Strict Supercar laws, Ford Mustang Dark Horse and Gran Turismo the movie!

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Joining Sean this week are Scott Collie and Jade Credentino.  Scott talks about his recent trip to the USA to watch NASCAR and drive the new Ford Mustang Dark Horse, Jade runs us through some new laws surrounding supercars in South Australia, and the new Gran Turismo movie is in the spotlight as the gang share their thoughts on the film and their favourite car movies.  Welcome to our new video podcast! While we've been publishing the CarExpert podcast as an audio podcast for some time, we wanted to change things up with a video podcast! It is hosted by Sean Lander (one of our videographers).  Read about the South Australia Supercar laws: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/how-south-australias-tough-new-laws-will-affect-drivers  Skip Ahead: Intro: 00:00 New Supercar laws: 01:09 Ford Mustang Dark Horse: 09:47 Gran Turismo review: 17:17 Outro: 26:51  We review every new car on the market, bust car myths, cover the latest car tech and answer your burning questions.  Whether you need new car advice, purchase validation or simply love learning more about new cars and technology, we are your car experts.  Subscribe to Car Expert: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7DvMhvy3H7ntEgn9n3xQcQ?sub_confirmation=1  You'll find us dropping new video content three times a week. If you'd like to ask a question about one of our videos, simply leave us a comment. If you'd like to give us any feedback on our content, feel free to email us, or alternatively, hit us up on social media.  Finally, we want this channel to grow with your support and feedback. If there's anything you don't like or would like to see us change, we'd love to hear from you!  Follow us on social media to see what we're up to and to ask any questions!  CarExpert: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CarExpertAus Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/CarExpertAus Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carexpert.com.au  Paul Maric: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PaulMaric Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/PaulMaric Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/PaulMaric

Transcript

00:00 G'day, I'm Sean and welcome to the all-new Car Expert podcast.

00:03 Now we have a really fast podcast for you today.

00:05 We're going to be talking about muscle cars, supercars and race cars.

00:09 Now joining me, fresh from Charlotte Motor Speedway, is Scott Colley.

00:13 How you doing Scott?

00:14 Sean, if you're not first, you're last baby.

00:16 Shake a bike.

00:16 I'm a convert.

00:17 And joining us for her debut on the podcast this week,

00:21 the master of office snacks and viral content at Car Expert, Jade Credentino.

00:26 Jade, welcome to the Car Expert podcast.

00:27 It is so nice to be here and I got the two best in the business.

00:31 So what more can I ask for?

00:32 Jade knows how to get invited.

00:33 Yeah, you can come back any time.

00:35 No matter what happens today, you're welcome back.

00:37 Scott, you've just come back from the States.

00:40 How was your little jaunt over to North Carolina?

00:42 Yeah, it was awesome.

00:43 Little jaunt, very serious work trip, just to make that really clear.

00:48 But I was over there driving the new Mustang Dark Horse

00:50 and we started at Charlotte in North Carolina and drove on the Oval,

00:53 which we'll get to, and then finished up in Washington DC after a bit of a road trip.

00:58 It's part of the States I haven't seen before.

01:00 Very, very interesting.

01:01 We also had a bit of NASCAR exposure, which was awesome fun.

01:04 Very cool.

01:04 We are going to talk about that.

01:06 We've got a lot of that coming up, so stick around.

01:08 But Jade, we're going to get started.

01:09 Now, you broke a story fresh out of South Australia

01:13 about some interesting laws around supercar owners.

01:16 So we want to tell us a bit about that.

01:18 Yeah, so it was actually really interesting.

01:20 Based on an accident that happened in 2019,

01:24 where a pedestrian unfortunately lost their life

01:27 from being hit by a supercar,

01:28 South Australian government decided to reform a lot of their road rules

01:33 and a lot of their road laws.

01:34 And so now we have all these road rules that have come out.

01:38 And the most, I guess, shocking one, or one that, you know,

01:42 people are kind of up in arms about is a special license for supercar drivers.

01:47 So Lamborghinis, Porsches even fit under that, Maseratis, Bugattis.

01:52 So it's very interesting.

01:54 So just to fill you in, if you are playing along at home,

01:56 they're going to call it a U-class license.

01:58 And basically, if you drive a high-powered vehicle

02:01 that's under four and a half tonne GVM, but over 276 kilowatt per tonne,

02:06 which is cars like the Aventador, the 488, McLaren 720S.

02:10 The one that surprised me was actually the 911 Turbo S.

