#14august2023 #azadi #bakhabarsavera
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00:00 Yes. What an amazing and noble speech.
00:04 -Let's talk about freedom. -Yes.
00:05 It's the spring of green, red and yellow.
00:07 But as I said, we have to re-live our history.
00:12 How is it possible?
00:14 -History is the biggest migration. -Definitely.
00:16 India and Pakistan were one country.
00:19 But in 1947, they became two countries.
00:22 The whole story and struggle behind it,
00:25 what wisdom and sacrifices were made,
00:28 it's important to remember it.
00:30 Definitely. If we don't remember it, how will we remember
00:33 the difficulties we faced?
00:35 Not everyone gets a free space.
00:37 -Do we have a report on this? -We have shown a report.
00:41 But we would like to talk about it in the studio.
00:43 We have with us, from Karachi University,
00:46 from the Department of History,
00:47 Assistant Professor, Dr. Muiz Khan.
00:50 We will ask him.
00:51 He has covered history very closely.
00:55 -He will tell us. Hello, Dr. Muiz. -Hello.
00:57 -Happy Independence Day. -You too.
01:00 It's been 75 years, but it's important to remind the younger generation
01:08 how Pakistan came into existence.
01:11 -And it wasn't easy. -Yes.
01:13 You are right.
01:16 Pakistan is a unique example of the world.
01:20 Because its existence and creation is very different.
01:25 Because this country wasn't like the European countries of the past.
01:30 Like France, where the French were in one area,
01:35 and then it became a country.
01:37 Like Germany, the Unification of 1871,
01:40 Italy, the Unification, and the Italian people.
01:43 This region was separated from the other regions
01:48 and got its freedom.
01:51 And the subcontinent, India, is a historical example.
01:56 When people became Muslims,
01:59 and they couldn't live their lives according to Islam,
02:03 they faced problems, political issues,
02:05 and then the movement of freedom started, and this country was created.
02:09 So, its creation is a unique example of the world.
02:13 And our founding fathers,
02:16 like Nikah-e-Azam, Ali Aqeel-e-Khan, Allama Iqbal,
02:20 and others,
02:22 who talked about the separation of nations,
02:25 and the two-nation theory.
02:28 So, this is a series of events,
02:31 where Muslim nationalism was first generated,
02:34 and then the political rights movement started.
02:39 And then we saw how Muslim political rights
02:44 started within India.
02:47 And when it was seen that within India,
02:50 we wouldn't be able to work with Congress or other political groups,
02:55 they said, "You have to get freedom."
02:57 It must have been very difficult,
02:58 because not only the British,
03:00 but also being separated from India.
03:03 Look, there were two aspects.
03:04 One was that the British left.
03:06 The British left because there was a movement in the world,
03:11 which you could call decolonization.
03:14 Colonization lasted for 400-500 years, and then decolonization.
03:17 In decolonization, the colonial powers were retreating.
03:23 Retreating because it was not manageable.
03:26 But the problem was that the Congress Party,
03:28 which was India's largest party,
03:30 had to be separated from the region.
03:35 Because even if the British agreed,
03:37 how could they separate them from Congress?
03:38 So, that movement,
03:41 the real sacrifices that our elders,
03:44 the Muslim elders of this region,
03:47 made in the name of their lives,
03:49 and especially in the case of migration,
03:52 that was the reason why they were separating.
03:54 Tell me one thing.
03:56 It is obvious that our journey
03:58 is less than that of other nations in the world.
04:01 Freedom is achieved with great difficulty.
04:04 Our journey, for example,
04:07 if you take the example of America or France,
04:09 the way they celebrate their freedom,
04:12 the way they celebrate their freedom,
04:14 or the places where they are in the journey of freedom,
04:17 how do you compare our journey to that?
04:20 Our journey has been very difficult.
04:24 The reason for that is that,
04:25 in the example of America, there is a very important point,
04:27 I want to tell you,
04:28 the public should know this from your point of view,
04:31 that when America was liberated,
04:33 they announced their freedom in 1776.
04:36 They were finally liberated in 1781 when the British left.
04:41 From that time till 1920,
04:46 that is, for about 150 years,
04:50 America adopted a policy,
04:54 which was later adopted,
04:56 but in the beginning, it was the doctrine of Monroe Doctrine,
05:00 in which they said that they would go on isolationism,
05:02 that they would not interfere in any world issue,
05:05 they would concentrate on their own development, stability, and economy,
05:10 and that they would not go anywhere.
05:14 After 150 years, after the First World War,
05:17 they came, but then they went back.
05:20 After that, from the time of the Second World War,
05:22 they have been on interventionism,
05:23 these are the theories.
05:25 The purpose of saying this is that they have been present in themselves.
05:27 With Pakistan, our ruler,
05:29 Azam Mahmood Ali Jinnah,
05:31 he said that we do not want to make friends or enemies,
05:36 we want to be neutral with everyone,
05:37 and we will be neutral,
05:39 so that we can also be ourselves.
05:42 With us, the policy is a different matter,
05:47 but the result was that we were immediately thrown into the international arena,
05:53 or we were pulled.
05:54 So, the grass got wet in the fight of those elephants.
05:58 Thank you so much for being with us.
06:01 Thank you so much.
06:02 The whole thing is that now the ruler is proving this right,
06:06 in the sense that the relations are not of friendship or enmity,
06:09 but of interests, and economic interests,
06:11 and mostly the world is driving on this.