The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 9
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00:00Jesse I'm in the closet in the closet. That's my second bedroom
00:09I brought you some cookies. Oh my gosh. Did you make these? Yes, wait, they're so I know you have a sweet tooth
00:16Um, literally, I'll be all of these today, you know going through a bunch of shit
00:20I mean, I figure Jordan's fat butt will be eating him. No, it's so true. We're gonna finish these by today. So
00:26Okay, wait, I know but New Orleans is like green and purple
00:30So for one of the nights, I'm gonna do like this. Isn't that you buy these for everything? Yeah, no
00:35Uh-huh. Mm-hmm a while ago. We decided that we wanted to go on another girls trip
00:39So I booked us a house and everything's set in stone, but after scenes and sinners, it's definitely awkward timing
00:46She doesn't think you're good at hair
00:48She told me not to go to you for hair and that's why I went to a different salon
00:50Talk to me cuz this is about me. Look me in the eyes you narcissist
00:53Look at me we talked about the way that you treat your your boyfriend. I'm gonna protect
00:59Your ever in this situation
01:02Let's take it there Taylor. There's still tension with a few of the girls, but the trip is paid for so we are going
01:07Hopefully we don't regret this
01:09Speaking of baked goods because you're so nice to bring me this and I got an update. I actually have to get surgery
01:15Oh my gosh, so getting the whole thing out
01:17I'm gonna do half and then the sucky thing is as they said they can't tell me if it's cancer or not till after
01:22The surgery like they won't know till they take it out
01:25But if I don't get it removed and it is cancer, it could spread to my lymph nodes
01:29How do you feel about it all?
01:31I'm like trying to stay positive because I do think that if you're sick
01:34If you dwell on it and have a bad attitude, it can make you worse like that's my belief
01:39Once the show came out I had a few nurses actually reach out to me on social media
01:43They all told me that I looked like I had an enlarged thyroid and I should get it checked
01:47It prompted me to make an appointment
01:49So I went to a thyroid specialist and they did an ultrasound and found that I had six nodules on this side one on this
01:56Side that wasn't large. Basically. We came to the conclusion that I should get a partial thyroid removal having this health issue
02:03Unfold it does put things into perspective. I think we need to focus on the bigger picture
02:07So crazy that I could just be living with it and not know though. So why don't you do it?
02:11Well, if you are gosh, damn, I don't think I would be like that. I know everyone else would be like
02:16No, I would like laying in bed all day
02:19Bring me food and rub my feet. You're like I'm going to Dallas. I'm gonna LA. No, I'm like legit
02:24Oh, no Orleans. Are you excited for the trip? I am excited. I feel like I'm curious. How are things gonna go?
02:31I just feel like the trip has more
02:33Opportunities to be explosive than not. I think I'm mostly worried about Demian Taylor Demian Taylor for sure
02:38And then I'm also just worried about like Demian the hair stuff
02:41I'm kind of like you're gonna just say really terrible things about me and then justify it. Oh, so yeah, I don't know
02:46I think I'll have to talk to Demian about it at some point. That's so messy. I'm sorry
02:49That's like hard because I feel like it like friendships, especially when it's like your best friend
02:53It makes it so hard because it's like you don't want to question them
02:55No, that should be the person you go to for things and like to vent that would have been hard
02:59Yeah, if like Michaela said about me I've been like, okay. Bye in mom talk from my perspective
03:04It's all about supporting women being there for each other. But right now it feels petty and honestly kind of toxic
03:11It just feels like the drama is becoming the cancer in the group
03:14So we're gonna have to have deeper conversations to work out those issues
03:18Yeah, wait, how would you handle this because you're really good at seeing both sides and I know that can be frustrating for us
03:24But I know you like how would you do it if Michaela was doing this to you?
03:27I mean Michaela did talk about this situation and she was like if you did that to me
03:30I would've been like you're not my friend anymore
03:45I'm the one you've been dreaming of
03:47I got everything you could ever want
03:51Try me and you'll see
03:53I'll bring you to your knees
03:55Baby, you're gonna believe
03:57Make us love, end the temptation
04:01Make us love, end the temptation
04:05End the temptation
04:14I can see it in my mind
04:30Do we ever have any other method of transportation?
04:32No, we don't. We just, we have to ride on a pole to get to our place or else it didn't happen
04:37Guys, where's the pole?
04:39I'll be at the pole, someone dance on me
04:44Can I like confess something to you guys?
04:46Yes
04:47After the Saints and Sinners event
04:49Um, I did a sage cleanse
04:51No!
04:52I would've too
04:53I would've too
04:54I can't blame you
04:55I'm dead
04:56Get these girls out of here
04:58Goodbye
05:00Goodbye
05:01This whole group needs a sage, seriously
05:04I really want to enjoy this trip but there is some unspoken tension between Demi and I
05:08We have not talked about what came out about what she said about Jay-Z styles
05:12So it's looming in the back of my mind that I need to pull her aside and hash it out because I'm really hurt by it
05:18Well, is it weird that the group's like down to seven right now?
