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00:00 All right, today is Thursday, it is November 30th.
00:02 Welcome to the Dog Walk presented by Barstool Sports.
00:04 Here we are.
00:05 This is the Caleb episode that I'm going to get into in a little bit here.
00:09 You will note that I do say a different date on there.
00:12 I do frame it as a draft because we thought we were doing a draft with Caleb,
00:17 but it turned out we want to do an interview and talk to him about his life more.
00:21 So that's what we get into.
00:22 No draft is a typical Thursday episode for those of you that always tune in on Thursdays.
00:27 And yeah, we can hop into it. Before we do though, I want to talk about our friends at Portillo's
00:32 because Portillo's always sounds good.
00:34 You guys know the drill by now.
00:35 You guys know the name, but what should he get?
00:39 Especially these new cities that are getting Portillo's expanding into them.
00:43 Let me introduce you to a couple of the main food groups in Chicago.
00:47 Obviously, you guys know the Chicago hot dog, but you guys should know about the Italian beef.
00:51 The Italian beef is a thinly sliced beef that originated here in Chicago and is one of our own.
00:57 That's a delicious sandwich that you put these peppers on that we call giardiniera.
01:02 Now listen, probably going to be more of a national episode.
01:04 So that's why I'm going so in depth here because we're talking to Caleb.
01:07 Caleb touches all places around.
01:09 So I would recommend you try both these out if you go check out a Portillo's in your area.
01:14 And if you want another good thing, look at the big beef combo.
01:18 It's a good parlay, tossing a dog, side of onion rings.
01:20 Hey, you earned it.
01:21 And then they got the chocolate cake shake that is delicious as well.
01:25 So dip into the Portillo's game.
01:27 You can visit your local Portillo's or go to portillos.com to order your Chicago dog for pickup or delivery.
01:32 Portillo's, it always sounds good.
01:34 Legitimately a Chicago staple, Chicago classic.
01:37 If they're coming towards you, I'm excited for you because Portillo's is legitimately awesome.
01:42 So go try out Portillo's.
01:44 And obviously, for my Chicagoans, you guys know the drill.
01:46 Keep hammering Portillo's and keep getting after it.
01:50 All right, then.
01:51 We could just kick it into the episode.
01:53 Here's our interview with Caleb Presley.
01:55 Snake draft Monday.
01:56 We are joined in studio by Caleb Presley.
01:58 Caleb, first time.
01:59 So cool.
02:00 We've been I've been trying to get you for a while.
02:03 Yeah, but I've been saying no.
02:05 You've been saying no.
02:06 You've been saying no, but you always followed up.
02:08 You're a voice memo guy, which I which I love.
02:11 This is a tough move to pull off.
02:13 Yeah, I know.
02:14 But he's just voice memo.
02:15 I think so.
02:15 I feel a little awkward when I do.
02:17 Why? I don't know.
02:18 I've never done one because I couldn't pull it off.
02:20 I think it might be a cool guy.
02:22 It's 100 percent.
02:23 If you if you send a voice or voice memo, you're an automatic douchebag.
02:27 But you're not if you're like you.
02:30 Well, you're just a cool guy.
02:31 Tell you who's the last voice memo I got.
02:33 What was that? Nate.
02:35 So kind of voice.
02:37 Memos are good if you're like explaining something that's nuanced.
02:41 Like the reason why I haven't done the show was nuanced.
02:43 Yes, correct.
02:44 So he wasn't saying no, he was just busy and there were things there.
02:47 Obstacles.
02:47 So I live in Nashville for six months last year.
02:50 And when I was there, I told Will Compton the next barstool show
02:55 will be busted.
02:56 But then the dates have never lined up like I'd never done it.
02:59 OK, so it's been a year in the making, basically.
03:02 And we're actually recording this before I do busted.
03:05 But I told Will that.
03:07 Yeah. Are you guys going to hold it until afterwards?
03:09 Yeah, well, we'll hold it.
03:11 And it's going to be way different.
03:12 Like we might hold it over.
03:13 I mean, like a verbal contract with Will Compton.
03:14 Yeah. And Will's going to talk about different shit.
03:16 We're drafting nice gestures.
03:17 So it's going to be a totally different podcast.
03:19 Yeah. I do think that we should just say to Will today that, hey, like Caleb
03:23 sat down with us. You see?
03:25 Yeah. I see the reaction.
03:26 See what his reaction is.
03:27 We got it. That is funny. Yeah, we got him.
03:30 But thank you. You never done one of these.
03:33 It's pretty straightforward. Snake draft.
03:35 We were debating topics yesterday.
03:37 You seemed excited.
03:37 I gave you a couple of topics and nice gestures was your favorite. Yes.
03:41 The other funny one was
03:44 you just did the other one that was funny and excuses.
03:46 I liked excuses as well.
03:47 But I think nice just excuses is a good. Yeah, I like that.
03:50 Yeah, that's when we have to have you back.
03:51 Very. Yeah. Yeah.
03:53 It's nice. Part two.
03:54 But I didn't do any homework because we just thought of this.
03:56 Yes, it was a lot of debate.
03:58 I mean, it's been an insane week.
04:00 Yeah, it has been a very big week.
04:02 Eddie also does do this all the time. He does.
04:04 I can't come up with a topic.
04:05 Meanwhile, he's been preparing for like 48 hours.
04:07 Well, I mean, there's been like 130 drafts and like pretty much
04:11 almost every topic is from my brain.
04:13 So I'm scraping, I'm scraping the bottom of the brain.
04:15 The scalp, the scalpel is like coming up empty.
04:19 So we're doing nice gestures, like we said.
04:22 We here's what we do now. We do the order.
04:24 So Harry will put a number one through four behind his back.
04:28 What number do you think it is?
04:32 You can't read him.
04:40 He's unreadable. No, he is very unreadable.
04:45 His name's Harry. Three.
04:47 No, told you.
04:48 What a fucking douche.
04:50 Chief one.
04:53 No, Dave, two.
04:55 No, four. Yes.
04:58 How we have any idea of you telling the truth?
04:59 I don't think he is. That's the beauty of the show.
05:01 I got a camera over here.
05:02 I might start showing it to the camera.
05:04 So you guys see the mentalist guy, the guy who goes like all the guy
05:09 blows my brain, blows my brain.
05:11 Yes. Do you think he's doing
05:13 do you think he's cheating or do you think he's like somehow
05:16 some of the stuff looks like you can't fake it?
05:18 I know. I don't know, dude.
05:19 I just listen to David Blaine on Rogan and like the whole thing
05:23 with magicians just makes no sense to me.
05:25 But he's just different.
05:26 I've never seen like his is like literally reading your mind.
05:29 Yeah, it makes me uncomfortable. Magician. Yeah, he's not. Yes.
05:32 Yeah, I guess it's in the same bucket to me, but he is like a different level.
05:36 I've been trying to get him on Sunday conversation.
05:37 Oh, that would that's how I know if he was really doing it.
05:40 He'd flip it. You wouldn't be able to prepare for it.
05:43 That's true.
05:44 Yeah, he could just call like your parents, I guess, and be like, what's
05:48 I don't I think he's a minor.
05:50 He'd like he is, too.
05:51 He'd flip his ice cream from strawberry to chocolate.
05:53 But he would do it all.
05:56 Yeah, for sure.
05:57 I'm I'll take number one overall pick.
05:59 I'll take number one.
06:02 All right, Caleb.
06:03 Harry now has one through three behind his back.
06:05 What number do you think it is?
06:07 Three.
06:12 Now, chief to. Yes.
06:14 How about third?
06:17 I'm nervous about this one.
06:18 I want her to White Sox, Dave.
06:20 One. Yes.
06:22 Are you on the tour? The four slot?
06:25 I'll go for that might fuck me like very badly.
06:29 All right. So you're in the you're in the two sock.
06:31 You're after me. OK.
06:32 Do I need to get a paper to write down?
06:33 No, no, you'll be fine.
06:35 There's only four people.
06:36 We're we're. Yeah.
06:37 And is there a winner?
06:39 Yes. So we're not on the Internet.
06:40 Yes, we will. They will vote. People vote.
06:42 OK, I'm excited.
06:43 It's the day after.
