The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 9
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00:00All my Polaroids and I'm gonna pack all my outfits.
00:02♪ I'm not the one for this ♪
00:06Jesse!
00:07I'm in the closet.
00:09In the closet?
00:09Come back to my second bedroom.
00:11Hi, how are you?
00:13I brought you some cookies.
00:15Oh my gosh, did you make these?
00:16Yes!
00:17Wait, they're so cute!
00:18I know you have a sweet tooth.
00:19Literally, I'll eat all of these today.
00:21You know me.
00:22Going through a bunch of shit.
00:23I mean, I figure Jordan's fat butt
00:26will be eating him too.
00:27That was so true, we're gonna finish these by today, so.
00:30I know.
00:31So New Orleans is like green and purple.
00:33So for one of the nights, I'm gonna do like this.
00:34What?
00:35Isn't that cute?
00:36Did you buy these for this?
00:37Oh, I bought everything, yeah.
00:38Nuh-uh.
00:39A while ago, we decided that we wanted
00:41to go on another girl's trip.
00:42So I booked us a house and everything's set in stone.
00:46But after scenes in Sinner,
00:47it's definitely awkward timing.
00:49She doesn't think you're good at hair
00:51and she told me not to go to you for hair
00:52and that's why I went to a different salon.
00:54Talk to me, cause this is about me.
00:55Look me in the eyes, you narcissist.
00:56Look at me.
00:57Can we talk about the way
00:58that you treat your boyfriend?
01:00I'm gonna protect your ever in this situation.
01:05Let's take it there, Taylor.
01:06There's still tension with a few of the girls
01:08but the trip is paid for, so we are going.
01:10Hopefully we don't regret this.
01:12Speaking of baked goods,
01:14because you're so nice to bring me this,
01:16I got an update and I actually have to get surgery.
01:18Oh my gosh, so you're getting the whole thing out?
01:20I'm gonna do half.
01:21And then the sucky thing is, as they said,
01:23they can't tell me if it's cancer or not
01:25till after the surgery.
01:26Like they won't know till they take it out.
01:28But if I don't get it removed and it is cancer,
01:31it could spread to my lymph nodes.
01:32How do you feel about it all?
01:34I'm like trying to stay positive
01:36cause I do think that if you're sick,
01:38if you dwell on it and have a bad attitude,
01:39it can make you worse.
01:40Like that's just my belief.
01:42Once the show came out,
01:43I had a few nurses actually reach out to me on social media.
01:46They all told me that I looked like I had
01:48an enlarged thyroid and I should get it checked.
01:51It prompted me to make an appointment.
01:52So I went to a thyroid specialist
01:54and they did an ultrasound
01:56and found that I had six nodules on this side,
01:59one on this side that was enlarged.
02:00Basically, we came to the conclusion
02:02that I should get a partial thyroid removal.
02:04Having this health issue unfold,
02:06it does put things into perspective.
02:08I think we need to focus on the bigger picture.
02:10So crazy that I could just be living with it
02:12and not know though.
02:13So wild.
02:14Well, you do it well if you are.
02:16Cause gosh damn, I don't think I would be like that.
02:17I know, everyone else would be like.
02:19I'm done, I quit.
02:20No, I would be like laying in bed all day.
02:21I'm like, it's over.
02:22Like everyone bring me food and rub my feet.
02:25And you're like, I'm going to Dallas.
02:26I'm going to LA.
02:26No, legit.
02:27Now New Orleans.
02:28Are you excited for the trip?
02:30I am excited.
02:31I feel like I'm curious.
02:33How are things gonna go?
02:34I just feel like the trip has more opportunities
02:37to be explosive than not.
02:38I think I'm mostly worried about Demi and Taylor.
02:40Demi and Taylor for sure.
02:42And then I'm also just worried
02:43about like Demi and the hair stuff.
02:44I'm kind of like,
02:45are you gonna just say really terrible things about me
02:47and then justify it?
02:49So yeah, I don't know.
02:49I think I'll have to talk to Demi about it at some point.
02:50That's so messy.
02:52I'm sorry, that's like hard.
02:54Friendships, especially when it's like your best friend,
02:56it makes it so hard because it's like,
02:57you don't wanna have to question them.
02:58No, that should be the person you go to for things
03:00and like to vent.
03:01That would have been hard for me
03:02if like Mikayla said that about me.
03:03I've been like, okay, bye.
03:06In mom talk, from my perspective,
03:08it's all about supporting women
03:09and being there for each other.
03:11But right now it feels petty and honestly kind of toxic.
03:14It just feels like the drama
03:16is becoming the cancer in the group.
03:17So we're gonna have to have deeper conversations
03:19to work out those issues.
03:21Yeah, wait, how would you handle this?
03:23Because you're really good at seeing both sides.
03:25And I know that can be frustrating for us,
03:27but I need to know,
03:28how would you do it if Mikayla was doing this to you?
03:30Me and Mikayla did talk about this situation
03:32and she was like, if you did that to me,
03:33I would've been like, you're not my friend anymore.
03:35♪ Come ye saints and come ye sinners ♪
03:42♪ Alleluia ♪
03:46♪ Listen up, I'm the one you've been dreaming of ♪
03:51♪ I got everything you could ever want ♪
03:55♪ Try me and you'll see, I'll bring you to your knees ♪
03:59♪ Baby, you're gonna believe ♪
04:01♪ Baby, that's not the end of the temptation ♪
04:05♪ Baby, that's not the end of the temptation ♪
04:09♪ Temptation ♪
04:14♪ I can see it in my mind ♪
04:18♪ I can see it in my mind ♪
04:29Woo, Parva, let's go!
04:34Do we ever have any other method of transportation?
04:35No, we don't.
04:36We just, we have to ride on a pole to get to our place
04:39or else it didn't happen.
04:41Guys, where's the pole?
04:42I know a pole.
04:44I'll be at the pole, someone dance on me.
04:48Can I like confess something to you guys?
04:50Yes.
04:51After the Saints and Sinners event,
04:53I did a sage cleanse.
04:54No!
04:55I was down for the sage cleanse.
04:56I wanted to.
04:57I can't blame you.
04:58I'm done.
04:59Get these girls out of here.
05:01Get back, get back in.
05:03Goodbye.
05:04She's like, this whole group needs a sage age, seriously.
05:08I really want to enjoy this trip,
05:09but there is some unspoken tension between Demi and I.
05:12We have not talked about what came out,
05:14about what she said about Jay-Z styles.
05:16So it's looming in the back of my mind
05:17that I need to pull her aside and hash it out
05:20because I'm really hurt by it.
05:21Well, is it weird that the group's
05:23like down to seven right now?
05:25I know, small.
05:26Kayla and I were together last night
05:28and Jordan got a call from Dakota and he was like,
05:31oh, he told me Taylor's not going on your trip.
05:33Like that's how we found out she wasn't coming.
