Collapsing carparks, cheap EVs and BMW's new M3 Touring!

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00:00 G'day and welcome to the facelifted car expert podcast. I am your host Sean Lander and if you haven't met me before you've probably heard

00:06 Me counting down from three on the drag race videos on YouTube

00:09 I'm one half of the video production team that makes out all of our YouTube content

00:16 And I'd like to invite you and along with my helper here or the head of video production

00:21 I should say EGLE to the car expert podcast and today joining me to talk about everything from cheap cars bad parking and

00:29 brand-new

00:31 super duper

00:32 Station wagon out of Germany is Scott Colley and William stop Ford boys. How you doing?

00:36 I'm really good, and I'm very proud of you for having a crack at your boss in the second episode of the new podcast

00:42 That's a really bold opening. I like it. It's what we're here for we have a crack

00:45 Well, how you doing right you're normally in Brisbane, but you actually here live in 4k in Melbourne with us tonight

00:54 Yes, I actually decided instead of flying down that I would drive down for a change

00:59 So I just got into the office a day or so ago after four days on the road first time doing the whole

01:05 Brisbane to Melbourne Drive won't be the last time because I'm doing it again at the end of the month

01:09 So yes, that was a fun drive where did you park your car when you got here?

01:18 Well, did you have to find a car park in the city?

01:20 I know no, so I parked it, you know where I'm staying because I was told that I could not

01:26 Absolutely, maybe a finite number of parking passes here and I could not leave my vehicle here. It's like you're ramping up to something

01:33 Straight into our first topic today. So

01:36 You may have parked before in secure parking which is a company in Australia

01:41 They have parking garages in most capital cities and a few other places and essentially it's you know

01:47 Pay to park in the CBD you they did offer a service where you could

01:52 Pre-book your parking spot and guarantee a parking spot. But when you got there

01:56 Scott I think that you didn't always have a parking spot. Is that the case? That's the case

02:01 Yeah, so just to cover off all our legal bases allegedly allegedly at the moment allegedly you didn't have a parking space

02:07 but yeah secure parking is being taken to the federal court by the a triple C which sort of looks after

02:11 Consumers and calls that businesses doing the wrong thing in Australia

02:15 because people would book these guaranteed parking spots online and they rock up with five minutes until their job interview or birthday party or

02:23 Kids piano recital or whatever it was and get there and there would be no parking

02:27 And apparently over the five years secure got lots of complaints from these customers and didn't really do anything about it. So

02:33 Obviously if that is true very frustrating

02:37 But it kind of got me thinking about why parking just sucks in general at every single multi-story car park in the world

02:43 I know I've had it go into the airport before I've pre-booked

02:46 You know because basically the only way to get it in you there and so 45 minutes looking

02:50 For the car park that you can never find so and he's a report car park was booked out last week

02:55 Oh, so trying to book the day before I clicked on the cheapest option, which is 12 bucks a day

02:59 If you can get it, it's very cheap. But yeah, they said no parking available

03:03 You have to pay a hundred a day instead at the really fancy car park

03:05 All right

03:06 And this is a problem because I mean we see it we we have a multi-story car park

03:11 We park in here at the office and we find almost without fail every day

03:15 The boom gates are the broken going in or going out

03:18 Yeah, this is a this is a constant problem and we're very lucky that there's multiple entrances and exits that we can get out of

03:24 But it's not always the case

03:25 I will

03:26 Maybe you can enlighten us a little bit on whether it's a similar situation in Brisbane to Melbourne

03:30 Oh, we've had issues with parking there as well. But look I'm a

03:33 cheapskate

03:35 For it paying for parking where possible and I try to make it a point to never pay for street parking because why the hell should

03:40 You have to pay for street parking? Yeah parking on the street. Yeah

03:43 It's a bit of a fickle one. Maybe we won't go too deep into that one today

03:48 But you know, I understand that the multi-story car park operators. They're generally a privately run operation. They have to make some money

03:55 But here's what what about you go to a Westfield right and you go already. I hate it. Yes

03:59 You know, we're so generally you get three hours of free parking you go watch a movie

04:03 And you might go do bullies or you might go to Big W and you do a quick shop

04:08 But that's time then you're up for nine ten twenty bucks in parking. Like do you think there should be?

