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- Waleed Iqbal PTI
- Nazir Leghari (Analyst)
- Raza Rumi (Analyst)
- Shoaib Jatt (Analyst)
- Kamran Akmal (Former Cricketer)

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00:00 As-salamu alaykum and welcome to the show.
00:14 I am your host Shaista Yusuf.
00:39 Today we are going to talk about the election of the People's Party.
00:46 People's Party is ready for the elections.
01:09 I am sure that on 8th February, the People's Party will be the majority party of the country.
01:16 This was the tweet and the important statement that came from the former President Asif Ali Zardari.
01:21 Mariam Aurangzeb also supported this.
01:24 She said that the former President Asif Ali Zardari has given a very important statement.
01:28 She said that the government should be united and the policies of the PPP should be called a statement.
01:46 Let me introduce you to Nazir Laghari, a senior journalist.
01:51 Thank you for taking out your time for this show.
01:55 Senior analyst Raza Rumi has also joined us.
01:59 Thank you for your time.
02:01 We also have with us the current Senator of Tehreek-e-Insaf, Waleed Iqbal.
02:05 Thank you for your time.
02:08 We have heard the statements of the people on your side.
02:13 We have also heard that there is a war going on, there are promises and promises are being made.
02:18 The preparations for the elections are going on and the claims are being made.
02:25 The People's Party says that the Prime Minister will be Jiala Yogi and Nunli says that the Prime Minister will be Mian Sahab.
02:30 Which party's claim do you think is more realistic than the reality that they can win the elections and form a government?
02:39 If Waleed Iqbal comes forward as a candidate, then I think he will win and he can also come in the form of a Prime Minister.
02:49 The other two parties are in the first round and are also running their election campaigns.
02:56 And the general impression about one party is that it has come in the election as a Lala Plus or is coming in the election as a Super Lala.
03:05 And one party has started the Jalsa from Mithi in Harparkar.
03:10 We have never seen such a Jalsa.
03:13 And it is not a place where people have traveled hundreds of kilometers to reach remote areas.
03:20 Mithi is a very far away area.
03:23 If anyone has seen the geography of the Sen, then he will know that it is not easy to reach Mithi.
03:28 The way the people have reached there, and the people from Islamkot, Judo and Samar, I think they have reached from Nagarparkar.
03:40 So it is a big gathering.
03:42 After that, they went to Abbottabad, then Mardan, then Peshawar, where they have held Jalsas.
03:48 They have started the election campaign in this way.
03:50 And on the other hand, there is a claim of Mr. Rana Sanawar that he is taking 120 seats out of 141.
03:58 So what is the excuse for them to say that we are winning 242 seats in the National Assembly and no one else is coming, we are coming.
04:08 I don't think that they will be able to take more than 50 seats in Punjab, maybe they will get less than 50 seats.
04:13 This time they will not get.
04:15 They have calculated that they will get 120 seats out of 141.
04:20 I don't think this is possible.
04:22 In any case, it doesn't seem possible.
04:24 These are their guesses.
04:26 And the way they are in Istaka, the Pakistan Council, if there are some electables, they will come.
04:32 And the more guesses are being made, the more they will not come.
04:36 And maybe people have not been able to digest it as a party yet.
04:41 If it is digested, then it is another thing.
04:44 The point is that if the PTI fights the election, it is okay, there are many people who are in jail and the parties also fight the election.
04:52 This has happened in the world too.
04:54 And it is common in the third world.
04:56 If the PTI's leaders are in jail and their other party is fighting the election, and if they say that all these people have come to the election,
05:04 then I think that they can also come forward as a worthy party.
05:08 We think that if they get a chance to fight the election and get a chance to bring forward their expectations, then they will also be a big party.
05:21 Okay, Nazir Laghari, if the Noon League, for example, comes in the position of making a government,
05:28 and if two options are kept, one is the People's Party and the other is the Pakistan Party, let's keep the third party PTI too,
05:38 then in your opinion, with whom will the Noon League be united? Particularly in Punjab.
05:43 Look, there is an impression of Lala Pals and there is an impression of the Kings Party.
05:51 And if the parties start forming governments together, then whatever will go in that direction, what is there in it?
06:00 I don't know, but let's see.
06:02 There is a poem by Ubaid-ul-Alim, reading someone else's poem in front of Allama Iqbal's grandson, which seems strange to me.
06:09 I don't know what is there in it, but let's see.
06:12 Whatever went, it was attributed to him.
