Celebrate the illustrious journey of Bollywood veteran Suresh Oberoi as he turns 77 today (17th December)!! From his charismatic debut to becoming a stalwart in the industry, this video unfolds the captivating tale of Oberoi's four-decade-long Bollywood odyssey. Join us in a nostalgic exploration of his iconic roles, memorable performances, and the enduring impact he has made on Indian cinema.
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00:00:00 After Shraddhan Jalli, no heroine wanted to work with me.
00:00:05 And I refused to do negative roles.
00:00:08 People used to tell my wife, "Achha tha bichara, pahal ho gaya hai."
00:00:13 Ek film agar flop ho jaye na, hero,
00:00:16 phir wapas aane ke saal, saal-do-saal ghar beto,
00:00:19 tu chalaega kaun?
00:00:20 Arrest warrant, Suresh Kaur, DNA Travel,
00:00:23 three crores, check, bounce.
00:00:25 Ne koon check diya, kaun se bounce, main toh beechi mein...
00:00:27 Did this, you know, the history of Vivek and Aishwarya,
00:00:31 did that ever affect your friendship with Mr. Bachchan?
00:00:34 I never was afraid of this.
00:00:36 Suresh, I'm so happy to be meeting in your house
00:00:46 because your house is very special for us, you know.
00:00:48 All of us have loved coming to your house, down the ages.
00:00:51 Thank you so much, you're welcome any time.
00:00:54 And you know, when you told me this really funny thing,
00:00:57 you sent me a message yesterday,
00:00:59 you said, "My house is a no-smoking and no-anger zone."
00:01:03 I was most amused by that.
00:01:06 Yes, I had to tell that to my grandchildren.
00:01:08 I said, "There's no anger zone,
00:01:10 and then no English-speaking zone."
00:01:14 Achha?
00:01:15 Dadaji will speak only in Hindi with you.
00:01:18 Toh wo, they find it so difficult now, you know,
00:01:21 after that, and then, "Dadaji, ye English boli."
00:01:25 Achha?
00:01:26 Nice, fine.
00:01:27 (Laughter)
00:01:28 Yeh mene pehli baar suna, I've heard no smoking,
00:01:32 no English yeh mene pehli baar suna.
00:01:34 Nahi, but no-anger zone bohot zaruri hai.
00:01:36 Haan, woh toh hai.
00:01:37 So, how did you make it a no-anger zone?
00:01:39 Matlab, over the years you have...
00:01:41 Then they control themselves.
00:01:43 Because there's much area.
00:01:45 Baadum, "Achha, tum bhaar jaake ladna,
00:01:47 doosre room mein ladna."
00:01:48 Achha, achha, theek hai.
00:01:49 (Laughter)
00:01:50 We went for a program in Reliance once,
00:01:55 and I used this line there also.
00:01:58 I said, "Why don't you all make a place somewhere
00:02:01 in your office where there's a no-anger zone there?"
00:02:04 Wahan.
00:02:05 Toh they've done it.
00:02:07 Really?
00:02:08 Haan.
00:02:09 But actually, it's a damn good idea, you know.
00:02:10 Yeah.
00:02:11 Yeah, very good idea.
00:02:12 Har jagah honna chahiye, ek no-anger zone.
00:02:14 Jaise no smoking hai toh, no-anger bhi.
00:02:16 Yes, yes.
00:02:17 But how did you conquer your anger?
00:02:19 I did not conquer my anger,
00:02:22 but I tried to...
00:02:25 I tried everything.
00:02:28 I tried silly things like...
00:02:30 Ek pandit bola tha,
00:02:32 "Aap yeh shower kholke nahi,
00:02:33 yeh kardan niche rakho,
00:02:34 yeh thanda-thanda paani dalo."
00:02:36 Toh sab kuch kar liya, raste mein.
00:02:38 Red lights aate toh, I used to promise myself,
00:02:40 jab red light dekhonga, break baarunga,
00:02:42 I'll remind myself,
00:02:43 "I am a very peaceful soul.
00:02:47 I am a happy soul.
00:02:49 I don't get angry."
00:02:50 Toh aisa sab try ke nahi hua.
00:02:53 Finally, these sanskaras,
00:02:57 which...
00:02:58 See, sanskar is not that I get it from my father
00:03:01 and my grandfather
00:03:03 or my friends at school or college.
00:03:05 Sanskars are from janmas, no?
00:03:07 How many births the sanskar is.
00:03:10 So, to eradicate that sanskar
00:03:15 or shift it into a no-anger zone,
00:03:19 you have to do only meditation.
00:03:22 And meditate with the Almighty.
00:03:26 What I do, what I learn from Brahma Kumaris
00:03:29 is I take my soul,
00:03:31 my concentration,
00:03:32 to Shiv Bhagwan.
00:03:36 And that too is a light.
00:03:38 Okay.
00:03:39 It's not...
00:03:41 Not the murti.
00:03:42 Not Shankar murti, nor the Ling.
00:03:46 Only the light.
00:03:48 So, I look at the dot,
00:03:50 and then I...
00:03:52 And that has erased so many things of mine,
00:03:55 sanskars of mine.
00:03:56 Sanskar badalna aasan nahi hai.
00:03:59 But, eventually, you used to have quite a beautiful temper.
00:04:03 People were scared of you.
00:04:05 Nahi, woh tha, lekin thoda...
00:04:08 It's not good.
00:04:10 It's not good, yeah.
00:04:11 Did that affect your career in any way, your anger?
00:04:14 I've done so many good things along with it.
00:04:16 Time pe aana.
00:04:17 Kabhi petrol ke paise nahi maangna.
00:04:19 Kabhi takle pe, I'm a producer toh paise chhod bhi dena.
00:04:22 Dubbing jab tak accha nahi lage mujhe,
00:04:25 karte jaana.
00:04:26 Okay.
00:04:27 And never waste anybody's money,
00:04:29 or take a group of ten people with me.
00:04:32 Ki, make-up man tak nahi leke jata tha main.
00:04:35 Spot boy ek tha,
00:04:37 woh zaruri tha paani pilane ke liye.
00:04:39 Okay.
00:04:41 Usse pehle toh Subhash gaye, first film, he said,
00:04:44 "Kya rahi yeh radka achcha hai, nayanaya aaya,
00:04:46 khaali driver yeh saath aata hai."
00:04:48 Achha, because you're not used to it?
00:04:50 Haan, used to.
00:04:52 Paadme toh...
00:04:54 Kya, I'm used to it.
00:04:56 You didn't get corrupt as the success came,
00:04:59 ki, "Yaar, yeh entourage bhi badna ho chahiye."
00:05:01 Entourage isliye nahi rakha maine,
00:05:04 kyunki ek toh mujhe pasan nahi tha.
00:05:06 Doosra,
00:05:08 wahan ke log kya bolte the,
00:05:10 "Sahab, dekhiye, aap actor hai,
00:05:13 kisi ka ped chalta,
00:05:15 kisi ke ghar chala jaaye, chalega,
00:05:17 ek parivaad chalega,
00:05:18 yeh rakh lo,
00:05:19 ek make-up man rakh lo,
00:05:20 ek yeh rakh lo."
00:05:21 Toh finally, ab aake,
00:05:23 jab Vinod Khanna ke saath
00:05:25 ek film kar raha tha, "Insaaf",
00:05:27 ab aake,
00:05:29 ek woh ladka tha, jo mera make-up roast karta tha,
00:05:31 toh maine bola, "Tu phir mere saath chal,
00:05:33 doosri shooting mein."
00:05:34 Because what was happening is,
00:05:36 those days I was wearing a lot of beards and wigs and all that.
00:05:39 And uspe phir woh,
00:05:41 jo,
00:05:43 poori film ka jo hota tha na,
00:05:45 make-up man,
00:05:46 woh he won't get so much of time,
00:05:48 aada chhod ke jaana phir aap,
00:05:50 kulana.
00:05:51 I said, "Okay, fine."
00:05:52 Okay.
00:05:53 So then you started taking one more time.
00:05:55 Haan, but not for the films like,
00:05:57 Aitbaar and all those things,
00:05:58 where there was nothing there.
00:06:00 Only,
00:06:01 mera shuru hua,
00:06:02 jab mere yeh daadi, moochi, yeh woh sab
00:06:04 rakhne laga,
00:06:05 Amritsar poori ki tara.
00:06:07 Tab main aaya hai.
00:06:08 Then you had to.
00:06:09 Okay, okay.
00:06:10 I believe even now,
00:06:11 when you went for Animal,
00:06:12 which is just recently,
00:06:14 I mean, it's just here,
00:06:15 Animal, this is,
00:06:16 the blockbuster Animal we're talking about.
