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Stefan Molyneux
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00:00:00 Favorite Zeppelin songs?
00:00:02 I say baby
00:00:07 Baby baby, I'm gonna leave you and I
00:00:12 Leave you in the summertime
00:00:16 Leave you when the summer comes along
00:00:20 Yeah, Led Zeppelin did not reject the devil's offer. Just remember I actually didn't get into Led Zeppelin
00:00:26 I had a girlfriend in my early 20s who introduced me to Led Zeppelin
00:00:29 And I just remember listening to it
00:00:32 Where that mean there's so much despair and nihilism and hellishness in Led Zeppelin music
00:00:39 Like it's just absolutely appalling and I just remember hearing Robert Plant
00:00:44 You know if you if you sing to a woman, you know, we're gonna go walking in the park every day
00:00:50 Okay, we're just gonna we're just gonna go walking in the park every day
00:00:54 It doesn't sound bad, but he still makes it sound like we're gonna go walk in a park
00:00:59 every day and
00:01:01 Round up children with tasers and put them in the back of a windowless van and drive to hell like that's how it goes
00:01:07 You know, we're gonna go walking at the park every day
00:01:10 Just so monstrously horrifying. I
00:01:13 Always liked in in I don't like the song communication breakdown that much but I really liked the bit where he goes
00:01:19 Oh, I should like he just makes this sound in the middle. He does that really well and
00:01:24 Robert plants favorite musical experience actually was doing the honey drippers with Paul Schaefer from the David Letterman show
00:01:31 He did the honey drippers. I've mentioned this before of course a good rock in a midnight. Just a great great tune
00:01:36 It's impossible to be a kid in Chicago without knowing I in the sky
00:01:41 So serious is really great serious is one of these like incredibly hypnotic pieces of instrumental
00:01:50 Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. I played it to my daughter saying, you know, here's where the drums come in
00:01:55 Here's where the bass comes in. Here's where it goes down to the minimum and there's some I don't know what it is
00:02:00 But there's is it the Chicago? Is it the hockey team that has serious as its theme?
00:02:06 I don't know. But yeah, it's honey drippers was great. Yeah. Yeah, honey drippers was great
00:02:16 But Robert plant had a couple of years he was even more assiduous in destroying his voice than Freddie Mercury was
00:02:21 Because although oh gosh the worst in terms of aging the worst voices Paul Young's I listened to him recently do a cover
00:02:29 Like if you listen to Paul Young when he was younger, he did a cover of the old song
00:02:33 By the look in your eye I can tell you're gonna cry. Is it over me?
00:02:39 I love that song. It's like an incredibly great song heartbreaking song
00:02:45 And he did it live and he sounded fantastic
00:02:46 but Paul Young wrecked his voice touring to the point where he was barely allowed to speak for a whole year and
00:02:51 Wonderland is another great song by him and broken man
00:02:55 this is one of the few he wrote himself that took a little bit of time to get used to but then it's just fantastic and
00:02:59 Paul Young I just wrecked his voice. I think like I heard him even even though he took it took it down a key or
00:03:08 Two is singing singing wherever I lay my hat recently. It's just terrible
00:03:12 Although in the past it was fantastic like him doing it live with these backup singers is just fantastic, right?
00:03:17 Chicago Bulls theme serious. Yeah, don't know don't don't know. Yeah, that's great
00:03:22 That's great
00:03:25 Go
00:03:27 Yeah
00:03:29 Did Paul Young tour with Queen 2005?
00:03:31 I don't think so. So Paul Young in the Queen in the Freddie Mercury tribute concert didn't Paul Young do Radio Gaga?
00:03:38 I'm not proud. I know all this stuff. It's just truth that I do so
00:03:42 You love Guns and Roses I
00:03:47 Tell you something interesting. Here's a little bit of interesting trivia about Guns and Roses
00:03:51 What is a very obscure song that Guns and Roses used to do live?
00:03:54 Just out of curiosity and
00:04:00 I don't think we never did this song. Do I know the song dragon attack?
00:04:05 What's a killer song it was actually the bassist favorite song that they ever did
00:04:08 Yeah, it's a great song it's a great workout song in fact, there's a guy called method
00:04:14 Lance Herbstrong does a cover of dragon attack that has a synthesizer match with the bass and he weaves in
00:04:23 He weaves in we will rock you as well as well. So that's fantastic
00:04:27 So Guns and Roses. Oh gosh, they did a they used to do live they did
00:04:34 Hey little baby. You're changing
00:04:36 Babe, are you feeling sure a sore ain't no use in pretending. You don't want to pray no more
00:04:43 They used to do
00:04:46 Sail away, sweet sister little scraps of it live and that's a lovely song. That's a lovely song
00:04:51 I was never a huge fan of Brian May as a vocalist
00:04:54 But that is a very lovely song and there's a great bit a coda in the middle that Freddie Mercury sings
00:05:01 All right, we can talk music from here to eternity I imagine
00:05:05 I you know, I couldn't quite get over
00:05:10 Axl Rose's voice
00:05:13 And you know like I I hate to be the guy who's like well
00:05:16 he didn't age very well, you know, cuz you know part of its kind of luck and all of that, but
00:05:20 Yeah, I'm not sure that axel cuz they was a very good-looking guy when he was younger, but I don't know that
00:05:26 Super cool that you know this music trivia. I
00:05:29 am
00:05:31 I'm music obsessed. I mean, I'm frankly I'm absolutely music music obsessed
00:05:36 Go listen to Mike bats
00:05:39 Tarot sweet t-a-r-o-t tarot sweet. Okay, you can skip over Lady of the Dawn, but the rest of it is just fantastic
00:05:45 Listen to Ry Cooder on slide guitar heck listen to the entire Paris, Texas soundtrack. It's incredible for slide guitar
00:05:54 Did you ever get into tool Steph? Ah
00:05:58 The night they drove old Dixie down. Yeah, you know tool. I think so
00:06:02 Actual aged out like a promiscuous woman. Yeah, it's funny if you if you compare how
00:06:10 Bill Clinton aged
00:06:13 Relative to oh gosh, what's his name?
00:06:18 Sammy Hagar, I mean Sammy Hagar looks fantastic
00:06:22 Getty Lee or Axl for voice
00:06:24 I got more into Getty Lee as I got older and I saw I think I've seen rush three times live
00:06:29 And of course, it's a fantastic band
00:06:31 What was it Getty Lee's original name was Weinberg and
00:06:35 He I listened to a scrap of his he just wrote a book
00:06:40 It's amazing how many books are written by singers these days, I guess during lockdown
00:06:43 They had to have something to do with their creativity. So I mean you got stuff obviously Bono's written this endless tract
00:06:48 Well, it's Bono. So it's about Bono. Of course, it will be endless
00:06:52 and a Getty Lee's written an autobiography Bruce Springsteen, I listened to a
00:06:58 History of the doors. I listened to history of Queen. I listened to history of
00:07:03 Led Zeppelin and all that kind of stuff. So any new artists you would listen to their album if they dropped something new
00:07:10 Um
00:07:14 Well, my daughter's introduced me to a group that does video game songs
00:07:18 I know it sounds a bit odd when they do other stuff to call JT music and they're pretty neat
00:07:22 a
00:07:25 New artist will listen to their if they drop something new
00:07:27 I'm afraid and I talked about this in my novel the god of atheists. I've become a music archaeologist
00:07:35 I'm afraid I'm just not interested
00:07:37 I'm just not that interested in new music, but I'm happy to listen to a remix of an old song
00:07:41 Like I had oh, I remember the song that popped up in my head
00:07:45 Oh
00:07:48 Gosh
00:07:50 It's by
00:07:53 red Tom Cochran and red Ryder
00:07:55 How does it start now
00:07:59 He's an impossible guy to sing along with he's got a great top-level bluesy voice, you know him from life as a highway
00:08:06 Boy
00:08:10 Let me just get that
00:08:13 So long so long so long been away
00:08:18 When I turned 17 we had passion we had dreams
00:08:22 Thought the love we're fighting for it was something holy something more. It's really great
00:08:28 When I turned 21, we were outside on the run when I walked out with my girl
00:08:34 We went halfway around the world
00:08:36 That's great great song a boy inside the man it's got this great I
00:08:42 Know this sounds like not rocking at all. It's got this great
00:08:47 Banjo at the beginning just done done done. That's really really good. And it's such an uplifting song. It's just such an uplifting song. I
00:08:54 Will hit hot by the light so bright it burned all at once. I knew she'd understand the boy inside the man
00:09:02 Hit by the light so bright it burns such a great song really really uplifting and I saw him live to actually gosh
00:09:10 Gosh, what the heck? All right
00:09:15 Speaking of singers and books. Have you seen Britney Spears wrote a book? Oh
00:09:18 I probably shouldn't say this
00:09:23 Yeah, I probably shouldn't shouldn't say this
00:09:28 Do I know that Britney Spears has written a book I
00:09:43 Do know a I do know that Britney Britney Spears has written a book be I've read it
00:09:50 I read the book
00:09:56 Well, remember I was I finally got the jab I
00:10:03 Finally got the jet
00:10:06 I was stuck in a hospital waiting for the Canadian health care system to give me a tetanus shot because I stepped on a nail
00:10:11 in the woods
00:10:13 I
00:10:15 Yeah
00:10:17 Iron Maiden I find them a little claustrophobic and spiky although it does have me confessed to being a witch on a regular basis
00:10:24 How was the book the book is?
00:10:27 unbelievably heartbreaking
00:10:30 It is it is it is an unbelievably heartbreaking book, but do you guys care about Britney Spears?
00:10:38 I don't want to get overly philosophical on you. But hey, maybe I could write the book off
00:10:43 Do you yeah, I don't know if you are I mean it's it's family stuff man, it's family stuff
00:10:48 So, you know she was put into this conservatorship for like 13 years right where she was not allowed to have her own spending money
00:10:58 She was not allowed to make her own decisions
00:11:00 And yet she performed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of shows some in Vegas somewhere else
00:11:05 so apparently she was completely incompetent to take care of her own affairs, but
00:11:10 Strangely enough she was completely competent to make millions and millions and millions of dollars
00:11:16 largely
00:11:19 For her father
00:11:21 For her father
00:11:24 The amount of art that gets destroyed by dysfunctional parents can scarcely be imagined
00:11:33 And Marlon Brando was the same way Marlon Brando's asshole alcoholic father was he put Marlon Brando put him in charge of his business
00:11:40 Interests where he promptly lost massive amounts of money and put Marlon Brando into a shitty film
00:11:45 Tailspin just to make money to pay off his debtors for like 10 years straight. We lost unbelievable amounts of great art out of Marlon Brando. Oh
00:11:51 Yeah, the Jacksons, oh yeah the dads the dads are just brutal
00:11:57 The the dads are just just brutal
00:12:02 so
00:12:05 If you have corrupt people in your life, I
00:12:09 mean this is something that
00:12:11 This is something that one of my business partners told me many many many years ago
00:12:18 Many years ago. He said if you have difficult people in your life your life becomes difficult
00:12:27 It's really tragic it's really tragic
00:12:34 You
00:12:36 Yeah, yeah, I mean if you have these kinds of destructive people in your life your life would just be horrible
00:12:48 But Britney Spears is like on completely another level
00:12:51 It's completely on another level that level of fame I
00:13:01 Do you care about my fame experiences does that even remember I want to be here for you guys
00:13:06 Do you care about my fame experiences
00:13:09 Yeah, I'm a slave for you, yeah
00:13:27 So there was a time where I became semi-famous
00:13:29 Where I was very prominent and just about every time I went out somebody would recognize me
00:13:34 I mean there was time a bill at the time
00:13:36 My Maserati goes 185
00:13:41 But I lost my license so now I don't drive
00:13:45 Yeah, I was I would I would go out and just about every time I would get I would get recognized
00:13:51 I had this wonderful
00:13:53 Lovely Hispanic waiters when I took my daughter out for dinner at the keg these lovely Hispanic waiters were so keen on my show
00:13:58 They absolutely insisted though. I really begged them not to to pay for my meal
00:14:01 It was just because they just loved what what I talked about in terms of peaceful parenting and all that sort of stuff
00:14:05 when I would go to a computer source people would
00:14:08 Recognize me and so there was a time there was a time
00:14:14 For a couple of years there where it was I wouldn't say it was hard to go out in public
00:14:20 Yeah, Joe was good one good one. It was I wasn't like some big
00:14:23 I'm obviously it wasn't paparazzi or being chased around at high speed or anything like that
00:14:27 but
00:14:29 there was a
00:14:31 couple of years there
00:14:33 Where it was hard to not be recognized if that makes sense
00:14:38 It would happen at the strangest places too I
00:14:44 remember when I was in Australia, I took this train ride called Puffing Billy out to literally the end of nowhere and
00:14:50 People at the end of that ride in the cafe recognized me and I'm like, oh my gosh
00:14:55 Like I'm halfway to Alpha Centauri and I'm being recognized. So
00:14:59 It was it was tough and outside of just generally being hunted by the leftists in Australia
00:15:05 I would say that with one exception it was all relentlessly positive
00:15:10 It was all relentlessly positive
00:15:13 Oh
00:15:15 Yes signed autographs I took bunch of selfies and all of that
00:15:18 Dave says I saw you at the 21 convention in Orlando
00:15:21 I think that was right before YouTube pushing you out your stuff helped me change my life for the better. Oh, thanks Dave
00:15:25 I appreciate that
00:15:26 Yeah, there was only
00:15:28 You live near there. Ah
00:15:30 Wonderful wonderful place. I mean, I absolutely love that trip. I can't believe it's five years ago five years ago. I was in Australia
00:15:36 I was in Australia and
00:15:40 Yeah, it was it was a great trip a wonderful trip
00:15:43 I'm very very glad that I did it got my got my words in before
00:15:47 The hammer came down. Oh, what was the exception? Um, I
00:15:51 Went to a restaurant with my daughter and the guy recognized me and was kind of surly
00:16:00 He was cut he was kind he was kind of surly in that he was just kind of negative and he's like
00:16:07 Oh, I recognize you, you know, just kind of and I'm like, oh
00:16:10 Nice nice to meet you. Um, you know, it sounds like you disagree. I'm certainly a happy to hear disagreements and all that
00:16:16 It's like it's just the way you say things and it was just it was very soy boy stuff
00:16:20 It was just it was nothing. There's no content, right? There's no content God
00:16:24 I can't tell you how much contempt I have for people who never engage with content
00:16:33 Steph you are still the biggest celebrity of me hanging out with you on an intimate locals livestream is the equivalent of me being
00:16:38 Alex Jones hanging out with Charlie. She
00:16:41 Please come back to Australia
00:16:44 Gold Coast is waiting for my
00:16:47 Well, so so the problem is I mean do you guys know why I don't do public appearances anymore
00:16:54 I mean, obviously, you know about sort of the risks and the violence and so on
00:16:57 Do you know sort of the reasoning behind not doing public appearances anymore? Oh, yeah
00:17:01 The people who don't it's like here's the thing like if you don't want to engage in content then shut up about the topic
00:17:08 I've met a couple of red pill guys who don't get you at all
00:17:13 It was a pleasant surprise to see that book centered around men's rights. Oh, yes my book the present somebody very
00:17:20 I think that was you Dave who kindly said and I just wanted to point that said I've been listening to your novel the present
00:17:25 I'm up to chapter 27 awesome book painfully true. You're acting makes it perfect. So
00:17:31 Yeah
00:17:33 It's also my love letter Christianity
00:17:38 You can do a lot more at home, right? No, it's not so much that it's that I would my concern is
00:17:45 I mean I can hire security for my own safety and that's relatively safe. I can hire security for my own safety
00:17:51 but the problem is that
00:17:54 It's the people coming in and out of the venue who get attacked, right
00:18:00 so the people coming in and out of the venues get attacked and they're not obviously gonna have their own security and
00:18:06 It doesn't like police get called and they don't even show up, right?