06:15 So, you can see what happens in the election and how people come forward, what position they stand in,
06:22 so this is something to come to us now.
06:24 Okay, Mr. Raza Rumi, what does your analysis say?
06:29 Is there a single party that you see taking so much majority that it can make a government independently?
06:37 Thank you. Look, there is no such situation right now that any one party can get a majority.
06:45 The mandate of the people at the moment, at least the surveys that have been done, seem to be divided.
06:53 In the surveys, Pakistan's Tariq-e-Insaf has been far ahead of the other parties,
07:00 but in the current election situation and the environment that has been created,
07:10 it is difficult for Pakistan's Tariq-e-Insaf's popularity to be translated into votes.
07:17 And this is the reason why Pakistan's Muslim League has high expectations of it.
07:23 And as Mr. Abid Laghari was saying, that they have new supporters,
07:29 so you can see that they are also uniting with MQM, they are also going to Balochistan.
07:35 Because if Rana Sanaullah's words were correct, then they would not have needed to unite,
07:43 if they were getting 120 seats from Punjab, then they could have easily made a government with a simple majority.
07:51 But this is not the situation right now. But remember that there is more than two months left in the election.
07:58 And in the next month, it will become quite clear to a large extent,
08:04 what kind of campaigns are going on, will PTI be given the complete permission to campaign,
08:11 will there be a level playing field, will the Pakistan People's Party start its campaign in Punjab.
08:18 So these are the factors that are going to be seen.
08:21 But as of now, if you ask about today, then I personally think that there is no chance of a majority for the Noon League.
08:28 Do you think that the Noon League and other parties can make a government independently?
08:36 Yes, it is difficult for other parties as well, and there are many reasons for that, we will talk about that later.
08:44 I would like to say that the elections in Pakistan are a complicated process,
08:54 because there is not enough acceptance of a single party or a single leadership.
09:01 In that, you have to keep an eye on the politics of the electables on the ground.
09:08 In our country, the politics of the electables has been in power for 30-40 years.
09:14 There are many circles where people buy the tickets of the parties,
09:18 maybe because they will get extra votes, but they themselves are very strong.
09:23 So at the moment, the electables are also in the Pakistan Party, some are in the Noon League, some are in the Azad Party.
09:31 And the situation is not clear yet, so if there are many seats like this,
09:36 then until they put their weight on the shoulders of a party, the party does not get a majority.
09:44 Waleed Iqbal, the complaint of the situation not being harmonious is being cleared by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
09:53 As well as we see that the Pakistan People's Party has also talked a lot about this,
09:58 that the level playing field is not being given.
10:01 But along with this, we have also seen that the people's party also claims that
10:05 we have the ability to fight elections in all kinds of situations.
10:09 So sir, can this be said about Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf?
10:14 Yes, it can be said.
10:19 First of all, I thank Mr. Laghari for his good wishes.
10:25 He took my name. I think that the way Bilawul Bhutto Zardari
10:30 said this in a meeting or in a gathering,
10:35 by addressing the people of Pakistan,
10:38 that you should leave these old, old people, you should leave these Babas,
10:43 or understand my words, but he was saying the same.
10:46 So I think that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has that young blood.
10:51 Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has professionals and educated people.
10:55 Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has young people who can possibly become hopeful.
11:01 However, it is certain that at this time, unlike all other political parties,
11:06 the PTI is not being given a chance.
11:09 The Jalsa is a far-fetched thing.
11:11 Now, if a corner meeting of the Workers' Convention is also taken,
11:15 then either it is not allowed and the court also gives a ruling,
11:20 but even then it is not allowed.
11:22 And even if someone takes such a step,
11:25 the police claims it and spreads it,
11:29 and does not allow any political gathering to be held.
11:35 So both of your guests, and they do not belong to any political party,
11:40 but they have admitted that the environment at the moment is such
11:45 that they are trying to exclude Tehreek-e-Insaf.
11:50 However, your question is that Tehreek-e-Insaf should also be in all kinds of environments
11:58 and in all kinds of conditions, because we are a political party.
12:01 The job of a political party is to fight a political struggle,
12:05 to run a political campaign,
12:08 to contest the votes of people in a political way.
12:15 We will definitely do all of these things.
12:18 And today the PTI has changed a little bit,
12:24 in which Mr. Zardari's tweet, which you told,
12:27 I have the impression that everyone knows that Mr. Zardari is considered a very hardworking man.
