"Tidak Ada Sesiapa Orang Industri Cari Ketika Saya Hidup Susah" - Naqiu

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00:54 What dream?
00:56 The one that I'll be PM Tepi.
00:57 We're with Naqiu!
01:00 Hi! Peace be upon you.
01:02 Peace be upon you too.
01:04 What dream was that?
01:06 You still haven't told us yet.
01:08 I told you to be PM Tepi.
01:10 Naqiu wants to know how you're doing.
01:13 It's been 7-8 weeks since you joined AUSTA.
01:16 It's been 9 weeks.
01:18 Yes 9 weeks.
01:19 How's your health?
01:21 My health is good. But I'm still at 80% of my training level.
01:29 Oh my god.
01:31 I know. I understand.
01:33 But it's still a long way to go.
01:35 This time it's been 12 weeks.
01:37 So this week is the 9th week.
01:39 4 more weeks.
01:41 That's right.
01:43 I heard that the AUSTA and other programs have been affected.
01:49 You have to go to the hospital.
01:51 You can't talk. You have to use your phone.
01:53 Yes.
01:55 But Naqiu is doing well.
01:57 He's taking vitamins.
01:59 He's a promo.
02:01 He's good at taking care of his health.
02:03 Praise be to God.
02:05 We pray for his health.
02:07 Amen.
02:09 That's the challenge for the AUSTA.JV contestants.
02:13 Health.
02:15 Because everyone can sing.
02:17 But health.
02:19 Health.
02:21 Because sometimes we think too much.
02:25 When we think too much, it can affect our health.
02:28 I understand.
02:29 I was almost sick when I started.
02:33 But I remember that if I'm not healthy, I can't do anything.
02:38 So I have to take care of my health.
02:40 Some people think that just watching TV for 2.5 minutes...
02:44 ...can't make them sick or get sick.
02:46 They don't know how to prepare.
02:50 They have to look for clothes.
02:52 Yes.
02:54 Watching TV is a bit...
02:56 But it's true.
02:58 Even though it's just one song, 2.5 minutes...
03:01 ...it's like doing a 3-hour concert.
03:04 Because of the preparation.
03:05 Especially when you have to perform in front of the judges.
03:08 So to rest.
03:09 Don't make a mistake.
03:11 One more thing.
03:12 If you lock up one part, it'll be a disaster for Malaysia.
03:15 That's what I remember.
03:17 That's what I remember.
03:18 We sing best when we're locked up.
03:20 So, among the things that Nakyu thinks of...
03:24 ...for All Star GV.
03:26 Other than not being too loud.
03:28 Not being too loud.
03:29 What else bothers you?
03:32 Okay.
03:33 If you look at it from the first week to the eighth week.
03:38 I always try to show the difference.
03:41 Maybe not for others, but for me.
03:44 People have never seen me do it.
03:46 So, the stress is...
03:48 ...when we want to do something, we have our teachers.
03:52 So, we have our teacher's responsibilities.
03:55 We have our team's responsibilities.
03:57 So, I always think...
04:00 ...we have to deliver what we have planned...
04:02 ...so that we don't let down our team...
04:04 ...who have worked hard for Columbus.
04:06 Because they've worked so hard...
04:08 ...to produce my performance for 2.5 minutes.
04:11 I'm not alone.
04:12 There are many people working.
04:14 So, I always say this before I perform.
04:17 This is not for me alone.
04:19 This is for my team who have worked hard...
04:21 ...to think of many aspects of my performance.
04:25 The people who have worked behind the scenes.
04:27 You may see me alone, but there are many people behind me...
04:30 ...who have helped me.
04:31 Yes, from the concept, lighting, LED, make-up, and clothes.
04:36 I only execute my work.
04:39 The rest is a discussion.
04:41 Most of the ideas don't come from me.
04:45 So, I have to appreciate the people who have worked with me.
04:48 I understand. -But, isn't it pressure?
04:50 You're someone else who has thought of it.
04:54 That's the idea from their mind.
04:57 I'm the one who has to execute it.
04:59 Do you think I can do it?
05:00 It's not in your mind.
05:02 At first, I had this kind of thought.
05:06 I had this idea.
05:08 But, I always think of the positive side...
05:12 ...when I see the negative side.
05:15 If I think of it, it will be the same thing.
05:20 And I will be biased.
05:25 I think my decision is right.
05:27 I think what I did is good.
05:30 I think the visual I gave is good.
05:32 But, if I have other people who are watching,...
05:35 ...my team won't be considerate.
05:40 They won't say, "That's good."
05:42 They won't say, "That's not good."
05:44 They won't say, "That's not good."
05:46 They won't say, "Your movement is stupid."
05:48 I need people like this who are considerate.
05:53 When I have people like this,...
05:56 ...they will think, "I don't think the posture is good."
06:00 "Try doing this."
06:02 "Why?"
06:04 If I'm asked to do something, I will ask, "Why do I have to do this?"
06:08 Justify.
06:09 Even though my teacher is like my teacher.
06:11 "Teacher, why do I have to sing like this?"
06:13 So, I will explain.
06:15 I need those things.
06:17 If I work with my own head, people won't see the difference.
06:24 If we want to make a difference, we need to do it differently.
06:27 If we want to show people a different side or make them remember,...
06:32 ...we need to do it differently.
06:35 People can see me on social media.
06:37 It's the same.
06:39 I was on All Stars with Gaga Farhanzad for 8 years...
06:41 ...to show different things.
06:43 I was like, "Can I do this?"
06:47 But, I said, "Just try it."
06:50 The result is a backstory.
06:52 We need to be brave and appreciate people's ideas.
06:58 "I'll take your idea and execute it."
07:00 "See if your idea works."
07:02 At least, people who work with us will be happy.
07:04 There are three judges.
07:08 All three are professionals.
07:10 Some say that all three have different tastes.
07:13 It's not easy to satisfy all three.
07:16 It's very difficult.
07:17 Maybe Tok Ram wants A, Bonda wants B, and Tok Naz wants C.
07:21 It's like a maze.
