π Thought-Provoking Dialogue: Spirituality Meets Science in This Groundbreaking Conversation
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Why this matters: Whether skeptic or seeker, this dialogue challenges conventional views on mind, body, and the unseen forces shaping our world.
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Join Robert Scott Bell and Mike Adams as they dive into uncharted territory, blending spirituality, holistic health, and scientific inquiry. In this eye-opening discussion, they unpack:
The intersection of consciousness and physical health π±π‘
How ancient spiritual practices align (or clash) with modern science βοΈπΏ
Personal journeys of healing, intuition, and awakening to higher truths π
Why this matters: Whether skeptic or seeker, this dialogue challenges conventional views on mind, body, and the unseen forces shaping our world.
#SpiritualityTalks #Consciousness #HolisticHealth #MindBodySpirit #CovertClarity #ScienceAndSpirit #HealingJourney #AncientWisdom #ModernScience #ThoughtLeadership
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00:00Oh, it's incredible.
00:01You and I have known each other 20 years or something?
00:03Easily.
00:04I'm thinking when you first appeared,
00:06we did those Health Ranger reports on the Robert Scott Bell Show.
00:08You remember that?
00:09Yeah, I do.
00:09Super Don was there doing his thing.
00:11And just to see what you have toured me to see here just blows my mind.
00:16Because when we were talking together about these issues,
00:18I don't know that I could have predicted where we are today,
00:22even the good stuff especially, because we've seen a lot of the bad.
00:25So the journey that we've been on,
00:27I think it's important to continue to share these stories
00:28that people wake up today and they don't know how we got here.
00:31There's a lot of that happening.
00:32That's true.
00:33And there is so much we want to cover here.
00:36But, okay, here's where we are today, right?
00:38You and I are filming this end of April 2025.
00:41Trump's president, RFK Jr., his head of HHS,
00:45both of those things were pretty major milestones to achieve.
00:50Secretary Kennedy, as we must now refer to him,
00:53has just announced this banning of food dyes,
00:56which, of course, we support that.
00:58But I've also kind of mocked it as, like, okay, fine,
01:02but what about the way more important stuff?
01:05So my question to you is, where do you think this is headed?
01:09Because I still have faith in Secretary Kennedy
01:11and his motivations and his knowledge.
01:14But what do you think he's going to be able to accomplish?
01:17Well, I think from his experience,
01:19and when he came on the scene back in the early, mid-2000s,
01:23having met all these moms that presented him research
01:26about mercury, vaccines, that kind of thing,
01:28I was impressed with his willingness to take that on,
01:31the untakeable honorable, if you were on the inside, right?
01:34Here's a guy with, you know, royalty in the political world of the 20th century.
01:38And his willingness to do that, I notched that.
01:41I said, okay, this guy's rather interesting.
01:43But I still, as it evolved, I always had this sneaking concern
01:46that just like anybody coming from a family like that,
01:49that there's sort of a play that we don't see here.
01:52But as I've seen him consistently throughout the years,
01:54I've interacted with him some, not as much as others,
01:56but been impressed that his track record shows to me
02:01that he is sincere, legitimate.
02:03I was genuinely moved when he talked about the prayers
02:05that he would engage in every day,
02:07and it was a very selfless prayer.
02:09Not for anything self-aggrandizing,
02:12but please put me in a place where I can help these children.
02:14I thought, you know, it would make my heart happy to hear that.
02:18And then, pretty extraordinary thing,
02:20the impossible happened with the statement,
02:22and then God sent me Donald Trump.
02:24Now, that, of course, sent the left into an apoplectic fit.
02:28For one, they don't like anything God-related often,
02:30but let's put that aside and just recognize that,
02:34you know, even for those of us, we don't worship Trump,
02:36we don't worship Kennedy, we don't worship political figures,
02:38but we really do know that if you believe in God or something greater,
02:42that we all can be, at any moment, used for good,
02:45or we can choose bad purposes.
02:48And so, for those that had the derangement syndrome
02:50or the black-pilled view of the world, right,
02:53nothing matters, it's all rigged, everything's, you know,
02:56that's something I never would adopt,
02:58even though I know I have some empathy for people that are there
03:01because they've been through so much for so long.
03:03But yet, there's a plus factor in life.
03:05That's what I've found.
03:06There's miracles that occur every day,
03:08and the fact is, it's not written in stone, that future,
03:10despite, you know, and I know you've been going into, like,
03:12heavy-level biblical stuff, prophecy stuff.
03:15It's fascinating.
03:16You know, I talk to Superdome, I'm like,
03:17I can't believe Mike's doing what he's doing.
03:19Like, do you want to alienate that much of your audience?
03:22You're like, whatever, this is what I'm learning.
03:24So, I just, I sit back and laugh,
03:26and I try to be a little gentle with those things,
03:29but I appreciate the fact that you don't back down.
03:31But the willingness to confront these uncomfortable,
03:35both historical and contemporary realities,
03:37and also recognize that even prophecy from ages ago
03:40is not set in stone, that there is grace.
03:43There are opportunities to make choices in the moment
03:46that we might have predicted they're going to go this way,
03:48and then they go another way.
03:50And when people say to me, well, people don't change,
03:52I'm like, I look at my own self in the mirror and say,
03:54how many things have I changed in my life
03:56when I was completely ignorant,
03:58pharmaceutically, medically oriented,
04:00and now here I am, you know, homeopath 30 years,
04:0325 years in broadcast media.
04:04I didn't know any of this as I grew up
04:07for the first 24 years of my life.
04:09And so, and then I look at other people
04:10that have changed marginally or significantly
04:13in their lifetime, and I say,
04:15there's always an opportunity for change.
04:17And that, I don't think it's a naive perspective
04:20that I carry, because I'm very aware of the dark forces.
04:23We've interacted with them.
04:24There are times in my learning and research
04:27that I've hidden under the covers.
04:29Honestly, it's like, this is too scary.
04:30I don't want to come out.
04:31And then you find a way back out and say,
04:33well, I'm here for a purpose and for a reason,
04:35and I want to live up to that.
04:36And I can't be too cocky that I've achieved it
04:39and there's no more to learn
04:40or that I could never be also compromised.
04:43We have to maintain that level of humility too
04:45in the midst of it, even though I know a lot of stuff,
04:47you know a lot of stuff.
04:48It's like, it's a real trap to go, I know it all.
04:51And that happens.
04:52We've seen friends that's happened to.
04:53So I just speak in the larger journey
04:56that there's always an opportunity for grace
04:58and for miracles.
05:01Well, I love the way that you approach things
05:03and you definitely have a more gentle approach
05:05than do I.
05:07Yeah, I tend to provoke people
05:09or sometimes polarize people.
05:11But the common thread of what I've run into,
05:13kind of to answer some of what you brought up there,
05:15is that humanity has been kept in the dark
05:18throughout all time.
05:21Information has been denied us
05:23and what Google is doing today
05:25as a disinformation search engine
05:27that banishes the truth about health.