12:32 But I did not know that, or for the first time I felt that he has also shown a way of being an astrologer,
12:39 or he has put some kind of crystal ball, that the Election Commission will have a very transparent election.
12:46 This is the law of our elections, the Elections Act,
12:51 which is present and has been in the past, other laws.
12:54 And apart from that, the explanation of the courts is that what is an election?
12:59 The transparency of the election and the importance of the election,
13:02 all that starts when the schedule is announced.
13:05 And all those stages are included in it,
13:08 in which the campaign is also there, in which the process of nomination papers is also there,
13:12 in which when the candidate is terminated,
13:17 then all the activities related to the election are also included.
13:22 Then the election day also happens, the day the polling takes place,
13:25 or the day people cast their votes,
13:29 and then the counting and the announcement of the results,
13:33 this is a complete process.
13:35 So I am a little surprised that this has happened,
13:39 that the father is saying something else and the son is saying something else.
13:42 And I think they should get some notes together, Mr. Zardari and Mr. Bilawal,
13:47 that the father says that he will do a big job, or he will do a name,
13:51 and the son will do the same job as us.
13:53 So anyway, we agree with their opinion.
13:58 Mr. Naseer Deghari, you are sitting in Karachi,
14:04 what are you seeing going on?
14:09 Karachi has given you a mandate to some extent in the Balijat election,
14:17 and I don't think it will be different.
14:20 PTI has the same popularity as it is now,
14:25 the way it was in the Guniyat-Purushan election.
14:28 The Jamaat-e-Islami has the same popularity as the People's Party.
14:32 One thing I made clear about the People's Party the other day,
14:36 that in the 70s election, it was felt that it had lost to Karachi,
14:40 when it was not like that.
14:42 In the Karachi National Assembly election,
14:44 the People's Party had two candidates,
14:47 two or three strong candidates,
14:50 who refused to take the election at the last minute.
14:53 They had returned the papers.
14:56 One was Miraj Mohammad Khan, who was fighting with Liaquatabad,
14:59 and Dr. Shamim Hussain Lanadeen, who was fighting with Nazimabad and Naznazabad,
15:03 and was definitely winning.
15:05 And there was a high possibility that Saudaq-e-Darwesh would win the election,
15:09 but they could not win.
15:11 But the thing is that since there was no seat,
15:15 they did not fight in the elections,
15:17 they took back the papers and said that the revolution comes from the back, not the front.
15:21 But when the morning assembly elections were held,
15:23 the Jamaat-e-Islami won one seat,
15:25 the Muslim League won one seat,
15:27 the Jamia-Tehulma-Pakistan-Nurani group won four seats,
15:31 and the Azad-Umeedwal who had won, had won one seat.
15:35 The People's Party had won nine seats in the morning assembly elections.
15:39 Abdullah Barochi had won from Nazimabad,
15:42 Faisal Miraj, who is the house of Altaf Hussain, had won from here,
15:45 from the area of Sadar, and from the area of Bhatt Road,
15:48 Abdul Waheed Arshi had won,
15:50 and similarly, from Baldia town, Qasim Patel had won,
15:54 from Liali, two Umeedwal had won,
15:56 Ahmed Ali Somrooq, Dalshan Shah,
15:58 and apart from that, from the area of Purange,
16:01 Waleem Ahmed Jamood had won,
16:03 and Tajvi Bipolo had won the elections,
16:06 and Syed Hussain had won the elections.
16:10 From the area of Garden East, from the area of Soldier Bazar,
16:13 and from the area of Aadukar.
16:15 But Mr. Lagari, the union of Noon League and MQM,
16:18 what will it bring in the upcoming elections?
16:21 Nothing will happen. Nothing will happen.
16:23 There will be no increase or decrease in one seat.
16:26 Last time, MQM had won four seats on the basis of their own party.
16:32 I find those four seats difficult.
16:34 They will not be able to win even then.
16:36 And now, the seats will be of different dynamics.
16:39 Some people will come, and some others will come,
16:42 the People's Party will also come,
16:44 and we will see whether they get the Umeedwal of PTI or not.
16:47 That is why many have left.
16:49 The election will be held in Karachi,
16:51 but you can take Dehi Sen from Dhaka to the east bank of the river,
16:56 to Ghotki, and from the west bank,
16:59 you can come from Kashmir, Kandhkot to Yamshora, to Dadu.
17:03 I don't see any person who will come and fight for the elections,
17:06 and will be able to get his seat.
17:08 I don't see any success in the Muslim League, MQM, GDA, or any other ticket.