07:22 Who knows if this has been on TV?
07:24 People will tell you.
07:26 How?
07:28 People will tell you.
07:29 Me?
07:30 That's right.
07:31 I think, not just us, but everyone who has been on TV...
07:35 ...will say the same thing.
07:37 That's right.
07:38 All three are not from the same background.
07:41 Even the music they produce is not the same.
07:45 So, the story is different.
07:47 That's art.
07:48 That's why I'm not on TV.
07:51 You all.
07:52 Did I say something wrong?
07:56 Let's throwback.
07:57 He's like a self-promotion.
07:59 Who's the guest?
08:01 Naqiu, you were born in Johor, right?
08:05 You grew up in Kuala Lumpur.
08:07 I was 16 when I was born.
08:11 But, my question is, why were you born in Johor?
08:14 There's a long name for Naqiu, Wan.
08:17 Where did you get the name Wan Naqiu Din?
08:20 My ancestors were from Terengganu.
08:26 So, they migrated to Johor.
08:30 My grandfather was born in Johor.
08:36 My father and I were born in Johor.
08:40 You're all Johor people.
08:42 But, the name Wan is still there.
08:45 It's a legacy.
08:47 Even my children are Wan.
08:49 You're all connected.
08:51 Are there Wan men and women? -Yes.
08:53 I understand.
08:54 It's a strong legacy.
08:56 But, there are Wan people in Johor.
08:59 Really? -Yes.
09:00 There are many Wan people in Johor.
09:02 Why? -I don't know.
09:04 Maybe it's the same.
09:06 Maybe they migrated from Terengganu.
09:09 But, there's a big community of Wan people in Johor.
09:14 There are many.
09:16 There are many Niq people in Johor.
09:18 They all migrated to Johor.
09:20 Maybe.
09:21 My grandparents were born in Johor.
09:23 So, they continue the legacy.
09:25 Just like Naqiu.
09:26 So, Naqiu, you started singing in school.
09:29 But, you didn't get a job.
09:31 That's right.
09:32 You're a singer.
09:33 What's that? A story?
09:35 It's not a story.
09:36 How did you start?
09:38 How did I start?
09:40 I was six years old.
09:42 I was six years old.
09:45 I heard the song, 1992.
09:47 I was in Exis with my parents.
09:50 All the kids in school wanted to sing that song.
09:53 Everyone in the class sang that song.
09:56 "I want to sing, teacher."
09:58 Even though I didn't organise any competitions,...
10:01 ...I still wanted to show my talent.
10:03 So, I asked my friends, "What song is this?"
10:07 They said, "This is Exis's song."
10:09 I went home and turned on the radio.
10:12 I asked my parents and my sister who took care of me.
10:16 "Which one is Exis's song?"
10:19 "This is the song for my mother."
10:22 We had to wait for the song to be broadcasted.
10:26 Now, we can listen to it right away.
10:29 I was so desperate to hear my favourite song.
10:32 A few weeks or months later, there was a competition.
10:38 At RTM. Bintang Kecil.
10:41 Bintang Kecil at RTM.
10:44 My late mother didn't want to try it...
10:50 ...because she was interested in art.
10:54 She asked me to try it out.
10:59 I became the leader of the group.
11:01 She also established the group.
11:03 She established it? -Yes, in my garden.
11:06 I asked her, "How do you want to be like Exis's group?"
11:16 "Because you're still young."
11:18 "Mamat is still young."
11:19 "Everyone is still in school."
11:22 What caught my attention was Mamat.
11:25 He was a singer.
11:27 When there was a competition, I asked her...
11:30 ...if she wanted to be like Mamat.
11:32 When I heard that, I decided to give it a try.
11:36 I had never sung before.
11:38 I listened to the melody and memorized the lyrics.
11:43 I went to the competition.
11:45 I made it to the semi-final.
11:49 After that, I always participated in the karaoke competition.
11:54 I was brave enough to participate in the competition.
11:57 At one point, when I was 13 or 14,...
12:04 ...it became very serious.
12:06 I started playing the guitar.
12:11 My father was a drummer.
12:16 He could play the piano, keyboard, guitar, and bass.
12:20 He was a musician. -He was my father's father.
12:23 I learned from him.
12:26 My father taught me how to play the Melayu song.
12:30 I think I was interested in composing...
12:36 ...from my father's father.
12:38 I sang a lot to my mother's father.
12:41 At one point, when I was 13 or 14,...
12:45 ...someone approached me with a contract...
12:48 ...to be a recording artist.
12:50 That's how it was.
12:52 I had two choices.
12:55 I was crazy about football.
12:57 If I lost my job, I would still go to school to play football.
13:00 He's the same.
13:02 I would still go to school to play football.
13:04 I would give a lot of excuses.
13:08 Even at night, I would look for excuses...
13:15 ...to go out and play football.
13:23 When I reached a certain level, my mother would sleep.
13:26 She wouldn't let me play football.
13:28 I would play football until late at night.
13:31 At one point, my father would force me to play football.
13:38 That's right. -I was kicked out of the school.
13:40 That's right!
13:42 That's sad.
13:44 When I was active, I would play football until I was a school representative.
13:52 I would go to the election.
13:55 Back then, there was a J-Kid in Johor.
13:58 I would go.
14:00 When I got the contract, my mother would still tell me to choose.
14:04 To play football or sing?
14:06 At that time, I thought that if I played football with my brother...
14:10 ...imagine me at 37 years old.
14:12 What would I be like at 13?
14:14 You'd be younger. -I'd be a kid.
14:16 I'd be a teenager.
14:18 I thought that I was interested in playing football...
14:24 ...but I wouldn't be able to play football in the future.
14:27 I was too young.
14:30 I decided to try singing.
14:33 I became a singer.
14:35 Did you approach the band or just solo?
14:39 I was approached by Kak Aira Fazira, our prima donna.
14:42 Seriously? -Yes.
14:44 She's my best friend. -I see.
14:47 That's why when I met Faliq, I thought that it was great.
14:51 She's my crush until today.
14:54 Kak Aira, there's a girl here.
