Graham and Dave look over the worst horror film sequels ever made in this week's show...
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00:00 (upbeat music)
00:02 - Hello and welcome to Not Everyone's a Film Critic,
00:08 a vodcast or a podcast brought to yourself by The Scotsman
00:11 and presented by myself as always, Graeme Fogg.
00:14 I'm joined as always by Dave Hepburn.
00:16 Dave, my cat's making some noise in the background,
00:19 so if you hear that meow, it's the cat, but how are you?
00:23 - I'm doing very well, Graeme, yeah.
00:24 We've got a slight issue this weekend
00:26 that we haven't actually seen any films,
00:29 which is a slight problem for a film vodcast program,
00:32 but we can chat about the films that there are out there
00:34 before we do our topic of the day.
00:38 - Welcome to this, welcome to our film review show
00:41 where we review nothing at all.
00:43 - What I'm gonna say is that if there's any week
00:46 where this happened, then this has never happened before,
00:48 but if there's any week where this should have happened,
00:50 it should be this week 'cause we're at a weird point
00:53 in cinema in the year where, because of "Barbie"
00:56 and "Oppenheimer," which we've talked about in length,
00:59 there's a lot of kind of middling films out
01:02 that seem to have been slightly buried by the studios.
01:05 I mean, things like, I'm just having a wee look
01:07 at what's out at the moment.
01:08 There's "Gran Turismo," which I think everyone agrees
01:11 is an absolute clunker.
01:13 There's "Haunted Mansion," which seems to have been
01:16 kind of snuck out, no one seems particularly interested in it.
01:19 There's "Meg," too, "The Trench,"
01:20 which is where our conversation topic's gonna come from
01:24 this week.
01:25 And again, I don't think anyone's massively excited
01:27 about "The Meg," too.
01:29 There's "Blue Beetle," which I think of all
01:31 of the underwhelming-sounding superhero films
01:34 of the last few years, I've never heard of "Blue Beetle,"
01:37 and I quite like superhero films,
01:39 and I quite like the DC universe, never heard of "Blue Beetle."
01:42 That must be the worst superhero name ever, "Blue Beetle."
01:46 What does he do, does he have a hard shell and flies?
01:48 I don't know.
01:50 - I mean, it's like, it's a really crap version
01:53 of "Spider-Man."
01:54 - I'm Spider-Man, I'm used to the spider,
01:56 I can fire webs and climb things, what do you do?
01:58 - I just, I'm shiny, I guess?
02:01 - I can hide under a rock, I'm good at hiding under rocks
02:04 and crawling up the walls quite slowly, yeah.
02:07 It's also great, and then there's "Strays" as well,
02:09 which I think, we were talking about "Strays" before,
02:11 which is the comedy film about dogs,
02:13 where the trailer's been everywhere,
02:15 and the trailer looks absolutely hilarious.
02:17 I mean, every time the trailer comes up,
02:19 I laugh a good five or six times,
02:21 but you get the feeling that every single one
02:23 of those jokes, that is every joke that is in the film,
02:26 otherwise the film's gonna be really, really poor.
02:28 Maybe I'll be proved wrong, because I'm gonna go and see it.
02:30 And I think you were thinking about going to see the,
02:33 is it called "The Blackening?"
02:34 - "The Blackening."
02:35 - "The Blackening," which actually does look good,
02:37 and I like the idea of that,
02:37 so that's something that I want to go and see.
02:39 But yeah, it's kind of a weird period for cinema.
02:43 The kids are going back to school,
02:45 so I just don't think anybody's really releasing anything
02:48 which is particularly good at the moment.
02:50 - I mean, I think "Strays,"
02:52 like, I really like the whole idea of it.
02:54 Like, I like movies about dogs and cats,
02:56 and I like that kind of stuff,
02:58 because obviously animals are far better than humans,
03:00 apart from beetles, evidently.
03:02 But I think, like, my main worry, and this is no offense,
03:07 'cause people can make bad movies and make good ones,
03:09 people can make good movies and make bad ones,
03:11 but the fact that it's being brought, I think,
03:13 from the creative minds of Ted and Cocaine Bear
03:17 worries me a bit, because I was quite excited for both
03:21 and didn't enjoy either.
03:22 - Ted's was a weird film, wasn't it?
03:25 'Cause Ted's, I was excited by it too.
03:26 I thought it was a pretty nasty film,
03:28 like, not nasty in a funny way,
03:29 it was just a mean-spirited, like, one-joke film.