04:14 Do you think they should be providing a better service considering what they're charging for it?

04:19 Or is it it's too far gone and there's no fixing it

04:22 I think it definitely should be a better service and if you think of the number of car parks you go to that you pay

04:27 Through the nose for especially in CBD and then the parking spots are designed for a smart car

04:32 Everything is filthy. There's people queuing up out the door because the gates don't work

04:36 I would say it's not good enough, but obviously it is because people keep paying but yeah

04:41 Definitely the expectation is when you're paying for a service you get the service that you're paying for and that I think is

04:46 Almost never the case in Australia at least of course, they're gonna keep panks got what if what are they gonna do take public?

04:52 Exactly a walk this well, welcome to the car so it train podcast

05:06 Like a Chinese car brand is sub brands on some brands on sub brands here

05:09 So that is you just raised another really interesting point there Scott about the the spaces within a parking spot now

05:15 I drive an old Falcon. I think you have a Pajero. I do. Yeah wagon. Will you drive a Genesis?

05:21 Which is just a sort of a regular size sedan. It's not too crazy

05:24 home brand

05:27 So many car parks and like big like Westfields Woolworths and I struggle to fit my my Falcon in there that's like

05:34 When did our parks shrink or did cars get bigger or cars are getting bigger across the board?

05:39 I mean you look at the new Hyundai Kona for example, and it's a fresh example in my mind

05:44 So we've been driving it this week

05:45 It is significantly wider and longer than the car it replaces and that means that the car above it gets bigger and the one above

05:51 That gets bigger

05:52 So cars are getting bigger and even if yours isn't bigger because I know the Falcon hasn't grown over the last few years

05:57 Not lately. No, but the ones on either side of you where once upon a time

06:01 Maybe they were an old Commodore that was quite narrow

06:03 They might now be a Palisade or a Ram 1500 or a Ford Ranger or something like that that eats more into your space

06:09 So if everything grows incrementally it makes the people staying the same size in their Falcons, for example, feel a little bit smaller

06:16 I think there's definitely argument that the spaces are getting smaller

06:20 So we saw in New York recently a car park collapsed and my understanding is prior to that

06:25 They had actually found more space for cars and the only way they could possibly have done that was to make the spaces smaller

06:32 Or under the seat cushions. Yeah

06:34 I'm not a mathematician

06:35 But like car parks don't tend to grow car spaces tend to get smaller and then they fit when I get they've got to get

06:41 A dollar per square meter thing out of it

06:42 So do you think with the advent of electric cars cars are getting much heavier?

06:45 You know the new Ranger weighs well over two ton most TVs weigh well over two ton

06:51 Do you think there is a safety element that we have to start considering with multi-story car parks?

06:54 Yeah, I mean I would hope that structures are being built to the appropriate building codes

06:58 But do those building codes take into account the increasing weight of vehicles?

07:02 That's that's a really good question building expert is our follow-up train expert just to be clear

07:07 But it is a really interesting one because you look at the Kia ev9

07:10 It weighs 2.7 tons and it is roughly the same size as a Palisade or something like that

07:17 Which might weigh 2.1 or 2.2 tons, but 500 kilos is nothing to be sneezed at on the scale of an 8-story car park

07:23 So we actually wrote a story about this not all that long ago and a whole lot of people jumped in the comments and said

07:28 It was scaremongering

07:29 but I

07:30 Do think that we are gonna have to consider this going forward because if everything from the very smallest hatches

07:36 All the way up to the very biggest cars of five six seven hundred kilos heavier than before that is gonna cause problems

07:42 It is but it's something that's

07:45 Also to consider causing problems with the weight is Australia's roads and I know will you just did a drive from Brisbane to Melbourne?

