Sister Wives' Christine and Janelle Brown Address Kody Brown's Trash Talking Cla
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00:00 He seems to think that you guys are, you know, trash talking him.
00:02 Do you think that that's a fair assessment?
00:04 I kept, no, you make this excuse forever, but I've shut your mouth
00:09 and let me talk to you for a minute.
00:10 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:11 I think he's trying to find fault because he's not liking
00:14 things that are happening in his life.
00:15 So I think he's trying to find fault with other people.
00:18 First and foremost, thank you so much for joining me.
00:20 Sister Wiles, very own Christine Brown and Janelle Brown in the building.
00:23 How are you?
00:24 So good.
00:25 Thank you so much for having us doing so great.
00:28 Loving it.
00:29 We just appreciate you all being so open and you've really been more open this
00:33 season about the relationships between the five of you, I know you guys have
00:36 talked about really getting along with Mary and how Robin changed the dynamic as well.
00:41 So why be open about all of that now?
00:44 I feel like everything's in progression, right?
00:47 Everything is, um, everything changes.
00:50 I feel like we were open with everything, but when I had a mental thing click
00:55 where I realized, you know, I actually don't feel like everything is okay.
00:58 Right now, how it is right now.
01:00 And then it changed.
01:00 I wouldn't say I wasn't open before I'd say open, but more it's like,
01:05 everything's just changed so much that, and then almost since I've left too,
01:11 I'm stepping away from it and that's created a different paradigm.
01:15 So I think that's changed too.
01:18 And so it's just been a, just a different perspective kind of a thing.
01:21 You mentioned this change.
01:23 I love that you said that because that leads me to my next
01:25 question about these fan theories.
01:27 There are so many theories that fans have.
01:29 They're like, okay, I think kind of what, what the change was in these relationships.
01:33 What would you want them to know about this change?
01:36 I didn't realize anything was wrong until I knew something was wrong.
01:40 And then I was like, oh, well then I'm going to do something different now.
01:45 So it's like, I thought that we were okay.
01:49 I thought our family was okay.
01:50 I thought things were okay.
01:50 When, until I realized that like, it just wasn't the relationship that I was
01:55 looking for for my kids and it wasn't a relationship I was looking for myself.
01:58 And then I was like, okay, well, now that I found that I'm going to move on and
02:02 I'm going to go and I'm not going to say anymore.
02:05 So for me, it was like, it was an instantaneous and I, but I didn't know
02:09 anything and I thought I was going to stay and stay and stay and stay until
02:13 like Isabel surgery was like done.
02:16 And then, um, that really was, and then we have like big,
02:19 huge conversation and just done.
02:21 Yeah.
02:21 You know, I think for me, it was really just that Cody and I really had been
02:24 going apart for a lot of years.
02:26 Um, Yeah, I mean, like we had a, I feel like we had a really great run.
02:30 I feel like the family, I mean, it was, but we just had kind of started to grow
02:33 apart and when he became estranged from my children, it was kind of like, I I'm
02:37 like, yeah, I'm like, oh, okay.
02:38 I think maybe I could actually do something different here because like I
02:42 would have stayed and stayed and stayed.
02:43 Right.
02:44 If the kids were okay, we've said that if the kids had been okay, I would have
02:47 stayed and stayed and stayed.
02:49 Yeah.
02:49 And I mean, I'm glad that I'm in the place I am now, but I think for us, for
02:53 me more, it was more just a progression of a relationship, which I never
02:57 imagined what happened for me.
02:58 I thought we would be married forever, but I know.
03:00 When you know, it's not working anymore, then you need to change it because
03:05 your life is your life and you are the one who dictates what you do.
03:09 If it doesn't work, then change it.
03:12 But I also am an advocate for sticking around and trying to make
03:16 a relationship work, right?
03:17 I feel like.
03:18 We, you, every relationship ebbs and flows.
03:20 And I think we really had just hit a point where it wasn't coming back.
03:23 Like we had, we've had several times in our marriage that we would, it would
03:26 leave and come back and leave and come back.
03:28 And I think that's a normal relationship, but we really had hit a very different
03:31 point now where we were just so very opposite different.
03:35 What's your response to Cody's claim that your relationship
03:37 was previously antagonistic.
03:40 And do you think that he tried to pitch you guys against each other?
03:42 Yeah, she and I, oh yeah.
03:44 There were times we didn't get along.
03:45 Oh yeah.
03:45 Yeah.
03:46 No, no, no.
03:46 We're just like sisters.
03:47 Yeah.
03:47 How you have your sisters.
03:49 So you don't get along with sometimes I don't like, you know, you break
03:52 their stuff and things like that.
03:53 I never broke.
03:53 Well, I did on accident.
03:54 I'm sorry.
03:55 I was very, I would say we went through times where we didn't get along very well.
03:59 And there were times that we did, and now we get a lot better than ever.
04:04 Well, you've removed some of the biggest friction points, right?
04:06 Like we dropped.
04:08 Yeah.
04:08 Amazing.
04:09 Amazing.
04:10 We're just going to keep being sister wise and we're going to raise kids together.
04:14 There's so much of my life that like 30 years, right.
04:17 That Christine's been privy to that.
04:18 We've shared these experiences.
04:20 Like no, it's had some of the experiences with me that I've had with Christine.
04:24 We could list up 25 things right now, but like good and bad that we've done together.