03:33 It just wasn't enjoyable in any way, shape, or form.
03:36 And obviously, we've covered Cocaine Bear before.
03:39 It's just a dreadful film.
03:40 So yeah, it kind of feels like a film
03:42 that they're getting people to go and watch the film
03:45 because of the trailer and 'cause the poster,
03:48 but they're not particularly worried
03:49 about whether people are gonna like the film
03:51 when they get to the cinema,
03:52 which was a classic thing about Cocaine Bear.
03:54 Cocaine Bear was all about getting people in cinema,
03:55 and it worked.
03:56 No one had fun, no one enjoyed it,
03:58 but I suppose they did the job
03:59 of getting people into the cinema.
04:01 The exact opposite of The Pope's Exorcist,
04:03 which got people in cinema and made them love cinema
04:06 and fall in love with film again.
04:08 - You know what I'm really pleased with?
04:10 Everyone knows about our love affair
04:11 with Pope's Exorcist, right?
04:13 What I really like about Pope's Exorcist is that suddenly,
04:17 'cause I followed every cast member,
04:19 obviously we've had the producer, Jeff, on here.
04:21 I feel that everyone that was related with that
04:23 I've started following on Twitter,
04:24 which is still called Twitter, not ex, it's Twitter.
04:26 - Definitely, always will be.
04:28 - If you want me to start calling it ex,
04:30 then I will start calling it Grimes.
04:33 In terms of the,
04:34 got a lot of layers there.
04:39 In terms of Pope's Exorcist, it's blew up.
04:43 People across the globe are really liking it.
04:45 I believe the Asian market really took to it as well.
04:49 And so it should, what a great movie.
04:52 Interesting fact, talk about Gran Turismo.
04:54 Now we've poo-pooed on it a little bit
04:55 and I'm not gonna go see it.
04:56 Jerry Halliwell's in it, which I cannot understand.
04:59 Look, I like David Harbour.
05:03 I like David Harbour in Stranger Things.
05:05 I think every film I've seen him in has been absolutely crap.
05:08 He was terrible in Hellboy and I'm a huge Hellboy fan.
05:12 He destroyed it, I hated that remake of it, it was awful.
05:16 But Gran Turismo, all right,
05:18 it's not got rated very fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.
05:23 And this, you know, Rotten Tomatoes,
05:24 some people like it, some people don't.
05:26 However, it's got 98% on audience reviews.
05:31 - So it's one of these kind of critic-proof films
05:35 that people go and see it and say,
05:37 and also can I just say,
05:38 I think you're being slightly unfair on David Harbour
05:40 because he did Violent Night,
05:41 which we both very much enjoyed.
05:43 - Yeah, that was a good film to be fair.
05:44 But I just don't think,
05:46 'cause I think he's a good actor.
05:48 I think he's chose some pretty naff movies.
05:51 - Yeah, I would agree, I would agree.
05:53 - You don't do Hellboy after Ron Perlman.
05:55 Ron Perlman does Hellboy.
05:57 - Yes, you're absolutely right.
05:58 Yes, yes, it's ridiculous to do,
06:00 which is actually gonna bring us on almost to our subject.
06:03 - Before we move, talk about driving movies
06:07 and David Harbour and Ron Perlman.
06:10 He's took on a driving movie after the best drive movie,
06:13 which also starred Ron Perlman, which is of course, Drive.
06:17 - Drive.
06:18 - A taxi driver, depending on how you see
06:20 the driving situation.
06:22 But yes, as you said, topic of the week this week
06:25 is kinda based on the fact that a lot of rubbish
06:27 is coming out and I cannot quite believe
06:30 the Meg Two has been made.
06:32 Also, can I just point out,
06:34 the most ridiculous horror movie I've ever seen
06:38 in my life is The Nun and I like the insidious world
06:42 to an extent, but The Nun was awful
06:46 and it felt like it was meant to be awful
06:48 and they're bringing out the second one.
06:50 - Yes, but it's just, I think it just gets people,
06:54 so no, I think The Meg Two will probably be
06:56 quite successful.
06:57 I was interested, 'cause we were talking last week
06:59 how it has been directed by Ben Kingsley,
07:02 not Ben Kingsley, Ben Wheatley.
07:05 It'd be very different if it was directed by Ben Kingsley.
