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00:00Right, so you're concerned that they're not sufficiently concerned, but when it comes to what you think might happen next, knowing Pakistan as you do because you've covered it for a number of years, I mean, are you worried personally that the conditions are ripe for a serious confrontation and possibly a devastating one?
00:20I'm very worried. The statement earlier today, and these events are happening as we speak, so something could have happened while we're on the air here, but the statement by the Pakistani prime minister right after the Indian counterattack that India will pay for this is clear signal that Pakistan is going to escalate.
00:40And the history of both sides have been when they say they're going to escalate, they do escalate. They won't step back from the escalation. Again, in the past, when including back in the early 2000s, when nuclear war was a real possibility, it was the U.S. and China working together that defused that, and it was a very, very close thing.