02:12 I didn't realise it was quite that powerful.

02:14 You're going to have to get this license to actually drive your car.

02:18 That's right, isn't it?

02:19 Yeah, that's correct.

02:20 So the licensing, from what I understand,

02:23 the South Australian government will give 270 vehicle owners

02:27 that will be affected by this, a grace period until December 2024

02:32 to go and get this license from a basic Google search.

02:35 One of the only places in the world that actually requires

02:38 supercar drivers to have such a license.

02:40 I think the thing that jumps out at me about this

02:43 is one of the sections there that we've got here,

02:44 and it's you can't turn off your safety systems,

02:47 because that was, I believe, a factor in the crash

02:50 that caused those laws to start with.

02:52 So if you do disable your ABS, which is pretty difficult to do,

02:55 but your autonomous emergency braking, stability or traction control,

02:59 you're actually liable for further punishment in South Australia

03:01 in these vehicles, relative to if you'd left them on.

03:04 And I can understand the logic behind it,

03:07 but I also know that it's a really easy thing to do in these cars.

03:11 BMW has a button in its really powerful cars where you press it

03:13 and it turns everything off because you're on a track.

03:15 But obviously people use that on the road as well.

03:17 I do think it'll make people think twice

03:20 before taking things into their own hands,

03:22 but I am also curious to know if there isn't a crash,

03:25 how it's going to be enforced,

03:26 because if you get pulled over by the police,

03:28 it's pretty simple to press the traction control button

03:30 and turn it back on.

03:31 And I doubt Lamborghini is going to be sharing that information

03:33 with police unless there is a serious accident.

03:35 - That's a good point.

03:36 One thing, I do want to come back to how they're going to get the license in a moment,

03:40 but just on that point, I think like,

03:42 hooning laws are quite strong in a lot of states in Australia.

03:47 So could they potentially impound the car under hooning laws

03:51 and then check the computer?

03:53 Like we know they do after an accident, they check the computer logs.

03:55 So is that something they could do?

03:57 - Potentially.

03:58 I don't have a good answer for you

03:59 because I'm not a South Australian lawyer, unfortunately.

04:02 But yeah, I think obviously that this is something

04:06 that only really comes into force over a certain sort of threshold.

04:09 It's not as if you're driving down the main street in your supercar,

04:12 you're going to get pulled over and asked,

04:13 "Hey sir, do you have the traction control on?"

04:15 So maybe we're playing in the margins a little bit.

04:17 I just do find interesting now that the law is extending

04:21 beyond just the outcome and it's looking at the inputs

04:24 that led to it as well in your car.

04:26 And I wonder if it's something other states may look at.

04:28 - I do hope so.

04:29 Now I'm a big believer that if you kill someone in your car,

04:33 you should serve a very hefty prison sentence.

04:35 There was an incident in Sydney a couple of years ago

04:39 where someone driving a McLaren did hit a cyclist,

04:42 caused them, they didn't kill them,

04:43 but they caused a lot of damage to that poor cyclist.

04:46 And they got a 12 month prison sentence, which is terrible.

04:50 Like that's not enough in my opinion.

04:51 If you shoot someone, you go to prison for a lot longer than that.

04:54 So I think they said five years for a basic offence,

04:59 seven years for an aggravated offence,

05:01 which is like driving under the influence,

05:02 turning off these safety systems.

05:05 That's...

05:05 - Yeah, correct.

05:06 So another interesting point is that in 2019,

05:10 when this accident happened,

05:12 from my understanding, the driver only got 12 months.

05:14 That was the maximum penalty for basically killing someone

05:18 with a supercar at that time.

05:20 So that's also why this law has now been introduced.

05:24 And they've also increased the maximum penalty punishment time.

05:28 They've also changed what they define as an aggravated offence.

05:32 So definitely head over to the carexpert.com.au website

05:36 and you can find all the information there.

05:38 But it's really interesting to see what they define

05:40 an aggravated offence versus a basic offence,

05:42 because some states wouldn't even classify certain,

05:47 I guess, parameters as a basic offence.

05:49 So they've really honed down on how strict

05:51 they're going to be on these drivers.

05:52 - Can we just sort of hone in on the fact here

05:54 that I actually don't mind the idea of,

05:57 if you have a really powerful car,

05:58 you need some understanding of the damage that can cause,

06:00 because I mean, cars in general are getting more powerful,

06:03 but it seems like every day there's a new story

06:05 of someone with a really fancy, fast car

06:07 doing some sort of damage,

06:08 either showing off and crashing into something stationary

06:11 or actually hurting someone.