07:08 But directed by Ben Wheatley, who's a kind of auteur,
07:10 he's kind of independent filmmaker,
07:12 but then he did Rebecca for, I think, Netflix
07:14 and now he's done Meg Two.
07:15 And I was actually reading about why he did it,
07:17 'cause I was quite fascinated.
07:18 And it was quite refreshing, actually.
07:19 What he said is, "You know what?
07:20 "I watched The Meg, I think with his kids."
07:23 And he said, "You know, basically, we really enjoyed it.
07:25 "So I thought that might be quite fun."
07:26 Which is fair enough, isn't it, when you think about it?
07:28 I think I get very judgmental about such things,
07:30 but why shouldn't he just make a big, silly horror film
07:33 if he wants to?
07:34 I mean, just as long as he goes back
07:35 and makes good films again.
07:36 But I just think, I mean, it was rubbish, The Meg One.
07:39 I didn't really enjoy The Meg One whatsoever.
07:41 And I will end up watching The Meg Two,
07:43 but I'm not gonna go to the cinema for it.
07:44 I'm gonna get it on DVD or something,
07:46 or I'll rent it on Netflix.
07:48 - It will not be worth it.
07:51 - Yeah. - You have to agree that.
07:52 Time is going too fast for my liking,
07:54 and if I lose two hours of that, I'll never get it back.
07:59 - Exactly.
08:00 You can do something better with your life.
08:01 - Yeah, there's so many better things.
08:03 But the topic of the week this week
08:05 was worst ever horror sequels, because let's be honest,
08:09 I'm a massive horror fan,
08:10 but if you get a bad horror sequel,
08:13 or you get a bad sequel, it tends to be a horror.
08:16 - Yes.
08:17 - And I'm gonna throw in something controversial,
08:18 which I think people will be like,
08:19 "Well, no, it's not the worst."
08:20 But it is the worst, but not in a bad way,
08:24 which I'll come to.
08:25 And I think people will be like,
08:26 "Oh my God, I can't believe you said that."
08:28 But I'm saying it.
08:29 Like, I'm gonna say it,
08:30 'cause it is the worst sequel ever for multiple reasons,
08:33 but I still love it.
08:35 However, I'll let you have first choice.
08:38 What are we picking, a top three, three to one?
08:39 - We're doing a top three.
08:40 I've got a top three here.
08:41 And they're all quite personal choices.
08:43 You know how you Google something,
08:44 you Google what are the worst ones
08:46 to try to get you inspired?
08:47 I've not picked any of those,
08:48 'cause I mean, there's lots of bad sequels,
08:51 but these are ones which have genuinely upset me.
08:54 So no particular order.
08:56 I'm gonna start with arguably the funniest one.
08:59 Everyone says that "Jaws 3" is a bad sequel.
09:02 People seem to forget about "Jaws 4, The Revenge."
09:06 Have you seen "Jaws 4, The Revenge?"
09:08 So the plot of "Jaws 4, The Revenge,"
09:11 I was just refreshing my mind.
09:12 So this is basically Michael Caine stars in this.
09:14 And Michael Caine says himself,
09:16 at that point in his career,
09:18 he was just wanting to go places
09:19 which were nice and sunny to make films.
09:21 He didn't care what films were.
09:22 So this was filmed in the Bahamas.
09:25 And Michael Caine said, "Yeah, it's great.
09:26 "I just go to the Bahamas for six months.
09:27 "What am I gonna be doing, making a film?
09:28 "I don't care what it is."
09:29 But anyway, the plot of "Jaws, The Revenge"
09:31 is absolutely staggering.
09:33 Basically, so the policeman Brody has died.
09:38 He's died of a heart attack.
09:40 And his widow is still living in the same town,
09:45 the same seaside town.
09:46 We see her, she's grieving for her husband.
09:51 Before you know it, her youngest son
09:53 has been eaten by a shark.
09:55 I mean, it can't be the original "Jaws," can it?
09:57 'Cause that was the, but anyway,
09:58 youngest son's been eaten by a shark.
10:00 At the funeral, her other son comes home from the Bahamas
10:05 and says, "Mom, listen, why don't you fly 3,000 miles
10:08 "and come and live with us in the Bahamas
10:10 "away from this horrible shark?"
10:12 And the Bahamas, surrounded by water, famously.
10:15 Flies 3,000 miles to the Bahamas.
10:17 Literally, they get off the plane.
10:18 The sharks, they're going, "Oh yeah, followed you."
