Political scientist Nathalie Tocci says the far-right’s success is largely fueled by fear spreading in society.
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00:00Okay, Natalie, is it just words, this fear?
00:06Well, I don't think so, because I actually do think that, you know, poll after poll, this comes out.
00:13Yeah, I mean, people feel scared, they are insecure, and the more they feel scared and insecure,
00:19and the more they support the far right.
00:21This is not just my opinion.
00:22I think you need therapy.
00:23You know, we started this conversation right at the beginning.
00:25Just let Natalie finish. Thanks, Dominic.
00:27Don't worry, I have, yeah, exactly.
00:30I think you can go and insult some of your other colleagues.
00:33I don't know you, I've never met you, so please go and insult someone else, okay?
00:37I'm not insulting.
00:39You're talking about the fear all the time.
00:41I'm not insulting.
00:42You're talking about the fear all the time.
00:43Dominic, just let Natalie finish her comment, please.
00:47Okay, listen, I don't think I actually can continue this conversation in this way.
00:52I think this man really needs to calm down a little bit.
00:55I mean, I think everyone is being extremely calm and polite, and there's this shouting voice on issues that are often completely unrelated to this conversation.
01:05So anyway, I was talking about data, right?
01:09We started this conversation calmly about data, and there is data supporting the fact that the more there is fear and anxiety,
01:17and the more there is support for the far right.
01:19I'm not talking about whether the MEP here is scared or not.
01:24I'm not particularly interested in whether he is scared or not.
01:27I'm talking about the kind of things that the public says it feels, right?