05:35And I was like, oh.
05:36Yeah, I think she's just like not mentally able to do this,
05:39which makes sense, but.
05:40Taylor's not here and so that feels a lot better to me.
05:43I think she's kind of playing the avoidant game a little bit
05:47and for good reason, I think she should be scared of me.
05:51But I'm hopeful that Mom Talk will be able to kind of
05:53repair some of the friendships within this group
05:56with the toxicity not present.
05:59I will say the energy without having Taylor here is nice.
06:02Like not feeling like I'm walking on eggshells.
06:05That is nice for you, for sure.
06:08I think it definitely sucks that Taylor is not coming
06:10on this girl's trip.
06:10And now I feel bad because I told Taylor
06:13that I'm gonna have her back at St. Ansoners and I didn't.
06:16I definitely think that Demi is kind of at fault
06:18for the group's divide right now.
06:19Taylor did wrong her in some situations,
06:21but so did Demi to bring a child to it.
06:24You just don't cross those lines.
06:26But yeah, there's definitely some weird vibes right now.
06:29Do you guys not feel that way?
06:31Do you not feel like that eggshell feeling around her?
06:33No.
06:34No, honestly, I feel worse
06:35because I thought that the blow up would be you guys
06:37and now that she's not here, I'm like, what's going on?
06:39Yeah, who is it?
06:43Mikaela, it's Spooky.
06:45All right, let's go.
06:46You guys, it's cute.
06:48Wait, I love it.
06:50The house is so charming and cute.
06:52Like we're just really immersing ourself
06:54with the culture of New Orleans.
06:56Oh, fancy.
06:58I feel like New Orleans, New Orleans, New Orleans.
07:02What have I been saying?
07:04Princess Tiana says New Orleans.
07:06This is your next info for your next hair extension line.
07:10Yep, these are my West.
07:10This house is definitely very New Orleans
07:12and I wanted this experience
07:13to feel very genuine and authentic.
07:15So I even hired a private chef
07:16to make us a very authentic Louisiana meal.
07:19So we're gonna really embrace the culture
07:21the very first night.
07:22Oh my gosh, hello, nice to meet you, I'm Jessie.
07:25Oh, Sam, Mikaela, rub elbows.
07:27It smells amazing, look at this.
07:30Oh my gosh.
07:32Oh my God, it's beautiful.
07:35Wait, I'm obsessed.
07:36Look at the mocktails.
07:38Wow.
07:39So on this side, we have fried chicken,
07:42grilled chicken, blackened salmon,
07:45garlic butter noodles, gumbo,
07:47no sauce,
07:49egg rolls,
07:50crab cakes,
07:51shrimp and lobster mac and cheese,
07:53ricotta rice,
07:54zucchini and squash.
07:56Hey, I'm so excited, this is so fun.
07:58Wendy, you have a drink.
08:00No, but like I want to, but I'm breastfeeding.
08:03All right, let's go get dressed really quick,
08:04get our rooms and then we'll come back down.
08:08Hello, the fog.
08:11This is so freaking cute.
08:12I know.
08:13I want us to all be able to enjoy and have fun together,
08:16but I'm also stressed out
08:17because I'm still hiding my pregnancy
08:19and I'm waiting for the right time to tell the girls,
08:21especially Demi because I know
08:22that she's been going through infertility for a while now.
08:25It is so like emotionally draining.
08:28Like it's,
08:30because you can't figure out like what's going on.
08:34It's more like how bad I want that
08:36with someone that I'm like in love with.
08:42Demi is so fired up about Taylor right now
08:44that just doesn't feel like this is the right time.
08:46I've had literally one bite and I'm like,
08:48wait, this is the best food I've ever had.
08:49Yeah, I took one bite of that shrimp
08:50and I was like, ooh, yum.
08:53Did everyone get the video of Jen?
08:54What?
08:56She sent in a group chat.
08:57I don't know if I'm in that.
08:58Oh, she did.
08:59Whoa, what?
09:01I have not spoken with Jen
09:02since our conversation where she stormed out
09:05and I know she's really spiteful
09:07towards both me and Demi right now.
09:09So I'm very curious to see what she has to say.
09:12To all of us?
09:13Yes.
09:21Did everyone get the video of Jen?
09:23What?
09:24Okay, hold on, hold on.
09:25Let me, wait, let me play it for you guys.
09:27Okay, everyone be quiet.
09:28Guys, excuse what I look like.
09:30I just came out of therapy.
09:31As you guys probably know, I'm pregnant
09:33and the first trimester is absolute hell.
09:38I've been in some of the darkest places of my life
09:43and I'm focusing on not only on my physical health
09:48but my mental health.
09:49And in order to protect this baby,
09:52I feel like it's important that I stay at home
09:55and get some rest.
09:57I've been hurting and because of that,
10:01I think I've maybe hurt some of you
10:03and I'm really sorry.
10:06Oh my gosh, I'm sorry.
10:09Anyways, love you guys.
10:11Hope to talk to you soon.
10:18All right, so what does everyone think about that?
10:20For me, as someone that's dealt
10:22with mental health issues, I feel like it's hard
10:23because I feel like that trumps everything,
10:25in my opinion, you know?
10:27I know what she's done and it's not discrediting
10:29what she's done to people in this room
10:30because it's not okay.
10:32But I think at the end of the day,
10:34at least for me, I'm gonna prioritize
10:35that she's in that dark of a place
10:38and kind of like to have that take precedence,
10:41in my opinion.
10:42Give her some grace.
10:43Yeah.
10:45She's mentioned to me a handful of times
10:48where she's like, I feel really bad
10:50about the way that I treated Jessie
10:51and I wanna apologize formally.
10:54I'm open to talking to her, for sure.
10:56I definitely want closure.
10:57Even if she was just like, I was going through
10:59a shitty time and I did shitty things,
11:01that's good enough for me.
11:02Just tell me why and let's just hope
11:03it doesn't happen again.
11:04Totally.
11:05No, and I think it's great that you're
11:06in that position to give her enough grace
11:08because I know it was a pretty bad blowout.
11:11That shows a lot about your character.
11:13Thanks.
11:15Hearing all of the things that she said
11:16made me realize that she's been struggling
11:19more than I thought.
11:20My heart does go out to her.
11:21I'm glad to hear that she's getting help
11:23and I think I learned from our fight
11:25that I never want that to happen again.
11:27I wish I would have handled that better.
11:28It goes against everything we stand for in mom talk.
11:31We want to be honest with each other
11:32and have those hard conversations,
11:34but we should never be yelling at each other
11:36and I'm disappointed that I did that.
11:37So when she's ready, I will totally have
11:40like a calm conversation with her
11:42and I really do hope that she's getting
11:43the help she needs so that she can be herself again.
11:46I have a hard time with someone who's sitting there
11:48being like, I've been working on myself,
11:50I've been coming so far.