06:12 This is around the world, not just in Australia.

06:14 But all cars are capable of doing damage,

06:17 even from a little Kia Picanto with a long enough run-up

06:21 all the way through to the really high-end stuff.

06:22 If we're acknowledging now that

06:25 if you can cause damage with your car,

06:26 you should be more aware of that and be trained better.

06:29 Surely that's an acknowledgement

06:30 that maybe everyone needs better training

06:33 and maybe this U-Class licence or whatever goes into it

06:37 could just become the baseline

06:38 for everyone getting a licence in South Australia.

06:40 - Yeah, I think, so one of the things

06:42 in terms of getting the U-Class licence,

06:44 it's proposed that they'll have to do an online test together.

06:48 - Correct, yes.

06:49 - That's, excuse the language, crap.

06:52 Everyone knows that you can't lie in an online form.

06:54 It's like when you log on to jackdaniels.com

06:56 and they say, "Are you 18? Yes or no?"

06:58 It's impossible to lie there, so.

07:00 - I think that's a huge problem.

07:02 I mean, I understand that if you have a supercar,

07:05 there's a very good chance

07:05 you've probably been to a track day.

07:07 If you purchase a Lamborghini,

07:08 Lamborghini probably taking you to a track day,

07:10 but it's still not teaching you

07:12 the handling characteristics of a car on a road.

07:16 So, just as an example,

07:18 if you want to operate a drone for filming purposes

07:22 that weighs more than two kilograms,

07:24 you have to go and spend 10 grand

07:26 to do a two-week course

07:28 and get a whole heap of certifications

07:30 to actually be able to fly that drone.

07:31 Now, you still can't fly it over people's heads.

07:33 You still can't fly it in the airports

07:34 without proper permission,

07:35 but it's a very strict licensing scheme

07:37 to be able to do that.

07:38 But yet you can get in a two-ton missile

07:41 that could do 300 kilometers an hour

07:42 after sitting a Buzzfeed quest.

07:44 That doesn't make sense, does it?

07:46 - Not really, no.

07:48 But I do think it's a step in the right direction

07:50 because it is at least forcing people

07:51 to be conscious of what can happen.

07:53 And I do think part of the problem with cars in general,

07:56 not just these supercars,

07:57 'cause I don't want to demonize the people

07:59 who buy these cars.

08:00 A lot of them are real enthusiasts

08:01 who have worked really hard to earn them

08:03 and they're not out to do any damage

08:04 or do anything stupid.

08:05 I think we need to say that.

08:07 But I also know in my experience,

08:10 just being exposed to the damage that can be caused,

08:12 and I think of on track, for example,

08:14 the number of times you've been driving something fast,

08:17 on track and made a small mistake

08:18 and almost had an accident

08:20 or felt the car move on you and that sort of thing.

08:22 And it really pulls your ego back into check.

08:24 I think this is not quite at that level,

08:26 but at least it makes people consider

08:28 the consequences of their actions

08:30 and really aware that when you put your foot down

08:32 in your 911 Turbo S, it really can cause some harm.

08:35 So yes, it's a bit tokenistic,

08:37 but the idea of forcing people at least to go,

08:41 "I'm doing something, I'm doing it consciously,

08:42 I'm doing it with knowledge of the penalties

08:44 and the impact it could have,"

08:45 is a move in the right direction.

08:47 - Yeah, look, I feel like if they're going to introduce

08:49 a licensing scheme, they should do it properly.

08:51 You know, you can't just do an online course

08:53 and get a truck license.

08:54 You know, so it seems like they're,

08:57 it's just from my personal opinion,

08:59 it seems like they're not quite going far.

09:01 And like you said, I don't want to demonize supercar drivers.

09:03 A lot of them are lovely, lovely people,

09:05 but yeah, it's still a car that,

09:08 yeah, it handles a bit differently

09:10 to a Picanto, for instance.

09:11 - I think it'd be interesting to see also

09:14 to the level of detail they're going to go into,

09:17 because a Lamborghini compared to a Porsche 911,

09:21 they're very different, they handle very differently.

09:23 The power to weight ratios can also be very different.

09:25 So I think it'll be very interesting to see

09:27 when it does come out,

09:28 even just me having a basic understanding

09:32 of how these cars work and in certain situations,

09:35 whether the information that they quiz you on

09:37 and the information that they give drivers,

09:38 whether that's adaptable to all vehicles,

09:41 or whether it's going to be specific to,

09:43 you know, specific Lamborghinis or Porsches or whatever.

