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00:00 Next, we have a question about Amma's health.
00:03 We are talking about the most important issue related to Amma's health.
00:08 It is related to cancer of lungs.
00:10 It is considered to be the most deadly cancer in the world.
00:15 Every year, 1.7 million people die from this disease.
00:21 Every year, every 5th death from the death due to cancer of lungs.
00:29 So, in the first week of August, we celebrate the week of cancer of lungs.
00:35 So that you can get the information about the treatment of this disease.
00:40 And what are the common symptoms of this disease?
00:44 Basically, the first thing is that whatever the signs and symptoms are, what to do?
00:49 Because we are very worried.
00:52 First, we don't like to go to the doctor.
00:54 If you have a cough, you take a syrup or Google.
00:59 If you Google, you face the same problem.
01:01 I think I have all the diseases.
01:03 Google will tell you all the scary things.
01:06 And it will take you to the extreme.
01:10 When you go to the doctor, especially for this,
01:15 then you know that there is a 2-week cough.
01:17 It is written everywhere that it can be related to TB.
01:20 Then the disease progresses a lot.
01:23 What should be done?
01:25 What is awareness?
01:26 What was the theme this year?
01:27 Let's find out.
01:28 Dr. Adnan Abdul Jabbar, President of Society of Medical Oncology of Pakistan is with us.
01:33 So, Sadaf Abdul Jabbar is also with us and Dr. Adnan Abdul Jabbar.
01:36 We share the same surname.
01:37 Assalamu Alaikum. Good morning to you.
01:39 Wa Alaikum Assalam.
01:40 Thank you once again for inviting me.
01:42 So, tell us what is the theme this year?
01:48 So, when we talk about August 1st, we think of lung cancer.
01:53 Just like we talk about October, we think of breast cancer.
01:57 So, I think it is really important.
01:59 It is very important that you invited me here today to talk about lung cancer.
02:05 The first day of August is talked about in relation to lung cancer awareness.
02:11 Although the whole month is of November,
02:14 but we celebrate August 1st so that people are aware that it is a fatal disease.
02:22 And we have such methods with which we can diagnose this cancer in the early stage.
02:28 I always tell people that whenever they talk about cancer,
02:31 they think that now cancer is over, my life is over.
02:35 But I say that cancer is not incurable like other diseases.
02:40 It can be completely treated with only one condition.
02:44 Early diagnosis means that it should be diagnosed soon and it should be treated completely.
02:49 So, lung cancer awareness is important today according to its screening.
02:54 And if we talk about Pakistan,
02:56 because it is being said that it is the most dangerous in the various forms of cancer,
03:01 lung cancer, breast cancer.
03:04 To what extent is it in Pakistan?
03:06 If you had talked to me a few months ago,
03:10 unfortunately I could not have answered you this question.
03:13 Because there is no national cancer registry in Pakistan.
03:16 We do not have any government data available to tell which cancer is the most in Pakistan.
03:23 Which disease has more burden?
03:26 Which disease is more in which area?
03:29 Many centers have collected this data from their own efforts.
03:36 And recently we published a paper in which we have seen the top cancers in the last 5 years.
03:44 Lung cancer comes in the 5th position.
03:47 We have the highest cancer in breast, which is about 20%.
03:51 After that, there is head and neck cancer.
03:54 If we talk about men, the cancer in the face is the top cancer in men.
03:59 Which is not found anywhere else in the world.
04:02 And it is preventable.
04:04 It is self-caused.
04:06 We create it ourselves.
04:08 So, this is also a difference, self-caused.
04:10 Absolutely.
04:11 Lung cancer comes in the 5th position.
04:13 Lung cancer is about 6%.
04:16 And we call it lung cancer because it is also one of those cancers which is self-imposed.
04:23 The methods of our life in which smoking is the most common.
04:29 But I would like to know your opinion on this.
04:33 5 years ago or 10 years ago, we did not talk about air quality index.
04:39 We talked about PM2 particles.
04:44 We talked about pollution.
04:46 We talked about the smoke coming from factories.
04:48 We talked about the smoke coming from cars.
04:50 So, these factors are also unavoidable apart from smoking.
04:53 Absolutely.
04:54 And this is also a part of it.
04:56 This is also a part of it.
04:57 If you go to Bunch Road, if you see, the trees there are dead.
05:01 There is a black spot on them.
05:03 Not a single leaf grows.
05:05 Similarly, the people living there who are working on the road, their breasts have become black.
05:11 If you do surgery, the non-smoker has a pink lung.
05:15 But the smoker has a black lung.
05:18 So, all these particles that you are talking about, are the reason for cancer.
05:23 And this is the reason that Pakistan is now coming to those countries where the rate of cancer is increasing.
05:28 Is the aggravating factor more smoking?
05:31 Yes, smoking and all these air pollution, all these things are the main factor.
05:37 People are very afraid.
05:39 People are very afraid.
05:40 And then they google it.
05:42 Then they go for self-medication.
05:44 At what stage should people be alarmed?
05:46 So, look, I say one thing that there are many symptoms.