00:06:18 Even for Animal,
00:06:20 apparently you were the only one
00:06:22 who didn't take, have an entourage with you,
00:06:24 although it was offered to you.
00:06:26 Yeah, I told them I don't want it,
00:06:28 but I said, "Just give me one spot, bhai.
00:06:30 Who will take care of me.
00:06:32 And just give me your make-up man
00:06:34 and one of the assistants you gave me."
00:06:36 And they gave me the best of treatment.
00:06:39 Okay.
00:06:40 I was told that they gave a trainer,
00:06:42 a make-up man,
00:06:43 this or that.
00:06:44 Sab bhai entourage leke jaa rahe the.
00:06:46 Jisko leke jaana, leke jaa,
00:06:47 main toh yeh sab karta nahi.
00:06:49 I feel,
00:06:50 mujhe dookh hota hai producer ka,
00:06:52 bais aise barwaad karne ke liye.
00:06:54 You know, I'm,
00:06:56 I want to go back and talk to you
00:06:58 about a whole lot of things.
00:06:59 But I just need to jump start
00:07:01 to this animal,
00:07:03 because it is just such a beast
00:07:05 at the box office just now.
00:07:07 What was it like,
00:07:08 you have worked with Rishi Kapoor
00:07:10 and you had such a lovely relationship
00:07:12 with Rishi Kapoor.
00:07:13 And now you're working with Ranbir.
00:07:15 This is the latest.
00:07:16 What is the, you know,
00:07:18 tell me something about both father and son.
00:07:21 Son is a wonderful guy
00:07:23 and a wonderful actor.
00:07:25 And,
00:07:27 so very well behaved.
00:07:29 Itne achche sanskaar diye usko,
00:07:32 Neetu aur Rishi ne.
00:07:35 I even sent a WhatsApp message to Neetu.
00:07:38 I said,
00:07:39 aapne bahut achche sanskaar diya apne bachche ko.
00:07:41 He knows exactly how to behave.
00:07:44 A dignified person,
00:07:47 like you know,
00:07:49 like Raj Kapoor ji ke baare mein
00:07:51 mujhe kisi ne bola tha ek baar,
00:07:52 ek assistant ne,
00:07:53 ki yeh bole,
00:07:54 yaar,
00:07:55 unko bola tha ki,
00:07:57 dekho sir aap se itne bade director hai,
00:07:59 aapka camera left pe hona chahiye,
00:08:00 right pe kar diya director ne.
00:08:02 To,
00:08:03 man abla kya bola sir ne?
00:08:05 To bola,
00:08:06 I am not a director,
00:08:08 I am an actor.
00:08:10 Jo director is the boss.
00:08:13 Unhone ooltah rakha to bhi kar liya.
00:08:16 Okay.
00:08:17 That is so wonderful.
00:08:19 Actor, he is an actor,
00:08:20 he is not the director, yaar.
00:08:22 Okay.
00:08:23 This guy is very good.
00:08:25 His behaviour is excellent.
00:08:27 It's also,
00:08:28 he has done a role which is
00:08:30 totally,
00:08:31 totally different.
00:08:32 Totally different,
00:08:33 totally toxic,
00:08:34 totally testosterone.
00:08:35 Vanga, you know.
00:08:36 Vanga, yaar.
00:08:37 Kabir Singh, yaar, yaar.
00:08:39 He loves those things.
00:08:41 He is such a,
00:08:43 some,
00:08:45 I mean,
00:08:47 he is so passionate about his work.
00:08:50 Chote se bachche ki dubbing kar raha tha,
00:08:52 thoda se upar kar,
00:08:54 thoda se deeshe kar,
00:08:55 aisa karo, aisa kar.
00:08:56 With those bachche ke saath ho?
00:08:58 Every, nahi, bachche ko,
00:09:00 even for the small details,
00:09:02 he was there present himself.
00:09:04 Yeh nahi ki, jao assistant tum log karwa lo.
00:09:06 I believe he didn't recognise you
00:09:08 when you went for dubbing.
00:09:10 He says, what is this so different?
00:09:12 Aapka, kare toh full raat din,
00:09:14 raat bair ko is, is roop mein dekh raha hai,
00:09:16 safayad, chitni badi badi,
00:09:18 the whole day you were editing and
00:09:20 dubbing, toh, abhi suddenly you see
00:09:22 me like this, he says, no,
00:09:24 something else. He says, no, you're looking fresh.
00:09:26 Acha.
00:09:28 Main de bala tension hain nahi leta,
00:09:30 main. I think
00:09:32 best policies, not to,
00:09:34 meri mother ke line thi, main,
00:09:36 hamesha har jagah use kar leta.
00:09:38 Punjabi mein, pata nahi main,
00:09:40 30-40 saal pehle kiske liye,
00:09:42 kuch bol diya hoga, uska
00:09:44 dekho, kuch itna se bura karta hai,
00:09:46 yeh hai, wo hai, phir bhi usko Bhagwan nahi,
00:09:48 nothing like that I said.
00:09:50 Yeh duniya mein aise logi
00:09:52 taraki ka tarak, unhe ho raha hai,
00:09:54 puttar,
00:09:56 jinnu Rab ne vadi aaya,
00:09:58 udnal bair ki,
00:10:00 patlab jisko Bhagwan
00:10:02 ne bada banaya, ya vadi aaya,
00:10:04 ek position diya hai, how can you
00:10:06 ever have,
00:10:08 speak against that position,
00:10:10 because that God has given you,
00:10:12 so that means you're going against God.
00:10:14 Uske baad har cheez mein,
00:10:16 kisi ka paisa ho,
00:10:18 naam ho, shorat ho, husuti ho,
00:10:20 good body ho, I mean usko Rab ne vadi aaya.
00:10:22 If you look at it like that, you won't question it.
00:10:26 Best hai.
00:10:28 Best hai. Isili uske baad
00:10:30 usse na kabhi jala.
00:10:32 But aap aise nahi the pehle,
00:10:34 because I remember
00:10:36 when you first came in, and you were doing
00:10:38 so many movies, everybody
00:10:40 felt you were the next, you were
00:10:42 equal,
00:10:44 equal to the other
00:10:46 baritone that we have in the industry,
00:10:48 because your baritone
00:10:50 is just as
00:10:52 popular,
00:10:54 it's just as good,
00:10:56 everybody knows you
00:10:58 for your voice.
00:11:00 Anil Kapoor se 25,000
00:11:02 rupees zyada liye the,
00:11:04 kisi responsibility
00:11:06 thi, Thikana, I think
00:11:08 Mahesh Bhatt.
00:11:10 I was getting good money,
00:11:12 good price, everything.
00:11:14 The only thing is, a few people
00:11:16 didn't want me to work with them. Fine,
00:11:18 it's okay. But did you ever
00:11:20 hear why somebody didn't want to work
00:11:22 with you?
00:11:24 Kyu nahi karna chahate hai, aap batao?
00:11:26 Mujhe nahi maal lo, why would you
00:11:28 not want a good actor in your film? See, tell me something,
00:11:30 supposing somebody is
00:11:32 a better actor than me, or does,
00:11:34 can steal, wo bolte hai na,
00:11:36 scene stealer,
00:11:38 something like that, kar liya aapka,
00:11:40 toh mera neeche nahi ho jaa, yaar doosre
00:11:42 bhi chamche kitne gumane wale hote hain logon ke,
00:11:44 something, then what will they say?
00:11:46 Nahi yaar, wo bada
00:11:48 tang karta hai, kuch bhi bolte hain,
00:11:50 they won't say ki, I, I,
00:11:52 I am scared.
00:11:54 There were people like Jitinder aur
00:11:56 Mitton, unko kuchhi nahi jaata tha,
00:11:58 Maximum film, Mitton, mitton ko
00:12:00 kya bharu padta tha, wo dance karta tha, naastha laga chal,
00:12:02 uske saath maximum film hai ki main.
00:12:04 Un, in logon ko,
00:12:06 So they had no insecurities? Nahi, inko kuch problem
00:12:08 nahi hota tha. Okay.
00:12:10 Character actor jab main bana, isliye main
00:12:12 isliye bana, kyunki, I knew that
00:12:14 ek film agar
00:12:16 flop ho jaye na, hero ki,
00:12:18 phir wapas aane saal, saal do saal ghar
00:12:20 beto, toh chalayega koun?
00:12:22 I, I didn't have money
00:12:24 from my parents. Right.
00:12:26 Mere paas ghar bhi nahi tha,
00:12:28 main, meri bichche, meri mother,
00:12:30 so ghar chalane ke liye toh
00:12:32 I said, first security of money, baad bhai
00:12:34 sochenge career, that is why I did
00:12:36 every role and people got confused.