00:18:11 Last time you went outside you got to your guest. No, that was that was my that was my choice
00:18:17 I mean I I was walking into that. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna blame anybody but myself for that
00:18:22 I knew that was coming and that was just part of the deal. That was for my
00:18:25 documentary on Hong Kong I went down to Hong Kong and
00:18:29 March with the anti-communist protesters and got tear gassed a couple of times actually for my troubles and actually I'm
00:18:37 In hindsight, it was kind of retarded because I should have a I should have had eye protection
00:18:40 Because one of those things could have hit me in the eye
00:18:42 But yeah tear gas was quite was quite vivid was was quite vivid
00:18:46 But no, it's it's really just if I do some public event
00:18:49 People are gonna come and my concern is that there would be riots and attacks
00:18:55 In the audience and again, I can hire security and I can be relatively protected
00:19:01 but
00:19:03 It's the audience that could be attacked and I would really I would really obviously dislike
00:19:09 I would really dislike it if the audience was harmed
00:19:14 Your Hong Kong documentary is absolutely fantastic. Great documentary best doc. Oh, if anyone hasn't watched it you should
00:19:22 It's a it's a bittersweet thing to think about because of course I interviewed Martin Lee who was the guy who wrote Hong Kong's Constitution
00:19:28 He was later jailed
00:19:29 so
00:19:31 Yeah, it was rough
00:19:33 Didn't someone get killed at that thing you did with Cernovich. It's not a thing I did with Cernovich full credit
00:19:39 It was the night for freedom that Mike did
00:19:41 Yeah, you had people outside chanting you want a red pill. How about a lead pill ie a bullet?
00:19:45 There was a guy who was attacked
00:19:48 As he left the venue and he ended up in hospital and
00:19:51 Myself and some of the other speakers went to go and visit him and see how he was doing
00:19:54 Half the meetups in Poland. Yes, you certainly could have a meetup in Poland like two places. I could have meetups were Poland and
00:20:02 Hong Kong
00:20:05 so
00:20:07 What if it was a retreat type scenario not in a major city I
00:20:11 Hear what you're saying. I really do and and I love meeting people. I'm absolutely love meeting audience members and
00:20:17 having those great conversations in person are wonderful and
00:20:20 I'd really just have to work on the cost benefits. I mean cost benefit, right?
00:20:29 If you
00:20:34 Have any any tips in your gullets?
00:20:37 I would appreciate that people are asking me and I will get back to it
00:20:40 I promise people are asking me why there haven't been new chapters released for the peaceful parenting book
00:20:46 Well, I did end up taking a bit of a detour
00:20:48 past
00:20:51 I did nine and a half hours on the French Revolution, which you should definitely check out if you if you haven't
00:20:58 But as you know
00:21:02 I have hired some people and I need to be pretty responsible for the income and unfortunately the peaceful parenting book
00:21:07 Wasn't generating the kind of income and donations no particular fault to anyone
00:21:11 I'm just sort of I have to be really clear on the income and expenses and
00:21:15 So I had to move towards something that was going to generate income
00:21:19 I will absolutely get back to it for sure and I will certainly finish it up, but it was tough for it
00:21:24 You say I was at a night for freedom that night it was a great time apart from the leftists outside
00:21:31 Yeah
00:21:35 Yes, it was it was quite wild to be at the closing in the closing
00:21:40 Days of the age of reason like it was really cool to be out and public in the closing days of the age of reason
00:21:47 you know lasted a couple hundred years and that's pretty good for a
00:21:52 Reason to actually last a couple hundred years. That's really quite impressive
00:21:57 But it was very cool to be in the closing ceremonies for the age of reason the shutting down of the age of reason
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00:22:06 Yeah, look up who won the Dutch election
00:22:17 Your speech was fantastic that night. Thank you very much
00:22:20 The Australian RBA governor blaming inflation on people visiting the dentist. Ooh
00:22:24 Hey Paula, welcome. Good evening
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00:22:51 But I don't want to interrupt this wonderful conversation with a mere rant
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00:23:32 Go see a picture of Alicia Silverstone these days and then say you should give up everything for beauty
00:23:36 Alright
00:23:38 I'm gonna give you a typical TikTok video of a woman complaining about inflation
00:23:44 Hit me with a "Y" if you're ready for a typical TikTok video about a woman complaining about inflation
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00:23:58 I always find it funny until you see the TikTok thing at the end
00:24:02 Alright
00:24:04 Okay people
00:24:06 Like super real
00:24:08 Like oh my god
00:24:10 Like I just spent $98 to fill up my gas tank and it's like oh my god
00:24:16 And then it's like literally like I'm a teacher like teaching
00:24:20 In the teacher's chair in a classroom like with the children
00:24:24 I don't know why half Christopher Walken there
00:24:27 I'm like a teacher and like literally like every two weeks I make $1000 and I turn around and I give that to the landlord
00:24:36 And like groceries are through the roof and I have to buy my own supplies and oh my god
00:24:41 Like I totally just realized that I'm taking money out of my like savings account and I'm putting it into my checking account
00:24:51 And then I'm giving it to everyone and their dog and I'm literally in a negative cash flow situation
00:24:57 And I just like while I'm doing this video I like totally realized I'm losing money every month
00:25:02 God
00:25:05 What
00:25:07 This is insane this is absolutely like unsustainable
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00:25:17 Seriously people like I'm upset here what are we gonna do like
00:25:23 I can't even like
00:25:28 I mean okay like I don't make a lot of coffee at home and I like to go to get $7 coffees from people of questionable sexuality
00:25:36 But seriously a girl's not allowed any indulgences at all anymore
00:25:43 Now tattoos aren't cheap and obviously I have some of those
00:25:47 My makeup is good I have a ring light I have a good camera good cell phone but people like what is going on with this inflation stuff it's horrendous
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00:26:05 I mean I've had to go like seriously I have a spreadsheet at home that some guy who likes me made for me
00:26:14 Because you know he's just he's really sweet I guess I'll keep him in the back after the bad boys run out of juice
00:26:21 But like he gave me this spreadsheet and literally I have to go from
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00:26:44 It's inhumane this is like this is like Salem witch trials burned at the stake anti-female
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00:27:17 That's gonna be uh that's gonna be tough to sustain
00:27:22 I got an infection on my nipple rings I tried rubbing some wormwood and fantasy dryad juice on it didn't work at all
00:27:37 That's crazy
00:27:43 And like I don't even have enough to tip the uber eats driver more than like 10% horrendous
00:27:53 I might have to start being nice to men
00:27:59 That's right
00:28:04 You know in Toronto in Toronto women are actually renting the other side of the bed
00:28:10 Like there are women who are literally renting the other side of the bed to make ends meet
00:28:15 It's capitalist grade
00:28:19 It's a pretty funny song I've never been able to find it again I heard some comedian he had a song called vocal fry girlfriend
00:28:28 I looked it up on Wikipedia
00:28:36 Oh by the way get out of New York City do you know I mean did you hear this I mean if you're in New York City like what are you doing like please God get out of New York
00:28:45 New York State is just passing measures that allow them to detain you pretty much infinitely if they think you've got an illness and apply whatever medical quote treatments they want even if they're experimental oh my god
00:28:59 Oh my god
00:29:05 And is there any I mean is any like why would I listen to complete why would I listen to people who complain about what they voted for
00:29:20 I mean if you don't care enough to learn anything about the issues if you if you don't learn enough to know anything about the issues why not what I care about you complaining
00:29:35 I mean literally at this point it's like well wait a minute like okay like fair enough I've been like smoking for like 320 years but it's only been a pack and a half a day and like apparently now like it turns out that it's smoking is bad for you and my lungs really kind of look and feel like I've actually reached down to my elbow
00:29:59 And I've actually felt my lungs they feel like an old catcher's mitt and apparently apparently smoking is just bad for you like nobody told me and how am I supposed to know
00:30:16 How can they legally do that what do you mean how can they legally do that yeah so people like it's if you don't want to do any research like you just want to say I just want to stop these people who make in these tic tacs and it's like okay what causes inflation
00:30:33 Let's try this here let's just do what causes what causes inflation boom let's see here what causes inflation let's go to some
00:30:54 Expansion of the money supply and demand and so on yeah expansion of the money supply so you can you can figure it out pretty easily right
00:31:06 Like I can't I can't follow why it's better to make a tic tac complaining about inflation than to figure out what causes inflation does that make sense
00:31:28 Like I can't understand why you'd make a video complaining about inflation instead of learning what causes inflation
00:31:38 Inflation like when a guy gets horny
00:31:45 Boner the federal says money printing doesn't affect inflation yes that's right a lot of cigarette companies can play said that smoking doesn't cause cancer
00:31:58 Because it gives them an excuse to put on makeup and complain about money so white knights pay them
00:32:04 I gotta tell you like I as a guy can you imagine like as a man and just for women so you understand like what it's like so if you're a man can you imagine as a man making a video complaining about something
00:32:24 And getting any fucking sympathy at all like can you imagine as a man making a video complaining about something and getting anything other than man up insults
00:32:40 Like the planet that women live in modern women the planet the modern live women live in is like it feels like as a man and I could be wrong about this maybe you you feel different but the planet that modern women live in is like an intergalactic distance away from men
00:32:59 Like it's an intergalactic distance away from men women complain to get simp and government resources seems to work I mean do you get like just what a wild difference is I'll give you an example
00:33:26 Alright why did I do that why did I why did I do that I just showed my feet I just one of my one of my feet just showed a foot why why did I do that
00:33:53 I met a foot model ages ago what a wacko tetanus
00:34:00 Do you know have you ever heard of the website called feet finder dot com please god never go there but you have to heard of the website called feet finder dot com
00:34:11 Feet finder dot com
00:34:23 So how much do I have to work to get donations like I have to rant and do accents and sweat and make jokes and sing and dance and all that kind of stuff right
00:34:48 So I have to study philosophy for 40 years put my life on the line go right to the edge of what is survivable socially and politically and get banned resurrect myself Easter style right
00:35:02 And for all of that I can get some donations right or or
00:35:15 Foot have lower chimpanzee hands
00:35:23 Literally if you ever want to be really depressed you can just look at how much money women make off foot finder dot com like they take pictures of their feet post them and men send them fucking money
00:35:37 Men send I don't get the foot thing I don't get the foot thing I don't understand the foot thing some fetishes I kinda get like a very abstract level like I can understand that it used to be that overweight women were considered attractiveness because the very common thing was was starvation
00:35:56 So I can kinda get that but the foot thing I don't I don't get it all I don't you'll buy my bathwater I don't I don't get the foot thing at all it just seems so ridiculously humiliating
00:36:15 Like you just want a woman to stand on your balls that gets you off I don't understand it so there are better parts of the body stand their feet totally so yeah I don't so I the amount of work that I have to do to to get donations and find a way to sort of survive online the amount of work that I have to do is like almost beyond staggering right
00:36:41 It's like almost beyond staggering or or go with me here I can have feet I can have feet oh my gosh humiliation is the point yeah it's very very bizarre right very palpable point FDR is the most valuable show oh my gosh thank you for explaining my joke James
00:37:05 Sorry haven't tipped or donated in a while thank you Adam I really really appreciate that that's very kind
00:37:13 Alright what about the whole financial domination oh god I saw this video the other day of this woman who was complaining that you know men just can't stand it when there's stuff for women you know like the marvels it's like it's got female leads men just can't stand it or the Barbie movie men just can't stand it blah blah blah blah right
00:37:39 Like all of school is designed for women most of university is designed for women all the fucking malls are designed for women women make 90% of at home purchases the welfare state is designed for women the welfare state is the single mother state national debts are designed for women but god forbid men complain about any of it then you just misogynist you can't stand that women have anything
00:38:05 Is that wild oh my gosh oh my gosh 10x your revenue by getting back on Twitter bro the stream to avoid 40 minute rant oh come on guys come on I know you're joking I'm curious let me let me do this Paul
00:38:33 Let's say I went back on Twitter amount of days you believe I would remain monetized on Twitter just just out of curiosity amount of days that you think I would remain monetized on Twitter
00:39:01 Amazon is basically female needs on demand service
00:39:09 Oh here's a tweet of mine when's this from oh this is right after my birthday 2019 come on ladies you know this your youthful physical beauty is for building a family it's not a personal plaything for your giddy vanity if you use your beauty for ego gratification it will dry up and die in your wrinkled hands then it will be too late to be loved
00:39:33 That is some fine even with the typo right so yeah it's pretty funny right depends you know exactly what you can and can't say what are you talking about oh you have this fantasy that these companies are bound by their own rules of service
00:40:01 You you believe sorry you believe that these companies are bound by their own rules of service is that your theory I'm sorry to be the last but your theory is that no no no see this things you can say and things you can't say and as long as you stay on the right side you're fine because apparently terms of service just physics and nobody can violate the laws of physics.
00:40:25 It's kind of funny right oh come on right I mean you can't imagine that right that's funny.
00:40:37 Felix Rex aka black pigeon speaks did a shout out to you with that tweet of yours today well that's nice oh was that was that him I think I watched a couple of videos of him some years ago seems like a smart guy is he is in Japan I don't know I don't know anyway yeah well that's nice that's nice that's nice I mean you have to remember very few people miss me I mean you don't have to remember but it might be wise to remember that very few people miss me.
00:41:06 Alright questions comments issues challenges hit me with how I can best help I don't honestly I mean I appreciate that I really don't have much of an urge to talk to people you have many that miss you well but most of them don't know that they miss me.
00:41:35 I tell her like most of them don't know that they miss me and what I mean by that is it if something is posted of mine on Twitter I will you know I would get somebody will say hey you got posted on Twitter and I go and have a look and I mentioned this on the Monday night show but in case you weren't there.
00:41:51 I go on to Twitter and I'll have a look at something that was posted of mine.
00:41:58 And what are all the comments underneath what do they say what do people say.
00:42:05 Happy Thanksgiving Philip I appreciate that to our American friends and listeners thank you and happy Thanksgiving to you guys as well.
00:42:12 Senevich misses ya.
00:42:28 Where did that guy go I love to stray from Martin vid yeah whatever happened to that guy oh yeah that guy.
00:42:37 Alright.
00:42:42 Yeah and so people don't really miss me.
00:42:47 I used to watch that guy I haven't thought of him in forever where did he go and then somebody Jared will post oh he's still producing content he's right there.
00:43:01 Oh my gosh.
00:43:06 Other comments mostly negative no no no no.
00:43:16 I mean imagine if there's someone you had a great relationship with and she moves one door over like she said nine nine nine.
00:43:24 Main street she moves one thousand main street like one.
00:43:28 One door over and you're standing in front of nine nine nine main street like I miss her so much I miss her so much where is she gone.
00:43:39 And it's like you know you can.
00:43:42 Literally one fucking house over no but that girl she meant everything to me I miss her so I love her she's like literally three steps bro three steps and you can get not but I just I'll never find another girl like her my heart is broken I've never.
00:44:00 It's one.
00:44:02 Door over.
00:44:09 Yeah whatever happened to that guy.
00:44:12 Like even when they're reminded of me they don't just look me up and find me it's like yeah.
00:44:24 She's gone she's gone.
00:44:30 Oh that's funny.
00:44:32 I think Odyssey's up for sale.
00:44:35 Creating a bookmark burns too many calories yeah yeah no and Rumble and Locals functionality is pretty close to what YouTube was when you were kicked so no excuse yeah.
00:44:44 Yep yep.
00:44:49 What do you think of Hjellvaldur winning the election along with Argentine Millet.
00:44:54 Millet.
00:44:58 I remember you discovering your YouTube channel had been shut down and literally crying I'm sorry about that yeah I was a big shame it was a big shame.