06:44 And Ed usually, you know, stuffs the ballot box.
06:47 And do I get a congratulations for the biggest winning margin ever?
06:51 Oh, no, because this is never mind.
06:53 Keep going. But I did have the biggest winning margin ever.
06:56 I don't know about that.
06:56 I think I think it's probably true.
06:58 60 or something percent.
06:59 I was about to do a Trump joke, but I don't know if you guys know.
07:01 No, no, no. We love that.
07:02 No, we love Trump.
07:03 That's all you want.
07:04 All right.
07:05 No, do the Trump. Yeah.
07:06 Huh? We do.
07:07 No, I'm lying.
07:08 I didn't hold it because of you guys.
07:09 I held it because it wasn't fully developed.
07:10 I just had one in the back of my.
07:12 Well, you circle back to something about.
07:14 Even though you won by a lot, you still lost.
07:17 But I couldn't really figure it out.
07:18 You'll get there.
07:19 I want to hear that by the end of the show.
07:21 We blame a lot of the transgressions on the show.
07:23 That show on
07:24 libs. Really?
07:27 Yeah. You anti libs.
07:28 That's Dave.
07:29 It's not.
07:30 I'm a it's not.
07:32 You're a public moderate.
07:33 I'm an ass. Yeah.
07:34 Nice. Yeah, exactly.
07:36 He's red. I stand in the middle.
07:37 I'm for the people.
07:38 Yeah. Most, most importantly.
07:40 Yeah, sure.
07:41 Oh, I can't help said any guy.
07:43 So I think I'm in a good.
07:44 Why is he in it?
07:45 Why are you in it?
07:46 Wait, you're in it.
07:46 You got huge.
07:47 Yeah. Yeah.
07:48 Is it via I had a early career running with Eddie
07:52 when I didn't know you.
07:53 I don't know if you remember this
07:54 where I didn't know what I was doing, just like everyone else gets hired
07:57 at Barstool.
07:58 Dave doesn't tell you what to do.
07:59 First, I should go work. Yeah, go.
08:01 I think he forgot I worked there.
08:02 He's like, what do you do?
08:03 Then he kicks me up one day after six months.
08:05 Like, what are you even doing?
08:06 I was like, I don't know what I'm doing.
08:08 And so I was like, I guess I'll start writing.
08:09 I don't know. I don't want to write blogs.
08:11 I never want to write blogs.
08:12 He's like, you've got to write if you're not doing videos.
08:15 So I can't remember what it was.
08:16 It was like a fake.
08:18 I don't even remember what it was, but it was like a fake letter.
08:21 I vaguely remember this, too.
08:23 And I made it from Barstool, Eddie, not knowing he existed.
08:27 Well, the funny part about that was is
08:31 I used to cut your clips for the Kayla Presley show.
08:33 Do you remember that?
08:35 Obviously not. I mean, you put me on that.
08:37 Dude, I wish I would have kept the Kayla Presley show.
08:39 Dude, I still that was a perfect time to get into podcasting.
08:41 Totally. Yeah, it would have.
08:43 I mean, it might not have been good, but I mean, it would have been.
08:45 I remember cutting clips.
08:47 Feli, the kid. Remember Feli, the kid?
08:49 Yeah. Yeah. I would.
08:50 I was like part of my thing to like try to get hired in like 2015.
08:54 I was just scramming.
08:55 I thought you were hired before I was.
08:57 I was not full time.
08:58 I was just an intern, unpaid intern. Yeah.
09:00 So I was trying to do shit.
09:01 So I was cutting. You were like Big Cat's guy.
09:03 Yeah. I was cutting clips for you.
09:05 I was cutting clips for KFC.
09:06 So because Big Cat called me, he's like, Hey, dude, what was that all about?
09:09 That blog?
09:10 He's like, That's my guy.
09:12 That's my friend. I was like, That's a fictional character.
09:14 Wait, what are you saying?
09:16 Well, maybe even remember, dude.
09:18 No, no, no. So that was before I cut your clips.
09:20 So you definitely knew me after.
09:21 Yeah, but at the time I did not.
09:23 Yes, at the time, because that's right when you took the job.
09:25 Yeah, I think I forget the order.
09:28 But yes, I used to.
09:29 I would like to.
09:29 Well, what did the I can't remember.
09:31 It was like, was he like trashing on Eddie or something?
09:34 No, no, no.
09:35 It was like, am I?
09:35 It was like a letter from Barstool and like, I don't even I remember Charlie.
09:39 Yeah. Type in Kayla Presley,
09:42 Bars Barstow, Eddie.
09:44 And he's like, he's like, what?
09:46 Probably was like, What was that about?
09:47 And I was like, Dude, I have no idea.
09:49 It seemed like Kayla just called me out for no reason.
09:51 And there there was no issue.
09:54 I think it stinks, though.
09:55 So like, let's just look at it privately.
09:57 This might be so long ago that.
09:59 Yeah, it's gotten lost in the.
10:03 It might have been before DevNest.
10:05 Oh, yeah, maybe.
10:06 Yeah, it might have been scraped.
10:08 I hope so.
10:08 I don't know. It's gone.
10:10 All right.
10:10 I was talking to somebody.
10:12 The one thing I want to see unscraped is.
10:14 That's not it.
10:15 I did our natty tour videos.
10:18 I don't know where they're at.
10:20 And we did the Dixie tour with those videos.
10:23 But then we did the natty tour the next year, which was.
10:26 I made the videos by myself, like I shot and edited the videos by myself.
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11:35 All right. We could hop back into the interview.
11:37 Yeah. Yeah.
11:38 Hasm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
11:40 He's the best fuck.
11:41 I wish I could remember more about the context of that blog.
11:43 It was basically like, will he or won't he take the job at Barstool Sports?
11:47 And it's like, like it was like kind of like a memoir.
11:50 I got a crossroads.
11:51 Like, what do I do?
11:52 Like, what are you going to do?
11:53 Barstool. Did you?
11:55 What was their overlap between the Presley show and Sunday conversation?
11:59 No, no, no.
12:01 So there's so far so launched.
12:03 Obviously, KFC radio was around and then there was the the push with five shows.
12:08 It was the day porn or show PMT, the cat temp show, my show.
12:13 And then mail time, I assume.
12:16 There is exactly there was like one new new one.
12:18 Anyways. Yeah, I never last.
12:21 I never when I start something, I never, never last.
12:25 I've done like four podcasts.
12:27 Yeah. You just like to pick up the projects.
12:29 Yeah. Like I'm done with that.
12:30 And you were you were an original yak guy, too, weren't you?
12:32 No, but I got into it after the original was like Karabas.
12:36 Karabas, Big Cat and Rome.
12:40 OK. Yes. Yes.
12:41 And I got in after Karabas. Yes. OK.
12:43 Yes. I was original Barstool Radio.
12:45 Yes. Yeah. Yes.
12:47 I don't like talk like I'm not a talker.
12:49 I'm not like a gabber. Yeah.
12:51 So anything that's just like filling space like I don't. Yeah.
12:54 So like when you got to stick to something like this, you'll be fine.
12:56 But if it's just like feeling time for two hours.
12:59 Yeah. It's like throwing out random opinions.
13:01 And so I don't have that many opinions.
13:02 I'm like not an opinion person.
13:04 Glenn, he said that about yesterday and you got offended.
13:07 What? That is he doesn't like anything.
13:09 He is. That's not true.
13:11 I just don't I don't have like stuff.
13:13 Yeah. You don't like stuff.
13:14 I don't like also don't like this.
13:16 It sounds lib.
13:17 Excuse me. All right.
13:19 My watch. Hold this.
13:20 This sounds like a pussy.
13:21 And I maybe I am, but I really don't.
13:23 It makes me sound like a hero and a pussy.
13:24 But I don't like talking bad about people.
13:26 I don't know, because in college, I just remember on the football team,
13:31 like having your friends, like someone was like talking shit about him.
13:34 I'd be like, that guy's a fucking douchebag.
13:35 Like he doesn't he doesn't know what goes on.
13:38 He doesn't work hard.
13:39 And so getting out of that world and then being like going into the immediately
13:42 into like talking shit about athletes, I was like, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
13:46 But then most of what the the Barstow stuff at the time was like
13:48 talking about the games. Who did you like? Whatever.
