Big Cat's Shares Secrets of Sports Media - The Pro Football Football Show Week 12
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00:00 All right, we're back.
00:01 Another season, pro football, football show.
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00:09 - Yeah, Will, how are you feeling?
00:10 - Boys, girl, this season is going to be awesome.
00:15 But who is this jabroni?
00:17 That's the mystery guest.
00:19 Different host every single week.
00:21 I love that idea.
00:23 Let's go!
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00:45 week 12 of the NFL show.
00:47 We are joined again by Delaney Walker,
00:49 who in the Thanksgiving special,
00:51 I mean, I thought he was going to have your back
00:52 a little bit, but you know.
00:54 - Earlier.
00:55 - That's when I got cut.
00:56 - You ask if he got cut.
00:57 - Is asking questions a long time ago?
01:00 I was in your booth at that time,
01:01 you asking if I got cut.
01:02 - But the camaraderie on the Thanksgiving special,
01:04 it ended up, everybody was doing well.
01:06 So hopefully everybody who's watching
01:08 had a great Thanksgiving, a great Black Friday,
01:10 now is back to Sunday.
01:11 So the records that I'm about to say
01:14 are not a hundred percent because we don't know,
01:16 as we're shooting this on Monday,
01:17 we don't know what the Thursday games looked like.
01:20 However, Dan, you had a fantastic week last week.
01:22 - Whew, win three.
01:24 - There was no video that came out about that.
01:25 - That's interesting.
01:26 Lucas, did Lucas, he didn't bring his computer
01:29 to work or something?
01:30 He had no, he had no, oh, look at this,
01:32 all everything.
01:33 - I think they scrapped it.
01:34 - Huh, interesting.
01:35 - I didn't notice that.
01:36 - Nine and three, and I don't get,
01:38 last week I went five and six and they did a highlight cut
01:42 of all my bad picks.
01:43 - It was mean.
01:44 - Then you go nine and three.
01:46 - Was it five and six?
01:46 - Damn, that's a sick picture.
01:47 - I think it was three and nine.
01:48 - I didn't even see that.
01:49 That's a sick picture.
01:50 - I don't think it was five and six, was it?
01:52 - Last week?
01:53 - Yeah, before I thought it was,
01:54 'cause that was like separation week,
01:56 I went 10 and 10.
01:56 - I went five and six, I believe.
01:58 But they found all six.
02:00 (laughing)
02:01 - Yeah, yeah.
02:02 - They found all six.
02:03 - I thought it was much worse than that
02:03 if they did like a whole highlight video.
02:04 - No, it might have been five and seven,
02:05 it might have been five and eight, I don't know.
02:08 - Will asked me to clarify, I was like,
02:09 I don't know, I think it was worse,
02:11 but regardless, it doesn't matter.
02:13 - You had a great week, you had a great week.
02:14 - They didn't wanna celebrate your wins,
02:16 that's what my, I did notice that.
02:17 - They don't wanna give me my flowers
02:20 when I do something well,
02:21 they just wanna kick me when I'm down, that's fine.
02:24 - 80 and 75 on the season.
02:25 Pick every game, pick every game and see how it goes.
02:29 Look, see, they're even stealing a game from me right here.
02:32 79, 75.
02:33 I see 80 and 75.
02:35 - Yeah, I see 78 and 78.
02:37 - It could very well be 84 and 75.
02:39 - That's crazy.
02:40 - By the time this airs,
02:42 there are multiple games that have already happened.
02:43 - Yeah, I probably went 0 and 20.
02:44 - I think that's 78, 78.
02:46 - I always lose on Thanksgiving.
02:48 Thanksgiving, people have these wonderful memories
02:51 of the family all getting together,
02:52 it's just me remembering how bad I did betting
02:56 and just being like, "God damn it, I did it again."
02:59 - Well, and you also have college basketball.
03:00 - Yeah, no, I'm 0 and 40.
03:02 - College football. - College basketball.
03:03 - It's not good.
03:04 Okay, so we're gonna start with the storyline games
03:07 of the week.
03:07 We're gonna start with the Jags and the Texans.
03:09 Before the show, Delaney, you mentioned to me
03:11 what you wanna see happen in this game.
03:12 So the Jags are favored by minus one right now on Monday.
03:15 So we have full six days to know exactly
03:17 what this is gonna be,
03:18 but you said you want the Texans to beat the--
03:20 - I want the Texans to get it done.
03:21 I see CJ is balling out there,
03:23 he's showing us why he was the first round draft pick.
03:26 And he's from my city, gotta shout out Pomona, man.
03:30 I see them taking this game.
03:31 I think they got a high power offense,
03:33 they put the ball in the air.
03:34 The man may get MVP.
03:35 So let's see what goes down.
03:38 - Will, what do you think?
03:39 - I like it.
03:40 I think Texans win the division.
03:41 I think this is a massive game.
03:43 And I think the Texans are playing good ball.
03:45 I'm rocking with CJ Stroud and the Texans, man.
03:47 - Dan?
03:48 - Yeah, I will also take the Texans,
03:50 which makes me nervous we all have the Texans.
03:52 I, so this is weird to say,
03:55 but the Texans did not look great against the Cardinals,
03:58 but in a weird way, I think that makes them a better team
04:01 because they won a game with their C effort.
04:04 Like CJ Stroud was not good in that second half.
04:07 He had three turnovers.
04:08 He just didn't look right.
04:11 But their defense bowed up,
04:12 got some big fourth down stops.
04:14 And it's almost in a weird way,
04:16 like those type of games,
04:17 where you can tell a team is not on their A game,
04:20 but they're still able to find a way to win
04:22 that I like start to think of you in a different light
04:24 and saying, oh, you can go win.
04:26 No one's going to win the Super Bowl
04:28 with A plus games all the way through.
04:30 Like you have to be able to beat teams
04:33 when you don't have your best effort.
04:34 So I like the Texans.
04:36 I think they're a very good team.
04:37 - Where do you stand on CJ Stroud in the MVP race?
04:39 - I do not think he's MVP,
04:41 but he's been incredible.
04:43 I think we like to throw him in the MVP.
04:45 I actually don't know who is the MVP.
04:47 - Like who do you see winning?
04:48 - I'm going to look at the odds.
04:49 - Who's the MVP?
04:50 - Who the hell is the MVP?
04:51 I mean, Mahomes feels like he always gets,
04:54 his numbers haven't been like.
04:55 - Yeah, Mahomes.
04:56 - But no, not this year.
04:58 - Tua, Tua.
04:59 - No.
04:59 - There's not like a crazy answer.
05:01 - Tua's up there.
05:02 - He's up there, but, huh?
05:04 - Oh, McCaffrey's not terrible.
05:06 Right now it's Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson,
05:07 and Patrick Mahomes all at three to one,
05:10 and Tua's at five and a half to one.
05:11 - The typical.
05:12 - So those are the four.
05:14 - I mean, Lamar's nasty.
05:15 - Yeah, I mean, unfortunately too,
05:17 the MVP does always, or not always,
05:19 but usually goes to the best team.
05:21 - Yeah.
05:22 - Like it's become a team award, which kind of sucks.
05:24 - Yes.
05:24 - Okay, let's talk about the Bills and the Eagles.
05:26 The Eagles right now favored by three and a half.
05:28 Of course, again, as we're filming this on Monday,
05:30 we don't know if the Eagles beat the Chiefs
05:32 on Monday night football.
05:32 So that is still TBD,
05:33 but we know the Bills killed the Jets.
05:36 So Will, I will start with you.
05:37 What do you think is going to happen in this game?