00:45:07 It's a big shame.
00:45:12 Alright hit me with a why if you have any narcissistic people in your life hit me with a why if you have any narcissistic people in your life I want to know somebody's asked how do you deal with narcissistic people in one's life I can tell you you won't like me afterwards but that's fine the important thing is to be virtuous not like me.
00:45:36 Yes I got rid of them and now I'm alone mostly.
00:45:44 You do have you have some you don't understand narcissism fully.
00:45:54 Would you like an explanation of narcissism.
00:46:00 Yes no.
00:46:04 You don't need one maybe you do maybe you don't.
00:46:08 Sorry I know we gotta wait for a second to for people to catch up would you like an explanation of narcissism.
00:46:16 So that you can clearly identify it.
00:46:21 Yes okay well so people are catching up I ended long-term friendship due to narcissism yes.
00:46:27 Okay.
00:46:35 Narcissism this is just my amateur opinion I'm no psychologist right so it's just my amateur opinion right.
00:46:41 So a narcissist lives in a universe of one.
00:46:45 Other people exist and have value to the narcissist only in so far as they serve the needs of the narcissist.
00:46:58 They don't view other people as like themselves however they recognize that there are certain words that will unlock other people's valuables.
00:47:10 Right I mean if you think of the scene where the fellowship of the ring they're trying to get into the minds of Moria right.
00:47:16 And it says in Elvish speak friend and enter and it turns out that you just have to they go like crazy trying to open it and turns out they just need to speak the Elvish word for friend and it opens right.
00:47:27 So a narcissist doesn't believe doesn't fundamentally get that other people exist and are like the narcissist but he does recognize that certain word combinations can unlock the value contained in other people like a magic spell.
00:47:44 So certain word combinations will unlock the value that other people have.
00:47:51 So he's learned that if you say to a woman I love you it's more likely that she will sleep with you now he wants to satisfy his own needs so he will woo the woman he will bring her flowers he will tell her he loves her because that's the combination like if you have a locker and it has a combination we all had these in school right you got a little locker you got a combination then there's certain number three number combinations right.
00:48:16 Right there's a certain three number combination that opens your lock and so narcissists are like okay well other people are kind of like machines I do want them to serve my needs and there are certain words that I can use to manipulate people to get what I want.
00:48:33 So if you want to know how a narcissist deals with people you look at how you deal with a computer right now if you want to go and browse some website you don't say to your computer oh look I'm sorry am I totally interrupting something I just I want to go and check this website out like a let me just go check this website out and then I'll let you get back to what you're doing if that's okay if you don't mind too much right like you would never say that to your computer right.
00:48:57 You just the computer is the tool for delivering pixels and sound to you right that the computer is just like you don't sit there to go I really want to play some ball to skate three sorry if you're in the middle of doing something but it would be really helpful to me if right.
00:49:14 You just oh I know start up steam or whatever I'm going to play and right you do you think about the computer just needs and what the computer prefers.
00:49:23 No you don't of course you don't right you turn on the TV you don't say like if you in a marriage or a friendship right you sit down with your wife you turn on the TV and you say is there anything you've heard of watching anything you'd like to watch anything whatever right.
00:49:44 But you don't include the TV in the discussion right you don't say to the TV what would you like to watch because the TV is just a dead mechanism for delivering what you want delivered does that make sense.
00:49:55 Yeah like trying to get chat GPT to get non PC answers yeah for sure for sure.
00:50:01 Dad sneeze so.
00:50:11 A.
00:50:14 A narcissist views other people as like machines or appliances.
00:50:23 That he needs in order to get his needs met.
00:50:28 Now how do you feel I mean we had this at the very beginning of this live stream right so how do you feel.
00:50:38 When technology mysteriously doesn't work.
00:50:46 When the technology doesn't work.
00:50:49 Yeah I hit the sneeze mute button so when the technology doesn't work incomprehensibly right what is just like that's really annoying and you just you get angry at the technology because the technology is just not giving you what you want right.
00:51:15 So you get angry at it and you you might thump it or whatever it is right.
00:51:29 So you just now if yelling at your computer worked to fix it would you yell at your computer right let's say you're home alone your computer is just not booting up fat allocation table error whatever it is right so if yelling at your computer worked would you yell at your computer.
00:51:55 In fact that would be the fastest and easiest way to get your computer to work would be to yell at it right.
00:52:07 If you threatened your computer and then your computer would work you with your computer right.
00:52:13 Right there's an old junk show called faulty towers is actually pretty funny and in it he's trying to get his car to work his car won't start he's in a big hurry somewhere so he's like I'm warning you I'm warning you and then he goes and gets a shrub or tree or a sapling and starts hitting his car.
00:52:33 Now of course it's funny because we all have that impulse but if yelling at your computer fixed it you would yell at your computer right.
00:52:43 Does that make sense like you would right that's how you'd fix it you better boot or you're going out the window okay it's booted okay right you'd keep it suspended over a bathtub right.
00:52:53 Okay so you understand that for the narcissist given that you're like a computer if you don't give the narcissist what he wants he yells at you and then you give him what he wants so yelling at the computer gets it to it fixes it right.
00:53:11 So if you're not serving the narcissist needs then you're broken like in the same way if this computer is not doing what you want it's broken.
00:53:19 So the narcissist yells at you or threatens you to get you to do what the narcissist wants in the same way that you would yell at your computer if that fix the computer being broken does that make sense.
00:53:43 Beating your car Basil faulty style or junkie style if beating your car with a sapling fix your car then you would be your car with a sapling right.
00:53:56 They don't get it just causes resentment.
00:54:00 What are you talking about if you threaten your computer and then it just works what do you care about the computers resentment.
00:54:09 The computers job is to do what you want right and if the computers not doing what you want it's broken.
00:54:16 I mean I remember way back in the day when I had an Atari 520 ST with the astonishing 256k or was it 512k of ram.
00:54:27 So they had these mice these mouse I had a mouse and like the mouse the mice now have these like little lasers and stuff like that work on everywhere.
00:54:36 But the mice back in the day had these like rubber balls and the rubber balls would get covered with lint and dust and crap and would stop working you have to take them out and clean them and all that kind of stuff really annoying.
00:54:50 I expect objects to do what I want I tell people what I need noxious expect objects and people to do what they want is that right that is not right.
00:54:58 Yeah that is not right sorry.
00:55:04 I've been troubleshooting my electronics all wrong apparently.
00:55:07 So sorry I just wanted to sort of clarify what it is that I'm saying because you know it's a little it's a little tricky because we all have empathy and we care about other people so it's a little tough to get this mindset.
00:55:17 So you say I expect others to do what I want I tell people what I need no telling people what you need does not make you a narcissist.
00:55:23 Does that make sense telling people what you need is not a narcissistic.
00:55:28 Right you understand right.
00:55:34 Telling people what you need does not make you a narcissist at all in fact that's the foundation of a relationship is to tell people what you need.
00:55:40 I need donations by the way so telling people what you need is the foundation of a relationship.
00:55:46 Nothing wrong with telling people what you need.
00:55:48 Narcissists expect objects and people to do what they want.
00:55:56 So when I was a kid you had these vacuum tube televisions that had us is like Megan thee Stallion and they had like antennae and you had to hold it just right and then it would the picture would roll and sometimes.
00:56:15 Now if you banged it then it would settle the vacuum tubes or settle the electron we've all tried this.
00:56:21 Right we've all tried this where you just thumb something right.
00:56:27 Does that make sense.
00:56:31 Yeah percussive maintenance that's right percussive maintenance.
00:56:36 I actually just did this the other day right so I had to get a new watch I use the watch quite a bit make sure my heart rate is good to track my sleep make sure my sleep is good I use it to track my exercise to make sure I'm exercising enough and walking enough.
00:56:50 I like the digital watches I think they're good I keep it on airplane mode because I don't like all that crap like radiation on my wrist but none of that I generally do that right.
00:56:57 Now I had a watch and it just wasn't charging like you know you know it wasn't charging I could kind of get it to charge halfway that kind of stuff right.
00:57:07 So then I ordered a new one and I said no no no I'll ship in the old one right I'll ship in the old one.
00:57:12 So I ordered the new watch and I got like 150 bucks for the old watch because I don't like keeping electronics around if I can at all get rid of them then I'll send them back and they can recycle them or whatever right it's much better.
00:57:24 So I'll send my electronics back.
00:57:26 Now you know what it's like when your watch is kind of faltering and you're like and I said does it turn on does it work can you touch it does it yes it all works you know charge is not doing that well but whatever right.
00:57:35 So I ordered the new watch I got 150 bucks off and then of course they say ship your old watch to us and then that's fine if you don't ship your old watch to us we got to charge you 150 bucks more or something like that right.
00:57:47 So I'm like come on baby you just have to charge one more time for daddy just charge one more time for daddy I get my 150 bucks back right.
00:57:56 Yes well what happened.
00:58:00 Well it's a brick watch ain't mighty mighty right so it won't charge it just died died off right so I can't ship the watch in they'll just have to charge me the 150 bucks.
00:58:10 So I've got nothing to lose the watch won't won't start it's brick right so what do you do with things that are brick you got nothing to lose just thump them.
00:58:20 Just no I'm not no it was a good deal I was being honest about it but things change between when I bought the watch so they'll just charge me the 150 right.
00:58:29 So I just I thumped it well what have I got to lose right.
00:58:35 What have I got to lose.
00:58:39 So yeah narcissists will get angry at people and they'll do what they need to do to get what they want.
00:58:47 Like let me give you another example right let me give you another example did it work now it didn't work it's brick so let me give you another example.
00:58:55 Now if you had a computer that wasn't working and if you were gentle and kind and whispered sweet nothings to that computer then it would start working what would you do.
00:59:10 No I'm not gonna send something in if I can't format it so.
00:59:19 If whispering sweet nothings hey man you're really really great computer I do think sometimes I take you for granted and I'm really sorry about that because it's really unfair listen I know that you work very hard for me you really do sacrifice I know there's other things that you want to be doing but you.
00:59:37 You go and visit those unholy sites that everyone tells me not to visit and you don't particularly mind when I wrap up all your innards in some sort of VPN cluster and.
00:59:49 I know you're kind of bored of some of the games that I play but you know I just really really appreciate that.
00:59:58 You're so supportive of what it is that I want to do it's almost like you don't have any needs of your own and I've really been taking advantage of that like I've absolutely been taking advantage of that I just sort of realized that I'm really sorry I had to come to this where you had to like say no you're not gonna do it just in order for me to realize how much you do you like my wife she cooks and then when she doesn't cook I'm like hey where's the food and you don't really appreciate it so I didn't.
01:00:19 Want to have it get to this point but it did and for that I'm doubly triply sorry and I'm really gonna I'm gonna really make it I'm not even gonna make an effort I'm absolutely gonna completely and totally promise I'm not gonna take you for granted anymore I'm absolutely.
01:00:35 Going to focus on what you need in fact let's totally reverse it you've been doing what I want for the last six months you tell me what you want we'll figure out you want what you want to do and.
01:00:45 I'm just I'm asking you on my knees I'm so sorry and we will we will do more of what you want to do we're gonna make it more equal I'm really gonna focus on your needs cuz I just can't I just kind of fell into myself you know maybe something to do with my mom or my dad but I just kind of fell into myself and.
01:01:04 I was just I got all solipsistic on everyone and I just I was only thinking about what I need so look if you could just do me a solid I just need to get that crypto wallet off your hard drive.
01:01:22 Yeah if that worked and then your computer would boot up would you would you do that is that what you would do if that got your laptop to boot up of course you would.
01:01:43 Give me my crypto.
01:01:47 So you would coax it you would we would you would beg you would plead like whatever it took.
01:01:55 Please baby please I just need my crypto back please.
01:02:00 My laptop thinks I'm cheating on it but I promise that the work laptop is just professional is not the newest CPU and multi screen that attracts me it's right.
01:02:08 That laptop at work means nothing to me is you baby you the only guy laptop it just make this work over there it's not personal I mean we go on business trips and sometimes we sleep in the same bed but it's not personal it's you baby you are the one I care about you right.
01:02:23 I mean you understand that this is how politicians work the population right they're just broken laptops that need to be coaxed into booting up right hey whatever you need baby whatever you need.
01:02:35 Actually closer to pimps but alright.
01:02:39 So to a narcissist other people are oddly defective machines that need to be coaxed into working.
01:02:48 Does that make sense to you.
01:03:00 I just wanna make sure where I dealt with a very intelligent narcissist oh it was a nightmare oh absolutely yeah yeah you up is down black is white you just get confused and far to nothing is real and all of that right like I had a call in.
01:03:13 Show the other day actually the call and show today that was pretty wild i had a call and show two days ago with some of you referencing it in the chat which is.
01:03:22 The father.
01:03:27 I'm.
01:03:31 The father of the family wanted more children his wife was forty four so he wanted to import a woman from zambia africa.
01:03:39 To be the mother of his future children while at the same time he spent almost time with almost no time with existing children and his son who was ten was on screens ten plus eight to ten hours a day right.
01:03:51 Now.
01:03:53 He said well i don't know what the right.
01:03:57 Amount of time is for a kid to be on a screen and then i said well you don't even work like you don't even have a job show you've had time to look it up on a way to get up.
01:04:06 Right and so that's.
01:04:09 Like it's in the moment he wants to say i didn't know i get that kiss that gets him off the hook and then when i say well you certainly had time to learn it's like what i have learned it's like but these two things can't if you say i did learn plus i don't know these contradictory but it doesn't matter.
01:04:24 You couldn't finish it you should finish it there's a great speech at the end about demonology.
01:04:32 It's a fine balance to keep a good relationship with a narcissist.
01:04:43 What.
01:04:45 Oh boy.
01:04:50 It's a fine balance to keep a good relationship with a narcissist you crazy.
01:04:56 Are you crazy what are you talking about it's a fine balance to keep a good relationship with a narcissist.
01:05:02 What relationship is no relationship.
01:05:12 There's no relationship guys you gotta trust me with these call and shows i'll bring it home i'll bring it home i'll bring it home.
01:05:20 I'll bring it home yeah trust me i know what i'm doing at this point.
01:05:24 Alright.
01:05:33 So to a narcissist you are a flesh machine that needs certain inputs in order to get the desired output.
01:05:43 Right so if screaming at a computer made it work faster and you desperately needed it to work faster if screaming at a computer made it work faster you'd scream at the computer because you need it to work faster right.
01:06:02 So when you look at a narcissist you're looking at somebody who's not looking back right you look at the narcissist.
01:06:13 They're only trying to puzzle out human nature to figure out the right combination.
01:06:19 To get what they want do you know the mythical manifestation of the narcissist.
01:06:31 Vampire sociopath do you know the historical manifestation of the myth manifestation of the narcissist.
01:06:38 A narcissist looking at his reflection yes so the narcissist was so beautiful he looked into reflection and so admired his own beauty that he died there no i'm talking about.
01:06:49 Not the mythological origin of the word but who is the archetype of the narcissist in mythology.
01:07:01 No vampire is more predatory.
01:07:04 The narcissist doesn't hate you.
01:07:07 So no not satan because satan hates you and wants to destroy your soul that's more sociopathic no the narcissist.
01:07:24 Is not cruel he just does what works.
01:07:30 I'm not a vampire don't have a reflection so the manifestation in mythology of the narcissist is a wizard is a magic user is a sorcerer does that sort of make sense.
01:07:43 Because the sorcerer uses language to manipulate physical reality they use spells.
01:07:55 They use spells so that they use words to get what they want.
01:08:01 They call spells right i mean spell spelling right you can get that so these magic words to get what they want so.
01:08:11 In.
01:08:13 Give me some common spells and doesn't have to be dnd right so give me some.