17:14 So, it will be a one-sided election.
17:16 I think it will be a one-sided election to the extent of the US-India.
17:20 So, you think that the elections will be one-sided.
17:25 We will continue the discussion from here.
17:27 We will take a break.
17:28 We will be back. Stay with us.
17:37 Welcome back after the break.
17:39 Before we go on the break, we were talking about the 'chapkalish' and the 'golabari'.
17:48 Please tell us about this.
17:52 The right-wingers look at the people, not the left-wingers.
17:57 If someone is oppressed, the people of Pakistan will suffer.
18:03 Those who are not looking at their space in the elections,
18:09 should look at the sacrifices of their elders, instead of taking support from the liars.
18:18 Even today, those who are doing old politics are looking for electables.
18:24 Those politicians who will be in the Muslim League, I mean, the MQM, will not be electables.
18:32 Those who are giving us this speech,
18:35 that you are going around Balochistan for a couple of seats.
18:42 The aim of the Balochistan group is to include them in the national system.
18:50 We demand from this 70-year-old politician that he sits at home, in the mosque, and prays for the country.
19:00 Balawal Bhutto says that the 70-year-old should not be the PM.
19:06 You should not take guidance from a 70-year-old.
19:09 In the morning, when you leave the house, you should go and pay the bill.
19:13 Balawal should wait.
19:15 When Pakistan is in a good state, then the youth will compete with each other.
19:20 You have noticed the word war between the Noon League and the Pakistan People's Party.
19:26 Mr. Raza Romi, yesterday's friends, who were allies, they ruled for 7-16 months, and today they are enemies.
19:32 This enmity that is visible, is it really just to warm up the elections and the atmosphere?
19:41 Or are there some old wounds that have healed?
19:45 Look, I think there were old wounds from the beginning.
19:50 But you have seen that these two parties, for 17 months, ran a mixed government.
19:57 When they made a united front against the then PM Imran Khan and freed him from the vote of no confidence.
20:08 Now this is also a surprising thing that you did the government for 17 months.
20:16 In that, the Pakistan People's Party was involved in almost every decision.
20:21 And they had very important information.
20:23 Now they are calling it the inflation league.
20:26 But when the IMF agreement was made, all the leaders of the PPP were taking credit for it.
20:32 They said that our government saved Pakistan from default.
20:36 So what is happening now is purely the preparation of the elections.
20:41 Because obviously, they have to tell their voters and the public something in the elections.
20:46 That is a very important thing.
20:48 And obviously, if they are shown with the noon league, then what will be their own politics?
20:54 But even more important and underlying thing is that perhaps the Pakistan People's Party had some expectations from the PM.
21:04 Because you have seen that Zardari sir tried in Balochistan, he also tried in South Punjab.
21:11 That some people should join the party from there and the position of the PPP will be better.
21:18 Because they have a good number of Sindh leaders.
21:23 They have also performed well in Karachi in the past.
21:26 So from there, they will get some seats to a large extent.
21:31 The real target is Punjab.
21:34 Until they get some seats from there, their work cannot go ahead.
21:39 This is the reason that they think that perhaps this time they will not take out the PPP.
21:50 Otherwise, the PTI will be in a state that they will take out their anger on their political opponents.
21:58 Okay. Mr. Waleed Iqbal, the verbal fight between the PPP and the PPP, do you think it is a serious matter?
22:09 And what benefit will the PPP have from this verbal fight?
22:14 Yes, I would like to tell you that this verbal fight is serious.
22:22 The PPP is the voice of the people.
22:28 Leave it to them. Ask them what they want to do.
22:32 I think that whether we benefit from this or not, they will be harmed.
22:37 And they will have other losses.
22:40 And I will tell you my opinion.
22:43 I think three things are worth mentioning in this regard.
22:48 The voting population of Punjab is about 12.5 crore.
22:52 44-45% of the population is young people between the ages of 18 and 35.
23:00 And according to my estimation, they are not very interested in these two parties.
23:05 Number one.
23:06 Number two, they have the baggage that they have run the government for 16 months.
23:12 The way they have created a storm of inflation, and the highest inflation in the entire region,
23:19 even in Pakistan, more than Sri Lanka, was during the PDM government.
23:23 And it was around 40%.
23:27 And food inflation and all those things.
23:30 People are very upset with this.
23:33 And the repercussions of this, the backlash of this, in this election, through the ballot.
23:40 Because both of them, you can blame each other as much as you want, but they were together in this.