05:41 We don't know what's going to happen with the Eagles.
05:43 - Philly.
05:44 I think Philly's won.
05:44 - What if there's an injury?
05:46 - Yeah.
05:47 - Mm-hmm.
05:47 - What?
05:48 - What if there's an injury?
05:49 - Because they played tight.
05:51 - But I don't, yeah.
05:51 - I like Philly.
05:53 Like I know the Bills won, they beat the Jets,
05:56 but I still think-
05:57 - What if they won by 40 against the Chiefs?
05:59 - Yeah.
06:00 - If the Eagles won by 40?
06:01 - Yeah.
06:02 - Then that makes my point even.
06:03 - But then they're like kind of riding real high off that.
06:05 - What if they lose by 40?
06:06 - But that's what I think.
06:07 I think this team knows how to handle winning.
06:08 They know how to handle losing.
06:09 They're a very vet savvy locker room.
06:11 - Yeah, that's so true.
06:12 - What if they all get sick?
06:14 - COVID.
06:15 - Yeah.
06:16 - I don't know if I can go along on my Twitter
06:17 if I have to change this publicly.
06:18 - Okay, all right, all right.
06:19 - But I like-
06:20 - Okay, I know, I know.
06:20 - I know, I know.
06:21 - I know, I know.
06:22 - I don't know what happened.
06:23 - You know, it is TV.
06:24 It's a holiday week.
06:25 - I'm sure about this.
06:25 'Cause you can get fascinated by the Buffalo Bills
06:28 beating up on the Jets, but it's like eh.
06:30 - But-
06:31 - What if Nick Sirianni gets hit with a football
06:32 and gets concussed?
06:33 Concussion protocol all week for Nick Sirianni.
06:37 - I think based on the show, we have the right to reserve.
06:39 If they're an injury that takes place,
06:41 we gotta be like, hey.
06:42 - The big asterisk next to it?
06:43 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:44 - Okay, Dan, who are you taking?
06:45 - I'm gonna take the Bills.
06:46 The Bills have to win every game from here on out.
06:49 They have put themselves in quite the hole.
06:51 And will they win this game?
06:54 I don't know, but I do think it will be a close game.
06:56 And if you get three and a half,
06:57 I'm gonna take the three and a half.
06:58 So I will take the Bills.
06:59 I'll take the hook there.
07:01 And I also think the Chiefs beat the Eagles.
07:05 So this is gonna sound stupid if that didn't happen.
07:07 I think the Chiefs beat the Eagles.
07:09 And I think this line might close more like two and a half.
07:12 So I'm gonna get a little value.
07:13 - What if it was...
07:14 Yeah, but you're saying you like the Bills
07:19 with three and a half, right?
07:20 - Yeah, but if it changes, if they lose.
07:22 - It swings in the Buffalo's favor.
07:25 - If the Eagles lose, he's saying.
07:26 - Yeah, what if it goes to one and a half?
07:28 - Then I got three and a half.
07:29 - Yeah.
07:30 So that would be helping him.
07:32 - I know, I'm saying if you weren't taking it
07:34 at three and a half right now,
07:36 and it moved at the end of the week,
07:37 and then it's at one and a half,
07:38 are you still taking one and a half with the Bills?
07:41 Is what I'm asking.
07:42 - No, I have them at three and a half.
07:43 - I know you have them at three and a half.
07:45 No, you've got them at three and a half.
07:47 Would you still choose the Bills
07:48 if the Bills was one and a half?
07:49 - Yeah, I'd probably change my opinion.
07:49 Yes, yes, you're right, you're right, you're right.
07:51 Yes.
07:52 Under a field goal, yes, I would probably take the Eagles.
07:55 Maybe I'll middle.
07:56 Maybe I'll get two points out of this.
07:57 - Maybe.
07:58 - Maybe it ends up a pick 'em,
07:59 and I take the Eagles pick 'em,
08:00 Bills plus three and a half.
08:01 And I go up two on you.
08:02 - But he has three and a half.
08:03 - I get it, I understand.
08:04 - His point is he has three and a half.
08:06 - You were asking the right question.
08:07 You were asking the right question.
08:08 Your question was if the Eagles right now
08:11 were favored minus two and a half,
08:12 would I pick the Eagles?
08:13 Probably.
08:14 So yeah.
08:15 I just think this is gonna be a field goal game.
08:17 - Who the offensive coordinator
08:18 for the Buffalo Bills right now?
08:20 - It is Joe Brady.
08:21 - Yeah.
08:22 - He was fired from where?
08:23 - Charlotte.
08:24 He was Joe Burrow's offensive coordinator at LSU.
08:28 - Yeah.
08:29 - It's important there.
08:31 - Definitely gotta go Eagles.
08:31 - You still get fired.
08:32 - You going to Eagles?
08:33 - He was fired at LSU.
08:34 - Yeah.
08:35 - He was at LSU.
08:36 He was important, but not.
08:37 - Right.
08:38 - Yeah, not with the Bills.
08:40 - Listen, they did it.
08:42 And now I think maybe this was more Josh playing
08:45 in the way he needs to play against the Jets.
08:48 He was taking a few more underneath shots
08:50 because I think when Ken Dorsey gets fired,
08:54 Josh Allen's gonna be like, well, fuck.
08:55 Like this is kind of on me.
08:57 Like I have to start playing better football.
08:59 I have to take care of the football.
09:00 My offensive coordinator,
09:02 who I think Josh Allen like, that was his guy,
09:05 gets fired.
09:06 So it might not be as much Joe Brady
09:08 as it is Josh Allen being like,
09:10 I gotta focus and play clean football from here on out.
09:13 - And he's got that,
09:14 we were talking about it last week with Kyle too,
09:15 like that confidence factor.
09:17 - Yeah.
09:18 - Yeah.
09:18 - He's gonna sling it.
09:19 - Gunslinger.
09:20 - He is.
09:21 - Let's go to the game of the week presented
09:22 by the Chevy Silverado.
09:23 It is the Ravens at the Chargers.
09:24 The Ravens favored by three and a half.
09:26 Before we get to the game,
09:27 let's go to Lucas Edits presented by Jersey Jerry.
09:30 - It's actually a good game.
09:32 - All right, welcome back.
09:33 Lucas Edits presented by Jersey Jerry.
09:37 This is an exciting game.
09:38 Baltimore Ravens at the Los Angeles Chargers.
09:42 Lamar Jackson first quarter.
09:44 Pass complete, first and goal.
09:46 We're gonna jump to third and goal now.
09:48 Lamar back to pass, right over the middle.
09:51 Mark Andrews, seven nothing, Baltimore leads.
09:54 Justin Herbert drives right back down the field
09:57 and has an open receiver, but it's short.
09:59 It's not a touchdown.
10:01 It's gonna move to first and goal again.
10:03 There must've been a penalty.
10:04 Justin Herbert, first and goal.
10:07 Touchdown, 7-7, tie ball game.
10:09 Jumping right into it, 14-14.
10:13 Herbert with the ball.
10:15 Fourth quarter, two minutes left.
10:17 Drops back to pass and completes a horrendous throw.
10:20 I mean, horrendous.
10:22 They have to settle for the field goal.
10:23 The field goal is good.
10:24 17-14, Chargers lead, but Lamar ain't done yet.
10:29 And it's a wide open.
10:31 Touch, no, it's not a touchdown.
10:32 Inside the 10, first and goal.
10:35 Lamar Jackson drops back.
10:36 Easy money, touchdown, Ravens lead.
10:40 This game is over.
10:42 This game is over, 21-17.
10:44 No, Herbert drove right back down the field.
