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00:00Good morning everybody, hope you're doing well, it's Stefan Molony from Freedomain,
00:04getting my morning sun, a little brain work constitutional.
00:08So let's get straight to questions for freedomain.locals.com,
00:12hope you will help support the show, at freedomain.com.
00:16Alright, mental health, how do we help those who
00:20do not want help, the addicts, the antisocial,
00:24ideally we do not create them, but what do we do with the ones already broken
00:28that do not want help? So, there is
00:32a male and female perspective on
00:36helping others, which is really really important,
00:40really really important to understand, it's obviously, it's overlapping
00:44circles, so it's not all men and all women, but in general, there's a male
00:48and female perspective to helping
00:52others. Now, for
00:56women, helping everyone is essential.
01:00Remember, women evolved, that's not to say that all women are,
01:04obviously, right, but women
01:08evolved for the raising,
01:12the having and raising of children, right, the having and raising
01:16of children. Now, when a woman
01:20looks at her own children, she,
01:24I mean, this is Sophie's Choice horror, right, she does not say
01:28I'm going to let nature take its course and
01:32I'm going to see which one is the strongest and the biggest
01:36and the best to get the food, to get the resources and all this kind of stuff, right,
01:40that's not what she does. What she does in order for her
01:44children to survive is she uses force
01:48to take from the more successful and the stronger
01:52and the taller and the bigger and the more aggressive, she
01:56uses force to take resources from the bigger children
02:00and give those resources to the smaller children.
02:04That's perfectly healthy, that's exactly how it should be.
02:08As a younger sibling myself, I approve of this
02:12procedure. So
02:16women force distribute resources from older children to younger
02:20children. So the older child has the toy, after a certain amount of time
02:24the older child has to let the younger child get the toy, even though the younger child is too
02:28small and weak to get the toy. If you were to let
02:32the children
02:36use size, strength, power to get food,
02:40then the older children would get all the food and the younger children would not get the food and therefore
02:44the younger children would get weak and be more susceptible to infection and
02:48so on. So this forced redistribution from the strongest
02:52to the weakest is exactly right and appropriate and healthy and good
02:56and the reason for our survival when it comes to our evolution with
03:00regards to women and children.
03:04For men, on the other hand, we recognize that
03:08resources are limited. It's
03:12interesting that there are almost no famous
03:16female economists.
03:20There are almost no famous female economists. Men
03:24are evolved to recognize that a
03:28meritocracy is essential because resources are
03:32limited. So you've got three spears and your
03:36family's hungry, you've got to give those three spears to the
03:40very best spear throwers, otherwise
03:44everyone dies.
03:48So for men, and if it's war, you give
03:52the swords, you have like ten swords or ten
03:56weapons, you give those weapons to the very best, youngest and strongest and
04:00quickest and most skilled fighters. You don't have, well
04:04you know, you haven't thrown the, you old half-blind
04:08guy, well gee you haven't thrown the spear in the last five hunts, it's your turn man,
04:12it's your turn. We don't do that as men. So
04:16if you look at all of this stuff, equality of outcome versus equality
04:20of opportunity, DEI versus meritocracy,
04:24quotas versus raw competence tests,
04:28it is all, all, all female mindset versus
04:32male mindset.
04:36And women, of course, have
04:40the resource acquisition strategy of
04:44sexuality and complaining. Men have the resource acquisition strategy
04:48of raw competence and a commitment to absolute
04:52meritocracy.
04:56So, if you look at, as women have taken
05:00over sports in schools, the way that it works, at least the way that
05:04I worked when I was growing up, the way that it worked when I was growing up was
05:08the kids would pair off and you'd pick, right, you'd pick who's gonna
05:12be on your team. There'd be two team captains who were the best and they would pick from the
05:16horde of kids who's gonna be on the team. And you picked that in order
05:20to show a meritocracy.
05:24And in order to reward those who were skilled and to
05:28punish those who weren't skilled with the goal of encouraging those who weren't skilled
05:32to become more skilled. So when I first came to Canada, I was not picked
05:36for baseball teams because nobody knew how well I could hit. I was a new
05:40kid. I had a funny accent and all of that. And then once it was shown
05:44that I was very good at athletics and could hit a ball very well,
05:48then I got picked, you know, first or second and that's just natural, right?
