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00:00 The important question is, Mr. Athar Kazmi, basically, when you have already spoken to the Nigrah government, is this a responsibility?
00:10 The way it is being discussed, it is a very heavy responsibility. And now it is time for it to be increased. Is this a responsibility or people consider it a lottery? What is the impression of this?
00:20 Obviously, it is a responsibility and they are demonstrating it. Today I was watching on Pakistan Television, on PTV, the address of Mariam Nawaz Sahiba was being shown live.
00:31 So, they are demonstrating responsibility and non-partisanism. Normally, if there is a government, then their Jalsa is shown.
00:40 Now, they are not in the government, but still, the government of Mr. Inwarullah Kakkar and the ministry of Mr. Solangi are showing the Jalsa of Mariam Bibi with great responsibility.
00:50 So, it shows that they are neutral and will show the Jalsa of all the Jamaats in the same way.
00:55 The rest is that, is it only the responsibility of the elections? I think, the responsibility is the same as you take.
01:02 Some people are there, you are putting responsibility on them, they do not take it. Some people are more responsible.
01:07 Those who are not responsible, they are also worried about them. There are such people in every family.
01:12 So, I think Mr. Kakkar is more responsible than necessary. He talks about all the issues from North Korea to South Africa.
01:21 He is traveling the whole world, giving interviews to the BBC in Paris, he has been to America in London, then he has been to Saudi Arabia.
01:29 So, he shows that he is a very responsible person and talks about everything.
01:33 Sometimes, he makes Pakistan the Israel of China, sometimes he compares Pakistan to the occupied Kashmir.
01:40 So, you can guess that he is a very responsible person.
01:43 That statement was such that everyone was offended that what kind of, what kind of, and in what circumstances, what kind of, what was the statement given with thought?
01:53 It was a matter of great surprise.
01:55 He has taken responsibility, he has put a burden on himself, so he thinks that everything is his responsibility.
02:01 I have to talk about this, I have to talk about that.
02:04 If he takes a little less responsibility and pays attention to elections and facilitates the election commission,
02:10 so that elections are held as soon as possible and the real representatives of the people come, then I think it will be better.
02:16 Amir sahib, please tell us that this is slowly, slowly, like the Noon League convention, then many parties are now active, including MQM Pakistan.
02:27 Do you see this atmosphere now regarding elections?
02:30 And now, do you think that the disconnect that was found between the public and the political parties, will that gap fill in in your view?
02:38 Thank you very much Mr. Ishaq.
02:43 Two or three things have happened.
02:45 One is that Ahmed Abbas said that which authority?
02:48 The authority gives them the law, but they should not have gone morally.
02:53 Especially, neither did they have any right in the UN that they are not elected ministers, that they were not stating our policy.
03:01 I have stated the legal point, they should have gone morally.
03:05 If they had gone to Saudi Arabia, they would have gone by commercial flight.
03:08 If they had to give a speech for the Oxford Union, they would have gone by commercial flight.
03:13 They would have gone themselves, that I have been asked to be the Prime Minister, but I am going myself.
03:17 So, it would have been a very good thing.
03:19 Especially, what was said that their money should be collected.
03:24 This is the PTI, who is the leader, senior, prominent, respectable, but his chairman,
03:29 he used to say all these things before the 2018 elections, what he used to do, you will remember,
03:34 he used to say that this amnesty is for thieves and I will recover from everyone.
03:37 As soon as it came, he gave amnesty in both his budgets.
03:40 This was his claim that I will take all this money back, because I was looking after them.
03:45 He used to say that I will make the Governor House fall, there are big empires, make the PM House a university.
03:51 Universities will be made, etc.
03:52 But I, Amir sir, I will do it with a little interruption, in the context that we talk.
03:58 One minute, I am coming.
03:59 I will interrupt you a little and do one thing, then you will listen to the discussion.
04:03 Yes, yes, I am just saying one thing in between.
04:07 See, the thing is that if everyone comes and does the same thing by justifying someone's wrongdoing,
04:14 then that thing is not right.
04:16 The way is that if someone has done wrong, then you do not do that.
04:20 And especially, there are many responsibilities on the government of Nigrah in this respect.
04:23 What I said, because he is talking as a representative of a party,
04:29 he is not just talking as a lawyer, he is representing the way of justice.
04:33 That is why Mr. Ishfaq, listen to the matter with patience.
04:36 I spoke on the basis that if these examples were established,
04:40 then neither would the Minister of Finance have the courage to say that I have no money to return.
04:46 If he had recovered money from the thieves, then a lot would have happened.
04:49 Good, the ministries would not have given it themselves.
04:51 Now you come to the atmosphere of the election, which was your basic question.
04:54 See, the atmosphere of the election has to be made by the political parties.
04:57 And January 28 is made if the election is to be held on Sunday or on 4th February.
05:04 And when Mualana Fazlur Rehman Sahib made the story that it is winter,
05:07 then the election of 1997 was held on 3rd February.
05:10 Keep this in mind.
05:12 And at that time, the climate change did not have such a bad effect that the winters were not very cold.
05:16 Nowadays, you do not know that winter has come and gone.
05:18 Whatever these stories are, Mualana Fazlur Rehman Sahib,
05:21 but the whole campaign of the election of 97 was held in Ramzan Sharif,
05:25 and the election was held on 3rd February.
05:28 So, if Maryam Nawaz has held a Jalsa today,
05:31 the leadership of the PTI should announce this to those who do not have the papers.
05:37 Because those who will attack the state,
05:39 the law will attack them, it will also check them, it will also catch them.
05:43 The leaders of the People's Party, Bilawal Bhutto, are holding Jalsas.
05:46 They have come to Punjab and held Jalsas.
05:48 So, the PTI should bring their faces, which they have not brought.
05:52 And they want to do politics, so they should hold Jalsas.
05:55 When they will stop the Jalsa, then you and I will raise the question that why are they stopping?
06:00 If someone wants to go into election, wants to create his party, wants to create an organization,
06:05 wants to give a message to some people, then he should give it.
06:08 Because this environment has to be created by political parties.
06:11 There was a lot of objection to PMLN, the leader does not come.
06:13 If he is coming and before he comes, his party is warming up to its people, workers,
06:18 then I think this is a good way for everyone to bring their own and start Jalsas.