00:12:38 In spite of that,
00:12:40 I am grateful to Mukul,
00:12:42 who gave me a role
00:12:44 like, a romantic
00:12:46 role, everybody said,
00:12:48 tu paagal hai, dimble ke saamne
00:12:50 gazal gaayega, uske dekhi
00:12:52 picture hit hoi thi meri,
00:12:54 kaunse villain ki ek hoi thi.
00:12:56 People said, negative role, actor.
00:12:58 After
00:13:00 Shraddhanjali,
00:13:02 no heroine wanted
00:13:04 to work with me.
00:13:06 Itna bada villain hai, wo uske saamne hai.
00:13:08 Hamara career khara ho jaye,
00:13:10 hum toh hero ke saath kaam kar, he is not a hero.
00:13:12 Oh,
00:13:14 heroines thought you were not
00:13:16 a hero because you were such, so
00:13:18 effective as a villain in
00:13:20 Shraddhanjali. Shraddhanjali
00:13:22 ka pata nahi kya ho gaya tha, my doctor's wife
00:13:24 didn't talk to me.
00:13:26 Those days I was living in,
00:13:28 (laughs)
00:13:30 Sachhi mein bol raha ho,
00:13:32 I said Gautam, teri wife
00:13:34 ne, wo tumse baat nahi gaya,
00:13:36 she saw Shraddhanjali.
00:13:38 Baap, but that is a compliment
00:13:40 to you na, that you were so effective
00:13:42 in that role. I know, but kya hota hai na,
00:13:44 itna aapka ek, us zaman mein
00:13:46 na, aaj se 80s mein
00:13:48 image bahut powerful hua karta tha.
00:13:50 Jiska image yeh hai, toh
00:13:52 doosre log nahi kaam karte the.
00:13:54 I am grateful to,
00:13:56 yeh kaise maan gayi malum nahi hai,
00:13:58 dimble, ki mai gaana galun
00:14:00 aur wo kar le ki, nahi toh
00:14:02 I was surprised how did she say yes to me.
00:14:04 Okay.
00:14:06 Nahi toh us zaman mein koi nahi kata tha.
00:14:08 You've never been one of those romantic,
00:14:10 you know,
00:14:12 Shahrukh Khan kind of, you know,
00:14:14 gaane gaao aur ladkiyon ko pataao,
00:14:16 you've never been that kind of.
00:14:18 I always wanted to do those army type of roles,
00:14:20 police roles,
00:14:22 aisa sab karna chahata tha, lekin
00:14:24 main ek film kiya tha Rajshree ki,
00:14:28 wo with the child,
00:14:30 abhi yaad aajaayega naam.
00:14:32 Rajshree film?
00:14:34 Rajshree ki kiya tha as a lead role.
00:14:36 Tumne,
00:14:40 us kya tha,
00:14:42 Tumhare bina.
00:14:44 Tumhare bina, okay, okay.
00:14:46 Us pe sab hai, comedy hai,
00:14:48 bachhe ka relationship hai,
00:14:50 romantic scene hai, romantic songs bhi hai.
00:14:52 Aise doon teen picture aur pe kiya tha bhai.
00:14:54 But even that
00:14:56 film was a silo chukli.
00:14:58 But yet that didn't give you
00:15:00 that hero ka stamp,
00:15:02 na?
00:15:04 See, aapko kya hai na, abhi Shahrukh Khan,
00:15:06 jab ek inke film kiya,
00:15:08 Abbas Hustan ki, thoda sa negative,
00:15:10 aur wo Shraddhan ji thi,
00:15:12 main negative karne ke baad,
00:15:14 people loved me and they gave me
00:15:16 double the money.
00:15:18 But, aaj kya hai,
00:15:20 log sab roles karte hai, us time pe
00:15:22 main jab karta tha log, ki kaisa
00:15:24 ho sakta hai tum sab role karte ho yaar.
00:15:26 Kare toh, kaisa setup
00:15:28 banaye aapke saath, koi heroine
00:15:30 kaam thodi karegi, aapka imaging
00:15:32 villain wala hai. Main le bhai jo bhi hai,
00:15:34 merko waise kaam aane de, and one thing
00:15:36 Vinod Maharaj told me, kuch bhi
00:15:38 logon ko bolne de,
00:15:40 tu ek kaam kar, tu bas
00:15:42 character actor mein, tu number one ban sakta hai.
00:15:44 Don't go
00:15:46 beyond it ki merko hero banna hai,
00:15:48 apni jagah tu best
00:15:50 hai na, be number one
00:15:52 as a character actor.
00:15:54 And that worked.
00:15:56 Kyon, ek thi bhabhi
00:15:58 meri maa jo Shashi Kapoor
00:16:00 ke friend ka role kiya, kya role diya?
00:16:02 Yes.
00:16:04 Sultan Ahmed ki pichcharon mein kaise kaise
00:16:06 ishe roles kiya hai. Yes.
00:16:08 Tehzaad mein kitna chhi role diya hai.
00:16:10 I mean character actor itself is like
00:16:12 a hero there na. Yes. Aap bur rahe hai
00:16:14 hero, villain accept nahi karte hai,
00:16:16 even the government of India didn't accept
00:16:18 ke waha ke jab meri film release
00:16:20 hui thi, hit hui thi, kaunse film
00:16:22 hui thi, wo, Bitch Masala.
00:16:24 Usme bhi bhile, how can you give the best
00:16:26 actors award,
00:16:28 he is not the hero of the film.
00:16:30 To bhi bhile, wo log bole,
00:16:32 aapas mein discussion kisi nahi karte, hero
00:16:34 nahi hai to wo nahi milega kya? Hero to
00:16:36 subject hai is picture ka. Isme to
00:16:38 koi hero nahi hai. Female hai,
00:16:40 Parvita Patil is the hero. Toh leh nahi toh
00:16:42 kya karenge? Toh then they all
00:16:44 got together and created a
00:16:46 role that day. Hmm.
00:16:48 Of the best supporting actor. Okay.
00:16:50 Then I got the national award.
00:16:52 Toh us din se liya hai, baaki
00:16:54 logon ko sabko fayada. For Bitch Masala.
00:16:56 That's right. Yeah.
00:16:58 Back in the 80s, 85, 86.
00:17:00 Yeah. Toh then
00:17:02 unko dena tha toh dekho
00:17:04 jisko dena hai, Kursa ko
00:17:06 dhond hi leti. Did you feel nice winning
00:17:08 the national award? I started crying,
00:17:10 I couldn't talk on the phone, I gave the
00:17:12 phone, wo zamane mein wo wale phone ho
00:17:14 tha. Aisa, meri vibe
00:17:16 roh kyu rahe hai, let sun. Toh udhar se
00:17:18 phone aaya tha. Yet you won the
00:17:20 national award. Yeah, and then us
00:17:22 radio tha, toh radio lagaya, us pe bhi aagaya
00:17:24 and I was like, yeah. Wow. I couldn't.
00:17:26 Wow. So that was one of the
00:17:28 highs of your career, isn't it? Yeah,
00:17:30 and that night I remember
00:17:32 Anil Kapoor called me from Shawana's
00:17:34 house and both of them spoke to
00:17:36 me. And then I had a night
00:17:38 shooting, aarey aaj cancer hai gaya
00:17:40 aur hamda din kaha.
00:17:42 Yeah, that's nice of them. That
00:17:44 kind of camaraderie was there, na, between
00:17:46 you and all the guys? Mere ghar mein toh har doosre
00:17:48 din shooting ke baad, raat ko baara
00:17:50 driver used to be a cook.
00:17:52 My boys, everything but
00:17:54 used to be a cook. Ghar mein aage Chinese
00:17:56 cook, paghna aage, shooting
00:17:58 ke kitne logon ko le aata tha. Aaj chal na
00:18:00 ghar chal. Okay. Sab chalte the,
00:18:02 aate the, I had a 15-seater
00:18:04 this thing. Usme bhi sab ko bitha le
00:18:06 aata tha. Srinath sahab aate the
00:18:08 ke ghar chale jaate the hum kabhi.
00:18:10 Danny ke ghar pe every third
00:18:12 day, Kintya used to be there.
00:18:14 Bina poochhe bole, malu rehta tha
00:18:16 aarey shaam ko. Toh
00:18:18 wo tha aaye, but after
00:18:20 Bukul's death and all that then.
00:18:22 And also phir, after 1985,
00:18:24 my brother's death, mein yeh bhi change ho gaye.
00:18:26 You come from very
00:18:28 non-film family and
00:18:30 you not just
00:18:32 made it in films, but now you've become a proper
00:18:34 film family. Aapka beta bhi ho gaya hai.
00:18:36 Your, even your
00:18:38 brother's son also.