05:30I was shocked to find out
05:32when I began really studying
05:33and teaching the scripture,
05:35I was shocked to find out a couple of things
05:37like the Bible that we know
05:40is a censored version
05:43of the far greater set of writings, right?
05:46And there's the lost books,
05:47the hidden books, the hidden scrolls,
05:49the Vatican is sitting on,
05:50a whole archive of stuff they won't release.
05:52And so I'm like, well, why is this what we're taught
05:56and not these other things?
05:58Oh, you're not supposed to know about the giants
05:59or Enoch, which is the name of my AI engine.
06:03And then I found out that a lot of people
06:06who call themselves Christians
06:07have never honestly read the book of Revelation
06:10because Revelation is just never taught
06:13in mainstream churches at all.
06:16And so what I found is that
06:17what most people believe about Revelation
06:19is not what they read,
06:20but it's what somebody told them.
06:21And then when I challenge them
06:24and I say like, hey,
06:25in Revelation chapter 19,
06:27verse 11 forward,
06:30is there any mention of Jesus at all?
06:33And if they go read it,
06:34like, wow, no, it's not in there.
06:36You know, or find the word rapture
06:39anywhere in the Bible.
06:40And it's not there.
06:42So I like to provoke people
06:45to explore and learn
06:47by getting you to open the book.
06:50This is amazing to watch that aspect
06:52because I know that so much of our history
06:55has been selective censorship.
06:57It has, 100%.
06:58And for me, you know,
07:00when I started my journey
07:01with health being that leading,
07:03you know, that flag carrying the health flag,
07:05it was a recognition
07:06that maybe I could break through
07:07their own censors, right?
07:09And the individual who has the censor,
07:11because it's like,
07:11we're motivated to be well for the most part.
07:13We want to be healthy.
07:14And it didn't confront
07:16any religious dogma necessarily,
07:18although there's some
07:19that you can't help
07:19to kind of step on toes.
07:22But I recognize, you know,
07:23people have their beliefs,
07:24their delusions, illusions, etc.
07:25And that's part of this journey.
07:27And it's not like I want to disabuse them
07:29of that for sport, right?
07:30No, not for sport.
07:31Some people do that.
07:32But I recognize...
07:33Although that would be,
07:34that would be an exciting sport.
07:36It could be fun if you,
07:37you know, if you're into watching,
07:38people just, you know,
07:39lose it as they see reality
07:40suddenly challenge.
07:41Like instantly red-pilled.
07:42Yeah, exactly.
07:43It's too much too soon.
07:44And I said, you know,
07:45what if I had learned
07:46all that I know today,
07:4725 years ago or 30 years ago or more?
07:50And it's so shocking that,
07:52you know, you would end up
07:53physically ill or worse.
07:54Yeah.
07:55And so I'm sensitive to that,
07:56but I recognize it's also not my role
07:58nor your role to protect people
07:59from what we call truth.
08:01But I don't think that,
08:02you know, correct me if I'm wrong,
08:04that you're doing it for purposes of,
08:06you know, I don't like these people.
08:08I don't, you know,
08:08it's sort of like,
08:09hey, you know,
08:09there's stuff you didn't know.
08:10And we're at a time
08:12where we can't keep that under wraps.
08:15I'm here to free people's minds.
08:18Like that's it.
08:19And it's funny because on Twitter,
08:20everybody's talking about
08:21where are the Epstein files?
08:23So I could follow that up
08:24and say, well,
08:24where are the Bible files?
08:25Yeah, this has been a long journey.
08:27You want the Epstein files.
08:29What about the thousands of years
08:30of files you haven't been allowed to see?
08:32Don't you want to see those?
08:33What's actually written there?
08:35See, so I think that much of human history
08:38has been hidden from us.
08:39And then,
08:40and I'm talking not even scripture now,
08:42but just events of history.
08:44You want to go real controversial?
08:46Of course we do.
08:47Yeah, why not?
08:48Well, here's the thing,
08:49you know,
08:49the brutality and ugliness of humanity
08:52against humanity throughout history.
08:54It's not new.
08:55You can see it in the Bible,
08:56but in a contemporary way,
08:57we can focus on the atrocities in Ukraine.
08:59We can look at Israel,
09:01Palestinian stuff.
09:02And, you know,
09:03this is my perspective.
09:04Again, I'm not telling people what to believe,
09:06but I'm like,
09:06it made no sense to me
09:08that you were born into a situation like that.
09:11And then done, you're out.
09:12And of course,
09:13if you get into Christian theology,
09:14you didn't get to meet Jesus or accept Jesus.
09:16It's over.
09:16You're done.
09:17You're burning in hell.
09:17Because, I mean,
09:18that's the extremes of it.
09:19And I'm not trying to offend,
09:20but I'm just saying,
09:21these are the things that I thought.
09:22And what about the atrocities during Nazi Germany?
09:25Even though some of the stories were exaggerated,
09:27the numbers aren't exact,
09:28but still there was some bad stuff that happened.
09:30Nobody disputes that.
09:31I don't.
09:31Growing up, you know.
09:32Like IG Farben, man.
09:33Yeah.
09:33Oh, it's brutal and ugly.
09:35What about those people that engaged
09:37in the brutal torture and killing of innocents,
09:41children, gays, Jews, gypsies, whatever.
09:44They get out of this and that's it?
09:46I'm like,
09:46let's bring them back.
09:48They're now born into Palestine.
09:49And the people that were victimized are now in Israel.
09:57You follow what I'm saying here?
09:58Are you saying reincarnation now?
09:59Yes, I am.
10:00I know.
10:01Again, that's why I said it.
10:02I'm going to go controversial.
10:03It is controversial among Christians.
10:05Well, and among some of the teachings of early Christianity,
10:07it wasn't a controversy until we need to control the people
10:10and let them know they only have one time through.
10:13And if they don't get it right, they're screwed.
10:14Now we have control over them.
10:15Yeah.
10:16So I believe it was also part of early Christianity.
10:19The, you know, we get into the more mystic side,
10:23Christian mysticism, Gnosticism, et cetera.
10:24Yeah.
10:25So here I am saying this just as a concern I have
10:28that if we are duped into believing we only get this one shot
10:32and we're done, I just don't find that reasonable.
10:35That's just me talking.
10:36Sure, yeah.
10:37I mean, there's a lot to learn.
10:38I'm open to this conversation, but you know,
10:40that's classic Buddhism.
10:41It could be considered that, but it's not exclusive to Buddhism.
10:44No, it's not exclusive to Buddhism.
10:45I mean, Hinduism, for example, right?
10:47Yeah, yeah.
10:48But it also brings, I love that we're having
10:50a philosophical discussion here,
10:51but it brings in the question of then original sin.
10:54Are you born with sin?
10:57And of course, you know, the Catholic church
10:58and the Christian church has argued that for millennia.
11:01Right.
11:01So you're born with sin, which is kind of, you know,
11:03this is the same as what medicine says about your immune system.