05:52And it's good. It's healthy. You have to win, right? Sports is a preparation for
05:56hunting and war where if you don't win, you die. And, you know,
06:00life being preferable to death, meritocracy is really, really important.
06:04So everybody gets their turn. Everybody gets an equal
06:08share of resources. The strong have to give up stuff to the weak.
06:12That is female nature. And it's a beautiful, beautiful
06:16thing in the family.
06:20It's a terrible thing in politics, but just about everything is a terrible thing in politics.
06:24So for men,
06:28meritocracy is how we build a civilization.
06:32Whoever is the best gets the resources. And that's what capitalism does, right?
06:36Capitalism is male.
06:40So capitalism is male. Socialism is female.
06:44Extreme masculinity is fascism. Extreme
06:48femininity is communism. And so women feel very
06:52uncomfortable when they see, like they feel viscerally, deeply dick
06:56in their bone marrows. They feel very uncomfortable when they see somebody they
07:00perceive to be an underdog suffering and it triggers their
07:04protect and keep alive the youngest sibling.
07:08Their youngest child. And of course
07:12women raise, for most of our evolution,
07:16women raised children collectively. They raised them in common.
07:20So they don't have a strict us versus them. So with men
07:24we're always in competition in the tribe. We're always in competition with the men of other
07:28tribes. And that competition is brutal and violent. And it's not
07:32just war, right? I mean, there's the war part, of course, right?
07:36That there's men of other tribes always constantly wanting to come and take your stuff and
07:40rape your women. But for men, the way that
07:44we evolved is even hunting grounds, right? Like there are other
07:48men who want to come to your prime hunting grounds and take, like the poachers, so to
07:52speak, they want to come and take your food. And if they succeed, then
07:56you're going to die.
08:00And the death can be any number of things, right?
08:04Every now and then I think when I'm on a really, really long hike or doing
08:08something really physically strenuous, like scrolling Twitter,
08:12when I think about the
08:16decaying orbit, like the deadly thing that happens in the world
08:20throughout our evolution, when
08:24you've had unsuccessful hunting
08:28and so you don't have calories and, you know,
08:32maybe you've run out of your visceral body fat or whatever, you don't have calories.
08:36But then you've got to go hunt again.
08:40But because you have fewer calories, you can't go as far
08:44and so it becomes like you don't have enough calories
08:48because you haven't had successful hunts and therefore you become a worse hunter.
08:52And so the death usually would not be from starvation.
08:56The death would be from a number of things such as
09:00you can't fight off predators, you're too weak, right? The wolves come or the bears come
09:04or whatever comes. Or you're more
09:08susceptible to illness than infection because you're skinny and starving, right?
09:12Or another tribe recognizes that
09:16you're weak and then comes and takes all your stuff and takes you over
09:20and so on, right?
09:24So you have to maintain this conveyor belt of calories
09:28and, you know, human beings, especially, you know, 2,500, 3,000
09:32if you're a guy out there hunting and doing all this stuff, this is one of the reasons why
09:36most civilizations, when they could, went to farming.
09:40Because when you farm, the food comes to you so you don't have
09:44to go and find it, right? You know where it is, it's in the field, right? So the food comes to you when you're
09:48farming, so it's less calories. And, of course, there are other problems
09:52lactose intolerance, gluten intolerance, and so on, but
09:56in general, right? And there's a great book called The Ten Thousand Year Explosion that's worth
10:00reading about all of this.
10:04So,
10:08men understand that resources are finite and
10:12women
10:16they have sexuality, evolutionarily speaking, right? Again, tons
10:20of exceptions, but just the general trend. Women have
10:24the positive offer of sexuality and the negative
10:28infliction of nagging or complaining or the withholding of sexuality
10:32in order to motivate the men to provide resources.
10:36So women are used to showing
10:40their receptivity to sexual access to gain resources
10:44and women are used to complaining to gain resources.
10:48And so for women, there is
10:52less of a resources are finite. For men, we
10:56have to go out and get the resources, hunt and grow and write all of this kind of stuff, so resources
11:00are... And, of course, for women, too, they tend to do more gathering than hunting,
11:04right? And so for women, resources feel a lot more infinite because it's a lot easier
11:08to go and pick some berries as a whole than it is to go and find and bring down
11:12some potentially dangerous animal in the wild, right?