07:51 So tell us a little bit about this. This is your first time doing a long Australian Drive. Yeah, I understand

07:57 So so how did you find that? I know it's mostly highway, but how did you find that drive?

08:01 I actually texted Scott right after I crossed the border into Victoria because as soon as I crossed the border the roads just got

08:09 noticeably

08:11 noticeably worse to the point where I'm like dodging big potholes and it was just

08:16 Horrid whereas New South Wales at least the roads I was on and the ACT really quite well surfaced roads

08:23 Maybe even better than Queensland

08:25 I'm curious was the other thing you noticed when you crossed into Victoria all of a sudden everyone went from looking at the road to

08:36 Looking at their speedo because there's like a noticeable change as you cross the border

08:39 Everyone ups the speed by 10 kilometers an hour in New South Wales

08:42 They know they're not going to get pinged for being just over and then you hit Victoria and everyone tightens the belt a little bit

08:47 I didn't notice that but I didn't notice the weather instantly get worse

08:50 Victoria this is we've had our three sunny days of the year

08:57 We're back to cloud three if you're in Australia right now

09:02 This is most of what we do is just complain about other states basically. So well, how did you so?

09:07 Yeah, this is your first big Australian Drive. How did you find the experience? You know, I know that you stopped

09:12 At Coffs Harbour at the Big Banana. I believe you stopped at Parliament House

09:17 You made some really like some a bit of an adventure out of it, didn't you?

09:20 Yeah

09:21 I suppose I went to those things that

09:23 Kids usually go places that kids usually go to on field trips that for some reason I never did

09:28 Because I've never I've never been to Coffs Harbour before so I've never been to the Big Banana

09:32 I had I've been to Canberra for a bunch of vehicle launches because car companies love to do launches out of Canberra

09:38 Which I guess makes sense because it's centrally located

09:40 But I'd never been to Parliament House

09:42 So I've just figured may as well make a little bit of a trip out of it and I'd done big American road trips before

09:47 But I've never actually done, you know, and I'm obviously from here. I've spent most of my life here. So

09:51 It was nice to actually get out and see more of Australia

09:55 I mean a lot of Australia's highways mind you but um

09:57 Did you have any politicians try to get in the back of your Genesis?

10:00 Because it is the perfect I did take a photo right in front of Parliament House

10:05 This just looks like an official car

10:08 So you drove down the coast road when you head back here gonna go inland this time do it a bit differently

10:13 Whatever the quickest way, okay, so basically so to tell them are in on a plane

10:17 My brother is moving back to Brisbane, so we are loading up the car with things

10:25 He doesn't trust the mover with and we're just going to try and do that trip as quickly as possible

10:30 Basically, so fair won't be as fun or as scenic

10:33 No, well think speak of things that are not as fun or as scenic cheap cars in Australia seem to be making a bit of

10:39 a comeback is a great

10:41 Really good. I don't sleep at night. I just go with segways

10:45 So

10:49 GWM have just released the aura which is a funny looking little hatchback

10:54 Guess it kind of looks like Hello Kitty's car. Oh, yes

10:57 It costs less than $40,000 and it's the cheapest TV in Australia

11:02 No, not quite. I'm gonna stop you there mg undercuts it by $1,000 and big YT undercuts it by

11:09 1100 Wow, okay, so it's one of the cheapest

11:12 But it isn't a micro car it is actually a fairly well-sized vehicle

11:18 The packaging is not great and I'm not just talking about the looks. There's not a lot of space in the boot

11:23 There's not a lot of rear leg room

11:25 So there are quite a lot of compromises and I think that's the thing that we've got to consider, you know

11:29 Mahindra have got the XUV 700. It's under 40 grand, but it's a seven seat again

11:35 Just full of compromises and I think is that something guys that we're looking at now

11:39 We've got cheaper cars coming back to a degree cheaper cars, but they're heavily compromised. Is that it fair to say?