05:22I feel small
05:23Kayla and I were together last night and Jordan got a call from Dakota
05:27And he was like, oh he told me Taylor's not going on your trip
05:30Like that's how we found out she wasn't coming and I was like, oh
05:32Yeah, I think she's just like not mentally able to do this which makes sense but
05:37Taylor's not here and so that feels a lot better to me
05:40I think she's kind of playing the avoidant game a little bit and for good reason
05:45I think she should be scared of me
05:47But I'm hopeful that Mom Talk will be able to kind of repair some of the friendships within this group with the toxicity not present
05:55I will say the energy without having Taylor here is nice
05:59Like not feeling like I'm walking on eggshells
06:01That is nice for you for sure
06:04I think it definitely sucks that Taylor is not coming on this girl's trip
06:07And now I feel bad because I told Taylor that I'm going to have her back at St. Ann's Centers
06:12And I didn't
06:13I definitely think that Demi is kind of at fault for the group's divide right now
06:16Taylor did wrong her in some situations but so did Demi to bring a child to it
06:21You just don't cross those lines
06:23But yeah, there's definitely some weird vibes right now
06:25Do you guys not feel that way?
06:27Do you not feel like that eggshell feeling around her?
06:30No, honestly, I feel worse because I thought that the blow up would be you guys
06:33And now that she's not here, I'm like, what's going on?
06:35Who is it?
06:36Yeah, who is it?
06:40Mikaela, it's Spoonkie
06:42Alright, let's go
06:43You guys, it's cute
06:45Wait, I love it
06:47The house is so charming and cute
06:49Like we're just really immersing ourselves with the culture of New Orleans
06:53Oh, fancy
06:55I feel like New Orleans
06:59What have I been saying?
07:01Princess Tiana says New Orleans
07:03This is your next info for your next hair extension
07:05Yep, these are my West
07:07This house is definitely very New Orleans
07:09And I wanted this experience to feel very genuine and authentic
07:12So I even hired a private chef to make us a very authentic Louisiana meal
07:16So we're going to really embrace the culture the very first night
07:19Oh my gosh, hello, nice to meet you
07:21I'm Jessie
07:23Oh Sam, Mikaela, rub elbows
07:25This house is amazing, look at this
07:27Oh my gosh
07:29Oh my god, it's beautiful
07:31Wait, I know, look at the mocktails
07:33Wow
07:35So on this side we have
07:37Fried chicken, grilled chicken
07:39Blackened salmon
07:41Garlic butter noodles, gumbo
07:43Nola style
07:45Crab cakes
07:47Shrimp and lobster mac and cheese
07:49Zucchini and squash
07:51I'm so excited, this is so fun
07:53Let me have a drink
07:55No, but like I want to
07:57But I'm breastfeeding
07:59All right, let's go get dressed really quick
08:01Get our rooms and then we'll come back down
08:05Hello
08:07The fog
08:09This is so freaking cute
08:11I know
08:13I want us to all be able to enjoy and have fun together
08:15But I'm also stressed out because I'm still hiding my pregnancy
08:17And I'm waiting for the right time to tell the girls
08:19Especially Demi because I know she's been going through infertility for a while now
08:21It is so like
08:23Emotionally draining
08:25Like it's
08:27Because you can't figure out
08:29Like what's going on
08:31It's more like how bad I want that
08:33With someone that I'm like in love with
08:39Demi is so fired up about Taylor right now
08:41That it just doesn't feel like this is the right time
08:43I've had literally one bite and I'm like
08:45Wait, this is the best food I've ever had
08:47Yeah, I took one bite of that shrimp and I was like
08:49Ooh, yum
08:51Did everyone get the video of Jen?
08:53What?
08:55Oh, she did
08:57I have not spoken with Jen
08:59Since our conversation where she stormed out
09:01And I know she's really spiteful
09:03Towards both me and Demi right now
09:05So I'm very curious
09:07To see what she has to say
09:09To all of us?
09:11Yes
09:17Did everyone get the video of Jen?
09:19What?
09:21Okay, hold on, hold on
09:23Okay, everyone be quiet
09:25Guys, excuse what I look like
09:27I just came out of therapy
09:29As you guys probably know, I'm pregnant
09:31And the first trimester is
09:33Absolute hell
09:35I've been in some of the darkest
09:37Um
09:39Places of my life
09:41And I'm focusing on
09:43Not only on my physical health
09:45But my mental health
09:47And in order to protect this baby
09:49I feel like
09:51It's important that I stay at home
09:53And get some rest
09:55I've been hurting
09:57And because of that I think
09:59I've maybe hurt some of you
10:01And I'm really sorry
10:03Oh my gosh, I'm sorry
10:07Anyways, love you guys
10:09Hope to talk to you soon
10:15Alright, so what does everyone
10:17Think about that?
10:19I feel like
10:21It's hard because I feel like that trumps everything
10:23In my opinion, you know?