13:50 And I said, maybe. I don't know. Yeah.
13:51 I mean, that even applies to this.
13:53 I was like, we should do weirdos.
13:55 And you're like, I don't know, man.
13:56 It just and also you end up meeting all these people like you talk.
13:59 You do. Especially you. Yeah, I don't.
14:01 I'll talk to anybody.
14:03 Yeah. Yeah. You just don't want to use a shit talk.
14:06 Sister Jean. Now that's true.
14:08 Now, I can't believe I didn't interview her last night.
14:10 Yeah. I mean, he did a couple of days ago or a week ago.
14:13 Yeah. You didn't see it. It was all over his smash hit.
14:15 I didn't. I didn't see it.
14:17 It was like Sunday conversation.
14:19 I deleted all my social media is off my phone because I was addicted
14:22 doing too much. No, too much. I like that.
14:24 I feel like I might have the best like outlook on this job of anybody I've met.
14:28 Well, because I don't I'm not in the fray or not in the crosshairs
14:32 of being around.
14:33 Yeah, that's the fray. You missed the crosshairs.
14:35 I told PFT last night.
14:36 I was like, dude, I feel this is the first time.
14:39 I don't know when it's going to come out.
14:40 But last night was the Barstow invitation.
14:42 Yeah. This was the first time that I went to a Barstow event
14:45 felt like outsider, like not outsider.
14:48 But I didn't feel like I was I was seeing people like, oh, I haven't seen you
14:51 like a year. Yeah, I know. Well, like spider.
14:53 I was like, I haven't seen you like a long ass time.
14:55 Brandon Walker.
14:56 So I kind of feel like I need to be more in the mix.
14:58 But yeah, then PFT was like, well, there's a lot of drama happening right now.
15:01 I was like, I actually don't miss. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
15:03 No, no, no. Because what you don't understand, what people don't get is like
15:06 when you're this is what made me realize it was traveling all the time
15:09 because I'd be in the office and I'd be like, all right,
15:11 this is like really important or what's happening.
15:13 You get caught up in like the drama or whatever.
15:15 They're talking about the office.
15:16 And then when you're on the road, you realize the only thing that you see
15:19 are what goes up on. So.
15:21 So if it's a good clip or it's a good video, that's the only thing you really see.
15:23 The most I feel like most people, unless you're like heavily on the blog.
15:27 Like if you're on. Yeah, yeah.
15:30 But if you're just a bar, so casual bar, so fan, you really only see what
15:32 Barstow posts and you might not even see every post, only the good ones
15:35 because the algorithm will. Yeah, yeah. Filter it for sure.
15:38 So it's like, oh, it's impossible to see everything about.
15:40 It's not it doesn't even matter. Yeah.
15:42 I was like, I'm just wasting my time, like thinking about this shit.
15:44 Are you a guy on your phone?
15:46 Do not disturb guy. No, no.
15:49 I've recently became one.
15:51 I think I am. You you get zero notification.
15:54 So you've got to actively look like. Yeah, I am.
15:56 It is the best thing on earth. It's the best. Yeah, it's the best. Yeah.
15:59 I deleted socials, but then I just redownload them whenever I need them.
16:04 Yeah. Yeah. So you really didn't delete them?
16:06 Oh, I delete them and redownload them. Yeah.
16:09 It's a cycle, but that gets annoying.
16:11 So you probably go on less.
16:12 Are you still way less like my screen time was like
16:15 I was like over like three hours a day or something.
16:17 Now it's down to like 20 minutes.
16:19 Oh, mine's got to be like eight hours a day.
16:22 But now I'm on the road.
16:23 I've been on the road for like the last seven days and I have it.
16:25 I'm heavily online. Yeah. What do you what do you do?
16:27 Read with my free time. Yeah.
16:30 No, I mean, I do read, but not. Yeah.
16:32 I don't know what it look at my phone. Look what time it is.
16:34 I'm still addicted to it. So I still like, oh, nice. Yeah.
16:38 Yeah. Look at your alarm clock. See what you see.
16:40 What you got going to go on the go on the Safari version of Instagram.
16:44 Yeah. And a buddy always brags like I deleted Facebook off my phone
16:48 and then I'd see him on the browser like, dude, that's a.
16:51 Same. Does that count?
16:52 Yeah, totally. It's crazy. Yeah.
16:54 Sorry. Derail that. No, no, I enjoy it.
16:57 We don't see much, like I said.
16:58 And we honestly, we never shared an office or anything.
17:00 Yeah. Don't know. We never even. Yeah.
17:03 Because we got hired in 19.
17:04 We're always here.
17:05 And then it was covid.
17:06 So we stopped going to New York and then you were
17:09 a mega hit. So after covid, yeah. Yeah.
17:12 Yeah. Well, shout out to you, man.
17:14 Yeah. Very successful.
17:15 And you've cracked the code because you do your own thing.
17:17 And that's and it's probably the only thing that I really watch consistently.
17:21 I appreciate it. Yeah, it's the all pizza reviews.
17:25 I would say I watch most of them.
17:27 But yeah, myself as well. Yeah.
17:29 It's the only thing I watch like every week.
17:31 We put a lot of work into it.
17:32 And Tom Mullins is at my editor and he puts a lot of work into it.
17:37 You got you guys.
17:38 And it's a lot of times it's people that I don't necessarily know who they are.
17:41 Right. You know, but it's still like, I don't care.
17:42 I'm just going to watch. It's going to be funny.
17:44 So usually, yeah, usually we can you like take us through like the book?
17:48 Like how do you get you had fucking
17:52 like all these a list after a list after a list like it's different.
17:57 Most people want to go on a show.
17:58 You guys know is to promote something. Yeah.
18:00 So a lot of times it's like they have a book and no Kelly.
18:03 Our booker will send out the list and it's like you respond to that. Yeah.
18:07 Sometimes a social media, they'll hit me up.
18:08 Sometimes I'll hit them up or sometimes a bit mutual friend or it just it's
18:12 always kind of different. Yeah. Well, that's a good thing.
18:14 The show is so big.
18:15 You're definitely on the top upper echelon of where Barstow would give you guests
18:19 like that. You know, like it's like you PMT and like BFFs. Yeah.
18:22 And it's harder to get like the big, big celebrities.
18:25 Usually you had to book them like a long time out. Yeah.
18:29 Like, you know about it for a long time.
18:32 Do you have like a white whale one?
18:33 Beetlejuice is my white whale right now.
18:35 What'd they say? He's like, I'll get back to you.
18:37 I guess I don't know how much information, but like I guess he lives.
18:40 He lives in Georgia and he's still alive, doing well, but he hasn't done any.
18:44 Yeah. He does like starring like once in a while.
18:46 Now I feel he's he has some health problems. Yeah.
18:49 Yeah. He's the best, though.
18:51 He's the funniest. He's my white whale for sure.
18:53 That would be also Winston James Winston. OK.
18:55 He's pretty much up there.
18:59 That'd be goofy.
19:01 Just don't say no. He's focusing on his football career.
19:03 It's like, do we know your foot?
19:05 We also have Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers.
19:07 And yeah, come on.
19:08 How genius it would be.
19:10 How long does an interview take?
19:11 I know they're like five minute clips, but how long you like 15 to 20?
19:15 OK. Usually.
19:16 Mm hmm. How much writing do you do beforehand?
19:18 And then how much of it is like off the cuff?
19:21 It's like it ends up I do a lot of writing beforehand,
19:23 but it ends up being like 50 50 what we use because I can't control.
19:25 Yeah. What the response is. Yeah.
19:27 Can't control the response.
19:28 But there's always like a few like questions that doesn't even matter
19:30 what they say.
19:31 Those are like written like a question that like the response does not even matter.
19:35 Yeah, because there was a joke in the question and that's probably written.
19:38 Yeah. But it ends up being like 50 50.
19:39 Interesting. OK.
19:40 I just noticed the more prepared you are, it just goes better.
19:42 Yeah. Even if you don't use this stuff, like even if you don't even use
19:45 what you prepared, like you just go into it with a better mind state.
19:48 You always know you can fall back on something.
19:50 Yeah. Yeah.