11:06Like you're born with immune sin.
11:09Yeah.
11:09And the only way to treat your immune sin is with a vaccine.
11:13And then you are saved.
11:14Yes.
11:14Right.
11:15It's actually the same story as Catholicism to say you're born in sin.
11:20You can only be saved through the Catholic church.
11:22You know who wrote about this extensively and so well?
11:25Our dear friend who's passed from this place.
11:27Maybe he's back by now.
11:28Liam Sheff.
11:28Yes, Liam.
11:29His book, Official Stories and so many things that he,
11:31he talked about the repeating patterns throughout history,
11:33the mythologies that would replay through various teachings, religions.
11:37You know, we got East and West differentiation.
11:39We got differentiation within each religion.
11:41You know, how many sects of Christianity are there?
11:43How many versions of Judaism or Islam, et cetera?
11:46And it's the human experience.
11:48You know, we like to tell ourselves stories.
11:49We like to glom onto ones that feel right for us.
11:52Yet we have, you know, we're a storytelling species.
11:54We are a tribal species as well.
11:56And so we try to find people that have maybe a similar state of consciousness
12:00that make us feel good and comfortable.
12:01I guess I was never one that sat still in that space.
12:05Now, what drew me deeper and deeper is wanting to know why I was sick.
12:10And realizing, you know, we go back to censorship.
12:12We realize the history of contemporary modern medicine
12:15is a censorship of all other forms of medicine that preceded it.
12:18Absolutely.
12:18But this, this is the control mechanism throughout all of human history
12:22is to control people through institutions,
12:27scientism, Catholicism, evangelical Christianity,
12:32or LGBT cultism, climate cultism,
12:35what do they all have in common?
12:38Controlling people by limiting knowledge.
12:40Yeah.
12:40And creating an us versus them Hegelian dialectic everywhere you look.
12:44Yes.
12:44And if we believe that we are created of God, by God, in God's image,
12:48however that perceives, however you perceive it,
12:51why would we adopt that?
12:53To what benefit to us?
12:55Because I've found over the years, you know,
12:57I've got friends that I call family from various religious backgrounds,
13:01scientific knowledge or none.
13:02And there's a heart connection because we come from the same place.
13:06And we just, for some reason, we have to wear a flag or, you know,
13:08raise a flag and go, uh-uh, it's mine or the highway.
13:10I'm like, dude, how many times do we have to do that before we go,
13:13okay, I've had my fun, I'm done.
13:15And this, to me, is a very spiritual forward focus, not one that's anti-whatever.
13:21It's more or less promotion of what is this journey for you?
13:24How does it feel right?
13:25Because if you are aligned in a sense of not wanting to look at the things you're bringing up
13:29and you're happy there, I'm going to go, yeah,
13:30as long as you're not violating the rights of others, harming and killing people.
13:33Yeah, true.
13:34Knock yourself out.
13:34It's great.
13:35I love that it lifts you up and your heart is happy.
13:37Well, every person is welcome to their own delusions.
13:40Exactly.
13:41God gave us that ability, choice, agency.
13:43Right, and just for the record, by the way, I believe in our Creator.
13:47I believe in Jesus Christ and that He died for our sins, just to be clear.
13:51And at the same time, I will question Christians who say that Jesus said He is the only one and
13:59true way to God, because I'll bring up logic and say, well, what about all the Jews who
14:03lived before the time of Jesus?
14:05Did they all go to hell?
14:07So are you anti-Semite now because you say all Jews went to hell before?
14:10Or what about modern Jews?
14:12They don't recognize Christ as a Savior, but Islam does.
14:15Islam recognizes Christ at least as a prophet, not their Savior.
14:18Muhammad is their Savior.
14:19But Islam actually has more in common with Christians than Jews in terms of recognizing
14:24Christ.
14:25And then people's heads go, and that's why we're showing like scenes of hell.
14:28Yeah.
14:29On the video.
14:30I don't know.
14:30Like what is the law that says?
14:31Y'all are going to hell.
14:32It's like, oh my God, you're all going to hell.
14:33Robert, I used to like you.
14:35I can't believe you said these things.
14:36Yeah, I just think that the conversation needs to happen.
14:40It's adult, it's mature, and it's not in any way, in my attempt, to denigrate anyone.
14:45And words are not explosive vests, okay?
14:49Yeah.
14:49You know, we should be able to talk in words and let people think about things.
14:54Yeah.
14:54Like your, whatever, even to our audience, whatever your religious beliefs are, whatever
14:59your science beliefs are, whatever, they should be internally consistent.
15:04Yeah.
15:05That's my point.
15:06They should be internally consistent.
15:08So if you have, even like, let's say the flat earth people, okay, right?
15:11Right.
15:11Which is a pretty big movement right now.
15:13And I even said the other day, I admire the ability of the flat earth movement.
15:20I don't agree with their conclusion, but I admire their ability to question, to ask big
15:26questions.
15:27Yeah.
15:28I admire that.
15:29Yeah.
15:29I don't have a problem with that either.
15:31And we welcome them all on the show.
15:33I mean, we have fun and we make fun of one another, but it's in love, not spite and hate.
15:37Right.
15:37That's the thing, the greatest humor, the insult humor of, uh, uh, you know, some of
15:40the greatest comedians of the 20th century and, you know, Dangerfield, Dangerfield and
15:45others, they did it because they love people.
15:47They love humanity and the difference.
15:49And it is a difference versus what we see of the political left in their form of humor.
15:53It's usually done and it coming from hate and anger.
15:56Yeah.
15:56And, and it's not, that's what doesn't land that way.
15:59And then you find occasionally they'll, they'll start making fun of themselves and you're thinking,
16:03did they, did they find, you know, comedy Jesus finally, you know, that they actually
16:06they're funny or is it just that they're seeing the winds are blowing in that regard.
16:10But I, you know, I was the ability to laugh at yourself and not take yourself too seriously.
16:14Totally.
16:15So critical on this path.
16:16So anybody upset by what you're saying, you know, lighten up.
16:20And I, and I, I just say that in a loving way.
16:22Yeah.
16:23Yeah.
16:23I'm the same way.
16:24Yeah.
16:25And what I find is sometimes I'll have a conversation with somebody about some of these things
16:29and they freak out at first.
16:30And then a couple of days later, like, you know what?
16:33Yeah.
16:33I actually did then start to think about that and you're right.
16:37And I went back and reread this and I'm like, great.
16:39So you're reading scripture again.
16:40Yeah.
16:41That's awesome.
16:41Mission accomplished.
16:42That's awesome.
16:43So going back to the whole censorship thing, whether it be a religious dogma of you of the
16:48Bible or extraneous books that were, you know, censored out of it, all of that, you know,
16:52as we come back to the health discussion, which is a big part of both of our journey.
16:55Totally.
16:55That's where we all really started.
16:57Like, how did I, how did I grow up in America, the freest country and never hear the word homeopathy
17:02until I'm 24 years of age?
17:03I know.
17:03It's crazy.