04:29 So it's like, it's like, it's like my sister.
04:32 I'm, you know, I've had as much history with her as I've had with my own sister.
04:35 She knows I'm allergic to a lot of mascara and she really helped.
04:38 Really.
04:38 She's like, Ooh, I don't think that's a good idea.
04:40 Are you sure you want to do that?
04:41 He seems to think that you guys are, you know, trash talking him.
04:45 Do you think that that's a fair assessment?
04:46 Oh, what is your relationship with him now?
04:48 Like, what do you think?
04:49 No, I think he's trying to find fault because he's not liking
04:53 things that are happening in his life.
04:55 So we think he's trying to find fault with other people.
04:57 His relationship with his kids is his responsibility.
05:00 I do.
05:00 I feel like that's the case.
05:01 Yeah.
05:04 I can observe that Cody seems to have trouble relating to his older children.
05:08 And now because they questioned it a little bit, I think it might be harder
05:12 for Cody to feel like he's respected.
05:14 Since I last talked to dad.
05:17 I bought a house.
05:18 I got into school and I got the car that I wanted that he told me I should never get.
05:24 And he doesn't know anything?
05:26 No.
05:27 He doesn't care to.
05:28 I've reached out to Garrison and Gabriel.
05:32 I reached out to them just before Christmas and I reached out to them after.
05:37 No, they're blocking me.
05:39 I feel bad that he feels like that, but it does feel like he's trying to find a
05:43 reason, you know, trying to find a reason.
05:45 And I tell you, it's just not true.
05:48 I actually, we actually would love Cody to have a great relationship with all of
05:53 his children and I do whatever I can to facilitate that when I find out that
05:57 he's coming into town three hours before he gets there, I cancel all the plans
06:02 and I make sure truly can spend time with her dad.
06:03 Wow.
06:04 So the relationship looking forward, it's a progressive one.
06:08 It's positive.
06:09 You just want to make sure there's a good aesthetic relationship
06:11 with him and his children.
06:11 I hope so.
06:13 Like I do hope that eventually time heals, right.
06:15 Time heals.
06:16 So I'm hoping that over time he can find a relationship with the children
06:19 that he's estranged from now.
06:21 And I just hope that there is a peace.
06:23 There's a place that we get where we're all peaceful.
06:25 Look, I am, I'm good.
06:27 We, we, we still have things that we have to do when we're all family and we
06:30 have to get together for the sake of the kids and we're all friendly.
06:32 It's not like, no, we're going to be fine in the same space.
06:35 I really hope for peace for him though.
06:38 And certainly to have a great relationship with all his kids.
06:40 That'd be awesome.
06:40 Same thing goes for Robin and her kids.
06:43 Yeah, I really do.
06:44 I do miss having Robin's kids around and I do hope that that,
06:47 that resolves itself someday.
06:48 Yeah, for sure.
06:50 What's your response to Cody saying that he was willing to continue to
06:54 fake his relationship with Mary, even though he hated it?
06:58 I am willing to fake being in love with Mary, doing my duties as a husband,
07:03 sort of putting up with things that frustrate me so deeply that, uh, I,
07:08 I, I struggled to be around her.
07:10 Why is he saying that he's willing to keep acting when he clearly hasn't
07:14 been for eight or 10 years?
07:16 And also I wouldn't want him to do that.
07:19 I've wanted to heal our relationship and even create a new relationship,
07:25 but I've never insisted on it.
07:27 I, I just think that's a shame.
07:29 You know, I'm glad that at the end he did the honorable thing.
07:32 Cause that's unfair.
07:33 That's extremely unfair to anybody.
07:35 It was ridiculous.
07:36 To him, to Mary, to me, to you, anybody, you know?
07:39 I think the most important thing in a relationship is honesty.
07:42 And I think if you're not being honest,
07:43 you have no business being in a relationship with that person.
07:46 You got to be honest and please don't fake anything.
07:48 Don't fake anything.
07:49 I would rather have the truth.
07:52 Even though it's painful.
07:53 I think sometimes I think that's the best course of action just to be fair,
07:57 to be honest.
07:58 Yeah.
07:58 When finally he said like he wasn't attracted to me, it was over.
08:01 I'm like, yeah, that's good to know.
08:03 Perfect.
08:04 I want to ask you all about Robin coming into the family,
08:06 affecting your relationships.
08:07 And I want to know, did you all get along in the beginning or was it a
08:10 struggle from the start?
08:12 At the start?
08:12 It was awesome.
08:13 No, we really did have a good time.
08:16 And honestly, what you see in the very beginning of the,
08:18 of the show really was what was happening.
08:20 Yes.
08:21 We were having a good time.
08:22 We were,
08:22 there was a lot of bumps with trying to put the two families together,
08:25 but we really did work hard to,
08:28 to make the reality of what we were,
08:31 what we were,
08:32 what we were showing really was who we were.
08:34 Yeah, no, I think that's,
08:35 the beginning we had this big,
08:36 a huge awesome family and I was super excited to show it to Robin.
08:38 And this is what we have now.
08:39 And, and so I was so excited to let's have her see.
08:43 I thought that what we had was super, super cool.
08:45 And so excited.
08:46 And then, I mean, like with all relationships,
08:49 I just figured that that newly white face that Cody and Robin had would
08:53 fade and go away, but it never really did.
08:56 He just wanted to stay there, which I get it now.
08:59 You know, I think he just,
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