Vince Ferragamo reviews the Colorado game with Jay and Bob.
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00:00 (upbeat music)
00:02 - Welcome to Sunday Morning Quarterback
00:10 with Jay Stockwell and Bob Frady.
00:13 Vince Ferragamo, welcome to Sunday Morning Quarterback.
00:17 It's such an honor for me.
00:18 I grew up in Nebraska, a little town called Hardington.
00:22 I was 12 years old when you were
00:23 the quarterback at Nebraska.
00:25 Literally, I was baptized in Nebraska lore.
00:28 When you were the quarterback,
00:30 and I followed you basically my whole life,
00:33 what an honor and pleasure to welcome you to this podcast.
00:37 And I just wanna just get your gut reaction
00:40 from what you saw today.
00:41 And we're not gonna bias you with any of our views up front,
00:45 but from the perspective, first of all, wait, one question.
00:49 Do you have any eligibility left?
00:50 Could we maybe?
00:51 - Yeah.
00:52 (laughing)
00:53 That's a great introduction, I'm telling you.
00:56 I'm so old, man.
00:57 You wouldn't want me in there for sure.
00:59 But I'm not afraid to be on.
01:01 - Well, no, we might.
01:02 Hey, wait, Vince, can you catch a snap?
01:04 Can you catch a snap?
01:06 - Don't bias the well there, Stockwell.
01:09 Let's hear from Vince.
01:11 - Well, he's hitting the notes.
01:14 So he's hitting the quarterback notes,
01:15 I'm telling you right now, Bob,
01:16 because Jay's right on.
01:18 My reflections on the game today from Colorado,
01:24 coming into this game,
01:25 Nebraska's had a long history of wiping out Colorado.
01:29 Doesn't matter what type of teams they had,
01:31 we'd beat 'em every time.
01:32 And I understand it was a sellout crowd.
01:36 It was the first time in probably 25 years
01:39 that Colorado's had a sellout crowd.
01:41 But I think these are my reflections on the game.
01:46 I look at the first two games, the Minnesota game.
01:48 I know Marcus Satterfield is trying to do his best there,
01:53 but why do you call three passes
01:57 when you're up by seven points
01:58 with 12 and a half minutes to go?
01:59 Let's get back to Nebraska football,
02:01 run the ball down their throat, game over.
02:04 Okay, that's one thing.
02:06 Why do you, on fourth down and one or two,
02:10 at midfield today, when you're still in the game,
02:13 and you gotta get the first down,
02:15 why do you go to a zone read from the shotgun formation?
02:18 What's going on with the play calling?
02:21 I mean, I hate to put blame on anybody,
02:24 but I really think that coaching
02:27 is a vital part of this game.
02:29 And you can see prime time what he's done
02:32 with his coaching staff, what he's done.
02:34 Yes, he's come in with the transfer portal.
02:36 He got guys that wanna come play.
02:38 He says, "We coming."
02:40 Yes, they're coming, and they have a lot of talent.
02:42 They have a lot of talent there.
02:44 And I have to say one thing about this team,
02:47 the Colorado team.
02:48 I mean, that's the talk of the town.
02:51 That's, they've captured the entire sports world, okay?
02:54 Because to coach your son at a collegiate level like this
02:59 is virtually impossible, it's tough.
03:03 And he's done it his whole life.
03:04 He started when the kids were young
03:06 and they grew up together.
03:07 He went to Jackson State, he comes here.
03:10 You know, he's got his plan.
03:12 He's, that team has fight.
03:15 That was Nebraska with Tom Osborne years ago.
03:18 We had--
03:19 Right, right.
03:20 We had fight to the end.
03:21 They will fight.
03:23 They did it last week against TCU.
03:25 And they did today.
03:26 Nebraska's defense is playing really good.
03:28 That's, I think, one of the best secondaries
03:30 I've seen Nebraska have in a long time.
03:33 I mean, you gotta go back to Dave Butterfield
03:36 and Burrell and that type of secondary.
03:40 But man, these guys can cover.
03:42 And they had their work cut out for them today.
03:45 And then first half, it was even.