01:08:23 Give me some common spells that you've heard of doesn't have to be dungeons and dragons or whatever give me some common spells that you've heard of that show up right.
01:08:34 Lawyers.
01:08:45 No sociopath cares enough about you to want to create another sociopath by being cruel to you the narcissist doesn't care enough about you.
01:08:52 Okay so there's a love spell right so there's a love potion there's a love spell like i did a call and show with a guy whose stepmother boiled her own underwear in a man's soup and then had him eat it so that he would fall in love with her right.
01:09:06 So there's a love spell right now what is the love spell for the narcissist.
01:09:12 Yeah it's a duction right praise i love you you're the best thing that ever happened you're wonderful you're blah blah blah right.
01:09:26 A fireball so fireball is collective punishment right so fireball is like white privilege a fireball is a big splash damage right so fireball is when you aim at someone but hit the group.
01:09:39 And so that is collective judgment collective punishment right.
01:09:42 Like all the leftists who complained about colonization but never complained about stalin taking over half of europe right because that was pro communist right so.
01:09:51 Does that sort of make sense the love bombing happens as well for sure.
01:09:55 Right there's a charm spell there's a possession spell where you possess the other person somebody mentioned teleportation so do you know what do you know what teleportation is.
01:10:08 Teleportation is gaslighting by dismantling your sense of reality i'm here i'm there something here something there right it's gaslighting.
01:10:22 In order to dismantle your sense of reality like gaslighting literally comes from a movie where a guy kept rearranging things in the house and pretending he didn't in order to drive the woman crazy.
01:10:32 So.
01:10:51 What was the wife's particular sin in choosing that guy.
01:10:53 Well i don't know when one of the things i would go back and do again if i could was that they had both retired in their forties and so i assume that he was very wealthy i assume it but him could be her but i assume he was very wealthy.
01:11:03 Invisibility right.
01:11:08 So an invisibility spell is that you can move around with nobody seeing you right.
01:11:20 So you're invisible and that's because nobody can see your motives because people who aren't narcissists think that the narcissist is like them.
01:11:30 Right.
01:11:35 Non-narcissist thinks the narcissist is like them and therefore the narcissist's motivations are invisible which is why there's invisibility in magic does that make sense.
01:11:59 Shapeshifting.
01:12:00 That's because the narcissist can change tactics no matter what they can go from i mean if you've ever dealt with a narcissist they can go from anger to cajoling to wheeling to self pity to.
01:12:13 Flattery like they can just change in a moment right.
01:12:17 Because you just a lock and they just changing keys out is anger open it shit when anger doesn't open it okay what about flattery how should flattery doesn't open it okay guilt no guilt doesn't open it okay self pity that's not opening it like so they just.
01:12:32 Right the just trying all of these different.
01:12:34 Different locks different keys in the lock that's all there is right so the shapeshifting is that just changing all over the place right.
01:12:45 Oh your frequent fantasy as a child was that I was invisible right.
01:12:48 Right because you are heavily manipulated right yeah alpha to victim in the blink of an eye like you know you've seen this a million times where there's a criminal some bad guys and really bad guy and he's dominating because he's got the guns he loses the gun is like.
01:13:04 There's no continuity in personality right.
01:13:13 A potion vs a spell.
01:13:15 So the spell is when you can seduce the woman through words the potion is when you have to get a drunk or drugger.
01:13:39 A potion is when you make a broth out of panties yeah it's really something isn't it.
01:13:42 They don't cast a lot of bless.
01:13:45 What a bless spell is if you have a curse put on you by a kind of wizard which is the curse say of original sin then you have a bless spell right.
01:13:54 Is the panty voodoo podcast up.
01:13:58 Why there's a sentence I thought I would say today I know nobody will be it will be.
01:14:03 Yeah full bill Cosby.
01:14:06 I'm.
01:14:10 So yeah you can't you can't have a relationship with a narcissist because the narcissist doesn't recognize you as having needs of your own.
01:14:26 Or the narcissist may say this person has needs of their own and therefore I will satisfy those needs just to get what I want.
01:14:36 Right like like.
01:14:39 A lock has a need for the key to work right so you'll quote satisfy the locks needs in order to get what you want.
01:14:48 I tell a can use this is like oh tell a can use this all that was sorry that was easy so tell a can use this is that a woman bats her eyes and someone gives her money.
01:14:58 Right a woman is sexy she addresses up and men by her drinks men by her dinner men take her on so so her her her seductiveness moves resources in the world to what's her or it could be of course voting and getting resources that way right.
01:15:16 Is this I want to make sure that I'm is this useful and helpful to sort of understand.
01:15:20 Where people are coming from like they'll recognize your needs.
01:15:25 Because they know okay well I need to satisfy like this woman likes to be flattered she has a need to be flattered so I'll flatter her to get what I want.
01:15:33 This is an awesome explanation for narcissism good I'm glad it's helpful.
01:15:41 Somebody says this is an interesting conversation for me because earlier I was reflecting on people who put curses on others and I thought to myself everything.
01:15:49 Everything you put out comes back to you so why spend energy cursing people when you can pray for good things in your life.
01:15:56 Everything you put out comes back to you what does that mean.
01:16:00 Is it possible to have been a narcissist and then be cured it seems like how I used to be.
01:16:10 I don't know I don't I don't know.
01:16:15 I put nothing past philosophy honestly I there's nothing that I say philosophy can't do right.
01:16:23 Why do people hang with a narcissist is it because they don't know they're a narcissist or did they get some sort of value from it.
01:16:29 Okay hit me with the why if you don't know why people hang out with narcissists.
01:16:38 Let me just get caught up here hit me with the why if you what goes around comes around I don't know what that means you think that there's justice is bound into the physics of the universe.
01:16:47 What's the psychology of the victims of narcissists.
01:16:52 There are no adult victims of narcissists what do you mean there are childhood victims of narcissists but there are no adult victims of narcissists.
01:17:03 Great conversation always love these shows well thank you can I really really appreciate that and if you are finding value in this and I'm telling you this shit will save your life one day it will save because you'll see this you'll see someone someone's going to be circling you like a shark and they're going to prey on you they're going to clamp on you going to take everything you've got half your soul and half your shit this conversation will save your life.
01:17:27 I'm not kidding about that.
01:17:31 So yeah if you'd like to donate that would be excellent because I work hard for this stuff this is a lot of battle scars this knowledge is a lot of battle scars.
01:17:39 Serving a narcissist is an addiction but using the word addiction doesn't answer much.
01:17:44 Is justice like Newton's first I read that as juice Newton playing with the Queen of Hearts it's good time actually all right.
01:17:55 Plan to donate more at the start of the month thank you I appreciate that I appreciate that.
01:18:05 Why do people hang with narcissists well what do you guys think people I mean let's make this a convo right what do you guys think people hand and of course I don't have any big answers I'm just my theories right.
01:18:16 Why do people hang with narcissists?
01:18:24 Because they flatter them but most people can know what real and fake flattery is.
01:18:29 That spontaneous mysterious charismatic etc.
01:18:33 If you want to hear an encapsulated narcissistic conversation listen to the doors doing the old van Morrison song Gloria.
01:18:49 Right so jim morrison is a singer pretends to be interested in the girl oh yeah where did you go to school oh yeah what are your hobbies what do you like.
01:19:02 Well now that we know each other just a little better why don't you come over here and make me feel alright.
01:19:10 I think these are all great answers but I don't think they're true or accurate at the bottom.
01:19:30 Okay so obviously you hang with the narcissist because you grew up with a narcissist.
01:19:47 Now with a narcissist if you have a narcissist preying on you it's always a game of cat and mouse.
01:19:57 Always a game of cat and mouse in other words the narcissist constantly wants things from you sometimes those things will coincide with what you want but a lot of times they won't and sometimes they'll be directly at your expense.
01:20:09 Now if you grew up with a narcissist your identity becomes managing narcissism.
01:20:18 That's what you do like your identity is managing narcissism like you don't have any shape of your own you're like water poured into a container right you poured into a bowl water becomes shape of a bowl you poured into a beaker it's a beaker a cup a cup.
01:20:32 So your entire identity is managing a narcissist giving them just enough that they don't attack you but not so much.
01:20:41 That you lose the will to live and i literally mean that you lose the will to live because of all you are supplying the needs to a narcissistic person you don't exist like you just won't like one day you just be like fuck it i'm not getting out of bed i'd like i'm not doing this anymore so you have to manage that.
01:20:56 Now there's also a dance with the narcissist so the narcissist will.
01:21:04 Take things from you but you're a crop right so they don't want to totally destroy the soil like they don't want to over harvest from you because then you're toast right.
01:21:14 Does this make sense.
01:21:15 Like you want to ride a horse but not to the point where the horse's heart explodes and it dies.
01:21:25 So all you do is manage the narcissist that's your whole identity that's the only sense of power or authority or identity or purpose or life that's your life your life is managing a narcissist right.
01:21:38 Now if your life is managing a narcissist what happens.
01:21:44 Without a narcissist what happens if the narcissist is not around what happens if you have no narcissists around you.
01:21:51 And your entire identity your entire job everything you been conditioned to for twenty or thirty years is managing the fucking narcissist what happens without a narcissist.
01:21:59 Yeah you feel like you don't exist you feel like you're falling you feel panic anxiety and all of the true feelings the rage that you have a narcissist will come out.
01:22:12 No I don't think paranoia you could be right obviously I don't particularly think paranoia doesn't mean I'm right I just paranoia is a whole different different thing and we should get into paranoia at something as a topic at some point.
01:22:25 But I was making note of that this is a great.
01:22:28 So your whole life is managing the narcissist.
01:22:37 Without the narcissist what happens is you begin to feel the rage towards the narcissist now.
01:22:46 What happens if you're around a narcissist and you feel rage towards the narcissist.
01:22:55 What happens?
01:23:00 They attack you that's right.
01:23:03 How dark do we want to go here.
01:23:10 How dark.
01:23:15 We can go really dark here because it's a dark place man this is a dark place.
01:23:20 I want to make sure I respect your desire for this.
01:23:31 Is dark okay I just want to want to check all right.
01:23:44 How many computers have you thrown out.
01:23:51 I got a thing for me it's probably at least 15.
01:23:57 Over the years I have no idea right how many computers have you disposed off.
01:24:03 I'm talking since my first computer when I was like eleven whatever I'd some.
01:24:09 You've only had one cpu.
01:24:18 Thanks jared appreciate that.
01:24:23 All right how many cell phones have you.
01:24:28 Tossed in a box tossed in a drawer tossed out recycled whatever it is that you've done right.
01:24:35 How many yeah let's let's do cell phones we'll do cell phones separately.
01:24:38 I mean I hang on to cell phones until they like won't charge at all like you unplug them but you can watch the bar going down.
01:24:46 Right.
01:24:48 10.
01:24:56 8 at least a dozen.
01:24:58 Yeah.
01:24:58 Yeah.
01:25:00 Right.
01:25:01 Now.
01:25:07 Do you ever think that when you have a piece of electronics that doesn't serve your needs anymore doesn't work or doesn't do what you want it to do you ever think oh gosh you know I should give it a good home I should.
01:25:16 Try and make it comfortable I should you know put it in in some pillows and and make sure it gets some electricity from time to time would you just toss it in a fucking draw and forget about it.
01:25:26 Yeah you just toss it out right.
01:25:36 You just toss it up.
01:25:38 So.
01:25:42 Please understand the danger you're in around narcissists.
01:25:50 Please understand that when your machines don't serve your needs anymore you kill them.
01:26:05 They are completely fucking disposable to you.
01:26:09 Right.
01:26:15 You know this is what this is all the toy story is about right this is why toy story is so sentimental to people.
01:26:29 Toy story is the toys begging to be alive to a narcissistic parent it's children begging to be alive to a narcissistic parent.
01:26:39 I put a spell on you.
01:26:46 You are completely fucking disposable to the narcissist because the narcissist only cares about you so to speak if you serve his or her needs.
01:26:57 If you don't serve the narcissist needs you're completely disposable.
01:27:08 Narcissist seek object to exploit no no no no no oh my god you're still trying to judge the narcissist like they're you they're not seeking an object to exploit.
01:27:24 I didn't buy a watch to exploit it.
01:27:27 The toys can't give feedback and it can only have preferences when Andy isn't around.
01:27:34 Yep Andy comes around they all pretend to be inanimate.
01:27:37 This is like siblings who give each other some comfort and playtime until dad comes home and then they got to be fucking dead receptacles of dad's needs right.
01:27:54 So do you understand the danger that you're in with the narcissist that you supply the narcissist needs or you die.
01:28:02 I think of the think of this evolutionarily speaking narcissism was the default human position is the default human psychology got to listen to the French Revolution presentation right the stages of parenting.
01:28:18 You're around a narcissist you serve their fucking needs or you die like evolutionarily speaking if you didn't serve your parents needs and they're narcissists they just they wouldn't bother taking care of you or protecting you or feeding you or right.
01:28:31 Does this make sense.
01:28:34 Narcissists don't think of destroying you any more than you think of murdering your cell phones.
01:28:47 Like.
01:28:56 You have to fantasize that they hate you to imagine you have a relationship does it make sense.
01:29:13 If your parents don't want to take care of you evolutionarily speaking you're dead.
01:29:16 I think of Harry Potter right Harry Potter doesn't serve the needs of uncle Dursley or whatever his name is right he doesn't serve the need so he's just locked in a closet.
01:29:27 Now of course the story of Harry Potter is the story of a boy who's locked in a closet for so long he goes insane he's put in an insane asylum because he's violent towards.
01:29:38 The fat boy he's put in an insane asylum and his insanity is that the insane asylum is a wizarding school right so he's tortured and mentally destroyed to the point and there's significant mental health issues.
01:29:51 In the writers family so.
01:29:54 The story of Harry Potter is a story of a boy who's so abused he becomes violent and then he's locked up in a mental asylum but he pretends to himself his psychosis is that it's a wizarding school.
01:30:06 The penny dropped good.
01:30:09 Any idea what age you think a narcissist is born.
01:30:16 We're all born narcissists narcissism is a continuation it's a form of a narcissism is a form of neoteny neoteny is when you retain childhood characteristics up into adulthood.
01:30:28 Like women are neotenous right there a smaller like children they keep their hair like children they have higher voices like children they don't grow beards like children so children women are neotenous and.
01:30:37 Narcissism is just infancy forever.
01:30:42 It's not personal yeah it's not mean do you think my mother hated me.
01:30:50 In my view my mother was not sadistic she was just a narcissist.
01:30:55 Right.
01:30:55 Well Voldemort is the ultimate expression of a lack of self knowledge.
01:31:08 Like he.
01:31:10 He has no nose he knows nothing.
01:31:15 Literally is noseless he lacks knowledge right.
01:31:25 Is that a relief in a way for you Steph that's a huge relief.
01:31:27 You're thinking you're hated by the narcissist is a way of imagining there's a relationship.
01:31:33 So yeah we're all born narcissists and that's perfectly right and healthy like you wouldn't want a baby sitting there saying well i'm going to die if I don't get any food but I really don't want to wake up my mom like your baby just expresses his needs the baby doesn't really think and I think I think my daughter was about six months of age when she began feeding me back like she recognized that food is pleasurable and you wanted to.
01:31:53 So yeah we're all born narcissists in my view right so if you don't grow up you're both narcissistic and socialistic.
01:31:58 Now socialism is the government has to be my family because my family sucked right.
01:32:15 And so narcissism is devilish in a way because what it does is it lures you into a kind of innocent exploitation of others.
01:32:23 I've got a whole show on harry potter you should watch it.
01:32:28 So what narcissism does is you exploit others.
01:32:34 Nobody cares for you you don't care for others it's kill or be killed exploit or be exploited use others or be used yourself.