11:16So this is the general
11:20way that our emotions have evolved. And this, of course, is perfectly
11:24wonderful and healthy and great, except when combined with the coercive power of money
11:28printing and political redistribution, then it goes really
11:32kind of crazy. So,
11:36why is this related to the question you may ask? And well, may you ask? It's a good question.
11:40So the addicts, right?
11:44For men... So for women, they're
11:48emotionally programmed that all the sorrowful, sad people
11:52are broken, sad-eyed victims that their wounds
11:56swell to help no matter what the cost, because the cost of helping
12:00generally comes from men, right? And so one of the
12:04conflicts throughout our evolution is women want
12:08to help others, and men say, you can't
12:12because resources are finite. We can't
12:16afford to help, right? I've got a scene in my novel called
12:20The Future, which you should absolutely completely and totally read. It's free
12:24at freedomain.com slash books, where
12:28a character named Roman
12:32who's quite primitive but powerful talks about
12:36all the times in history when your neighbors hadn't stored enough food
12:40for the winter and came by because they needed food from you, and
12:44the woman, of course, would want to help. She's friends with the other woman, and the man would
12:48have to say, we can't. I mean, brutal though it is, horrible though it is, if we help them,
12:52we all starve. Like, we can make it through just, right?
12:56But if we help them, if we bring them in, we all starve. And
13:00the brutality of that situation, I mean, this is one of the
13:04reasons why the brains in northern climates
13:08develop the way they do, is that if you don't make a plan for winter
13:12and I don't mean sort of up around the real Inuit circles, but
13:16in sort of northern Europe and Siberia and so on.
13:20Well, those who didn't plan for winter didn't make it.
13:24And if the female impulse to help
13:28everyone, no matter what the cost, had been followed,
13:32then nobody would have made it.
13:36We all would have died. So women desperately want to help.
13:40And that's beautiful. I love that about women. Desperately want to help others, and men
13:44say, we'd love to, but we can't. We can't. We don't
13:48have the resources. It's, you know, I'm going to have to choose my family over a stranger
13:52or some other family. Now, one of the things that's happened
13:56of course in the modern world is money printing and debt
14:00at the governmental level has made
14:04any argument about finite resources
14:08non-credible, right? We could help. You know, where there's a will
14:12there's a way. We can house everyone. We can feed everyone. We can take care
14:16of everyone. Well, with bitcoin or
14:20gold or limited resources, we're like, no, we're out. We're out. We can't. We're out.
14:24You're going to have to make some tough choices. But because you can just print and borrow
14:28the female desire to take care of everyone that is
14:32metastasized from her children or neighborhood children to the world as a
14:36whole through the black alchemy of politics and money printing, that has just
14:40taken over. And now anyone who doesn't want to help anyone and everyone
14:44is considered to be a bigot and a bad person and all that kind of stuff, right?
14:48We could help. We could help. And so, because
14:52the male constraint of resources are limited, we're going to have to
14:56make tough decisions. I mean, it's not fair or right, but this is one of the reasons why
15:00women couldn't get credit cards, couldn't take out loans, couldn't open bank accounts because
15:04the female altruism to help everyone is so strong and powerful that
15:08it leads to debt, right? And men don't like debt
15:12and women are more comfortable with debt. You can see that in these statistics.
15:16What does this mean? So you say, what do we do with the addicts, the anti-social?
15:20Ideally, we do not create them. But what do we do with the ones already broken
15:24that do not want help?
15:28So that's a female question.
15:32Nothing wrong with it. It's a good question to ask. But men don't really think that way.
15:36Men don't really think that way. What we think of is
15:40we see somebody who's
15:44some terrible addict and they're skinny
15:48and unwell and sleeping on street corners and so on and we're like,
15:52that's a terrible shame
15:56and it's really, really sad.
16:00But for men, we know that if we provide resources
16:04to them, we have to take away resources from someone else.
16:08And really, it's our own family. So we look at
16:12someone like that and we say, look, I didn't create that situation. I'm not responsible for that situation.
16:16It's a bad situation. It's not my fault.
16:20I didn't create it. I didn't do it. I didn't abuse this person as a child. I didn't sell
16:24them drugs. I didn't offer them free whatever.