09:45 - Well, while we're saying that there should be

09:48 stricter licensing for fast cars,

09:50 let's move on to Scott's little trip to the States

09:53 where he drove not quite as fast a car,

09:55 but tell us a little bit.

09:57 So you flew over to North Carolina,

10:00 which is the home of Charlotte Motor Speedway,

10:02 which if you are a racing enthusiast,

10:05 you know is the home of the Coca-Cola 600,

10:07 which is an insane NASCAR race.

10:09 It's 600 miles around an oval.

10:11 The average speed is 193 kilometers an hour

10:13 for five hours straight.

10:14 I presume you didn't quite reach those speeds?

10:18 - I went faster than that.

10:20 - Oh, did you?

10:20 - We did.

10:21 So yeah, Charlotte is the home of NASCAR.

10:24 It's home to the NASCAR Hall of Fame,

10:26 which we went and had a look at while we were over there.

10:28 But that Charlotte Motor Speedway

10:30 is pretty ingrained in the racing culture.

10:33 So it kind of made sense for Ford

10:34 to launch the Mustang there.

10:36 We got to drive on the Roval.

10:39 So it's a combination road course and oval.

10:41 You start in the pits

10:43 and pull out straight onto the banking,

10:44 which is 22, 23 degrees, something like that.

10:47 It is properly steep

10:48 and it's completely sort of eye-opening

10:51 when you first hop up on there.

10:52 We went around in a bus to start with

10:54 and it felt like the bus was gonna topple over.

10:56 - Everyone was on the right side just hanging out the edge.

11:00 - But yeah, fastest I got around the oval

11:01 was 133 mile an hour.

11:03 It's about 215 Ks an hour.

11:06 And then from there, you're breaking into a hairpin

11:08 and you tuck into the road course.

11:09 And yeah, the Mustang is pretty quick.

11:12 It's got a five liter Coyote V8,

11:14 still naturally aspirated,

11:15 but it's now got 373 kilowatts and 567 Newton meters.

11:20 - So it's the most powerful naturally aspirated Mustang ever.

11:22 - It is.

11:23 - Yeah, that's wild.

11:24 - Ford keeps sort of turning that engine up.

11:27 We actually spoke with some of the people

11:28 behind the development of the car

11:29 and they said they looked at a hybrid or a plug-in hybrid

11:32 and then just landed on more grunt from the V8.

11:34 - So they looked at a hybrid and laughed.

11:36 (laughing)

11:36 And then, yeah, they said freedom and kept going.

11:39 - But they have made some changes.

11:40 So the six speed manual in this car is a Tremec gearbox.

11:43 The Mustang GT, which is sort of the more road oriented one,

11:46 gets a Getrag gearbox.

11:47 It's a little bit less track focused.

11:49 They've also made some tweaks to the 10 speed automatic.

11:52 It is definitely better,

11:53 but it still feels determined to try every single gear.

11:56 In a car like this, which has got five liters of displacement,

11:59 so much power, so much torque, you need about three gears.

12:02 So the fact it's got 10 speeds is just too many.

12:04 But it's sort of a heavy step forward from the last car,

12:08 which was the Mach 1,

12:09 and it really does feel like an improvement.

12:12 - So I think a few people are divided on the looks.

12:15 I'm not a huge fan of the looks of the Dark Horse.

12:18 I think that they've got a bit too much plastic,

12:20 like black plastic on the front,

12:21 looks like it's wearing eye shadow.

12:22 The funny thing is I look at the V8 supercars, Mustangs,

12:25 and I think they look fantastic.

12:27 So Jade, what do you think of the looks of the new Mustang?

12:30 - It's hard because I feel like

12:33 I just get constantly surprised every time

12:36 we get something in our emails

12:38 and something's been revealed.

12:39 I'm like, wow, I wasn't expecting this.

12:41 Look, I think Ford has done a good enough job

12:45 that people are still going to buy it.

12:46 They're still going to look at that and be like-

12:48 - Such thank you.

12:48 - Yeah.

12:49 - It's not so ugly that it's unbuyable.

12:51 - Exactly.

12:52 So yeah, look, I think they're going to buy it.

12:54 Is it going to appeal to everybody?

12:56 Probably not.

12:57 Like you said, maybe a bit too much eye shadow,

12:59 but it just looks like it had a good night out.