01:32:43 And so what happens is you exploit others as a means of survival and then you feel tremendous and accelerating guilt and then what happens is you went sealed in a tomb of narcissism because when you've exploited others for a certain amount of time particularly when you do it as an adult and in particular against children what happens is.
01:33:00 To recognize the existence of other people would be to face a bottomless sense of guilt at having exploited others.
01:33:12 And so you get trapped in narcissism because you are staving off suicide by staving off the existence of others to recognize the existence of others will be to recognize that you've harmed and exploited others you become an abuser.
01:33:32 And you won't want to live.
01:33:40 Narcissism starts as a survival mechanism.
01:33:43 And it ends up as a survival mechanism it's just survival all the way through but it's a different kind of survival right.
01:33:50 And this is why people say well what's the motive of a narcissist like you'll never know you'll never know.
01:34:05 You'll never know because the only person who can tell you the truth is the narcissist and the narcissist has no relationship to the truth.
01:34:12 And it again it doesn't it's not even exploitation you can look at it from the outside and say oh that person's exploiting and all of that.
01:34:21 So why do people hang with narcissists because they don't want to face the death anxiety provoked within them by defying the narcissist in the same way that if your phone was alive it wouldn't want to stop working for you because if it stops working for you you're putting it in a fucking landfill.
01:34:47 People hang with narcissists so that they won't face the death anxiety that they would experience by defying the narcissist because to defy the narcissist is to die evolutionarily historically to defy the narcissist is to die.
01:35:09 Does this make sense and of course what was the chance of escaping narcissism throughout almost all the human history with the faint glimmer of self and identity and reason and virtue where to land on someone what was the.
01:35:18 There was no escape every time I self attack I say hi mom and it just stops it's like looking a monster in the eye thanks for that great show last week beautiful well done.
01:35:29 I dated a narcissist who would actually recite his own lies to himself like it was total madness.
01:35:35 If you imagine your phone was alive would it want to defy your wishes no would it want to stop working for you no because you'll kill it you'll murder your phone if it doesn't serve your needs.
01:36:04 Why do people hang with narcissists because it's the only way they know how to not die it's the only way they know how to not be killed or abandoned.
01:36:11 Do you make sense it's like saying why do people eat it's the only way they know how to live it's the only way they can live.
01:36:24 That's some sick shit well you can say so and I understand that.
01:36:27 Do they have the ghost of a narcissist in their head that they're protected by keeping a narcissist in their life I think that may be a bit over complicated.
01:36:37 Defying the narcissism sorry defying the narcissist is to die.
01:36:43 So why do people hang with narcissists because to defy the narcissist is to die.
01:36:49 That's their equation.
01:36:53 My father could talk for hours without a word from me narcissist yeah he wants to talk.
01:37:05 Amazing as always socialism and narcissism summed up beautifully.
01:37:14 Socialism is the desire to avoid the pain of childhood by recreating the status parent as good parent as healthy parent as caring providing parent.
01:37:24 And so the state of course has a heavy investment in having bad childhoods.
01:37:34 The state is heavily invested in having bad childhoods because when people grow up with bad childhoods they have unmet needs from their parents which they can then be redirected through sophistry to pursue the state right the state will protect me the state will feed me give me health care take care of me all the stuff your parents should have done.
01:37:48 Yeah my mother would would sort of sit and talk to me about all these weird crazy things that were going on in her dating life or social life or this or that the other.
01:37:58 And it was just like yeah I wasn't there.
01:38:02 She didn't want to feel crazy so she didn't want to talk to herself but I wasn't there for her.
01:38:07 She just needed someone breathing in the room like.
01:38:11 If I do a show and the microphone hasn't worked I'm kind of annoyed right.
01:38:19 Because nobody can listen to it so I need a microphone otherwise I'm kind of a crazy guy talking to myself right.
01:38:30 And so they need someone to listen so that they don't feel crazy but they don't want you to give them feedback right.
01:38:36 My wife just ended a 30 year friendship after going into business with a narcissist amazing.
01:38:44 That we didn't realize it after all these years it wasn't until her ex-friend's control was questioned.
01:38:57 I remember your story of you making her tea or something and she didn't even drink it.
01:39:00 No this is when my mother she turned four I didn't realize this too much later she turned forty and she was still unmarried and that of course is a you know her looks were fading and she couldn't give man kids anymore so.
01:39:14 Her sexual market value was plummeting.
01:39:16 And so she just wouldn't get out of bed she was so depressed about turning forty and I would make her tea in the morning she wouldn't get out of bed I'd make her tea and toast in the morning and put it by her bed and I cleared away at lunch when I came home from school and then make just when get out of bed.
01:39:27 So she wasn't rude she was just.
01:39:31 Cratering because she had made no plans for the second half of her life and that's really when her mental illness began to grow and really consumer and not mental illness or corruption.
01:39:43 As a rule I know if I feel a strong sense of familiarity with a new person that probably a narcissist.
01:39:53 Would you like to know how to spot him?
01:39:57 Helpful useful life tip to know how to spot him?
01:40:01 I want to check and see if this is a value to people.
01:40:28 Ok so how much do you feel like yourself in your closest relationships plus ten to minus ten minus ten you have to lie about everything plus ten you can be completely yourself.
01:40:36 So how much do you feel.
01:40:39 Yourself in your closest relationship.
01:40:44 Are your closest relationships.
01:40:48 Covert narcissist are hard no very easy.
01:40:53 It's all very easy.
01:40:55 Nine good.
01:41:00 They're also charming at first.
01:41:03 Now it's totally obvious totally obvious plus ten excellent nine to ten plus ten seven okay good right.
01:41:12 You have no defense against a narcissist if you don't have good relationships in your life.
01:41:19 You have no defense against a narcissist if you don't have good relationships in your life.
01:41:24 Do you know why.
01:41:24 You're wide open man you are splayed open you're a sacrificial lamb.
01:41:31 You're an Aztec kid in the altar half drugged about to lose their intestines.
01:41:37 You have no protection against a narcissist if you don't have good relationships.
01:41:45 Because you don't have the fundamental equation you need for security in this life.
01:41:55 Because good people will point them out.
01:41:57 No.
01:41:58 Because those you're saved whether they're around or not.
01:42:02 You can just meet someone at a party you none of your friends are around and you'll know immediately.
01:42:06 If you don't have good relationships and you meet a narcissist you won't even know it because you won't have anything to compare it to.
01:42:16 And you got to have good relationships and you've got to pursue those good relationships you've got to maintain those good relationships and you got to engage in those good relationships.
01:42:24 So that when you meet a narcissist you've got something to compare it to.
01:42:28 Good people are a moat.
01:42:37 To keep the barbarians out of your castle.
01:42:48 So when you have a good relationship and you're honest and you're direct right and you can speak your mind and you don't have to self censor and you want to share then you come across someone and you say holy shit I really don't feel like myself around this person.
01:43:05 I really feel like I've got a self censor I really get a sense of caution around this person.
01:43:09 Something's off right.
01:43:10 You've got something to compare it to.
01:43:17 No you can't blame the.
01:43:18 Can't blame the narcissist they're a machine.
01:43:26 They're a robot.
01:43:27 You can blame yourself as an adult not as a child you can blame yourself as an adult.
01:43:33 For not having the human shield of better relationships.
01:43:38 Blaming the narcissist is way too easy.
01:43:42 It's like blaming a lion when you've rubbed marinade all over yourself and laying down in the Serengeti.
01:43:47 Dave says I'm so used to having to self censor.
01:43:51 Yeah so you don't notice the difference.
01:43:53 Funny you say this because looking back all the narcissists I dated eventually demanded to end my relationships with other people.
01:44:01 I recall one guy actually threatened to insult a member of a church choir I was in so I quit the choir out of fear.
01:44:06 I'm sorry to hear that.
01:44:07 Yeah I'm sorry to hear that.
01:44:15 This person's a narcissist compared to what?
01:44:18 Compared to a non-narcissist but if you don't have non-narcissists in your life you won't be able to identify the narcissist.
01:44:25 Did you see what I mean?
01:44:28 I remember you saying good people are a shield against the bad people of course and it happens at a very instinctual level.
01:44:42 It happens at a very instinctual level.
01:44:46 This is why it's so essential to have good people in your life and to be the good people in other people's life because we all have to go like a fucking Roman phalanx around the world back to back.
01:45:03 Shields up captain.
01:45:06 To keep the hordes of bats and predators and carnivores and scavengers away from our resources joy happiness virtue in life.
01:45:16 A narcissist is created by parents who spoil their children.
01:45:19 What does spoil children mean?
01:45:21 Nobody knows what that means.
01:45:22 What does it mean to spoil your children?
01:45:24 Help me understand.
01:45:25 To give them stuff instead of attention?
01:45:27 What do you mean?
01:45:29 Spoil your children.
01:45:31 Dave says I moved to another area of the country by myself and they all came out of the woodwork trying to get control of my property.
01:45:44 I shed most of them into the second round of people seem to be better.
01:45:47 Good.
01:45:47 No don't answer.
01:45:53 Lurid seraphim.
01:45:55 Don't answer until you get definitions.
01:45:57 Spoil their children.
01:45:59 What does that mean?
01:45:59 Not hitting them?
01:46:00 I mean nobody knows what that means.
01:46:02 It's not an objective definition.
01:46:04 What does it mean to spoil your children?
01:46:05 Nobody.
01:46:08 I mean getting things without earning a consequence or understanding.
01:46:13 Golden child syndrome.
01:46:16 I don't know what that means.
01:46:17 Getting things.
01:46:18 Love.
01:46:19 I don't know.
01:46:22 It's hard to define.
01:46:28 I mean, God, you guys are too smart for this.
01:46:32 Like I'm sorry.
01:46:33 I've got to just, I got to honor your higher selves.
01:46:35 You're too smart for this.
01:46:37 How do you create a narcissistic person?
01:46:41 Well, you threaten to end them explicitly or implicitly if they don't serve your needs as children.
01:46:47 You serve my needs or to hell with you.
01:46:50 That's like, I don't know what golden child syndrome is.
01:46:55 I don't need this stuff.
01:46:56 Right.
01:46:56 Narcissists are made by ignoring the kids or by giving, only giving attention when they "earn" it.
01:47:06 No.
01:47:07 Narcissists are made by receiving explicit or implicit death threats if they don't serve the needs of their parents.
01:47:15 Because you're saying ignoring the kids.
01:47:18 Well, lots of kids who are ignored, they don't become narcissists.
01:47:24 I've heard spoiling is when you give them something without them knowing what it takes to get that.
01:47:28 But we're talking about very early life.
01:47:31 What are you going to lecture your kid about the fact that mommy had to go to the grocery stores to get enough food so that the kid can get milk?
01:47:38 Death threats.
01:47:39 Can you elaborate?
01:47:40 Dave already did this.
01:47:41 With the cell phone.
01:47:44 Remember the cell phone?
01:47:45 If the cell phone doesn't serve your needs, you throw it out.
01:47:47 You guys are wondering like way off what we've talked about.
01:47:58 Yeah.
01:47:59 Threat of being discarded.
01:48:00 Yeah.
01:48:01 You don't please me.
01:48:02 You don't get food.
01:48:03 You don't please me.
01:48:04 I don't protect you from predators.
01:48:05 You don't please me.
01:48:05 You sleep on the outside of the camp.
01:48:07 You don't please me.
01:48:08 You sleep beyond the fire.
01:48:09 You don't sleep me.
01:48:10 I don't stay up to protect you.
01:48:11 You don't, you don't, you don't please me.
01:48:13 It's a survival mechanism.
01:48:15 Sure.
01:48:16 Yeah.
01:48:16 I had those lectures.
01:48:20 I felt very guilty for existing.
01:48:22 Ah, so narcissism is likely found through a family's lineage.
01:48:32 Makes sense.
01:48:33 Oh, this is mildly annoying.
01:48:38 Just absorb the lesson.
01:48:43 You don't have to add to it right away.
01:48:45 You've got enough to learn by absorbing this lesson.
01:48:47 I mean, it's like I haven't, you guys are just theorizing about narcissism.
01:48:57 Like I didn't just talk about it for an hour straight.
01:49:00 Now you don't have to agree with me, but you're completely ignoring what I said.
01:49:04 Yeah.
01:49:06 I had a girlfriend who was threatened to break up if I didn't know what she wanted.
01:49:08 Sure.
01:49:09 Yeah.
01:49:10 And you're going to break up with your cell phone if it doesn't do what
01:49:12 you're going to toss it out.
01:49:13 Right.
01:49:13 Yeah.
01:49:13 Like, tell me if, I mean, haven't I just dropped a whole bunch of like emotional
01:49:20 and logic bombs on you and you're all like, "Yes, but let me theorize more
01:49:23 about narcissism."
01:49:24 I've just illuminated half the planet and you're like, "But let's look at the
01:49:30 other half quick, right away."
01:49:32 You're avoiding the emotional impact of the lesson by getting really,
01:49:39 really intellectual on it.
01:49:43 Does this make sense?
01:49:44 You're trying to avoid the impact of this knowledge by trying to think beyond
01:49:53 it, outside it, running away from the light.
01:49:55 Right.
01:49:57 You honestly, you could spend six months on just what I've said here and you
01:50:01 wouldn't be done and you're all like, "But, but, but, but what about this?
01:50:04 And, but spoiling and disintegrated, but this and that."
01:50:06 Right.
01:50:07 Just remember the cell phone.
01:50:09 You're just a thing to be used.
01:50:11 And if you don't serve their needs, you're disposable.
01:50:14 I hate narcissists.
01:50:17 When I ignore my gut, I find myself knee deep in narcissistic crap.
01:50:20 You hate narcissists.
01:50:23 But narcissists are NPCs.
01:50:29 Do you hate NPCs in video games?
01:50:31 Going back to unactionable theories.
01:50:39 Well, it's a way of, "I've got to understand more."
01:50:41 And it's a way of just ignoring what you've just seen over the last hour.
01:50:45 I don't really see them the same as NPCs.
01:50:50 Okay.
01:50:51 I'm happy to, I could be, I could be completely wrong, of course.
01:50:53 I mean, it's always, it's always a constant threat when you're at the edge,
01:50:57 frothing edge of knowledge like this.
01:50:58 Do you think narcissists by the time they're adults, right?
01:51:04 By the time they're, let's say a narcissist at the age of 25 or 30,
01:51:08 I would just hit you, Doug.
01:51:09 Let's say like a narcissist at 30.
01:51:12 Does a narcissist at 30 have free will?
01:51:15 You see them as master manipulators.
01:51:26 NPCs are sleepwalkers followers.
01:51:29 No, NPCs aren't sleepwalkers.
01:51:31 NPCs can start wars.
01:51:34 They're not sleepwalkers.
01:51:35 You can say master manipulators, but that's having a moral judgment about
01:51:44 something which is not a moral relationship.
01:51:47 You see, if you imbue the narcissist with moral judgment, with a moral
01:51:54 evaluation, then you're subject to their moral disapproval.
01:51:59 My mother never judged me morally.
01:52:08 Never.
01:52:09 She might have yelled at me or called me names or said I was a bad kid or whatever.
01:52:13 She never judged me morally.
01:52:14 Any more than, than if you just throw something away from you in frustration,
01:52:20 you think it's evil.
01:52:21 It's just really annoying and it's a terrible situation, right?
01:52:26 I mean, when a tennis player smashes his racket, does he think the racket is evil?
01:52:31 Is he morally judging it?
01:52:33 No, he's just banging it out of his frustration.
01:52:35 Every adult without cognitive deficits has free will.
01:52:39 They are responsible for their actions.
01:52:41 Are you talking legally or like in practical terms?
01:52:48 I mean, don't we throw people in jail because they can't be reasoned with
01:53:00 because we say that they have no functional free will to prevent further
01:53:03 recurrence of crimes?
01:53:04 Just, am I wrong?