11:45 I think you're you're being very generous to call a $40,000 hatchback cheap

11:49 It definitely is cheaper than the electric cars on sale at the moment

11:53 But we're still a long way off from a cheap electric car in Australia when you consider that for a very long time

11:59 You could get a new car for 15 or 16 grand drive away

12:01 Mahindra and GWM and the Chinese brands we're talking about are the ones that are gonna do it though

12:07 given what we've seen from established car makers in Oz now everyone wants to move up market because

12:12 Building a new car is really hard all of a sudden. There's really strict emission standards globally

12:17 There's safety standards and we're really demanding. We want more in our cars as well and that makes them expensive

12:22 so as those brands have moved up market the Chinese and the Korean and the

12:27 Indian brands have sort of started in underneath and I think that trend is definitely going to continue

12:32 So talking about a car that used to be 15 off thousand dollars the Mazda 2

12:36 It kind of does the opposite of become a cheap car

12:40 It's still relatively cheap compared to the $40,000 SUV

12:42 but the new Mazda 2 was just announced with a price of $22,000 and if you look at

12:47 2013 Mazda 2 it was about $16,000. So that's a fairly big jump up in time

12:53 I will defend Mazda in that instance there because if you look between that year that you mentioned 2013 and now

13:00 So obviously we've gone into a new generation

13:02 So you expect prices to go up a little bit there fair enough

13:03 but a few years ago Mazda added a bunch of standard safety equipment to the Mazda 2 and

13:08 Increased the pricing so if you're comparing a current Mazda 2 to a Mazda 2 from 10 years ago

13:14 Even setting aside the whole inflation issue

13:17 You're still looking at a car that's comprehensively

13:20 Much more equipped much better equipped I should say than a car 10 years ago

13:24 But my question on that is because we hear this from car makers all the time again Hyundai with the new Kona

13:29 It's more expensive, but it's bigger. It's got more equipment. It's more efficient

13:32 That's awesome

13:34 But it doesn't put four thousand extra dollars in the person's pocket to actually be able to afford to buy it

13:38 So I get what you're saying that cars are safer smarter more efficient now than they used to be

13:44 But that doesn't change the fact that if you could afford a car five years ago

13:48 Maybe you can't now because they are more expensive and instead people are looking to the used car market

13:53 Which is also really heavily inflated. I mean the cheapest cars in Australia now are Kia Picanto and the MG3

13:59 And it barely scrapes in under twenty thousand dollars drive away whereas back in the day you could get a Hyundai for

14:06 $9,990 drive away, so I know inflation kind of negates some of that but

14:10 Regards of what more is in cars

14:13 It's getting harder and harder for people to access a an affordable safe new car, and I don't think that's a good thing

14:18 I have to get past that mental block because whenever I see like an MG3 priced around

14:22 $19,990 I feel like this is this old man energy wash over me

14:27 I remember when you used to get a Nissan Pulsar plush for $19,990 drive, but it's true

14:32 I mean that used to be a small car was around

14:34 $19,990 drive away and now you you're lucky to get an MG3 the Toyota Yaris jumped up in price again

14:40 it got a lot more safety equipment as well, but

14:42 You're you're absolutely right Scott because the people that want an affordable car that are not really demanding about what it has

14:48 They're still there

14:50 MG is serving them with a car that is over a decade old and doesn't have much in the way of safety equipment

14:55 But fundamentally that's that's all the people that would have bought a Hyundai gets that type of buyer should say maybe not the exact same

15:02 People but that type of buyer

15:04 They're now looking at an MG because what else is there an MG talking about the MG3 a few years ago when?

