief minister of Telangana alongside Saudine Ovesi coming together with the candle march in Hyderabad.
27:25Live visuals coming in from Delhi. We'll cut across to our reporters in a short while.
27:28I want to start taking final comments and I want to go across now to the Congress spokesperson.
27:33Mahima Singh, you know, ma'am, your two minutes begin now.
27:36Once again, till yesterday, there was, I think, how long is, you know, how soon is too soon to start raking up politics at a time like this?
27:48The government needs to act. We've only delivered one part of what many would hope is retaliation to what we've been through, hoping that it will never happen again.
28:00The tactical military retribution still needs to be handed out.
28:04But do you think, you know, we can pause politics for a while? Many would think that'd be a great idea.
28:12Preeti, the moment the news of the attack came out, our leaders issued statements that we are with the government and we want an all party.
28:20We hope that an all party meet is conducted.
28:23And thereafter, after the all party meet, our Honorable LOP, Sri Rahul Gandhi came out and said,
28:29we are with the government in whatever it decides.
28:31Now, you see the politicization, the chest thumping, the propagandization of the whole issue as on your show,
28:39as well as outside your show is being done by no other but the Bharatiya Janata Party representatives.
28:47We have seen what the BJP Chhattisgarh Twitter handle tweeted.
28:51So, you see, it is the BJP's job.
28:55In fact, I was started, the BJP spokesperson named so many terror attacks right now,
28:59including the Sabhjavata Express attack where RSS workers have been named in the Union Home Secretary's reports.
29:07I don't want to get into that. This is not the time for that.
29:09But let me just ask a critical question, Preeti.
29:13Honorable LOP went and met the families of the victims.
29:16Where is the Prime Minister? Why is he not meeting the families of the victims?
29:20I want to remind today, Preeti, that on the very eve of the swearing-in of our Honorable Prime Minister,
29:26Riyasi, you would remember, had witnessed a terror attack.
29:30A pilgrim's bus was attacked.
29:33Did the government not take its lesson?
29:35Why was a spot such as Pahalgam, you said that there are reports it is only open during the Amarna Teatra.
29:41You go to the internet, look at the reviews, you talk to the tourist agents, you know, tour agents.
29:48They will tell you that this spot in Kashmir, Bessar and Ghati, is opened around this time in the month of April.
29:56And it was very much in the knowledge of all the tour advisors, tour agents.
30:01Why was the government not aware, isn't that a stark admission, rather a more blatant one at that,
30:08of the security lapse and the intelligence failure that has happened?
30:12There is a reporter called Sultan, who brought in the month of January.
30:17Ma'am, your time is up.
30:18I want to go across back to the TDP spokesperson and we'll cut across to the Samajwadi Party spokesperson post.
30:24That, you know, Jyotsna Thirunagari, the fact is, I understand that one needs to come together,
30:30you know, where our response to Pakistani is concerned.
30:33And I think on those grounds, the opposition is making the right noises.
30:37What's so wrong, Jyotsna Thirunagari, even at this point of time,
30:40because it is essential to ask the questions of accountability and security lapses and intelligence failures?
30:47Absolutely nothing wrong, Priti.
30:49I'm not saying it's wrong to ask about the security, you know, positioning there and what went wrong.
30:55Yes, we have to, whenever things like this happen, we have to check where we went wrong
30:59and we have to rectify those mistakes if there are any.
31:02Definitely we have to do that.
31:03But let me tell you here, Priti, what, you know, isn't it true that the victims were asked their religion
31:09and they were shot down?
31:10Isn't it true?
31:11Now, we were talking about, we in the sense, the country people,
31:14I'm not talking about TDP or BJP or any one party in particular.
31:19When we said they were talking, they were asking the religion and shooting,
31:23some people from some, you know, parties came up and said,
31:27Oh, no, no, no, no, you're talking about the Muslims.
31:29Where are we doing, Priti?
31:31Why are they taking that?
31:35So who's politicizing the thing?
31:38Isn't it true that religion was asked?
31:40And I said, they didn't ask where are you from.
31:41They didn't ask if you are from South India or North India.
31:44They didn't ask if you are a Telgait, Kannadite or let's assume Tamilian.
31:47They didn't ask you that.
31:48They didn't ask you whether you eat beef or you eat chicken or you eat vegetarian.
31:57They didn't ask you that.
