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'You're making up stuff': Tory minister Michelle Donelan grilled by Victoria DerbyshireBBC One

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00:00 You said we are the party of facts.
00:03 I wonder if I could ask you to just have a little look at this, please.
00:05 The government dip tap has sort your rubbish into seven different bins.
00:09 What is sinister and what we shouldn't tolerate
00:12 is the idea that local councils can decide how often you go to the shops.
00:17 It's no wonder that Labour seems so relaxed about taxing meat.
00:22 How can you be the party of facts when none of that is true?
00:24 We are the party that stands up for facts.
00:27 My announcement today...
00:28 I'm going to push you right there.
00:29 None of those three things are true.
00:32 Well, it certainly is true.
00:34 There are a lot of people that have been calling for a meat taxation.
00:38 And it's this government that have been stemming that...
00:40 I'm not going to let this go.
00:42 There was never a proposal to use seven bins.
00:45 We can't find any council that wants to decide how often people can go to shops.
00:49 And Labour have never proposed taxing meat.
00:53 They are untruth, they are fiction, they are completely and utterly made up.
00:57 And it's really disrespectful to voters.
00:59 We are, I genuinely believe we are the party of facts and evidence.
01:03 I've just given you three pieces of fiction
01:05 that members of your party have said in the last couple of weeks.
01:08 Well, I've heard members of the Labour Party
01:10 advocating for those things and...
01:13 It was never a Labour policy, come on.
01:15 Is this how desperate the Conservative Party is now?
01:19 You're making up stuff.
01:21 Well, have you been at this conference?
01:22 If you have, then you can say that this is not a party that is in desperation mode.
01:26 This is a party that's in delivery mode.

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