Podcast Complete Recap of Disasterous Loss to the Chargers
In our latest episode of the Las Vegas Raiders Inside Podcast we break down the Silver and Black versus the Los Angeles Chargers
Transcript
00:00 Hi everybody, this is Hondo Carpenter from Sports Illustrated's Fan Nation Las Vegas
00:06 Raiders Insider Podcast here at SoFi Stadium.
00:09 We're just moments ago, yet again, you saw the Raiders lose.
00:12 They fall to one and three.
00:15 The score was 24-17, but in fairness, it really wasn't that close.
00:19 Aiden O'Connell gets the start.
00:22 We got a lot to talk about tonight.
00:24 The Raiders were able to stay in the game despite seven sacks, multiple penalties, several
00:32 of them stupid, just stupid.
00:35 I'm not calling the players that committed them stupid, but they were stupid penalties.
00:41 Unforced errors, self-inflicted wounds, circular firing squad, poor coaching, lack of discipline.
00:48 You can add anything you want to add and it's probably going to be germane and fair.
00:53 So we got a lot to talk about.
00:54 I apologize for the noise.
00:55 Obviously, they're cleaning up the stadium here, but let's just dig right into a couple
01:00 of observations I want to make.
01:04 Earlier in the week, the Raiders were going to start Ryan Hoyer.
01:11 They made the decision to possibly go away from that.
01:15 I got a text early this morning.
01:17 This is Sunday, the day of the game.
01:19 It was early, early this morning when I got off the plane saying that we're going to see
01:24 some O'Connell.
01:26 I'm going to make a couple of statements.
01:28 You've had Aiden inactive for three games.
01:32 He wasn't your backup.
01:33 So he's not getting second reps, which is more reps, getting them ready.
01:39 So then Jimmy goes down and you start them.
01:41 Now, let me just say something to you.
01:44 I have no issue with Aiden O'Connell playing.
01:46 In fact, if you really want to know the truth, I think the kids showed us a lot that Jimmy
01:51 Garoppolo hasn't shown us.
01:53 Just being fair.
01:56 My issue is if you're going to have him in week four when Jimmy goes down, then he should
02:05 have been there all along getting more reps.
02:08 That's not on Aiden O'Connell.
02:09 That's on coaching.
02:11 And that's going to be a theme of this tonight is coaching.
02:16 So again, I have no issues whatsoever.
02:18 In fact, I get it.
02:19 I think it makes complete sense.
02:21 He's your guy of the future.
02:22 Brian Hart was brought in to keep this.
02:25 If Jimmy goes down in a game, which we've seen him a couple of times, or to be a coach
02:30 to Aiden.
02:33 But this is something we discussed in my question answer articles and in podcasts before the
02:37 season when you asked me who would be the number two.
02:41 But they decided to go with Aiden, which again, I don't have an issue with the decision to
02:47 go to Aiden.
02:48 If you want to know the truth, I think it's a smart move.
02:51 I think that was the right move to make.
02:54 So I am not sitting here with the benefit of 2020 backward vision saying starting Aiden
03:01 was a good move.
03:02 I'm here or wasn't a good move or was it doesn't matter.
03:05 I'm sitting here saying it was a good move, but then not having him prepared, not getting
03:10 him more reps after what you saw in preseason.
03:12 Now, listen, we know preseason isn't regular season, but you haven't had him ready.
03:16 He hasn't been out there.
03:17 He hasn't been getting the number two guy reps.
03:20 I just think that was a blunder.
03:22 Let's continue.
03:23 I asked Josh McDaniels after the game today, you have a worst offense today, four games,
03:30 21 games into your regime than you inherited when the previous guy got fired.
03:37 That's on Josh McDaniels.
03:38 You have $102 million offensive payroll, 102 million, ninth in the NFL.
03:46 By the way, last week I said third in the NFL.
03:48 I apologize.
03:49 It's corrected.
03:50 It's ninth in the NFL.
03:51 I apologize.
03:53 And you have a ninth in the NFL paid offense and forget that it was, well, it was just
04:00 a rookie.
04:01 Yeah, well, your rookie just scored more points than your veteran highly played quarterbacks
04:04 averaging.
04:07 I mean, it's, it's, I'm sorry.
04:13 No, it's not Josh McDaniels fault when Jerry Tillery yet again does something stupid, not
04:19 calling Jerry stupid.
04:23 He's not, but man, dumb penalty last year, smacking the ball out of a guy's hand, just
04:29 a brainless mistake.
04:32 And then today, the guy's clearly out of bounds and you pound them.