10:25I know what she's done and it's not discrediting
10:27What she's done to people in this room
10:29Because it's not okay
10:31But I think at the end of the day
10:33At least for me I'm going to
10:35Prioritize that she's
10:37In that dark of a place
10:39To have that take precedence
10:41Give her some grace
10:43She's mentioned to me
10:45A handful of times
10:47When I treated Jessie
10:49And I want to apologize formally
10:51I'm open to talking to her for sure
10:53I definitely want closure
10:55Even if she was just like
10:57I was going through a shitty time and I did shitty things
10:59That's good enough for me
11:01Just tell me why and let's hope it doesn't happen again
11:03I think it's great that you're in that position
11:05To give her enough grace
11:07Because I know it was a pretty bad blowout
11:09That shows a lot about your character
11:11Hearing all of the things that she said
11:13Made me realize that she's been
11:15Struggling more than I thought
11:17My heart does go out to her
11:19I'm glad to hear that she's getting help
11:21And I think I learned from our fight that I never want that to happen again
11:23I wish I would have handled that better
11:25It goes against everything we stand for in mom talk
11:27We want to be honest with each other
11:29And have those hard conversations
11:31But we should never be yelling at each other
11:33And I'm disappointed that I did that
11:35So when she's ready I will totally have
11:37Like a calm conversation with her
11:39And I really do hope that she's getting the help she needs
11:41So that she can be herself again
11:43I have a hard time with someone who's sitting there
11:45Being like I've been working on myself
11:47I've been coming so far
11:49Things change though, in a week and a half
11:51They can, I don't know that I totally buy it
11:57First of all crying videos
11:59Will never not be weird to me
12:01I think it's so strange to like film yourself crying
12:03And I think it's like
12:05A little bit manipulative
12:07And a little bit cowardly still
12:09Like I understand you're going through a hard time
12:11I know you're mentally struggling
12:13But I think also follow it up with a text
12:15To the people you have real issues with
12:17And
12:19I just don't think Jen's capable to be honest
12:21It does make me hesitant
12:23To tell her anything though
12:25Because it's a pattern of like
12:27Digging up the past
12:29I feel like at this rate I'm hesitant to tell anyone in this group anything
12:31I'm being completely honest
12:33I don't know just because I'm seeing you know
12:35Like Taylor's situation and you guys
12:37Anything you say will be taken into future argument
12:39I feel like that's what I've noticed
12:41Like in certain arguments that I've seen
12:43That makes me not want to say or ever be vulnerable
12:45Let's also not demonize the whole group
12:47Because there are a lot of like
12:49Valuable friendships in the group
12:51That like people genuinely do care
12:53I think it's a little harsh of Demi
12:55When we don't know the severity of what Jen's going through
12:57Her mental health right now
12:59And so I'm just a little bit more hesitant
13:01When it comes to trusting Demi
13:03Like there's people within the group that I think you genuinely can trust
13:05And
13:07But like because I'm seeing it happening so frequently
13:09I'm like oof
13:11Like it like scares me
13:21Oh that's the vibe
13:23On the freaking balconies
13:25I'm so excited
13:33New Orleans is known for its nightlife
13:35And it's really hard to come here and not go out on the town
13:37So I arranged for us to go to a burlesque show
13:39I did learn my lesson from Chippendales though
13:41I'm not going to spring anything on them
13:43I'm going to warn the girls what we're doing
13:45But I think this is going to be a really fun way to experience the culture
13:51Hello my disco creatures
13:55The only burlesque I've seen
13:57Is the Broadway Moulin Rouge
13:59And it was so much fun
14:01The tassels, they had the cute outfits
14:03So I'm just excited to have a fun time
14:13This is definitely not what I thought the show was going to be
14:19I'm a little scared
14:21I'm going to have PTSD from this night
14:23Yeah this is not what I was thinking
14:25A burlesque show was
14:27If I'm being honest
14:29I did not think I was about to see the cute
14:31The witch, the wooch, the titty
14:33All of it
14:55Leila she pulled it out of her vagina
14:57What are you doing?
15:01Cut it from the show
15:03I regret everything
15:15Leila open your mouth
15:17It was Demi's fault because she's like Leila
15:19And I was like oh no I forgot it came out of her vagina
15:23Honestly I would have judged you more if you didn't
15:25You're welcome
15:27There could have been bodily fluids
15:29She could have had a yeast infection
15:51Hello
15:53Hey how's it going?
15:55What are you guys doing a puzzle?
15:57I'm miserable
15:59Why?
16:01I don't do these kind
16:03I do puzzles all the time
16:05You're a five piece puzzle
16:09After that whole situation
16:11At Saints and Sinners
16:13I am not in a good head spot
16:15Demi brought up the low point of my life
16:17To bring that up was insane
16:19It's very triggering
16:21I know you're hurt at me right now
16:23And you're coming at me
16:25Um
16:27So you know the Saints and Sinners party
16:29Did I tell you about that or no?
16:31So I already knew that Demi was like ready to
16:33Come at me because she felt strongly
16:35About the situation and obviously
16:37We were going back and forth
16:39What situation?
16:41My post
16:43Yes I remember
16:45She's saying Dakota and I are in a toxic cycle
16:47And so it's like if you want to go there
16:49Just know that you could potentially ruin
16:51Someone else other than who you're trying to ruin
16:53Like shut up
16:55She's like a bully
16:57She is literally a bully
16:59I'd go to war
17:01If you poke at me it's straight to war
17:03There's no petty
17:05It's just straight to war
17:07She's a
17:09C-W
17:11C-W
17:13C-W?
17:15What are you saying?
17:17What is a C-W?
17:19She doesn't know how to spell
17:21This is such like a
17:23Personal thing that I've
17:25Gone through it went
17:27Freaking on the news
17:29Everywhere and it's just like I'm doing
17:31All the work that I can I instantly
17:33I mean he's been out of my house for like
17:35Almost five like months now
17:37We've been going to major therapy
17:39Trauma therapy I'm like doing everything
17:41That we can to become better in protection
17:43Of like our families
17:45Do you think that any of the other girls like have your back?
17:47I mean like
17:49What's going on with Macy?