11:51Things change though, like in a week and a half.
11:54They can.
11:55I don't know that I totally buy it.
11:59First of all, crying videos will never not be weird to me.
12:04I think it's so strange to like film yourself crying
12:07and I think it's like a little bit manipulative
12:10and a little bit cowardly still.
12:12Like I understand you're going through a hard time.
12:14I know you're mentally struggling,
12:16but I think also follow it up with a text
12:19to the people you have real issues with
12:21and I just don't think Jen's capable to be honest.
12:25It does make me hesitant to tell her anything though
12:29because it's a pattern of like digging up the past.
12:31I feel like at this rate,
12:32I'm hesitant to tell anyone in this group anything.
12:34Really?
12:34I'm being completely honest.
12:35I don't know just because I'm seeing,
12:36you know, it's like Taylor situation and you guys,
12:39anything you say will be taken into future argument.
12:41Yeah.
12:42And I feel like that's what I've noticed
12:43like in certain arguments that I've seen.
12:45Like, ew, that makes me like not want to say
12:47or ever be vulnerable.
12:48Let's also not demonize the whole group
12:50because there are a lot of like valuable friendships
12:52in the group that like people genuinely do care.
12:55I think it's a little harsh of Demi
12:57when we don't know the severity
12:59of what Jen's going through her mental health right now.
13:02And so I'm just a little bit more hesitant
13:04when it comes to trusting Demi.
13:06Like there's people within the group
13:07that I think you genuinely can trust and-
13:09No, and I get that,
13:10but like because I'm seeing it happening so frequently,
13:12I'm like, ooh, like it like scares me.
13:14So.
13:15So.
13:16So.
13:17So.
13:18So.
13:19So.
13:19So.
13:20So.
13:21So.
13:22So.
13:23So.
13:24So.
13:24So.
13:25So.
13:26So.
13:28I'm so excited.
13:29I'm so excited.
13:35New Orleans is known for its nightlife.
13:37So we cannot come here and not go out on the town.
13:40So I arranged for us to go to a burlesque show.
13:42I did learn my lesson from Chippendales though.
13:44I'm not gonna spring anything on them.
13:46I'm gonna warn the girls what we're doing.
13:48But I think this is gonna be a really fun way
13:49to experience the culture.
13:54Hello my Discord creatures.
13:57The only burlesque I've seen is the Broadway Moulin Rouge,
14:01and it was so much fun.
14:03The tassels, they had the cute outfits,
14:05so I'm just excited to have a fun time.
14:08-♪♪♪
14:11Bonjour.
14:12-♪♪♪
14:15This is definitely not what I thought the show was gonna be.
14:19Um...
14:21I'm a little scared.
14:22I am gonna have PTSD from this night.
14:26Yeah, this is not what I was thinking a burlesque show was,
14:30if I'm being honest.
14:31I did not think I was about to see the cooch,
14:34the wooch, the titty, all of it.
14:38-♪♪♪
14:41-♪♪♪
14:45Oh, a joint.
14:47-♪♪♪
14:50Joint at the cooter.
14:53-♪♪♪
14:58Laila, she pulled that out of her vagina.
15:00What are you doing?
15:02-♪♪♪
15:05Cut it from the show.
15:06I regret everything.
15:08-♪♪♪
15:14Hands up.
15:15Hands up.
15:16Yeah.
15:17Laila, open your mouth.
15:18Laila's demeanful, because she's like,
15:20Laila, and I was like, oh, yeah, like,
15:22I forgot it came out of her vagina.
15:25Honestly, I would have judged you more if you didn't,
15:27so you're welcome.
15:29There could have been bodily fluids.
15:31Oh, God.
15:33She could have had a yeast infection.
15:35Aah!
15:38-♪♪♪
15:41-♪♪♪
15:45-♪♪♪
15:50-♪♪♪
15:53Hello.
15:54Hey, guys.
15:55How's it going?
15:56What are you guys doing, a puzzle?
15:58Yeah, do you want to help?
15:59Oh, this looks miserable.
16:02Why?
16:03I don't do these kind.
16:04I do, like, puzzles all the time with my kids.
16:06You're a five-piece puzzle?
16:07Yeah, they're like ten pieces.
16:10After that whole situation at Saints and Center,
16:13I am not in a good head spot.
16:15Demi brought up, like, the low point of my life.
16:18To bring that up was insane.
16:21It's very triggering.
16:22I know you're hurt at me right now,
16:23and you're coming at me,
16:24but you're gonna hurt other people in the process.
16:27Um, so you know the Saints and Center's party?
16:31Did I tell you about that or no?
16:32No.
16:33So I already knew that Demi was, like,
16:34ready to, like, come at me
16:35because she felt strongly about the situation,
16:38and obviously we were going back and forth.
16:40What situation?
16:41My post.
16:42Oh, okay.
16:43Like, did she make one?
16:44Yes. Yes, I remember.
16:46She's saying Dakota and I are in a toxic cycle,
16:49and so it's like, if you want to go there,
16:52just know that you could potentially ruin someone else
16:54other than who you're trying to ruin.
16:56Like, shut up.
16:58She's, like, a bully.
16:59She is literally a bully.
17:00A bully.
17:01Yeah.
17:02I'd go to war.
17:03Like, there's a, if you poke at me,
17:04it's straight to war.
17:06There's no petty.
17:07There's nothing.
17:08It's just straight to war.
17:11She's a CW.
17:15CW?
17:16Yeah, CW.
17:17No.
17:18What are you going to say?
17:20What is the CW?
17:21What are you saying?
17:22She doesn't know how to spell.
17:25This is such, like, a personal thing that I've gone through.
17:29It went freaking on the news everywhere,
17:32and it's just, like, I'm doing all the work that I can.
17:35I instantly, I mean, he's been out of my house
17:37for, like, almost five, like, months now.
17:40We've been going to major therapy, trauma therapy.
17:43I'm, like, doing everything that we can to become better
17:45in protection of, like, our families.
17:47Do you think that any of the other girls, like,
17:49have your back?
17:52I mean, like, what's going on with Macy?
17:54I mean...
17:55I don't know.
17:56I don't know.
17:57And Mikayla and Layla.
17:58Layla kind of just goes with the wind, huh?
18:00Mm-hmm.
18:01She's just young.
18:02Yeah, and Miranda really doesn't say much,
18:04so I'm, like, I don't know.
18:05Yeah.
18:06I'm surprised Miranda hasn't, like, stuck up for you more.
18:09Because she doesn't have a backbone.
18:11Yeah, that's sad.
18:12So they're all going on their trip, and then...
18:16Yeah.
18:17I don't want to be around any of it.
18:18Like, my mental health, I just,
18:19I think it's better to stay here,
18:21keep going to therapy, be with my kids.
18:23Like, I'd rather do that.
18:25I'm tired of everybody.
18:27Damn it.