23:45 And the third thing is that our own achievements,
23:49 in the last five years, from the 2018 elections till now,
23:52 if we have given relief to the public, then we have not given justice to the way we did when we were in government.
23:56 I have already mentioned the things they did in 16 months.
23:59 Our manifesto is being formed now.
24:01 But Mr. Walid Iqbal, the baggage you are talking about for 16 months,
24:05 the NLP and the PPP have been saying that the steps we have taken,
24:10 are because of the previous government, that is, the government of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
24:15 Because of their wrong decisions.
24:17 They have been saying that.
24:19 We will tell people that when we were there, and all the months and years we were there,
24:25 our achievement list is very long.
24:28 12, 14, 15 things.
24:30 I will tell you a few things in detail.
24:33 How we made the Gareeb Parwar Policy through the Aisaas Programme and its Zali Programme.
24:40 And how Dr. Sania Nishtar has cheated us,
24:43 that 8 lakh people were removed from it.
24:45 And how we handled COVID.
24:47 Then how we gave relief to the Universal Health Insurance.
24:51 The world's economies had melted down in COVID.
24:54 And how we handled it, it came in the top 3 of the world.
24:57 How we saved Pakistan from the Rico-Dick settlement,
25:03 with such a big loss.
25:05 Then how we saved Pakistan from the Karkia matter,
25:09 and how we saved Pakistan from the excess profits of the Independent Power Projects of 800 billion.
25:14 And I have said a lot, I have given you a lot of things.
25:17 But I am just telling you that his entire past and our achievement is in it.
25:21 Let's talk about the baggage of those 16 months with Mr. Nazir Leghari.
25:24 What do you think, the process of the statement is going on from the People's Party and Noondli,
25:29 is it to save the lives from the baggage of 16 months?
25:32 One thing can be that whatever steps they had to take after taking the responsibility of 16 months,
25:40 because of that and whatever relief they have received in Pakistan,
25:45 and the way the petrol went up to 300,
25:48 the way the prices of the goods have gone up,
25:52 it had a very big impact on the whole of Pakistan.
25:56 How much your interest rate had increased, how your economy had melted down,
26:01 all these circumstances, if you want to save lives from each other, you will not be able to do it.
26:06 Because they were both involved in the government and both were equal.
26:09 With great respect to Mr. Waleed Iqbal,
26:14 but if this situation was January and February 2022,
26:20 today we are in 2023 and the country is going towards the end,
26:24 if it was a situation of 2022, then people were spreading bags and asking for Imran Khan's departure,
26:29 because his period was not a suitable period for Pakistan.
26:33 Problems have always been, there are no such problems in Pakistan that have not always been,
26:37 and there have been painful situations,
26:40 and there have been problems that cannot be understood.
26:47 The minister used to make requests that I should be on the list,
26:51 that I should be on the list for 45 days,
26:54 so that when the list is made, who is doing who, my name should also be on it.
26:58 This has also happened and such problems have also been raised.
27:02 So now this time has passed.
27:05 Now if people have decided that they will vote for the one who will be the last,
27:11 then maybe this time it will not work.
27:15 I don't think this will work.
27:18 It is absolutely true that the Laldas of the previous period did not deliver anything.
27:23 Now if we expect from the Laldas of this period,
27:26 then we have seen their 16-month activity.
27:29 Now a very difficult type of parliament is coming forward,
27:33 in front of which there will be no government,
27:38 we are also seeing this as a problem.
27:40 Let's see what happens next.
27:42 Okay, you are absolutely right, let's see what happens next.
27:47 And who will be the favorite of the people, this will happen after February 8.
27:50 Thank you very much for your time.
27:52 Viewers, we will talk about the World Cup.
27:54 The final battle between Australia and India is still going on.
27:58 Where did the mistakes happen from Pakistan?
28:00 We will also talk about the changes in the cricket team of Pakistan, but after a break.
28:04 Welcome back after the break.
28:14 The final match of the World Cup is taking place between Australia and India.
28:18 And Australia is about to win the match.
28:20 They need 11 runs to win.
28:22 This is the situation of the match,
28:25 but today we saw a very interesting situation during the match,
28:28 when a fan, who was a fan of Virat Kohli,
28:33 who is also a citizen of Australia,
28:36 entered the stadium.
28:39 He was wearing a shirt with the print "Free Palestine"
28:43 and he was also wearing a mask.
28:45 And the fan of Virat Kohli is being told.