31:58They just simply asked, are you a Hindu or are you a Muslim?
32:02Kalma paddo.
32:03That's what was asked.
32:04And that was raised.
32:06That was, you know, that's the pain and agony of the victims.
32:08They're trying to incline it to a thing which is not there.
32:17So my point is, again, if there are mistakes, yes, Priti, we have to question them and we have to, you know, rectify them.
32:24There is no doubt about it.
32:25Absolutely no doubt about it.
32:28But this juncture is not for politicizing.
32:31We have to stand with the victims.
32:34We have to stand with the government.
32:35We have to empathize with the victims.
32:50Not only sympathize, empathize with the victims.
32:53All right.
32:54You know, I want to go to the Samajwadi party person because what was raised by the TDP spokesperson, Ashutoshwarma, many of your leaders have raised that it, that the BJP is trying to communalize the terrorist attack.
33:05But the fact is, Ashutoshwarma is what, like the TDP spokesperson said, the act in itself was communal.
33:12So the terror attack in itself was communal.
33:14How is it that the BJP is trying to communalize it?
33:18Priti, what does the terrorism, terrorists want to do for the country?
33:23They definitely want to put a communal angle for this.
33:26And they are doing and Bharatiya Janta Party is reciprocating the same.
33:29Within an half hour, the BJP ITC had made a ghibli image of that devastating image.
33:37Do you remember?
33:39And I am again countering about the BJP spokesperson.
33:54In 2016, there was Uri attack.
33:56Nineteen soldiers were killed.
33:58You said, opposition, don't do politics.
34:00Don't ask about this.
34:02We will do something.
34:03In 2016, again, Pathan court, 12 were killed.
34:06You said, opposition, don't do politics.
34:08Don't ask anything.
34:09In 2019, 40 soldiers were dead in the bomb blast.
34:15You tell the opposition, you always ask the opposition, don't do politics.
34:18Now, again, in Palgam, 26 civilians have been killed.
34:21Now, tell me, what is the next number when we should keep our mouth shut and not ask me the Bharatiya Janta Party?
34:28Because it is not we.
34:30Priti, we should know.
34:31I think one second, we've got into something.
34:40No, no, I'm playing something.
34:41All right.
34:41Okay.
34:41So, this is not we are saying.
34:49This is Chappanin Sina for Prime Minister Singh.
34:52He is doing politicing.
34:54Within 24 hours, he has to attend the political meeting in Bihar.
34:57Leaving this all-party meeting.
34:59Chattisgarh Bhartiyananda Party meeting a Ghibli image.
35:03Every cross, the news and corners of the social media is commenting.
35:09Dharam nahi jati poochhi.
35:10Sorry, jati nahi dharam poochha.
35:13Who is politizing this all things?
35:16It seems like they are waiting for all these things to attack on other secular parties.
35:22Okay.
35:22Basically, this is the Bharatiya Janta Party.
35:24Now, they have to tell what nation wants.
35:26Okay, sir, your time is up.
35:27I'm running out of time, but I will give 30 seconds of closing to each of you.
35:30Because then I'm going to cut across to our debate number two.
35:33But Sanju Verma, 30 seconds, ma'am.
35:35Closing, make your point.
35:37You know, first and foremost, I take strong objection to the language used by the Samajwadi Party spokesperson.
35:43You know, saying Bharatiya Janta Party niche is blah blah.
35:46I don't think, PT, you allow that kind of language.
35:49Because in the past, you have rebutted and cut me short for far less.
35:54Now, let me remind the Samajwadi Party.
35:57When the bombings were in 2008-2012,
36:01Akhilesh Yagov was the chief minister and he went to Anabha Bhaito,
36:05standing in solidarity with Indian mujahudhi.
36:08When in 2008-2012,
36:09the Batla House encounter was done,
36:11Sonia Gandhi shed the obvious tears for Indian mujahudhi,
36:14not for the victims.
36:15And when there was a 26-11 terror attack,
36:19Rahul Gandhi,
36:20who is a brother of Akhilesh Yagov,
36:21who is a brother of Akhilesh Yagov,
36:22who is a brother of Akhilesh Yagov,
36:23he was partying in less than 24 hours
36:26at Chhatarpur Files.
36:29Rather than, you know,
36:31standing in solidarity with the 166 victims
36:34of 26-11 terror attacks,
36:36Modi ji ka seera 56-inch ka hai,
36:38isi liye surgical strike kui.