14:56 But we have to be aware of ourselves.
14:58 We have to be aware of ourselves. -No, I'm not aware of myself.
15:02 I'm brave enough to say that I love Kak Aira Fazira.
15:06 I'm the same. I'm brave.
15:08 I'm not able to do it.
15:10 I'm realistic. I'm able to do it.
15:13 I lost.
15:15 I'm realistic. -I'm the best man win.
15:17 Kak, don't you remember our moments?
15:21 You're so funny. -I've been here since I was a kid.
15:24 I have more experience.
15:26 I don't think I exist here.
15:29 I'm like, "Let's fight. Best man win."
15:33 Go ahead.
15:35 At that time, Era Fazira approached you to be a singer.
15:37 My elder brother, who's a sulong, worked with Era Fazira.
15:40 He worked in Era Fazira Entertainment.
15:44 My elder brother was also a latak dancer for Kak Aira.
15:48 One day, Kak Aira said that she wanted to find an artist...
15:55 ...under Era Fazira Entertainment.
15:58 My elder brother remembered me.
16:00 He called my mother-in-law and said, "Send..."
16:04 We used to dub. -Yes, that's right.
16:08 "Send Kak Aira to my house."
16:11 A week later, Kak Aira came to my house.
16:15 She asked us to go to KL to record a proper demo.
16:19 When we were about to record a proper demo...
16:22 ...and Kak Aira Fazira didn't have a studio,...
16:24 ...we rented a studio.
16:26 It was NSR Studio.
16:28 It was on Jalan Ipoh.
16:33 Iman Wan was in charge of NSR...
16:38 ...and the composer was Lan Laga.
16:40 They were just hanging out in the studio.
16:44 I recorded a demo.
16:47 What song was it?
16:49 I remember it. -It was a phenomenal song.
16:51 It had to be New Boys.
16:54 New Boys had started earlier.
16:56 I was singing.
17:00 Suddenly, they stopped the song.
17:02 I thought, "Did I do something wrong?"
17:04 I was so nervous.
17:06 I was looking at the composer, Lan Laga and Iman Wan.
17:11 I thought, "Did I sing it wrong?"
17:13 Suddenly, they stopped the song.
17:17 They kept me in the vocal booth for a long time.
17:21 I saw them talking to my late mother.
17:24 They were talking for a long time.
17:27 I wondered what was going on. -We were thinking.
17:29 I wondered why I had to be alone.
17:33 I was angry.
17:35 Suddenly, they called me to the control room.
17:40 They asked me if I wanted to be a member of NSR.
17:43 I was like, "I'm not with Kak Aira. I don't know what's going on."
17:47 That's right.
17:50 My late mother said, "We don't know. We're under Aira Fazira."
17:54 "We're here because Kak Aira asked us to record a demo."
17:58 I didn't know what was going on between NSR and Aira Fazira.
18:03 I was told that I had to sign a contract with NSR to form a band.
18:08 That's what they told me.
18:10 We were just kids.
18:13 We just wanted to sing. -That's right.
18:15 It was too complicated.
18:17 I think there was a discussion between Aira Fazira and NSR.
18:21 Aira Fazira let me go to NSR.
18:25 She said, "I think the NSR project is good for my future."
18:30 Aira Fazira said, "I'm doing this for your future."
18:35 At first, I was like, "I'm with you. I don't want to go with others."
18:39 "This is for your future. So, just go."
18:42 That's how it was. -That's so sweet, Aira.
18:46 Aira Fazira, did she ever think about your future?
18:49 No, right? -She didn't know about me.
18:52 We're still in the discussion phase.
18:55 We have a lot of questions.
18:57 We have to discuss.
18:59 How many albums did you release with Boy? -Six.
19:05 I had three full albums.
19:09 I had four or five singles.
19:13 Boy...
19:17 That's right. I had five singles.
19:23 That's a long time. -That's right.
19:25 But, why did you name yourself Boy?
19:29 Why did I name myself Boy?
19:31 I've been asked this question a lot.
19:34 I asked myself, "Why Boy?"
19:37 Because I wanted to keep this name until I was old.
19:40 Like you, Boy Boy. -Even though I was 14.
19:43 I was 14 when I signed the contract.
19:45 When they told me that our band was called Boy Boy,...
19:48 ...I asked myself, "If I'm 40, I won't use Boy Boy."
19:53 I was embarrassed.
19:55 But, the answer was that...
19:59 ...the phenomenon at the time was New Boys.
20:01 So, you had to take New Boys.
20:03 This was to follow the trend.
20:07 The trend was the phenomenon that was started by Boy Boy.
20:10 And, coincidentally, my hair was the same at the time.
20:14 When I sang, my voice was hoarse.
20:18 I thought, "This is the trend."
20:20 It was the trend at the time.
20:23 Okay. After that,...
20:26 ...when I went for a photoshoot,...
20:29 ...most of the photographers said, "You look like Tomok."
20:32 They wanted to strengthen my label to put less names.
20:36 So, when I was chatting, my mother's late mother called me.
20:40 "Boy, how about it?"
20:42 "My name at home is Boy Boy."
20:45 Oh, Papa. -Again.
20:48 When the record label heard that, we named it Boy Boy.
20:52 It was because your name is Boy Boy.
20:54 If people asked me, "What's your name?"
20:56 "It can't be that you're 40."
20:59 "My son can't call me Boy Boy."
21:04 "Papa Boy Boy."
21:06 "What's your name?" "Naki Boy Boy, sir."
21:09 Right?
21:11 But, I gave up.
21:14 Because, whoever was in the label would know.
21:18 Right? -The power.
21:20 I didn't blame the label.
21:22 The label saw the power of the buyers.
21:26 They knew how to put my brand at the time.
21:31 I accepted it. And it worked.
21:35 It worked. -Right.
21:36 It was only a week after the album was released.
21:38 It was already popular. -Right.
21:40 There was a band called New Boy.
21:43 Their name was Boy Boy.
21:44 "Boy Boy!"
21:45 People laughed, but they listened.
21:47 So, the strategy worked. -That's the strategy.