10:20 It's a psychic shark that's followed her
10:23 to get revenge, trying to eat all of her family.
10:25 It is so stupid.
10:26 It's absolutely dumb as a bag of hammers.
10:28 It features a psychic shark.
10:29 It's got two different endings,
10:30 both of which are absolutely awful.
10:32 It is a terrible film, but you know what?
10:34 It's worth watching with a couple of drinks
10:36 'cause it's really, really funny.
10:38 Michael Caine just looks like
10:39 he just doesn't know where he is.
10:41 I think he's just drunk half the time
10:42 'cause he's having a lovely time in the Bahamas.
10:44 But anyway, "Jaws 4, The Revenge" is a staggeringly bad sequel
10:47 and having just seen "Jaws," the original,
10:49 in the cinema a couple of weeks back,
10:51 it genuinely is just one of the absolutely classic films.
10:53 So "Jaws 4," for me, that's my first choice
10:56 of terrible horror sequels.
10:57 - I think my number three is,
11:01 and I don't know if mine's in an order.
11:02 I know my number one is,
11:03 but I don't know if two or three is in an order,
11:04 so I'll just say it's not.
11:06 But I think this might surprise you quite a bit,
11:07 but this is because of how much I love the original
11:10 'cause I think the original does nothing like it.
11:13 It was banned until 2009.
11:15 I'm a big fan of it.
11:16 It's kind of one of those movies where if you see it,
11:18 like, people go, "Oh my God, I can't believe you like that."
11:20 But it's just a video nasty,
11:21 and I've brought up one video nasty,
11:22 and I love films that really, really shock,
11:25 and that one really does,
11:26 and it makes people feel so disgusted when they come out.
11:28 And I felt like the second one was just not needed.
11:31 And it was made, and it's like, all right, okay.
11:34 And it follows on from the first one,
11:35 and it doesn't really, I just didn't enjoy it that much,
11:39 and I don't think it was necessary.
11:40 "Necromantic 2."
11:41 - Ah, that is interesting.
11:44 That's a surprise.
11:45 I thought that you quite liked it.
11:47 Not really.
11:48 - I don't hate it.
11:49 Like, and it's actually not the worst horror sequel
11:51 I've ever seen in my life,
11:53 but it was nowhere near what we got in "Necromantic 1."
11:57 - Yeah, you see, disappointment's bad, isn't it?
11:59 Particularly when you have something you love,
12:00 and then even if it's not really bad,
12:02 it's almost worse if it's just mediocre.
12:04 'Cause yeah, you're right.
12:05 You just think, "Why did you bother delivering it?
12:07 It's just pointless."
12:08 - Yeah, and you don't look at a perspective of...
12:13 You don't look at the movie itself,
12:18 and you know what's coming, in a way.
12:19 And I know that sounds daft,
12:20 but you kind of feel like that was the same with "Number 1,"
12:22 because it's called "Necromantic,"
12:23 but it didn't really do anything out of the ordinary
12:26 that "Necromantic 1" didn't do.
12:28 So it wasn't as shocking.
12:29 It wasn't as much as the video on "Nasty."
12:31 The scene where she chops the head off is like,
12:33 "Eh, okay, you've done something odd."
12:38 It's not as endearing as...
12:40 Well, the first one's not endearing at all,
12:42 but the main character, you think, "What an idiot."
12:45 Like, that's my cat.
12:47 You think, "What an idiot."
12:49 And it just doesn't work for me as well as the first one.
12:52 It's not a bad movie,
12:53 if you like video nasties and horrors,
12:56 but in comparison to the first one,
12:57 it's like 10% of the good of the first one, if that.
13:01 And it wasn't really needed.
13:04 Says me who owns the Blu-ray restore edition.
13:06 - I think your cat completely disagrees.
13:09 I think your cat is a big "Necromantic 2" fan.
13:12 I think that cat, just to say it was great,
13:14 say, "No, it's better than the original.
13:15 What are you talking about, Graham?"
13:18 - He just wants...
13:19 - Cat doesn't know film.
13:19 Doesn't know film.
13:21 (laughing)
13:23 - Number two, Dave.
13:24 - Well, my second one, so I'm a big Stephen King fan.
13:27 Talks about that a lot.
13:29 Back in the day when there weren't so many,
13:30 I prided myself on going to see
13:32 every single Stephen King film there was.