00:18:40 Sister's son is also
00:18:42 in production.
00:18:44 He's also come to Bombay.
00:18:46 Okay.
00:18:48 But Akshay and Vivek have really
00:18:50 made it. Yeah.
00:18:52 And their cousins, they've worked together also.
00:18:54 Akshay is doing very well on OTT.
00:18:56 Very, very well.
00:18:58 And there is Inside Edge,
00:19:00 there's a serial, jahan dono
00:19:02 ne kaam kiya hai. Yeah. Yeah. Which is
00:19:04 really interesting. I could see that serial.
00:19:06 Acha aapne dekhi nahi? First serial
00:19:08 dekhi, mein bara mujhe nahi dekhna. Kyu?
00:19:10 I found it very wild.
00:19:12 Violent? Wild.
00:19:14 Wild?
00:19:16 Wild patne. Okay.
00:19:18 Yeah, it is wild.
00:19:20 Akshay plays a gay.
00:19:22 He plays a gay captain of a
00:19:24 cricket captain who's
00:19:26 gay and who
00:19:28 is hiding it obviously
00:19:30 from the public for some
00:19:32 time. But by the second or third
00:19:34 season, he's out in the field
00:19:36 with his lover and kissing
00:19:38 him in front of the cameras and all that.
00:19:40 Yeah. Acha hua nahi dekha main.
00:19:42 Nahi usne bola,
00:19:44 nahi Vivek ne bola,
00:19:46 aap pehli baad sun raha hoon.
00:19:48 And I didn't want to see that thing.
00:19:50 OTT ki mein dekhte
00:19:52 nahi, koi censor hi nahi hote hai.
00:19:54 That's true. Vaise bhi itni
00:19:56 problem hai. That's true. How do you
00:19:58 like seeing Vivek's career,
00:20:00 the way it has been going? Very
00:20:02 well. But he
00:20:04 did have a little bit of
00:20:06 a, what do you call it, it took
00:20:08 off very well and then had a problem and then
00:20:10 you know. Main bhi ek saal ghar beta
00:20:12 usme ke. Acha.
00:20:14 So when Vivek has to settle down.
00:20:16 When I said I will not, when I refused to do
00:20:18 negative roles
00:20:20 in 80 something, I don't
00:20:22 remember, people used to tell
00:20:24 my wife, achha tha beechara,
00:20:26 pakal ho gaya.
00:20:28 Pakal ho gaya?
00:20:30 Acha tha beechara,
00:20:32 paanch paanch lakh
00:20:34 log dene ko tayyaar hai.
00:20:36 Us time pe one lakh or fifty or two.
00:20:38 It was a big amount. Yes.
00:20:40 Toh nahi karna hai,
00:20:42 toh nahi karna hai.
00:20:44 Band ho gaye, toh main apne gazal sikhne lag jata tha.
00:20:46 Pretty late. Haan mere teacher
00:20:48 aata tha, then mere bhaalishwala
00:20:50 aata tha, then Mickey
00:20:52 aata tha ek ladka, who is now
00:20:54 a big guy in his
00:20:56 yoga instructor
00:20:58 guru has become.
00:21:00 I was his first student. Ok.
00:21:02 Motorbike pe aaye ke upar, seventh floor pe se
00:21:04 drum drum. Haan.
00:21:06 Nahi yaar aaj, paanch minute, paanch minute.
00:21:08 Phir den do gante,
00:21:10 teen gante kar dete. Ok.
00:21:12 Kyuki kya karein, kaam toh hai nahi.
00:21:14 Phir aaya yeh,
00:21:16 aithbaar. Ok,
00:21:18 correct. And usme toh you fit the role
00:21:20 correctly with that as a singer also.
00:21:22 Fit the role hai,
00:21:24 lekin
00:21:26 inki brave
00:21:28 guys like
00:21:30 producer and the director, thanks to them.
00:21:32 I am grateful to them. And to Dimple,
00:21:34 who agreed to do it. Haan, Dimple ko
00:21:36 padhe hai. After a long gap she came.
00:21:38 Ya, that's right. Ya.
00:21:40 It was a very nice film, even if
00:21:42 it didn't do, it was not a box office
00:21:44 hit, but it did work. That song was the biggest
00:21:46 hit in the world. Exactly.
00:21:48 Ya, that song has outlasted everything else.
00:21:50 Aur uske baad same,
00:21:52 hum log to Dimple ko,
00:21:54 sab ko leke, mujhe
00:21:56 Vinod ke opposite dala, Khanna ke.
00:21:58 Hmm. Yes.
00:22:00 That's right. I did that also.
00:22:02 Aise kuch nahi, toh yeh diya role,
00:22:04 yeh diya, yeh bhi karunga. Hmm.
00:22:06 What was it like working with Vinod
00:22:08 Khanna?
00:22:10 Vinod was very nice. Ok.
00:22:12 He didn't have these complexes that some of the
00:22:14 other heroes had. Ki yeh mera,
00:22:16 iski aawaz itni achi hai,
00:22:18 your voice was even better than his.
00:22:20 Ki wo...
00:22:22 Abhi kisko, kisko nahi hai,
00:22:24 batao. Sabko rahata hai na, thoda woh.
00:22:26 Usme kya hai? Thoda jalo,
00:22:28 thoda insecure. Sabko mujhe, mujhe bhi ho jayati
00:22:30 agar mere saamne ka artiste mere ko
00:22:32 itna acha kar raha hai aur mai bilkoli
00:22:34 usse kam kar raha hai. Toh hota hai na,
00:22:36 kisse nahi hota hai. Ok. In one
00:22:38 small film, Chutput mein, ek actor
00:22:40 dakhaya, yaad bhi nahi, kaun tha.
00:22:42 Usko bola hi kuch nahi gaya mere
00:22:44 saamne. Baad mein bolta, ek din
00:22:46 main aapke jaahe rahe hoon, aap mere
00:22:48 jaahe rahe henge, dekhna, I am leaving the film.
00:22:50 Chalaga hai, set se. And I didn't
00:22:52 even know him, I was not even introduced.
00:22:54 He left because
00:22:56 you were better than him? No, but he
00:22:58 could speak. In front of you?
00:23:00 He could speak a dialogue. Nahi, usko
00:23:02 kya ho gaya tha, maro nahi. Blank ho gaya tha.
00:23:04 And did he come back? Aur saara ka saara...
00:23:06 And he said that I will come back? Bola,
00:23:08 main ek din, aapke saamne hoon aur kisi aur film
00:23:10 mein. Aaya nahi na?
00:23:12 Nahi phir toh, hum dekha pehne usko.
00:23:14 Main bol, yaha tak hota hai jab hona
00:23:18 hai, nahi hona, nahi hona. But I am so surprised,
00:23:20 you know, Suresh, I never thought
00:23:22 people would have this kind of insecurities.
00:23:24 Insecurities bhi hai, pata nahi.
00:23:26 Mereko ko asaani se abhi,
00:23:28 a person like
00:23:30 in film, Istan Studio
00:23:32 mein, kiska
00:23:34 ek role tha main, I was playing a police
00:23:36 officer, don't remember who's role.
00:23:38 I saw Amjad, I was a great fan of his.
00:23:40 I went to meet him, I said,
00:23:42 Sir, I am Suresh Oberoi.
00:23:44 Oh, you are the same.
00:23:46 Ek baar phir.
00:23:48 Hum log superstar aise hota hai?
00:23:52 Yeh dikhaate hoon.
00:23:54 2021, public mein, I was in tears.
00:23:56 That also I have
00:23:58 seen in my life, usme kya hai?
00:24:00 It's okay. But that was the role you did.
00:24:02 Baat mein Anand
00:24:04 Sagar ne samjhaya usko,
00:24:06 you can't speak like this.
00:24:08 Because you can't be
00:24:10 subjective, objective, jo bhi bola tha,
00:24:12 usko achha bola tha.
00:24:14 I said, no, you can't do that to me.
00:24:16 So you mean to say, you
00:24:18 played a very bigda hua
00:24:20 superstar in Ek baar phir,
00:24:22 lekin wo to role tha na?
00:24:24 Nahi, you said, bahot zyada usko low light pe dikhaya hai,
00:24:26 ladkiyaan aur yeh yeh paisa,
00:24:28 maangna dollar ka paisa maangna,
00:24:30 log jeweller rakhi aarey hain,
00:24:32 thoda zyada kar diya tha Pandey ne.
00:24:34 Dinod Pandey.
00:24:36 To abhi main usko,
00:24:38 ek hi line bola, end mein bola,
00:24:40 sir ek aap baas batayiye,
00:24:42 jiske jeb mein paanch pound nahi hai,
00:24:44 usko koi aake bola ki,
00:24:46 dir ko paise bhi donga, hero bhi banaunga, London bhi le jaunga.