18:28If anything, you've been a great friend to all of them.
18:32And I don't know how they can't see that.
18:34You created Mom Talk.
18:35I don't care what anybody says, whatever,
18:37like, you are the person that started it.
18:40You're the one that welcomed all these children.
18:42I know it's nice of you, but it, like, pisses them off.
18:45They're going to resent me if they keep hearing that.
18:48I love Mom Talk.
18:49But right now, I do feel like I don't know who I trust.
18:52I don't know what is said behind my back.
18:54I don't know where I stand with them.
18:56I just have felt alone.
18:58If we learned anything, just trust your gut, okay?
19:03Mine was literally the same.
19:05Leave your relationship.
19:07Something is not right.
19:09Every single day, I knew specifically where it was wrong,
19:13and I was, like, didn't listen.
19:17But, I mean, you did have your mom, your dad,
19:20your sister, your friends all saying,
19:22something's off, something's off.
19:24Why are you with Dakota and asking you?
19:26And you always just...
19:27No, because Mom and Dad ended up really liking him.
19:29They're like, you should work things out.
19:30Like, don't give up easily.
19:32That's after ever, though.
19:34I like Dakota.
19:35I'm not saying anything bad.
19:37Yeah, I mean, I like Dakota, too.
19:39But do I like you guys together?
19:41No, I don't.
19:43Yeah, it's really sad.
19:45Do you pray?
19:46Mm-hmm.
19:47All the time?
19:48Lately, I've been like, please help me through this
19:50because this is really hard.
19:52I think that that's just how life is
19:55because you're going to keep going down the same cycle
19:57until you say, I'm going to change.
19:59I need to change something.
20:01You need to change.
20:02You need to change it.
20:03Only you can change it.
20:05I can tell you a million trillion times,
20:08but it's like only Taylor can change it.
20:11♪♪♪
20:20I'm seriously so tired.
20:22I'm going to go to bed.
20:23Night!
20:24To the living room we shall go.
20:26Hello!
20:27This is the hair salon.
20:28Hello!
20:29Welcome to Jay's.
20:30This is such a cute situation.
20:32Act like we're friends, everybody.
20:34We like each other.
20:35Hey, Miranda.
20:36You want your lymphatic massage?
20:40Tonight was the most humiliating thing in my life,
20:42but with all the drama between the girls right now,
20:44there's a lot that we need to talk about.
20:46At least I'm a little bit high right now
20:48to make the pain a little bit less excruciating.
20:51Actually, to me, there's been something
20:53that I've been wanting to ask you about.
20:55Do you see yourself ever being friends with Taylor again?
20:59♪♪♪♪
21:04I just don't see her being able to take full accountability,
21:08and I don't think that she has, like, the emotional maturity
21:13to have, like, a deep, meaningful friendship.
21:20My answer is no.
21:22What's your status with Whitney?
21:24More so just repairing, I think.
21:28We're all kind of confused
21:29about Demi's relationship with Whitney.
21:31Like, there's been so many times
21:32where Demi came to me being like,
21:33you need to just give up on Whitney.
21:35Like, be done with her.
21:36And now I know that they have been getting closer.
21:39It's so frustrating to, like, have the narratives be spun,
21:42then look how it continues to happen.
21:44Like, I have to walk on eggshells around you.
21:46Yep.
21:47And Whitney definitely got defensive for Demi.
21:49Okay, should we just have the resolution
21:51of the Petty IG post and move on from it?
21:55No, truly. That was weird.
21:57Right now with her, I'm appreciating the effort.
22:00Like, I was talking to her the other day
22:02about just the whole Taylor situation,
22:03and I think we've, like, been able to, like, talk about it
22:05because we feel very similarly, and it's been nice
22:07because I'm like, okay, I kind of felt a little bit alone
22:10in how intense I was feeling about everything,
22:12and she was like, no, I totally see what you're seeing.
22:14Like, Taylor doesn't know how to be a friend.
22:16I've tried to go to Taylor and express things,
22:18and it's shit on.
22:19Well, do you feel like you're being chummy with her
22:21because she's going against Taylor
22:22and it's almost like an ally in that situation?
22:24I'm not commiserating over something
22:26just because it's Taylor.
22:27It's like we both feel this mutually this way
22:29because I think that we all should to a degree.
22:32I'm extremely frustrated to have to even have
22:34this conversation right now.
22:36Taylor is the problem.
22:38How can you not see that?
22:39How do you feel?
22:40I feel like a lot of people are intimidated by her.
22:42Do you guys ever think about, like,
22:43where Taylor would be and what she'd be like right now
22:45if she had never met Dakota?
22:46I think she thinks about it all the time.
22:48I can't imagine.
22:49That's probably why, like, she feels so erratic all the time.
22:51I hope that, like, both of them going...
22:53Hasn't she always been that way, though?
22:56And, like, toxic?
22:58I feel like she has the tendency more often
23:00ever since the whole swinging thing.
23:02Like, I feel like Taylor was a lot more mellow, for sure.
23:05Well, I can't imagine if she would have not dated him,
23:07didn't date anyone for a year and just healed
23:10from the swinging stuff, the divorce.
23:12I feel like it would be a completely different situation.
23:15I think that she chases chaos.
23:21I feel like Demi is playing a game of who can
23:23stab the knife in deeper and twist it harder.
23:26I just feel like she's losing perspective
23:28of what really matters with mom talk.
23:30Well, I think I'm gonna go to bed.
23:32Wait, I need to hold my water.
23:33Love you guys.
23:34Okay, good night.
23:35Thanks for my massage.
23:36Wait!
23:40You are kidding me.
23:41No, my heart's in my ass.
23:54What's on the menu?
23:56What a wild night.
23:58Rise and shine.
23:59There you are.
24:00She just had phone sex, and now she's ready for breakfast.
24:03I'm starving.
24:05I have a surprise.
24:07Oh, no, what is it?
24:09We're gonna play a little game for breakfast.
24:11Oh, no.
24:12Ooh!
24:13What?
24:14Is that a pregnancy test?
24:15We're gonna play pregnancy roulette.
24:17Shut up.
24:18Shut up.
24:20You're everywhere.
24:21You're everywhere.
24:22Go drink some water.
24:24This makes me think that someone's pregnant.
24:26I instantly have anxiety,
24:28because I was not planning on telling the girls yet,
24:32or at least in this way.
24:33I have a whole plan on what I want to do
24:35to tell the girls I'm pregnant,
24:36but this is definitely not it.
24:38This should be fun.
24:39Is someone pregnant?
24:40We don't know.
24:41You're lying.
24:42I love this game on TikTok.
24:43The reason why we're doing this
24:44is because I'm late on my period.
24:45No!
24:46So we're gonna do this.
24:48This is a cruel prank,
24:49because what if someone is,
24:50and then it's not me?
24:51This isn't traumatic at all.