04:36 Let me just tell you, first of all, you know, you can't do that.
04:41 And you're the Raiders.
04:42 I mean, football IQ, come on now, come on.
04:48 Multiple penalty.
04:49 I mean, you, you got a defensive back lining up off sides.
04:52 Come on now.
04:54 That's like going to a store and you see a 400 pound person with a five gallon pail of
05:01 ice cream and a carton of cigs and 35 bags of chips, 85 pounds of sugar and a canister
05:11 of iced tea.
05:12 And they say, Oh, can I get a diet Coke?
05:14 Now why don't you just splurge?
05:18 Dumb, dumb, mistackles everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.
05:30 I'm sorry.
05:32 You expect that in Peewee football, you expect it in junior football, freshman football,
05:36 JV football, varsity football in high school, even in some colleges.
05:40 These are grown men getting paid a lot of money and you can't tackle somebody.
05:47 You're them.
05:48 You got your arms wrapped around them like a, and you can't make a tackle.
05:56 Give me a break.
05:57 Now is it Josh McDaniels, his fault that when a guy misses a tackle or Jerry Tiller?
06:03 Well, yes.
06:04 And here's why Nick Saban has told me this.
06:08 You've heard me say it.
06:09 And he said it to other people.
06:11 If you're allowing it, you're coaching it.
06:16 Last year we gave a ton of grace because of when they got here, whatever else, these are
06:20 the players that Josh McDaniels wanted.
06:25 And let me be very clear, because I had some people saying how much of this is on Ziegler.
06:32 You can look to Ziegler at the draft, but you got players here, Josh McDaniels wanted,
06:36 you got the ninth highest paid offense and you can't do crap.
06:41 Hey, can you imagine if you went to a Jenny Craig clinic and you, I was your instructor,
06:47 you'd be like, what the hell?
06:52 You got the ninth highest paid offense.
06:55 People around the league have called you an offensive genius.
06:59 Your lack of ability to produce is squarely on you.
07:06 You don't like all the mistakes.
07:08 These are the players you wanted.
07:11 These are the people you decided, I apologize.
07:13 Coach Staley's doing his press conference.
07:15 I'm going to keep going.
07:17 But this is what you wanted.
07:20 This is what you desire.
07:21 These are the things that you wanted.
07:23 Don't complain about the meal when you picked out the groceries.
07:27 I'm sorry.
07:29 No excuse.
07:31 This was a horrific performance, utterly embarrassing.
07:36 I said to Josh McDaniels afterward, we're going to put the video up.
07:39 I said, you know, you, this is, you have a worse offense than what you inherited.
07:43 Your team's lacking discipline, execution errors.
07:47 What do you and your staff do to fix it?
07:51 This is on this staff.
07:53 You wanted this.
07:55 You desired this.
07:57 And you got to fix it.
07:58 Now I'm going to say something that's going to be completely unpopular.
08:00 I get it.
08:01 I understand it.
08:02 I don't care.
08:03 My job is not to become popular with you.
08:04 I'm not looking for Christmas cards.
08:07 When you pay this defense, what you pay them.
08:10 Okay.
08:11 When you pay that defense and granted, you're all going to look at their paychecks.
08:15 They make a lot of money.
08:16 But comparative to other NFL teams, I think this defense has played relatively well.
08:23 Okay.
08:24 You, you, you give up your offense, gives up seven sacks.
08:27 You the turnovers, two fumbles and interception, and you're mad at your defense.
08:36 Now there were a lot of defensive mistakes.
08:38 I mentioned Tillery.
08:39 I mentioned the defensive back being offside, but I'm sorry.
08:43 I'm sorry.
08:44 But the money you invested, I mean, it's like buying a home in the worst neighborhood for
08:49 $35,000 and getting pissed when you can't sell it for 2 million.
08:53 When you put 3 million to improve it in, well, look at where you're at.
08:57 You get what you pay for.
08:59 Come on now.
09:01 I'm sorry.
09:02 It's on you.
09:04 And this is not a personal attack.
09:09 I'm not calling for anyone to lose their job.
09:11 Dear God.
09:12 We're four games into a 17 game season.
09:14 But what I am saying is the continue blunders.
09:19 This is all on leadership.
09:21 I had pages and notes today to talk about players.
09:25 Those of you that watch my post games, you know, that's what I do.
09:27 I go through and talk about players early on.
09:29 I thought Tyree early on, look good, disappeared, disappeared.
09:33 I don't even think he could have made it onto a milk carton because he would have disappeared
09:37 from that early on.