03:47 You know, rule comes in, 90% of everything
03:51 I'm seeing from that rule, I love.
03:53 But they let Casey Thompson go in favor of Jeff Sims
03:58 who's got the highest turnover ratio of any player in the FBS.
04:03 So at Georgia Tech, 23 games, 25 interceptions.
04:07 And in the first six quarters of Nebraska football this year,
04:12 seven turnovers.
04:13 They seem to have made a major personnel misjudgment here.
04:18 Would you have benched him in the first half
04:20 after the first couple of turnovers?
04:22 How as a quarterback, based on your experience,
04:25 would you have handled that situation?
04:27 Well, I know what Tom Osborne would have done.
04:30 He would have been out.
04:31 Well, let's hear it.
04:32 He would have been.
04:32 Yeah.
04:33 He would have been out.
04:34 And you know, let's just put the thing about Casey Thompson.
04:39 I talked to Tommy Heiser, who I threw to at college.
04:42 He was a great wingback.
04:43 I mean, and he's been following Nebraska football.
04:46 He's a season ticket holder.
04:47 He goes to all the games.
04:48 He's the doctor of the team.
04:49 But he was telling me, when Matt Rule sat down
04:53 with Sims and Thompson, and he explained to him,
04:56 he said, I'm going to a running quarterback.
04:57 Well, that just threw out Casey.
05:00 I guess Casey decided, I got to leave.
05:02 This is not going to be my style of football.
05:04 So he left.
05:05 Yeah, he was a quality quarterback.
05:07 But now you have to build the team around Jeff.
05:10 And you know what?
05:11 He's a running quarterback.
05:13 He's a running quarterback.
05:15 Like Tommy Frazier, run the ball.
05:17 I mean, when they ran the ball with him.
05:20 But when they try to get clever, and there's
05:25 a communication breakdown, obviously,
05:27 there's no coordination with the motion back.
05:30 When they're snapping the ball, that's all handled
05:32 by the quarterback, OK?
05:34 That should not happen.
05:35 Those kind of things cannot happen.
05:37 The ball snapped directly.
05:39 He drops the ball.
05:40 So I mean, he's not ready to play.
05:43 He's not ready to play.
05:44 I'm just saying.
05:45 We called out the same thing last week
05:48 with the throw on the three passes.
05:49 We get the first one, you take your shot.
05:51 But you're right.
05:52 You know, for a little while there,
05:54 they were playing some '90s Nebraska football,
05:56 whereas, you know, it's option reads and just pitch the ball.
05:59 And they get away from that.
06:01 Do you think that maybe they just
06:03 don't have faith in the other quarterbacks?
06:04 That's why they're sticking with Sims so long.
06:06 Well, you have a tendency, actually, Bob,
06:08 you got to stick with the guy that's QB1, right?
06:12 And that's the guy coming into camp.
06:14 He left spring ball, QB1, and this
06:16 is the guy they're going with.
06:17 You have the whole year to work with the guys
06:19 that you have to know mentally, physically, fight-wise.
06:24 Do they have the stamina?
06:25 Are they going to go out there?
06:27 I mean, Tom Osborne and Corgan and those guys,
06:29 when I was there, it's just like, if you turn the ball over,
06:32 man, you're out.
06:33 You can't turn the ball over.
06:35 I mean, they were sticklers on that.
06:37 You just lose.
06:39 And I feel embarrassed because I watch this game,
06:44 and I'm going, Colorado cannot do this.
06:47 I mean, they're a good team, obviously.
06:48 They have a good team, but shut them down.
06:50 Their defense, you can't keep a defense on the field,
06:53 I don't care how good they are, forever,
06:55 they're going to break down eventually.
06:59 And I'm telling you, the best quarterback in the country
07:02 right now is Sanders for Colorado.
07:07 I agree.
07:08 He does everything right.
07:09 When you look for a quarterback, I'm telling you,
07:11 this guy, he's got poise in the pocket.
07:14 He knows when he has to move.
07:17 He's very in control.
07:19 He drills the pass if he has to move.
07:22 He's a thrower first.