24:53I don't cry every single time I take a test
24:55and get a negative.
24:56Brett and I have been trying to get pregnant
24:58for about four years now,
24:59and so I feel like I'm gonna throw up.
25:02It's, like, evoking all of these emotions in me
25:05and triggering me to my core.
25:06My least favorite thing to do is take a pregnancy test.
25:10I'm gonna get a bowl.
25:11Everyone's gonna go take their test.
25:13And then you're gonna put it in the bowl,
25:15and we're gonna all pick it out and see.
25:17And it's gonna be funny.
25:19All right, I'll take one that's ready.
25:21You're pregnant one month postpartum.
25:24I better not be, that's for sure.
25:27Irish twins.
25:28I mean, there's gotta be a positive.
25:31One of us is bound to be pregnant in this group
25:33at all times.
25:35It's not me.
25:36It's definitely not me.
25:38It better not be me.
25:42Wait, this is nerve-wracking.
25:43I know, I'm a little anxious now.
25:45Like, are we pregnant?
25:47Okay, here we go, you ready?
25:48I'm nervous.
25:50That one's safe.
25:51Wait.
25:53No, that's negative.
25:54Oh.
25:55Negative.
25:56Okay, down there.
25:57I'm gonna get the digital negative.
25:59What?
26:00Yeah.
26:01No.
26:02I was like, oh, shit, I'm pregnant.
26:05I'm so nervous.
26:06I'm like...
26:07No.
26:08You're kidding!
26:09I literally got one!
26:13You guys!
26:15I knew it!
26:16Oh, my God!
26:17That was the scariest part.
26:19I'm like...
26:20What?
26:21Stop looking at me!
26:22I don't know!
26:23I didn't look!
26:24Wait, hold on, I want to take a picture.
26:26I'm screaming.
26:29Who's fucking pregnant?
26:30I'm gonna cry.
26:31Who is it?
26:32Holy shit.
26:33That is a dark-ass frickin' line.
26:35Whoever hears pregnant is, like, pregnant pregnant.
26:38I'm feeling Miranda's very soft.
26:40I am too!
26:41Look at why she's laughing and putting her face down.
26:45Everyone's shocked.
26:46I mean, I'm not shocked.
26:47I'm like, oh, my gosh, what?
26:48It's a positive?
26:49But, like, it's because I genuinely feel so panicked.
26:52That's, like, really dark.
26:54That's wrong!
26:55This is criminal.
26:56Now we don't know who.
26:57Wait, I just want to get picked.
26:59Oh, my God.
27:00This is criminal.
27:01Wait, I have to get ready.
27:02I'm, like, nervous.
27:03Negative.
27:04Okay.
27:05Holy shit.
27:06Oh, my God.
27:07My heart's racing.
27:08Okay, negative's on the track.
27:10That's so positive.
27:11It's insane.
27:12Just one of us.
27:14Who is it?
27:15Wait.
27:16Oh, no, there's four people.
27:19I genuinely am so panicked.
27:21No!
27:22You're kidding!
27:23No.
27:24Shut up.
27:25You're lying!
27:26You're lying!
27:27You're lying!
27:30No!
27:31There's a three!
27:32No!
27:33You're lying!
27:34You're lying!
27:35Wait, I'm going to start crying.
27:37Wait, I'm going to start crying.
27:39Guys!
27:40This is actually really sad for her.
27:42I know, right?
27:43It's not.
27:44Oh, yeah.
27:47Oh, my God.
27:48It's amazing.
27:49We don't believe you.
27:50Who's gonna, who's gonna, who's gonna save me now?
28:13Oh, my God.
28:18I'm sorry.
28:19Is this triggering?
28:20Is this really, just really triggering to me?
28:23I'm sorry.
28:29Okay, sorry.
28:30Are you good?
28:31It's okay.
28:32I can't even explain how deeply sad I'm feeling in this moment.
28:38Initial reaction is like, holy shit, I'm pregnant.
28:41And then I'm like, wait, no.
28:42There's no way this is, that you're pregnant.
28:44Like, there's no way all you get is negative tests.
28:47Two people are pregnant?
28:49I guess so.
28:50Is that real?
28:53Positive.
28:55Wait, you're gonna make me cry.
28:57Oh, my gosh.
28:58Wait.
29:01Who is it?
29:04If someone actually knows they're pregnant or two people, like, this isn't fair to her.
29:07Like, we have to, this isn't right.
29:10Yeah, yeah.
29:11There's not, that's not okay.
29:13I genuinely don't know what to do.
29:15I feel horrible for her.
29:16But also, like, this was not how I was picturing telling everyone I was pregnant.
29:20Because now it almost feels like a bad thing to be pregnant in this situation.
29:24Because some of the other girls were like, if it's you who's pregnant, just say something.
29:27I was like, well, now I don't want to say anything.
29:29Now I almost feel ashamed that I'm pregnant.
29:32Just feels like such an awkward, weird situation.
29:35And this is the exact opposite of how I wanted everything to go.
29:40Oh, my gosh.
29:45Oh, my gosh.
29:48Well, let's get ready, I guess.
29:49There's not much else we can do.
29:56I'm not.
29:59Who is it?
30:05I want to cry.
30:06No, don't cry.
30:08You can't control that.
30:09What happened?
30:11I know it's hard too because it's like...
30:15Now I feel like you can't be excited.
30:17I know.
30:18I know.
30:19I feel so shitty.
30:20This is not how I saw myself announcing my pregnancy to all the girls.
30:23But it's true.
30:24I'm pregnant.
30:28What's the tea?
30:30You know I love the tea.
30:31Give me the tea.
30:34No.
30:36Oh, my gosh.
30:37I'm so excited.
30:38Congrats.
30:40Jacob.
30:41Congratulations.
30:42Oh, my gosh.
30:44Another member added to mom talk.
30:46No one else is claiming the second pregnancy test.
30:48So I'm like, well, I'm definitely not going to speak up.
30:50Especially now that Demi's like sobbing and everyone's consoling her.
30:53This is also my moment that I don't want to be taken away from me.
30:56And I also want to be sensitive to how you're feeling.
30:59I feel like this whole situation is just so awkward.
31:01It was a weird situation though.
31:03I was like, what can you do?
31:04Being like, it's me.
31:05Like, you know what I mean?
31:06It's so awkward.
31:07It's like shameful to be like, it's me.
31:12Demi.
31:28Even though Demi and I are going through some issues right now,
31:30it's devastating to see her react this way.
31:33She's opened up to me about her fertility journey.
31:35And I've seen so much of that emotion and heart rate.
31:37So seeing this reaction is so hard to witness.
31:40And I really hope that she's okay.
31:42I try so hard to consider everyone's feelings.
31:45And I feel like people are so flippant about things that bother me.
31:50And I'm just sitting there as someone who cares so much about people.
31:54I'm just like, Frank, does anyone care about me?