36:40Modi ji ka seera 56-inch ka hai,
36:42isi liye bala kout strike kui.
36:44Modi ji ka seera 56-inch ka hai,
36:46isi liye we will avenge Pahelga.
36:48We are not Akhilesh Yagov,
36:50jo indian mujahudhi ke sahara.
36:51Ma'am, your time is way up.
36:5330 seconds, Mahima Singh.
36:54Closing comments, please.
36:55Preeti, it's not us asking the questions.
37:00It is these families.
37:01This is Sheetal Ben of Gujarat
37:03who lost her husband.
37:04She is asking CR Patil, the union minister,
37:07that VIP lives are lives.
37:09Taxpayers' lives are not lives.
37:1110 days ago, Preeti Nishikant Dubey
37:13celebrated his 25th anniversary in Pehalgaam
37:16and security arrangements were impeccable.
37:20What happened to the taxpayer tourists
37:23that are visiting Kashmir?
37:24Kashmir's revenue comes from tourists.
37:27But the very tourists,
37:28there was 90 minutes of attack,
37:3027 dead, 60 injured.
37:33You know, there's no security seen there.
37:35There's no first aid seen there.
37:37So you are, you know,
37:38anybody accusing the opposition
37:40of asking the question
37:41must listen to the victim families
37:43asking the questions.
37:44Ma'am, your time is up.
37:46Ma'am, your time is up.
37:48I want to quickly go to the TDP spokesperson
37:49and the Samajwadi party spokesperson.
37:5130 seconds each.
37:52The TDP spokesperson.
37:55Ma'am, go ahead.
37:5630 seconds begin now.
37:58Preeti, I think there should be
37:59only one statement.
38:00There is no, you know,
38:03we can never forgive these terrorists,
38:05not forget them.
38:06The only thing that we have to do,
38:08as rightly quoted by our
38:09Honorable Prime Minister,
38:10that is the only thing that we have to do.
38:21Fair point.
38:2330 seconds.
38:24Samajwadi party spokesperson, sir.
38:26Go ahead.
38:26Your time begins now.
38:27Indeed, now the nation wants to know
38:29how many Uri,
38:31how many Pulwama,
38:32how many Pathankot,
38:33and how many Pahlgaaf.
38:35What forth is coming
38:36and when to ask about the opposition.
38:39You should now put accountable
38:40to this nation.
38:42In 2008,
38:43Shiva Singh party,
38:44then Home Minister resigned,
38:45NSA has resigned.
38:46Not a single person
38:48has taken accountability till yet
38:49and they have now accepted
38:51the intel failure.
38:53Okay.
38:53All right.
38:54I appreciate all four of you
38:55for joining us.
38:56Thank you for taking the time out.
38:58We're hoping in times to come
39:00that the politics
39:00is not going to be as strong
39:02as what we are hoping
39:03that everyone comes together
39:04and India can pay back
39:07without mercy.
39:08And I think that's one thing
39:09we all unite on.
39:10We've got breaking news
39:11coming in right now.
39:12All right.
39:12So the Congress.
39:18The Congress headquarter.
39:19Also alongside
39:21the visuals coming in
39:22from Hyderabad
39:23where Revant Reddy,
39:24the Telangana Chief Minister
39:26alongside a Southdeen Ovese
39:27holding a candlelight march as well.
39:37Visuals that are coming in.
39:39All of this viewers
39:40after the all-party meeting
39:41that had taken place yesterday
39:43where at least in principle
39:45all the parties stood united
39:48saying that they agree
39:50with what the government
39:51has chosen to do
39:52and they back
39:53the government's action.
39:56And multiple candlelight
39:58vigils and rallies
39:59taking place right now
40:00across the country.
40:02At one end
40:03what you see is
40:04the Delhi Congress headquarter.
40:06Rahul Gandhi
40:06who was in Pehalgaam
40:07this morning
40:08meeting the injured
40:10of the Pehalgaam
40:11terror violence.
40:13On the other hand
40:13you have Revant Reddy
40:15in Hyderabad
40:15walking alongside
40:17a Southdeen Ovese
40:18holding a candlelight march.
40:24All right.
40:24With that
40:25I'm going to go into
40:26a quick break
40:26to stay with us
40:27on the other side.
40:28We're going to shift focus
40:29to how Pakistan
40:30is reacting here.