10:45 One second left, it's over.
10:47 No shot at by Elmery.
10:49 And it's no good.
10:51 There's a flag!
10:53 There's a flag on the play.
10:54 Penalty, Nienzo pass interferes.
10:56 Herbert, one last chance.
10:59 It's a touchdown, it's a touchdown.
11:01 Justin Herber and the Chargers win the game.
11:03 Wow.
11:04 23-23.
11:05 Wow, what a game, man.
11:06 That's crazy.
11:07 I was about to say, there's no way that he's letting Lamar Jackson win.
11:11 Whoa.
11:12 Yeah, that's exactly, I was like, what is going on?
11:15 He hates it, he does not like Lamar.
11:17 So there's no way that a Lucas edits presented by Jersey Jerry has Lamar Jackson taking a W.
11:22 Never.
11:23 That was weird.
11:24 It's Lucas edits, though.
11:26 All right, Dan, what do you think about this game?
11:28 Um, I'm so sick of the Chargers shit.
11:32 They suck.
11:33 I am.
11:34 That was deep.
11:35 Brandon Staley, nice guy.
11:38 Like he had a meltdown with the defense, you know, in a press conference afterwards.
11:43 Justin Herbert, he's starting to show early onset rivers where he's just like so angry
11:48 at everyone else because I would be too if I were him.
11:51 He does everything and he can't like, the team lets him down constantly.
11:56 I'm going to take the Ravens.
11:57 They're playing very good ball.
11:59 They're coming off a little extra rest here.
12:01 Yeah, I'll take the Ravens minus three and a half.
12:04 Will?
12:05 Same.
12:06 I like the Ravens in prime time.
12:07 I mean, it's three and a half, too.
12:08 I think the Chargers, they move the ball well, but the Ravens.
12:11 Bosa might be out, too.
12:14 Marc Andrews is out.
12:15 Yeah, Marc Andrews is out for sure.
12:16 He's out for sure.
12:18 The Ravens, I think, like as bad as the Chargers, the Chargers defense is bad.
12:22 And the Ravens offense, like they'll be able to move the ball.
12:25 They can move the ball against anybody, but they'll definitely be able to move the ball
12:27 against the Chargers I like.
12:29 Especially the way that the Chargers' biggest weakness is the middle of their defense is
12:34 really bad.
12:35 Their linebackers are bad and their scheme sucks.
12:38 And so the Ravens, what do they get to do?
12:40 I mean, they're going to be able to run it, get it to the second level.
12:43 Also like crossers, Odell Beckham, Zay Flowers, like those guys are hard to guard in space.
12:48 I just think they're going to feast on them.
12:50 Delaney?
12:51 Same.
12:52 Baltimore Ravens.
12:53 Like you said, Odell's, I think he's healthy now.
12:54 He's looking better.
12:55 He's trying to get the ball in his hands.
12:56 And he's getting confident.
12:57 And he's getting confident.
12:58 I know.
12:59 Now he's starting to look like the old Odell and I'm excited.
13:00 You ever do a jersey swap with him?
13:02 Nah.
13:03 Who'd you do a jersey swap with?
13:04 I mean, I'm going to be honest with you.
13:06 I never even shook hands after the game.
13:08 Really?
13:09 Why?
13:10 I don't know, man.
13:11 I'm old school.
13:12 I just run straight to the locker room.
13:13 You're trying to get, you're trying to shower, change, get out.
13:16 No, I'll still be the last person to always leave the facility.
13:19 You have to be.
13:20 Yeah, cold tub.
13:21 First one in, last one out.
13:22 Yeah, I cold tub, do all that.
13:23 But I never, I don't know, that's just not my thing.
13:26 You talk to all that crap, now you want my jersey?
13:28 You want to shake hands?
13:29 You want to hug and pray?
13:30 Nah, bro.
13:31 So even if you had a friend on the other team or something?
13:34 We'll holler at him.
13:35 I'll get you a jersey when we get to the house.
13:37 We ain't doing all that.
13:38 I got, and mine is just taped up.
13:40 You know how hard it is?
13:41 Yeah.
13:42 Did you ever get denied a jersey swap with anyone important?
13:44 I don't think everybody wanted my jersey.
13:47 Did you swap jerseys?
13:48 Did you swap jerseys?
13:49 Yeah.
13:50 I always wanted a Compton though.
13:52 What would it be like with the, with France?
13:53 Like Nebraska guys?
13:54 Nebraska guys only.
13:55 Oh, Levante, Levante David.
13:56 You ever take a shot?
13:57 It would be so funny.
14:00 Like at somebody big?
14:01 Like just Tom Brady after a game?
14:02 Yeah, Brady, let me get yours.
14:03 Yo, yo, you want the old 51?
14:04 In your basement?
14:05 That would be so funny.
14:06 I wish you had.
14:07 I always wanted a Compton though.
14:08 Oh my God.
14:09 That would have been incredible if you started just going to the number one player on the
14:15 other team.
14:16 Being like, yo, I don't even want the 51.
14:17 You want this 5'1"?
14:18 They just throw it in the trash for you.
14:19 You get yours, who cares?
14:20 This is probably a dumb question, but are jersey swaps like planned out before?
14:25 You need to tell your equipment people, because if you don't tell them, sometimes they get
14:29 pissed off.
14:30 Really?
14:31 Oh yeah.
14:32 They'll charge you.
14:33 Really?
14:34 Because if you say you have a really good game, they'll come to you like, hey, don't
14:35 give your jersey up, because they're going to send it off or they're going to sell it
14:38 and make money.
14:39 That's bullshit.
14:40 That's how it works.
14:41 You're talking about the equipment guys, right?
14:42 Yeah, yeah.
14:43 Yes, bro.
14:44 They'll be like, don't give your jersey up.
14:45 When you ball out, they'll be like, hey, don't give that jersey up.
14:47 The NFL wants it.
14:48 And then you got to give it up.
14:49 And it's on eBay the next day.
14:51 Yeah, you'll be like, wait.
14:52 Yeah.
14:53 They'll buy it on some market, like an underground market, because I've gotten a couple of mine
14:56 back.
14:57 People are like, hey, Will, do you want this jersey?
14:59 I'll give you this original one from Washington if you give me a Titans one.
15:03 Yeah, I know.
15:04 So I'll have to trade and negotiate for my own jersey.
15:07 I know.
15:08 But how'd you find this?
15:09 They're like, I have no clue how it works.
15:10 That's crazy.
15:11 I just, as watching it at home, you're like, did these guys just decide in the moment to
15:15 swap jerseys?
15:16 But you're saying it has to be planned out.
15:18 Sometimes they tell them before the game.
15:20 It all depends.
15:21 Or you just trade, and then the equipment guys get mad at you.
15:23 They're like, OK, it's my jersey.
15:24 Yeah.
15:25 OK.
15:26 Jerry, who do you have in this game?
15:27 I assume the Chargers?
15:28 Yeah, I think the Chargers are going to actually win this game.
15:30 I just think the Ravens have been too hot.
15:33 And eventually, you know, I'm not going to say they're going to crumble and lose the
15:36 rest of the season, but they're going to drop a game here and there.
15:38 I think this is the perfect spot for them to drop it.
15:40 Mark Andrews is going to be down a little bit.
15:42 So Herbert looks really good.
15:43 He does.
15:44 They lost a couple of weeks ago.
15:45 Yeah.
15:46 Who'd they lose to?
15:47 The Browns.
15:48 The Browns, yeah.
15:49 Yeah.
15:50 Number one D, though.
15:51 So the division, that usually gets split.