16:28I didn't traumatize them. I didn't beat them up. I didn't
16:32rob from them. So it's really, really sad. But I didn't do it.
16:36I have been a responsible, mature person. I've become a
16:40father and a productive member of my society and raised my children well and love my family.
16:44So it's not how do we help them. That's a female perspective
16:48which is that resources are infinite and you just have to be compassionate and people get taken
16:52care of and that's the virtue signaling stuff, right?
16:56For men, it's like, am I willing
17:00to harm my children's futures in order to try and
17:04help this person who's broken who I did not break?
17:08I did not break. And
17:12we can say, of course, about addicts that they no longer have free will because
17:16they're addicted. But that's for men. So women
17:20look at that in the moment and they say, well, they can't help themselves. They can't fix themselves. They have no free will.
17:24I understand all of that. But for the male perspective is,
17:28but they had free will. At some point, they made a choice
17:32to take the drugs, right? Say it's a drug addict or something, right?
17:36Or an alcoholic. So at some point, now you don't immediately become addicted.
17:40It's not like the first time you take a drink, you become addicted. You take a drink and you say,
17:44oh, gosh, that's really nice. I should try it again. And then you make that choice. And then, right,
17:48the addiction is, you can say it's diminishing free choice, but there is free choice at the beginning.
17:52Then you say, well, yes, but the people were abused as children and they're
17:56unhappy and it's like, I understand that. And they do have that choice, which is to
18:00try and deal with their unhappiness of having been abused as children, which I completely
18:04sympathize with. They can go to the library and read free books. They can keep journals
18:08which cost almost nothing. There are lots of free mental health resources for
18:12them to get therapy and so on. So they can take that approach or they can
18:16just drug themselves.
18:20And the male
18:24perspective is resources are finite.
18:28I did not break this person to try and help and fix this person. We'll
18:32take away from my family, we'll take away from my children, we'll take away from
18:36my village, my group or whatever, right? And
18:40I don't see that
18:44that's good. And then you have to say, no, no,
18:48he's beyond fixing, right? You understand that there are, I mean, my
18:52view, I mean, it's actually, you understand, it's my view. I don't know if there's a lot of research
18:56on this, but people can destroy their
19:00physical health to the point where good health becomes impossible, right?
19:04And people can destroy their mental health
19:08to the point where becoming mentally healthy, in my view,
19:12which is my opinion, my view, I've certainly seen it a bunch of times, but that doesn't mean that there's some sort of
19:16scientific study. Of course, anecdotal, but it's my perspective.
19:20Particularly with drugs, I mean, you can fry your brain
19:24and your synapses to the point where you can't
19:28put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
19:32It doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way. I mean, at some point,
19:36if you smoke enough cigarettes, you can never run a marathon. I mean, your lungs are just too wrecked.
19:40I mean, it could be when you're 60 or 70 or whatever, but
19:44yeah, there's a tipping point, right? At some point,
19:48the health becomes, like with alcoholism, at some point your health becomes so bad that
19:52there's really no return to a particularly healthy state.
19:56And again, it could be later in life or whatever, right? But knowing
20:00when further resources can't reverse the problem is also essential.
20:04It also is essential, right?
20:08A triage, right? It's triage. So, what do
20:12we do with the ones already broken that do not want
20:16help? You don't do anything.
20:20Because it's a violation
20:24of the non-agreement. I mean, you can go and help them if you want, obviously. I mean, if you have the resources
20:28and you want to go and open a center for people
20:32who are late-stage drug addicts, you can do all of that.
20:36It's your money. It's, you know, absolutely. But as a society, through the power
20:40of politics, what do we do? Well, we let
20:44private charity do whatever can help them.
20:48But my personal opinion is that they are
20:52certainly some of them, I mean, I guess you could try and make
20:56them comfortable. You keep them in out of the rain and you can give them some food and so on.
21:02I mean, if you've ever watched the show Intervention, there are people, I remember watching
21:06one, it was a guy who owned, he made a bunch of money with
21:10suntanning beds. And he was just an absolute
21:14crazed alcoholic, like one of these wake-and-drink kind of guys.