17:04Yeah.
17:04And that, that began my journey and that uncovered a lot of uncomfortable things where it wasn't
17:10just in health.
17:11It was in the various religions.
17:12It was in science.
17:13It was named, named the arena money economics, right?
17:17Absolutely.
17:17So I was driven to dig deep below the surface in all of those areas and, you know, start
17:21the show in 1999 and just let loose with health primarily as the focus and health freedom.
17:26And occasionally we could stretch out into other areas.
17:28And I appreciate, you know, the audience being willing.
17:30Yeah.
17:30That's just Robert being Robert.
17:32He's all right.
17:32He's good.
17:33Yeah.
17:33Because I don't think of myself as harmful or harmless.
17:37Just this is who I am.
17:38And we try to bring what we experience in life to, to the audience for, for hopefully
17:42their benefit.
17:42Well, you make a really good point.
17:44So the way you and I operate and let me give out your website to robertscottbell.com and
17:50yeah, there we, we have it on screen.
17:52Yeah.
17:52And you know, your show is amazing.
17:55I I'm watching your clips constantly.
17:56You have great guests on, for example, you and I are both always consistently acting in
18:01good faith for humanity.
18:03Now, whether or not the audience agrees with every single point that we say, that doesn't
18:08betray the fact that you and I have a, an intrinsic love for human beings.
18:13And that love can sometimes get us into trouble.
18:18So, so let me, let me give you an example.
18:20I, I, I tweeted out the other day.
18:22I said, I have a new golden rule.
18:25I'm going to treat you the way you treat Palestinian children and boom, kaboom, you know, every,
18:32everything blows up.
18:33Everybody loses their minds.
18:34I'm like, Hey, if you can't, and again, this is just my personal view, right?
18:39But I say, I love humanity, which means I can't support a campaign that bombs civilians,
18:48especially as a Christian, especially as a Christian.
18:52I can't support that.
18:53But I just decided that, um, the golden rule is a good rule.
18:59Treat others as you wish to be treated and then inflict upon others as they would inflict
19:04upon you.
19:05You know what I'm saying?
19:06Like if, if, if, if someone's out there saying let's bomb children, I'm like, I'm not going
19:11to treat you like a human.
19:11And as I described the potential or the consideration for, uh, living multiple lifetimes just to
19:18balance the scales, it isn't to put the people that are doing this off the hook or get, give
19:24them off the hook.
19:24It's just saying you have a choice to continue the same pattern where you have the opportunity
19:28to learn because God's grace and love for you gives you the opportunity to dive to the
19:33depths of the most ugly places, but find redemption somehow, some way, whether you do it through
19:37a Christian theological perspective or an experiential time and time again, you know, I'm not attached
19:42to this.
19:43I'm just sharing you, you know, with you, my perspectives on this.
19:46And I think that, uh, let me ask you, how do you, how do you graduate from the cycle of
19:51reincarnation in your thinking on, on this?
19:55That's a great question.
19:56I mean, in my experience, it's, you know, how do you engage in what we call karma less
20:00action, right?
20:01And, and in a very general sense, anybody can do this by declaring themselves a vehicle channel
20:07for divine love, for God's love, for, for Christ's love and everything you do in that
20:11name.
20:11Now, I'm not saying you didn't then go back and do the same bad things, but you're now
20:14you're doing in that.
20:15Obviously it seems silly, but sometimes you have to say these things, but in one sense,
20:20uh, finding a guide, whether it be the Bible that inspires you to live a good and godly
20:25life, you begin to break the cycle of creating more attachments to having to return, return,
20:30return.
20:31And whether you believe or perceive that, you know, you're, you got it in one or you're one
20:35and done or not, it is a continuity, an opportunity to learn just as we would go through a schooling
20:41cycle in one lifetime.
20:42How much can we learn?
20:43Some people can learn a lot, but dude, there is so much as much as I've learned.
20:47I'm like, dude, there's so much more.
20:48So I, again, I can't prove that to anybody.
20:51I can just say that in my experience, my belief system, what I've encountered, what I've
20:56remembered, the others might say that's delusional and that's okay.
20:59I'm not here to prove it to anybody.
21:01That's the other thing.
21:01It's not, it doesn't bother me that people believe different things, just, you know,
21:05I'm at peace with that perspective, that longer view that, you know, puts the, you know, the
21:09old, the age old question, you know, I'd ask the rabbis, the priest, everybody's like, you
21:14know, why do bad things happen to good people?
21:15Why is a child born in Ethiopia dies in a few days?
21:17All of those things.
21:18And we all struggle with how do we answer that?
21:20And most of the answers that were given to me were not adequate to what satisfied me and
21:26or you have to wait to die to find that out.
21:29And I'm like, no, that's even worse than that.
21:31Now, because I've had what we call NDEs or near-death experiences in my life.
21:35Uh-huh.
21:36I want to ask you about that.
21:37Right.
21:38Finding myself separate from this physical shell obviously changed my worldview and anybody
21:42that has died and come back typically sees things differently and they lose a fear of
21:46death, which is really a fear of living, ironically.
21:49I have no fear of dying, by the way.
21:52Zero.
21:53But have you had an NDE?
21:55No, but I've had an angelic intervention that saved my life.
21:58There you go.
21:58Yeah, yeah.
21:59Those kind of what we call spiritually transformative experiences.
22:02Actually, I was invited by Spiritual Awakenings International, SAI, it's non-denominational,
22:06everybody's welcome, to do the closing meditation of their event in June on love, divine love.
22:12Sounds great.
22:13And, you know, sometimes we get so enamored and fearful of power and I was like, what
22:18is the most powerful force in the universe?
22:19I believe it's love.
22:20It's divine love.
22:21Yes.
22:22Detached love.
22:22But a love that God gives to us and to all of us.
22:24And yet we fall prey to fear all of the time.
22:27And we might speak a good game, whether it be biblical or otherwise, about love.
22:30And then we fall prey to fear.
22:32That can happen to all of us, yes.
22:33And so I wanted to really emphasize that that love that gave us life is more powerful than
22:40power itself.
22:40It's the healing force of the universe.
22:42Absolutely.
22:43It's the basis.
22:43And when I've said as a homeopath, my role is not to find the right remedy for someone
22:47who comes to help, which is weird.
22:48It's like, wait a second, why are they coming to you?
22:49Well, that may be part of it, but it's really to acknowledge and remind them of the true
22:53source of all their healing, which is their divinity, their relationship to the divine.
22:56And from there, everything comes, you know, and the recognition that homeopathy works
23:02is actually a confirmation of the nature of love as it is infused through all of us and
23:09love and consciousness together.
23:11Because I think homeopathy is an expression of consciousness through physical matter.
23:15Very much so.
23:16And it's such a threat to the established order, not just the medical order, but think about
23:20healthy people.
23:21How much do they depend or rely upon external government or experts or authorities?
23:25And so that's one of the biggest battles that we've faced since the 1790s when Hahnemann
23:30developed homeopathy.