19:51 We work on it a lot.
19:52 Like Sunday conversation takes a lot of time.
19:54 I believe it. Yeah.
19:55 And the most time is actually not well work on the show,
19:57 but it's traveling because we travel to the game.
19:59 Yeah. Now that people know, like the editing process,
20:01 how involved you are, you're very involved in that whole process.
20:04 Right. I'm in. Yeah, I'm involved.
20:05 But I mean, Tom, I think. Yeah, yeah, totally.
20:07 He does all the bells and whistles.
20:09 But you you give notes and shit, right? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.
20:12 It's important. And because I think I have to be involved, I would love to not be
20:16 because I don't like editing.
20:18 And also it's a it's a time suck.
20:21 And I could be like doing new things without it.
20:23 But for I feel like it loses
20:26 my sense of humor, like the edit is so important.
20:30 It's like almost half of the jokes are kind of in the edit. Yeah.
20:32 But it's like you're still making jokes, editing like you can be like creative
20:36 editor and like make jokes with totally quick advisors.
20:39 And even Tom, we worked together for forever.
20:42 He can't even I mean, he gets he's very close now because we work so.
20:45 But he can't like really do my humor because it's your it's my. Yeah.
20:49 Right. Yeah, for sure.
20:51 Man, I don't even want to do a draft.
20:52 I feel like we got to I feel like we got to run the draft. Yeah.
20:54 I'll run the job. Yeah. Do you want to run the job?
20:56 I don't think we should.
20:58 I got a flight at six.
21:00 We got dodgeball at one thirty.
21:02 Yeah, I don't know.
21:03 I think we should just keep riffing.
21:05 It's how often do people get a glimpse behind the brain of Caleb Presley,
21:10 like the real brain, not the one who's fucking with all these people?
21:13 I mean, I think I don't know.
21:16 I mean, I don't I don't like to gab like so I don't go.
21:19 Yeah, right. Right.
21:20 You you were saying that it's just I don't know.
21:24 It came out or not.
21:24 What was the first one that like exploded?
21:26 It was Michael Irvin, right?
21:27 You know, I know it was.
21:29 You know what?
21:29 The actually the success of the show could be really attributed to is our second
21:34 because usually you have to build up over a long time.
21:36 You work your way up, work your way up.
21:38 Our second guest ever was Deon Sanders.
21:40 OK, because he worked at Barstool at the time.
21:43 And so like he agreed to do it.
21:45 And so then once we had that, we could go out to people and be like,
21:47 look at this.
21:49 Our previous guest was Deon Sanders. Yeah.
21:50 So that just gave a legitimacy like right off the bat.
21:52 I don't think that was lucky
21:54 because usually you have to like go through like the mid process.
21:57 So like that, the one I'm thinking of, Terrell Owens from the Super Bowl,
22:00 that was that kind of like, hey, like that crushed.
22:02 Like I couldn't make a whole series out of doing interviews like that.
22:05 No, that was well, that was during.
22:10 When was that?
22:10 San Francisco, the Panther Super Bowl.
22:12 Dave and Dan were supposed to interview Terrell Owens.
22:16 And then they got that was when PIN was acquiring us.
22:19 They're having meetings. No churning. Yes. Yeah.
22:22 They have the meetings with churning.
22:23 And so they had to like dip.
22:25 They're like, we can't do this. Can you do it?
22:27 And I was like, disasterly hung over.
22:30 I was in the shower.
22:31 Shut up, Smitty.
22:32 Dave come to showers like, dude, you have to do this interview with Terrell Owens
22:35 like in five minutes.
22:37 I was like, all right. So my come out, my hair was I didn't comb my hair.
22:39 Yeah, fucking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that.
22:41 And big cow was just like, what do I ask him?
22:43 Because I asked him just about Butterfingers.
22:45 Yeah, because it was a Butterfinger sponsor.
22:48 Yeah, I remember that.
22:49 Do you have a suppose because people are definitely hitting you up
22:52 to come on the show now, right? Yeah.
22:54 Do you have like the most famous person who said no to?
22:56 I don't if someone asked to do it and they're like a fan, then you should do it.
23:03 You'll do it. OK. Yeah.
23:04 Because it's like that means that they're like kind of in on it, I think.
23:08 When people come up to you, which one do they bring up the most?
23:10 Rogers, Drake, so fucking stupid.
23:16 Yeah. Drake. Yeah. Yeah.
23:19 Well, Drake, hit you up, right?
23:22 Yeah. That's what kind of talks me.
23:26 How does that feeling like, oh, look, it's your hands on the.
23:30 Immediate nut. Yeah, it's got to be something like that.
23:35 I mean, Drake was like my favorite. Like I love Drake. Yeah.
23:37 And so that was to see his name in your.
23:40 Don McNabb was number one.
23:42 Yeah. See, so like this is so if you look, this is my first was Donovan McNabb.
23:46 The second was Deon Sanders and the third was Morgan Wallen.
23:49 Pretty good start.
23:50 So like we kind of got off the races fast and it made it easier to book.
23:54 The Walker Flocker one was funny.
23:56 Michael Irvin was was so funny to Michael Irvin was one of the funniest guys
24:00 of all time. Yeah.
24:01 There's a few of these I would like to run back for part two's.
24:03 The only part two we've done so far is walling, I think. OK.
24:06 Which which which one are you eyeing right now for a part two?
24:09 I want definitely will do Theo part two.
24:12 I would do Michael Irvin again.
24:18 How was a floor ever had like political figures reach out to you to do it?
24:22 Yeah, I don't I don't want to go down that road because it's
24:26 that was going to be so funny.
24:28 I would love to have. Yeah, I would love to have Trump.
24:31 I would love to have Biden. Can you imagine?
24:32 Oh, it'd be incredible.
24:34 But he's go down that road.
24:35 Just it just breaks people's like it just you're pissing off people.
24:38 They can't see past. You're just doing it for content.
24:40 Yeah. Why? It's serious.
24:42 Yeah, it's like it just breaks people's brain where they can't.
24:44 They can't just I would do this, though.
24:46 I would do one episode with both parties represented.
24:49 OK. And then a thing at the beginning, like, don't let this break your brain.
24:53 Yeah, we're having two people maybe asking the same questions.
24:56 Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we're joking. Yeah.
24:58 I would I think Tucker Carlson would be a funny guest.
25:00 But yeah, so like that's been Shapiro.
25:02 Yeah. Yeah.
25:03 There's a has bull has got to be.
25:05 Oh, yeah. One that comes up a lot. Right.
25:07 Oh, I'll tell you something.
25:08 That was the one that got me into it like big time, big time.
25:11 Well, there's only one unreleased episode.
25:14 Oh, do you know who it's with?
25:17 Because obviously I'm good friends with Glennie.
25:18 So we talk and he gives me like some inside scoop about some shit.
25:21 I know the one episode that we've shot and have not been allowed to.
25:25 I know the guest who blew you off. Dave Portnoy.
25:27 My close. I don't have no idea.
25:30 Pretty close.
25:31 Dan, big cat.
25:33 It was Dave. Yeah.
25:36 Yeah, I think I went too far too hard on some stuff.
25:38 It was when we were with Penn. So it was OK.
25:40 It was pretty I was pretty I was getting pretty graphic. Yeah.
25:43 Yeah, I was pretty much. Yeah.
25:45 Can you release it now?
25:46 Like basically business insider or something?
25:49 I was I was on his ass.
25:51 And I don't think he minded.
25:54 I think it was more of a like kind of like this is just a bad look
25:56 for everyone involved. Yeah.
25:58 Sean McVeigh was very uncomfortable. That was great. Yeah.
26:01 Kevin Gates. I don't know who Kevin Gates is really.
26:03 But that was the one I was like, killed over his was myself and laughter
26:07 because his his like team. Yeah.
26:09 A friend of the show.
26:10 And they were fucking with him and they told him like, hey,
26:14 this guy's a really serious because he didn't know what it was.
26:17 The first like he was meditating before we started, he was like crouched
26:20 over meditating, trying to get his money.
26:22 Does that make it harder when they know what it is?
26:26 Or is it easier to?
26:28 The only thing I hate is whenever they they like
26:30 don't act like themselves.