15:52 This is different.
15:53 He's not going to pick the Ravens.
15:54 Yeah.
15:55 No, I--
15:56 Chargers got like the worst--
15:57 My gut feeling-- like, this is a Tommy DeVito pick for me.
16:02 Oh.
16:03 Ooh.
16:04 Like, that's how confident I am in the Chargers.
16:05 Ooh.
16:06 And if you watch the Thanksgiving special, you know that the guys did apologize to Jerry
16:10 for that.
16:11 He's paying, just to make sure.
16:12 Yeah.
16:13 He's paying, yes.
16:14 They didn't double.
16:15 Yeah, double.
16:16 He's like, you guys got 10 points.
16:17 Everybody, pay Jerry his money.
16:19 Yes.
16:20 Yes.
16:21 It did happen, and it is documented on the Thanksgiving special.
16:23 He gave him a crisp $100 bill for the Steelers scoring 10 points and for everybody saying
16:28 he was smoking crack, talking about Tommy DeVito.
16:30 Nine and a half, they scored 10.
16:31 Nine and a four.
16:32 Nine and a four.
16:33 All right, let's move to the gotta have it picks of the week.
16:37 Dan, we will start with you.
16:38 Your game is the Saints at the Falcons.
16:40 Who has to have it?
16:41 Both teams have to have it very badly.
16:44 Our guy Arthur Smith is on the hot seat, if we're being frank.
16:49 And the Saints, they, look, someone's got to win the NFC South.
16:53 And it feels like the Saints are maybe the best team.
16:56 If you're like, hey, if everyone put in their A plus effort, it would probably be the Saints.
17:02 But both teams need it so bad.
17:04 I'm going to take the Saints.
17:06 I don't feel good about it, but I'm going to take the Saints.
17:08 What's the line?
17:09 Falcons minus one?
17:10 Yeah.
17:11 Sure.
17:12 I mean, that's the.
17:13 I'm going to take the Falcons.
17:14 Wow.
17:15 Wow.
17:16 That's where I'm going.
17:17 Falcons.
17:18 Yeah.
17:19 I'm going Falcons.
17:20 And because you felt so indifferent on your pick about the Saints.
17:22 Yes.
17:23 And just, you know, getting in the gambling space now, I'm like, I have to take advantage
17:26 of him not feeling good about this.
17:28 Yeah.
17:29 These are the type of games, like, Saints, I don't fucking know.
17:32 What Saints team is going to show up on Sunday?
17:34 Right.
17:35 We have no idea.
17:36 Yeah, you never know.
17:37 And Dwayne, you're taking the Falcons too?
17:38 I'm taking the Falcons as well.
17:39 I'm riding with that.
17:40 It's like, you just want the Falcons to put together four good boys.
17:42 I mean, that's my boy, Arthur.
17:43 I know.
17:44 I'm sorry I had to say that he's in the hot seat, but he is.
17:47 I don't know about that.
17:48 He'll get off it.
17:49 Yeah.
17:50 He'll work his way off it.
17:51 Yeah.
17:52 But we have to at least, you know.
17:53 Right.
17:54 We're riding with it.
17:55 We're riding with it.
17:56 You have to acknowledge the issue before you can conquer it.
17:58 But then they come out.
17:59 Hot seat's there.
18:00 And say that he riding with Arthur no matter what.
18:01 He like made a statement.
18:02 Listen.
18:03 Who's this?
18:04 Listen.
18:05 Delaney.
18:06 The owner.
18:07 Delaney.
18:08 OK.
18:09 Let's do a little class here for you guys, because you guys were in the locker rooms.
18:12 You don't fully understand on the media side how this stuff works.
18:16 Talk to us.
18:17 OK.
18:18 There's telltale signs that there's problems.
18:21 Number one, the coach decides that he is going to either give someone else the play calling
18:27 or take back the play calling.
18:28 That's a problem.
18:29 Frank Reich in the Panthers.
18:31 When you start shuffling around play calling, it's like we don't have answers.
18:34 We have to just basically do busy work to make everyone think that we're doing something.
18:38 Number two, when the owner comes out and says, he's our guy.
18:43 We like him.
18:44 And you're like, wait, what?
18:45 Why would you have to say that?
18:46 Like, of course.
18:47 He's your coach.
18:48 The fact that he's saying it, that's a problem.
18:50 OK.
18:51 Where there's smoke and fire.
18:52 That's how it works.
18:53 Because we do that in the media.
18:55 We beat around the question.
18:56 Tell you a lie.
18:57 Because they told us what to say.
18:59 Right.
19:00 Right.
19:01 As soon as someone-- Like Jets receivers.
19:02 Zach's saying, we still like Zach.
19:04 Right.
19:05 It's actually-- yeah.
19:06 Arthur Smith did it with Desmond Ritter when he was like, Desmond Ritter's our quarterback.
19:10 One week later, it was like, Taylor Hyatt.
19:11 The minute you have to say someone is your guy, I'm like, that's not your guy anymore.
19:16 Well, it happens in real life too.
19:17 It's like if you have to say to somebody, yeah, no, I'm really happy in my marriage.
19:20 People are like, well, we assumed that you were.
19:21 Yeah, wait, why'd you bring that up?
19:22 Yeah, we didn't ask you.
19:23 Right.
19:24 You know?
19:25 We didn't ask you.
19:26 So what's going on behind the scenes?
19:27 That's what this is.
19:28 OK, I'll take that.
19:29 Fair point.
19:30 I'll take that.
19:31 But with all that said, we were riding with Arthur Smith.
19:32 Yeah, no, we're riding with him.
19:33 But I'd be nervous.
19:34 If the owner says that, that would be like, fuck, I'm packing my bags right now.
19:38 And they're going back to Ritter.
19:40 Yeah, he started--
19:41 Like, I know Heineken's hurt.
19:42 This is what I'm saying.
19:43 But he's saying even without that, they're shuffling him back in.
19:46 You just shuffle things.
19:47 I say it's shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
19:49 You're just kind of moving stuff around, being like, we're fine.
19:52 The boat's not going down.
19:54 We're just going to push this over here.
19:56 Hopefully Ritter's head is where it needs to be, because that does-- it's like, oh,
20:01 you're not believing in it, now you are.
20:02 I mean, he's been going through that.
20:04 Marcus is in the same situation with Marcus.
20:06 They play Marcus, benched him, put Ritter in, benched him, put Marcus back in.
20:09 And then, you know, when Marcus had to take his hiatus, then it was Ritter after that.
20:14 The one thing that makes no sense to me about the Atlanta Falcons-- how, how, how were they
20:20 willing to try to trade for Deshaun Watson and pay him a lot of money and not willing
20:25 to do the same for Lamar Jackson?
20:26 It makes no sense.
20:27 Yeah.
20:28 Like, they were in the Deshaun Watson conversations.
20:31 And then Lamar is upset, and like, the Ravens are like, yeah, we'll trade him if we get
20:34 the right offer.
20:35 Lamar Jackson and Atlanta would have been incredible.
20:36 Incredible.
20:37 Would have been one of the best teams in the league.
20:41 Yeah.
20:42 Yeah.
20:43 Because they were closer to Deshaun.
20:44 Yeah.
20:45 All right.
20:46 Deshaun's came in last minute.
20:47 You've got to have it, pick of the week, the Steelers at the Bengals.
20:50 Bengals without Joe Burrow.
20:53 I think the Steelers have to have it.
20:55 Again, you know, if they're going to compete for a wild card spot, they have to win this
21:02 game against the Bengals, especially since the Bengals are without Joe Burrow.