23:31It's like he basically made a medicine that anybody can make and access for pennies if
23:36they know how to do it.
23:37And I love teaching people how to do it, but I also want them to be able to get it.
23:40And yet in the Biden four years of COVID crazy, his FDA, if you can call it that, basically
23:46remove the compliance policy guide 400.400, which basically gave guidance for here's how
23:52you market and sell homeopathic medicines in what we'd love to have.
23:55Have a free market for that.
23:56Yeah, because they were getting ready to just completely outlaw it.
23:59They were going to try, but they would have to do a congressional act because it was the
24:02Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act of 1938 passed in 1939 that grandfathered the pharmacopoeia.
24:07So it was a legally recognized drug system.
24:10People are like, it's a drug?
24:11Well, it's not the same as the allopathic, but it just adopted the compendia, the pharmacopoeia.
24:16So you had the ability to be there as a legally recognized drug system in America.
24:20Exactly.
24:20And that got deleted.
24:21Until Biden and the COVID thing happened.
24:23Well, and that's the theme that we're talking about here today.
24:26The deletion of knowledge.
24:28Yeah.
24:29From human consciousness, from memory, from history.
24:31They wanted to wipe out homeopathy from all of history.
24:34And actually, the entire censorship regime under Biden, which has now been largely exposed,
24:40and a lot of it's being unraveled, that regime was designed to do the same thing, to label
24:45anybody who questioned the narratives as misinformation or disinformation.
24:50The GEC, right?
24:53Rubio has dismantled a lot of that now.
24:56And those people have been fired.
24:57But that's all to silence us asking questions.
25:01Yeah, man, a good friend of ours, Sayer G, is, you know, was on the list.
25:05You were on the list, all the dirty, disinfo dozen that was 13 or more.
25:09We've seen that it's a globalist agenda.
25:12It's not just a dark state and only America.
25:15In fact, it had almost nothing to do with it.
25:17It was in the UK, too.
25:17Right?
25:18And so you're realizing, how deep does that rabbit hole go?
25:21Then we come back to Alex Jones, like, dude, he's been saying this stuff for how long?
25:24Yeah.
25:24Like, it's wild to think all the things that were conspiratorial, even to some of our community,
25:29recognizing it's mild today to say the things that are being said in mainstream, you know,
25:35whether it be media, but certainly in circles of polite company, we can say these things
25:39and not be considered even controversial.
25:41Yeah.
25:42It's wild.
25:43Hey, can I ask you about your NDE?
25:45Yes.
25:45During your NDE experience, did you surrender the identity that you know of today as Robert Scott Bell,
25:56or were you still in the Robert Scott Bell identity?
26:00I was aware that I was in this present incarnation at that time.
26:05Okay.
26:05And I ended up, of course, in a place of such beauty, and, you know, it was very much
26:10a natural setting, which kind of was conducive, I guess, you know, to what I appreciate so
26:15much.
26:15But still, it was like, what the heck is going on?
26:17The colors are more vivid.
26:19I could smell, I could feel the wind, I could feel the warmth of the sun.
26:22And years later, I went to a spiritual seminar, and the artwork on the promotion for that thing
26:29when I arrived was the exact place I had been.
26:31Wow.
26:31I mean, somebody had obviously been there, too, and did this beautiful painting of it.
26:35It was like years later.
26:36It was like a little bit of a confirmation of my journey.
26:38But it wasn't a real place, a physical place in this world.
26:40Not to my knowledge, no.
26:41Okay.
26:41It was a different level of consciousness.
26:43Or, you know, if we talk about planes of existence, I look at that from a roadmap perspective,
26:48and like we have a physical shell or body we're in.
26:50There's an emotional body, a mental body.
26:52Yes.
26:52Even a causal or, you know, a memory-type body going to beyond that into what I call our true
26:58spiritual cells as soul.
26:59And this is another thing about, you know, my nitpicking on language.
27:03It's like people always talk about having a soul.
27:05I'm like, how can you have what you are?
27:06How can you possess what you are?
27:08You don't have a soul.
27:08You are that.
27:09Good point.
27:10This is the, you know, this is the illusion that we inhabit.
27:12And when you leave in that way, or whether you can do it consciously, because I believe
27:16you can, you don't have to die.
27:18That was my experience.
27:19It was like, oh, I got to find out how to do this without dying.
27:21And that became a practice for me to recognize that, indeed, I am soul.
27:25Yeah, you have a body.
27:26Yes, exactly.
27:27Right, but you are a soul.
27:30Yeah, and it's not controversial to say I'm a spiritual being having human experiences
27:33now.
27:33A lot of people go, yeah.
27:34Yeah, that used to be considered like crazy new age stuff.
27:37And now it should be commonly accepted.
27:39Yeah.
27:40Yeah.
27:40Okay.
27:40So let me ask you this question then about reincarnation.
27:44And I also believe in a format of that, which I'll explain here.
27:51I just want to run this by you, see what you think.
27:53In the book of Revelation, it talks about how all the dead souls are then brought up for
28:01judgment.
28:02And your book of life, all the recordings of all your deeds are then judged by God.
28:06And then, you know, you're sorted out heaven or hell, basically.
28:09Yeah.
28:09But in heaven, which is elaborately described in the later chapters, like, I don't know,
28:14chapters 24, 25, whatever it is, talks about then your soul, which is in this other place
28:20that is not earth, not a 3D world, right?
28:22It's this other place.
28:24You rejoin this stream of life that comes from the throne of the creator.
28:30And in my mind, that's always interpreted as your soul is, it's really like the gift
28:39of life from God, the gift of breath from God is that he gives you your soul identity
28:44as a fraction of himself.
28:46And that during this life, you are this container, this soul container, but you rejoin with God.
28:55Yes.
28:56A lot of people who have died and come back have had that experience.
28:59So what if reincarnation is actually that each of us, in essence, being part of God, have
29:06lived through everybody else's life?
29:08Sure.
29:08Yeah.
29:08And that's certainly a possible interpretation.
29:11That's why I say, when I talk about this, it's not with attachment.
29:13I'm not trying to convince anybody.
29:14Because I talk with folks from different views on that, that bring things like that
29:18up, that we had experiences in an unearthly way, right?
29:22And so we're misinterpreting it or reinterpreting it.
29:25And that's fine.
29:25However you take it.
29:27Look, I happen to believe that we inhabit various bodies, probably even right now, that we can't
29:31consciously consider because it'd be overwhelming.
29:34How do you focus on where you are if you become aware suddenly of that, much less if you become
29:38aware?
29:38Why don't you remember all of those past experiences?
29:41I don't know, but my clone is mowing the lawn.
29:43There you go.
29:43At home.
29:44Right now.
29:44That's good.
29:46I gave my clone duties so that I can be free.
29:49Yeah.
29:49Well, and that's the thing.
29:50You can set yourself up to do so many things and bring that information back.
29:53Of course, now we're relying increasingly on what we call AI, as you know, out here, which
29:57is outrageously inventive and creative.