21:50 The name Boy Boy.
21:51 Once they heard it, they wanted to look for the music.
21:53 For the kids at school, they wanted to hear...
21:57 ...what New Boy sounds like.
21:59 It's a good name.
22:01 But, for the older generation, they wanted to hear the name.
22:06 It's a different style.
22:08 That was one of the strategies that worked.
22:12 The marketing strategy. -That's right.
22:14 Sometimes, when a name is too strange,...
22:17 ...we want to look for more.
22:19 Right. -We want to know why.
22:21 And it worked.
22:23 After a week, the name Boy Boy was already popular.
22:26 Right.
22:27 It was very fast. -It was very popular.
22:30 I thought, "Why am I not the one who is Boy Boy?"
22:33 Because you couldn't steal the heart of Eran Fazira.
22:37 That's right. -He's so patient.
22:39 You lost a lot.
22:40 Okay, thank you, Nakyu, for today.
22:42 You're so fast.
22:44 I'm hot.
22:45 You wanted me to call Eran Fazira.
22:47 That's right.
22:49 That's why, when All Star TV asked about a mentor,...
22:53 ...Nakyu answered that Eran Fazira was his mentor.
22:55 Oh! -The first person who discovered his talent...
22:58 ...was Eran Fazira.
22:59 I turned off the TV.
23:01 I thought, "What's going on?"
23:02 I turned it back on when he was singing.
23:04 You don't have to. You were working there.
23:06 I was there. -You were working during the concert.
23:08 I was there. -You didn't turn off the TV.
23:10 You just had to accept it and swallow it.
23:13 Okay.
23:14 I just had to accept it. -Right.
23:16 I'm so embarrassed. -After that,...
23:18 ...how long did you ban Boy Boy?
23:24 This is funny.
23:26 Do you think I'm calling you?
23:29 Okay.
23:30 I've been listening to Boy Boy for a long time.
23:34 How long have you been listening to Boy Boy?
23:37 Actually, I've been listening to Boy Boy for a long time.
23:39 According to the original agreement,...
23:43 ...we were only going to be together until 2005.
23:45 He's starting to get sad.
23:48 The first album was in 2001.
23:51 The second album was in 2002.
23:53 The third album was in 2005.
23:55 After that,...
23:57 ...Boy Boy was supposed to be gone.
23:59 He had his own story.
24:01 We'll tell you later.
24:02 After that,...
24:05 ...Boy Boy changed his lineup.
24:07 We were BBY.
24:09 But, actually, it was Boy Boy.
24:11 We were on the same label.
24:13 The lineup was mostly the same.
24:15 There were only two people.
24:17 So, we were BBY.
24:19 We released a single at that time.
24:21 So, Boy Boy was only going to be around until 2005.
24:25 Boy Boy was only going to be around until 2005.
24:28 After that, it was BBY.
24:30 Actually, it was Boy Boy.
24:31 I was going to say Baby.
24:33 Baby.
24:34 BBY?
24:35 He lost his OO.
24:37 Actually, BBY was a dot.
24:40 The colon was...
24:43 ...embarrassing to use Boy Boy.
24:45 Because he was getting older.
24:48 I started to grow my hair long.
24:50 I wanted to be a rock star.
24:52 He was a bit rough.
24:54 But, I forgot about myself.
24:56 I didn't have to.
24:57 You started with a love story.
24:59 You didn't have to be a rock star.
25:01 But, you brought your rock persona forward.
25:05 But, in a different medium.
25:07 Yes, that's right.
25:08 You went to a different angle.
25:10 You disappeared for a while.
25:11 You brought that persona forward.
25:14 I was gone for 12 years.
25:16 12 years? -Yes, I was gone for 12 years.
25:18 What did you do at that time?
25:21 Okay, if I have to tell you, it's a long story.
25:23 Can I tell you? -Sure.
25:25 After Boy Boy, BBY...
25:29 ...my contract was renewed.
25:34 But, it wasn't with Boy Boy.
25:36 It's a sad story.
25:38 Because, Boy Boy couldn't be sold anymore.
25:40 The phenomenon was over.
25:42 The label wanted me to go solo.
25:45 The thing I didn't want...
25:47 ...was that my soul wasn't in the solo singer at the time.
25:50 I did it on the basis of fulfilling the contract.
25:56 I understand. -My contract at the time...
25:58 ...was 5+1.
26:01 It was supposed to be 4+1.
26:04 It was supposed to be 12 years.
26:06 12 years.
26:07 But, in the 9th year, I felt like...
26:12 ...after releasing my solo album...
26:15 ...I don't know.
26:18 I felt like I couldn't sell it.
26:21 I couldn't sell it. -You could feel it.
26:23 I could feel it.
26:24 It happened.
26:26 I decided to ask for a release from the old label.
26:29 Alhamdulillah, my label understood.
26:31 I agreed. -I said, I couldn't do business...
26:34 ...for you all anymore. Let me go.
26:37 Let me find my own path.
26:39 Or, maybe I'll find another job.
26:42 I got a release.
26:45 After I got the letter, I thought...
26:48 ...I've never done anything in my 18-19 years of life.
26:54 I've never done anything other than playing music.
26:57 I don't even remember playing football.
27:00 I've left it long ago.
27:02 I asked my sister.
27:08 My sister is a singer in a club.
27:11 She asked me to try singing in a different arena.
27:19 I met a brother.
27:25 I asked him if I could sing in a club.
27:28 I wanted to show the world of playing music in this arena.
27:32 He said, "Sure, but do you have a song?"
27:35 "We sing in English. You're from the Cina episode."
27:37 He was shocked.
27:40 "You only sing in English."
27:42 Your sister is a singer in a club? -Yes.
27:45 I didn't have an English song at the time.
27:48 I didn't know where to go after I became popular.
27:51 I just knew my English.
27:53 I just said, "Yes, no, alright."
27:57 But, I had to use slang.
28:02 You got a visa.
28:04 I couldn't get a contract right away.
28:07 I had to start playing for a week.
28:10 It was a week of gigs.