26:33 OK, which doesn't happen that often.
26:34 But that's the only thing that makes it hard
26:36 when they're trying to like be like funny or. Yeah.
26:40 Just be yourself.
26:41 So I remember like that old Colbert report.
26:44 He used to do like better know a district and he would interview
26:46 like all these congressmen from like all the Delaware seven. Yeah.
26:50 And like then they were great.
26:52 And then eventually, like it became such a hit that everyone knew about.
26:56 Yeah. So they tried to. Yeah.
26:57 It was funnier when they didn't know.
26:59 But like you're looking at these views.
27:02 And we've had this debate, like, are you the most famous person at the company now?
27:05 Someone a content, a content creator.
27:09 I'm not going to name it.
27:09 I don't know if you want it out there, but we had this debate a month ago.
27:12 They said they think that you're more famous than Dave.
27:15 It's preposterous, you think?
27:18 I think I think they reach different demographics and he does.
27:22 He he has BFSO. Yeah.
27:24 Yeah. And he's got he's got like the Fox.
27:27 And I think I think people forget about like Billy is.
27:29 Oh, yeah. Billy is like. Yeah.
27:33 The black Dave or you know, he's he's like he's in the black community,
27:37 the urban community, like he is fucking. Yeah.
27:39 That guy like he is the number one commentator on things.
27:41 He's been around for forever.
27:42 Yeah. He's like a famous rapper back in the day.
27:44 Oh, yeah. He's hilarious. Yeah.
27:46 No, that's a lot of people that work with us.
27:48 We forget about business. Huge. Yeah.
27:50 Big, huge, huge.
27:51 Brianna's Brianna's. Yeah.
27:53 Yeah. I guess I have certain like blind spots, like I know.
27:56 I know Brianna's huge, but like I never like the algorithm doesn't give me any.
28:00 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
28:03 No, I mean, that because that was their argument
28:06 was that you tap into a different.
28:08 Yeah. Well, the good thing about this show is that it clips really well.
28:11 Like you can clip it really well. Yeah. Easily.
28:14 I mean, this works 15 second clips, which is kind of the name of the game.
28:18 I was talking to Theo about this.
28:20 He was like he attributes a lot of his success recently to just like.
28:24 Yes. He's been doing his podcast where he just talks like to himself.
28:28 Basically, he's been doing one show.
28:30 Yeah. Now he has guests almost every week, but he was like a one man show for forever.
28:34 And then people would just not even him, but like people just started
28:37 going back through those episodes and clipping like the crazy stuff he was saying.
28:40 And he started to go super viral on TikTok.
28:42 And he's like, it's changed my entire career, just getting clipped.
28:45 How did you get him friends with him?
28:48 Because it was at the show first.
28:49 Are we guys already friends before he did thinker back in the day?
28:52 It's my first name.
28:53 Mm hmm. OK. Thinker.
28:55 And he obviously he was Theo, but he wasn't what he is now.
28:58 He was he was blowing up at the time. OK. OK.
29:01 Yeah. He was already on Rogan.
29:03 He was already he already had a Netflix special.
29:04 He was already on Rogan.
29:05 But he was like just about to become pretty much.
29:07 No. Can we let's go through the Caleb Presley graveyard.
29:10 Thinker. Thinker.
29:13 Caleb Presley show.
29:14 I was in it.
29:15 Good. What's the musical thing you did?
29:17 Oh, tentacles or the ticklers, the ticklers.
29:22 I don't remember that.
29:23 I was my I thought that was.
29:25 No, I thought it was like, uh,
29:27 but then you do something with Francis or was that?
29:28 Oh, that was part of a young and happy, young, happy.
29:31 That's yeah. Happy was a music podcast.
29:33 It was a music podcast. Yeah.
29:35 OK. But then there was fuck.
29:37 I forgot what it was.
29:38 Something the musical it was called.
29:40 That was part of young and happy.
29:41 OK. Special special release edition.
29:44 I just thought of one, but oh, 51 strokes.
29:47 51 strokes. Mm hmm.
29:50 Thinker, 51 strokes, Caleb Presley show.
29:55 I think I did another.
29:57 No, that's three podcasts.
29:58 Are the young and happy 51 strokes.
29:59 Caleb Presley show.
30:00 They all don't think that any of them lasted.
30:02 And that just because you're like you just get bored or you're just like.
30:05 I just prefer I just honestly just prefer to do what I'm doing.
30:09 You're like a new shiny next shiny thing.
30:11 I like to go like new projects, like even like Sunday Conversation.
30:14 I'll continue to do it because it is.
30:16 It I enjoy I enjoy doing it and it's like, why would I stop?
30:20 But it's like I would like to do other stuff, too.
30:24 And I'm trying to I'm trying to do some other things.
30:27 But you want to give us a little tease?
30:29 Like what's something you would love to do that you just don't have time for?
30:32 You know, I would like to try to like like actually, I think one of the blessings
30:35 of our job that no one else has, it is the number one blessing
30:39 of working at Barstool is the total freedom you have to do every want.
30:44 Plus, you're maybe maybe the only salaried creatives.
30:49 That's probably true, because most people who make their living
30:54 doing creative stuff are not getting paid every two weeks.
30:58 So it puts a huge pressure on you to do like Sunday Conversation,
31:02 which is like making money.
31:03 So it's like I have to do this to make money.
31:06 Yeah, I don't have a choice.
31:07 And also your failures like you don't eat or whatever. Right.
31:10 Where us, we really could take advantage of like
31:13 doing some completely avant garde or something as I completely brand new.
31:17 And it could suck.
31:19 And then you still get paid. Yeah. Yeah.
31:21 That's that's pretty that's pretty like comforting as if you're trying to do.
31:25 Yeah, I wish I could take you have a safety net a little bit. Yeah.
31:28 Yeah. And I guess I guess there's different different rules
31:31 abide for different people like you.
31:32 I see Dave trust you to the fullest.
31:34 So you could kind of roll mostly with that.
31:36 You know, I think most people, if you had to, I don't think
31:38 if you have a good idea, you can do it. I don't.
31:41 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You could definitely do it.
31:44 Who are saying no or not, Dave?
31:45 People are saying no or people that don't even know what they're talking about.
31:47 Like, correct. Correct.
31:49 Clue and she's not going to be putting any input into
31:51 just looking at your YouTube, like your YouTube looks so clean,
31:55 like everything is there.
31:56 There's none of that short bullshit like whatever.
31:58 But now ours is like like sales.
32:01 And all you got to do this, you got to do this.
32:02 You need this. Yeah.
32:03 I wouldn't listen to anything sales says.
32:05 I really don't.
32:07 Yeah, I don't. I mean, obviously we have a couple
32:10 of couple of people who are great there, but I don't think I don't know.
32:13 I think that's I think with Dave getting back in charge,
32:17 I think that's kind of normalizing.
32:19 It got like very.
32:21 Corporate like corporate, like you had an idea
32:25 and then all of a sudden you're on an email, 12 people.
32:27 Yeah, it's like, well, and then the thing dies before it even starts.
32:30 We've I've tried to like that's what I really do like is that we have our team.
32:34 So it's like Tom Owens is a shooter, editor,
32:36 Glennie Balls, Kelsey Shavers, our producer.
32:39 We have like our guys that we use for other cameras, other
32:43 and like we have a pretty efficient like we don't talk to anybody else.
32:47 Yeah. Kelly Martin books.
32:49 And we don't really talk to anyone else, which I think is good
32:50 because there's no like middleman.
32:52 Yeah, you're like your own company within a company kind of where it's like
32:55 just your team were literally like it's that is really cool
32:58 is that you're kind of like an entrepreneur.
33:00 Yeah. With no risk.
33:02 Yeah. Yeah.
33:03 Like you like you're building a business, but you.
33:05 Yeah, definitely.
33:06 That's if you fail, you literally get paid the exact same.
33:08 The obvious downside is if something blows up and it's super successful,
33:13 you don't get paid anymore. Yeah.
33:15 But have you risk or take?
33:17 How does that ever happen here with obviously Sundays blown up?
33:20 What was it like?
33:21 Dave, like I think we need to talk again or.
33:23 I kind of blew my last contract negotiation.