07:23 He's not a runner first.
07:25 That's what makes him so great.
07:27 And he's got great leadership.
07:29 He's going to stay in there.
07:31 I don't care what the score is.
07:32 If they're down by a score, they'll
07:33 come right back and put another touchdown drive together.
07:37 So this guy is talented.
07:40 He comes from great lineage.
07:42 That's a tough team they were up against.
07:43 But you know what?
07:45 They came in, and I have to say, Matt Ruhle
07:47 has done a pretty decent job.
07:49 I mean, he's got some good schemes together,
07:52 but I don't know what's going on with the rest of the coaching
07:54 staff.
07:56 Look, I'm encouraged by Matt Ruhle.
07:59 We're going to stick--
08:01 Yeah.
08:01 --and keep the faith with the guy as we can.
08:04 But boy, oh boy, have they learned a lot
08:06 in the last couple of games.
08:08 All right, so in terms of game recap,
08:11 we'll kind of put that behind us.
08:12 Take us back to happier times, Vince.
08:15 When you were from Torrance, California,
08:18 you started out elsewhere.
08:20 Tell us about how you got recruited
08:22 and how you came to Nebraska and then your time there.
08:25 And then kind of walk us through your professional career.
08:28 And just looking at it on Wikipedia,
08:30 you had a really awesome professional career
08:33 for a long time.
08:34 So can you just kind of take us through that sort of snapshot
08:37 of your life?
08:37 It was tumultuous in the beginning
08:40 when coming out of high school.
08:41 I was highly sought out after Stanford was recruiting me,
08:46 Nebraska, Cal.
08:48 There was a lot of schools.
08:50 I decided I was going to go to Stanford.
08:52 It turned out I ended up going to Cal right
08:54 at the last minute.
08:56 After two years, they put us on--
08:57 Did you make a wrong turn in San Jose or something?
08:59 You just took this highway instead of that highway?
09:02 No, I found my way there.
09:03 I found my way there.
09:04 But it was a whole different experience for me.
09:09 I mean, I went from one of the most liberal schools
09:11 to one of the most conservative schools.
09:13 But I think in those days, we didn't
09:15 have the transfer portal.
09:17 So after two years, and they put us on probation,
09:21 I said, well, here's my dream as a kid
09:23 growing up in Torrance and in Wilmington, California.
09:26 I want to go play in the Rose Bowl.
09:28 I wasn't going to get that chance.
09:30 So I decided to leave.
09:32 I made my first contact at the University of Nebraska.
09:35 They put me-- they said, OK, well, if you want to come,
09:38 you want to try your luck here, come on over,
09:40 and we'll put you on a baseball scholarship
09:42 and see what happens.
09:43 And that's what happened.
09:44 I transferred to Nebraska.
09:46 I was seventh on the depth chart,
09:47 had to work my way all the way to the top.
09:49 I think I impressed some of the coach pre-training.
09:52 And I made it to the top.
09:54 We had Terry Luck, who was our team captain.
09:57 My first year, he was a sixth-year senior.
10:00 And he started off the season, and we tied LSU.
10:05 And then that halftime, the second game against Miami,
10:07 they put me in.
10:08 And it didn't last long.
10:12 So when I got in there, things changed.
10:15 The chemistry was right.
10:16 The players were ready.
10:17 I was ready to go.
10:18 And you always have to wait for your opportunity.
10:20 And when it strikes, you've got to make the best of it.
10:24 And fortunately for me, I went on and had a great career
10:28 at Nebraska.
10:28 I had great coaching.
10:29 We had a great team, great team chemistry.
10:32 And Vince, who are some of the other players on your team
10:35 that were back then in '76-ish, right?
10:39 Yeah, we--
10:40 Yeah, like who were some of the guys?
10:42 We had a great team from offense to defense.
10:46 Defense, you had Mike Foltz over there on defense.
10:49 Before that, you had--
10:51 when I was redshirting my first year,
10:53 you had Tom Roode.
10:54 You had defense, the Blackshirts.
10:57 Wunder Mons was a safety.
10:59 You had Jimmy Burrow.
