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00:00 Do you think it will happen by then or do you think Senate elections can also happen in the future?
00:07 Look Mr. Satish, the way things are going on right now, the way the Indian elections have been broken and elections have not been held yet,
00:16 right now, there is only one thing going on, that before the Senate elections, there will be elections because the Senate elections are coming.
00:26 God forbid, if they do this too and say that there is a Senate and we will run the budget on the Senate,
00:32 so now tell me that so many important issues have passed in Pakistan, the Senate meeting will not be held on that.
00:38 Is it possible that you are saying that this matter can go beyond this?
00:42 Look, nothing can happen in this country, but we say that it is a good thing that the elections are well informed,
00:52 we are among the four, they know that the elections may happen, we say that it is a good thing that the elections should be held at the end of January,
01:01 because you are a nuclear state, you are a nuclear country and a nuclear country cannot be run at all,
01:07 you need a parliament, you need a government, but I do not agree with Mr. Murad's statements,
01:16 which he has given a very good statement, but the question arises that why will people go to the courts,
01:24 why will you say that people should go to the courts, why should there be a doubt, we say that there should be free and fair elections,
01:30 all political parties should say that there are free and fair elections, this person wins, that person loses, let's move forward,
01:37 but if you are sitting on the hope that there will be elections and then this thing will happen,
01:42 then there will be differences, there will be talks, there will be objections, everything will be there,
01:48 if you say that after that there will be free and fair elections,
01:50 So if the people's party does not get a mandate, then you will say that this election has been held, Mr. Faisal?
01:54 No, no, I say that the people should see, I just want to ask one thing from Mr. Kundi,
02:00 Mr. Kundi, I am asking you one thing, you tell me which elections have never had cases in this country,
02:06 have they always been or not, you tell me because I am a part of it.
02:10 Look, there are cases, but you see, you have to do such an election on which the people have less objections,
02:16 on which the people say that you see, we do not say that the people's party government should have free and fair elections,
02:22 we say that the elections should be held, whether the people's party gets a mandate,
02:26 PMLN gets a mandate, IPP gets a mandate, PTI gets a mandate, whichever party gets it,
02:30 whichever seat wins, at least the objections should be less,
02:33 but when you show that elections are being held, things are happening,
02:38 as Murasa said that the elections should be held and then people should continue to file cases,
02:42 you say that announce the result in the evening, then leave the court,
02:46 because even in the previous government, the Deputy Speaker had an objection that
02:50 it will be written in the Guinness World Records that 55,000 human error votes were cast,
02:56 55,000 in Quetta, and the Supreme Court has not been able to decide that decision till today,
03:01 5 years have passed, then after that, the losers pass time in the courts,
03:06 just present it today, present it next month, present it after 2 months, they pass time on this,
03:10 but till when will you select in this country, if you have selected, then I am saying that you issue a notification,
03:15 that we have selected, we have left the elections, then people will still go to the courts,
03:20 why have these elections been held, we will spend 5 years on that,
03:23 then in this economic crisis that we are going through, you should not waste Pakistan's money,
03:28 then you do what you want to do, do not do this, create this mood bop.
03:31 Humayun sir, you say this, this is being talked about elections,
03:35 but it is being said that there should be an election in which the representative of the public comes,
03:40 then a result like Kundi sir is saying, which the public should accept,
03:44 that there has to be a mechanism, which was talked about in the electoral reforms,
03:48 and obviously that was needed time, so that there is a result on which no one raises a voice,
03:52 on which no one says this, no one raises fingers, do you think that if elections are held,
03:57 then the communities which do not achieve success, will they sit quietly on it,
04:02 will they accept the result, is this in our nature?
04:06 This is how it is, I make a small comment, when you were giving choices,
04:12 that all prime ministers should also get the same protocol,
04:15 then the second choice can also be that all the convicts should also get the same protocol,
04:20 either give it to all the prime ministers or all the convicts, now comes the matter of elections,
04:25 I understand that, for example, if we do the world cup and remove India and Australia from it,
04:33 then what is the credibility of the world cup,
04:37 however good the empire you keep there, however good the third empire you do,
04:42 however good you make things in it, will it have credibility as a world cup?
04:48 It will not, so as long as Pakistan is not at the place of justice, as a community,
04:54 I believe that if you say that some people who were inside it,
04:59 you have caught them in the incident of 9th May and they should be punished,
05:03 you should trial them, prove them, punish them, there is no problem,
05:08 but if you put those people who are 99% of the people of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
05:15 who were not involved, who are right, if they would have raised the flag of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
05:22 would have done a corner meeting, you would have put them in jail,
05:26 which elections are we talking about?
05:29 What is the status of this election?
05:32 You are talking about all the gatherings, like the Noon League has just held a gathering,
05:37 do you have a plan to hold such a gathering?
05:40 If you do, is there any obstacle in it?
05:43 Sir, I think we are trying to do it on 12th November in Karachi, if they allow us to do it,
05:51 but I will tell you one thing,
05:53 we were talking about the financial stability,
05:58 its direct impact is on political stability,
06:02 we saw in the last episode that you had exiled PTI,
06:06 and after that these 14 Jamaats were in the government,
06:10 but there was no economic stability,
06:13 so if you totally isolate PTI through elections and do not let it come to the elections,
06:20 then it will become the same PDM government,
06:23 what credibility will it have?
06:25 What international organization will accept it for economic stability?
06:32 No one will accept it.
06:34 So the only way is free and fair elections with equal opportunities to all the political parties without having any bias.
06:44 without having any bias.