00:24:48 To mila aap chodte the
00:24:50 ke us time?
00:24:52 Then he said,
00:24:54 yeah, you're right,
00:24:56 agar yeh dharam karta toh sahi,
00:24:58 galat tha, new comer,
00:25:00 theek hai.
00:25:02 Kabhi bhi kuch bhi kaam hote kaha,
00:25:04 I'm always there for you.
00:25:06 Badno change hoga hai, aisa nahi hai.
00:25:08 Koi bhi any problem, I'm there.
00:25:10 He really said,
00:25:12 aarey mere jeb mein paanch pound nahi hai,
00:25:14 and I have to play a superstar.
00:25:16 And mere baas,
00:25:18 wo tak nahi tha passport.
00:25:20 I went to his passport,
00:25:22 I begged him, I said,
00:25:24 mere ko role mil raha hai sir, please de dijiye.
00:25:26 This is for you to shoot Vinod Pandey's
00:25:28 birthday in London.
00:25:30 Yeh kaise destiny banti hai,
00:25:32 dekho, main milne gaya tha,
00:25:34 Sippy se.
00:25:36 Which Sippy? Daddu.
00:25:38 Daddu is Raj Sippy.
00:25:40 Sippy se milne gaya.
00:25:42 Udhar se,
00:25:44 kisi ke office se,
00:25:46 yeh ne, Kuku nikal raha tha,
00:25:48 Kuljeet Singh.
00:25:50 I knew him from
00:25:52 the institute.
00:25:54 I met him once, he was not in my batch,
00:25:56 I was not in his batch,
00:25:58 he was senior.
00:26:00 I met him in the institute.
00:26:02 I said,
00:26:04 "Yaar, kaisa chal raha hai kaam?"
00:26:06 I was very worried.
00:26:08 I get modelling, sometimes radio,
00:26:10 I don't have any role.
00:26:12 And I am fed up of struggling.
00:26:14 He said, "Yaar, mere paas ek role aaya tha,
00:26:16 ek Pandey
00:26:18 aadmi aaya hai,
00:26:20 aaj tak mere ko wo kaan me yaadar ho,
00:26:22 Pochkan wala street me
00:26:24 yeh falana falana flat hai,
00:26:26 Pochkan wala.
00:26:28 Toh main uska
00:26:30 number kahin se dhoonda, wo diya
00:26:32 usne.
00:26:34 Toh main ghar aaya,
00:26:36 ghar aake coin box se
00:26:38 phone kiya.
00:26:40 Halla, "Hallo", Pandey uthaya,
00:26:42 toh main bhala, "Sir,
00:26:44 aap hero ko dhoond rahe hain, main hero nahin lagta ho,
00:26:46 meri mooch badi badi hai."
00:26:48 Us zamane mein mooch itti badi nahi hodi thi.
00:26:50 Shammi Kapoor waqar yaar,
00:26:52 Raj Kapoor waqar.
00:26:54 Everybody was clean shaven.
00:26:56 Main liye.
00:26:58 Toh, "Nahin nahin,
00:27:00 aap milne aajao."
00:27:02 Toh main usko poocha, wo dukhan wale,
00:27:04 ande bandhya padhe the,
00:27:06 "Yaar se wo taxi me kitna
00:27:08 lagay?" "30 rupee."
00:27:10 "Sir, phir?" "Nahin nahin, abhi aao."
00:27:12 Main aake ghar
00:27:14 bhai gaya, Yashi ko bola,
00:27:16 "30 rupee lagenge."
00:27:18 "Aana,
00:27:20 thakawa raat ko aao, phir 30 lagenge."
00:27:22 "Aar 60 rupee
00:27:24 lagenge." "50 rupee toh hafte me
00:27:26 ghar chalta hai." "Saat
00:27:28 rupee kaise?" "Jao."
00:27:30 Toh main jaake phir
00:27:32 gaya.
00:27:34 Toh isne
00:27:36 itni moti saamne,
00:27:38 "Haan." Main bhi, "Iske kya karu?"
00:27:40 Main bhi, "Sir, kaise yaad
00:27:42 kar lunga?" "Let me take it home."
00:27:44 "No. Ye ruler, ye
00:27:46 mic rakho aur main padhte jaunge
00:27:48 tum dialogue bolte jaa."
00:27:50 Toh wo jo,
00:27:52 bola tha ek line,
00:27:54 "Le, dosto,
00:27:56 dosto, thoda hatke."
00:27:58 You know, because I had learnt
00:28:00 how to speak on mic and
00:28:02 radio from Brij Bhushan.
00:28:04 "Okay." Brij Bhushan
00:28:06 was married to
00:28:08 Meena Kumar's
00:28:10 Mala, Madhubala
00:28:12 sister. "So, Brij
00:28:14 Bhushan introduced you to the
00:28:16 various ways of using the mic and throwing
00:28:18 your voice?" "No, no.
00:28:20 Brij Bhushan taught me how to
00:28:22 stand in front of the mic and
00:28:24 how to modulate." "Okay."
00:28:26 He said, "Awaaz toh kai logon ke issue hoti hai.
00:28:28 Isko aise karna hai. Ye feeling dalna
00:28:30 hai. Ye dalna hai. Bohot se,
00:28:32 like a guru to a disciple." "Oh,
00:28:34 lovely." "Toh, wo saare technique
00:28:36 use karke uske dialogue, jaise
00:28:38 Pandey bol raha tha, usse achcha bol raha tha."
00:28:40 "Okay." "I was trained by them."
00:28:42 "Yeah, yeah." Toh
00:28:44 he said, "Mujh mein toh, kuch na kuch
00:28:46 yaar, fire lagta hai, achcha lagta hai."
00:28:48 Toh mein bila, andar hi pray kar raha tha,
00:28:50 chalo picture mil jaye mera. "Yeah."
00:28:52 Toh baad mein bola ki, "Hum log weekly payment
00:28:54 dete hain, aisa contract kondi." "Mela,
00:28:56 bhai, jo bhi deve yaar." "De do."
00:28:58 Finally, he liked it and he
00:29:00 asked me if you have a passport
00:29:02 and I said, "Yes." So,
00:29:04 how, how the universe
00:29:08 helps, you know, and things
00:29:10 are already, I think, predestined.
00:29:12 Because, I didn't
00:29:14 even know what we're doing. We're just walking on the
00:29:16 road, my wife and me. And I met
00:29:18 a Sindhi guy who was
00:29:20 about a few blocks away. I said,
00:29:22 "Aap kya karte ho?" Toh bila,
00:29:24 "Main passport banata hoon, logon ke."
00:29:26 "Achcha, travel agency bhi hai."
00:29:28 "Very good. Aap mere liye
00:29:30 bhi kar dijiye." My wife started
00:29:32 laughing. She said, "Tum, main,
00:29:34 tumko kya malam hai? Mel koi bhi producer
00:29:36 bole ki tumko bahar le jana hai,
00:29:38 outdoor passport hai, toh rahna chahiye."
00:29:40 Toh picture ek bhi nahi thi uss
00:29:42 time pe. So,
00:29:44 and finally,
00:29:46 I gave money to him to
00:29:48 fill in the form and all that.
00:29:50 Photo toh dekhi, bhar diya tha.
00:29:52 And after I came back
00:29:54 from, I remembered, from Pandey's
00:29:56 house, I remembered suddenly,
00:29:58 "Adi yaar, isko main pehle, wo diya tha."
00:30:00 I went to his house, "Urani,
00:30:02 usse kaisa sa ho, toh la time
00:30:04 lagega, yeh hai, wo hai." Toh usse jaake,
00:30:06 "Bhar toh zo."
00:30:08 Bhar ke usne jo bhi diya,
00:30:10 kaagaz ko bhi diya tha. And I
00:30:12 went there to
00:30:14 passport office.
00:30:16 And yeh waha toh, aise lagta tha ki,
00:30:18 third class train jo hai na,
00:30:20 Andheri station se bhi zyada rush.
00:30:22 Dhakka, dhakki.
00:30:24 Nobody knew.
00:30:26 Nobody knew how, kaun aa raha hai,
00:30:28 kaun jaa raha hai, kaan mila hai, passport office,
00:30:30 wo, wo, wo, wo,
00:30:32 puraani koi bhi bhi,
00:30:34 mahaan paunch gaya. Toh that guy is looking
00:30:36 at me, "What?"
00:30:38 I said, "Are you mad?
00:30:40 Do din mein toh kuchhi hai,
00:30:42 how can it be?"
00:30:44 He said, "Sir, it's a question of my career."