31:58That wasn't a trick anyone was playing on you.
32:00But I think it was just really terrible timing.
32:06My eyes are now puffy.
32:08Sorry that ruined the mood.
32:14Do you want something to make you happier?
32:15Sure.
32:17Think about it.
32:18What?
32:20Who's pregnant?
32:21I don't know.
32:22Say it to me.
32:23It's me.
32:24No, it is me.
32:26It's me.
32:28Are you lying?
32:29No.
32:31I'm not.
32:32You've been doing IVF the whole time and you didn't tell me?
32:37Wait, how far along are you?
32:38I'm two weeks behind you.
32:40I think.
32:42I'm gonna cry.
32:43Me too.
32:44I've been hiding it for so long.
32:45I know.
32:47Can you believe that?
32:48It makes me so happy.
32:49I know.
32:51Can you believe it?
32:52I know.
32:53How did I not know?
32:54Like, we've had shared a room so many times.
32:56And she's been, like, injecting herself.
32:58She has, like, all these shot patches on her arm or something.
33:01And I just never picked up on it.
33:03I know.
33:04I'm so excited.
33:05And then she tells me how far along she is.
33:07And she's literally two weeks behind me.
33:09So, I'm just so happy that we can go through it together.
33:11Oh, my gosh.
33:13We manifested that.
33:14No, we really did.
33:20I'm so sorry.
33:21I was so wrong.
33:25Hello.
33:27Well, congrats.
33:28Hi.
33:29Congrats.
33:30What?
33:31Is it you two?
33:32I knew it.
33:33Let's redo because I feel bad because that was my reaction.
33:36No, no one blames you.
33:38That was awful for you.
33:39I felt horrible.
33:40That was very terrible.
33:41Yeah.
33:42So many things were going through my head.
33:43I was like, oh, my gosh.
33:44Could I be?
33:45Yeah.
33:46That's why I felt horrible too.
33:47Because you're going to take another one.
33:48I was like, oh, shit.
33:49This is so exciting for both of them.
33:51And how fun that these two best friends get to be pregnant together.
33:54That's, like, the ultimate dream.
33:56And as I'm, like, feeling excitement, I'm also feeling so stupid and so bad
34:01that I made that moment about myself.
34:03Meanwhile, I'm, like, devastated.
34:05Is this ever going to happen for me?
34:07I was like, I think it's me.
34:08Like, oh, my gosh.
34:09Hey, it's going to be you, though.
34:11It will be when the timing's right.
34:14OK, well, you have to be ready in, like, 30 minutes.
34:17I know.
34:18You eating your cracker?
34:19Since I've talked to my family, I've been thinking a lot.
34:22And I know I need to give Dakota an answer on this ultimatum.
34:25The decision is so hard because, yes, I love him.
34:28But there is also the side of, like, he does trigger me.
34:31I'm so tired.
34:32Huh?
34:33Yeah.
34:34I'm so tired.
34:35I'm so tired.
34:36I'm so tired.
34:37I'm so tired.
34:38I'm so tired.
34:39I'm so tired.
34:40I'm so tired.
34:41I'm so tired.
34:42I'm so tired.
34:43I'm so tired.
34:44I'm so tired.
34:45Yeah, I know.
34:47He pulls a side out of me that I don't necessarily like of myself.
34:51And I feel like the last few years have been the hardest.
34:55My self-worth went down.
34:57And I feel like that's where I'm still, like, stuck.
35:01So even though I've been fighting to keep our family together because that is what the church teaches,
35:06if I've learned anything throughout all of this, it's to put my children first.
35:11Hi.
35:12And so I know I need to end things with Dakota for good and completely let him go.
35:18I do feel peace with that decision.
35:21I do not see me ever getting back with Dakota.
35:27Yeah.
35:29My feet already hurt standing here.
35:31Woo!
35:32Watch out for the rock!
35:33Don't give me a theme because I'll go all out.
35:35All right, this is our first test if we can walk, you guys.
35:38Today we have a day of sightseeing.
35:40I'm so excited because New Orleans has always been on my bucket list.
35:43And I've heard this place is just magical and has so much to offer.
35:46So I'm so excited.
35:47I'm so excited.
35:48I'm so excited.
35:49I'm so excited.
35:50I'm so excited.
35:51I'm so excited.
35:52I'm so excited.
35:53I'm so excited.
35:54I'm so excited.
35:55I'm so excited.
35:56I'm so excited.
35:57I don't know, but it has so much to offer.
35:58So I'm so excited to explore.
36:00Woo!
36:03It's so cute.
36:04Yeah, it's so cute.
36:05Oh, there's a live band coming.
36:07Is today something that I'm not aware of?
36:11Wooo!
36:14Hey, man what's up?
36:15Hey.
36:16Hi!
36:17Oh, thank you!
36:18Thank you!
36:19I love him.
36:20Oh look, there's Cafe Du Monde.
36:21Oh my gosh!
36:22I'm so excited!
36:27This is my main food group.
36:36Cheers!
36:37Cheers!
36:38Cheers!
36:39That's insane.
36:40That's what an orgasm feels like.
36:41Look at the little market.
36:42This is cute!
36:43I know they actually have some really cute jewelry.
36:44Look at the little market.
36:45This is cute.
36:46Ooh.
36:47I know.
36:48They actually have some really cute jewelry.
36:49I was looking at some of them for tomorrow night.
36:50I was like, ooh, some of the black pieces.
37:00I've been waiting for the perfect opportunity on this trip to pull Demi aside and talk to
37:04her about what she said about my salon and my business.
37:07I think this is the perfect opportunity.
37:09I've just been dreading this conversation because I'm really hurt by it.
37:12I don't understand why my best friend would say this about me and something I'm so passionate
37:17about.
37:18And it makes me wonder if I really know the real Demi.
37:20No, but I thought we should talk a little bit.
37:23I guess my question for you is what actually happened on the phone call?
37:26Because Taylor told me a version, but I want to hear your side too, obviously.
37:30Yeah.
37:31So like the way that she was making it sound was like, Jessie's terrible at color.
37:35Do not go to Jessie.
37:36Like they're awful, which I never said that.
37:39How do you feel about it?
37:40And like where did you get that?
37:42She was telling you she was going to come to me and your immediate thing was like, wait,
37:46hold on.
37:47Don't go there.
37:48So for me, that's hurtful to hear.
37:49Cause it's like she was telling you she was going to come to me and like your immediate
37:52thing wasn't to just be like, oh, you're right.
37:54Like she has a full salon that's well known over the country.
37:57Like it's not like I just opened a one chair salon.
37:59I'm doing my best.
38:00Like I just, it almost felt like you were taking business away from me.
38:04And so it just was like, oh, to hear that, especially after everything I've done for
38:07the girls in this group, free hairstyles, free hair, every time you need it, I curl
38:11all of your fucking hair.