01:53:05 I mean, the guy in the guy with the 90% approval, Rainey Gaddal-Salvador, who
01:53:10 threw 50,000 people in prison and reduced the murder rate by like 90% or something.
01:53:16 Isn't he throwing those people in prison because they have no functional free
01:53:19 will to prevent repetition of crimes?
01:53:21 This is why recidivism rates or recurring of crime is so high.
01:53:26 If you can reason with someone and talk them out of immoral actions,
01:53:31 you don't throw them in jail.
01:53:32 Isn't throwing them in jail saying you have no capacity to
01:53:35 prevent repetition of crimes?
01:53:44 I'm glad.
01:53:56 Thank you for the tip.
01:53:58 I mean, don't we view criminals as machines in a way, but the narcissists
01:54:06 have selective free will, so they're responsible.
01:54:08 Boy, Douglas, you really do make some very complex arguments as if they're
01:54:13 just absolutely true.
01:54:14 Yeah, but narcissists have selective free will, so they're responsible.
01:54:17 What on earth does that mean?
01:54:19 What's your definition of free will?
01:54:20 What's your definition of narcissism?
01:54:22 How will we tell what selective versus non-selective is?
01:54:24 If I just said, "Narcissists are like cell phone.
01:54:28 Thanks.
01:54:29 That's all.
01:54:29 I'm out of here."
01:54:30 It must be interesting to see two narcissists interact.
01:54:35 Well, they interact a lot because they both have things that each other need.
01:54:39 And right.
01:54:40 They'll probably be more threatening than bribery because they
01:54:43 understand the game, right?
01:54:44 Yeah.
01:54:48 Mental hospitals is when someone's beyond reason, right?
01:54:50 They have no functional free will left.
01:55:08 But Douglas, I didn't mean to be mean or anything.
01:55:11 I'm certainly happy to hear more about this selective free will idea.
01:55:14 I just, I don't know.
01:55:17 Like narcissists will say that you have free will, right?
01:55:20 Like a narcissist will say that you're responsible for your actions.
01:55:23 So the narcissist will say, "I believe in free will.
01:55:27 You had free will.
01:55:29 You did something wrong.
01:55:30 Therefore, you owe me."
01:55:31 Right?
01:55:32 So a narcissist will blame a five-year-old for taking money from his purse.
01:55:38 Or from her purse, right?
01:55:39 And she'll say, "Well, you had, you have free will.
01:55:43 As a five-year-old, you have free will and you are morally responsible
01:55:46 for your actions and all of that."
01:55:47 But that's just because saying that people have free will and that they're
01:55:51 morally responsible for their actions is a way to control them and
01:55:54 get them to do what you want.
01:55:55 They don't actually believe in free will.
01:55:58 They just know that the words free will are a magic key that opens and
01:56:03 unlocks other people's subjugation and therefore their resources.
01:56:05 Right?
01:56:06 In this case, the resource is obedience.
01:56:08 Right?
01:56:08 They never take on that responsibility themselves.
01:56:13 Well, of course not.
01:56:14 Any more than you want to become a cell phone.
01:56:18 Right?
01:56:19 I mean, you, you can't use things if they're like you.
01:56:23 So you have to dehumanize them in order to use them.
01:56:26 If you thought that your cell phone had preferences and a free will,
01:56:29 then you'd have to negotiate.
01:56:31 Right?
01:56:31 They will give you a little attention and expect you to worship them.
01:56:36 Oh no, see, you still keep bringing all this moral stuff into it.
01:56:41 They'll do what it takes to get the resources from you.
01:56:45 Right?
01:56:47 If you watch a toddler, you put a cupcake on a shelf, the toddler will
01:56:52 just get some books and try to climb the shelf to get the, they just want the
01:56:56 cupcake, like you're angry and enraged and frustrated and blah, right?
01:57:01 Free will is clouded in my head.
01:57:04 Now that's, I mean, I appreciate that.
01:57:05 It's a con, I mean, I've got a whole three part series on free will I did some years
01:57:08 ago.
01:57:09 They, but they will never push their actions or interests through the same
01:57:14 moral filter they use to bludgeon.
01:57:16 Well, of course not.
01:57:17 Of course.
01:57:20 I mean, that's like saying that lions aren't vegetarians, right?
01:57:25 Lions will eat meat, but they don't like to be eaten.
01:57:27 Well, of course not.
01:57:27 Lions eat, like to eat zebras.
01:57:30 They don't like to be eaten by hyenas.
01:57:31 Right?
01:57:34 But what about if my mom was very vicious and cruel and sadistic, and she always
01:57:36 tried to get me to lower my defenses, to get my true self and then attack me in
01:57:40 some disgusting way, but that's not a narcissist.
01:57:43 I mean, you could say her need is to be cruel and all of that, but the narcissist
01:57:46 is just, it's an amoral machinery to get what you want.
01:57:50 Now we don't want to be taken advantage of or exploited or whatever moral
01:58:03 terms that you want to use.
01:58:05 We don't want to have that happen to us.
01:58:06 So we don't deal, we don't hang out with narcissists, right?
01:58:08 Non-narcissists thinks narcissists are like them.
01:58:12 Yeah.
01:58:12 So for you to be really cruel to someone, you'd have to really hate them.
01:58:16 Right.
01:58:18 But you understand like the, the pig farmer who wants bacon doesn't hate his pigs.
01:58:26 He might actually have some real affection towards his pigs.
01:58:30 Doesn't mean he won't eat them.
01:58:31 Right.
01:58:33 Like when my daughter has ducks, we don't want 10,000 ducklings.
01:58:44 So we take their eggs, right?
01:58:46 We don't hate our ducks.
01:58:50 We love our ducks, but we don't want all these ducklings.
01:58:53 So we take their eggs.
01:58:53 It's not hatred.
01:58:55 So this is really, really important because if you hate them, you're thinking
01:59:02 they're like you, which means you think they're capable of relationship and
01:59:05 therefore the hatred will keep you stuck in this, right?
01:59:09 You think the guy with the, the bolt that kills the cows, do you think he's like,
01:59:18 "Fuck these cows, man.
01:59:19 I hate these fucking cows.
01:59:20 I'm going to kill as many cows as I want because these cows killed my family."
01:59:25 Vengeance.
01:59:26 Right.
01:59:27 He's not like some old Testament God.
01:59:28 He's just like.
01:59:29 I mean, gotta kill the cows because that's how you get the meat.
01:59:36 You don't hate them.
01:59:37 The narcissist doesn't hate you because you don't exist to the narcissist.
01:59:45 Like somebody who screams at their cell phone and says, "I hate you, cell phone."
01:59:56 I mean, that would be a crazy person, right?
01:59:59 Can a narcissist hate them?
02:00:01 I don't know what that means.
02:00:02 That's not a sentence then.
02:00:03 You don't have a relationship with a narcissist.
02:00:09 The farmer doesn't have a relationship with his livestock, other than maybe an
02:00:15 economic profit, it's not a relationship.
02:00:18 The farmer and his livestock.
02:00:20 Now, if you're a really crazy farmer and you're a sadist, then you will torture
02:00:26 your animals, which is horrible and wrong and cruel, right?
02:00:29 So if you're a really vicious, mean, nasty farmer, then you will torture your
02:00:34 animals, and then maybe that's weird and bizarre and cruel and nasty and all of
02:00:42 that, right?
02:00:42 Yeah.
02:00:43 Bad, bad, very bad, right?
02:00:45 But, you know, taking the...
02:00:49 You know, you don't go out to your chickens with a big bucket and say, "Ah,
02:00:57 you chickens, you're such shitty parents.
02:01:00 I'm going to punish you.
02:01:01 You also, you clock in the morning and you crap everywhere.
02:01:04 I'm taking your kids, man.
02:01:05 I'm taking your kids.
02:01:06 Screw you, chickens.
02:01:10 I'm making your chicken abortions orphans."
02:01:14 So what happens when a farmer makes a pet out of one of its stock?
02:01:21 Oh my God.
02:01:21 Dude.
02:01:23 I get that this is tough stuff to hear.
02:01:29 Then be honest.
02:01:30 There's something I struggle to understand.
02:01:33 Sadism.
02:01:34 Well, I'm not going to do sadism because we've been two hours and 10 minutes,
02:01:37 but I will make a note.
02:01:37 Is the farmer healed if he makes one of the cows his pet?
02:01:42 No, he's a pedophile.
02:01:47 Pedophile.
02:01:48 No, like you all like, "Oh, but what's the exception?
02:01:52 What if, like, for God's sakes, man."
02:01:54 Stay with the argument.
02:01:57 There's so much illumination here.
02:01:59 Well, what about this?
02:02:00 And what about that?
02:02:01 Like, oh my God, just stay with the argument.
02:02:03 Like, think about this for a month and then you can come up with some...
02:02:10 Pets are also exploitation in general.
02:02:13 Pets are also exploitation because from the pet, you're taking companionship
02:02:18 and family in order to get dopamine delivery mechanism for yourself, right?
02:02:22 The narcissist doesn't hate you.
02:02:37 He's angry when you don't give him what he wants, but he doesn't hate you.
02:02:43 Yeah.
02:02:50 People are jumping out into abstractions in order to avoid...
02:02:52 Come on, guys, you know, this is hitting you hard emotionally, right?
02:02:55 I mean, with all due respect, love, and sympathy, and I really do respect you
02:02:59 for having these difficult conversations.
02:03:01 It's an amazing, beautiful thing, but you all know this is hitting
02:03:05 you very hard emotionally.
02:03:07 Not just because of what was done to you, but I would imagine that the
02:03:12 people it's hitting the most hard emotionally are the people who were
02:03:15 looking at themselves and saying, "Have I done it?
02:03:18 Have I done it?"
02:03:19 Spoiler.
02:03:20 Yes, you have.
02:03:21 So have I.
02:03:22 Everyone has, because that's the default human position.
02:03:25 Empathy is a mutant gene.
02:03:29 Empathy is a rocket to the spread wing condors of human history.
02:03:37 Empathy is wild post monkey beta expansion pack buggy DLC.
02:03:44 And you can have your criticisms for having been exploitive as I have,
02:03:58 as you have, as everyone has.
02:04:00 This conversation is kicking me hard in the feels.
02:04:02 Yes.
02:04:05 Good.
02:04:06 Good.
02:04:07 We all got to face down that bastard in the mirror, right?
02:04:11 That exploiter, right?
02:04:13 That exploiter.
02:04:15 We all got to face that person down.
02:04:17 Oh man.
02:04:21 How do we fix it?
02:04:22 That is another way of avoiding the feelings.
02:04:29 I'm going to fix it.
02:04:32 First of all, get comfortable with it.
02:04:37 Get comfortable with the fact that you can exploit others as I can, as everyone
02:04:40 can get comfortable with it.
02:04:42 It's an impulse.
02:04:44 It's why we're all here.
02:04:46 So a narcissist cannot hate.
02:04:52 They are regulated as a rather small side of the emotional landscape.
02:04:55 I'm shaking from how close this is.
02:04:57 In what way?
02:04:58 In what way is this close?
02:05:00 Well, you asked that.
02:05:01 A narcissist cannot hate.
02:05:04 A narcissist can only call frustration hatred and the person who frustrates
02:05:11 them immoral.
02:05:11 Now, why does the person, why does the narcissist say that the person who hates
02:05:15 them is immoral?
02:05:15 Is it because they genuinely think that they're immoral and have a moral standard
02:05:18 and a moral value and abstract ethical reasoning?
02:05:21 Nope.
02:05:21 Why does the narcissist call the person who frustrates him immoral?
02:05:28 Why does the narcissist say that the person who frustrates him is immoral?
02:05:33 Is an evil, racist, sexist, phobic, whatever, right?
02:05:38 Why?
02:05:38 Why does the narcissist?
02:05:40 Yeah.
02:05:41 Because moral, the calling someone immoral is a great way to get them to change
02:05:45 their behavior and get them to give you what the fuck you want.
02:05:49 I gave you the goddamn call.
02:05:53 I gave you the fucking call.
02:05:54 I gave you the goddamn quarter.
02:05:58 Give me my fucking Coke.
02:06:00 You shake the machine.
02:06:04 If it doesn't give you what you want, right?
02:06:06 You thump the TV.
02:06:09 If it's fading out, right when you need to see what's happening in the sports
02:06:15 game.
02:06:16 Yeah.
02:06:16 You call someone immoral.
02:06:17 Oh, I don't want to.
02:06:18 You call someone a racist.
02:06:19 Oh, you call someone a sexist.
02:06:21 Oh, no, no, no.
02:06:22 Right.
02:06:22 Yeah.
02:06:23 They get so frustrated.
02:06:23 It's not hatred.
02:06:25 It's just a temper tantrum.
02:06:26 Yeah.
02:06:26 You're supposed to do what I want.
02:06:30 And if you don't do what I want, I'll call you a hater, a racist, a sexist,
02:06:36 a phobic, you're just a bastard.
02:06:39 You're just evil.
02:06:40 Cause that's just, it's not a moral judgment.
02:06:42 It's just, well, if I say these magic spells called evil, evil is just a spell
02:06:47 that the wizards of narcissism cast to control other people.
02:06:51 Right.
02:06:51 Did you follow it?
02:06:53 Like they don't care about morality.
02:06:56 They know you care about morality.
02:06:58 This is hitting me hard.
02:07:01 I'm even fogging out.
02:07:01 Going to have to listen to this one twice.
02:07:04 Man up.
02:07:07 Yeah.
02:07:08 Real man, right?
02:07:09 Real man is another fucking witch cast from hell.
02:07:13 Right.
02:07:13 A real man would write real men.
02:07:15 Right.
02:07:15 They're all just spells cast to control you.
02:07:27 Right.
02:07:32 Meanwhile, I'm worried about how I've made them feel because I
02:07:41 don't want to cause anyone harm.
02:07:42 Right.
02:07:43 So that's you mistaking you for them.
02:07:45 Dave says, I've been thinking about this stuff for months.
02:07:53 I find I'm most susceptible to them when I expect them to save me or to do things
02:07:57 for me that I haven't earned.
02:07:58 That's me trying to exploit them and hoping that they'll be like the parents I never had.
02:08:03 So I'm vulnerable to being manipulated by them to make them feel good
02:08:07 under the pretenses that can save me.
02:08:09 It's been on my mind for a while.
02:08:10 My poor behavior makes me a target.
02:08:12 Dave, would you like the answer?
02:08:15 You're, you're close in my humble opinion.
02:08:17 Would you like the answer?
02:08:19 Yeah.
02:08:22 Do you know how you stay controlled and manipulated?
02:08:29 Do you know how you stay so controlled and manipulated?
02:08:34 You're close, but there's an, this one I know for sure.
02:08:40 I have no doubt on this one.
02:08:41 Acting like I'm not responsible for myself.
02:08:48 No, it's hard to see.
02:08:50 It's hard to see.
02:08:51 And it's really, really heartbreaking.
02:08:53 Dave, my friend, my brother.
02:09:06 The reason you're trying to get them to be good parents is you want to avoid the pain
02:09:13 of accepting that it will never happen.
02:09:15 The reason you want to manipulate them into being better parents, good parents,
02:09:27 decent parents, caring for you, is that you wish desperately to avoid the pain
02:09:32 of accepting it will never happen.
02:09:35 Once you're an adult, if your parents were bad, they can never, ever, ever become good
02:09:47 because it will all be locking the barn door after the horse has left.
02:09:50 You must pray in a way for your parents to recover their conscience if they're
02:09:57 bad before you become an adult.
02:10:02 Let's say they starved you as a kid and they give you extra food as an adult.
02:10:05 Have they solved the problem?
02:10:06 It won't happen.
02:10:17 It will never happen.
02:10:20 Like you will, if you weren't parented as a child, you will never be parented.