11:00 Wunder Mons.
11:02 Yeah.
11:03 Now on offense, we had Bob Lingenfelter.
11:05 We had Greg Jorgensen.
11:07 We had just a great lineup.
11:08 Running backs, we were full of running backs.
11:10 Tony Davis, John O'Leary.
11:12 Wide receivers, Bobby Thomas was as best as they got.
11:15 I mean, Dave Shamblin.
11:17 Chuck Melito, who passed away.
11:19 Chuck was-- was a great-- had great speed.
11:21 He was from Colorado.
11:23 He could just get the ball.
11:25 And Tom liked to throw the football.
11:27 So we were a strong running attack.
11:29 But he saw with the talents we had, and then he said,
11:34 I'm going to throw the football.
11:35 And we led the Big 8 in passing.
11:37 And we made a lot of plays.
11:39 If it wasn't for us throwing the ball in my senior year
11:42 against Texas Tech, we'd beat--
11:46 You won that game 27 to 4--
11:48 27-14.
11:49 And you know who their defensive coordinator was?
11:51 Yeah.
11:52 That-- that was--
11:53 Who was--
11:55 Bill Parcells.
11:57 So Bill Parcells--
11:58 Oh, my god.
11:58 Oh, wow.
11:59 And he stopped our running game cold.
12:01 We could not move the ball on the ground.
12:03 So Tom Osborne was smart enough.
12:04 He just starts, let's throw it.
12:06 Let's throw it, Vinny.
12:06 Throw it.
12:07 Throw it.
12:07 And it's funny because the day after following that game,
12:11 the chancellor walked up to Tom Osborne.
12:13 He says, it's a good thing you won that game because I
12:15 was going to fire you today.
12:17 And so--
12:19 Oh, wow.
12:19 Look what Tom Osborne, a legendary career after that.
12:23 And so--
12:24 So-- so great--
12:25 Great segue.
12:26 Just talk a little bit about Coach Osborne.
12:28 Yeah.
12:29 Bob and I have met him a number of times.
12:30 Just the sweet part of a guy, but a legendary coach.
12:35 250, 553, and three--
12:38 five national championships.
12:40 You know, and the rest-- three of them were his.
12:42 What was he like as your--
12:43 your coach?
12:44 He was calm, cool, and collected all the time.
12:47 I can tell you.
12:48 They were loyal.
12:51 The coaching staff was with him for 30 years.
12:55 They never left.
12:56 Wow.
12:57 You had the--
12:59 the loyalty from within.
13:01 They built that team on contributions.
13:04 Guys came in.
13:05 We had very few guys go make it in the NFL,
13:08 but everybody was great collegiate players.
13:10 And they all played together, worked together.
13:12 It was all through Tom Osborne's hard work.
13:14 Never used a foul language.
13:16 We never had personal fouls.
13:19 I don't think we ever had a personal foul called in a game.
13:25 We hardly ever jumped offsides.
13:27 I mean, how many times did Nebraska jump offsides today?
13:30 It was--
13:31 Oh, gosh.
13:32 It was--
13:32 It's embarrassing, OK?
13:34 You don't do that.
13:35 The quarterback's got to control that.
13:37 You got to get to find the guy to go out there.
13:40 And it starts from a grassroots effort.
13:43 And he was always very specially oriented.
13:47 He always reviewed game plans.
13:50 His games were-- game plans were unique because they
13:54 were complicated but simple.
13:56 And he put everything together.
13:58 We got tested every Friday before the Saturday games.
14:01 We had to go in and get tested.
14:03 And we knew it--
14:04 But, well, hold on.
14:05 They had an exam for the-- like the plays and the--
14:08 Yeah, quarterback.
14:08 --game plan.
14:09 You had a test?
14:09 Tom gave us a quiz.
14:10 He gave us a test every Friday morning.
14:13 We went in there.
14:14 Wow.
14:14 We had to write down all of our plays,
14:18 doubt and distance situations.
14:19 We knew it all.
14:20 We had to know it all.
14:23 Football's more a mental game than it is a physical game.
14:26 I tell that to my grandson a lot.