30:00And it could be destructive, as we know.
30:01Yeah.
30:02Clearly.
30:02We are given the freedom to perhaps use it for good, hopefully, in the end.
30:06But I don't know how this plays out.
30:08I don't know either.
30:09But we're here for the play.
30:09But I love your posture on all of this.
30:12This is so fascinating, being able to talk to you about this.
30:14And it's really so freeing.
30:15I mean, honestly, I rarely get to talk to somebody who has your mature mindset and this big picture
30:21perspective.
30:22So let's talk about AI for a second.
30:24Because, of course, I'm launching an AI engine, which is we've eliminated almost all the pharma
30:30bias.
30:31And it's a great research tool for natural health.
30:34It's trained on a lot of homeopathy, too, by the way.
30:36So this is, I think, a positive use of AI.
30:40But the other corporations out there are probably trying to build Skynet, you know, exterminate
30:45humanity and dominate the world.
30:47But at the same time, I've also said, I want a weed-pulling robot that I can buy for my
30:51ranch.
30:52I want a practical robot that can do things that take my time.
30:56But I don't want it to kill me when I'm sleeping.
30:59Seems reasonable.
31:00Right.
31:00So I've said, don't buy robots with opposable thumbs.
31:03I don't want to be able to pick up tools.
31:05But I want a little weed-pulling hoof.
31:09Well, as we talk about the advancements in technology, the whole idea of freeing us up
31:14to do what, right?
31:16What is that?
31:16Fulfill our life's purpose.
31:18Right.
31:18And for you, it's going to be unique and different than anybody else.
31:21That's true.
31:21It's not weeding.
31:22It's not weeding.
31:23You know, every time.
31:23Yeah, exactly.
31:24Every time we connect and we have this mutual admiration where I'm like, I'm amazed at the
31:28things you do.
31:28It just blows me away.
31:29And you say the same.
31:30Likewise, yeah.
31:31At the same time, this is our journey, our soul path.
31:33And we get to interact, which is the most awesome part of this, is that we may recognize
31:37one another from other times and places, whether you perceive how you perceive that.
31:41But you've met people that you have this instant heart connection with.
31:44Yeah.
31:44And it defies explanation.
31:46Okay.
31:46You can interpret it and define it how you want.
31:48I have a perspective on it and I'm comfortable with that.
31:51It makes me happy that there's a soul group or groups that we have had a lot of journeys
31:55and experiences with, either in the other side or here before again.
31:59However, but you recognize these folks.
32:01And you also will meet people that you have this instant aversion to, just an energy that
32:05just revoltses you.
32:07And you may have had interaction with them in a very negative context.
32:10The question is, at that point, do you take that energy and turn it back and continue a
32:14cycle?
32:14Because maybe it was something horrific between you two souls.
32:18And that's the opportunity we are given through grace and through unconditional love
32:22to forgive them.
32:23It doesn't mean it absolves them of responsibility for their action, but it certainly unties you
32:27or untethers you from that karmic relationship.
32:29Right, right.
32:30That's why I don't want to shoot people, even in self-defense.
32:33You can avoid it.
32:34Because I don't want to create a karmic connection to this person.
32:36Sure.
32:37I don't want to be the one that takes their physical life here, right?
32:40Yeah.
32:40So, unless I feel for my safety.
32:44And I believe that there's a karmalist action in true defense, too.
32:47Right.
32:47You know, and if you're operating in a theater of war, if it were actually declared constitutionally.
32:53Right.
32:53That's a different context.
32:54Right.
32:54Exactly.
32:55So, you know, this is the thing.
32:56I don't want people to be so pacifist that anybody can just come off and kill them.
32:59I want you to defend your life.
33:01No.
33:01And that's the weakness of the Buddhists, by the way.
33:03They're so passive that their temples have been overrun by the communist regime.
33:09Hey, by the way, let me ask my crew.
33:10Can we change?
33:12Let's end the fiery hell background, which I didn't even choose that.
33:16I don't know why that was chosen.
33:17Can we go to something more heavenly now?
33:19Just put on some clouds or something.
33:22Sunlight.
33:22Okay.
33:23Let's do that.
33:24And we'll continue.
33:25The imagery is, yeah.
33:26Yeah.
33:26We'll transition to a heavenly image next.
33:31And actually, what's funny, these are vibrations that somebody back there chose this color.
33:38Like, normally, these are purple.
33:39Look, we're challenging some dogma that can be very uncomfortable for folks that believe
33:49in the proverbial burn in hell forever concept versus the ability through grace and the love
33:55of creator and God that we can even, you know, doing the most vile things that perhaps if we
34:00have lived long enough or enough times, whatever, we might have been part of that.
34:04That's why many of us are so revulsed by it, because we've actually witnessed or been party
34:09to in a previous experience.
34:10And we're like, this is disgusting.
34:12This is horrible.
34:13Why do some people engage in that?
34:14What are they thinking?
34:15They're immature souls.
34:16They don't, they haven't learned, obviously, and we're given.
34:19Right.
34:20They haven't, they haven't learned.
34:21And we, I think that, you know, God is constantly watching and judging us as he has judged many,
34:29many previous civilizations, and he expects us to mature as a species.
34:36And honestly, I don't see a lot of evidence that we are, Robert.
34:40I mean, it's a tough one right there.
34:42Yeah, because like Sodom and Gomorrah, which, by the way, God destroyed with giant flaming
34:46comets out of the sky or, you know, space rocks.
34:48Yeah, arguably, we're doing worse things than that on this planet right now.
34:52Clearly, clearly we are on a larger scale.
34:55Yeah.
34:55Are we to be condemned for the acts of those that are still engaged in what we call a spiritually
35:00immature incarnation?
35:01Many are, and then yet many are, making transformations like unpredictably wonderful and beautiful
35:08leaps that are occurring at the same time.
35:11Hey, real quick, by the way, is there anybody back there?
35:13I need the background changed.
35:16Change the background.
35:17Did you hear me request I want to change to clouds or sunlight?
35:21Thanks.
35:22Did you hear that?
35:23Negative.
35:25Negative.
35:25I think we're all...
35:26So it's just you and I were...
35:27Nobody's even watching.
35:29Not even my own crew.
35:30This is the...
35:31We're just...
35:31It's funny.
35:32They dropped us in hell and said, go for it.
35:34This is the thing about talking about this topic, honestly, Mike.
35:38Yeah.
35:38It is so challenging and threatening, even though I don't think we're threatening anybody
35:41or challenging anybody.
35:42No.
35:42In reality, it's just a beautiful conversation about life and experience and...
35:46No, look, we've got clouds now.
35:47There we go.
35:47We've got happy clouds.
35:48Like nighttime clouds.
35:49That's interesting where we're going tonight.
35:51I still got...
35:52Look at behind me, though.
35:53I know.
35:53You got hell behind Robert over here.
35:56What's the...
35:56Like, Robert gets sent to hell, but I'm going to the clouds?
35:59Is that...