09:38 Even though it was best he's played early on.
09:42 But you got critical errors, critical mistakes.
09:46 That is all on coaching.
09:47 Every single cotton picking bit of it.
09:51 That's on coaching.
09:53 And so for the Raiders, here's the problem.
09:56 I expected you and I made my preseason prediction to be two and two.
09:59 I expected a loss today, predicted a loss today.
10:01 This doesn't surprise me.
10:03 This is not how the game went, but the scores relative to what I thought, thought it'd be
10:07 a one game score.
10:08 I think I predicted 24, 21 and it was 24, 17, whatever.
10:14 It's essentially what I predicted.
10:15 It's what I expected.
10:17 But this team has got to find a way to produce.
10:23 This team has got to find a way.
10:27 And this is all on coaching.
10:28 I'm sorry.
10:29 The offensive line looked horrible.
10:34 You were pushed around.
10:36 You were beat up.
10:37 Listen, y'all know I love the offensive line.
10:40 I'm a big ugly.
10:41 I like hanging out with big uglies.
10:43 I'm a lineman guy.
10:47 And you are the returning offensive line for the NFL's leading rusher.
10:53 And today you were embarrassed.
10:55 Every person on that offensive line should be embarrassed.
10:58 Every person on that offensive line should be sent at home, pissed off.
11:02 And when that plane lands in Vegas, go in and lift, go in and get treatment, watch film
11:08 and say, man, Monday night with all the NFL world watching, Monday night, this got to
11:18 be fixed.
11:19 Now, I wrote an article last week that Josh McDaniels was in danger of losing a lot more
11:26 than just this game.
11:29 I stand by that.
11:31 I do not believe he has as of yet lost this.
11:35 I'm going to be talking to people on the phones.
11:38 I'll probably have a little bit more to say a little bit later in the week, probably Tuesday
11:43 about that subject.
11:45 And so I'll be accountable to you there.
11:49 But the way this team kept fighting, even at the end, is not indicative of a team that
11:53 is quick.
11:54 So you may choose to believe it.
11:55 I saw my timeline.
11:56 A lot of people said it.
11:57 That's fine.
11:58 I'm not critical of you feeling that way.
12:00 But I'm telling you, as a guy that was just in the locker room, I think they're mad.
12:03 I think they're angry.
12:04 I think they're frustrated.
12:06 I think they're looking for answers.
12:07 This is when your coaching staff gives them.
12:10 It's why you're the coaching staff.
12:12 Remember Saban, if you're allowing it, coaching it, they're looking for that leadership.
12:19 I think Josh McDaniels, 21 games in, says it all.
12:23 You're supposed to be the offensive guy.
12:26 You put all your money, all your horse money.
12:28 It's like going to a racetrack, putting all your money on one horse.
12:32 You put your money into an offensive horse and your offense sucks.
12:39 Your big money quarterback that you handpicked today, in my opinion, just got outplayed by
12:46 a rookie who hasn't been properly prepared.
12:51 Ouch.
12:54 You got a great running back in Josh Jacobs.
12:57 I'm sorry, he can't work if the moment he gets the ball, he's got people on him.
13:02 Yeah, I believe in yak, yards after the catch, but you got to be able to get some type of
13:07 a head of steam.
13:10 Does anyone not say, "Where's Khalil Mack?"
13:13 Bueller, Bueller.
13:15 I mean, y'all may not have played with Khalil, but y'all need to be football fans enough
13:22 to know who Khalil is.
13:25 Josh had schemes called to chip them, double them, hit them, knock them around, and he
13:29 still is like, "Excuse me," and win.
13:33 It was brutal.
13:36 What I just saw against a good charger team, but had a ton of stars out.
13:45 Dear God, can you imagine if they were at full strength?
13:50 This would have been a whoopin'.
13:53 I mean, it was bad.
13:56 So what is the complete recap?
13:58 This is all on coaching.
14:00 Now I understand people are going to come to me and say, "Oh no, how can you say that
14:05 when players are the ones who execute?"
14:08 Because remember what Saban said, "If you allow it, you're coaching it," and this has
14:11 been the story.
14:13 Has this not been the story?
14:16 You are, I don't think you got a lot of horses on defense.
14:20 This is why I said I thought this was not a playoff team, and I stand by that.
14:25 I think I've been proven right after four games, but you chose to spend your money there.
14:31 I remember a buddy one time of mine who had a house that was not really a great house,
14:35 wasn't in a great neighborhood, and he drove a beautiful, gorgeous, brand new Corvette.