02:10:23 You will never, ever, ever be parented if you weren't parented as a child.
02:10:31 Honestly, if you weren't breastfed, you go to your mother when she's 70 and say,
02:10:36 "Time to breastfeed me, 70-year-old mom."
02:10:44 You know, I talked to a guy today.
02:10:54 And it's just, I mean, it's awful.
02:11:00 I talked to a guy today who was born addicted to heroin.
02:11:06 He was born addicted to heroin.
02:11:12 He had to spend the first couple of weeks in the NCU.
02:11:19 No, they're not broken indefinitely.
02:11:23 Some things can't be fixed after they're broken.
02:11:25 They're just broken indefinitely.
02:11:26 No, no.
02:11:28 That's the fear.
02:11:29 That's what keeps you going back.
02:11:30 If I can't fix my parents, I'm broken forever.
02:11:32 I'm sad forever.
02:11:33 I grieve forever.
02:11:34 No, no.
02:11:37 A thousand times no.
02:11:39 Infinity, no.
02:11:41 Nobody has the power to break you forever.
02:11:46 Nobody has the power to break you forever.
02:11:49 Never surrender your capacity to be right fucking okay.
02:11:55 That's a curse.
02:12:05 Oh, you better fix things with your parents or you'll be broken forever.
02:12:10 No.
02:12:13 Now, chasing after narcissists, trying to get them to be like you,
02:12:19 that's going to be a forever breaking.
02:12:20 Forever and ever.
02:12:23 Amen.
02:12:23 You will be running off that cliff until the end of time.
02:12:25 Are you telling me that accepting truth, accepting reality, accepting facts
02:12:35 breaks you forever?
02:12:37 Ooh, that's just a voodoo curse.
02:12:42 That's how the narcissists keep you around.
02:12:44 Well, you got to fix things with us or you're broken forever.
02:12:47 Fuck no.
02:12:49 Holy shit.
02:12:51 Do you think me being broken or not broken is dependent upon me fixing my mom?
02:12:58 Oh my God.
02:13:02 What a fucking nightmare that would be.
02:13:06 What a hellscape that would be.
02:13:08 Does this make sense?
02:13:09 Like, why would my virtue, my ethics, reality, integrity, why would that be
02:13:16 dependent on making crazy people sane or growing empathy in people barren of the
02:13:24 entity?
02:13:24 No.
02:13:28 Absolutely not.
02:13:32 Shrug that shit right off, man.
02:13:36 Holy crap.
02:13:37 Holy crap.
02:13:39 Your relationship, your relationship is always and forever with one thing and one
02:14:02 thing only, no matter what, no matter who, no matter where, no matter when, no
02:14:07 matter how, your relationship is with one thing and one thing only, and that is
02:14:11 virtue.
02:14:12 Truth, honor, integrity, acceptance, facts, reality, reason.
02:14:19 Your relationship is only and forever with virtue.
02:14:22 Now, do broken people bar you from being virtuous?
02:14:26 Do broken people bar you from knowing the truth?
02:14:30 Do broken people bar you from accepting reality?
02:14:36 Do they have that power?
02:14:39 Answer.
02:14:44 Do they have that power?
02:14:46 If there's someone in the world, I don't care how close they are to you, who
02:14:52 thinks that two and two equal a blue unicorn, do they prevent you physically
02:14:58 from accepting that two and two make four?
02:15:00 Ever.
02:15:01 Do crazy people bar you from sanity?
02:15:05 Do delusional people bar you from truth?
02:15:07 Do corrupt people bar you from integrity?
02:15:12 We're fucked if they do.
02:15:17 We're all fucked if we do, if they do.
02:15:19 I mean, they can kill you, but they can't force you.
02:15:35 If you think you have to talk crazy people into being sane in order for
02:15:40 you to be unbroken, you're still their slave.
02:15:48 I don't even fucking need my YouTube channel from crazy people.
02:15:57 I don't need my Twitter.
02:15:59 I don't need, I would give it all up.
02:16:04 But I won't be broken into unreality.
02:16:06 I won't be broken into unreality.
02:16:09 That's not going to happen.
02:16:10 No.
02:16:11 They can't bar you from it.
02:16:18 Christ and all the saints have showed us that.
02:16:19 Straight up.
02:16:21 Straight up.
02:16:29 Can you imagine me saying, well, I can't be a peaceful parent until my
02:16:36 parents are peaceful parents.
02:16:37 I can't be a good parent until my bad parents are good parents.
02:16:42 What a nightmare.
02:16:47 What a horror show.
02:16:50 I don't mean your lives.
02:16:52 I just mean that thought.
02:16:53 Am I wrong?
02:16:57 Am I wrong?
02:17:02 I keep thinking you mean narcs, like narcotics officers.
02:17:08 Narcissists.
02:17:10 No, it's no, it's totally fine.
02:17:16 I translated it in my head.
02:17:27 Who is forcing you not to believe that two and two make four?
02:17:30 Who is forcing you to believe that two and two don't make four?
02:17:36 Even if it's only in your mind, even if it's only in your head, who is
02:17:44 forcing you to live in unreality?
02:17:46 Now, North Korea, I get it, right?
02:17:48 Cuba, I get it.
02:17:49 Who is forcing you to live in unreality?
02:17:53 Forcing you.
02:17:58 You're chasing bad parents to become good parents and demanding
02:18:11 that they become good parents.
02:18:12 Based on the delusion that you can have legitimate needs with narcissistic
02:18:20 people, you have nothing to gain from selfish people and everything to lose.
02:18:37 You have nothing to gain.
02:18:37 Look, I hope I have some credibility in this.
02:18:42 I haven't talked to my mom for a quarter century and my
02:18:43 dad died three years ago.
02:18:46 Do you think that I had to wait to speak reason to the world, to speak
02:19:01 virtue to the world, I had to wait until my parents became good people?
02:19:06 That would just be a way of saying, "I don't want to.
02:19:11 I don't want to.
02:19:12 I don't want to be a good person.
02:19:14 I don't want to look in the mirror and say, 'I don't want to be a good person.'
02:19:17 So I'll just pretend that when something impossible happens, I'll be a good person.
02:19:21 When the sun and the moon are the same size, I'll be a good person.
02:19:26 When there's day and night at the same time, I'll be the same person.
02:19:29 I'll be a good person.
02:19:31 When up is down, black is white, and gravity reverses itself and the world
02:19:34 is flat, I'll be a good person."
02:19:36 Okay, just say, "I don't want to be a good person."
02:19:39 It's too hard.
02:19:40 Okay, that's fine.
02:19:41 To be honest, but don't blame your parents and say, "Well, once they
02:19:43 change, I can be better."
02:19:45 "Oh, you're going to pursue them and try and make them be a good person."
02:19:48 Just say you don't want to do it.
02:19:49 Like, be honest with yourself.
02:19:50 I don't want to be a good person.
02:19:51 It's too hard.
02:19:52 There's nothing wrong with that.
02:19:54 It's no dishonor.
02:19:55 And that is honest.
02:19:57 I don't want to do politics.
02:19:59 I don't want to do politics.
02:20:00 A couple of years ago, I don't want to do politics.
02:20:02 I stopped doing politics.
02:20:04 And your parents are probably dangling.
02:20:05 Like, they know your need, right?
02:20:06 Well, we keep them around by pretending to be sane, by being nicer, by being better.
02:20:10 We're not going to be, "Now that he's independent of us, now that he can leave
02:20:14 us, we're going to be way saner," and that also gets the gaslighting about his
02:20:17 childhood, so they're just dangling this stuff over you.
02:20:19 And you're not going to be, "Oh, I'm going to be a good person."
02:20:23 You're not going to be a good person.
02:20:24 You're not going to be a good person.
02:20:25 You're not going to be a good person.
02:20:26 You're not going to be a good person.
02:20:27 You're not going to be a good person.
02:20:28 You're not going to be a good person.
02:20:29 You're not going to be a good person.
02:20:30 They're just dangling this stuff over you.
02:20:44 Actually, I was introduced to you by a friend, so someone who knew about my
02:20:47 relationship with my mom, and he thought I'd appreciate your insight about dealing
02:20:50 with holding strong to my defiance.
02:20:51 Why do you need defiance?
02:20:54 Why is there a fight?
02:20:59 Do you play chess with people who punch you if they lose?
02:21:09 No.
02:21:09 It's not part of the game.
02:21:10 It's not a thing in chess.
02:21:12 Do you see what I mean?
02:21:13 I told a guy in an interview, "If you told me two plus two is five, I had to be able
02:21:24 to tell him it was four."
02:21:25 He said, "Yes, but if I tell you to say it's five, you must say five.
02:21:27 I didn't take the job."
02:21:28 I said, "Good for you.
02:21:30 Good for you."
02:21:31 Probably ended up avoiding some eventual criminal investigation because she wanted
02:21:38 me to lie for her, and I wouldn't, so she rejected me.
02:21:41 "Yes, but are you still bleeding energy in defiance now?"
02:21:51 Am I fighting my mother?
02:21:55 Have you ever seen me fight my mother?
02:21:56 Did you ever hear of me fighting my father?
02:22:03 Chess boxing is a thing in Russia.
02:22:09 Well, if there's one place, right?
02:22:12 Yeah, literally 1984.
02:22:16 Yeah, yeah.
02:22:16 Two and two make whatever the party says it makes.
02:22:19 She won't speak to me at all now, actually.
02:22:22 Last time I knocked on her door, she said she'd call the police if I didn't leave.
02:22:26 When was the last time you knocked on her door?
02:22:28 When was the last time you knocked on her door, and why did you do that?
02:22:35 And spoiler, you say she won't speak to me at all now, actually.
02:22:58 She never spoke to you.
02:23:00 Well, you were the first person I ever heard speak about their mother without complete
02:23:06 sympathy.
02:23:07 Oh, two years ago?
02:23:08 Yeah, she never spoke to you.
02:23:12 Defooing is not rejecting a relationship.
02:23:14 It's not ending a relationship.
02:23:15 It's just recognizing that there isn't one, right?
02:23:19 Just recognizing that there isn't one.
02:23:26 The ANCAP candidate won in Argentina.
02:23:30 How do you know that a conversation is really bothering someone when they try to pull you
02:23:33 off with a siren song of politics?
02:23:38 Let's talk about Argentina.
02:23:47 I know, I know.
02:23:51 It's hard.
02:23:52 It's hard.
02:23:53 It's hard.
02:23:54 Because this is actionable.
02:23:56 This is real.
02:24:05 The guy in Argentina who has had threesomes wants open borders and wants to model the
02:24:10 political system after Ireland?
02:24:12 Yeah, good luck with that.
02:24:21 One thing you taught me was to be conscious of who I want approval from.
02:24:24 My family hated me because they were unethical and evil.
02:24:28 There was no need for me to want their approval.
02:24:30 If they liked me, then I'd have a problem.
02:24:32 You talked about this ages ago in a call-in.
02:24:35 I saw you forgive your mother.
02:24:37 Me?
02:24:38 Okay, maybe it would not have been me.
02:24:44 No, Dave, oh my God.
02:24:51 You didn't include the word, and I'll just close up on this one, you didn't include my
02:24:54 family hated me.
02:24:56 Do you think your family hated you?
02:25:01 It's so hard to accept that my mother doesn't care about me.
02:25:03 It feels like I'm missing something, but I'm not.
02:25:05 She really doesn't care, and it feels no remorse for abusing me as a child.
02:25:12 It's so hard to accept that my mother doesn't care about me.
02:25:14 I know.
02:25:16 You understand that's a little bit of the narcissism, right?
02:25:20 It's narcissistic to think that narcissists are like you.
02:25:22 That's how they infect, and that's how they exploit.
02:25:24 They'll implant your own narcissism so that you think everyone's like you.
02:25:28 It's narcissistic, and listen, God knows I have no defense in this.
02:25:32 I'm probably more subject to this than anyone in this conversation with least excuse, so
02:25:35 I say this with all abject, humble humility and self-criticism.
02:25:41 It's narcissistic to think that narcissists are like you.
02:25:44 That's how the virus spreads, because it keeps you in their orbit, trying to get stuff.
02:25:48 "Oh, they're like me.
02:25:49 I care.
02:25:50 They must care.
02:25:51 There's got to be some way to unlock their ... They unlock resources for me.
02:25:53 I've got to unlock their compassion from them.
02:25:55 It's not there."
02:25:58 Empathy is 13 brain functions all working in concert over the first year or two of life.
02:26:08 Empathy isn't in them any more than a deep knowledge of Klingon is in them.
02:26:14 "They don't hate you."
02:26:20 I did drop the word "me" on my phone.
02:26:21 They hated that I bucked their lies, saw me as a troublemaker.
02:26:25 My father tried to destroy me multiple times over the years, even as a little child, and
02:26:28 for that, Dave, I have massive, massive sympathy.
02:26:33 They don't hate you, in my view, in my opinion.
02:26:37 I don't know you.
02:26:38 We can do a call in.
02:26:39 Call in at freedomain.com.
02:26:40 "Why can't it just be easy?"
02:26:44 Oh my God, people, I'm trying to make it easy, but you keep complicating it.
02:26:50 I'm trying to make it easy for you.
02:26:51 Hit me with a "why" if you understand that I'm trying to make it dead simple for you.
02:26:58 I'm trying to uncomplicate and unfuck all of this thinking.
02:27:00 Understand?
02:27:01 I'm trying to make it as simple as possible.
02:27:03 Why can't it just be easy?
02:27:04 Try listening.
02:27:05 I can't work any harder to make it any simpler.
02:27:15 They don't hate me because I'm not human in their eyes.
02:27:20 Okay, is a criminal angry at the cop for arresting him?
02:27:26 Like some really wretched criminal, right?
02:27:28 Is a criminal angry, is he frustrated and angry at the cop for arresting him?
02:27:39 Yes.
02:27:42 Okay, is he angry at the cop for arresting him?
02:27:47 No, he's not angry at the cop for arresting him.
02:27:53 He's not angry at the cop for arresting him.
02:28:00 Because "the cop" is singular.
02:28:04 Let's say there are two cops.
02:28:08 Let's say there are two cops, Bob and Dave.
02:28:10 Now, if Bob is first through the door, but Dave arrests him, does the criminal hate Dave
02:28:17 more or Bob more?
02:28:21 He doesn't hate the cop.
02:28:23 He hates being arrested.
02:28:24 Whoever.
02:28:25 It's not personal to the cop.
02:28:26 Any cop who arrests him, he will hate.
02:28:28 It's not personal.
02:28:30 He doesn't hate "the cop."
02:28:31 He hates being arrested.
02:28:34 Your parents don't hate you.
02:28:36 They hate anyone who tells the truth.
02:28:37 They hate getting caught.
02:28:38 They hate being exposed or whoever or whatever bad people.
02:28:41 They don't hate you.
02:28:48 Do you think that people who de-platform me hated me?
02:28:50 They don't hate me.
02:28:52 I'm just in between them and what they want.
02:28:56 Right?
02:28:58 If people accept what I say, a lot of unjust resources, power, and property gets returned
02:29:05 to its rightful owners.
02:29:14 It's not personal.
02:29:16 Okay.
02:29:17 Do you think, let's say that I had a twin, right?
02:29:20 And let's say that for some reason, let's say there's Stefan and there's Stephanie,
02:29:26 right?
02:29:27 So, Stefan, me, the guy, doesn't confront my mother, but Stephanie does.
02:29:33 Do you think she hates Stephanie?
02:29:34 Yes, she hates Stephanie because Stephanie confronted her.
02:29:37 Right?
02:29:38 If I do it but Stephanie doesn't, she'll hate me.
02:29:40 It's not personal.
02:29:41 It's not personal.
02:29:46 Whoever tells them the truth, so you happen to tell them the truth and you think, "Oh,
02:29:49 they hate me."