21:06 But I like the Bengals in this one.
21:09 I think the defense shows up and helps bail out the offense.
21:13 Just because, again, I just don't think the Steelers-- no disrespect, Jerry-- I just don't
21:16 think-- I'm with you.
21:17 I don't think the Steelers are, like, that good of a team.
21:19 I mean, pick it is not-- Pick it or defense is solid.
21:22 The offense is abysmal.
21:23 Yeah.
21:24 Defense is solid.
21:25 They're going to keep games close.
21:26 Yeah, they'll keep it close.
21:27 I mean, they got a defensive front.
21:28 That's what's-- How's Hayward?
21:29 How's Hayward, by the way?
21:30 Having a good year.
21:31 I know, but he-- I saw-- I saw he was down yesterday.
21:32 Did he go back in?
21:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:34 He's good.
21:35 He's good.
21:36 Dan, who are you taking?
21:37 Pass.
21:38 Bengals.
21:39 Bengals.
21:40 Why?
21:41 The Steelers is garbage.
21:42 We just sat here and said that.
21:43 But Jake Browning as the quarterback for the Bengals?
21:44 I feel like they get it done.
21:45 They're going to get some easy passes.
21:46 They're going to throw a lot of behind the back.
21:47 They're going to throw a lot of behind the back.
21:48 But Jake Browning as the quarterback for the Bengals?
21:52 I feel like they get it done.
21:53 They're going to get some easy passes.
21:54 They're going to throw a lot of behind the-- behind the line of scrimmage passes.
21:58 Get the ball in the receiver's hands.
21:59 Let them make plays.
22:00 Quick game.
22:01 Because that's what they do.
22:02 Quick game.
22:03 Hand the ball off.
22:04 You got a running back that is pounding cats right now.
22:06 Just keep-- manage the game.
22:07 Don't make him try to go out there and look like Joe.
22:10 Just be who he is.
22:11 Let's get him some quick passes.
22:13 Get him the ball out of his hand.
22:14 Let the receivers make plays.
22:15 Yeah.
22:16 What about, though, like the deflation in the locker room if you lose your quarterback?
22:20 I don't know whether you-- I'm sure you had a year where you lost your starter.
22:23 It's tough, though.
22:24 You know what I mean?
22:25 When you lose a guy like Joe, he was just getting healthy.
22:27 They were starting to look good again.
22:28 And then, damn, this happens.
22:30 You know what I mean?
22:31 They start to fall.
22:32 But I feel like all them guys that's in that locker room should surround their second string
22:35 quarterback and be like, we got you.
22:36 Lean on us.
22:37 Whenever you need something, give me the ball.
22:39 I'll make a play for you.
22:40 And I think that's what's happening right now.
22:41 And that's the message in that locker room.
22:43 OK.
22:44 All right.
22:45 You just need a little bit of extra information.
22:46 Yeah, no.
22:47 I just need some help.
22:48 That's a good explanation.
22:49 I need some help.
22:50 I appreciate the help.
22:51 Yeah.
22:52 We're going to lean on y'all.
22:53 Yeah.
22:54 All right, Delaney, your gotta have it pick.
22:55 Minka's back?
22:56 Yeah.
22:57 Jerry has also, like, Minka Fitzpatrick, in the time that he missed, he became like Ed
23:02 Reid on steroids.
23:03 Yeah.
23:04 Like, every time that there was a big play, Jerry was just like, Minka would have made
23:08 that.
23:09 He, like, fixed everything.
23:10 Yeah.
23:11 I honestly-- He still doesn't play offense.
23:13 I really don't think Minka makes a big difference.
23:15 Yeah.
23:16 Yeah.
23:17 No.
23:18 He's a great player, but, like, in games like these, it doesn't matter.
23:19 So you're just completely out on the Steelers this year?
23:21 I just don't think their offense just can't compete.
23:25 They're the second worst scoring team in football.
23:27 Are you out on Kenny?
23:28 No.
23:29 Not yet.
23:30 No.
23:31 I need a new scheme.
23:32 He's struggling.
23:33 He's struggling.
23:34 He's struggling.
23:35 Yeah.
23:36 If he's a good quarterback, he wouldn't, like-- you still make it happen, in some sense,
23:37 in the scheme that you're in.
23:38 Yeah.
23:39 Like-- Because we watch games live, and he's missing, guys.
23:42 I just did a podcast about it, and I said, it would be one thing if Kenny was in the
23:47 wrong scheme, but he was still at the ceiling of that scheme.
23:52 He's nowhere close to the ceiling of any scheme.
23:55 So-- I mean, with them receivers y'all got, too,
23:57 he should-- should be layup.
23:59 I don't understand why the Steelers can't throw the ball in the middle of the field.
24:02 They don't-- yeah, they don't-- He'll even try to throw it over the middle
24:04 and just throw it over their head.
24:06 It's insane.
24:07 The accuracy is terrible.
24:08 Next.
24:09 Yeah, we'll do next.
24:10 OK.
24:11 So, Kenny, you're gotta have it match up the Panthers to the Titans.
24:13 Who gotta have it?
24:15 They both gotta have it.
24:16 I mean, they both-- cookies is crumbling over there, but the Titans definitely gotta have
24:19 it.
24:20 I feel like if they fall to the Panthers, I don't think the head coach will be on the
24:24 hot seat, but I think the coaches around them will be on the hot seat.
24:27 I'm talking, like, the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator, just not putting
24:31 them boys in a good situation to win games.
24:33 And this is a game they gotta have, because if they fall to the Panthers, the city of
24:37 Tennessee-- the city of Tennessee is gonna go nuts.
24:40 I mean, the city of Nashville is gonna go nuts, be hella crazy.
24:43 They're gonna wanna fire Mike, and I don't think that's the option.
24:47 But again, this is a rebuild year, so I think they need to get this done so we can have
24:51 some high notes, not losing to a team that's one and, what, ten right now?
24:55 One and nine.
24:56 One and nine.
24:57 Yeah.
24:58 Yeah, I agree with Delaney.
24:59 Nashville would crumble, huh?
25:00 Yeah.
25:01 Yeah.
25:02 They already kinda are.
25:03 They already are.
25:04 Yeah.
25:05 Yeah, you can't lose this game.
25:06 People are trying to call for Coach Braves' head right now, and I do.
25:09 I don't think it's the right decision.
25:10 I don't think that's the right decision.
25:11 He's the right leader.
25:12 Like, being around multiple head coaches, like, his messaging and everything he does
25:15 from a process standpoint is on point.
25:18 So I do not think that that is the right, you know, fall into pieces as a Titans fan.
25:23 But to your point, if, as the Titans are gonna probably continue to struggle, even if they
25:28 win this game, the coordinator, a lot of internal guys should have their head on the table,
25:32 because you gotta do something.
25:34 Yes.
25:35 And it's more than just talent as well.
25:37 Dan?
25:38 I'll go with the Titans.
25:40 I'll go with the boys.
25:41 Okay.
25:42 It's three and a half.
25:43 Make sure you get the updated numbers, Tom.
25:46 I don't want you stealing from us.
25:48 And this one, three and a half.
25:50 Three and a half.
25:51 Tom, to Tom's favor, he usually helps us.
25:53 Well, it's a tough week.
25:54 If the line changes.
25:55 It's a tough week.
25:56 Yeah, because it's Monday.
25:57 I only say that because I was looking at the games we're about to talk about, and the Giants,
26:00 he has, let's say, his five and a half point favorite, or underdogs.
26:02 They're only a three point underdog.
26:03 So I was like, I was trying to look ahead and see what game's coming up.