14:43 And I remember him telling me, "Yeah, my parents are all mad at me because I have a dump of
14:47 a house, but an amazing car."
14:49 He goes, "But I wanted the car and the house isn't as important to me."
14:52 Okay, it's his money.
14:56 Don't complain about your defense when you put all your money into a Corvette but forgot.
15:01 No transmission.
15:03 I'm sorry.
15:05 The complete recap is this coaching staff is not performing.
15:12 It's not getting ... Listen, at some point, players got to get the hint.
15:17 And when it continues to happen, that's coaching.
15:21 That's preparation.
15:23 That's all on them.
15:24 Now, I'm not sitting here saying, "We've fired Josh McDaniels."
15:27 Who are you going to replace him with?
15:30 Ask yourself that, Jackson.
15:31 I mean, everybody has a tendency to say, "Fire this guy.
15:35 Get rid of the guy."
15:36 Well, who are you going to replace him with?
15:40 That to me is foolishness.
15:41 You can do it if you want.
15:42 I'm not calling you foolish.
15:44 I'm just saying that the statement is foolishness.
15:46 Who are you going to replace him with?
15:48 So you got 13 games left.
15:51 And you got a lot of time.
15:54 If you can turn this thing around, there's plenty of time.
15:57 The season's not over.
15:58 Regardless of what everyone says, it ain't over.
16:00 There's still a game to be played.
16:03 But now you got to get in there and figure out the mess.
16:08 This is what Josh McDaniels gets paid for in each of his hand-picked staff.
16:13 I'm sorry.
16:14 I believe Josh has a decent staff.
16:16 He's got a couple of guys on there that I'm baffled are still part of his team.
16:22 But guess what, Josh?
16:23 You wanted them.
16:24 You made this meal.
16:25 You got to eat it now.
16:28 I can tell you right now, I believe Ziegler got Josh what Josh wanted.
16:34 I think he would have built it a little bit differently.
16:37 I absolutely believe that.
16:38 I don't think he would say that publicly.
16:40 And I'm not implying he said it to me.
16:43 It is what it is.
16:45 And so we are stuck now.
16:48 And when I say we, they are stuck now with a one in three team, underperforming, lack
16:56 of discipline, lack of execution.
17:01 I can go on, but there's no reason to.
17:03 You're beating a dead horse.
17:06 But I'm going to tell you something.
17:08 A lot of anger in that locker room.
17:12 Again, I personally, and I would tell you guys, if I felt this team had given up on
17:18 Josh, I think there's a lot of questions of him.
17:22 I think that's absolutely fair.
17:23 And I know it to be correct.
17:26 But I think there's a lot of questions about him.
17:28 I think there's a lot of people wondering about him.
17:31 A lot of people guessing, but I don't think he's lost it or this team would not have fought
17:38 and come back.
17:39 I've been around football too long, folks.
17:41 That's not what teams that quit do.
17:44 I think you could see it.
17:45 In fact, I tweeted out a picture.
17:46 Somebody else tweeted about Max looking despondent on the sideline.
17:51 Those are signs of teams that are weary.
17:54 This team's weary.
17:55 Somehow, Josh McDaniels this week has to dust them off, build them up, and at the same time,
18:04 put a boot in their ass.
18:06 It is what it is.
18:08 There's no getting around it.
18:10 This is all on coaching now.
18:12 It's clear what players are underperforming.
18:16 It's clear what players are not doing well.
18:19 We know the players that are making dumb mistakes.
18:22 You got to keep some guys because your coach wants to put so much money into offense.
18:26 Okay, well, we can afford this guy.
18:33 But now it's on him.
18:35 This is all Josh McDaniels.
18:37 In fact, I'm going to go a step farther.
18:39 There's zero pressure on the team this week.
18:42 It's all on Josh McDaniels.
18:45 Green Bay's coming to town.
18:46 This is a beatable team.
18:48 There are games coming up that are winnable games.
18:52 And your team can respond and get back on track.
18:56 But this is what you wanted.
19:00 This is what you got.
19:03 Now you got to fix it.
19:06 The execution mistakes.
19:10 It is players.
19:12 I'm sorry, but am I the only one that would like to see a coach walk out, pull a guy off
19:17 the field and put a backup in?
19:21 I would have.
19:23 And yes, some backups got reps, but I mean, make a statement.
19:26 Okay, you sit your ass right over there.
19:29 We'll see it after the game.
19:32 All right, Rook.
19:33 Okay, young blood, you're in.