28:12 He gave me 20 songs for the first day.
28:16 I searched for songs for two or three days.
28:20 I was so good at English.
28:23 I had to sing in English.
28:25 I had to do PR for Frontline.
28:27 I had to talk.
28:29 I practiced for three days.
28:31 I practiced for three days just to say good evening.
28:36 Is that true?
28:38 I asked him, "Do you say good evening in the morning or evening?"
28:42 I could tell how good his English was.
28:45 I was successful on the first day.
28:51 I had to work again the next day.
28:54 I was successful on the first day.
28:57 He liked it. -He said, "You can sing."
29:00 But, on the second day, I had to sing 20 songs.
29:06 He gave me a week's gap for 20 songs.
29:10 I had to sing 20 songs for one day.
29:12 That's a different song. -Yes.
29:14 He gave me at least 7 or 8 songs a day.
29:21 I had more and more libraries.
29:24 I could work every day and still be successful.
29:32 After three or four years, I forgot about the mainstream world.
29:36 I had made bands to play in the arena.
29:44 I had strong connections to stay in the industry.
29:50 I didn't want to go back to the mainstream world.
29:55 I didn't want to.
29:57 I've said this many times.
29:59 I didn't want to.
30:01 I had enough of the sweet experience.
30:05 I had a lot of bitter experiences.
30:08 I had to go through a lot of bitterness.
30:11 I didn't have a lot of education.
30:14 I didn't have a lot of knowledge.
30:19 I went through that.
30:21 I don't know how I could open the door to Zanam.
30:27 And, here I am.
30:29 I'm happy to be a part of Jivinam.
30:31 I got to know you through the cable.
30:36 I got to know that you're Nakiu.
30:44 I was like, "Where's Nakiu?"
30:48 "I'm serious, I met him."
30:50 You were gone from the industry.
30:52 I was gone.
30:54 When he mentioned your name, I was like, "He's gone."
30:58 "He's gone. His voice is gone."
31:00 "He's gone."
31:01 "Really?"
31:02 We're excited to see you on Jivinam.
31:05 You did an acoustic performance before that.
31:09 In this studio.
31:11 That was the comeback.
31:14 That's what made people want Nakiu back.
31:17 He joined Jivi.
31:19 Before that, you did an acoustic performance...
31:22 ...with Tomok.
31:24 Tomok, Lan Solo and Firuz.
31:28 How did you end up joining them?
31:32 I didn't know how the team got my number.
31:36 I didn't give my number to anyone in the industry.
31:42 I have a guitarist who has my number.
31:49 The team DMed my guitarist and he gave me my number.
31:55 When the team called, I thought about it.
32:01 I called my guitarist.
32:03 I said, "Kuang Hajo."
32:08 "Give me my number."
32:10 I came to see my old friends and have fun.
32:18 I have nostalgic memories.
32:22 That's what I thought.
32:25 I did that and I went back to my routine.
32:30 I worked.
32:32 I didn't have the desire to be popular again.
32:37 Someone told me, and I didn't know when the video was released.
32:43 I think it was Ali Boboi himself who called me.
32:48 "Your video is viral."
32:50 I'm not the type of person who watches social media.
32:56 What's the point of being viral?
32:58 If you knew me, I wouldn't know about modern things.
33:05 I live by practicing and looking for songs.
33:09 I didn't know what was viral.
33:11 I thought it was something people would watch.
33:15 I thought it was a phenomenon.
33:17 I thought I knew the word.
33:19 I looked it up on YouTube.
33:24 I looked it up.
33:26 I didn't know where to look for comments.
33:31 I thought, "There are a lot of comments."
33:33 "What's the point of commenting?"
33:35 "What's the point of commenting?"
33:37 I looked everywhere.
33:39 I saw a lot of comments mentioning my name.
33:42 "Come back."
33:44 I thought, "Some people remember me."
33:49 But I didn't have the desire.
33:52 I thought, "Let's end it."
33:56 Suddenly, my bandmates who were more excited...
34:03 ...came to see me.
34:05 They said, "Come back."
34:07 "Let's jam together. Let's do something for Boboi."
34:11 I said, "I don't think people will listen to us."
34:15 "People will listen to us but only old songs."
34:18 "My point is, you want to come back...
34:21 ...but you still play the same old stuff."
34:24 "Let them watch it on YouTube. They can do karaoke."
34:28 "I think it's better for the people who sing that song...
34:31 ...than me singing."
34:33 "Let them sing our song."
34:35 "But we want to play the same old stuff...
34:38 ...that we've been playing for decades."
34:40 "That's all we have."
34:42 "Let's not come back. It's a waste of time."
34:45 At that time, you wanted to leave Boboi.
34:49 -That's what he sounded like. -He was tough.
34:51 I thought he was my friend.
34:54 He was my brother.
34:56 He was my brother-in-law.
34:58 I would go to the jamming studio...
35:01 ...and I would jam whenever I wanted.
35:03 I wanted to hang out with him.
35:05 I wanted to play.
35:07 But, that was just for fun.
35:09 I didn't want to think about selling it.
35:13 That's how it was for me.
35:15 They kept on persuading me until the offer for GV6 came.
35:19 The offer for GV6 came in 2019...
35:22 ...from five companies.
35:27 Management companies.
35:29 -The ones who manage the dacos. -Yes.
35:31 I rejected all three of them.
35:35 They were talking about GV6.
35:38 I didn't want to.
35:39 My friends told me...
35:42 ...that I should try it out.
35:45 I was like, "What's the point of GV6?"
35:48 They were talking about the competition at the Estoros.
35:51 I knew what GV6 was.
35:55 -The concept. -The concept.
35:57 But, I didn't look at it.
35:59 Until 2019, when three offers came, I rejected them.
36:02 They were talking about GV6.
36:04 I didn't want to accept the offer.
36:08 I didn't want to accept the offer.
36:10 Sometimes, they were just "GV6".
36:13 I didn't want to accept it.
36:14 Thank you, bye.
36:16 I'm sorry.
36:18 That's right.
36:20 I'm sorry.