17:51I mean I don't know
17:53And Mikayla and Layla
17:55Layla kind of just goes with the wind
17:57She's just young
17:59Yeah and Miranda really doesn't say much
18:01So I'm like yeah
18:03I'm surprised Miranda hasn't like stuck up for you more
18:05Because she doesn't have a backbone
18:07Yeah that's sad
18:09So they're all going on their trip and then
18:11Yeah
18:13I don't want to be around any of it
18:15I don't care about mental health I just
18:17I think it's better to stay here
18:19Keep going to therapy be with my kids
18:21Like I'd rather do that
18:23I'm tired of everybody
18:25If anything you've been a great friend
18:27To all of them
18:29And I don't know how they can't see that
18:31You created mom talk
18:33I don't care what anybody says
18:35Whatever like you are
18:37The person that started it
18:39You're the one that welcomed all these girls
18:41I know it's nice of you but it like pisses them off
18:43They're going to resent me if they keep hearing that
18:45I love mom talk
18:47But right now I do feel like I don't know who I trust
18:49I don't know what is said behind my back
18:51I don't know where I stand with them
18:53I just have felt alone
18:55If we learned anything
18:57Just trust your gut
18:59Okay
19:01Mine was literally saying
19:03Leave your relationship
19:05Something is not right
19:07Every single day I knew specifically where it was wrong
19:09And I
19:11I was like
19:13Didn't listen
19:15But I mean you did have your mom, your dad
19:17Your sister, your friends all saying
19:19Something's off
19:21Why are you with Dakota and asking you
19:23And you always just
19:25No because mom and dad ended up really liking him
19:27They're like you should work things out
19:29Don't give up easily
19:31That's after ever though
19:33I like Dakota I'm not saying anything bad
19:35I like Dakota too
19:37But do I like you guys together
19:39No
19:41Yeah it's really sad
19:43Do you pray?
19:45All the time?
19:47Lately I've been like please help me through this
19:49Because this is really hard
19:51I think that's just how life is
19:53Because you're going to keep going down the same cycle
19:55Until you say I'm going to change
19:57I need to change something
19:59You need to change
20:01You need to change it
20:03Only you can change it
20:05I can tell you a million trillion times
20:07Only you can change it
20:17I'm seriously so tired
20:19I'm going to go to bed
20:21To the living room we shall go
20:23Hello
20:25Welcome
20:27This is such a cute situation
20:29Act like we're friends everybody
20:31I'm like we like each other
20:33Hey Miranda
20:35Tonight was the most humiliating thing in my life
20:37But with all the drama between the girls right now
20:39There's a lot that we need to talk about
20:41At least I'm a little bit high right now
20:43To make the pain a little bit less excruciating
20:45Actually to me there's been something
20:47That I've been wanting to ask you about
20:49Do you see yourself ever being friends with Taylor again
21:01I just don't see her being able to
21:03Take full accountability
21:05And I don't think that she has
21:07The emotional maturity
21:09To
21:11Have a deep
21:13Meaningful friendship
21:17My answer is no
21:19What's your status with Whitney
21:21More so just
21:23Repairing I think
21:25We're all kind of confused about
21:27Demi's relationship with Whitney
21:29There's been so many times where Demi came to me
21:31And just give up on Whitney
21:33Like be done with her
21:35And now I know that they have been getting closer
21:37It's so frustrating to like
21:39Have the narratives be spun
21:41And look how it continues to happen
21:43Like I have to walk on eggshells around you
21:45And Whitney definitely got defensive
21:47For Demi
21:49Okay should we just have the resolution
21:51Of the petty IG post and move on from it
21:53No truly
21:55That was weird
21:57Right now with her
21:59I was talking to her today about just the whole Taylor situation
22:01And I think we've like been able to like talk about it
22:03Because we feel very similarly
22:05And it's been nice because I'm like okay
22:07I kind of felt a little bit alone
22:09And how intense I was feeling about everything
22:11And she was like no I totally see what you're seeing
22:13Like Taylor doesn't know how to be a friend
22:15I've tried to go to Taylor and express things
22:17And it's shit on
22:19Well do you feel like you're being chummy with her
22:21Because she's going against Taylor
22:23And it's almost like an ally in that situation
22:25I'm not commiserating over something just because it's Taylor
22:27I don't feel this way because I think that we all should to a degree
22:29I'm extremely frustrated
22:31To have to even have this conversation right now
22:33Taylor is the problem
22:35How can you not see that
22:37How do you feel
22:39I feel like a lot more intimidated by her
22:41Do you guys ever think about like where Taylor would be
22:43And what she'd be like right now if she had never met Dakota
22:45I think she thinks about it all the time
22:47I can't imagine that's probably why like she feels so erratic all the time
22:49I hope that like both of them
22:51Hasn't she always been that way though
22:53And like toxic
22:55I feel like she has the tendency more often
22:57Ever since the whole swinging thing
22:59Like I feel like Taylor was a lot more mellow
23:01For sure
23:03Well I can't imagine if she would have not dated him
23:05Didn't date anyone for a year and just healed
23:07From the swinging stuff, the divorce
23:09I feel like it would be a completely different situation
23:11I think that she chases chaos
23:17I feel like Demi is playing a game
23:19Of who can stab the knife in deeper
23:21And twist it harder
23:23I just feel like she's losing perspective
23:25Of what really matters if mom talked
23:27Well I think I'm gonna go to bed
23:29Love you guys
23:31Thanks for my massage
23:37You are kidding me
23:39My heart's in my ass
23:53What's on the menu
23:55What a wild night
23:57Rise and shine
23:59There you are
24:01Now she's ready for breakfast
24:03I'm starving
24:05I have a surprise
24:07What is it
24:09We're gonna play a little game for breakfast
24:11Oh no
24:13Is that a pregnancy test
24:15We're gonna play pregnancy roulette
24:17Shut up
24:19You're on everyone
24:21This makes me think that someone's pregnant
24:23I instantly have anxiety
24:25Because I was not planning
24:27On telling the girls yet
24:29Or at least in this way
24:31I have a whole plan on what I want to do to tell the girls I'm pregnant
24:33But this is definitely not it
24:35Just for fun
24:37Is someone pregnant we don't know
24:39I love this game on TikTok
24:41The reason why we're doing this is because I'm late on my period
24:43So we're gonna do this
24:45This is a cruel prank
24:47Because what if someone is and then it's not me
24:49This isn't traumatic at all
24:51I don't cry every single time I take a test and get a negative
24:53Brett and I have been trying to get pregnant
24:55For about four years now
24:57And so I feel like I'm gonna throw up
24:59It's like evoking all of these emotions in me
25:01And triggering me to my core
25:03My least favorite thing to do
25:05Is take a pregnancy test
25:07I'm gonna get a bowl
25:09Everyone's gonna go take their test
25:11And then you're gonna put in the bowl
25:13And we're gonna all pick it out and see
25:15And it's gonna be funny
25:17I'm the one that's ready
25:19You're pregnant one month postpartum
25:21I better not be
25:23That's for sure
25:25Irish twins
25:27I mean there's gotta be a positive
25:29One of us is bound to be pregnant in this group
25:31At all times
25:33It's not me
25:35It's definitely not me
25:37It better not be me
25:39Wait this is nerve wracking
25:41I'm a little anxious now
25:43Are we pregnant?