15:10 They're obviously ramped up and well and truly in the top ten now

15:13 But a few years ago as they were growing we actually interviewed their marketing boss and he said look with COVID going around with people

15:19 You know battling the cost of living etc

15:21 Some of them see the MG3 is a really good alternative to public transport and that's a paraphrase not a direct quote

15:27 But it kind of sums up what a lot of people want from a car

15:30 They want to get somewhere and do it themselves not do it on a train

15:33 It was he selling the MG3 by saying well it beats the bus

15:35 He absolutely was not and if you're listening, that is not what I was saying

15:40 So it seems though that Aussies don't really

15:43 So the majority of buyers don't seem to mind

15:46 They're not looking at a fifteen twenty thousand dollar car because if you look at RAM for instance

15:50 They sell nearly a thousand RAM fifteen hundreds a month and they start at a hundred thousand dollars

15:54 Rangers, I mean your average Ranger now starts at well over fifty grand

15:59 So it seems that there's whilst there's not as many cheap cars around as you don't seem as concerned

16:05 Is that is that fair to say the way we buy cars has changed?

16:08 I mean back in the day

16:10 People would pay a chunk of cash for a car and then maybe finance some of it now and I don't know about right now

16:15 Because interest rates are rising but for a long time leasing was really cheap and that opens the door for a whole lot of other

16:20 things I mean you can pay a lot more for a car because

16:22 The amount of cash in your pocket doesn't matter as much as long as you can make the monthly payment

16:26 So those factors have helped drive up the average price

16:29 But also with the Ranger and cars like the Hilux and even the RAM

16:33 There's been lots of programs from the government that make them really attractive

16:36 The instant asset write-off which was ramped up again during Kovatan has just been cut back

16:41 Meant that if you are a sole trader or a tradie and you use your car for work

16:45 It's an incredible financial benefit to spend however much on a you because all of a sudden it becomes a write-off at tax time

16:52 So there are other factors at play

16:54 It's not just people have more money to spend or want to spend more money

16:57 But more there's ways they can make their money work for them buying more expensive cars. I need this RAM 1500 TRX for work

17:04 Okay, yeah, you strike me as a RAM 1500 TRX sort of driver. Trade the Genesis for it

17:08 Where would I park it?

17:12 On the street. They won't be able to reach the window to put a ticket on it

17:15 But if you want something fast that's not quite as tall as a RAM TRX

17:21 The M3 Touring from BMW might be the car for you. Another flawless segway

17:25 It actually costs about half the price of a RAM TRX

17:30 Coming in at around a hundred eighty thousand dollars for the base model

17:33 It only comes in one trim the competition guys

17:35 But really why would you want anything else?

17:37 and if you're not sure what a touring is if you listen to this podcast rather than watching the touring is basically the station wagon version of

17:43 The m3 which is BMW's fire-breathing

17:47 super saloon more or less

17:49 So Scott, I believe you had a drive of the m3

17:53 I spent a lot of time in the m3 touring and I just I fell in love you're still smiling from it

17:57 Well, yeah, it's funny how that happens. Yeah, it's um

18:00 It's one of those cars that the car world has wanted for a really long time

18:02 And I know we're here talking about $20,000 mg3 and that means a lot to a lot of people but motoring enthusiasts are a weird

18:09 bunch, so

18:10 They for a long time have been saying to BMW will build a rival to the Audi RS4 because it's kind of the cool

18:15 Sort of staple wagon BMW's finally done it and it's the most practical

18:21 Sort of super sports car I've driven. It's also one of the fastest

18:25 It just ticks so many boxes and it looks really cool to boot. I oh, yeah, I just felt deeply in love straight away

18:30 It's such an enthusiast thing. Isn't it a high-performance wagon? I mean, I'm just so glad that BMW has built it. I'm so glad

18:39 Because Audi and Mercedes have had this market to themselves for so long

18:43 But it is there's no getting around the fact that an x3 M is going to outsell this considerably an x4 M is probably gonna outsell

18:50 This considerably so it's catering to her

18:52 It's a subset of a subset of enthusiasts, but oh, I'm just glad it exists and I mean you look at the numbers

18:58 I know you've Sean has very helpfully prepared us a cheat sheet here, but three liter straight six

19:02 375 kilowatts 650 Newton meters. I love the number tons of boot space

19:08 Find a figure there could you?