40:32India has responded
40:34with a series of stern measures
40:35where it came down
40:36to retaliatory measures
40:38in place for Pakistan.
40:39Meanwhile,
40:40escalating tensions
40:41between the nations
40:42continue.
40:42In the wake of this tragedy
40:44Pakistan's aggressive denial
40:46and retaliatory actions
40:47have further fuelled
40:48the conflict.
40:5422nd April 2025
40:56Pehalgaam
40:57A date that will forever
41:00be burned into the
41:01memory space
41:02of our country
41:03where lives fell
41:04collateral
41:05to the latest chapter
41:07of Pakistan-sponsored terror.
41:12where the lives
41:14of families
41:15will forever
41:16be altered
41:17with the spray
41:18of cold-blooded bullets.
41:23Agony,
41:25angst,
41:27anger.
41:28India resolved
41:29for retribution
41:30in the Prime Minister's words
41:32never seen before
41:34retaliation.
41:35As expected,
41:51the footprint of terror
41:52was traced back
41:53to Pakistan.
41:54India resorted
41:55with a slew
41:56of measures.
41:58abeance of the
42:01Indus Water Treaty
42:02closure of the
42:04Atari-Waga border
42:05revocation of
42:07visa exemption
42:08diplomatic downgrading
42:11military and security
42:12operations
42:13continuing.
42:19Meanwhile,
42:20in Pakistan,
42:21the wheels of
42:22aggressive denial
42:23had started to spin.
42:24April 22nd
42:27to 23rd
42:28Initial Denial
42:29and Condemnation
42:30Official stance
42:31Pakistan condemned
42:33the attack
42:33and denied
42:34any involvement
42:35labeling
42:36India's accusations
42:37as baseless.
42:39Pakistan
42:40Defense Minister's
42:41statement claimed
42:42the attack
42:43was a false
42:44flag operation
42:45by India
42:45citing internal
42:47unrest
42:47in various
42:48Indian regions
42:49as evidence
42:50of what he claimed
42:51was homegrown terror.
42:53April 24th
42:552025
42:56Diplomatic
42:57and Economic
42:58Retaliation
42:59Suspension
43:00of Bilateral
43:01Agreements
43:02Pakistan announced
43:03the suspension
43:04of all bilateral
43:05treaties with
43:06India
43:06including
43:07the 1972
43:09Shimla Agreement
43:10Airspace
43:11Closure
43:12Closed its
43:13airspace
43:14to Indian
43:15flights
43:15disrupting
43:16air travel
43:16between
43:17two nations
43:18Visa
43:19and trade
43:19restrictions
43:20Revoked
43:21Visas
43:22for Indian
43:22Nationals
43:23ordered their
43:24departure
43:24within 48
43:25hours
43:26Suspended
43:27all bilateral
43:28trade
43:29Warning
43:30over Indus
43:31Water
43:31Treaty
43:32declared
43:32that any
43:33disruption
43:34in the Indus
43:35Water
43:35Treaty
43:35by India
43:36would be
43:37considered
43:38an act
43:39of war
43:39April 24th
43:40April 24th
43:41to 25th
43:43military
43:43posturing
43:44and border
43:45scumishes
43:45Pakistan
43:46prepared
43:47for live
43:48fire
43:48missile
43:49testing
43:49exercises
43:50in response
43:51to India's
43:52deployment
43:52of the
43:53INS
43:53Vikrant
43:54in the
43:54Arabian Sea
43:55exchanged
43:56gunfire
43:57with Indian
43:58troops
43:58along
43:58the
43:59LOC
43:59expelled
44:01Indian
44:01diplomats
44:02and military
44:03advisors
44:03April 25th
44:06public protest
44:07and international
44:08appeals
44:09demonstrators
44:10gathered outside
44:11Indian High
44:12Commission
44:12in protest
44:13Pakistan
44:15called for
44:15international
44:16intervention
44:17as usual
44:18with all
44:20the
44:20provocatory
44:20statements
44:21and
44:21war
44:21mongering
44:22coming
44:22from
44:22Pakistan
44:23the
44:24country