19:36 If the veteran's going to make screwed up mistakes, I'm going to ride with you.
19:40 Is that fair?
19:43 I think it is.
19:44 I think it is.
19:46 Aiden O'Connell did a lot today that I thought was really good.
19:50 He did some things that weren't good, but he's a rookie in his first start.
19:53 That was underprepared in my opinion.
19:57 And in the opinions of some others, by the way.
20:01 And so I asked this question on my Twitter.
20:03 In fact, you can go vote @HondoCarpenter is my Twitter, and I'll let you know what the
20:08 results are.
20:10 Several thousand of you have voted.
20:11 Thank you for that.
20:12 I appreciate it.
20:14 I asked Raider Nation, who do you want starting a quarterback next week?
20:20 AO4, that's Aiden O'Connell, 76%.
20:25 And Garoppolo, 24%.
20:29 I think you can make an argument for both.
20:32 I believe it will be Garoppolo, 100%, because it would have been a Garoppolo this week.
20:39 And I believe that they know they're playing for a lot and they need wins.
20:43 And they believe right now Garoppolo is the one that's going to give them the best shot.
20:49 That's their decision.
20:51 Their decision.
20:52 I think the young gun just showed you a lot more than Garoppolo has.
20:58 But it's the reality of the situation.
21:00 It is what it is.
21:02 And now Josh has to fix it.
21:06 I want someone put a tweet out that said Hondo is now on the fire McDaniels bandwagon train
21:11 or something like that.
21:12 I'm not on any train.
21:13 My job is to report to you what I just saw.
21:16 And what I just saw was a filthy mountain mess.
21:20 Does anybody remember the first original Jurassic Park when they came up on this big, high,
21:27 huge, taller than them pile of dinosaur poo?
21:32 Well, I just watched a SoFi stadium full of poo.
21:37 Was horrible.
21:40 The Chargers, with one of the worst coaches in the world, they have so much talent, even
21:44 with all those guys down, the way the Raiders are playing, they should have killed them.
21:48 This was a ripe game for the Raiders to steal and they just look terrible.
21:54 So the motto of the week is, the recap is, coaching sucked.
21:59 It was terrible.
22:00 Now you may say, what about this, this and this?
22:02 Again, it's not about player execution because this has been a theme.
22:07 So it's being allowed now.
22:09 It's been a long one.
22:12 They got to fix it.
22:13 This is all on Josh McDaniels.
22:16 The nation next week at Allegiant Stadium, Monday night football.
22:22 The Green Bay Packers, going to be a ton of green in that stadium, are coming in.
22:29 You may not know this, but the entire football world watches Monday night football.
22:33 Everybody except the two teams.
22:35 Everybody's going to be watching.
22:38 And Josh McDaniels on national TV is going to be able to show, wow, I rallied my troops.
22:44 I fixed it.
22:47 Or on national TV, it is going to be an utter embarrassment.
22:52 I have no prediction right now.
22:55 I got to go back and watch the film.
22:57 I'm going to talk to some people.
22:59 I want to get some more analysis before I make my thoughts known.
23:03 I have some thoughts, but I want to report, not give opinion.
23:08 But this was very disappointing.
23:11 And I don't think there's any other way to parse it.
23:15 This is on Josh McDaniels now.
23:19 Y'all know I like him.
23:21 Good man.
23:22 Not calling for his firing.
23:23 There's 13 games left.
23:26 But all the eyes are on it.
23:30 Everybody can see it.
23:32 The Band-Aid's ripped off.
23:33 You are 21 games in.
23:37 And your offense is horrible.
23:40 Your player discipline is horrible.
23:43 Your player execution is horrible.
23:47 You have made some unbelievably terrible coaching decisions.
23:54 All the spotlight's on him.
23:56 This is Josh McDaniels week.
24:00 One in three.
24:03 Unexcusable.
24:05 Not the record, but how they're playing.
24:08 Again, I do not feel like he's lost the locker room.
24:13 But I certainly don't feel like there is any trust at all.
24:20 Now it's going to be, you got to show us.
24:22 He's got to fix it.
24:25 And it's going to be interesting to see.
24:28 From here at SoFi Stadium, this is Hondo Carpenter from Sports Illustrated's FAN Nation, Las
24:32 Vegas Raiders Insider Podcast.
24:34 You know we're going to have great coverage for you all week.
24:36 We will see you next.
24:38 Well, we'll see tomorrow, but next week, Monday Night Football, the eyes of the nation.
24:44 It is going to be a microscope event.
24:50 Can't wait for it.
24:51 See you all later.
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