36:22 I don't want to come back.
36:24 Not at all.
36:26 When the fourth company came, I was like, "Okay, I'll think about it."
36:30 Company?
36:33 Sorry, I'll think about the third company.
36:37 I was like, "This company..."
36:42 "It's like they're forcing me to do something."
36:45 -They're pressuring you. -Yes.
36:47 When I thought about the third company,...
36:50 ...I started asking my wife about the fourth company.
36:54 Okay.
36:55 But, to be honest, I was interested in the fourth company.
37:00 The fourth one.
37:02 I asked my wife, "GV6 has so many offers."
37:07 "This is the fourth company."
37:09 My wife said, "Why don't you just try it?"
37:14 "At least, don't disappoint people."
37:16 "People come with high expectations."
37:19 "Some companies have been rejected, but they still come."
37:23 "Try again."
37:25 The fourth company came to my workplace for a week.
37:29 Even though I had been rejected.
37:31 I was like, "They're so serious."
37:34 I asked my bandmates.
37:38 When they heard the word, they were like, "Gegar."
37:44 They were like, "Baganza."
37:47 "Come on, Dik."
37:49 -He's a different person. -They're the players.
37:52 They told me, "You have to come in. If you don't, we won't accept you."
37:56 -You got threatened. -I thought they were my brothers.
38:00 I'm the youngest.
38:01 They call me "brother".
38:03 I was like, "I don't want to be friends with them."
38:06 "How could you throw away your 20 years of friendship...
38:08 ...for a band like Gegar Baganza?"
38:10 So, I was like, "Okay, this is a sign for me."
38:16 I tried.
38:18 I told the fourth company, "I'll just give it a try.
38:22 We'll audition first.
38:23 Don't put too much hope on me.
38:28 I don't know anything about this world.
38:31 I'll just give it a try."
38:33 Not long after, the fifth company came.
38:36 The third company waited for the fourth company...
38:43 ...and the fifth company came.
38:45 I had to decide which company to go to.
38:47 That was the first thing.
38:49 Who was going to represent you?
38:51 I promised a lot of people, but I rejected the fifth company.
38:56 I said, "I'm sorry. I'm thinking of going to one of the two companies."
39:00 I chose my current company.
39:04 It was a week.
39:07 I saw their sincerity.
39:11 I looked fierce.
39:14 But deep down, I was like, "I'm going to go for it."
39:18 They put a lot of hope in me.
39:21 I felt like I was priceless in the mainstream industry.
39:26 I felt like I was appreciated.
39:30 That's why I auditioned.
39:32 We all know what happened when I joined Gegar Baganza.
39:38 I met you both today.
39:43 I think a lot of people know about your journey.
39:46 I think a lot of people don't know what happened to you at 12.
39:49 But, you've gone up and down.
39:55 I heard you fought a lot with yourself.
39:59 Yes.
40:01 Let's get into the sad story.
40:04 But, I still want to make a funny face.
40:11 I don't think I need to go back to the past...
40:14 ...because I was once in a young age with a lot of money.
40:18 I don't have the money I used to have.
40:24 It's hard to find a hundred.
40:26 My salary was from RM15,000 a week, minimum,...
40:32 ...to RM400 a month.
40:35 RM15,000 a week?
40:38 Minimum.
40:40 I never got less than RM15,000 a week.
40:44 I brought the money in my school bag.
40:47 That's a lot.
40:49 I brought the money to school.
40:52 I put the money aside and kept the book.
40:55 I got RM400 a month.
40:57 When I got RM400 a month, I was at the age of getting RM15,000.
41:05 I was 18 or 19.
41:07 You were mature. -Yes.
41:09 But, I didn't have that.
41:11 I borrowed clothes and shoes.
41:18 I borrowed everything.
41:20 I wanted to go to work.
41:23 Luckily, my sister worked in the same field.
41:27 I asked her for help.
41:29 But, she had her own problems.
41:31 I borrowed from people.
41:36 I wanted to eat but I didn't have money.
41:39 My parents were going to support me.
41:46 But, I took care of them.
41:50 I took care of them since I was 15.
41:53 I wanted to make things difficult for them at 18.
41:55 I thought, "I shouldn't. I should be happy at 18."
41:58 I took a detour to find a house.
42:02 I tried to find a job so I wouldn't make things difficult for them.
42:05 I didn't tell them that I was struggling.
42:08 I went out and didn't tell them about my problems.
42:13 I borrowed clothes.
42:17 I didn't have a house to live in.
42:19 Where did you sleep? -I slept at someone's house.
42:24 One day, a relative took me in.
42:31 I stayed there and ate what we ate.
42:34 He said, "If you want to go out, we'll give you money."
42:39 "Don't give us a cent."
42:41 They took care of me for 6-7 years.
42:45 I went through that phase.
42:50 No one in the industry thought of me at that time.
42:54 Why did I return?
42:58 That was the reason.
43:00 No one was looking for me.
43:02 On my first day at the PCG, people asked me why I went missing.
43:11 I felt like I had no value.
43:13 No one wanted me.
43:15 I felt like I was not needed.
43:19 I was busy looking for a place in this industry...
43:23 ...when I didn't have a place of my own.
43:25 I preferred to look for a place to make music in another arena.
43:32 But, I guess you didn't lose your passion for music.
43:37 You didn't lose your passion and your faith in the industry.
43:41 Half of the people left it.
43:45 They were upset with music.
43:47 I still felt like I could make music.
43:53 I just needed to find a platform.
43:56 We didn't know if I was lucky to be out there.
44:02 I was positive.
44:06 But, I felt like I had no place in the industry.
44:10 At that time.
44:12 You're the one who got me upset.
44:15 I was disappointed.
44:18 You didn't want to go back to the industry...
44:23 ...even though you were more popular.
44:25 Yes.
44:26 I was popular twice.
44:28 When I was young and when I was mature.
44:30 Can you share with us when you got married?
44:34 I got married...
44:36 Edit this out.
44:40 He forgot his wife.
44:42 It's only been a year.
44:44 He forgot his wife.