44:24is
44:25isolated
44:25with
44:26global
44:26solidarity
44:27standing
44:28firmly
44:28with
44:28India
44:29India
44:31till now
44:31has
44:32retaliated
44:32with
44:33diplomatic
44:33measures
44:34all eyes
44:35now
44:35on
44:36tactical
44:36military
44:37retribution
44:38how
44:39will
44:39India
44:39exact
44:40revenge
44:41and
44:41when
44:42meanwhile
44:43Pakistan
44:44can
44:45continue
44:45with
44:46its
44:46escalatory
44:47rhetoric
44:48and
44:48military
44:49posturing
44:49so
44:53who's
44:53escalating
44:54the
44:54rhetoric
44:55the
44:55military
44:56posturing
44:56the
44:56war
44:57mongering
44:57we'll
44:57take you
44:58through
44:58some
44:58of the
44:58key
44:58figures
44:59from
44:59Pakistan
45:00Asen
45:01Munir
45:01number
45:01one
45:02he's
45:02the
45:02Park
45:02Army
45:03chief
45:03viewers
45:04the
45:04most
45:04powerful
45:05he is
45:06the
45:06one
45:06who
45:06even
45:07before
45:08the
45:08attack
45:08had
45:08floated
45:09the
45:09two
45:09nation
45:09theory
45:10stated
45:11that
45:12Kashmir
45:13was the
45:13jugular
45:14wane
45:14of
45:15India
45:15that's
45:15his
45:15common
45:16viewers
45:16signaling
45:18support
45:18to
45:19terror
45:19proxies
45:20Pehal
45:20Gaam
45:20attack
45:21couldn't
45:21be
45:21carried
45:22out
45:22without
45:22Pakistan
45:24Army's
45:25tacit
45:25support
45:26after
45:27Pehal
45:27Gaam
45:27increased
45:28activity
45:29around
45:29LOC
45:30the
45:30second
45:31figure
45:31Asim
45:31Malik
45:32Pakistan
45:32ISI
45:33chief
45:33director
45:34general
45:35inter
45:35services
45:36intelligence
45:37he
45:37oversees
45:37the
45:38intel
45:38ops
45:38along
45:39the
45:39LOC
45:39manages
45:40covert
45:41support
45:41to
45:41terrorists
45:42advising
45:42on
45:43Pakistan's
45:44next
45:44response
45:45overseeing
45:45disinformation
45:46ops
45:47against
45:47India
45:48a key
45:48figure
45:49in
45:49that
45:49figure
45:51number
45:51three
45:51Khwaja
45:52Asif
45:53Pakistan
45:54defense
45:55minister
45:55Khwaja
45:56Asif's
45:57statement
45:58shaping
45:59Pakistan's
46:00official
46:00response
46:01has warned
46:01of an
46:02all-out
46:03war
46:03against
46:03India
46:04denies
46:05Pakistan
46:05role
46:06in
46:06Pehal
46:06Gaam
46:06attack
46:07calling
46:07for
46:07global
46:08intervention
46:09figure
46:10number
46:10four
46:11Isakdar
46:12Pakistan
46:12foreign
46:13minister
46:13and deputy
46:14prime
46:15minister
46:15publicly
46:16denied
46:17Pakistan's
46:17involvement
46:18in
46:18Pehal
46:18Gaam
46:18attack
46:19hailed
46:19mind
46:20you
46:20hailed
46:21Pehal
46:21Gaam
46:21terrorists
46:22as
46:22freedom
46:22fighters
46:23called
46:24the
46:24Indus
46:24Pact
46:25suspension
46:25and
46:26act
46:26of
46:27war
46:27Pakistan's
46:28prime
46:29minister
46:29Shahbaz
46:30Sharif
46:30announced
46:31retaliatory
46:32diplomatic
46:32measures
46:33against
46:33India
46:33calls
46:34Pakistan
46:34links
46:35to
46:35Pehal
46:35Gaam
46:35baseless
46:36vows
46:37to
46:37protect
46:37Pakistan
46:38water
46:38rights
46:38at
46:39all
46:39costs
46:40all
46:41coming
46:42together
46:43to
46:43form
46:43in
46:44fact
46:44the
46:45Pakistan
46:45power
46:46play
46:47where it
46:48comes
46:48into
46:49escalating
46:50the
46:50rhetoric
46:51and
46:51war
46:51mongering
46:52against
46:53India
46:53all
46:56right
46:56with
46:56that
46:57it's
46:57a
46:57wrap
46:57on
46:57to
46:57the
46:57point
46:58this
46:58evening
46:58thank you
46:58for
46:59watching
46:59we'll
46:59see you
46:59Monday