36:00No.
36:00Come on.
36:00If you like meatloaf, it's like a bat out of hell, right?
36:02I'm coming at you.
36:03Yeah.
36:03This looks like a nighttime cloud scene, doesn't it?
36:05It does.
36:06That's funny.
36:06Maybe we're going to, like, vampires and zombie themes here.
36:11This is...
36:12This is a...
36:12If I could say it's a threat, not because we're a conscious threat, but to talk about consciousness
36:17in this way.
36:19We've got your clouds.
36:19So, look at that.
36:20I'm floating in space.
36:21This is awesome.
36:22Okay.
36:22We'll do a little Superman stuff.
36:23So, now we've uplifted the conversation to the cloud level.
36:26Yeah.
36:27But it could be cloud computing.
36:28Right?
36:29Maybe you're computing in the cloud.
36:31Yeah.
36:31Well, it comes to mind the fear that is associated with even having a discussion like this.
36:37Yeah.
36:37Oh, my gosh.
36:38That could be considered sacrilegious.
36:40You're threatening somebody's belief system.
36:41But, again, we're in life and, you know, there's no guarantee of safety.
36:45There's no guarantee that you're not offended.
36:48You know, going into talk radio, I learned that.
36:50You have to offend to survive.
36:52Oh, absolutely.
36:53And, by the way, God didn't even stop Hitler.
36:56Okay?
36:56Right.
36:56God didn't stop Stalin.
36:58Yeah.
36:58God didn't stop Mao.
36:59Those are the big questions that caused me to go, what the heck?
37:02Right.
37:02What's really going on here?
37:03Don't tell me, like, God's going to strike you down because you questioned something about,
37:07you know, a Bible verse.
37:08Yeah.
37:09And there may be times where it becomes so intolerably toxic that no life can live there.
37:13And I would say, use those analogies when we talk about the Superfund sites.
37:16What can live there?
37:18You have to evacuate.
37:19And maybe in a godly perspective, it gets so bad, like a Sodom and Gomorrah, they say,
37:23well, there's no hope for this at this point.
37:25Let's start over.
37:26I'm ever hopeful and prayerful that that's not, you know, we're not on an apocalyptic course
37:31or that even if we were, just the evidence that what happened with the four years that
37:35Trump, you know, was not president and all the COVID stuff happened.
37:38Oh, yeah.
37:38What a graceful event in the big scheme of things.
37:41We have charted leaps and bounds and years and light years beyond where we could have been
37:46had that not happened.
37:46You are correct.
37:47I mean, think about it.
37:48Like the things that you and I have been teaching for decades before 2019 or 2020.
37:54Yeah.
37:55It was considered crazy.
37:56And then by 2023, it was like, but of course.
37:59Of course.
38:00Yeah.
38:00You know, like, of course, you can't trust Fauci and the science.
38:05Of course, you can't trust the pharmaceutical industry.
38:06Of course, the vaccines are dangerous.
38:08But it's just like you said, it took COVID to wake people up to that.
38:13So then you could say, I mean, some people could say COVID was part of God's plan to
38:20awaken people.
38:21I mean, I'm not saying that.
38:22I'm just saying, yeah, I've heard people say that.
38:24Sure.
38:24And I don't claim to know that for sure, but I'm grateful that it happened.
38:28Not because I'm celebrating the lives lost or the suffering that is occurring, but it
38:32is the greatest suffering that leads to the greatest transformation of consciousness.
38:35This is true.
38:36That's true in my own life.
38:37So what great suffering yet awaits for higher consciousness?
38:40Perhaps.
38:40Yeah.
38:41And I think that they are, we are given that grace where it comes back again, rest points
38:46in eternity through choice.
38:47You know, it's like, all right, these guys and gals, they've been working at it.
38:50It looks like they need a rest and the consciousness could slide back again.
38:53And then we end up in those places in order to be motivated once again, because when things
38:58get very comfortable, you know, that's when often people say, you know, I don't, I don't
39:01need God.
39:02Right.
39:02We have in the West, in America, most of us grew up with a house over, you know, a roof
39:06over our heads.
39:07We had food.
39:08You know, there, of course, are some homeless people, some by choice.
39:10In fact, that was a funny story.
39:12I wore a shirt last week in San Diego at the autism health conference, took a couple of
39:16Austrian friends to the beach there.
39:17And it said, you stay safe.
39:19I'll stay free.
39:20Now, I love it.
39:21Yeah.
39:21Gentle kind of poke.
39:23Yeah.
39:23And we went into the co-op down there in San Diego and the people there were looking at
39:26me squirrely eyed like, oh man, I don't like that.
39:28And then I went out to the beach with my Austrian friends and the homeless people on
39:32the beach were like, thumbs up because they chose freedom over safety.
39:36And it's a choice.
39:37And we forget that.
39:38And so many of these things, even, you know, we individually make a choice, but we're all
39:41part of this family too.
39:43We're on a journey to some degree.
39:44We're not that no man is an Island yet.
39:46Also, I don't claim responsibility for people making their own choices.
39:50Right.
39:51I will attempt to say, Hey, maybe that choice might not be the best, but I'm not going to
39:54stand in your way and then take on their burden as well.
39:56That's where we talk about the caramelist action versus that, which engages you and
40:00locks you down into a relationship that now you're going to have to pay for one day.
40:04And I, I know you realize this because you've been speaking about it here, but I've come
40:08to find over the years that even though most people talk about wanting to be free, they
40:14choose to remain enslaved.
40:16Yeah.
40:16So they, and, and I found that this, this is really, it comes down to trusting and worshiping
40:22institutions of centralized control.
40:25It could be government, it could be science, could be LGBT climate, cultism.
40:29Again, it could be a twisted church and there are, you know, twisted, some twisted mega
40:33church that really isn't interested in your salvation, but rather your donation.
40:38Right.
40:38And making you so comfortable in what I'd call great discomfort that you're unwilling to
40:43move beyond it.
40:44You become accustomed to that choice per se.
40:47You know, this is why, you know, when I learned some of these things early on before I got married
40:51and had kids, I'm like, you know, I was born into bondage.
40:54Now I wasn't a slave on a plantation to my memory.
40:58Right.
40:58If we talk about previous lifetimes, but in this contemporary setting in America, most people
41:03enjoyed perhaps more freedom than previous generations by far in a lot of ways.
41:07Oh yeah.
41:08At the same time.
41:09And we walked to school when we were kids.
41:11Yeah.
41:11We walked to school.
41:12We stayed out.
41:13We're just all over town.
41:14Yeah.
41:15You know, it was normal.
41:16But in that context too, the deep nuance of existence is that I realized we had been
41:22numbered like cattle in the 20th century, going back to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913,
41:27Social Security Act, all of that.
41:28And that most parents just unknowingly, just automatically assigned at birth in the hospital.
41:34Now with my kids, I'm like, you know what?
41:36I'm not doing that.
41:37They're not getting a social security number.
41:38We don't need a birth certificate, which is like you're being a vessel of the state,
41:42right?