00:30:46 Yeh hai, apne waare mein bola,
00:30:48 "Okay, come day after
00:30:50 tomorrow."
00:30:52 Do din mein passport diya.
00:30:54 Mil gaya, un dinon mein,
00:30:56 80s mein. Okay,
00:30:58 fantastic. That's how, when things
00:31:00 have to fall into place, they just do.
00:31:02 Isn't it?
00:31:04 This is God's will.
00:31:06 Kuku told you about this offer from Vinod Pandey,
00:31:08 you went to Vinod Pandey. And before that,
00:31:10 I was getting trained. You were getting trained in your voice.
00:31:12 And also getting money from him.
00:31:14 But ek baad phir was a very
00:31:16 strong film, isn't it?
00:31:18 Yeah, very strong. Hila ki rag liya tha sabko.
00:31:20 Women loved it.
00:31:22 Yes.
00:31:24 It was just some kind of
00:31:26 a liberation for them, na? But you know,
00:31:28 you played a very toxic superstar
00:31:30 in that and a bad husband in that.
00:31:32 Bad as in, you know. He was a bad man.
00:31:34 Yeah, he was a bad man. Yeah, bad man.
00:31:36 Nobody did that for you.
00:31:38 Kamaljeet ne naa bola,
00:31:40 Hari bhai ne naa bola, sab ne naa bola tha.
00:31:42 Isli toh main...
00:31:44 Easily aapke paas aage gaya,
00:31:46 which is good for you.
00:31:48 But did that also help
00:31:50 to further consolidate
00:31:52 you as a bad man?
00:31:54 No, that
00:31:56 made a lot of
00:31:58 secretaries, wo zamane mein na,
00:32:00 bahot control karte the, heroines ko.
00:32:02 Wo toh ne, woh bahot gande film kiya hai.
00:32:04 Tumhara image kharap ho jayega.
00:32:06 Ab ladki ko bolte image kharap ho jayega,
00:32:08 aur koi hero gaam nahi ke raha ke dekha.
00:32:10 So secretaries were
00:32:12 influencing the heroines.
00:32:14 No, but secretaries had the
00:32:16 belief system in them.
00:32:18 Ki ek hero, hero hai,
00:32:20 judge ka beta, judge hai, police ka beta,
00:32:22 police hai, yeh, ek role
00:32:24 hai toh hai. Matlab,
00:32:26 fixed hai uska.
00:32:28 Yeah.
00:32:30 Iska, haan, they used to use the word image.
00:32:32 Iska yeh image hai.
00:32:34 That's where that word typecasting came also.
00:32:36 Typecasting image ban gayi isko.
00:32:38 How did Shraddhanjali
00:32:40 come about? That was another big
00:32:42 film for you. Shraddhanjali
00:32:44 the mother was doing, mother.
00:32:46 And I was doing some film with
00:32:48 Rekha, Rakhi.
00:32:50 And she was
00:32:52 mentioning this, and once I
00:32:54 met her toh uske baad,
00:32:56 this guy Anil met me.
00:32:58 Anil Sharma. Haan.
00:33:00 Aisa aisa hai ki main film
00:33:02 Mazhar se nahi hora,
00:33:04 jo main chahta hoon,
00:33:06 aap karte hoon, kya.
00:33:08 Same thing happened in Tezab.
00:33:10 Tezab main mir rahe hoon, Dharam ji kar rahe hoon.
00:33:12 Acha? Ek scene
00:33:14 ho bhi gaya tha, filmistan ka.
00:33:16 Toh main bhi bhi scene dekhne, main
00:33:18 yeh nahi karunga, Dharam ji permission leke ho.
00:33:20 Main kaise beech mein aajao?
00:33:22 Is he opting out?
00:33:24 Bole, nahi main, kothi hai nahi karna
00:33:26 acharya. Toh theek hai.
00:33:28 So this was another film, same thing.
00:33:30 And I worked very hard on
00:33:32 this Shraddhanjali.
00:33:34 Two films I worked very hard,
00:33:36 Shraddhanjali and
00:33:38 one more film thi.
00:33:42 Phir Bhui Raat.
00:33:46 Phir Bhui Raat wagar hai nahi, yeh ek
00:33:48 Kaal Chakra thi. Kaal Chakra.
00:33:50 Kaal Chakra mein bahut hard work
00:33:52 kiya tha, maine. And that film
00:33:54 did very well. That's right.
00:33:56 It was released against
00:33:58 T. R. Anand's film.
00:34:00 Amit Bhabha chand, T. R. Anand
00:34:02 iske tha, same thing.
00:34:04 But it went on and on and on like
00:34:06 for Shilpa Chukla.
00:34:08 So, you have had,
00:34:10 you've been wearing a
00:34:12 policeman's uniform or a
00:34:14 naval officer's uniform, you've been wearing uniforms
00:34:16 almost all your life?
00:34:18 Haan, sab log bolte the Suresh Rupara ko
00:34:20 ek baar, isme hain tha koi trade paper bhi.
00:34:22 Best is to take Suresh Rupara
00:34:24 and a police officer's role, take one.
00:34:26 He wrote, and this is
00:34:28 the mantra today.
00:34:30 My son-in-law tells me, you're a lucky charm.
00:34:32 Abhi aap dekho, sab
00:34:34 jagah aap jaha jaha hote hai.
00:34:36 He was telling me, jab Soldier
00:34:38 mein kitne saal ke baad pictures released ki,
00:34:40 Dharamji ki chak,
00:34:42 mein bhole, theek hai yaar, bolte,
00:34:44 wo lagta hai aise, toh theek hai.
00:34:46 Nahi, nahi, yeh jahe annual bhi chalegi, aap dekh lena.
00:34:48 You're a lucky, very lucky for the film.
00:34:50 You know, you were talking about Vinod Pandey's
00:34:52 film and how you did it when
00:34:54 you had no money and you were desperate
00:34:56 ki kar do, you're taking me abroad,
00:34:58 I'll do the film.
00:35:00 But you were already
00:35:02 married to Yashi at that time.
00:35:04 I was married even when I joined the institute.
00:35:06 You were married.
00:35:08 I did tell her that I'm going to join the film institute.
00:35:10 I got married
00:35:12 on the 1st of August, 1974
00:35:14 and I sent a telegram to Taneja
00:35:16 sir,
00:35:18 sir, not able to
00:35:20 join you, please allow me
00:35:22 5 days. Then I asked
00:35:24 her permission, she said,
00:35:26 she started crying.
00:35:28 After 4th day, I said, Mary's a
00:35:30 I've nothing to do here
00:35:32 and I don't like selling medicines.
00:35:34 You had taken over
00:35:36 your father's medicine shop.
00:35:38 My elder brother and me and I didn't want to do that business.
00:35:40 Poorajan counter bhi hai,
00:35:42 dhavai bhi chahiye, asparagus bhi chahiye.
00:35:44 Par 10 rupee ki cheez bhi chahiye,
00:35:46 ek paisa milta tha,
00:35:48 ek paisa, 8%, 4% profit.
00:35:50 Kaun kaam karega?
00:35:52 Aur ek bhi chori ho gayi, girgi toh,
00:35:54 unh ho gayi.
00:35:56 So, aapko yeh dream kaha se aaya ki main film institute
00:35:58 jaa ke actor banaya?
00:36:00 At the age of 7, I had
00:36:02 done a role
00:36:04 in my class and then I
00:36:06 had to do all India radio for
00:36:08 children's program, bachchi.
00:36:10 Ek Nawab ki program hota tha.
00:36:12 Bachon ka
00:36:14 program hota tha. Usne bhi bhila,
00:36:16 "Kya karte hain, aapka naam kya?" "Suresh."
00:36:18 "Kya karte hain?" "Kutte
00:36:20 billi ki ladhai."
00:36:22 Toh main ghar pe dekhta tha,
00:36:24 bada ghar tha, saamne, garage
00:36:26 peeche, pool and all that,
00:36:28 huge house. Toh kutte
00:36:30 billi hain sab ghar bhoj rahe the, aapas mein ladhte
00:36:32 the toh unko bhi sunta tha, observe
00:36:34 karta tha. Toh unka main
00:36:36 ek banaya liya tha, "Waho kaise karte hain?"
00:36:38 "Ek me aaya kar karte hain." Then they fight.
00:36:40 So, you did a kutte billi ki
00:36:42 uska jagda? Haan, mimic
00:36:44 kiya tha. At the age of 7.
00:36:46 Okay.
00:36:48 Uske baad phir bada
00:36:50 stage karne
00:36:52 laga hai, ek do plays ki.
00:36:54 Phir shock waha tha, Dev Anand ka
00:36:56 fan tha. Dev Anand ki har film dekhe,
00:36:58 poore dialogue yaad hote the.