21:18And he was dying from alcoholism and his whole family
21:22and everyone, big intervention and so on. But he just, you know,
21:26they did their very best. He had money, he could have gone to rehab,
21:30but he just chose to drink himself to death anyway. Maybe it was beyond choice at that point, but that's the result
21:34of, you know, if the last domino falls because the first domino
21:38is flicked, well, you still flick the first domino and that was a choice.
21:42So even if it's all dominoes after that, you still flick the first one.
21:46And he just drank himself to death anyway. I mean, I spent decades
21:50trying to help my mother with her mental illness and I could not fix it.
21:54I could not do anything about it.
21:58What can I say, right? I mean, so
22:02what do we do about them? That is, we, what do
22:06we do about them? That's a female
22:10combined with politics becomes pathological
22:14altruism question. We don't do anything.
22:18Some people exist in this life and the best they can
22:22offer society is to be a warning of what not to do.
22:26So if you want to help them, you should help them.
22:30I'm a prevention guy, which means I want children to be treated well.
22:34Peacefulparenting.com, please share the link. I'm a
22:38prevention guy and if you want to be a try to cure guy,
22:42you can certainly do that. But as a society,
22:46there's nothing that we should ever force anyone to do. The response to
22:50addiction should not be coercive transfers of resources. I'm not saying you're suggesting that,
22:54alright. Are you banned from Twitter? And if so, is there
22:58a chance you could look at getting unbanned now that Elon owns the place? I have been unbanned
23:02from Twitter with no communication from Twitter,
23:06no apologies, no withdrawal of things that
23:10Twitter said that in my view were not entirely accurate about me and so on and so on.
23:14Alright. But no, I
23:18don't have any plans to post on Twitter.
23:22I
23:26don't miss managing the madhouse of general misperceptions
23:30and responding to endless falsehoods and
23:34errors and all of that. I just don't. I don't miss that at all
23:38and I really enjoy doing the work that I'm doing rather than wrangling
23:42with crazy people. Advancing the discipline of reason and philosophy
23:46is I think the best use of my time. Alright. What's next for you,
23:50after the peaceful parenting magnum opus, any stones
23:54unturned? Well, yes, I'm working
23:58on a new novel about how disasters in life arise from the
24:02little decisions at the beginning of things. So I'm really, really looking
24:06forward. I'm really enjoying working on that. I love the richness of working on fiction.
24:10Alright.
24:14Stefan, we're going to be starting the hunting season October 1st
24:18so you don't mind. Don't walk into the forest.
24:22October 1st? Yeah, because there's a couple different guys
24:26and I avoid it. And when does the hunting season end?
24:30No, but when does it end?
24:34When does it end?
24:38No, no, I know. So October 1st until when?
24:42December. I will absolutely stay out of the forest.
24:46Thank you for maintaining the paths.
24:50No, no, I appreciate that and thank you for maintaining the paths. I appreciate that.
24:54Good hunting.
24:58Okay, good hunting. Thank you.
25:16Why do people prefer echo chambers so much? How can they so
25:26viciously defend ideas so fragile that they cannot question their own world view?
25:30Well, most people's quote relationships
25:34are just like gossamer spider threads held together by shared delusions.
25:38So if you question your shared delusions
25:42with other people, these quote relationships fall apart.
25:46Most relationships are incredibly fragile based upon accepting a delusional
25:50narrative that is inflicted by power, brutality, abuse, and authority.
25:54Or fear of ostracism. I mean, you know, everybody's had this.
25:58I'm not telling you anything you don't know. Like everybody's had this situation
26:02where you're at some dinner party at some point in your life and someone's saying something
26:06that's just wrong and false and this and that and the other. And you're like, oh, but if I say
26:10something, if I bring the truth to bear and blah, blah, blah, blah, it's going to be tense.
26:14Everyone's going to get upset. So what are generally called
26:18relationships are shared delusions enforced by brutal ostracism.
26:22And so echo chambers are the only way that the unthinking
26:26can pretend to have any kind of connection with people. Like if we all believe the same lies,
26:30we can all get along. And it's very sad. To me, it's not worth erasing yourself
26:34and your thoughts and your curiosity in order to pretend
26:38to have a relationship with someone. Make a
26:42general prediction for the country over the course of the next 20-25 years.