14:28 And they're learning that.
14:29 And I gave them all playbooks.
14:31 So they're nine years old.
14:33 And the parents were looking at me like, are you crazy?
14:36 No, we're going to--
14:37 Did you use like a little tiny font
14:40 that didn't have a lot of lines on it?
14:41 Or was it like a big crayon?
14:42 Nine years old, they got to read it.
14:44 They got to learn it.
14:45 I mean, you might as well start learning the game
14:47 and learn the correct way to run.
14:49 I mean, a lot of teams just say they draw up a play.
14:51 They hand the ball.
14:52 Or a guy sweeps or he goes this way or that way.
14:54 We actually do call plays that they
14:56 will be learning in high school, college.
14:58 And if they want to go further, they'll learn them in prose.
15:00 It's the same stuff.
15:01 So why not learn it when you're nine years old?
15:04 You'd be surprised how much they can learn.
15:05 But that's the way--
15:06 So Vince, Stockwell--
15:08 Very thorough, I can say, Jay, very thorough.
15:11 And you didn't make mistakes because you
15:15 were well-prepared.
15:16 Preparation is the key.
15:19 And I don't think--
15:20 Cavemanton.
15:20 --has it.
15:22 What was--
15:23 I mean, you want to--
15:25 They look like they lacked some preparation.
15:26 Yeah, it's preparation.
15:27 It's preparation.
15:29 So Stockwell is like a puppy right now.
15:31 He's so excited to meet you.
15:33 We met you a few years ago at a holiday bowl down in San Diego.
15:36 And he was for Clint.
15:38 There might be a puddle on the floor where Stockwell is right
15:41 now.
15:41 He's so excited to meet you.
15:43 Let me ask you another couple of questions.
15:46 Given the liberal protection that quarterbacks
15:48 get these days, how many yards do
15:50 you think you could have thrown for a college
15:52 in this current environment?
15:53 Well, the game, certainly Bob, has changed.
15:55 And it's a lot more pass-happy offense.
15:57 But you can see in the NFL the importance of the running game.
16:01 And they put a devaluation of running backs in the NFL.
16:05 But a running back is a key element to any offense.
16:10 Because the offensive lineman-- and I
16:12 do a podcast with Jackie Slater called On Point Live
16:15 with Vince and Jackie.
16:16 We do a weekly show.
16:17 And he continually talks about the offensive lineman
16:22 teeing off and beating down the pass rush out
16:26 of the defensive line.
16:27 And if you don't do it by running the football,
16:30 you have a very difficult time of sustaining a great pass
16:35 protection for the quarterback.
16:37 So you have to be able to do both.
16:39 You have to be able to run the football.
16:41 And then the running plays will open up the defense.
16:45 Some teams are like pass to open up the run.
16:49 But most of the great teams are run to open up the pass.
16:55 Right.
16:56 Great teams are like Kansas City.
16:58 They can throw the run.
16:59 They throw to set up the run.
17:02 But they're so clever at what they do,
17:05 most teams are not that clever.
17:06 And that's why they're so successful.
17:09 It just looked like Nebraska was so much bigger than Colorado.
17:12 Yeah.
17:13 And what I couldn't understand is
17:16 why they weren't just beating the ball right down there.
17:19 Well, when you run a zone--
17:20 Same thing with Minnesota last week.
17:21 They were bigger.
17:22 You run a zone read on fourth and two, Bob.
17:24 You're not going to pick up the first down.
17:27 Right.
17:27 You don't want to ask--
17:28 There were moments.
17:29 You can't run a zone read with fourth and two.
17:32 They're going to close the gap.
17:33 They're going to hit the back before he hits the hole.
17:36 And let me tell you another play.
17:37 Let me tell you another play.
17:38 I'm watching the game.
17:40 And they have a spread formation,
17:42 but they're in the shotgun.
17:47 But the back is behind the quarterback.
17:51 OK.
17:52 All right.
17:53 They're so wide outside, there's no way
17:56 they can throw the football.
17:57 So they just told the defense, I'm running the football.
18:00 And the back is behind the quarterback.