26:08 Got you.
26:09 Yeah.
26:10 And these lines will change all week.
26:11 Yeah.
26:12 They'll change all week.
26:13 It is Monday.
26:14 Reminder, it's Monday.
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26:24 You don't work.
26:25 I was going to take the Patriots.
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26:36 We are going to start with the Bucs at the Colts.
26:39 As we just mentioned, the lines may change, but Will, right now the Colts are minus one.
26:43 Who are you taking?
26:46 I don't know, man.
26:47 You want help?
26:48 Yeah, yeah.
26:49 Give me some help.
26:50 Give me help.
26:51 It is Monday.
26:52 You got a couple sleepless nights in Vegas.
26:53 That's on me.
26:54 Yeah, Dan, help me out.
26:55 The Colts are off a bye.
26:58 The Colts are in the playoff picture.
27:01 This team is playing for something right now.
27:04 We all thought the Colts were not going to be a good team this year.
27:07 They're five and five, and they are like, I think they're the eighth or ninth seed right
27:12 now.
27:13 The Bucs are a disaster.
27:15 They can't do anything.
27:16 But the NFC is still in the South.
27:18 It's pretty wide open.
27:19 The South is wide open.
27:20 Yeah, no, the Bucs are playing, but like, I just don't, what do the Bucs do well?
27:24 What do the Bucs do well?
27:25 They stop the run.
27:26 Yeah, I was going to say defense every now and then.
27:28 But their secondary is not great.
27:30 Yeah.
27:31 No, that's not the run.
27:32 But I'm going to take the Colts at home in a short number.
27:36 And yeah, I think the Colts are going to be like, they're going to sniff around this playoff.
27:40 They're going to be in it come late December.
27:42 I'm with that.
27:43 No, I want to buy that.
27:44 I want to buy everything you just said.
27:46 Because to his point, too, it's like, you can feel and see the optimism on TV, even
27:50 with Minshew out there and everything else.
27:52 Like, yeah, this is a team that has reasons to rally, and they're showing that, too.
27:56 Like, the Bucs could be a little bit of a dumpster.
27:58 And you guys can tell me if this is crazy to just even throw this in there.
28:01 But the Bucs go across the country to San Francisco, get whooped by the Niners, come
28:08 back home to Tampa, then have to go to Indianapolis.
28:11 Indianapolis has been on a buy.
28:13 That feels like a big rest advantage for the Colts.
28:16 Yeah.
28:17 I love that.
28:18 Delaney, you with them?
28:19 I'm with them.
28:20 Yeah, they got to travel to Indy.
28:21 Yeah, I'm with them.
28:22 OK.
28:23 Let's go to the Patriots and the Giants.
28:24 Dan, as you mentioned, it is 3 and 1/2.
28:26 Three.
28:27 Three.
28:28 Three.
28:29 Three.
28:30 OK, so it's three.
28:31 So the Patriots are minus three.
28:32 Yeah, my plan was to take the Patriots because Tommy DeVito-- shout out Jerry, he was right--
28:38 Tommy DeVito was fantastic against the Commanders.
28:41 Now you get Bill Belichick off a buy, being able to defensively scheme something up for
28:46 Tommy DeVito, rookie quarterback.
28:48 I don't think-- I don't know who's playing quarterback for the Patriots.
28:51 I don't think it really matters.
28:52 I think the Patriots are going to win this game.
28:54 I'll take them minus three.
28:56 Delaney?
28:57 Ooh.
28:58 You like Tommy DeVito?
28:59 I feel like what he did last week was just--
29:02 He played well.
29:03 He played well.
29:04 Special.
29:05 Special.
29:06 Well, the Giants are mad at him.
29:07 He got them motivated.
29:08 Special.
29:09 He's special.
29:10 They didn't want to win that game.
29:11 The Giants wanted to keep tanking, so-- I mean, yeah, obviously.
29:12 They're mad at him.
29:13 Tanking doesn't exist.
29:14 It doesn't-- that ain't a thing.
29:15 That is not a thing.
29:16 Not for players.
29:17 That's not a thing.
29:18 Of course it's not.
29:19 I saw-- Fans are mad at him for playing so well.
29:20 There was a clip after with Tommy DeVito and Saquon on the field, and they were just like
29:24 so pumped.
29:25 This is why tanking does not exist in the NFL.
29:27 These guys are playing for each other in their jobs.
29:31 Especially Tommy DeVito.
29:32 Right.
29:33 That's why I feel like-- You think he's going to tank?
29:34 Yeah.
29:35 And that's why I'm going to go Giants.
29:37 Just in that fact, I feel like they rallying behind that.
29:40 You seen it after the game.
29:41 They were so excited.
29:42 They was just happy to see him do that.
29:44 And I think the dude done threw like three touchdowns for like five different teams from
29:48 college all the way up to the pros.
29:50 So I mean, he can play.
29:52 Give him the opportunity.
29:53 Jerry, do you like Tommy in this game?
29:54 Yeah, I do.
29:55 Oh, you got to roll with him.
29:56 I think I'm rolling with Jerry.
29:57 You have to roll with Jerry because you were--
29:59 I really questioned him last week.
30:00 I was like, come on, don't do the Dolphins.
30:03 He's still surviving.
30:04 But yeah, I'm right with Jerry's instinct.
30:06 After this week, I don't like DeVito though.
30:08 But this week?
30:09 This week, yeah.
30:10 This week, you like him?
30:11 And anything he says now with that, I mean, after the clip went viral in our main accounts
30:13 of the crack.
30:14 I mean, it is the Patriots.
30:15 Did it go viral?
30:16 They struggling.
30:17 I mean, not viral, but-- They are.
30:18 They're struggling.
30:19 But you were saying like they argue on the sideline.
30:22 You had those feel good moments.
30:23 I've never seen that before.
30:24 Yeah, you had those feel good moments like after a game like you were saying with Saquon.
30:26 And Tommy, it's like, it does.
30:28 It gives you a little bit of weird juice late in the year, even though you might not be
30:32 playing for anything.
30:33 Yeah.
30:34 Jerry, there were a lot of people making sure that today, like this morning and after the
30:37 game that they were like, make sure Jerry gets his credit.
30:40 Make sure that they were saying this didn't age well.
30:42 Love that.
30:43 That's nice.
30:44 That's nice.
30:45 All right, the Rams at the Cardinals, Delaney.
30:46 The Rams are minus 2 and 1/2 right now, I think.
30:49 Who's starting the quarterback for the Rams?
30:51 It's a pick 'em right now.
30:52 It's a pick 'em.
30:53 Oh, it's a pick 'em right now.
30:54 Never mind.
30:55 Rams, Stafford's back.
30:56 Oh, I'm going LA Rams.
30:57 OK.
30:58 Hands down.
30:59 Puka up there.
31:00 Matt Stafford.
31:01 Cooper Cupp did get banged up.
31:02 He got banged up.
31:03 I don't know what's going to happen with him.
31:06 Where are you leaning?
31:07 I'm leaning Rams because even when Cooper was down, Puka was really showing up.
31:10 Showing up.
31:11 They were finding ways to win.
31:12 They were playing tough.
31:13 Yeah, that's why I'm going that way.
31:14 Cardinals stayed in it against the Texans.
31:15 I do think the Texans are a good team.
31:18 And Kyler.
31:19 They got Mark-- Kyler.
31:20 And Kyler played well last week.
31:21 He did.
31:22 He's been playing all right.
31:23 Gosh.
31:24 But I just don't-- oh, man.
31:25 It's tough on Mondays.
31:26 I know.