25:45I'm nervous
25:47That one's safe
25:49Wait
25:51Oh negative
25:53Put it on there
25:55Negative
25:57Wait
25:59I literally peed and I brought it up
26:01Oh shit I'm pregnant
26:03I'm so nervous
26:05No you're kidding I literally got one
26:07Ahhhh
26:09You guys
26:11I knew it
26:13Oh
26:15I'm like
26:17What?
26:19Stop looking at me I don't know
26:21I didn't look
26:23I'm screaming
26:25Who's fucking pregnant?
26:27I'm gonna cry
26:29Who is it?
26:31Holy shit that is a dark ass freaking line
26:33Whoever hears pregnant is like pregnant pregnant
26:35I'm feeling Miranda's very soft
26:37I am too
26:39Look at why she's laughing and putting her face down
26:41She's so confrontational
26:43Everyone's shocked
26:45I'm like oh my gosh what it's a positive
26:47It's cause I genuinely feel so panicked
26:49That's wrong
26:51This is criminal
26:53Now we don't know who
26:55Wait I'm sick
26:57Oh my god this is criminal
26:59I have to get ready I'm nervous
27:01Negative
27:03Holy shit
27:05My heart's racing
27:07Negative's on the track
27:09It's one of us
27:11Who is it?
27:13Oh no there's four
27:15I genuinely am so
27:17No
27:19You're kidding
27:21Shut up
27:23You're lying
27:25Ahhhh
27:27No
27:29You're lying
27:31Guys
27:33Wait I'm gonna start crying
27:35Guys
27:37This is actually really sad for her
27:39I know
27:41Who's gonna save me now
27:43Oh my god
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31:21Even though Demi and I are going through some issues right now it's devastating to see her
31:29react this way.
31:30She's opened up to me about her fertility journey and I've seen so much of that emotion
31:34and heartbreak so seeing this reaction is so hard to witness and I really hope that
31:39she's okay.
31:40I try so hard to consider everyone's feelings and like I feel like people are so flippant
31:45about like things that like bother me and I'm just sitting there like as someone who
31:49cares so much about people and I'm just like frick does anyone care about me?
31:54Yeah.
31:55Like that wasn't a trick anyone was playing on you but I think it was just really terrible
31:58timing.
31:59Eyes are now puffy.
32:05Sorry that ruined the mood.
32:11Do you want something to make you happier?
32:14Sure.
32:15Think about it.
32:16What?
32:17Who's pregnant?
32:18I don't know.
32:19Is it Demi?
32:20It's me.
32:21No it isn't.
32:22It's me.
32:23Are you lying?
32:24No.
32:25I'm not.
32:26You've been doing IVF the whole time and you didn't tell me?
32:27Wait how far along are you?
32:28I'm two weeks behind you.
32:29I think.
32:30I'm gonna cry.
32:31Me too.
32:32I've been hiding it for so long.
32:33Can you believe that?
32:34It makes me so happy.
32:35I know.
32:36Can you believe it?
32:37I'm so happy.
32:38I'm so happy.
32:39I'm so happy.
32:40I'm so happy.
32:41I'm so happy.
32:42I'm so happy.
32:43I'm so happy.
32:44I'm so happy.
32:45I'm so happy.
32:46I'm so happy.
32:47I'm so happy.
32:48I'm so happy.
32:49I'm so happy.
32:50I'm so happy.
32:51I'm so happy.
32:52Can you believe it?
32:53How did I not know?
32:54Like we've shared a room so many times and she's been like injecting herself.
32:56She has like all these shot patches on her arm or something and I just never picked up
32:59on it.
33:00And then she tells me how far along she is and she's literally two weeks behind me.
33:06So I'm just so happy that we can go through it together.
33:08Oh my gosh.
33:10We manifested that.
33:11No we really did.
33:14I'm so sorry.
33:18I know, I was so wrong.
33:20Yeah, I know.
33:23Hello.
33:24Well, congrats.
33:25Hi.
33:26Congrats.
33:27What, is it you too?
33:29I knew it.
33:30Okay.
33:30Let's redo because I feel bad
33:32because that was my reaction.
33:34No, no one blames you.
33:35And that was awful for you.
33:37That was very terrible.
33:38Well, yeah.
33:39So many things were going through my head.