33:25 I like to try to do it too early.
33:31 I was like I had like a year and a half left and I was like,
33:34 I think I should get and pay more.
33:36 And then the contract negotiation took a year and a half.
33:38 And then by that time, we had already settled on what it was going to be.
33:41 And then in that time, this blew up.
33:43 So I kind of I kind of fucked myself.
33:45 Does I mean, yeah, obviously, it's great, great place to work, like you said.
33:49 But does like going independent like deep?
33:52 Is there an itch like you kind of look at since Dave got the company back?
33:55 I don't think so.
33:57 I don't know why.
33:58 Like, why would I don't know what? Yeah.
34:00 Because you could always like structure your contract differently.
34:02 You could like like I don't know, like I don't have a rev share of anything,
34:06 but like that's something I could ask for.
34:08 Maybe I will. Maybe I won't.
34:09 But yeah, I don't know.
34:10 Like working at Barstool is.
34:11 Yes. So sudden conversation,
34:15 we would make more money on Sunday conversation.
34:17 Like just if it was just did it independent,
34:21 because I think it probably takes like, I don't know,
34:23 a couple of thousand dollars to shoot, travel, just traveling the crew.
34:27 And then you sell sponsor, whatever, and then you get the YouTube money.
34:31 You're like, oh, wait, we would make way more money.
34:33 But then you really think about it.
34:35 The resources of like winning balls is a full time salary employee.
34:38 I don't have to pay.
34:39 Yeah. Kelly Martin is a basically full time booking our show.
34:42 I don't have to pay.
34:43 Kelsey Shaver is full time producer that I don't have to pay.
34:45 It's like you start doing all the math and you're like
34:48 the infrastructure of Barstool is it's an asset.
34:51 It's a huge asset.
34:52 And then and then it ends up being like, OK, maybe you make
34:55 a little bit more money, but then you do 10 times the work.
34:57 Yeah. Yeah.
34:58 Then you become an actual like having to worry about people's.
35:01 And then you don't get to be the creative.
35:03 And they're trying to talk to you about raises and stuff.
35:05 And you're like, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of advantages of how our structure is.
35:09 I do not know if there's any other place in the world.
35:12 Do you ever talk to like Theo about that?
35:14 Because he's largely independent now, right?
35:16 He's independent.
35:17 But the podcasting is different.
35:18 Like podcasting is easier to be independent.
35:21 I think you don't only need yourself in a mic. Yeah, true.
35:23 What I do and I want to continue this video, I think it's a lot harder to be.
35:27 You need like a production company behind you could have your own production company
35:30 because your shoots are a little they're not cheap, right?
35:33 Like I mean, it's relative, like depends on where we're going.
35:37 The main cost is travel.
35:38 Like we travel.
35:39 We're at seven people now that we take.
35:41 But it used to be way tighter.
35:43 But since we've got like sponsors, come on, we are
35:46 we're able to take seven people and then hotels for seven people that adds up.
35:49 Yeah. Travel.
35:50 But then the actual shoots, not that expensive. For sure.
35:53 How many do you do a year like 20, 26, something like that?
35:57 We've ever. So so it started obviously for football.
36:00 I know it's obvious we started for our football segment for a football show.
36:02 That's how it started, because it was Sunday.
36:04 Conversation was the NFL. Yeah. Yeah.
36:06 I don't think so. Have that NFL show.
36:09 They have the play on that.
36:11 Yeah, they still do it. They do Sunday conversation.
36:13 Oh, I don't know. I don't know.
36:14 And one. Yeah, it's literally called Sunday conversation with the wine.
36:17 Oh, really? Yeah. It was Rowan's idea.
36:19 Rowan was like, why don't we do for the like, what do you guys want to do
36:21 on the NFL show?
36:21 And Rowan's like, why don't we do Sunday conversation,
36:23 but just change it to an E and put glenny balls, eating ice cream in the back?
36:25 Yeah. And actually, people forget me and Rowan were doing Sunday conversation.
36:29 Oh, I. That's right.
36:31 Me and Rowan were doing some of the conversation together.
36:33 We were trading off weeks and they had to be not Tillman.
36:35 I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. A couple of good. Yeah.
36:38 But then I just asked him, I was like, dude, I really feel like I'm like
36:40 figure something out here.
36:42 Do you mind if I take it?
36:42 And, you know, runs it fast. Yeah. Yeah.
36:44 It was cool.
36:46 That's good.
36:47 Yeah. Rowan's a Toronto Davis. He was
36:50 dead.
36:51 Has anybody ever made you feel like like extra uncomfortable or I mean,
36:57 I don't know what I'm really, really good at not feeling uncomfortable.
37:00 I don't know. I've always kind of been good at or bad at that type of thing
37:04 because what else are you contracted to do?
37:06 Like you got to go to the four rough and rowdies.
37:08 You got to do shit like the invitation.
37:10 Probably same as y'all. Like there's no.
37:12 There's no number of like in my contract.
37:14 It's not like you have to do this amount of anything. Yeah.
37:16 I do that because I think of it as like it's your like little business
37:20 you're running and it's like I want to do as many as I possibly can without.
37:24 The hard part is booking like, yeah, if you do too many,
37:28 then you can't book guests that are interesting.
37:30 Like I really think all these guests we have are in their own way,
37:35 like interesting guests. Yeah.
37:36 Whereas you have to do it every week
37:38 then you have to start taking people you don't really want to take. Yeah.
37:40 And it's just like it shows like you're on those tiles, like all those names.
37:44 You like, I don't know all of them, but like they're all kind of like,
37:48 oh, like I want to see this.
37:49 Like interesting finds. Yeah.
37:52 I think that's also another thing.
37:53 I think one thing that I've learned is like
37:55 you do have to say no to a lot of things ends up being the best.
37:59 Like saying no to ideas from other people for guests or guests
38:03 who want to do it that just don't make sense for the show.
38:06 You might still respect them and still think they're awesome.
38:08 It's like you don't really make sense for the show.
38:10 See, that's definitely a luxury the way you're set up too.
38:14 Because I guess like we don't have that, you know, like if we got an ad
38:17 for the next week, vodka, like you got to crank those out.
38:20 Yeah. Yeah. Like there's no.
38:22 I think they sell these. I'm not exactly sure.
38:24 I think they sell them in like buckets of whatever you can buy by one or ten.
38:28 And then it's just like within a certain I don't know.
38:30 That is a bit of an issue we're trying to figure out, like how to.
38:33 Because now for the last three years, I've done 25 in a row.
38:37 OK. 25 weeks in a row. Oh, wow. OK.
38:40 And that's really hard.
38:41 Yeah, because it's during football, which is during Thanksgiving and Christmas.
38:45 Yeah. Yeah.
38:46 So you have to work Thanksgiving and Christmas
38:47 and and get guests during holidays, which is impossible.
38:50 Yeah. So you don't ever really like bank them.
38:52 Like, could you do like no? Interesting.
38:55 OK. No, there's just periods of the year that celebrities don't do stuff.
38:58 OK. Don't do stuff over Christmas.
39:01 They don't do stuff during the summer.
39:03 I would love to bank a bunch during the summer.
39:04 They're on vacation. Yeah. They're in Europe.
39:06 OK. I would love to do that.
39:08 So but now I'm trying to go I'm trying to go the same amount per year,
39:12 but I'm not holding myself to or holding our show to every week. OK.
39:17 I've noticed that people don't care.
39:19 No, no. It's like you would think that they would.
39:22 But when you don't have whatever it comes out, it's like a little treat.
39:25 Yeah. Last week we didn't have a Sunday conversation.
39:26 We just couldn't book a guest. Yeah.
39:28 I didn't get one tweet.
39:31 Were you were you expecting it?
39:33 I was like, I was interested because usually we have one.
39:35 I was like, I wonder what's going to happen.
39:36 And I didn't hear one. It wasn't one anything.
39:38 Well, you deleted Twitter. I'm going to download Twitter.
39:41 I'm going to see. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
39:43 But people like you just got to like think about how how you consume content,
39:47 which is whatever.
39:49 You don't really go looking for things
39:51 unless I'm trying to think there's anything I go looking for.
39:53 It's really like what gets presented to me. Yeah.