13:02 So that would be what I would say.

13:05 - I think also having seen it in person,

13:07 there are bits of it I don't love,

13:09 but compared to the last car,

13:10 it's a really interesting evolution.

13:12 It definitely looks a little bit,

13:14 sleeker is probably the word for it.

13:16 It doesn't look as dopey at the front.

13:18 It's a little bit sort of sharper,

13:20 the lines along the side of it.

13:21 Some of the eye shadow stuff I agree with,

13:24 but the red car we drove in particular,

13:26 I think we've got some footage going somewhere here.

13:28 - If you're watching YouTube, you can see it.

13:29 We'll show you an image right now of the red one.

13:31 - Yeah.

13:31 But it actually looks really neat in person.

13:34 And the black highlights,

13:35 provided you don't get the appearance pack,

13:37 which gives you extra black stuff,

13:39 they're not too much.

13:40 So I was kind of with you in the pictures.

13:42 I wasn't a huge fan, but in person,

13:44 it really won me over very quickly.

13:45 - And the other thing that is,

13:46 I think a big winning aspect,

13:48 something the old Mustang was a bit delayed on

13:50 was getting good infotainment.

13:52 Now this has gone to a full digital dash

13:54 and instrument cluster, hasn't it?

13:56 - Yeah.

13:56 So that was one of my big worries, actually.

13:58 One of the cool things about the Mustang

13:59 is that it still feels like an old school muscle car.

14:02 And the last one had that classic three air vents

14:05 at the top of the center stack.

14:06 It had what looked like hooded dials

14:08 that weren't after the update.

14:10 The new one is very modern inside.

14:12 You get a wraparound display with fewer buttons.

14:14 I thought I was going to hate it,

14:16 but compared to the old car,

14:18 it feels a million years better.

14:20 And the tech inside this definitely walks the line

14:22 really nicely between helping people who are old school.

14:26 They're still big icons.

14:27 You can still have classic gauges,

14:29 but also offering enough for younger buyers

14:31 to feel like they're getting into something up to date.

14:33 So that was probably my biggest worry

14:35 about the car going in.

14:36 And I actually think Ford's done a really good job with it.

14:37 - So the Dark Horse is somewhat,

14:40 it's not a special edition for Australia,

14:42 but it's a bit of a unique addition to Australia.

14:44 Now it comes with track modes

14:46 and it comes with a whole bunch of exhaust modes,

14:48 which, you know,

14:49 you say what you're all about exhaust modes.

14:50 Does it still sound really good?

14:52 - It sounds incredible.

14:53 (car engine roaring)

14:59 - Good, 'cause that's important.

15:01 - It absolutely is.

15:02 And it's part of the point of this car, right?

15:04 Even if people aren't going to take it on track,

15:05 they want it to sound like a classic muscle car

15:07 and look like a classic muscle car.

15:09 Ford has given you a range of modes.

15:13 There's quiet mode.

15:14 It's not that quiet.

15:15 It still sounds like a V8.

15:17 And then all the way through normal, sport and track mode,

15:20 which apparently is for track use only.

15:22 - Yes, track only out of your neighborhood.

15:23 - Don't use that in South Australia.

15:24 (laughing)

15:25 - Yeah, get you in all sorts of trouble.

15:26 - Not allowed, yeah.

15:26 - Great in a tunnel though, right?

15:27 (laughing)

15:28 - It's track use only in the same way

15:30 that the lasagna I plan to eat for lunch

15:32 is for four people.

15:33 It's used whenever you want.

15:35 It sounds fantastic.

15:36 It's also got auto rev matching.

15:38 On the road, I--

15:39 - Dup, dup, get rid of it.

15:40 Just get rid of it.

15:41 - You say that.

15:42 On the road, I agree.

15:43 I turn it off in a manual car on the road

15:45 'cause I like doing it myself,

15:46 but braking on the banking, again,

15:48 wrong side of the car, going fast,

15:50 wall right there.

15:51 I was pretty grateful for the rev matching, actually,

15:53 'cause there was enough going on in my head.

15:55 So a car like the Mustang is meant to be approachable

15:58 and meant to get people sort of,

16:01 I suppose, feeling like heroes.

16:03 You know, it's the sort of car that the people who buy it

16:05 aren't hardcore track nuts,

16:06 but they might wanna do that stuff.

16:08 And I feel like Ford's done a really good job

16:10 with this car of making it enjoyable,

16:12 engaging on track,

16:13 but also making it challenging enough for people

16:15 who want to sort of grow with the car.