41:42When you birth a ship on the Admiralty.
41:44These are the things I was learning.
41:45It was like crazy.
41:46I'm like, dude, I want to give my kids an opportunity to come to this planet and be
41:50free and let them choose in consciousness if they want to enter into bondage.
41:55And so, you know, you know, my kids, Elijah's now 25, still no social security number,
42:01no birth certificate.
42:01We fought the government, the state department, and we have passports without those numbers
42:05based on religious freedom.
42:07That's extraordinary.
42:08They tried to deny it, and we fought them.
42:10And, you know, based on religious freedom, they had to acquiesce.
42:13And they changed the website to reflect that, but they still haven't changed the printed
42:16form to show that.
42:17Until that happens, we're still battling.
42:20Interesting.
42:20So I said, you know, when you guys and my daughter's 19, I said, when you're of age at
42:2418, you get to choose.
42:25If you want an easier life, it's a lot easier to have that number and interact with everything
42:29economically as such.
42:31But does it feel right?
42:32Et cetera.
42:33Right.
42:33Does it feel right to you?
42:34Right.
42:34Does it feel like my concern for you was that that's enslavement and maybe it's okay for
42:39you?
42:39But this is the hard thing as a parent.
42:40You let go and let them as adults, they're on their own journey too.
42:44Yeah.
42:44But I'm very, you know, if I say proud of my children at this point that they've elected
42:48to stay free, even though it's not the easiest path.
42:51Well, but it's a, it's a very admirable path.
42:53And I'm really glad you brought that up because I've always been frustrated that my social
42:56security number remains static.
42:58I think it should be earning interest.
42:59I think the number should be incrementing.
43:02Sure.
43:02Every once in a while.
43:03You know, it's like new versions of yourself.
43:05It's an unconscionable contract.
43:07People say it's not a contract.
43:08It is.
43:08You know, whether you entered it or not, it's the only contract you can enter in as a minor.
43:13Yeah.
43:13Because you didn't sign it.
43:14Crazy.
43:14If you got it as an adult, you can, I guess you can argue you've entered into it, maybe hopefully
43:18knowingly.
43:19But most people, I think, I say most now, a lot of people are coming to this similar
43:24conclusion.
43:25And what about new moms and dads?
43:29You know, new mom has a baby.
43:30And then the doctor practically kidnaps the child, seizes control, jab this, jab that, you
43:36know, circumcise this, slice that, inject this.
43:39And most moms just sit there and go, must be okay because the doctor's doing it.
43:46It's like, what?
43:47Well, that, that's our, the human state of consciousness often is seeking authority or
43:52authoritarian rule, even though they want to say it's authoritarian, but we have been
43:55bred and programmed over millennia, centuries to believe in authority.
44:00And this is where, you know, the church has fallen down.
44:03Although I acknowledge that in a lot of the, you know, the biblical connection, connectivity
44:08to words, they do say agency and the personal relationship to get your guidance or your own
44:14prophecy in a sense.
44:15So they pay lip service to it, whether people actually pay attention to that or not.
44:19I don't know.
44:20Everybody is a unique soul and they get to decide, but for the most part, whether it be
44:23religion, industry, medicine, name, the endeavor, we're often falling prey to this idea that
44:29we must be subservient to an authority or authoritarian figure.
44:34And I don't know, this is controversial.
44:36I don't even know God wants us to be subservient in that way that we don't engage in the gift
44:42of choice and agency, the freedom to experience things.
44:45I think for the benefit of God in that sense.
44:48And that, of course, I would argue is a loving thing and one that would not be harmful or,
44:52or in any way denigrating to others.
44:54But I mean, it's a high, tall order to ask.
44:56Well, I don't buy what Paul said about being obedient to Rome and all that stuff, by the
45:00way.
45:01Yeah.
45:01And it's misunderstood at the very least.
45:03Yeah.
45:03Yeah.
45:04Absolutely misunderstood.
45:06And, you know, of course, I pissed off a whole nother group of Christians by questioning
45:10Paul.
45:10I'm like, Paul's not Christ, man.
45:12You know.
45:12And also, again, who's interpreting it?
45:15Yeah.
45:15And how many translations have happened that are not adhering to the original, sometimes
45:21Hebrew, sometimes, you know, Greek, Latin, whatever, but.
45:24Aramaic, how far you want to go.
45:26Yeah, exactly.
45:26How far you want to go back.
45:27Sanskrit.
45:27Yeah, we can do that.
45:28Oh, I had the funniest conversation I had, but I want to play, I want to play a new music
45:32video for you.
45:33Okay, cool.
45:35It literally just got finished today, but you're going to love it.
45:38We'll do that in a second.
45:39But the funniest conversation I had was when I was talking about how I believe that the
45:45seven trumpets are describing seven comet impact events.
45:48And I had a Christian say, well, God would never destroy the world to defeat evil.
45:54And I'm like, the flood?
45:57There's some evidence in the past, things like that.
45:59Sodom and Gomorrah?
46:00The plagues?
46:01I mean, have you read?
46:03You know, it's so funny.
46:03And that's what caused me to tweet.
46:06I said, the hardest thing in the world is to convince a Christian of what's written
46:11in the Bible.
46:13Yeah, and that's why it's so bizarre.
46:16For me, I can appreciate discussions of theology and philosophy, and I can dig it.
46:21But because I'm not attached to it, it's when you're attached to it, it becomes very harmful
46:26to yourself.
46:27Because it's like, you don't need to defend God.
46:30That's true.
46:30You know, if you want to defend your belief, that's fine, but I don't perceive us as attacking
46:35beliefs as opposed to just, these are experiences, these are interpretations we've read, you've
46:39read, and it might be different.
46:41We're exploring.
46:42Yeah, we're exploring.
46:43And I've said, if you drill down on any church, synagogue, temple, mosque, enough questions
46:47of each individual there, you're going to find not just subtle differences, radical
46:51differences in beliefs within that one place.
46:53Yes, that's true.
46:54What are you going to do then?
46:55And self-contradictory beliefs.
46:57Sure.
46:58Which is where I go back to say that whatever you believe, it should be internally consistent.
47:03You know?
47:03Yeah.
47:03Like I said, at least the flat earth people, they have developed an internally consistent
47:11story about why the earth, yeah, right.
47:15So, again, I disagree with the conclusion, but I admire the fact that they're willing to
47:22develop a system that kind of, again, is consistent.
47:27But some level of consistency is going to be like that, yes.
47:29All right.
47:30So, I've got a song, actually, in a music video.
47:33Now, what I'm going to do is, we'll play it for the audience on top of me playing it
47:38for you.
47:39Sure.
47:39So, they'll have the actual video.
47:41But this is, you're going to love this.
47:43All right.
47:43I mean, this, you're going to think I wrote this for you.
47:46It's called All Our Dreams Come True.
47:50Okay.
47:50All right.
47:51And this is a song I wrote.
47:53The music video just got finished.
47:54So,