39:55 And so, you know, probably most episodes don't even get presented
39:59 to someone until way after.
40:01 You know, like you might see a year later on TikTok or something. Yeah.
40:06 I know it's interesting.
40:08 The Internet is a wild, wild thing.
40:11 Do you notice that like, let's say like you like your Drake one's huge.
40:15 Do you notice like all the videos like if you get somebody for the first time,
40:20 do you notice that like they go back and watch a shit ton like all your note
40:23 or do you not follow the numbers that closely?
40:25 In terms of. No, I mean, like, so if you have like the Drake one is is nine six.
40:32 Do you notice that like the Aaron Rodgers one jump by a million?
40:36 Like a snowball Drake stood that. Yeah.
40:38 Drake's do that. I don't know if any of the other ones, but Drake's did do that.
40:41 OK. And Drake also, we launched this channel
40:43 the week before Drake.
40:46 This is a brand new channel with zero subscribers.
40:49 And I didn't promote the channel at all.
40:51 We just put the Drake episode out on the new channel and it went to like
40:55 I want to say like 400000 like in a week.
40:58 That's that's insane.
41:01 That's the Drake effect. Yeah, that's that is the truth.
41:03 And there's a new thing on YouTube where you can.
41:05 So these used to all be on Barstool YouTube.
41:07 Now you can transfer YouTube videos to different channels.
41:10 So Barstool back loaded.
41:12 So we had a new a new channel with zero subscribers,
41:16 with 50 videos that all had a million views or whatever. Yeah.
41:20 And so then when people did we did with the Drake went out, then they came
41:24 and there was tons of stuff there because they were all videos
41:26 from Barstool channel, but they kept all the views.
41:28 Yeah, it's wild, too, because obviously it's it's been great.
41:32 That's a massive guess.
41:33 But I still don't even think you've hit your your peak yet.
41:35 Like I think like this is like Hot Ones, how that's become like a destination.
41:40 Do you feel like you're there yet?
41:42 Because I think it's common if it's not there yet
41:45 in terms of like people want to get where it's like, hey, like we're doing the circuit.
41:48 Like obviously, Hot Ones is like a big spot.
41:51 You got to hit. You got to go ahead.
41:52 Whatever the Tonight Show.
41:54 I think they think about it like most if you're doing like a press run.
41:57 My understanding is like they try to do.
42:00 I think they I don't know what they call it. Internet media.
42:01 They try to do like two Internet medias.
42:04 They do two late nights to they like kind of like pick and choose.
42:07 OK, that's interesting.
42:09 So like you'll notice you'll see if like offset, offset,
42:12 just the rapper just put out a bunch of stuff.
42:14 And like he did, you'll notice he was on like
42:16 all these different shows.
42:18 You saw him everywhere.
42:19 But it was really like two of each.
42:20 It was like he did a funny interview online and he did a streaming thing online.
42:24 He's like the guys in his show, like streaming.
42:28 And he did Bobby Alta. OK.
42:31 And then he did probably like Fallon.
42:32 And then he did.
42:33 I think that's how they think about it.
42:35 Bobby Altaf. What do you think of her?
42:36 She's. I don't.
42:41 She's I think she got thrust into it pretty fast.
42:44 I kind of feel bad for her for that.
42:48 Like it just turns she became so famous overnight
42:50 and she didn't have any time to like hone what she was doing.
42:54 Yeah. I'd be honest.
42:55 You don't watch it, but yeah, I feel like people like her.
42:59 Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
43:00 Because I guess. Yeah.
43:01 Because I guess people would say like, it's kind of like,
43:04 obviously, she doesn't do what you do, but there is kind of
43:07 maybe a tone similarity.
43:08 Yeah, there's just like kind of like taking the piss out of someone, I guess.
43:12 Or like, like not being serious. Yeah.
43:15 But she just like I've been interviewing still even before this show,
43:18 I've been interviewing people in different formats for years and years and years.
43:22 Even before we started this, like there are things that you would even think about
43:26 that you have to think about when you're interviewing someone
43:28 like phrasing questions or like restating things or that just
43:33 because it's how it just comes across better.
43:35 Yeah. Even if if me and you were talking like
43:38 we could probably miss out on so many different things.
43:40 There's verbal cues or whatever, but it goes to the edit
43:42 and you're trying to cut it up and it like doesn't translate.
43:45 Yeah. So like learning those things.
43:46 I don't know the format of her show, to be honest, but.
43:48 She also asked me to do her show right after the episode after Drake.
43:54 But then I had the Will Compton contract.
43:55 Oh, no.
43:58 But it worked out. But damn.
44:00 Oh, that's loyalty right there. Yeah.
44:04 Nice gesture. That is a nice first pick of the draft.
44:08 Keep your word. Yeah.
44:12 Do you do you feel because you said you live in an area that's like not
44:16 it's more of like a retirement type of area.
44:18 Do you focus on it?
44:20 It's like, OK, I didn't want to I didn't want to give out your hometown
44:22 if it wasn't out there. But do you do you feel famous there?
44:27 Like, are you what's your no, you just walk around like, OK, no, for no answer.
44:31 But one time I was in the elevator.
44:33 I do live in like a like a fifty five plus area. Yeah.
44:36 And one lady, I was in the elevator and she looks at me and she goes
44:41 like, oh, she goes. I'm why?
44:44 I said, what? She's like, I'm white.
44:48 I said, excuse me.
44:50 She's like, I don't know.
44:51 My grandson told me to tell you I'm white
44:52 because the Kodak black line.
44:56 I know I do what she was talking about.
44:57 It's like so like I live so outside the context of like these people know.
45:00 And I was like, what are you talking about?
45:02 What like you're not.
45:04 So sometimes they're like grandchildren will come to like
45:06 they'll come to the apartment to like see, I guess, see me.
45:08 And then they're like, you know, that is or their grandparents have no idea.
45:11 And I know that he's the young guy who lives here.
45:15 Yeah. What's been your most like like holy shit moment, Drake?
45:20 Yeah. Like guys, Drake was like my favorite person ever.
45:24 Like growing up from high school, like Drake and Lil Wayne was like my favorite.
45:28 Are you able to like talk about that day at all?
45:30 Like I know you signed some shit, but like, like.
45:33 Yeah, we could. Yeah, we can talk about it.
45:35 Nothing really.
45:36 I mean, nothing really to report that haven't said like we
45:39 we went out there to Toronto.
45:40 It was very like it was very like this awesome thing for me
45:45 because obviously huge, but like it's like your favorite person.
45:47 Yeah. Not personally. I'm not trying to be weird.
45:49 Like, no, no, no, no.
45:50 I know every day song like soundtrack of your life.
45:53 Yeah. When I was in high school with all those concerts.
45:55 And yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:56 And so I was like, oh, my God, like we're going to Toronto
45:59 to Drake's house to shoot with Drake.
46:02 And then he was super cool and like super
46:04 like going back and forth with ideas.
46:07 He wanted to shoot it.
46:08 He wanted to be he wanted to be awesome.
46:10 He's like, what do you think about this?
46:11 What do you think about that?
46:12 And we think I love we'll have a Donna's on his son.
46:14 He's like, well, we start with the Donna's.
46:15 Like a lot of that's all his ideas.
46:17 Obviously, I wasn't like, let's put your six year old child.
46:20 But like, yeah, he was I mean, he's and he was just amazing.
46:25 And then he took us out to dinner afterwards and.
46:26 How's how's balls through the whole creative process?
46:31 Are you just like, let him cook, let him eat his Sundays or not present?
46:36 Yeah, I mean, he doesn't even know who he balls said he did.
46:42 I think he said he didn't know who Drake was.
46:44 Really? No, no.
46:45 He was like, send me some songs.
46:48 But swear to God.
46:48 Oh, he wasn't like in tune with like, but he has music.
46:51 But you know, he was.
46:52 He has. I mean, you would be shocked.
46:55 Gooney balls like their last like three huge guests.
46:58 He's been like, I don't even know who is this person again.
47:00 No, he doesn't have a song with Billy Joel.
47:01 So he doesn't know. I want to say like Ed.
47:03 I want to say like Ed Sheeran. He said that.
47:04 No way. He's right.
47:06 And that's like the only one I knew was Drew Barrymore.