00:37:00 Aur uske mimicry karta tha,
00:37:02 "Aap aar rahe hain, haan haan,
00:37:04 collar bade bade pehnta tha."
00:37:06 Nice shock tha.
00:37:08 Toh ghar wale
00:37:10 sab tang aage the, bale pata nahi hai ki
00:37:12 aayi iski shadi karado.
00:37:14 Main wala, "Main kaan se shadi karunga? Paise nahi,
00:37:16 kaam nahi, kuch nahi."
00:37:18 Phir finally my mother,
00:37:20 everybody got together.
00:37:22 Sab milke,
00:37:24 sab khichdi pakha ki meri shadi kar di.
00:37:26 So, does that give you
00:37:28 a lot of satisfaction that, along
00:37:30 with the people knowing who is
00:37:32 Suresh Oberoi, you also
00:37:34 have been able to give Yashi
00:37:36 and your family the kind of lifestyle
00:37:38 they were used to?
00:37:40 Vivek sent me a small little
00:37:42 message,
00:37:44 recorded message from
00:37:46 someone. He said, "Vivek,
00:37:48 I am doing this for you. It's not
00:37:50 helping you or doing you a favour.
00:37:52 Lekin,
00:37:56 I am doing this for you because
00:37:58 your father
00:38:00 had adopted
00:38:02 two children
00:38:04 of his elder brother.
00:38:06 And they gave them same
00:38:08 love and everything as he gave you.
00:38:10 Usne bheja.
00:38:12 So, these are the, actually the
00:38:16 rewards that you have got in life, isn't it?
00:38:18 Yeah.
00:38:20 That's very nice. Tell me with
00:38:22 Vivek,
00:38:24 did you influence his choice
00:38:26 of career?
00:38:28 Beginning mein toh bohot karta tha na.
00:38:30 I had to struggle like before with
00:38:34 Ramgopal Verma, yeh, woh.
00:38:36 Main Ramgopal Verma ko
00:38:38 bohot baat. He was making that time
00:38:40 company.
00:38:42 Toh bhila, "Suresh, you have
00:38:44 something
00:38:46 to watch Vicks?"
00:38:48 I said, "Yeah, I have."
00:38:50 "How old is he?" "Acha?"
00:38:52 "Exactly." I said, "Yeah."
00:38:54 "Kuch dikh hai acting ka baat?" "Nahin hai." "Ghar pe chalo."
00:38:56 "Toh gandha sa kamra." "Arey,
00:38:58 yeh saaf kar raha hai Vivek."
00:39:00 "Arey, vivek, chup kar na. Terko
00:39:02 thodi dekhna hai. Yeh dekhna."
00:39:04 "Video dekha toh." He started shouting.
00:39:06 "Give me ten rupees."
00:39:08 Main bhi ghaadi mein
00:39:10 rag diya tha. Usually I never used to
00:39:12 put it. Niche mein gaya,
00:39:14 she was sitting with 10-15
00:39:16 friends. I said, "Das rupee mein ho, das rupee."
00:39:18 Everybody yeh pagal kya.
00:39:20 Das rupee kya ho? Ramu ko diya.
00:39:22 Toh show, mujhe pakda hai.
00:39:24 Vivek ko diya. "This is my signing.
00:39:26 You are doing my show." Okay, that's how
00:39:28 company happened for Vivek.
00:39:30 Nahin, but he worked hard.
00:39:32 Jopad patti mein jaana, karna,
00:39:34 waha rahe ke,
00:39:36 beedi-beedi peena.
00:39:38 He did the follow-up.
00:39:40 Are you happy with the way Vivek's career went?
00:39:42 Because it didn't do as well
00:39:44 as we thought it would, isn't it?
00:39:46 Nahin, achha chala.
00:39:48 Phir nichi gaya, phir upar gaya.
00:39:50 Abhi phir aage wapas platform pe.
00:39:52 He was doing very well.
00:39:54 He always wanted to do
00:39:56 business and acting.
00:39:58 He was a person who was diversified into business also,
00:40:00 isn't it? Usko ameshe hai hi tha.
00:40:02 Mat kar, toh usko nahin mereko karte hai.
00:40:04 Toh shock tha, yeh bhi.
00:40:06 Okay.
00:40:08 Kya kaunse diamond hota hai aaj kal?
00:40:10 Wo nakli bante hain na,
00:40:12 uske artificial diamonds.
00:40:14 Actress nahin diamond bante hain.
00:40:16 Jo bhi hai. Kuch yeh,
00:40:18 kuch yeh, kitne business karte hain,
00:40:20 kuch schools hain, uske colleges.
00:40:22 Did you think he would meet a good fit
00:40:24 as Prime Minister Modi in that film?
00:40:26 He did very well.
00:40:28 You liked him in it?
00:40:30 I liked him very well.
00:40:32 I think that so many times I thought ki
00:40:34 Modi hi hai, kahi baad.
00:40:36 He worked very hard.
00:40:38 Aap bhi the,
00:40:40 ek chota se, chota se roh mein.
00:40:42 Parabh pe, pehli baad teen din din
00:40:44 aaya main, ek usme tha main,
00:40:46 minus something mein bitha diya le jaa ki.
00:40:48 Yeh aaya hai, tak barabh thi.
00:40:50 That's right, yeah.
00:40:52 Up in the hills, yeah.
00:40:54 How he used to work there.
00:40:56 But why did that film not shape up the way we had
00:40:58 expected it to?
00:41:00 So many problems in life, kuch bhi hota hai.
00:41:02 Did that disappoint you?
00:41:04 Because it was a
00:41:06 project you were very keen on, isn't it?
00:41:08 Jisko bol ho, bolte hai, main ne dekhi hai film.
00:41:10 Hmm.
00:41:12 Koi bhi aisa nahin bol,
00:41:14 everybody used to say, kya film banayi,
00:41:16 kya achi kaam ke.
00:41:18 Paper mein dikhta nahin tha,
00:41:20 paise mein dikhta nahin tha.
00:41:22 Nobody said, we didn't see the film.
00:41:24 But I saw the film and didn't like it.
00:41:26 Because I found a lot,
00:41:28 kabhi, kabhi baiti ke.
00:41:30 You thought, lambi hai?
00:41:32 Sirf lambi nahin, I just thought it was not very,
00:41:34 it was not very engrossingly
00:41:36 made and I thought the person we were
00:41:38 talking about, Mr. Modi,
00:41:40 deserved a far superior film.
00:41:42 Edit bahut kiya gaya hai.
00:41:44 I think it was,
00:41:46 nahin, it was badly
00:41:48 edited because,
00:41:50 it was a bad product.
00:41:52 No. There were a lot of
00:41:54 people who
00:41:56 said, he disallowed so many
00:41:58 scenes. Kuch nakli bhi banayi the.
00:42:00 Agar yeh log agar bol dete,
00:42:02 biopic nahin hai, kuch aur kar dete,
00:42:04 naam rakhte toh chalta tha.
00:42:06 Toh we had to go and show it every
00:42:08 time to certain people.
00:42:10 Sensors also gave a lot of
00:42:12 cut. Yeh kaat do, wo kaat do, jodayenge kaas?
00:42:14 Obviously,
00:42:16 you wouldn't like the film.
00:42:18 Chunk nikal diya, hata diya, wo chunk
00:42:20 laga diya, yeh hata diya, yeh nikal diya, wo kar diya.
00:42:22 But you have been a Mr.
00:42:24 Modi voter
00:42:26 for a very long time.
00:42:28 I am in his 100 people's
00:42:30 group.
00:42:32 Where we
00:42:34 go for meetings.
00:42:36 There's a 100
00:42:38 people there, committee.
00:42:40 Okay. And you've
00:42:42 been with the Bharatiya Janata Party
00:42:44 since 2004? From my father's time.
00:42:46 Father's time?
00:42:48 Acha, okay. But that must
00:42:50 have been Jan Sangh, na? Haan,
00:42:52 tab nahin tha na, abhi. So, I believe
00:42:54 you became a proper BJP
00:42:56 member in 2004?
00:42:58 Yeah, proper
00:43:00 member. And after that I got so
00:43:02 many offers, but I said no.
00:43:04 From Congress and other parties.
00:43:06 So, is it some belief
00:43:08 that you have in the party and
00:43:10 in Mr. Modi? I like the party, that's all.
00:43:12 You like the party, okay. And do you also
00:43:14 have a great feeling? I like that
00:43:16 the party, I like what RSS does.
00:43:18 I like that
00:43:20 what BJP
00:43:22 does. And
00:43:24 especially after Modi ji toh
00:43:26 I even like it more because he's
00:43:28 Yogi and Modi have made something
00:43:30 very strong and nice and very loud
00:43:32 and clear. Ki no
00:43:34 nonsense, no chori, no banma, no
00:43:36 nobody will come late, punctuality, kya kya.