13:34 I used to have them all on video,
13:35 then I had them all on DVD and everything else.
13:38 But then Stephen King films,
13:39 there's something about Stephen King films.
13:42 They always spawn lots of sequels,
13:44 and they tend to spawn very, very bad sequels.
13:46 And one of the biggest culprits of this
13:48 is "Children of the Corn."
13:50 Now, do you know how many
13:51 "Children of the Corn" sequels there are?
13:53 Guess how many "Children of the Corn" sequels there are.
13:56 - Is there about six?
13:58 - There's 10 "Children of the Corn" sequels.
14:01 So there's a total of 11 films.
14:03 - A bit like "Hellraiser" and "Leprechaun."
14:05 "Hellraiser's" got 10 now?
14:07 - Yeah, I think "Children of the Corn" is equal.
14:09 I think that it's one of the most sequels.
14:11 But the crazy thing about that
14:12 is that "Hellraiser's" got some good ones,
14:13 "Nightmare on Elm Street" has got lots of sequels.
14:15 "Children of the Corn,"
14:16 there was one pretty good original film,
14:18 which is a nightmarish thing.
14:19 I mean, creepy kids coming out of corn.
14:22 Hello? That's really scary.
14:24 Just thinking about that is really scary.
14:26 As the first film was pretty good,
14:27 every single other film in the series has been awful.
14:31 I mean, not slightly good or average, every single one.
14:33 And you think they get to the eighth sequel
14:36 and some Hollywood executive goes,
14:38 "You know what we need now?
14:39 We need another 'Children of the Corn' movie."
14:42 But the pick of the pops for this,
14:43 and if you want some more of that, please,
14:47 more awful horror.
14:49 "Children of the Corn" number five,
14:52 beautifully called "Fields of Terror,"
14:55 is the absolute pick of the pops
14:56 because at that point,
14:58 they were genuinely trying to chuck some money at it.
15:00 They're going, "Listen, we've had four sequels.
15:02 We've all had a bit of a disaster with this.
15:04 Let's chuck some money.
15:05 Let's get Eva Mendes.
15:07 Let's get David Carradine.
15:10 Let's get some decent special effects."
15:12 They forgot the plot.
15:14 As in, when you watch this film,
15:16 it makes absolutely no sense.
15:17 Not in a fun way, like they're doing it intentionally.
15:19 The plot just makes no sense.
15:20 It's like they've missed out.
15:22 - Forgot it or lost it?
15:24 - I don't know.
15:24 Both probably.
15:25 - Lost the plot.
15:26 - But anyway, it is genuinely worth watching
15:30 because you just think, how did this get made?
15:32 And when it was made, how did they even release it?
15:34 I mean, they must've looked at it and gone,
15:36 "This just makes any narrative sense whatsoever.
15:38 I cannot tell you what the plot was,
15:40 even if I'd watched it yesterday."
15:41 So my second choice, but again, one to genuinely,
15:45 I mean, I'm not sure if you can even get it anywhere now,
15:47 but try "Sea Children of Corn 5."
15:49 And again, that would be a good sort of double bill
15:52 with "Jaws 4."
15:54 Just two genuinely horrible.
15:55 I think they're both about 90 minutes long.
15:57 A really good, bad film, double bill.
15:59 So yeah, my second choice.
16:00 "Children of the Corn 5, Fields of Terror."
16:03 - This is what's gonna annoy people on my number two,
16:08 'cause people are gonna go, "That's not terrible."
16:11 But before I tell you what it is,
16:13 and then I will do that iconic line from the movie,
16:16 so you know what it is.
16:18 It's a sequel that isn't a sequel,
16:20 and yet it's called number two.
16:22 So it's got nothing to do with the first movie.
16:25 In any way, shape, size, or form.
16:28 It's horrendous.
16:29 It has the worst acting I've ever seen in my life.
16:32 The scary element of it is hilarious.
16:37 And I mean, it makes like leprechaun look terrifying.
16:40 And it's got the iconic line of,
16:44 "No!"
16:44 Troll two.
16:49 - What film?
16:52 - What is the line?
16:54 They're eating her.
16:55 Oh my, oh no, it's "Oh my God."
16:57 I thought, "Oh, I've got it completely wrong."
16:59 They're eating her.
17:00 Oh my God.
17:01 And the guy looks like he's not shocked at all
17:09 that these troll are eating people and mincemeat.