33:41I was like, oh my gosh, could I be?
33:43Yeah.
33:44That's why I vote horrible too
33:45because you're like, I'm gonna take another one.
33:46I was like, oh shit.
33:47This is so exciting for both of them
33:48and how fun that these two best friends
33:50get to be pregnant together.
33:51That's like the ultimate dream.
33:53And as I'm like feeling excitement,
33:55I'm also feeling so stupid and so bad
33:58that I made that moment about myself.
34:00Meanwhile, I'm like devastated.
34:02Is this ever gonna happen for me?
34:04I was like, I think it's me.
34:06Like, oh my gosh.
34:07Hey, it's going to be you though.
34:08It will be when the timing's right.
34:11Okay, well, we have to be ready in like 30 minutes.
34:17βͺ Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me βͺ
34:23I know.
34:24You eating your cracker?
34:25Since I've talked to my family,
34:27I've been thinking a lot
34:28and I know I need to give Dakota
34:30an answer on this ultimatum.
34:32The decision is so hard because yes, I love him,
34:34but there is also the side of like, he does trigger me.
34:38I'm so tired.
34:43Yes, I know.
34:44He pulls a side out of me
34:46that I don't necessarily like of myself.
34:49And I feel like the last few years
34:51have been the hardest.
34:52My self-worth went down
34:55and I feel like that's where I'm still like stuck.
34:58So even though I've been fighting
35:00to keep our family together
35:02because that is what the church teaches,
35:03if I've learned anything throughout all of this,
35:06it's to put my children first.
35:10And so I know I need to end things with Dakota for good
35:12and completely let him go.
35:14Ooh.
35:16I do feel peace with that decision.
35:19I do not see me ever getting back with Dakota.
35:24Yeah.
35:38My feet already hurt standing here.
35:40Woo! Watch out for the rock.
35:42Don't give me a theme.
35:43All right, this is our first test.
35:45If we can walk, you guys.
35:47Today we have a day of sightseeing.
35:49I'm so excited because New Orleans
35:51has always been on my bucket list.
35:52And I've heard this place is just magical
35:54and has so much to offer.
35:55So I'm so excited to explore.
36:00It's so cute.
36:01Yeah, it's so cute.
36:03Oh, there's a live band.
36:04There's a live band coming.
36:05Is like today something?
36:06Like that I'm unaware of?
36:15I love him.
36:17Oh, look, there's Cafe Du Monde.
36:18Oh my gosh.
36:19I'm so excited.
36:27Oh my gosh.
36:28Oh my gosh.
36:29I broke the airpods.
36:30Sorry.
36:32This is my main food group.
36:33Cheers.
36:34Cheers.
36:35Cheers.
36:36Cheers.
36:38That's insane.
36:39That's what an orgasm feels like.
36:44Look at the little market.
36:46This is cute.
36:46Look.
36:47Ooh.
36:48I know, they actually have some really cute jewelry.
36:50I was looking at some of them for tomorrow night.
36:52I was like, ooh, some of the black pieces.
36:54I've been waiting for the perfect opportunity
36:56on this trip to pull Demi aside
36:58and talk to her about what she said
36:59about my salon and my business.
37:01I think this is the perfect opportunity.
37:03I've just been dreading this conversation
37:05because I'm really hurt by it.
37:07I don't understand why my best friend
37:09would say this about me and something that's not true.
37:12I don't understand why she would say this about me
37:13and something I'm so passionate about.
37:14And it makes me wonder if I really know the real Demi.
37:18No, but I thought we should talk a little bit.
37:20I guess my question for you is
37:21what actually happened on the phone call?
37:24Because Taylor told me a version,
37:25but I want to hear your side too, obviously.
37:27Yeah, so like the way that she was making it sound
37:30was like, Jessie's terrible at color.
37:32Do not go to Jessie.
37:33Like, they're awful.
37:35Which I never said that.
37:36How do you feel about it?
37:37And like, where do you feel that at?
37:39She was telling you she was going to come to me
37:42and your immediate thing was like,
37:43wait, hold on, don't go there.
37:44So for me, that's hurtful to hear
37:46because it's like, she was telling you
37:48she was going to come to me
37:49and like your immediate thing wasn't to just be like,
37:51oh, you're right.
37:51Like, she has a full salon
37:52that's well known over the country.
37:54Like, it's not like I just opened a one chair salon.
37:56I'm doing my best.
37:57Like, I just, it almost felt like
37:58you were taking business away from me.
38:01And so it just was like, oh, to hear that,
38:03especially after everything I've done
38:04for the girls in this group.
38:05Free hairstyles, free hair every time you need it.
38:08I curl all of your fucking hair every time we go anywhere.
38:10Like, I just feel like I get so taken advantage of.
38:13Like, it just sucks that I do everything for everyone.
38:15And like, then to just have my business be shit on,
38:18like, sucks.
38:18I bend over backwards to try to make everyone
38:20in this group feel good.
38:21And I never get that respect back.
38:22I feel like I never get anything back.
38:25And I hope you know that my intention,
38:27and even with what I said,
38:29was not shitting on your business.
38:31It was strictly what-
38:31But it is.
38:32Like, it feels that way for sure.
38:33I hear where you're coming from and I understand,
38:35but I want you to know that the way that it was spun
38:37and twisted, like her saying that if you go to Jay-Z,
38:40plan to cry or whatever.
38:41If you don't want to cry, don't go to Jay-Z.
38:43Yeah.
38:43That was never said, and it wasn't said in that way.