31:27 Inside all these games.
31:28 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:29 But Kyler played well two weeks ago.
31:30 Two weeks ago.
31:31 Yeah, two weeks ago.
31:32 So my brain is like, what did-- two weeks ago, he played, and then they lost.
31:33 Oh, yeah, you're right.
31:34 Yeah.
31:35 Yeah.
31:36 Again, I forget that there were games played yesterday.
31:37 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:38 OK.
31:39 Are you going Rams?
31:40 Yeah, Rams.
31:41 The Rams are-- the question now is who's going to get that win?
31:42 Who's going to get that win?
31:43 I'm going to go Rams.
31:44 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:51 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:52 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:53 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:54 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:55 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:56 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:57 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:58 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
31:59 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:00 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:01 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:02 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:03 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:04 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:05 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:06 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:07 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:08 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:09 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:32 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:39 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:40 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:41 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:42 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:43 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:44 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:45 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:46 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:47 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:48 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:49 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:50 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:51 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:52 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:53 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:54 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:55 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
32:56 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:03 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:04 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:05 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:06 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:07 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:08 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:09 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:10 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:11 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:12 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:13 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:14 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:15 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:16 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:17 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:18 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:19 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:20 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:21 I'm going to go Rams with you guys.
33:44 Let's finish out with Monday Night Football, Dan.
33:45 Your Bears at the Vikings.
33:47 The Vikings favored by three and a half.
33:49 Yeah.
33:50 I don't know why the Bears are on Monday Night Football again.
33:52 Get us off.
33:54 Why they keep doing this.
33:55 Y'all did alright.
33:56 Y'all did alright against the Lions.
33:57 Man, Justin Fields is, he back.
33:59 Yeah, no, he played well against the Lions.
34:01 Matt Eberflues, I don't think he's ever won a division game.
34:05 Really?
34:07 Yeah.
34:08 Really?
34:09 I don't think so.
34:10 It's actually impressive, right?
34:12 It's a good note for gamblers.
34:14 It's a hard thing to do.
34:16 I'm going through it.
34:17 I don't think last year, did we win a game last year against someone in the division?
34:21 I don't think so.
34:22 I don't think he's ever won a division game.
34:24 Are you hoping?
34:25 Like, are you wanting to pick them but also hoping they lose so you continue to have?
34:29 I'm kind of fucked because, and PFT pointed this out and he was correct.
34:35 We lost to the Lions and I basically was like, I hopped back on my horse and was like,
34:39 "Justin Fields looked good.
34:40 Defense looked good.
34:41 Actually good that they lost."
34:43 And he's like, "This is exactly what you were saying last year."
34:45 And so I think I might just be stuck in a perpetual tanking cycle that I can't get out of.
34:51 Where you're finding the positives.
34:53 You suck in September so bad that you immediately just go to, "All right, draft picks."
34:57 You know?
34:58 Yeah.
34:59 Like, can we win a game once?
35:00 I don't know.
35:01 Maybe we get a little taste of some positive barefoot.
35:04 But that's what they've been doing.
35:05 They've been leading all these games.
35:08 They're in these games and they just suck at the end.
35:11 But you're going to take them.
35:12 Yeah, I'm going to take the Bears.
35:13 Three and a half.
35:14 I don't know if I will.
35:15 Vikings bounce back.
35:16 Vikings bounce back.
35:17 Tough loss.
35:19 Yeah.
35:20 Tough loss against Denver.
35:21 And I was excited about the two and a half and not only did I start falling for that,
35:27 but I took Vikings' money line.
35:29 And so that touchdown at the end truly bothered me.
35:33 But I like Dobbs bouncing back.
35:35 Like, he didn't do well with the pressure that the Broncos were giving them.
35:39 Broncos, by the way, like they're playing some good football or better football now.
35:42 Better football, yeah.
35:44 But give me the Vikings.
35:45 Delaney?
35:46 I got to go with the Vikings.
35:47 Josh Dobbs is just killing it, man.
35:51 He's out there showing everybody he should be on the team.
35:53 He should be starting.
35:54 He should have an opportunity.
35:55 And if they don't see that, God damn.
35:58 He plays with good poise, too.
35:59 Like, even when he was getting pressured and smacked around a little bit,
36:02 although toward the end of the game, the way he was handling pressure,
36:05 like he was really kind of getting off.
36:07 He was trying to make plays, though.
36:08 He was getting off of his spot after his first read, kind of like, you know what?
36:10 They are kind of beating me up back there.
36:12 Well, he was trying to make plays.
36:13 I mean, I saw he was like, I got to get this done.
36:15 You know, you're on that hype and you're just feeling like the team is leaning on you.
36:19 He was trying to get out the pocket to make plays, which, you know,
36:22 if he sat in there he would have saw them crossing routes.
36:24 But, again, I just still think he's playing phenomenal right now.
36:28 And I think all the different looks that Flores gives,
36:30 like all those guys on the line of scrimmage, I think it causes problems for him.
36:34 He definitely deserves respect. There's no doubt.
36:35 No, he definitely does.
36:36 Okay, three bad opinions, Dan.
36:38 What is your Thanksgiving week bad opinion?
36:41 My bad opinion, this might not be a bad opinion.
36:44 I'm going to reverse on something we talked about earlier with the Eagles and the Bills.
36:48 I think the Bills are going to beat the Eagles.
36:50 I think the Bills are going to get to the playoffs.
36:51 I think the Bills have everything in front of them right now.
36:54 They play the Eagles.
36:55 I think they have to play the Chiefs.
36:58 They might even have the Cowboys on there.
37:00 They have a gauntlet of a schedule.
37:02 But when they go and start winning some of these games,
37:04 people are going to be like, "Watch out for the Bills."
37:06 We buried them. I think they're coming back to life.
37:09 But it starts this week against the Eagles.
37:11 It has to beat the Eagles. It has to beat the Eagles.
37:13 Because they can't lose any more games.
37:15 They're 6-5.
37:17 You'd have to think that, at most, they could maybe lose two more games down the stretch.
37:22 10-7 might get you in the playoffs.
37:25 Yeah.
37:26 Good opinion, bad opinion?
37:27 Okay. All right.
37:28 I think it's a bad opinion.
37:29 I think it's right on the wheelhouse. Not at the moment.
37:31 Not at the moment.
37:32 But if you keep talking, he'll probably--
37:34 Delaney, you have a bad opinion?
37:36 Delaney, you have a bad opinion?
37:37 --how bad his opinion was before the show started.
37:38 What opinion? What opinion was that?
37:40 You have a bad opinion?
37:41 You have just thought that's bad?
37:42 Like when you were like, "I'm good at basketball," and then--
37:45 Ah. That was a great one.
37:47 No, but talk about the NFL.
37:48 I would say--I don't know if this is a bad opinion,
37:50 but I see the Eagles playing the Baltimore Ravens in the Super Bowl.
37:54 Oh. Okay.
37:55 A yearly opinion.
37:57 Yearly?
37:58 A year-end opinion.
37:59 A year-end?
38:00 I don't hate that one.
38:01 Yeah, but he threw one out there.
38:02 I don't hate that one.
38:03 Very true.
38:04 Okay, then we're just saying stuff now.
38:05 Houston Texans are going to the Super Bowl.
38:07 What's Hill's first name for the Saints, the quarterback?
38:10 Taysom Hill.
38:11 Taysom.
38:12 I think he should be a starting quarterback.
38:14 I like that.
38:15 That's not a bad opinion. That's a good opinion.
38:17 Yeah, it's a good opinion.
38:18 That's a good opinion.
38:19 That's a solid opinion.