02:29:50 No, they hate the truth.
02:29:51 They hate virtue.
02:29:52 They don't hate you.
02:29:55 Because if they hate you, then it's independent of what you do.
02:30:01 Right?
02:30:04 If they hate you, then their hatred follows you no matter what you do.
02:30:07 No.
02:30:08 They hate that you exposed them in the same way.
02:30:11 The mafia kills a guy who's going to testify against them in court.
02:30:15 They don't hate that guy.
02:30:16 They hate going to jail.
02:30:17 They hate and fear going to jail.
02:30:20 But they don't hate that guy personally.
02:30:22 "Oh, that guy."
02:30:23 No, we have to eliminate him because otherwise we're going to jail.
02:30:27 It's not personal.
02:30:29 They haven't evaluated him and, "Oh, I really dislike that guy."
02:30:34 You evaluate people morally so you think other people do as well.
02:30:38 Right?
02:30:39 Now, people will use moral language.
02:30:41 I guess it's confusing, right?
02:30:42 But they don't evaluate you morally.
02:30:44 They don't evaluate you morally.
02:30:51 I know this because I was the golden boy in my family.
02:30:54 You understand?
02:30:55 I was the golden boy in my family.
02:30:56 It was unfair.
02:30:57 It was wrong.
02:30:58 But my mother loved me because I reminded my mother of her father who was a famous writer
02:31:02 and her brother who was a famous writer in Germany.
02:31:05 And so my mother "loved me" and she associated my brother—unjustly, unfairly, it was wrong—she
02:31:15 associated my brother with her ex-husband.
02:31:18 "Oh, he's just like…"
02:31:20 Right?
02:31:21 So I was her favorite son.
02:31:23 Totally wrong.
02:31:25 So I was her favorite son until when?
02:31:31 I was the golden boy until when?
02:31:35 She loved me until when?
02:31:46 You know, right?
02:31:48 You know.
02:31:50 So I'm still the same person.
02:31:56 She loved me until I told the truth.
02:31:59 Until I… no, no, no.
02:32:02 She didn't love me until I left.
02:32:04 I left because she hated the truth.
02:32:07 Right?
02:32:09 I was honest.
02:32:12 And we've gone through this, most of us, right?
02:32:17 We're the good kids and then we have questions, criticisms, and now we're the evil kids and
02:32:22 it's not personal.
02:32:25 Right?
02:32:28 She didn't go from loving me to hating me.
02:32:31 She didn't go from loving me to hating me.
02:32:34 Right?
02:32:36 She was fine with me when I was compliant and she "hated" me when I wasn't.
02:32:48 And then she tried every key in the lock to get me back to compliance.
02:32:56 Right?
02:32:58 Until you asked for something that you needed.
02:33:00 Well, until I made a reasonable request.
02:33:03 Yeah.
02:33:05 This conversation hurts.
02:33:06 Right.
02:33:07 Because we would rather be hated than ignored.
02:33:12 Right?
02:33:16 Now please try to avoid the…
02:33:20 See the thing is if you feel hated then you have a curse on your head.
02:33:23 I'm trying to lift a curse.
02:33:25 I'm going almost three hours here working heart, body, mind, and soul to lift a curse
02:33:30 from you to dispel this voodoo that you're hated.
02:33:36 You're not hated.
02:33:39 I'm not hated by society.
02:33:40 I'm not hated by Wikipedia.
02:33:42 I'm not hated by YouTube.
02:33:44 I'm not hated by my parents.
02:33:45 I'm not hated by anybody.
02:33:48 Not personal to me.
02:33:50 Do you think people have evaluated me objectively and said, "Well, you know, he speaks the
02:33:54 truth.
02:33:55 He's interviewed a lot of people.
02:33:57 He writes with great tenderness about children's rights.
02:34:00 He opposes spanking.
02:34:01 He promotes peaceful parenting.
02:34:02 He promotes science.
02:34:04 Oh, he's just…
02:34:05 Oh, he's an evil guy."
02:34:06 Right?
02:34:07 Jeffrey Epstein never get debanked.
02:34:10 Right?
02:34:11 It's not about me.
02:34:14 They don't hate me.
02:34:15 I mean, they're trying to get me to change.
02:34:18 I get that.
02:34:22 It's not personal.
02:34:23 Do you think I wake up every day, "Oh, man, I'm hated, man.
02:34:26 People hate me."
02:34:27 They don't hate me.
02:34:28 They don't know me, really.
02:34:29 I mean, they've been told stuff about me or whatever, right?
02:34:32 But come on.
02:34:34 Thank you, Steph.
02:34:35 This is a great stream.
02:34:38 I don't want you guys…
02:34:39 Yeah, remember to like the stream if you can, and any final donations would be great.
02:34:43 I don't want you guys to feel hated.
02:34:46 I don't want you guys to feel hated.
02:34:48 That's horrible.
02:34:49 Because feeling hated by the people who gave you life and raised you, feeling hated by
02:34:54 them…
02:34:58 Feeling hated by them will bar you from feeling loved by anyone.
02:35:04 Parental hatred is like this original curse that will bar you from love.
02:35:10 Do you see what I mean?
02:35:15 I want you to experience love, and you can't experience love if you think your parents
02:35:20 hate you.
02:35:29 I stood between the predators and their prey.
02:35:32 They don't hate me.
02:35:33 They just want their prey.
02:35:34 Just knock me out of the way.
02:35:35 Okay, well, it's not hatred.
02:35:37 It's just you're in the way.
02:35:38 Right?
02:35:39 I'm just in the way.
02:35:42 You drive in some backcountry road and there's a log on the road.
02:35:46 You get up and you lift it out the way.
02:35:47 You don't hate the log.
02:35:48 You don't hate the log.
02:35:49 It's just in the way.
02:35:52 I was just in the way.
02:35:53 It's kind of the job, right, of a moralist to be in the way of predators and their prey,
02:36:00 right?
02:36:02 I have to think more about this point.
02:36:05 Is this concept related to forgiveness not being necessary?
02:36:08 Stop thinking, start feeling.
02:36:10 Dave, stop thinking, start feeling.
02:36:14 This is a feeling thing.
02:36:16 I'm trying to lift a curse.
02:36:18 You can't solve it intellectually.
02:36:20 The curse of feeling unloved.
02:36:25 The curse of feeling unloved can't be solved by intellectualism.
02:36:33 This is a deep soul black curse on you.
02:36:39 We hate you.
02:36:41 My mother screamed in the middle of the night when I was like six or seven years old.
02:36:45 "They f'n hate these kids.
02:36:46 I hate these kids."
02:36:47 I mean, I was shocked, but I didn't take it personally.
02:36:52 I mean, I certainly have and I'm not trying, "Oh, at the age of six I got all of this."
02:36:56 I'm not trying to make some, you know, golden Buddha nonsense.
02:37:03 They don't hate you.
02:37:11 You don't hate a vending machine if it doesn't give you the drink after you put your money
02:37:16 in.
02:37:17 You're frustrated, I get that.
02:37:18 You might bang it and "Argh!"
02:37:19 Right?
02:37:20 But you don't morally hate.
02:37:22 Why did she say that?
02:37:23 What happened?
02:37:24 I don't know why she said that.
02:37:25 It was just the middle of the night.
02:37:26 I happened to be awake and she screamed it in the living room.
02:37:29 Whatever she was brooding on, I have no idea.
02:37:35 I imagine what happened was there was some guy she desperately viewed as her sort of
02:37:40 Mitch from Streetcar Named Desire.
02:37:43 There was some guy, probably, who really, really wanted ... she really, really wanted
02:37:50 to date him, but he's like, "You know, I can't take on these kids."
02:37:54 Right?
02:37:55 So, I effing hate these kids because they're in the way of me.
02:38:02 Like my mom always had this kind of vague fantasy that she was like going to be on red
02:38:06 carpets and be like Grace Kelly or something, but if it wasn't for these kids, right?
02:38:10 These Scooby-Doo style, these kids messed it all up.
02:38:21 She don't accept the reality of who she is.
02:38:23 I'm clinging onto what my four-year-old self thought of her as that normal.
02:38:30 You feel, as a kid, you feel less anxiety feeling hated than you don't even exist to
02:38:36 them.
02:38:37 Somebody says, "When I was six, my mom told me it was my fault my grandpa committed suicide
02:38:41 because one time I told him I didn't want to go to the store with him.
02:38:44 I knew it was true, but I also knew it was so effed up that my mother was telling me
02:38:49 that."
02:38:50 Oh, you knew that it wasn't true?
02:38:51 Yeah, it's completely effed up.
02:38:52 Sometimes they just play their hand too much, right?
02:38:57 That is attempted soul murder, in my view.
02:39:00 That's attempted soul murder.
02:39:01 And I'm really sorry that you even were exposed to any kind of language like that.
02:39:04 That's just beyond appalling.
02:39:06 It's just beyond wretched.
02:39:07 It's beyond evil, really.
02:39:09 Verbal abuse against children is a violation of the NAP, as I make the case in my book,
02:39:15 Peaceful Parenting.
02:39:16 Oh, I just, please, take this log off your legs, take this curse, take the scoliosis
02:39:22 out of your back, uncurl your spine, unclog your voice, purify your soul, be baptized
02:39:30 in the glory of parental indifference masquerading as hatred.
02:39:34 They didn't hate you.
02:39:36 They didn't hate you.
02:39:40 There's no you there.
02:39:43 There's no you.
02:39:44 You're just a vending machine that didn't work for them.
02:39:45 Like, when I was a kid, if a video game machine ate your quarter, you wouldn't come back with
02:40:00 an axe and curse it and jihad against, like, it just would be bizarre, right?
02:40:12 Don't be hated, man.
02:40:13 It's a horrible experience.
02:40:16 It's not needed and it's not true.
02:40:18 And it's a curse, right?
02:40:19 So it's a curse that your parents put on you, that they hate you, and then you've got to
02:40:23 beg them to release you from the curse.
02:40:26 Oh, please stop hating me.
02:40:28 Oh, please be better parents.
02:40:29 I'm going to talk to you.
02:40:30 I'm going to reason with you.
02:40:31 I want to be here and I don't want you to hate me and I want to be honest and I want
02:40:33 to be truthful.
02:40:34 Don't, right?
02:40:37 But in order to save you, someone's got to damn you first, right?
02:40:41 Just don't.
02:40:43 It's not a real thing.
02:40:44 There's no curse on you.
02:40:45 Your soul isn't blackened.
02:40:47 People don't hate you.
02:40:49 I mean, do you know why people say they hate you?
02:40:55 Because that's the way to get the key in the lock, to turn it, to click, to get them to
02:40:58 get you to do what they want.
02:41:00 That's why they say they hate you.
02:41:02 Does this make sense?
02:41:04 They say they hate you so you'll do what they want to avoid being called hateful.
02:41:11 It's like original sin, right?
02:41:13 I've got to curse you.
02:41:14 I'll save you.
02:41:22 Thank you for helping us to see these narcissists for who they are and not blame ourselves.
02:41:25 Amen, brother.
02:41:26 You're not hated.
02:41:27 Do you think if I thought my parents hated me or the world hated me or people hated me
02:41:32 that I could stand happy and pure when my wife and daughter say, "I love you"?
02:41:42 They're right.
02:41:43 They know me, right?
02:41:45 They're right.
02:41:47 The world...
02:41:51 The world put a picture of me over their own mirror and punched their hands, stupid and
02:42:02 bloody, pretending to attack me.
02:42:06 Good night, Steph.
02:42:09 It's nearly 3am.
02:42:10 I must go.
02:42:11 Thanks for everything.
02:42:12 I'm beginning to heal with this last week's live stream about self-attacking and self-hatred.
02:42:15 Good night, mate.
02:42:16 We'll listen to the rest on podcast.
02:42:17 Well, we've only got a few minutes left.
02:42:18 We've got a three-hour limit on the show.
02:42:21 What pisses me off, they sure know how to look sane.
02:42:23 Sure, of course they do.
02:42:25 Yeah.
02:42:26 Spoiler, camouflage is important for predators.
02:42:30 Right?
02:42:32 Yeah.
02:42:34 There's a truth-teller in the world.
02:42:37 If we keep lobbing hate bombs at the truth-teller, we can get him to stop telling the truth.
02:42:42 I understand that.
02:42:43 I understand that.
02:42:44 I really sympathize with that.
02:42:45 I really do.
02:42:46 I sympathize with that.
02:42:47 It's pretty horrible to choose a life of lies and then end up having to pretend to hate
02:42:51 the truth-teller and also be virtuous.
02:42:53 I get that.
02:42:54 It's tough.
02:42:55 Like all the people dependent on government, yeah, they don't like it when people come
02:42:57 along and talk about privatizing.
02:42:59 Yeah, it's tough.
02:43:01 But there's no hatred of individuals involved.
02:43:04 You just... the thief who steals things wants to keep what he stole.
02:43:10 Somebody who takes it back, "Oh, I hate that guy."
02:43:12 It's like, "Eh."
02:43:13 It's not hatred.
02:43:14 It's not personal.
02:43:15 Because anyone, like anyone who did it, they'd hate.
02:43:17 Anyone who arrests the criminal, he hates.
02:43:18 Anybody who happened to witness the mafia crime, they're going to try and wipe out.
02:43:22 It's not personal.
02:43:24 Wrong place, wrong time.
02:43:27 Wrong place, wrong time, wrong family.
02:43:29 Sorry.
02:43:31 You're old snake eyes.
02:43:32 Bad luck.
02:43:33 Bad luck, man.
02:43:34 Oof.
02:43:35 That's tough.
02:43:36 And it is tough.
02:43:37 It was tough that I was born into the family that I was born into.
02:43:40 However, I wouldn't have become as great a dad if I'd been born into a different family.
02:43:45 Because I know people who were born in great families, and they did not become nearly as
02:43:50 committed to virtue as I am.
02:43:54 So please, please, don't fall for the narcissistic psyop of thinking that you're hated.
02:44:02 You're not hated.
02:44:04 You're just in the way.
02:44:05 It's not personal.
02:44:06 They don't hate you.
02:44:07 They haven't judged you morally and evaluated you.
02:44:09 I mean, they'll say they have, because that's the best way to get you to change your behavior.
02:44:13 "You're a bad guy.
02:44:14 You ought to change your behavior."
02:44:15 "No, I'm a bad guy.
02:44:16 In order to avoid the bad feeling of being a bad guy, I'll change my behavior so no one
02:44:19 calls me a bad guy."
02:44:20 Fuck that.
02:44:23 Fuck that.
02:44:25 Nah, we've had just about enough of that, thank you very much, over the course of human
02:44:29 history.
02:44:31 Way too much power in the brutalizers.
02:44:34 How are you feeling, all?
02:44:37 Just as we close off, how are you doing?
02:44:39 I want to check in with you all.
02:44:41 How are you?
02:44:42 I'm good.
02:44:43 Amazing grace, how sweet thou sound.
02:44:49 That saved a wretch like me.
02:45:06 I don't know what to do with this.
02:45:07 I have to sleep on it.
02:45:08 Yeah.
02:45:09 Relieved.
02:45:10 Sad.
02:45:11 Heavy sad.
02:45:12 Kicks up some dormant dust though, don't it?
02:45:18 Polishes up those caked over stained glass windows.
02:45:24 Little disoriented.
02:45:27 We've left Asia, baby.
02:45:28 We are disoriented.
02:45:29 Heavy sad.
02:45:30 All right.
02:45:31 If you're listening to this later, I can't even tell you how hard I have to work for
02:45:34 this kind of stuff.
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02:45:49 Have yourselves a beautiful evening.
02:45:51 Thank you for these great conversations.
02:45:52 How much good we do for the world.
02:45:54 I love you guys for it.
02:45:56 I'll talk to you soon.
02:45:57 Good night.
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