38:12Every time we go anywhere.
38:13Like, I just feel like I get so taken advantage of, like, it just sucks that I do everything
38:17for everyone.
38:18And like then to just have my business be shit on like sucks.
38:21I'm bent over backwards to try to make everyone in this group feel good.
38:24And I never get that respect back.
38:25I feel like I never get anything back.
38:28And I hope you know that my intention, and even with what I said was not shitting on
38:33your business, it was strictly what it is.
38:35Like it feels that way for sure.
38:36I hear where you're coming from and I understand, but I want you to know that the way that it
38:40was spun and twisted, like her saying that if you go to Jay-Z, plan to cry or whatever.
38:44If you don't want to cry, don't go to Jay-Z.
38:46Yeah, that was never said and it wasn't said in that way.
38:50In this moment, I am feeling betrayed and kind of deflated.
38:54Hearing her explanations makes me feel worse, to be honest, because I don't think she means
38:59her apology.
39:00She's blaming it on other people.
39:01So that has opened my eyes to a lot of things.
39:04And it does make me wonder if Demi is the cancer in this group.
39:07I think I'm going to put a wall up and keep a little distance from her moving forward.
39:11Mixing friends and business is really hard.
39:13Maybe it's hard for her.
39:38Oh, we didn't show you guys the poem we had written about mom talk.
39:42Any poem, any topic.
39:43Pick a topic and I'll type you out a poem.
39:44Friendship.
39:45Yeah.
39:46Friendship.
39:47At a crossroad.
39:48Yeah.
39:49Where friendship collides, walking through time, ringing our sacred bells, we found each
39:53other when the timing was right.
39:54This is our journey.
39:55This is our flight.
39:56Sounds like a witching spell.
39:57I know.
39:58That's what I chanted.
39:59Yes.
40:00Does it not remind you of young women?
40:01Young women.
40:02When you're like, oh.
40:03They are daughters.
40:04How does anything start here?
40:05Remember, we are daughters.
40:06We are a family.
40:07We are a father who loves us and we love him.
40:08We stand with the witnesses of God at all times and all places.
40:11Us as described to live in the wind valleys, within our seas, divine nature, individual
40:18work, knowledge, choice and accountability, good works and integrity.
40:22Wow.
40:23Me, I'm sorry.
40:24In the Mormon church, once a woman turns 13, we have this thing called Young Women's that
40:29you go to.
40:30Young Women's basically is learning about the church.
40:32They also do activities that you can bond with other girls and bring them together and
40:35form a community.
40:36It's so weird to hear it like that, though, because having it in a chant like that, I'm
40:40like, we are cool.
40:41That sounds so crazy.
40:42Oh, have you ever been to the temple?
40:44Of course I have.
40:45Oh, I forgot you're first married.
40:48Yes.
40:49In Latter-day Saint religion, the temple is very sacred and holy and you need to live
40:56a certain way and you go through an interview process through your bishop to be worthy to
41:02enter the temple.
41:03Okay, here's the thing.
41:04I don't believe, but if I did, this freaks me out.
41:05You don't believe any of it?
41:06Do you believe the afterlife of it?
41:07Yeah, in a sense.
41:08Like some of it, for sure.
41:09To me, it's core Christian values.
41:10Yes, exactly.
41:11I feel very much like resonate with the core Christian values, but like they weren't uniquely
41:12Mormon.
41:13Yeah.
41:14Yes, exactly.
41:15That's how I feel.
41:16So you don't believe that the Book of Mormon is true?
41:17Yeah.
41:18I feel like, how do we really know?
41:19Like, there were no phones back then.
41:20There's no proof.
41:21But what I was going to say is I don't really believe, but there's no proof.
41:22But that doesn't change.
41:46He's always sealed to him.
41:48Even if you break it.
41:49in the church, if you don't get your sealing broken,
41:52your sealing is your marriage,
41:53then you're still married in the eyes of the church.
41:55And they believe that after you pass on,
41:57you're sealed forever.
41:58So technically I'm still sealed to my ex-husband,
42:01which means we would be together in the afterlife
42:03and I wouldn't be with my current husband.
42:05Part of the reason it was really hard for my family
42:07when Chase first left the church
42:08was because Chase had removed his records,
42:10which means that I'm no longer sealed to my children.
42:13Because essentially you need a man
42:15in order to be in the higher serenity.
42:16Which is also a problem.
42:16And can't they have eternal,
42:18like multiple eternal families?
42:20Yeah, why?
42:21Have you been through the Temple Ritual?
42:22Yeah.
42:23Has ever, wait.
42:24You have, you have, I have, you have.
42:27You have.
42:28Yes.
42:29Have not, have not.
42:30Nope.
42:31One day.
42:32You want to one day?
42:33If I marry Cam, I probably will for him.
42:35For him?
42:37Uh oh.
42:38Oh no, that's not good.
42:39I don't like that.
42:40What's up?
42:41How's that bad?
42:42I think that to me is definitely very harsh
42:44and I'm so over it.
42:47Going through the temple is something
42:48that's very important to Cam.
42:49It's something that he's always wanted for himself,
42:51for his future, for his future wife, for his future family.
42:54So it's something that's important to me
42:56because it's important to him.
42:57So I wasn't saying that I'm just doing this for Cam.
43:00I feel like I'm doing it for us.
43:02No, like I kind of want to just like sit in my bed
43:03and binge out on my phone for a sec.
43:06Are we changing for dinner?
43:08What are we wearing?
43:09Are we just like casual?
43:14Hi.
43:33Fun.
43:36Hi.
43:36Hello.
43:37Hi.
43:38Hi.
43:42Ooh, cute.
43:45We're going to the Vampire Apothecary for dinner.
43:47And I feel like this is the perfect sendoff
43:49from New Orleans because it's very vibey.
43:51It's a part of the culture.
43:53I don't feel like the Mormon church
43:54really likes stuff like this.
43:56Drinking blood, I'm not sure if that's against
43:58the word of wisdom, but if I had to guess,
44:00it would be a no.
44:01But hey, we're in NOLA, so we might as well live it up.
44:04Well, on my question for you,
44:06since you're kind of like up and down
44:08with some of the people in the group,
44:08are you gonna invite everyone to your Christmas party then?
44:11Like, is it a mom talk event or no?
44:13I'm throwing a little Christmas soiree for mom talk,
44:16and I'm really excited.
44:17I've put a lot of thought and intention into the night.
44:21I am just hoping that it's positive
44:23and that we're able to end the year on a high note
44:25by having the people there that I feel like
44:27genuinely deserve to be there.
44:29Brett and I are hosting that, and he is like not,
44:33he's equally as unhappy with Taylor as I am.
44:35And to me, it's like, just hit the road.
44:38Hi, everyone.
44:39Oh, hello.
44:40Hi.
44:41Hello.
44:42Ooh, the things.