17:12 But the reason it's a bad sequel is
17:14 they've called it troll two.
17:15 It's got nothing to do with troll one.
17:17 - Amazing.
17:18 Another good film.
17:20 I think people should go and watch all these films.
17:21 This is an amazing weekend to film for somebody.
17:24 - What's the line in troll two?
17:26 I don't know whether we can swear on this,
17:28 but there's a good line in it
17:30 where the doctor says you can't
17:33 - Something. - Weed hospitality.
17:36 It's like, what?
17:39 I'm aware that I also said I had an iconic line
17:41 and got the iconic line wrong,
17:42 but it's been a while since I've seen it, to be fair to me.
17:44 But just as a sequel, it's terrible,
17:47 but it's so bad, it's good.
17:49 But if you're talking bad movies, it is bad.
17:51 And that's what I mean by it's gonna be controversial
17:53 'cause it's awful.
17:54 But it's got nothing to do with the first one.
17:55 So it's a sequel, it's not even a sequel,
17:57 but it's called itself a sequel.
17:59 It's like "Nightmare on Elm Street" being like
18:01 "Nightmare on Elm Street 2" without Freddy.
18:04 Freddy got nothing really to do with it.
18:06 And the first one didn't really happen.
18:07 It's just another film, but it's taken the title from it.
18:11 But "Troll 2" is hilarious.
18:13 I once watched it at three in the morning
18:14 in the back room of a pub with a second floor.
18:18 And I promise you, it's still one of the funniest,
18:22 most ridiculous, and watch it in a crowd
18:24 because the, "Oh my God!"
18:27 (laughing)
18:28 "Troll 2," everyone will know the line.
18:30 And when it comes on and he does it,
18:32 there's an argument to say that,
18:34 which I don't agree with for many, many reasons,
18:36 personal and also from a non-personal perspective,
18:41 that is the worst movie ever.
18:42 Of course, that is "The Room."
18:44 - Of course it is.
18:45 - But it has the same level of hilarity
18:48 in terms of you can get on board with it.
18:50 But as a sequel, nothing to do with the first "Troll."
18:52 So what's the point?
18:54 It's not a sequel.
18:55 - Very good point.
18:56 Well, mine kind of, well, mine's slightly similar to that.
18:59 And that, again, I'm going back to Stephen King again.
19:01 And this probably is one of the lousiest sequels all time.
19:04 And most people have forgotten about it.
19:05 Quite like digging up forgotten films,
19:06 but "Carrie," the masterpiece, had a sequel.
19:10 It was released in 1999, so quite a bit after,
19:14 "The Rage," "Carrie 2."
19:15 And what it did, which irritates me so much,
19:17 is obviously now there's a fashion for rebooting things.
19:21 And sometimes it works all right.
19:22 "Pet Sematary" was kind of all right.
19:23 And you understand why they do it,
19:25 because you've got these old films
19:27 and maybe the effects aren't particularly good.
19:29 Maybe they've been cheaply done.
19:31 So why not?
19:32 If it's a great story, redo it.
19:33 What "Carrie 2, The Rage" does
19:35 is that it does something really dishonest with the viewer
19:38 in that it says this is a sequel,
19:40 but essentially what it does is it takes Carrie's half-sister
19:43 and it repeats the first film.
19:45 I mean, not quite frame for frame,
19:47 but instead of the school prom, there's a house party,
19:51 but very similar things happen at the house parties.
19:53 The prom, the doors slam shut,
19:55 everyone gets trapped and everything else.
19:56 There's a crazy mother again.
19:58 It's a slightly different crazy mother,
20:00 but it's still a crazy mother.
20:01 There's a mean jock.
20:02 It's a slightly different mean jock,
20:04 but it's still a mean jock.
20:05 And it just takes what is such an amazing film, "Carrie."
20:08 And I don't think I've ever seen a film
20:10 where more so I've been looking at it
20:12 and just wishing I was watching that other film
20:15 because everything reminds you of it.
20:17 And it's the most pointless thing because it isn't a reboot.
20:20 They're not saying we're trying to make this better.
20:22 They know that they're not making something better,
20:24 but they're getting out of it by going,
20:26 "Well, but this is a sequel."
20:28 And I just think it's dishonest.
20:29 It's just got a couple of quite nice performances in it,
20:32 in fairness.
20:33 And I think the effects are kind of all right,
20:35 but it's just a really miserable, miserable, mean film
20:38 made by filmmakers who hopefully never got
20:40 to make another film again.