19:11 Know I look it is it is a huge amount of boot space. It's not as much as a an x3 sure, but I mean

19:20 Compared to the sedan version for instance

19:22 There's a huge amount and I know that

19:24 One of the features that I used to love on a hundred series Land Cruiser or an old Range Rover

19:28 Was that the rear glass lifted up and from a from a filming perspective?

19:31 That was really good because you can hang out the back and shoot

19:34 Tracking a car out the back without really endangering your life

19:38 The entry touring is the new cameraman's car because it has the same

19:42 Feature the rear glass opens up on the boot and you can just hang a camera on the back listening car expert finance team

19:49 Sean desperately needs a two hundred thousand dollar m3 touring as his next camera

19:53 Eagle would also like one in blue place

19:55 It's also gonna be able to do things that very few camera cars can do

19:59 I mean

19:59 people got a little bit upset when BMW went from rear-wheel drive to all-wheel drive on the m3 because traditionally it was a sort of

20:05 Larry rear-drive car, but the four-wheel drive system on this thing is so incredibly capable. I drove it down the Great Ocean Road

20:12 Chucking down with rain. It was dark. It was cold

20:16 It was all sorts of things that should make an m3 really slow

20:19 but it just demolished the conditions because it's got so much traction and

20:24 Usually that means it feels a little bit dead

20:26 That's always been the criticism of Audi RS cars

20:29 But the m3 system you can chuck it in two-wheel drive if you want, but I wouldn't recommend it on the public road

20:34 But even in its safest most boring setup you put your foot down and it feels a little bit rear-wheel drive

20:39 It gives you a little bit of movement without trying to spit you sideways off the road

20:43 It almost feels and this is stolen from someone else like a sort of Nissan GTR wagon the way that it just absolutely eats up all

20:51 conditions

20:52 So instead of being the last car you buy it might actually be the greatest car. It's the only car you buy

20:56 They're the only car you buy so I'm curious if you're watching this on YouTube

21:01 I will bring the images up on the screen now if you're not we're gonna stick the links down in the description of the podcast

21:07 So do check it out. I've asked both

21:09 Scott and will to spec their m3 Touring's how they would have them spec so you can check those out

21:14 I went for a very expensive blue option

21:18 The paint colors on this car some of them are free and there are it's incredibly generous

21:24 There are 14 standard colors

21:28 Some of them cost up to $5,000 and then if you want to go and make your own individual color

21:34 Do you know the price tag on some of those? Oh?

21:36 Oh, I don't

21:38 Was very concerned because it didn't just show it straight away if you have to ask Sean

21:45 You can't afford yeah, and look the one that we had actually was I don't know if it was Daytona or Thunder Knight metallic purple

21:52 I'm not quite sure which one it was but it was metallic purple

21:55 It's an individual color over a white interior, and it was just stunning when I went to do this spec challenge

22:00 I went to spec it exactly like how that press car was back then for some reason doesn't show up

22:04 So I guess it is a it must be a special order color. We've taken you off track. Sorry. That's alright

22:08 If you give BMW a call they might do a really good ex-demo deal on that car. I

22:12 Wouldn't say gently driven

22:15 No, and if you if you are on YouTube to hit the link in the description to see exactly how not gently driven that car

22:23 Was we had a great time filming that down at our proving ground

22:26 It does have a really trick feature in it where you you don't just turn off the traction control in an M car

22:32 You have different modes of traction and there's one called a drift analyzer now will I know you're a drifting enthusiast

22:39 More and more modern cars are putting in these sort of features

22:52 You know you're seeing a lot of AMG vehicles as well as these M cars

22:55 Do you think this sort of stuff's actually necessary? Do you think it's just cool to have it's just cool to have

23:00 Fundamentally, I don't think anybody's really gonna be using features like this on a on a professional level