44:46 It's only been a year.
44:48 I think I was 24 or 25.
44:50 It's okay if you don't know.
44:52 Don't worry.
44:54 My wife will know.
44:56 I don't even remember her birthday.
44:59 Do you believe that my wife remembers my birthday?
45:04 What year was it? -1946.
45:07 I'm nervous.
45:09 Why?
45:11 We men have a lot to remember.
45:14 I'm afraid I might say something wrong.
45:17 Just say it. I'm okay with it.
45:19 Do you know that she's your daughter?
45:21 It's important to have a wife.
45:24 It's important.
45:28 It's only for that year.
45:30 What do you mean?
45:32 You have to appreciate your wife.
45:34 I appreciate my wife.
45:37 But, to remember her birthday...
45:39 ...is not my part.
45:41 We need a wife.
45:43 I need to remember the lyrics of the song.
45:45 If my wife wants a present, I'll remember it.
45:48 I need to remember the lyrics.
45:50 If I don't remember the lyrics, I won't have money to buy a present.
45:53 I need to remember that my responsibility is bigger.
45:56 He's a different person.
45:58 I'm tired.
46:00 I'm lucky I got a wife.
46:02 I don't know what else I can say.
46:04 Sometimes, people tell me that it's their daughter's wedding anniversary.
46:07 We're tired of working.
46:12 You might have a lot of information.
46:14 You might be thinking, "What should I ask my guest today?"
46:16 You're still thinking about that.
46:18 We understand.
46:20 When is your wife's birthday?
46:22 It's March.
46:24 March is the same.
46:26 March is March.
46:28 March 19th.
46:30 We'll talk about something else.
46:32 I'm afraid of this.
46:34 But, if the people at home....
46:37 Finish it.
46:39 If the people at home are thinking, "Nakiu is famous now."
46:43 "He must be a female fan."
46:45 "He's not like other women. Many are interested in him."
46:50 That's what they think.
46:52 Are you jealous of Nakiu?
46:54 Do you fight with him?
46:56 My wife is a singer.
47:02 She's in the same band.
47:04 We met there.
47:06 We met there, fell in love and got married there.
47:09 Not married there.
47:11 But, it's an industry.
47:13 I'm afraid people will misunderstand.
47:15 We have to be careful with what we say.
47:17 That's the headline.
47:19 "Is there no other place for Nakiu to get married?"
47:21 Everything is wrong.
47:23 We got married.
47:28 You have to understand.
47:31 When we met in the industry,
47:34 the expectations were higher.
47:36 He's faced many things.
47:41 I can be naughty.
47:45 I'm not mean. I'm just naughty.
47:49 That's why I'm loved by her.
47:52 It's the same.
47:54 I've asked her about female fans.
48:04 I asked her, "Don't you love me?"
48:07 She was not jealous.
48:09 Do you like jealous couples?
48:12 A little bit.
48:14 I'm just asking questions.
48:18 I'm weird.
48:23 I always hear that some artists are jealous.
48:26 "Don't do this, don't do that."
48:28 Sometimes, I get a fake DM and show it to her.
48:31 I show her the pictures.
48:33 She's like, "Haha, you're so annoying."
48:35 That's all she gave me.
48:37 Simple.
48:39 I asked her, "Are you never jealous?"
48:41 One thing, they're my fans.
48:45 I never hide my feelings.
48:50 Everyone knows that I'm married.
48:52 It depends on their intentions.
48:55 If they're interested in you,
48:58 you have to remember that they're your fans.
49:01 They're not my wife.
49:03 How do I say this?
49:09 You have to remember.
49:11 You.
49:13 You.
49:17 Okay, you.
49:19 You're better.
49:21 You have to remember.
49:25 If you don't have female fans,
49:27 who will support you?
49:29 If you release a product,
49:33 who will buy it?
49:35 You have to treat them well.
49:37 They'll get mad if I don't.
49:39 If I'm with my kids,
49:42 and they want to take pictures,
49:44 I won't notice.
49:45 They'll get mad.
49:46 They'll call them to come here.
49:48 Don't be afraid.
49:49 We don't eat people.
49:51 My wife appreciates my fans.
49:53 My fans are close to her.
49:54 My FC is close to her.
49:56 But if they want to do more,
50:00 I have to think about it.
50:02 If they stop me,
50:04 I'll do it.
50:06 It's up to us.
50:07 If you clap your hands,
50:08 they won't hear you.
50:09 That's right.
50:10 I have to think about it.
50:12 It's not about whether they love me or not.
50:15 It's about whether they love their kids.
50:18 When they use their kids,
50:20 they'll get mad.
50:22 They'll get mad.
50:24 They'll get mad.
50:26 They'll get mad.
50:27 We have to agree to that.
50:29 If it's a wife, she'll involve her kids.
50:31 If it's a kid, we'll surrender.
50:34 That's right.
50:35 At the end of the day,
50:37 you don't have to worry about your partner.
50:39 If your partner knows her responsibilities,
50:42 her duties, her limits.
50:44 If she's being held back,
50:45 she'll do it.
50:46 That's right.
50:48 You'll be afraid of her getting mad.
50:50 I have a goal.
50:51 If she's being held back,
50:52 she'll do it.
50:53 That's right.
50:54 Don't be held back.
50:56 Naiq, what are your plans after All Star in Gagal, Pagansar?
51:01 Maybe you'll come back with BoBoy,
51:03 or a concert.
51:04 Or you'll go on a holiday.
51:06 Which one?
51:07 The first thing is to go on a holiday.
51:10 Because for the past few weeks,
51:13 I've been working for 7 days a week.
51:16 And it's more than 15 hours a day.
51:19 So, I'm going on a holiday.
51:21 And, God willing,
51:23 BoBoy and I will have new material.
51:26 And for Solo,
51:28 it's almost there.
51:32 God willing,
51:36 the process for the concert,
51:39 we're actually looking for people...
51:42 who are qualified to organise it.
51:44 Because, if we're talking about a concert,
51:46 many people have approached us...
51:48 to help us organise the concert.