47:10 That was the guy. Yeah.
47:13 Yeah. But balls is a huge for the show
47:16 because he makes people feel very comfortable.
47:19 And and he makes he just kind of brings like a
47:23 they can like look to him for comfort.
47:26 It gets like awkward or whatever.
47:27 Yeah, they always like look at glen balls.
47:29 Like, what do you think?
47:30 Yeah. And they all love him.
47:32 Like Drake loved the gloomy balls.
47:34 He's well, I was so sure that because glen balls rhymes with so many things.
47:39 I was like, or I don't know how to I don't know what it seems like it would.
47:42 Yeah, I was 100 percent sure that Drake was going to have a song.
47:45 He's going to say glenny balls and sipping on my honey with glenny.
47:48 And he's super horny.
47:50 And all the male guests love that he's super horny.
47:53 And they love that he like does a glenny balls
47:55 and Torrey's does well on the road. OK. Yeah.
47:58 And so usually I'll tell I've seen him out in Chicago a couple of times.
48:01 I'll tell that to the guests.
48:02 If it's a if it's a male, I'll be like, you know, tell him like this is glenny balls.
48:06 Have you met glenny balls? No.
48:07 And I was like, yeah, he's basically glenny balls is a coxswain.
48:12 He's a coxswain.
48:13 So many words. And they love they love that.
48:16 They ask so many questions.
48:17 They become like best friends with him. That's great.
48:19 So if like if you hit up like how much do you and Drake talk now?
48:23 I mean, I wish every day, but
48:26 if you were in Toronto, you text me like at dinner, do you think you would?
48:30 I don't know. Maybe. Yeah.
48:33 When you did Aaron Rodgers interview, did you have Pfizer as a sponsor?
48:38 I do love to market.
48:39 By the way, we know market. Yeah. Yeah.
48:42 You've rogers the coolest guy of all time. That's what that's what
48:45 I kill you guys as Bears fan.
48:47 Connie's like, dude, I never hated him like that.
48:49 He is the coolest dude of all time.
48:51 Yeah. He bent us over and just paddled our behinds for.
48:54 It was never even really that competitive.
48:56 So it was only a couple of years.
48:58 How many years did or games of the Bears even winning five maybe?
49:01 Well, it was like they heard him once.
49:05 Like now is that they won that game.
49:07 And I feel like that was what about when Mitch was playing
49:09 and they're up by like 50 points a half time, he got hurt
49:12 and then he comes out and wins again.
49:14 Yeah, I was there.
49:15 Who's my name? I was there.
49:17 I was in Lambo for that. Yeah.
49:18 And I was like, talk. I was.
49:20 I have to. I'm like, this is unbelievable.
49:21 Have you ever seen Eddie's pre and post game from that?
49:23 It's one of my absolute favorite fucking videos.
49:27 Can you please pull that? That was tough.
49:29 It's tough.
49:29 That was a tough era to the Chicago when Mitch was.
49:32 Yeah, because they were like not doing well and it's kind of awkward.
49:35 He was so like, obviously we don't know him, but he was so likable.
49:38 Like he's like the best.
49:39 We want him to do well.
49:40 And it just wasn't working here.
49:42 Yeah. So half time bears report or something.
49:44 Yeah, but it's hard because I was on the yak with Big Cat
49:47 and he's having to talk about the Bears caps on Monday.
49:50 And it's like, you know, he knows Mitch.
49:53 And yeah, it's just kind of that's that's one of the shit parts of our.
49:56 That's what I'm talking about.
49:56 Yeah, talking about. Yeah, it's like one thing.
49:58 We knew you too, but it was always like, man, like we knew like it's hard.
50:01 Yeah. Yeah.
50:02 Oh, well, we play the first one and then play the second one.
50:05 This is yeah.
50:06 Are you fucking kidding me with what's going on at Lambeau Field right now?
50:10 We got fucking scat back skating all around this motherfucker.
50:13 We got Charlie Leno lining up at wide receiver.
50:16 Oh, two first rounders.
50:17 That's too much for Khalil Mack.
50:19 He's fucking taking handoffs.
50:20 He's got his fucking knuckles and Brian Balaga's nose.
50:24 This guy is a fucking stud.
50:25 He's reading screens.
50:26 He's coming up. He's dropping back.
50:28 He's picking off. He's picking six.
50:30 This fucking team and that Collins was going to say, oh, you hate to see that.
50:33 Aaron Rodgers, that changes everything that didn't change.
50:36 Fucking shit.
50:37 This fucking game bears had it from the fucking get go.
50:40 This is different. Fucking team.
50:42 Still got a half left. It's not over yet. Let's fuck.
50:44 All right. I'm here to face the music.
50:47 The Bears lost, as you may know.
50:50 Today is definitely one of those
50:55 drive home with the car radio off kind of nights.
50:57 I may go sleep in a forest preserve.
51:02 I don't know what happened.
51:03 We had them 20, 20 to nothing, 20 to nothing.
51:06 Missed pick running out of bounds.
51:11 Bad snaps.
51:13 That motherfucker, Aaron Rodgers, just does it to us every time.
51:17 It's just it's I don't know.
51:20 Just get ready for Seattle, I guess.
51:25 We Monday Night Football get to do it all again on primetime.
51:28 So go bear.
51:30 All right, then we could wrap this up, dude.
51:32 Yeah, this is a fun dress.
51:35 So all right.
51:36 At this point, the draft you write down in like the notes app in your phone
51:40 or something, who had the worst draft and then we all vote.
51:42 And then you get left off the pole on Twitter.
51:44 Yeah. So who had the worst draft?
51:46 The worst draft?
51:47 Harry, Harry, Harry, lying about his numbers.
51:50 Yeah. Hey, nice gesture.
51:53 Completely doing a different show than we offered.
51:54 Yeah, yeah.
51:55 Older. Oh, it's nice to talk to you.
51:56 Yeah, exactly.
51:57 And it's fun to talk about this kind of stuff, too, for me, because
52:00 obviously I think about it a lot, but like I do think talking about it
52:04 too much takes a lot of magic out of it.
52:06 True. Yeah, yeah, true.
52:07 So you've got to be mindful of like the person's experience of watching it
52:12 because I've had things ruined for me when you like know too much about it
52:15 or kind of takes away.
52:16 You see the yeah, you see how the sausage gets made.
52:19 Yeah, it's not cool. Yeah.
52:20 But I will say this, that Sunday is very real.
52:22 We don't like people think it's like edited with like,
52:25 you know, we're cutting in parts that didn't happen or it's
52:28 it's exactly how it happens.
52:30 We never.
52:31 We never change anything, so it is it is a real thing that happens.
52:35 This is fun, though. Yeah, it was great.
52:36 How's it do for sure?
52:37 I would love to do a draft sometime to do that.
52:39 Well, we will do a little boy's trip down to Boca.
52:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
52:43 Oh, well, great.
52:43 Hey, actually, let's do that.
52:45 We just invited yourself ourselves to your house.
52:48 You are more than welcome. All right.
52:51 Your canes.
52:51 They literally do like, you know, like the pool aerobics.
52:55 Oh, yeah.
52:57 They do it every morning.
52:58 Do they have a ball there?
52:59 Yeah, they put out a bocce.
53:01 I don't think at our compound, but they have literally like
53:03 we wake up in the morning, like the pool is like they're out there with them.
53:07 Oh, yeah. Floaty, floaty weights.
53:09 That's great. Awesome.
53:11 How have they even let you in there?
53:13 I don't know.
53:15 I'm renting, but I don't know. I don't know what.
53:17 Whatever. I mean, I guess they I guess a lot of there are young people there,
53:20 but they're always like the grandkids.
53:22 So it's like I would love to live like as we speak.
53:25 You wouldn't ever get poverty, I feel like.
53:27 Oh, no, never. Yeah. So amazing.
53:29 All right, then.
53:30 Caleb, thank you.
53:32 Thank you, guys.
53:33 We will do a draft and you guys come to Florida.
53:34 We play some golf and do that. Yeah, that'd be great.
53:37 Yes. All right. That's it, everybody.
53:39 Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. See you next time.
53:41 We'll see you next time.
53:42 (whooshing)
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