38:46In this moment, I am feeling betrayed
38:50and kind of deflated.
38:51Hearing her explanations makes me feel worse, to be honest,
38:54because I don't think she means her apologies.
38:57She's blaming it on other people.
38:58So, it has opened my eyes to a lot of things.
39:01And it does make me wonder if Demi
39:03is the cancer in this group.
39:04I think I'm gonna put a wall up
39:06and keep a little distance from her moving forward.
39:08Mixing friends and business is really hard.
39:10Maybe it's hard for her.
39:12I had to pump my milkers your milkers and we didn't show you guys the poem we had written
39:37about mom talk. Any poem, any topic. Pick a topic and I'll type you out a poem. Friendship
39:43at a crossroad. Yeah. Where friendship collides, walking through time, ringing our sacred bells,
39:50we found each other when the timing was right. This is our journey, this is our flight. Sounds
39:54like a witching spell. I know. That's what I chanted. Does it not remind you of young
39:58women? Young women. How does anything start in here? Remember, we are daughters of our
40:03heavenly father who loves us and we love him. We will stand with witnesses of God at all times
40:08and all places. As we strive to live in the good values of which are peace, divine nature,
40:15individual worth, knowledge, choice and accountability, good works, and integrity.
40:20Wow. In the Mormon Church, once a woman turns 13, we have this thing called Young
40:26Women's that you go to. Young Women's basically is learning about the church. They also do
40:30activities that you can bond with other girls and bring them together and form a community.
40:35It's so weird to hear it like that though, because like having it in a chant like that,
40:38I'm like, we are cool. Like that sounds so crazy. Oh, have you ever been to the temple?
40:42Of course I have. Oh, I forgot your first marriage. Yes. In Latter-day Saint religion,
40:50the temple is very sacred and holy and you need to live a certain way and you go through
40:56an interview process through your bishop to be worthy to enter the temple. Okay,
41:02here's the thing. I don't believe, but if I did, this freaks me out. You don't believe any of it?
41:05Do you believe the afterlife of it? Yeah, in a sense, like some of it for sure.
41:11I mean, it's core Christian values. Yes, exactly. I feel very much like resonate
41:15with the core Christian values, but like they weren't uniquely Mormon. Yeah. Yes,
41:18exactly. That's how I feel. So you don't believe that the Book of Mormon is true?
41:21Yeah. I feel like, how do we really know? Like there were no phones back then. There's no proof.
41:29But what I was going to say is I don't really believe, but this freaked me out is when I was
41:32trying to get my sealing canceled. My bishop was like, yeah, well, if you, if you don't get it
41:36canceled, technically like your son's sealed to your ex, cause it's his DNA and you're sealed to
41:40him. And I was like, ew. But that changed, that doesn't change. He's always sealed to him. Even
41:45if you break it. Within the church, if you don't get your sealing broken, your sealing is your
41:49marriage, then you're still married in the eyes of the church. And they believe that after you
41:53pass on, you're sealed forever. So technically I'm still sealed to my ex-husband, which means we
41:58would be together in the afterlife. And I wouldn't be with my current husband. Part of the reason it
42:02was really hard for my family when like Chase first left the church was because Chase had like
42:06removed his records, which means that I'm no longer sealed to my children. Cause essentially
42:11you need a man in order to be in the fire serene. And can't they have eternal, like multiple eternal
42:16families? Yeah. Why? You've been through the temple, right? To me? Yeah. Has ever, wait, you
42:21have, you have, I have, you have, you have, have not, have not. Nope. One day. You want to one
42:29day? If I marry Cam, I probably will for him. For him? Uh oh. I don't like that. How's that bad? I
42:39think that to me is definitely very harsh and I so over it. Going through the temple is something
42:45that's very important to Cam. It's something that he's always wanted for himself, for his future,
42:49for his future wife, for his future family. So it's something that's important to me because it's
42:53important to him. So I wasn't saying that I'm just doing this for Cam. I feel like I'm doing it for
42:58us. No, like I kind of wanted to like sit in my bed and budge out my phone for a sec. Are we
43:04changing for dinner? What are we wearing? Or just like casual?
43:34Wow. Thank you. Ooh, cute. We're going to the vampire apothecary for dinner. And I feel like
43:45this is the perfect send off from New Orleans because it's very vibey. It's a part of the
43:49culture. I don't feel like the Mormon church really likes stuff like this. Drinking blood. I'm
43:54not sure if that's against the word of wisdom, but if I had to guess it would be a no, but Hey,
43:59we're in NOLA, so we might as well live it up. Well, my question for you, since you're kind of
44:04like up and down with some of the people in the group, are you going to invite everyone to your
44:07Christmas party then? Like, is that a mom talk event or no? I'm throwing a little Christmas
44:11soiree for mom talk. And I'm really excited. I've put a lot of thought and intention into the
44:17night. I am just hoping that it's positive and that we're able to end the year on a high note
44:22by having the people there that I feel like genuinely deserve to be there. Brett and I are
44:27hosting that and he is like, not, he's equally as unhappy with Taylor as I am. And to me, it's
44:33like, just hit the road.
44:38Oh, the things.
44:40So I want to get you all started with our virgin blood bags right here. Also made with real
44:44virgin blood.
44:47Real virgin blood. Thank you.
44:50You gotta push it down.
44:51Cute. Thank you.
44:53I did these up.
44:54Looks just like my enema.
44:57But speaking of Taylor, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on like, if everyone feels like Taylor
45:04deserves to be here and she puts in the effort and the work and she's a good representation of what
45:09mom talk originally was meant to be like, where's everyone's head out with that?