26:46Worse and worse. How to build mental toughness and resiliency and how to manage
26:50stress and worries. How to cope. How to build mental toughness and resiliency and how to manage
26:54stress and worries. So how to manage stress and worries is pretty easy. Just have
26:58people in your life that are 100% dedicated to
27:02truth, reason, and reality and have great love for you and provide
27:06the same in return. Stress is fundamentally
27:10predicated on isolation. If you are isolated, then
27:14your stress is very high and that's because our systems, we have
27:18evolved as a social animals because we
27:22need the companionship of others in order to survive.
27:26And so we are punished with great fear and anxiety
27:30when we are isolated. Ostracism
27:34literally stimulates in people's minds the same
27:38pathways and mental circuitry as physical torture.
27:42So you have your own group that is bound together with bonds of reason,
27:46love, and virtue and resiliency will be yours.
27:50How to cope with the loss of a loved one, career, and or how to navigate
27:54life's ups and downs in a healthy manner. Well, don't expect everything to
27:58be smooth sailing. 90% of happiness is adjusting
28:02expectations. If you expect to be happy and trouble-free
28:06every day of your life, then you
28:10are not living in reality. So I do not expect every day to go
28:14well. I do not expect everything to be smooth sailing. When the smooth sailing happens, that's
28:18lovely, but I know the storms are always coming back. So if you adjust
28:22your expectations, then you can be happy. But if you
28:26have unrealistic expectations, then you will be unhappy.
28:30How to raise masculine, strong boys
28:34into men while also being a part-time dad because disciplining guidance is a challenge
28:38with a baby mama abuser.
28:42Well, the
28:46problem, of course, is that if you have a very aggressive mother for your children
28:50and you're estranged because she's a bad person, then the stronger
28:54you build your sons, the more she's going to be threatened and bring them
28:58down. So maybe something that you have to talk about them when they get older.
29:02If you were single, what kind of woman would you be looking for?
29:06Evidence, virtue, curiosity, clarity, passion,
29:10and so on. All right. I hope you're doing well, Stefan Molyneux.
29:14I am doing well. Thank you very much for asking. Will Republicans ever
29:18admit their plans won't fix the birth rate? Yeah, I mean,
29:22the birth rate collapse foundation is the result of hedonism,
29:26of telling people that short-term pleasure is the main goal
29:30of life because children are long-term
29:34pleasures, right? There's a lot of sacrifices at the beginning,
29:38and they are long-term pleasures. So yes, you have the discomfort
29:42of pregnancy, you have sleeplessness, you have crying, you have loss of
29:46independence, you have anxiety about their health. So kids
29:50are short-term sacrifice,
29:54long-term immense and incredible gain.
29:58And so, you just
30:02train people to be hedonistic. You train them that discipline is
30:06what, you know, you say that discipline is repression, man. You just, you don't know how
30:10to let loose, man. You don't know how to have fun. You don't know how to just stop being such a square,
30:14man. Just live for the moment, man. Enjoy, enjoy it, right?
30:18I remember someone telling me that
30:22he would go to these cottages on the weekends. I remember him telling me
30:26this story like, you know, here, this is what it's like up at the cottage, right? You've been maybe
30:30indulging in the wine and beer a little bit too much at night, and then the next day, everyone's just
30:34sort of sitting on the dock, kind of chilling, got some good tunes on. And some guy
30:38always comes up and says, hey, let's play Pictionary. And it's like, oh, don't be that guy.
30:42And it's like, yeah, okay, so that's hedonism, right? You drink too much, you've got a headache,
30:46your body is tired and achy from alcohol poisoning, and it's
30:50all just wretched and terrible. And then someone wants to come along and do something
30:54that actually stimulates your brain rather than staring like some bovine
30:58sodden brain half-poisoned uber-mammal into the
31:02middle distance because while listening to Druggie Rock.
31:06You just have to remind people
31:10of the benefits of discipline and sacrifice.
31:14But if you're just into what brings me pleasure in the moment,
31:18you won't ever really be interested in having children.
31:22All right. Okay, I will stop there. I thank everyone
31:26so much for your very kind support and thoughts.
31:30And I love you guys for the continuance of this conversation. Thank you, thank you so much.
31:34Have yourselves an absolutely wonderful, wonderful day. And if you could help out this
31:38philosophy conversation, I would really appreciate that.
31:42Bye.