05:49 Many diseases have overlapping symptoms.
05:52 If I talk about lung cancer, then cough is such a common symptom.
05:55 We have been coughing since childhood.
05:58 Today, there is a cold, tomorrow there is a flu.
06:00 But something that is persisting for more than a month,
06:04 it means that now you should consult a good doctor, a specialist.
06:09 And in that, our information was that TB was more than two weeks ago.
06:13 Okay, the treatment has started.
06:14 Even now, in Pakistan, many cases come in the late stage due to TB.
06:18 People think that it is only TB.
06:20 So, not only do we have to be aware of people, but also of our general physicians.
06:24 Because they refer.
06:26 They should refer.
06:27 They refer from a long time.
06:29 So, I think awareness is not only of our general public, but also of general physicians.
06:35 That if something is going on for more than a month and if you are not able to understand, then refer a specialist.
06:41 Because of this, it will not come in the late stage and someone's life can be saved.
06:45 And now, let's assume that we get an idea, we start feeling like this.
06:49 So, what should be done first?
06:51 People run away from biopsy, tests and things.
06:54 See, I was always talking before the show, we can treat the disease, but we cannot treat the myths.
07:01 Myths, unfortunately, have increased so much in our community, which you talked about, about biopsy.
07:07 We say, if iron is applied, it will spread, if air is applied, it will spread.
07:12 It is not like that.
07:13 People come to us 60%, 70% from stage 3, stage 4.
07:17 Now, these are the people who have not yet had a biopsy.
07:20 If cancer spreads through biopsy, then these people do not come in stage 4.
07:25 Cancer does not spread through biopsy.
07:27 Absolutely, cancer does not spread through biopsy, by applying iron.
07:31 This is the character of cancer, it is its own property that it will spread.
07:38 In that, cells will regenerate, multiply themselves.
07:42 Absolutely, it is like a car whose brake has failed, it will grow, it will keep running until it crashes somewhere.
07:50 And in the same way, cancer spreads.
07:52 Okay, but tell me, in this, the most important role of a physician is that you take yourself to the doctor, then he will refer you.
07:59 But at the initial level, to differentiate between TB and lung cancer, what tests are there?
08:05 So, look, he can only tell you a knowledge, and I think in the interest of time, we will not be able to discuss it in much detail.
08:12 Because he only tells you the tests.
08:14 There are some lab tests in which we do cultures, there are some other tests, blood tests, on the basis of which we can tell that my suspicion is more.
08:23 X-ray is not known?
08:24 X-ray is not known, we also do CT scans, in which sometimes we see a lesion, a rasooli, which can be both.
08:32 So, that thing, a knowledge, an expert will only be able to tell that this is TB or this is cancer.
08:38 Okay, when people are also suggested treatment, at that stage they run away.
08:43 Absolutely.
08:44 They say, we do not want to get chemo done, we do not want radiation done.
08:47 Yes, surgery is fine, but then what happens is that they discuss with people,
08:52 people say, if you get chemo done, your quality of life will be spoiled, just leave it like this, leave it to Allah.
08:58 So, this is the biggest problem, as an Oncologist, the thing with which I fight, one is that we have spiritual treatment.
09:06 Yes, yes.
09:07 Along with that, the alternative medicines, I often say that you can perform ablution and offer Salat, but if you perform ablution and do surgery, then there will be a problem.
09:18 You need to wash your hands, the way a proper surgeon washes his hands.
09:24 So, your ablution is spiritual purification and the surgeon who washes his hands before surgery, he needs his worldly, physical needs.
09:33 You cannot replace that.
09:35 So, when someone has a disease, I say, you must involve Allah, because faith gives you strength.
09:41 Without a doubt.
09:42 It has an effect in prayers, but along with prayers, medicine is also needed.
09:46 Tell me one thing, that here is a big thing, that it is diagnosed, after that where should we go for affordable treatment?
09:53 See, Pakistan is the only country, I will say, where we are very blessed.
09:58 Here, apart from self-pay and government pay, a third pay is from the people who give us donations.
10:05 Indus Hospital, Shaukat Khanum Hospital, Kiran has patient aid, Jinnah has so much aid, even Alamgir Welfare Place.
10:14 Yes, which provides free treatment to the patient.
10:18 I think, the thing that we are facing the most in Pakistan, are these myths.
10:24 That if you get a chemo done, you will die.
10:26 I saw so and so, he got a chemo done and he was very bad.
10:30 In the second chemo, this happened, this happened.
10:32 Absolutely.
10:33 You cannot compare notes.
10:35 Your one son is not like another son.
10:38 Your one daughter is not like another daughter.
10:41 So, how is your one cancer like another cancer?
10:43 So, we have created awareness.
10:46 Thank you so much Dr. Adnan, when Mr. Barz was with us and gave us great information.
10:51 He said a very good thing, that along with treatment, along with prayers, medicine, both things should be taken together.
10:57 So, you can treat yourself perfectly.
10:59 And keep getting tested, after reaching the age of 30, I am about to reach, I will get tested.