44:43So I want to get you all started
44:44with our virgin blood bags right here.
44:46Also made with real virgin blood.
44:49Wait, what is it?
44:49Ooh, real virgin blood.
44:53You gotta push it down.
44:54Cute, thank you.
44:56I did these at like,
44:57this looks just like my enema.
45:00But speaking of Taylor,
45:02I'm curious to hear your thoughts on like,
45:04if everyone feels like Taylor deserves to be here
45:08and she puts in the effort and the work
45:10and she's a good representation
45:11of what mom talk originally was meant to be.
45:15Like, where's everyone's head at with that?
45:20Taylor being a part of mom talk,
45:22it's affecting us on a negative level.
45:24And I'm not willing to have someone in the group
45:27that's willing to jeopardize the health of my business.
45:31And tonight, I really want people to be like,
45:34we understand where you're coming from.
45:36Like, yeah, we don't have any need
45:37for her to even stick around.
45:39That's hard, because I feel like
45:42there's times when things ebb and flow with everyone,
45:45but also health issues really put things into perspective.
45:47So I just feel like if she did apologize
45:50and she's making changes, I have to like,
45:52okay, what am I gonna do, hold a grudge forever?
45:55You take it how you will, but as your friend,
45:57that wasn't an apology
45:58and that was not humility coming in there
45:59and being like, I genuinely want to change.
46:03At that Saints and Sitter parties,
46:04what she should have done is literally come in
46:07and say, I fucked up.
46:10She sat there and threw me under the bus.
46:12And then you're gonna remain the leader of MomTalk?
46:14Like, for what?
46:15Because she's the one who started it.
46:18But to see what she's capable of doing online
46:20to her friends and to people who have only loved
46:22and supported and been there for her is very problematic.
46:26And like, it hurts the group as a whole.
46:30For me right now, I'm just kind of at a loss
46:32because I do really want to give her
46:34the benefit of the doubt.
46:35I'm still coming from a place of hurt
46:38that I'm trying to heal.
46:39So I think I'm just hypersensitive
46:41to things that happen now, like with her CMA post.
46:45At least we have this situation now to give context
46:47if she does it again.
46:49After her apology at Saints and Sitters moving forward.
46:51If anything else happens after that apology,
46:53then I'm like, okay.
46:54And again, we have behavior to point to now
46:56that's like concrete that hurt all of us.
46:58So yeah, I kind of feel-
46:59How many chances like that do you give
47:00to someone before you go,
47:01you're literally a psychotic child?
47:04It's toxic as hell.
47:06And for me, as of now,
47:07I'm kind of like, if Taylor's in, I'm out.
47:12I'm not gonna be- Are you serious?
47:13Yeah, I'm not gonna be a part of mom talk anymore.
47:17We all have different relationships with her.
47:19And I think it's not fair to kick her out.
47:21I also don't think it's fair for you
47:22just to leave if she's in.
47:24But mom talk, we all move forward together
47:26in our friend group.
47:27Yeah. You know what I mean?
47:28Would that be fair for me to do though
47:30with the Whitney situation?
47:31If I was like, well, if Whitney's in, I'm out.
47:34But Whitney's life doesn't take over the group.
47:36Taylor is so, so self-centered and so selfish.
47:40And to me, it's like, we've had Whitney here this weekend.
47:43It's been great.
47:44Like that is- For you though,
47:45if Taylor was here, it wouldn't have been bad for me,
47:48but it would have been bad for you.
47:49Well, the level of the offense matters.
47:52And to me, I think that Taylor's more of a liability
47:54in this situation, given the fact that she is the face.
47:57Do I think that Taylor has narcissistic tendencies?
48:00A thousand percent.
48:01But I'm still on thin ice with a lot of the women.
48:04So yeah, I'm going to zip my lips,
48:06but I do agree with Demi.
48:08And it's not that I need the spotlight,
48:10but it's like, is this a group of women
48:12empowering each other and taking the turns on the spotlight?
48:15Or is this the Taylor show?
48:16I don't know. I haven't felt that way.
48:19It affects us when we go do events
48:21and who gets the opportunities
48:24and who gets interviews and stuff like that.
48:27And for me, I'm like,
48:28why are we putting this person on a pedestal?
48:30Why are we giving this person opportunities?
48:33Some opportunities we have are sometimes cause of her.
48:38That's fine, but I've learned too much about her now
48:40to continue riding the cloud.
48:42Like if this is part friendship, part business,
48:45like if this were a normal business,
48:47she'd be gone with the things that she's doing.
48:49Mom talk is way more than just business and work.
48:52This is definitely a side of Demi that I have not seen yet.
48:55And I don't know if I'm liking it.
48:57And at this point,
48:57I don't know what she's willing to do to get to the top.
49:00So that's very concerning for me.
49:02Well, I think about the situation with you and Jessie though
49:04you weren't supporting her business,
49:06but she's still is fine with that.
49:07That's different.
49:08How is it different?
49:09We're all a part of the same business.
49:10I'm not part of Jessie's business.
49:12I know, but you're her best friend.
49:14I wasn't her best friend at the time.
49:17I am so frustrated right now.
49:19It's like, are we going to do what's right girls?
49:21What is mom talk?
49:22If it's not on standing on business,
49:24standing on what's right and creating an environment
49:28that's healthy and conducive to success.
49:30I'm so, so disappointed in everyone.
49:33I feel like I'm on an Island right now.
49:35This is the last thing I'll say is that
49:38you guys do what you will with it,
49:40but she genuinely tarnishes the,
49:43what mom talk was meant to be.
49:44I think Demi wants to kick Taylor out of mom talk
49:46because Taylor's a threat to her.
49:48And it's the easiest solution to that problem.
49:51I don't know what's going on here,
49:52but I don't want to have to choose a side.
49:53I loved me and I think she's great,
49:56but how many friendships do you know
49:58where you have to be voted out or in?
50:00Manipulating the situation to be like,
50:02Hey, I'm going to walk with Taylor's here.
50:03Is that fair to the rest of us?
50:07I think that Demi secretly wants to be the leader
50:09of mom talk, but Taylor did start mom talk.
50:12We're all here because of her.
50:14I don't know what's going to happen.
50:16I don't know what's going to happen.
50:21Demi said that like, if you're in mom talk,
50:24then like she would like leave mom talk.
50:26What the hell is Leanne doing here?
50:28Let's get Taylor out of the picture
50:30because now I want to be Taylor.
50:32She needs to go to therapy
50:33and she needs to go be a fucking mom.
50:36I've done absolutely nothing to you.
50:38What?
50:39What have I done other than react to your poor behavior?
50:41Just a selfish bitch.
50:43I'm honestly kind of worried.
50:45I don't feel like mom talk right now
50:46is standing for anything that we originally stood for.
50:49I feel like Demi lied to me
50:50and I don't want to say too much,
50:52but more happened than what she's leading.