16:17 So the tech can all be turned off,

16:19 but trust me when I say,

16:20 when you are flat out on a track,

16:22 there's a lot of thinking going on,

16:24 it's a good place to start.

16:26 It lets you focus on the important things.

16:27 And from there, you can turn the tech off

16:29 and grow with the car.

16:30 - What about you, Jade?

16:31 Would you have a new Mustang?

16:32 - Yes, but automatic only.

16:34 - Jade, we get to teach Jade to drive a manual.

16:36 Maybe that's how we can get you into a manual car.

16:38 - Ford would love that.

16:39 - Yes. Oh, well.

16:40 - A new trend.

16:42 (laughing)

16:44 - Don't sue us.

16:44 (laughing)

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17:16 Now, moving on to our last segment,

17:18 we all went on a little outing last week

17:20 to Gran Turismo, the movie,

17:23 which is based on the PlayStation game,

17:25 massive game.

17:26 I'm a big fan.

17:27 Scott, you're a big fan.

17:28 Jade, I'm not sure how much experience

17:30 you have playing Gran Turismo,

17:31 but how was it for you walking in

17:33 into that movie premiere last week?

17:36 - Yeah, so a lot of people won't know this.

17:39 Growing up, I was the biggest tomboy.

17:40 Like I had a skateboard.

17:43 I didn't wear dresses.

17:44 I was like, my mom was convinced I was a boy.

17:47 Gran Turismo was like every day

17:51 when you get home from school,

17:52 chuck it on the PlayStation 2

17:54 and that's it.

17:54 Like you're sitting there for hours.

17:55 So I really had like this emotional connection

17:59 with Gran Turismo.

18:01 I never knew the story behind it

18:02 and I made sure that the boys didn't say anything

18:04 because I just wanted to go in

18:05 with such an open mind.

18:06 It was cool.

18:08 I think I had to take my marketing promotion hat off

18:13 and try and enjoy it for what it was

18:16 because there was a lot of product placement

18:18 and there was a lot of, I guess,

18:20 Nissen trying to make it about Nissen,

18:24 which wasn't bad.

18:25 It was just obviously seeing it

18:29 from where your everyday person would see it from.

18:32 I rate it.

18:33 I told my dad to go watch it.

18:34 He hasn't watched it yet,

18:36 but I'm very keen to hear what he has to say.

18:38 So if you haven't seen the film

18:39 or you don't know anything about it,

18:41 we'll play a clip here.

18:42 This is from the movie,

18:43 Thanks to Sony Pictures.

18:44 Hey everyone.

18:54 We are so excited to tell you about our movie,

18:56 Gran Turismo.

18:57 This movie is made for the cinema.

19:01 It's a Sony PlayStation partnership.

19:07 It doesn't get any better than this.

19:09 It's a movie based on a true life story.

19:14 With heart pounding action,

19:16 drama, it's a love story.

19:18 And it's badass race car action.

19:20 You're going to feel like you're in the middle of.

19:22 Body vibrating sound.

19:25 The audience is going to feel every jolt,

19:29 every thrill of this racing at 200 miles per hour.

19:32 We're excited to share Gran Turismo with you

19:35 exclusively in theaters.

19:37 (upbeat music)

19:43 The fun fact about the film is

19:46 Jan actually came and did all the stunt driving

19:49 for the movie.

19:50 - Yes, that was cool.

19:51 - Basically playing himself in the race car.

19:52 Cause obviously actors in race cars is not good.

19:55 One thing I loved about the film

19:56 from a filmmaking perspective was

19:58 they put real cameras on real cars

20:00 and drove them on real race tracks.

20:02 Technically it was a really, really beautiful film.

20:05 What did you guys think about,

20:06 like from that perspective?

20:07 - I thought it was beautifully shot.

20:09 One of the problems with these racing movies

20:11 is often that it feels really fake or forced.

20:15 And I think Rush was probably the movie that

20:17 took a big step forward and showed people

20:20 that with the right investment, it's possible.

20:21 It's an awesome movie about James Hunt and Nicky Lauda.

20:24 I did have some frustrations with it.

20:27 And this is as someone who plays Gran Turismo,

20:29 but also someone who just likes cars and driving fast.

20:32 For all of the beautiful shots and the detail

20:36 and some of the stuff about GT racing that was really real.

20:39 The number of times someone was going flat out

20:41 down a straight and then down shifted

20:43 and started going faster again,

20:44 really fast and furious style.