20:42 So yeah, my number one choice, and it's not even funny.
20:45 I wouldn't tell anyone to watch it.
20:46 It isn't like the rest of our choices.
20:48 Don't watch it.
20:48 It's not worth it.
20:49 It's not worth your time whatsoever.
20:51 And it should be consigned to the basement of history.
20:53 So yeah, my number one, "Carrie 2, The Rage."
20:56 - Away from horror, "Mean Girls 2" is so bad.
20:59 I once seen the star of "Mean Girls,"
21:01 who will remain nameless, who you may know,
21:03 refused to sign a copy of it.
21:05 - Rightly so, rightly so.
21:08 - What's the point in that?
21:11 Yeah, "The Rage" is really bad.
21:13 That was almost on my list.
21:14 And I had a feeling you might've took it.
21:15 So I was like, nah.
21:17 Now, this sounds like I'm gonna cheat here,
21:20 'cause I don't know if mine,
21:22 and I brought this up on the show before.
21:24 I get annoyed by a lot of things in it.
21:26 It's technically a remake,
21:29 but I'm gonna say we can count that in sequel world.
21:31 It's my show.
21:32 I can do what I want.
21:33 - Absolutely.
21:34 - If you don't like it, tough, my show,
21:36 I can do what I want.
21:37 I think it's not the worst horror I've ever seen in my life,
21:41 but it just annoyed me because it's a franchise
21:44 that's really, really close to my heart,
21:45 especially a lot of kids that were born in the '80s heart.
21:48 I think arguably is maybe the greatest horror franchise
21:52 ever, potentially.
21:53 And I just think they just wrecked it
21:57 because the guy who plays the villain,
21:58 and it wasn't starring as the villain,
22:01 they refer to him as,
22:04 he's always known as the child killer,
22:05 and they refer to him as something else,
22:07 which just makes you feel a bit crap
22:10 about the fact that he's this iconic horror villain.
22:12 You're not really meant to go into that element of it.
22:16 But the remake of "Nightmare on Elm Street."
22:18 - It's awful.
22:18 - Awful.
22:19 Just awful.
22:20 I mean, you didn't need it.
22:25 - No, very similar to "Carrie."
22:27 Very similar to "Carrie."
22:28 They're two similar films,
22:29 and films that you would never,
22:30 you wouldn't want that on your greatest enemy to watch that.
22:32 Just no fun, no entertainment.
22:35 - And I don't mind,
22:36 what's the girl that played Carrie again in the remake?
22:39 What's her name?
22:40 - I can't remember either.
22:42 - Oh man.
22:44 I quite like her.
22:45 - Yeah, yeah, she was all right, innit?
22:46 She was all right, innit?
22:48 - Sissy's face is Carrie.
22:49 Like that's who plays Carrie, not anybody else.
22:55 Robert Englund plays Freddy Krueger.
22:57 Not anybody else.
22:59 Like that's just kind of it.
23:01 It doesn't really evade from that.
23:02 You're not allowed to do anything different with it.
23:05 You don't need to make it any different.
23:07 And I think the reason I think the "Elm Street" remake
23:10 was the one that annoyed me the most,
23:12 it's just the simple fact that like,
23:15 it annoyed me more than any other remake
23:17 or any other film.
23:18 Some films I can be like,
23:20 "Oh, the remake wasn't very good, fair enough."
23:22 And then I just move on from it.
23:23 Chloe Grace Moretz is her name.
23:25 And I kind of feel actually,
23:28 I agree with you on Carrie there with the remakes.
23:30 I know it's not a direct sequel,
23:31 but the "Elm Street" remake,
23:34 which was about, I think the 11th or eighth or something,
23:36 and the franchise of films,
23:39 kills the rest of the films
23:40 'cause it's so bad, it's a disgrace.
23:42 And should have never been made.
23:44 - Absolutely, spot on.
23:45 - Short, short, 'cause we didn't see films
23:48 in our review show this week.
23:50 - More than this week.
23:51 - To be fair, you've been at the "Fringe" review and shows.
23:54 I have not been at "Fringe" review and shows,
23:56 but the "Football Thief" is back
23:58 and I am a sports writer.
24:00 But thanks for joining me, Dave.
24:01 We will be seeing films next week, I'm pretty certain.
24:03 - Plenty of films for next week, absolutely.
24:04 See you then, Greg.
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