45:17Taylor being a part of mom talk, it's affecting us on a negative level. And I'm not willing to have
45:23someone in the group that's willing to jeopardize the health of my business. And tonight, I really
45:30want people to be like, we understand where you're coming from. Like, yeah, we don't have any need
45:34for her to even stick around.
45:36That's hard, because I feel like there's times when things ebb and flow with everyone, but also
45:42health issues really put things into perspective. So I just feel like if she did apologize, and
45:47she's making changes, I have to like, okay, what am I going to do hold a grudge forever? You take
45:52it how you will. But as your friend, that wasn't an apology. And that was not humility coming in there
45:56and being like, I genuinely want to change. At that Saints and Sitter parties, what she should have
46:02done is literally come in and say, I fucked up. She sat there and threw me under the bus. And then
46:09you're going to remain the leader of mom talk like for what? Because she's the one who started it.
46:15But to see what she's capable of doing online to her friends and to people who have only loved and
46:20supported and been there for her is very problematic. And like, it hurts the group as a whole.
46:27For me right now, I'm just kind of at a loss because I do really want to give her the benefit of the
46:31doubt. But I'm still coming from a place of hurt that I'm trying to heal. So I think I'm just
46:37hypersensitive to things that happen now, like with her CMA post.
46:42At least we have this situation now to give context if she does it again, after her apology at Saints
46:47and Sitters moving forward. If anything else happens after that apology, then I'm like, okay. And again,
46:52and we have behavior to point to now that's like concrete that hurt all of us.
46:55So yeah, I kind of
46:56Chances like that. Do you give to someone before you go? You're literally a psychotic child. It's toxic as
47:02hell. And for me, as of now, I'm kind of like if Taylor's in, I'm out.
47:09I'm not gonna be serious. I'm not gonna be a part of mom talk anymore.
47:13We all have different relationships with her. And I think it's not fair to kick her out. I also don't think it's
47:18fair for you just to leave if she's in. But mom talk, we all move forward together in our friend group.
47:23Yeah, you know what I mean?
47:24Would that be fair for me to do though with the Whitney situation? If I was like, well, if Whitney's in, I'm out.
47:30But Whitney's life doesn't take over the group. Taylor is so, so self-centered and so selfish. And to me, it's
47:37like, we've had Whitney here this weekend. It's been great.
47:40For you though, if Taylor was here, it wouldn't have been bad for me, but it would have been bad for you.
47:44Well, the level of the offense matters. And to me, I think that Taylor's more of a liability in this situation,
47:50given the fact that she is the face.
47:52Do I think that Taylor has narcissistic tendencies? A thousand percent. But I'm still on thin ice with a lot of the
47:58women. So yeah, I'm going to zip my lips, but I do agree with Demi.
48:02And it's not that I need the spotlight, but it's like, is this a group of women empowering each other?
48:08Is this a group of women empowering each other and taking the turns on the spotlight? Or is this the Taylor show?
48:13I don't know. I haven't felt that way.
48:16It affects us when we go do events and who gets the opportunities and who gets interviews and stuff like that.
48:24And for me, I'm like, why are we putting this person on a pedestal? Why are we giving this person opportunities?
48:30Some opportunities we have are sometimes because of her, you know?
48:34That's fine, but I've learned too much about her now to continue riding the cloud.
48:39Like if this is part friendship, part business, like if this were a normal business, she'd be gone with the things that she's doing.
48:46Mom talk is way more than just business and work.
48:49This is definitely a side of Demi that I have not seen yet, and I don't know if I'm liking it.
48:53At this point, I don't know what she's willing to do to get to the top.
48:57So that's very concerning for me.
48:59Well, I think about the situation with you and Jesse, though.
49:01You weren't supporting her business, but she still is fine with that.
49:04That's different.
49:05How is it different?
49:06We're all a part of the same business.
49:07I'm not part of Jesse's business.
49:09I know, but you're her best friend.
49:11I wasn't her best friend at the time.
49:14I am so frustrated right now.
49:16It's like, are we going to do what's right, girls?
49:18What is mom talk if it's not on standing on business, standing on what's right and creating an environment that's healthy and conducive to success?
49:27I'm so, so disappointed in everyone.
49:30I feel like I'm on an island right now.
49:32This is the last thing I'll say is that you guys do what you will with it, but she genuinely tarnishes what mom talk was meant to be.
49:41I think Demi wants to kick Taylor out of mom talk because Taylor is a threat to her and it's the easiest solution to that problem.
49:48I don't know what's going on here, but I don't want to have to choose a side.
49:50I loved me and I think she's great.
49:53But how many friendships do you know where you have to be voted out or in?
49:57Manipulating the situation to be like, OK, I'm going to walk with Taylor's here isn't fair to the rest of us.
50:04I think that Demi secretly wants to be the leader of mom talk, but Taylor did start mom talk.
50:09We're all here because of her.
50:11I don't know what's going to happen.
50:18Demi said that, like, if you're in mom talk, then like she would like leave mom talk.
50:23What the hell is Leanne doing here?
50:25Let's get Taylor out of the picture because now I want to be Taylor.
50:29She needs to go to therapy and she needs to go be a fucking mom.
50:33I've done absolutely nothing to you.
50:35What? What have I done other than react to your poor behavior?
50:38Just a selfish bitch.
50:40I'm honestly kind of worried.
50:42I don't feel like mom talk right now is standing for anything that we originally stood for.
50:46I feel like Demi lied to me and I don't want to say too much, but more happened than what she's leading.