Conservative Shadow Policing Minister Matt Vickers has criticised the Government's trade deal with India, claiming it will disadvantage British workers.Speaking to GB News, Vickers argued that the agreement negotiated by Labour creates an unfair system.FULL STORY HERE.
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00:00We'll talk about that next time around, because we have got Matt Vickers, who is the Shadow Minister for Crime, Policing and Fire, as it turns out.
00:11Good morning to you, Mr Vickers. Can we start by asking you about this trade deal with India?
00:16Do you welcome this free trade agreement? I mean, it's taking advantage of our Brexit freedoms, isn't it? And it's boosting the economy.
00:22So we welcome the opportunity to do more trade with countries across the globe, but what we don't welcome is quite where this deal's got to.
00:33When Labour negotiates, Britain loses. We've seen a two-tier, another two-tier agreement coming out of Kia.
00:40Do you know what? British workers and British companies across the country are being slammed by Labour's job tax.
00:45That increase in national insurance is a huge, huge impact on them.
00:50But the people coming here from India, under this agreement, the companies who are dealing here, they won't be subject to national insurance.
00:56They will not be paying a disproportionate number of them in this country, in contrast to what we've got there.
01:01It is a lose-lose for British taxpayers.
01:05I'm interested in what you're saying, Matt. I'm not disagreeing with that at all.
01:09So why then, why are we taking these workers? Where do we need them?
01:15And are we taking them simply to appease India and say, well, look, and I don't really know how this works,
01:21but we're saying we'll take a lot of your people over, give them jobs, let them settle in Britain if you buy a few crates of whiskey from us.
01:31I'm not really sure what the quid pro quo is.
01:35So the big story here is not necessarily about, well, not about immigration and such,
01:42but it's actually about the fact that people employing British workers in this country will still be paying national insurance.
01:47In fact, they're paying 20% more. They're paying a fortune in tax now, thanks to Labour's jobs tax.
01:52But those transferring Indian workers into this country will be paying less, disincentivising people to come here and employ British workers.
01:59It's completely wrong. It's not what people out there voted for. It's not what people out there want.
02:04Can I stick with India with you for just a moment?
02:09Because we're obviously seeing India and Pakistan escalating overnight, tensions between those two countries.
02:14Are you concerned about how this might impact the UK?
02:17We've got very large Indian and Pakistani populations in this country.
02:21As shadow minister for policing, are you concerned that we could see unrest on the streets here?
02:26I think we're deeply concerned by what happens elsewhere in the globe when it has consequences like that and the dangers coming from people shelling one another.
02:36Deeply concerning developments overnight.
02:38It's right, well, the government's now got to engage with both countries, get them around the table,
02:44open up that dialogue and try and de-escalate this situation before it costs anybody their lives.
02:48So what are you proposing, this deportation bill?
02:53Tell us what's involved in that and what's that about.
02:56So it's game changing. We're saying, as we did in office, that if you come to this country illegally, you should be detained and you should be removed.
03:06We're saying that anybody who comes to this country should be subject to mandatory age verification,
03:10i.e. we should use whatever tech and science we've got to check what age these people are.
03:15But more than that, we're saying that if you commit a crime in this country, at the moment, if you commit a crime in this country,
03:20you've got to be sentenced to more than a year before you'll be deported.
03:23We're saying if you commit a crime on our turf, you should be sent back to wherever you came from.
03:28And the big problem with that has been the courts and the Human Rights Act.
03:31We're saying we should disapply the Human Rights Act when it comes to cases of deportation, when it comes to cases of immigration.
03:38The Human Rights Act shouldn't count.
03:40It should be about the law that's created in that place and it being served in the courts properly.
03:44I did not say that. I haven't. Have you heard her say that?
03:47Yeah, why have you fallen short of saying, oh, leave the ECHR? Why have you not said that? You've fallen short of that.
03:54So in terms of application, in terms of if you look at the cases that get tied up, the chicken, well, chicken nugget gate,
04:00we saw the carry-on of a guy who should have been deported but made the case that his kids don't like foreign chicken nuggets
04:05and therefore should get to stay. We've got to see the case of a paedophile who said if he was returned to his country,
04:10he'd face hostility. These were Human Rights Act cases.
04:13These were cases that went in our domestic courts and were rejected on the grounds of human rights.
04:18We're saying we will disapply that. This is going to remove that logjam.
04:22It's going to allow us to deport those foreign criminals.
04:24It's going to allow us to get our immigration system fixed and fit for purpose.
04:28But, Matt, I don't really understand how you can disapply.
04:32You know, you just say we're applying it here. We're not applying it next week.
04:36We're applying it the week after that.
04:39You're either in the ECHR or you're not in it.
04:45The Human Rights Act is Britain's part in that.
04:48But actually, the law should be decided by the guys in there.
04:51The guys that the British public watching you this morning are electing people into Parliament to make the law.
04:57That should be the law. It should be the law that British people want.
04:59It should be the law made by the people they sent to Parliament, not by somebody else hidden away, judges deciding what the law should and shouldn't be.
05:06We're saying when it comes to immigration, when it comes to deportation, the law as it stands, as it's created by Parliament, should be upheld, regardless of the Human Rights Act.
05:14If someone is up for deportation and they evoke the ECHR, Article 8, right to a family life, then you will struggle.
05:22And you know this. We've seen it before, haven't we?
05:24You will struggle, ultimately fail, to get them on a plane to deport them out of this country.
05:29You can't do any of that unless you elect the ECHR.
05:34We can. The Human Rights Act, what gives it effect in this country.
05:37It's our domestic courts that are the problem in this situation.
05:40It is them who are having some of these really, really creative interpretations of the law and binding the two.
05:47We're saying that isn't going to be the case anymore.
05:50We will not allow that.
05:51We will disapply the Human Rights Act.
05:53We'll make judges serve the law as it's meant to be served when it comes to immigration and deportation.
05:58That's entirely the right thing to do.
06:00Matt, fascinating talking to you.
06:01Interim judgments from Strasbourg would be disapplied.
06:03It's the right way for them.
06:05Yeah, OK.
06:05Good morning.
06:06Good morning.
06:07Actually, it's not a good morning.
06:08That's the whole thing you're listening and looking at you today and I'm thinking it looks like I thought it was a nice day out.
06:14And then he's dressed like Nanook of the North.
06:16Winter's back.
06:16Winter's back.
06:17Today he's got the scarf.
06:18It's a bit chilly.
06:19It's chilly.
06:20Thank you, Matt.
06:21Appreciate it.
06:21Thanks, Matt.
06:23There we go.
06:23We had full spring and now we're in fourth winter.