23:05 but if your

23:08 High-performance, you know super wagon has got launch control and drift analyzer and all this and the one from the other brand doesn't well

23:15 Then you might be more tempted to go and get the BMW because it's got those cool features. It's just a way of standing out

23:20 I'm sure it's a lot of fun

23:22 I'm sure most owners will probably use it maybe once or twice and never again, but I'll be glad it was there

23:27 I'd love to see the correlation between BMW m3 touring owners putting their car in rear-wheel drive traction off and then

23:33 Crashing it like a relationship between the two

23:36 But it is something really cool that I suppose it shows that these car brands care and one of the things that a

23:43 Lot of car enthusiasts sort of complain about is cars are getting heavier. They have to be all-wheel drive

23:48 They have to have all sorts of features

23:50 They didn't previously

23:51 But car brands are getting very good at finding ways to offer a version of what we enjoyed before

23:56 That still kind of makes enthusiasts happy while also making it safer and smarter and more efficient and all that sort of thing

24:02 I

24:03 Realize that also is key for them because they want to sell these cars and they have to make these enthusiasts happy in the case

24:08 of the m3

24:08 but I think a shout out to the the engineers who are actually going to the effort of

24:13 Building a what a massive family wagon that can be turned into a rear-wheel drive drift car

24:19 Just in case someone does want to do it and that's pretty cool

24:22 And it does show that yeah someone at BMW M still cares

24:25 It kind of makes me think what what companies are doing in the electric vehicle space as well because you know people complain that electric vehicles

24:31 Are so homogenous, but you're seeing people companies wanting to introduce features like simulated manual gear shifts and fake noises and things like that

24:39 So it makes me think it makes me wonder what BMW M is going to do with its electric cars when they eventually come out

24:44 How they're gonna make them stand out from the competition now before we move on from the m3 touring

24:49 Can I just give one word of warning, please?

24:50 I've seen how you've spec'd your car and you've made a mistake. Which one do you think it is?

24:53 The wheels no, not the wheels. No seats. Oh, see I like the car

24:58 The ones with that thing. Oh, no, so the little guy I fit in them quite easily Scott doesn't fit in

25:04 That's true. You know, that's his problem. So BMW will charge you an obscene amount

25:09 I think it's about

25:10 $10,000 for a package that includes some carbon fiber bucket seats and they look incredible on the outside - great. That's carbon roof

25:17 That's awesome

25:18 But they just they're too tight for one if you are broad-shouldered

25:21 They sort of hold you in very tightly

25:23 but to get into them you've got to climb over the bolsters and once you're in you sit with this carbon sort of

25:28 Appendage between your legs for want of a better word. Yes, put it this way if you are a man

25:35 You want to hope the seatbelt works really?

25:38 Absolutely

25:40 Experience them in a manual M2 and in that car

25:42 It's even worse because you've got to go over the top of the middle of them to get to the clutch because the pedals

25:46 Aren't aligned steer clear be more comfortable spend the $16,000 on a nice holiday

25:51 But all the fuel for the car or tires, which you're probably gonna need pretty quickly. This is sensible consumer advice

25:56 So if you haven't seen the video, it's it's out now on our YouTube channel

26:00 Do head over to car expert on YouTube and check it out. Paul does a really in-depth review. I filmed it

26:07 So it's fantastic. No

26:09 So I'd like to thank you guys Scott will thank you for coming in and joining us

26:13 Well, you're gonna be heading back to Brisbane very shortly

26:16 So next time we see you might be in a digital form might be in person

26:20 We'll see but I want to say thank you guys for coming

26:22 Now if you haven't already subscribe to us on YouTube or on whatever podcast stream you're listening to us

26:28 Give us a like leave us a comment. We'd love to know what you think. We'd love to know any feedback you have and

26:33 guys

26:35 I'll see you next time.

26:36 Looking forward to it.

26:37 Thanks, Sean.

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