28:48 Anyway, this was an interesting development that happened today.
28:52 If we talk about the cricket World Cup,
28:55 then there were a lot of changes in the Pakistani cricket.
29:01 Like Babar Azam became the captain,
29:04 Shaheen Shah became the captain of T20 format,
29:08 Shan Masood was given the captaincy of the test team,
29:10 Inzamamul Haq resigned from the position of chief selector,
29:13 and then the former fast bowler Wahab Riaz was made the chief selector.
29:19 Former captain Mohammad Hafeez was appointed as the director and head coach of the Qawmi team.
29:24 Former captain Mohammad Yusuf was appointed as the head coach of the Pakistan U19 cricket team.
29:31 So the cricket World Cup brought a lot of changes in Pakistani cricket.
29:36 And to know what happened, we have with us sports analyst Shoaib Jatt,
29:43 along with him, we have former cricketer Kamran Akmal.
29:47 Thank you both for your time, Kamran.
29:50 We saw that Afghanistan played very well in the World Cup,
29:54 especially their spin attack was very good.
29:57 If we talk about the defense champion, Karthikeya,
29:59 then he was very disappointed.
30:01 What will you comment on the overall World Cup?
30:04 The World Cup should be smooth.
30:10 All 12 World Cups have been very smooth,
30:15 with a lot of love and support.
30:17 We have seen that the teams have been very successful in the World Cup.
30:21 From the schedule to the visas,
30:24 then the crowd,
30:26 and then the media from Pakistan,
30:30 all the media people, they didn't get visas.
30:33 So all these things have been going on in this World Cup.
30:35 Then a lot of wicket-free was also talked about.
30:38 This was a controversial World Cup from all sides.
30:41 But the Indian team has put all these things aside.
30:47 The Indian team played like a World Cup.
30:49 They showed a good performance,
30:52 but unfortunately they couldn't win the final.
30:54 Australia seemed to be a stronger team,
30:56 played better cricket in the final.
30:58 They didn't play cricket as well as the Indian team.
31:02 But it is believed that the Australians go anywhere,
31:07 they have a lot of confidence, game awareness,
31:10 and are mentally strong.
31:12 And to get such a big crowd quiet,
31:14 like Pat Cummins said yesterday,
31:16 it will be a different kind of fun.
31:18 And that has been fulfilled today.
31:20 So they will enjoy it.
31:22 Australia has won 10 runs,
31:24 but they have become champions.
31:26 They have given outstanding performances,
31:28 and won outstanding matches.
31:30 No one in India can think like that,
31:32 no one understands cricket.
31:34 Australia has done it.
31:37 As we were talking about the controversies of Cameron,
31:42 visa issues, stadium issues,
31:46 we saw a lot of questions on the character of India and ICC.
31:50 As a host, where has the Indian board hit the stick?
31:55 Forget about the sticks,
31:59 I am looking at the stick that is hanging on their head.
32:01 Their Prime Minister is present there.
32:04 Millions of people are gathered in the stadium.
32:07 There is a pin drop silence.
32:09 The way Australia is dominating in this game,
32:12 I think that whatever the influence of the CCI was,
32:15 they say that they did it and hit the stick on their own face.
32:18 They have done a lot of arbitrariness.
32:20 Look at the pitches,
32:22 the way the pitch scandals are coming out.
32:24 They say that karma works.
32:26 Pat Cummins, I think he didn't say anything.
32:30 I was saying that they say that karma works.
32:33 Yes, it is like that.
32:37 Whatever arbitrariness they had to do,
32:39 you can support the team by doing it with your influence.
32:43 You cannot make the team win.
32:45 Winning is done by the players.
32:47 Today when 22 players came down from both sides,
32:50 the body language of one team was like a national anthem.
32:55 It was clear that they were in a mood to do something.
32:59 They are coming closer to victory.
33:02 You can see that India,
33:04 who smartly wanted to make the wicket so that they get a favor,
33:10 but it was a famous poem,
33:12 "Saiyad himself came to his own."
33:15 This wicket has fallen on their neck.
33:18 If this was a proper final wicket of the World Cup,
33:21 I think India would have made 380-390 runs on this wicket.
33:26 If it was a batting paradise wicket.
33:28 Making 380-390 runs and chasing it is not an easy task.
33:32 One more four is left.
33:33 Shoaib, sorry to interrupt.
33:35 Since Australia has started winning,
33:37 we have to move towards the wind-up.
33:39 With this, I and my guests take your leave.

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