38:20 All right.
38:21 For the Titans?
38:22 That's a good opinion.
38:23 No, for the Titans?
38:24 For who?
38:25 For the Titans.
38:26 You want Taysom Hill on the Titans?
38:27 Yeah.
38:28 That's a bad opinion.
38:29 [Laughter]
38:30 You think he should start for the Saints?
38:32 Huh?
38:33 Real question, you don't think he should start?
38:34 I just think give him an opportunity.
38:35 No, no, that's a bad opinion.
38:36 I like Will.
38:37 I like Will.
38:38 I think everything Will is doing is great,
38:40 but give him some competition right now.
38:42 Taysom Hill?
38:43 Yeah, you don't think so?
38:45 This man can do everything.
38:47 Imagine giving him the opportunity just to play quarterback,
38:50 how good he could be.
38:52 This is like the Titans would be playing franchise on,
38:55 like, the most difficult mode.
38:57 They already proved it once with Ryan Tano,
38:59 who was a wide receiver in college.
39:01 Like, now you're going to have Taysom Hill be your starting quarterback?
39:03 You just be like, maybe go find a quarterback.
39:05 Will Levis might be the guy.
39:07 He can be the guy.
39:08 I think he could be, but we need some competition behind him.
39:11 And Taysom Hill's the guy.
39:13 I believe it.
39:15 It is the bad opinion segment.
39:18 It is the bad opinion.
39:19 Did you come up with one?
39:20 Yeah, I came up with one.
39:21 Okay.
39:23 Raiders beat the Chiefs for the first time since 2012.
39:25 Oh, let's go.
39:27 Why are you going to do that?
39:28 We just all picked the Raiders.
39:30 I know.
39:32 Yeah, but hang on.
39:33 We got nine and a half points.
39:34 Lucas, make sure this is part of the draft.
39:36 Remember, we got nine and a half points.
39:38 Yeah.
39:39 There was such high vibes in the locker room,
39:41 and then you had to drop that?
39:43 I'm saying they win with the bad opinion.
39:45 I'm saying they win for the first time since--
39:47 But in the segment, it's just plus nine and a half.
39:49 Yeah, yeah, segment.
39:50 Don't-- yeah, don't-- we can't let BC back me into the corner on this one.
39:53 He's really good at doing that.
39:54 It's Raiders.
39:55 But he's with you on this one, so he won't.
39:56 Yeah, Raiders plus nine and a half, but I'm just saying for the bad opinion,
39:59 they win.
40:00 Okay.
40:02 You got Jerry's thumbs up.
40:04 Okay, the Survivor pool picks.
40:05 Jerry, it's still you and Dan.
40:07 You guys are still going, and I believe that this was the segment
40:10 whenever you gave him a hard time about the Giants, so good thing he--
40:13 Look--
40:14 He didn't go with you.
40:15 Yeah, he's been on it.
40:16 I'm sorry for even trying to get your head, Jerry.
40:18 But Jerry, whenever Will gave you the $100 in the last episode
40:22 that you tried to hand it over to Dan, you're just--
40:24 anything you get, you just hand to him at this point?
40:26 Yeah, it's got to be, yeah, at this point.
40:27 We missed out on the Javante Williams.
40:28 That was tough.
40:29 Yeah, that was tough.
40:30 That--
40:31 It's exciting to watch.
40:32 Oh, God.
40:33 So, Jerry, would you like to go first, or you want Dan to go first?
40:35 I'll give the honors to Dan.
40:36 No, we got-- no, you go ahead, Jerry.
40:38 I'll give the honors to Dan.
40:39 We got a good streak going.
40:41 Well, I was-- we've been alternating, so this is your week.
40:43 All right, fine.
40:44 I'll go-- so I'll go back in time.
40:47 So, if we get to this point and I'm wrong,
40:50 everyone can laugh at me and say I'm an idiot.
40:52 But I will take the Cowboys.
40:54 Okay.
40:55 Thanksgiving Day.
40:56 Oh, we're taking-- we could do Thanksgiving Day?
40:57 You can do whatever you want.
40:58 Yeah, because by the time this airs--
41:00 But you can't take the Cowboys because you already took the Cowboys.
41:02 Correct.
41:03 And you can't take the Dolphins because you already took the Dolphins.
41:05 But you can take-- you can take Thursday or Friday's game.
41:08 But you can take the Lions.
41:09 You can take the Jets.
41:10 You want to take the Jets?
41:12 You can take the Lions, Jerry.
41:16 You won't take the Steelers.
41:21 You won't take the Steelers.
41:23 You just-- you can't take the Giants, the Broncos, the Ravens, the Texans,
41:26 the Cowboys, or the Dolphins.
41:29 Damn.
41:30 Whoa.
41:31 [laughter]
41:33 Okay.
41:34 I'm just reading off--
41:35 You can't take the Lions?
41:36 Arcana.
41:37 No, he can take the Lions.
41:38 He can take the Lions.
41:39 Yeah.
41:40 I'll take the Chargers.
41:41 Ha!
41:42 Oh!
41:43 Ha-ha!
41:44 Okay.
41:45 Winner!
41:46 You can take the Chargers.
41:47 So you're just adding to the loan that Dan gave you already?
41:49 Yep.
41:51 I think this is his perfect spot.
41:53 Okay.
41:54 Oh, yeah.
41:55 He said that.
41:56 I have to--
41:57 Who's home in that game?
41:58 Chargers, right?
41:59 Yeah.
42:00 I have to stop--
42:01 Yeah, but--
42:02 I have to stop doubting you on these because then the clips look bad for me.
42:03 So good pick.
42:04 [laughter]
42:05 And they play Baltimore, correct?
42:06 Uh-huh.
42:07 Yeah.
42:08 That was the Lucas edits.
42:09 Good pick, Jer.
42:10 I don't think so.
42:11 You guys all took the Ravens.
42:12 You took the Chargers.
42:13 I'm taking chances because I want to get some of the teams that--
42:16 maybe I'm looking too far ahead.
42:18 I want to win.
42:19 I might be looking too far ahead.
42:21 You might be.
42:22 I'll give you three seconds to change it.
42:24 Three, two, one.
42:26 Steelers.
42:27 No, don't do this!
42:28 Steelers.
42:29 Don't do that!
42:30 Steelers.
42:31 Steelers.
42:32 Blocked in.
42:33 Okay, Steelers.
42:34 Damn.
42:35 You guys just bullied him into that.
42:37 Bullied him in.
42:38 He might win, though.
42:39 I mean, he's--
42:40 I mean, he's been right since we were in the game.
42:42 He's been right since we reset.
42:44 What was the double week?
42:45 Yeah, when he went Giants and Denver.
42:47 Right.
42:48 I know.
42:49 And then last week you guys made fun of him, and here we are.
42:52 Okay, anything else, guys?
42:54 Happy Thanksgiving again.
42:55 Happy Thanksgiving.
42:57 Thank you, Delaney, for being here.
42:59 As always.
43:00 Sorry about the yak and just everything.
43:02 14 years in the NFL, kind of out the window.
43:05 You didn't know you were going to be coming to Chicago today to shoot 19th.
43:08 I didn't think I was doing no activities in that field.
43:12 So, yeah, no stretching.
43:14 You can blame Will for that.
43:16 Yeah, Will didn't tell me nothing.
43:18 He's like, "Yo, we got to get on this show."
43:19 I'm like, "Wait, what show?"
43:20 He's like, "Let me tell you a little bit."
43:23 A little bit different than this.
43:24 All right, thanks, everybody.
43:25 We will see you next week.
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