20:45 - It's a fast and furious effect, isn't it?

20:47 - I completely lost count.

20:48 And that drove me absolutely insane

20:50 because if you are going at flat chat

20:52 down the Mulsanne straight,

20:53 you can't just drop a gear and go faster.

20:55 That is not how that works.

20:56 I was also a little bit frustrated

20:59 with the lack of detail.

21:00 And that's cause we're car nerds and gaming nerds

21:02 when it comes to Gran Turismo.

21:04 But Jan went from one of the fastest drivers

21:07 in the Gran Turismo world

21:10 to one of the fastest drivers in the road world like that.

21:13 And then he went from GT to Le Mans.

21:15 I don't know about you guys,

21:16 but the jump happened really quickly for me.

21:18 - Yeah, it's a short movie.

21:20 It's not a mini series, I guess.

21:21 - I would have liked it to maybe be pushed out.

21:25 I think now that Fast and Furious is done,

21:27 what is going to fill that gap?

21:30 Because I think there's a lot of people

21:31 that are still in that.

21:33 And I think Fast and Furious

21:34 kind of built up an audience.

21:36 So I think if Gran Turismo could have made it

21:39 into a two or even three part movie,

21:42 it would have been really cool

21:44 to kind of play out exactly what happened

21:46 and not kind of skip a few very important steps

21:50 in his career, I guess.

21:52 - I think it came out at the right time.

21:54 I think if they tried to make this film 10 years ago,

21:56 it would have been terrible.

21:57 No one will have enjoyed it.

21:58 I think in a post drive to survive world,

22:01 it's actually, it fits in that gap really well.

22:04 And I think personally,

22:05 people that like drive to survive,

22:07 but maybe not full blown racing fans,

22:09 they're going to love the film.

22:10 It's really cool.

22:10 It's actually packed.

22:11 It feels fast.

22:12 It feels like you're on the track

22:13 with them a lot of the time.

22:15 There's an incident that happens in the film

22:16 where there's a crash at the Nürburgring Nordschleife.

22:19 I went and found the footage on the internet

22:22 and watching the footage on the internet

22:23 and watching the scene in the film,

22:25 like they nailed it.

22:26 It is exactly what happened.

22:27 And you watch the movie and you remember that scene.

22:30 You sort of go, "Whoa, that's a bit crazy."

22:31 I think I started crying.

22:32 I turned to Jack and Jack was normal.

22:34 And I was like, "Am I the only one that is?"

22:37 This is so sad.

22:38 It was brutal.

22:39 It's a brutal scene and they do it.

22:41 They did some things really, really well.

22:43 I feel like some of the things that were a bit of a letdown,

22:46 like the bad guy felt a little bit,

22:47 60s James Bond villainy.

22:49 Yeah, the gold plated rich car, basically.

22:52 I get what they're going for.

22:54 It's a bit of a stereotype,

22:55 but it's also as a racing fan.

22:57 I feel like it's old news.

22:59 Yeah, it doesn't feel quite real.

23:00 You're a re-inventor.

23:01 You've got an opportunity here to create a character

23:03 that is going to be memorable for the movie.

23:06 And I feel like he was, but it was a bit meh.

23:09 Like, yeah, I expected him to be like the way he was.

23:13 Look, as car movies and video game movies go,

23:16 it was a pretty good one

23:17 because Sony's previous attempt at a video game movie

23:20 was Uncharted.

23:21 And having played all those games,

23:22 I can tell you Gran Turismo was a much, much better take

23:25 on that formula.

23:25 Yes, I think that they were self-aware enough

23:28 for this movie that it was actually quite enjoyable.

23:30 So yeah, I think credit to Sony and PlayStation

23:32 for putting this one together.

23:33 Credit to Blomkamp.

23:34 It's amazingly shot.

23:36 It's a really beautiful film.

23:37 I think it's a great Sunday afternoon flick

23:39 if you're looking for something,

23:40 if Oppenheim is a bit too dark for you,

23:42 maybe go and check this one out.

23:45 But it does make me think a little bit,

23:46 what is your favourite car theme film?

23:49 Jade, I think you've got one picked out already.

23:52 Yeah, I want to see what Scott has first

23:55 and don't take mine.

23:57 I'm going to guess maybe Cars.

23:58 You know what, there's a story behind it

24:01 and it is not for the cameras or the audio,

24:03 so I'll tell you that later.

24:04 Okay, perfect.