18:04 It's going to take them longer to hit the line.
18:06 They got stuffed on that play.
18:09 I mean, that's not good when a defense can read what you're
18:14 going to-- what play's coming at them.
18:17 They need to be surprised at what's hitting them.
18:21 So I mean, it just doesn't look good.
18:23 Are your walls OK at your home?
18:26 Did you throw anything through the wall during the game?
18:28 My wife is from Omaha, Nebraska.
18:31 She was telling me, calm down, calm down.
18:33 Hey, calm down.
18:33 [LAUGHTER]
18:36 So if we could take a few more minutes of your time,
18:39 we have a few more things we want to cover with you.
18:41 First of all, I leaned over to my wife this morning
18:43 and said, hey, honey, we've got Vince Ferragamo on the pod
18:46 today.
18:46 And she's like, you mean the shoe guy?
18:48 [LAUGHTER]
18:50 Yeah, my wife said the same thing.
18:52 [INTERPOSING VOICES]
18:53 [LAUGHTER]
18:56 Yeah, you're not out of Ferragamo.
18:59 I have a number of pairs of shoes from Ferragamo.
19:02 They're a great brand.
19:04 I'll tell you that.
19:05 So nine years in the pros, right?
19:07 So say eight, nine years?
19:09 Yeah.
19:11 Long time with the Rams.
19:12 Including a 500-yard game.
19:14 Yeah, I had one year in Canada, a 509 against the Bears, yeah.
19:18 But that was second highest at that time.
19:19 But like you said, though, you mentioned,
19:21 has the game changed that much?
19:23 The game is so-- Bob is so much more wide open today.
19:27 I would have loved to play in this system.
19:28 Yeah, they can't hit the quarterback.
19:30 They can't do a head slap on the offensive lineman,
19:33 defensive lineman.
19:34 They can't pounce on the quarterback.
19:36 I mean, you know, you just--
19:39 it's a pass-happy league now.
19:41 And you can be very creative.
19:43 But I tell you, the quarterback needs to get under the center.
19:47 Some of these teams run entirely an offense in the shotgun.
19:53 That's not going to happen.
19:54 You've got to get under the center at certain times.
19:58 And you know, I mean, he is--
20:00 so be creative under center.
20:02 I mean, you know, the Rams won a Super Bowl with Matt Stafford
20:05 being under center some.
20:06 So I mean, you can't go in the shotgun the whole time.
20:08 Back to your business venture.
20:09 So David Max told me you sold his house in like three
20:12 minutes.
20:14 Well, when I retired from football, Jay,
20:17 I got involved in the real estate market.
20:20 And I own-- touched our real estate, obviously.
20:23 You can tell by the name.
20:24 And we call-- we have a DBA Ferragamo Real Estate.
20:28 We're also in the mortgage business.
20:29 We do private lending as well.
20:31 And you know, that's kind of carried me through.
20:35 I mean, I had a great background in athletics.
20:38 And then I got into the business world
20:40 and met some great people.
20:42 And we have some great similarities
20:46 with other companies.
20:47 And you know, that's how we operate.
20:49 But we've been very loyal to our people
20:51 and a lot of our customers.
20:52 And like David, yeah, we sold David's house.
20:55 He had a great home in Irvine.
20:57 And that's a real expensive area.
20:59 So it was easy to sell.
21:00 Some houses just sell on their own.
21:01 But a lot of times today, you have
21:04 to really work with the social media.
21:05 You have to market the property correctly
21:07 and make a strong effort.
21:11 Nothing comes easy.
21:12 I don't even care if it's sales.
21:13 People think, oh, it's easy to be a realtor.
21:15 No, it really isn't.
21:16 You have to really get out there and understand the business
21:19 and understand the market and have
21:22 a great personal relationship with people.
21:24 So Bob and I also happen to be big fans of wine.
21:28 And you have a winery.
21:30 Tell us about the winery.
21:32 Jay, it's a lot of fun.
21:34 We're a family-owned operation, vinsperigonvineyards.com,
21:38 if anyone's interested.
21:39 We just did a wine dinner the other night.