51:50 But, there aren't many people...
51:52 who can be trusted.
51:54 So, we have to find the right people.
51:56 Because this involves people's money.
51:59 So, I don't want people to pay for the tickets...
52:02 and get the result...
52:04 that's not worth the price they paid.
52:07 So, even if there's no concert,
52:09 promise not to embarrass people...
52:11 in that way.
52:13 With other complications...
52:15 for the production.
52:17 That's right.
52:18 I like to ask you other questions.
52:20 I've asked you about Paizal Tahir.
52:22 And a few artists.
52:24 I'm not the last one.
52:25 Maybe the second last.
52:26 I'm the last.
52:27 That's a lot.
52:29 If in a school,
52:30 there's a part of the work...
52:33 of a mother.
52:34 Okay, I know.
52:35 It's easy.
52:36 It's easy to do housework.
52:37 What would you put in your father's work?
52:39 Be sincere.
52:42 I'll be honest.
52:44 And I know that...
52:45 maybe half of the people...
52:46 won't be comfortable with this.
52:48 I've never been to my son's school.
52:51 I only...
52:52 My job is to send and pick up my son.
52:54 But, for other things,
52:56 like filling the trash,
52:57 it's all my wife's work.
52:58 You never knew?
52:59 What's in your father's work?
53:01 Working alone.
53:03 I understand.
53:05 But, my wife's work.
53:07 What's the salary?
53:09 I just want to know.
53:12 In the school's children's book,
53:14 what's the name...
53:15 These are all words I don't understand.
53:17 These are just the parents.
53:18 What's the name of the work?
53:21 What's the monthly salary?
53:23 I don't know what my wife's work is.
53:25 I'm getting teary-eyed.
53:27 If I'm the one who's filling,
53:30 I'll say, "Why are you so busy?"
53:32 She'll ask me again.
53:34 I'll write, "Why are you so busy?"
53:35 "What's your salary?"
53:36 I'll write it down.
53:37 "What's your salary?"
53:38 You'll say that?
53:39 Suddenly, I'll write it down.
53:42 You're still a BNC.
53:44 I'm just joking.
53:45 I just want to know what my work is.
53:47 Working alone is okay.
53:48 Some people write, "Working alone is okay."
53:51 I'm stuck there.
53:53 What's your salary?
53:54 I'm just a radio announcer.
53:56 It's the same.
54:00 You're lost.
54:01 I'm the same.
54:02 My wife's the one who fills it.
54:03 I don't know what's in it.
54:04 But, I think that's all.
54:06 Working alone or whatever.
54:08 My wife's smart.
54:10 I'm like a kid.
54:12 I'm usually the one who's smart.
54:14 That's right.
54:16 This is the last one.
54:18 Be honest.
54:19 I've been honest since just now?
54:21 No.
54:22 The way you asked was honest.
54:24 He's like...
54:25 I've been talking for an hour.
54:27 That's right.
54:28 Be honest.
54:30 Honest?
54:31 I'm speaking English.
54:33 I'm not that smart.
54:34 But, be honest.
54:36 That's "know".
54:38 I thought you meant...
54:40 Be silent.
54:41 Be honest.
54:42 I can't speak English well.
54:44 Okay, this is how you're a "know".
54:46 I'm just telling you.
54:48 Now, I know why Ka'erah loves me.
54:52 I'm not kidding.
54:55 I have to agree with you.
54:57 If you're like this, Ka'erah won't love you.
55:00 It's okay.
55:01 I'll make our gas bigger.
55:04 I'll give her a pass.
55:05 Then, we'll have to lift it.
55:07 Okay, Nakyu.
55:08 It's easy.
55:10 Do you prefer Nakyu with BoBoiBoy...
55:12 ...or the current Nakyu?
55:13 This is a tough question.
55:17 Which one do you prefer?
55:22 Do you prefer Nakyu with BoBoiBoy...
55:24 ...in his 13th year...
55:26 ...or the current Nakyu?
55:27 If you ask me, I'll say...
55:30 ...BoBoiBoy four years ago.
55:32 But, when you ask me now,...
55:34 ...why did I choose him?
55:36 To me, performing alone is not fun.
55:40 When there are band members...
55:44 ...and our own friends,...
55:47 ...we'll feel responsible to them...
55:50 ...and they'll feel responsible to us.
55:52 Everyone will give their best.
55:54 When we're alone, we'll be...
55:57 ...looking to the right and left.
55:59 It's quiet.
56:00 When we're singing, the audience will be...
56:02 ...quiet too.
56:04 We'll be like, "What should I do?"
56:06 When we're doing a comedy, we'll know.
56:08 We'll understand.
56:10 But, when you ask me now,...
56:12 ...both are fun because...
56:14 ...I can experiment with music...
56:17 ...that way.
56:19 I can't bring that to Nakyu.
56:22 Both are fun.
56:24 Both are different.
56:26 If I perform the same thing,...
56:29 ...I don't need BoBoiBoy or Nakyu.
56:31 I can choose.
56:33 If I want to be BoBoiBoy or Nakyu.
56:35 When you ask me now,...
56:37 ...both are fun because...
56:39 ...they're different ways of performing.
56:43 I can express my creativity...
56:46 ...with different methods.
56:48 That's it.
56:49 Am I smart? -Yes.
56:51 That's my love for Kaira.
56:53 Once again.
56:55 With band members, we'll have fun.
56:58 At the same time, you cover me, I cover you.
57:01 You have the energy.
57:03 If we're solo, we don't need to be nervous.
57:05 We can move around on our own.
57:07 Some people say, "I'll answer. Why? I'm Nakyu."
57:10 You're trying to give a smart answer like me...
57:14 ...because you love Kaira.
57:16 It looks like that. It's obvious, Falik.
57:18 But, you don't have to repeat my answer.
57:21 That's all for this week's episode.
57:24 Thank you, Nakyu.
57:26 Thank you, Sina.
57:28 I hope you get what you want.
57:31 Thank you.
57:32 Peace be upon you. Bye!
57:34 I love you, Kaira.
57:37 To be continued.
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