24:05 That's for the Uncut later podcast.

24:07 Yes, very embarrassing.

24:09 If you're not first, you're last.

24:14 Probably Senna, which is more of a documentary, I realise.

24:18 It's kind of cheating.

24:20 It is cheating a little bit, I realise.

24:21 But it is just such a beautifully put together movie

24:24 about someone who is so significant to motor racing.

24:27 I also watched it with my girlfriend,

24:28 who is not a car person.

24:29 She really enjoyed it.

24:30 So yeah, as much as Too Fast, Too Furious

24:33 was like a foundational movie for me as a kid,

24:36 I think Senna is going to be the one that takes the cake.

24:38 Okay, so Jade, I think your pick was safe.

24:40 I'm safe.

24:40 I actually had to do my research.

24:43 I was saying to Sean earlier today

24:44 that there's been no memorable car movies,

24:48 in my opinion, that have come out

24:49 in the last two or three years.

24:50 So besides going back to my early childhood,

24:53 which I ironically did,

24:54 and I've chosen the Italian job.

24:56 Not only because of my last name,

24:58 but it was just, yeah, iconic.

25:01 You don't forget it.

25:02 Yeah.

25:02 And the original.

25:03 If anyone says Mini,

25:05 that is the first thing you think of, right?

25:06 Like it's, yeah, 100%, the bus scene,

25:09 everything about it's great.

25:10 Yeah, I'm not going to try and impersonate Michael Caine.

25:13 But yes, that is a really good pick.

25:15 What's yours?

25:16 I'm not going to say my favourite

25:19 because there's a whole bunch, but...

25:20 Just quickly, why ask the question?

25:22 Well, you know, I'm a movie nut.

25:24 I've seen every movie.

25:25 You guys, I thought it might be...

25:26 Let me throw it out to you.

25:27 You can't ask me.

25:27 I'm not interested.

25:28 Let me, I, I...

25:29 It's hard for me to go past Mad Max.

25:32 I love Mad Max.

25:33 Mad Max was a seminal film for me

25:34 in terms of filmmaking and cars.

25:36 But then Fury Road,

25:38 Mad Max Fury Road is equally as good

25:40 in terms of the car side of things, I think.

25:42 So yeah, it's a hard one.

25:44 Look, we'd love to know what your favourite car movie is.

25:47 So please leave us a comment

25:48 or send us an email, podcast@careexpert.com.au.

25:52 We want to know what you think of the show.

25:53 We want to know what your favourite car movie is.

25:55 We also want to know, would you buy a Mustang Dark Horse?

25:59 That's the question of the week.

26:01 Guys, is there anything else you want to leave us with

26:03 before we head off today?

26:04 I'm curious to know your thoughts

26:07 while we're talking NASCAR

26:08 about the one NASCAR race that people should watch.

26:10 If you want to get into the sport,

26:12 what's the one that's going to get you into it?

26:13 I was going to say Chicago Street Race,

26:15 but it's already been done.

26:16 I think if you're...

26:17 That's a really tough one.

26:19 Daytona 500 would be pretty epic.

26:21 One of the big oval races, not super speedway,

26:24 one of the big oval races I think is where you want to be.

26:26 Right, so Indy, Daytona, one of those ones.

26:29 Yeah, one of the big ones where they get some speed,

26:31 they're racing close together.

26:33 Rubbings Racing.

26:34 Yeah, that's what it's all about.

26:35 Should we ask you, Jade?

26:37 Do you?

26:37 No, I'm just thinking about all the homework I have after this.

26:40 I have to watch Uncharted, learn manual.

26:42 I have to now go and watch NASCAR.

26:45 So thank you, boys.

26:46 This has been a very insightful experience.

26:48 Yeah, I'll be smoothing my leave tomorrow, Scott.

26:51 Well, guys, thank you so much for joining me this week.

26:53 Next week, we're going to be talking about the end of the station wagon in Australia,

26:56 Audi's new hybrid SUV and the new Mazda CX-60.

27:01 But before we go, I just want to know,

27:03 what would you guys like to hear us talk about in the future?

27:05 Do you want more supercars?

27:06 Do you want more race cars?

27:07 Do you want more electric cars?

27:09 Probably not that one, but if that's what you want,

27:12 do let us know, write to us, podcast@careexpert.com.au

27:15 or leave us a comment on YouTube.

27:16 We'd love to know your thoughts.

27:17 Any feedback you have would be much appreciated.

27:20 But until next time, see you later.

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