21:41 It was spectacular.
21:42 We do a lot of charitable events.
21:45 We did one for the Ronald McDonald House
21:47 and had a great group.
21:48 They loved the wines.
21:49 And I paired the wines with the food.
21:51 I'm actually an entry-level sommelier,
21:53 so that helps.
21:54 I did some sitting up there at the Napa Institute,
21:59 the Greystone Institute.
22:01 But I'm really kind of Italian wine intensive.
22:05 So the grapes that we grow here in Orange County, which
22:08 is unusual.
22:09 You don't see a lot of them in Orange County.
22:10 You see them more than Sonoma and Napa.
22:13 Are you in Temecula?
22:14 Are you in Temecula?
22:15 No, we're in Orange County.
22:17 Orange County.
22:18 Oh, OK.
22:20 I actually--
22:21 You know what?
22:21 Spoken like a guy from Nebraska.
22:24 Are you in Temecula?
22:25 No, it's Orange County.
22:26 You wouldn't believe it.
22:27 But just the other day, I went wine tasting at Moraga Winery,
22:34 which is in downtown Los Angeles in Beverly Hills.
22:37 It owns about 15 acres.
22:40 So--
22:41 Oh, wow.
22:41 --it was a fabulous winery.
22:44 Growing it in Beverly Hills?
22:45 It's in Beverly Hills, yeah.
22:47 They're doing a great job with growing grapes.
22:49 They grow a Bordeaux style wine.
22:51 They grow Cabernet Sauvignon.
22:53 They have Petit Bordeaux.
22:54 They have Malbec and Cabernet Franc.
23:00 But I grow, in Orange County, we grow Sangiovese, obviously,
23:03 because it's an Italian varietal.
23:05 And we grow a little Cabernet and Cabernet Franc.
23:08 And we do a blend.
23:09 It's a super Tuscan style wine.
23:12 And it's got a lot of great accolades.
23:15 We've got some gold medals.
23:16 And we've done a pretty good job with it.
23:18 So it's a lot of fun.
23:19 And it's a great food wine.
23:21 It goes with a lot of our Italian meals that we--
23:23 my wife loves to cook.
23:24 She's Sicilian.
23:25 And so you got to be careful, because you got to--
23:28 you know, you got to be real nice to her.
23:32 Wait, Vince, Vince, your wife told you to calm down,
23:35 and she's Sicilian?
23:36 Yeah.
23:38 You must have been hot today.
23:40 You must have been hot.
23:41 She goes, what do you want for lunch?
23:42 What do you want for lunch?
23:43 And I thought, OK, I'll have something.
23:46 But yeah, no, no, yeah, she told me to calm down.
23:50 And you better do what she said, or else you're in trouble.
23:54 Are the wines available in stores?
23:56 Is there a club?
23:57 Or how would people acquire your wine?
23:59 Yeah, you can go right online is probably the easiest way, Bob.
24:02 But on our website, vinceferragamovineyards.com,
24:06 you can become a wine member if you like.
24:08 We are a boutique winery.
24:09 So we only make a specific amount of wines, probably
24:13 about 600 bottles a year.
24:14 That's about it.
24:15 But we also have a couple other wines of wine.
24:19 But I'll have to send you guys some,
24:21 and have the people back in Nebraska--
24:23 I'm sure you'll enjoy it, because it's--
24:26 It won't last.
24:27 It won't last.
24:29 Well, since you guys are wine members,
24:30 I'll take care of you guys.
24:32 We will take that away faster than a Jephson's fumble.
24:37 It's just--
24:38 Last topic for you, Vince.
24:40 We are both philanthropists.
24:42 We make donations to a few things in Nebraska.
24:45 Tell us about your foundation.
24:46 Yeah, the Ferragamo Foundation has been around
24:49 for about 30-some years.
24:52 I started doing a golf tournament back in 1983.
24:56 I remember the year because my first daughter
24:59 was born that year.
25:00 And she was one year old and came to the golf tournament.
25:03 And we raised money for the developmentally disabled
25:07 and the Special Olympics program and the Speech and Language
25:10 Development Center.
25:12 And we generated quite a bit of money,
25:15 maybe $3 million in those 30 years.
25:18 And so we were real proud of that.
25:20 We became one of the major fundraisers for Orange Coast
25:22 Special Olympics.
25:24 And then my wife did a--
25:25 we did a fundraiser, a luncheon, for the Orange Coast Memorial
25:30 Foundation at the hospital for breast cancer.
25:33 And it was very successful.
25:35 For 10 years, we did that.
25:36 And they named a wing of the hospital after her foundation.
25:40 And the Ferragamo Foundation still exists today.
25:43 We still do some fundraising.
25:45 And we still help a lot of charities out the best we can.
25:47 And so it's been a way to give back to the community.
25:52 I've enjoyed it.
25:54 All my kids have been involved with it.
25:56 I had three daughters.
25:58 They were very active with it for some time.
26:00 My oldest daughter became a pediatrician.
26:02 And she still gives back.
26:04 So I'm just really excited about all the people
26:08 we were able to help over the years.
26:11 Yeah.
26:12 Well, Vince, normally Bob and I would
26:15 do just the separate segment of the podcast without the guests.
26:19 But this has been so amazing.
26:21 This is all we're going to do.
26:22 We're just going to call it amazing.
26:24 And thank you so much.
26:25 And consider yourself a friend of Sunday Morning Quarterback.
26:29 And we would love to get out to Orange County.
26:31 And Bob is already there.
26:32 He lives there.
26:33 But by the way, Vince, you should know this.
26:35 Bob just sold his company and is building a house--
26:39 bought a house here and is renovating it in Minnesota.
26:42 So we'd like to do a dinner in California and in Minnesota.
26:46 Well, and bring your wine.
26:47 Bring our double wine dinner.
26:48 That'll be great.
26:50 Just let us know what it is.
26:51 One of us will be there.
26:54 The Halloween party.
26:56 Maybe--
26:58 I don't know if we want to publish that.
27:00 We'll talk about it later.
27:01 I'll come in a space suit or something.
27:03 You can't recognize who I am.
27:05 I love Halloween parties, by the way.
27:07 Vince, thank you so much.
27:10 I spent time with a mascot.
27:12 People didn't even know who I was the whole night
27:14 where I was there.
27:15 It wasn't--
27:15 OK.
27:16 I love that.
27:17 Let me ask you one more question.
27:19 At this point in your life, would you
27:20 rather walk through a room where no one knew who you were
27:24 or walk through a room where everyone knew who you were?
27:28 Well, I guess if I'm being honored,
27:30 they better know who I am if I walked into that room.
27:35 But generally speaking, I think I'd rather walk in a room
27:38 nobody knew who I was.
27:40 Is that--
27:41 Yeah, I'm the same way.
27:42 I can have a little peace of mind when I'm in the room,
27:44 especially when you go somewhere to eat.
27:45 But most people are really kind.
27:47 And they won't disturb you when you're eating food
27:52 or doing something.
27:53 But afterwards, they'll come up to you.
27:54 But yeah, I think most of the time,
27:56 everybody's pretty cognizant of that.
27:58 And they treat you with a lot of respect.
28:01 That's the way I would rather have my grandkids treat people
28:04 with a certain amount of respect.
28:06 So I think that's one thing we're lacking today.
28:08 We need more of that.
28:10 Good question.
28:11 Well, that's a perfect place to wrap up.
28:14 I think your grandson is--
28:15 what year recruit is he?
28:17 Is that 2032?
28:19 Yeah, maybe so.
28:20 Look for him down the road.
28:21 He likes baseball.
28:22 He's a good tennis player.
28:23 So we'll see what happens.
28:24 But he plays football.
28:25 And we got him.
28:26 But he's not bad.
28:27 He throws the ball pretty good.
28:28 So I wonder where he got that.
28:30 I don't know.
28:32 Well, Vince, thank you very much.
28:33 And go Big Red.
28:34 All right, thanks a lot, Jay.
28:36 Thank you, Bob.
28:36 Don't lose faith.
28:37 All right.
28:38 Don't lose faith.