00:43:38 Kaafi shudha rahe hain abhi toh.
00:43:40 Paisa kitna aageya sabke paas?
00:43:42 Business kitna aachi. Till
00:43:44 name a project, a place
00:43:46 kyaan par loss hua hai.
00:43:48 Whether going into Pakistan
00:43:50 and killing them and coming. Last
00:43:52 time toh Kargil ke time pe America
00:43:54 didn't allow us. I
00:43:56 believe so. I don't know. And now we don't listen
00:43:58 to anybody. No, they listen to us.
00:44:00 Abhi log bolte jaa ki war
00:44:02 bandh kar raha ho.
00:44:04 Ukraine war bandh kar raha ho.
00:44:06 Abhi unidentified log maar raha hai.
00:44:08 Kya kya ho raha hai. That's true.
00:44:10 Palatta hi hai na samay.
00:44:12 Pehle nobody liked ki
00:44:14 Suresh Chopra ghar baar bate dukaan
00:44:16 chala hai. Yeh kya andhe kaam kar raha hai
00:44:18 ladkiyon ke saath. Jaa ke naachna.
00:44:20 Ab uske baad woh hi bila hai
00:44:22 re wow hai. Yeh humare ghar
00:44:24 ki shaan hai.
00:44:26 And luckily kya ho raha
00:44:28 na, if I had the money
00:44:30 to even take care of the family,
00:44:32 brothers, children and all that.
00:44:34 Aaya na. Jiski kismat
00:44:36 me likha hota hai na, unke liye aayi jaata hai.
00:44:38 That's right.
00:44:40 I'll tell you exactly one thing.
00:44:42 Ek baine flat liya tha
00:44:44 Strichel ke neechi ground floor pe
00:44:46 and I was selling it for 5 lakhs.
00:44:48 After my brother's death
00:44:50 wahin unko le laaya ki
00:44:52 wahan se leke gaye the.
00:44:54 I said ki
00:44:56 yeh do bachche aage hai bhi inko
00:44:58 kaisa khachar karenge aur bhi.
00:45:00 Toh saare saath me gaya.
00:45:02 I was selling it for 5.
00:45:04 I got a customer for 7 lakhs.
00:45:06 At that time.
00:45:08 Toh 2 and a half me toh
00:45:10 poori unki life banti hai.
00:45:12 Kaise prakati khelti hai na.
00:45:14 If you are
00:45:16 aware of what's happening.
00:45:18 Otherwise bole hain, haan nahi maine hi kiya,
00:45:20 aamne kya kiya hai.
00:45:22 Iske kismat pe toh aaya na.
00:45:24 So did you always
00:45:26 have this
00:45:28 philosophical approach
00:45:30 to life and the spirituality
00:45:32 that you have now?
00:45:34 Or is it something that you acquired?
00:45:36 Got it from my mother.
00:45:38 In sanskaron mein.
00:45:40 And she used to tell me every time.
00:45:42 Ek ek ek line unki
00:45:44 yaad rakhona toh bohot.
00:45:46 She was very
00:45:48 she was not
00:45:50 educated educated but she was wise.
00:45:52 Yeah.
00:45:54 You must tell me a little bit
00:45:56 because you know, subah subah there are
00:45:58 there's a huge
00:46:00 percentage of Indians who listen
00:46:02 to your voice and
00:46:04 Sister Shivani.
00:46:06 So many people
00:46:08 aap logon ki aawaz.
00:46:10 They get up listening to your voice.
00:46:12 How did that happen?
00:46:14 Your whole, with Brahma Kumaris
00:46:16 and. Like those days I had
00:46:18 a fan following more of from Calcutta
00:46:20 and
00:46:22 other places. Letters bohot aate the.
00:46:24 Ab poora email
00:46:26 iska hi bharte hain. And nobody talks
00:46:28 to me when they introduce me on the stage.
00:46:30 Nobody says ki
00:46:32 So many films
00:46:34 Vivek kaavdi aaye. Kuch nahi.
00:46:36 Bulti ye ye ye sabko
00:46:38 Brahma Kumaris ka program dekhte hongi.
00:46:40 Suresh Oberoi, you know how he asked.
00:46:42 Everybody asks, tells me
00:46:44 one thing. How do you know what is
00:46:46 in our mind?
00:46:48 But can you
00:46:50 recall one or two of the really
00:46:52 nice conversations you had
00:46:54 with the Sister Shivani?
00:46:56 Nee aisa
00:46:58 they are not like with the name
00:47:00 na. It doesn't have a title na.
00:47:02 But anything that you have talked about which
00:47:04 you are very proud of or which
00:47:06 was very enlightening for you.
00:47:08 I am sure all of it has been.
00:47:10 Enlightening to ye hai ki
00:47:12 ye jitni chizhe aapko mai bol raha hoon
00:47:14 aur jitna
00:47:16 every time I used to, I was
00:47:18 not only enlightened, it was learning
00:47:20 every day from there.
00:47:22 Ek baar kya ho ta
00:47:26 mere bade bhai ka beta yahaan par
00:47:28 kisi se
00:47:30 teen crore ka
00:47:32 kuch loan le liye ta mereko bataya nahi ta.
00:47:34 So although some underworld
00:47:36 ye ho kuch aage. To I
00:47:38 went to Sun and Sand
00:47:40 credit card mera, chai mai pilaya
00:47:42 sab mai kiya. Maine bola will see
00:47:44 something do karse bhaithao. To he
00:47:46 thought ki achha bakra mil gaya, isko
00:47:48 aur tang karte hai.
00:47:50 To what he did ki
00:47:52 Suresh Oberoi's company
00:47:54 like Anaz Oberoi
00:47:56 karke mere upar
00:47:58 cup case kya, kya kya kya
00:48:00 criminal daal diya
00:48:02 and suddenly ek baar
00:48:04 kisi court se order aaya tha
00:48:06 mai phul gaya. To
00:48:08 mere ko lookout pe aur
00:48:10 kya bolte hai usko
00:48:12 warrant
00:48:14 jo aate hain na, arrest warrant
00:48:16 yaha TV tha, mai
00:48:18 dekha raha tha. Arrest warrant
00:48:20 Suresh Oberoi, again he travelled
00:48:22 crores, crores, check, bonds, nahi
00:48:24 koan check diya, kaun se bonds, mai to
00:48:26 beeche mein mediator kya bolte hai usko,
00:48:28 wo banne gaya tha.
00:48:30 Uspe bhi aagaya,
00:48:32 Times of India, newspapers, channels
00:48:34 all over.
00:48:36 Maine ko aisa hai, mere bhole
00:48:38 jeep leke do teen, kuch rods leke
00:48:40 jaa ke aaya. To that
00:48:42 day, Brahma Kumar iska mere ko
00:48:44 maine sister ko
00:48:46 phone kiya, main jaa raha hoon
00:48:48 usko marne ke liye. Karte
00:48:50 rehenge, yah marke aao, yah marke aao.
00:48:52 Bhole, just sit down.
00:48:54 Sit down, go to that room,
00:48:56 talk to Shiva,
00:48:58 pray for him,
00:49:00 pray,
00:49:02 think good of him,
00:49:04 send good vibrations, bole,
00:49:06 are you mad?
00:49:08 Mera marne ka mann kar rahe hai,
00:49:10 vibration acche, bhejo usko.
00:49:12 Bhole nahi, send him
00:49:14 blessings. Sit down,
00:49:16 you are not going anywhere.
00:49:18 Ke liye main badhe bhi.
00:49:20 Kya,
00:49:22 to, suddenly
00:49:24 everything started
00:49:26 working in my way
00:49:28 and I will send blessings.
00:49:30 Now court kisi, kisi, kisi,
00:49:32 yeh the, yeh the, saare, saare, saare,
00:49:34 mere favour mein bhe,
00:49:36 he got into trouble himself.
00:49:38 Okay, okay. So just
00:49:40 organically got solved?
00:49:42 With the
00:49:44 spiritual strength of my
00:49:46 mind, and that day
00:49:48 not going and fighting and further.
00:49:50 Yeah.
00:49:52 To uske upar, to aur, mere
00:49:54 upar case hi hote the, aur, kuch
00:49:56 aur badhta tha. Ek TV
00:49:58 pe itna aaya hai, 3 crore ka, phir aur bhi aata.
00:50:00 Correct, correct. Main kyon
00:50:02 loonga usse 3 crore, kiska, mere baad
00:50:04 kya zarur bharte hai, yeh jume haan ki.
00:50:06 How did it start? Your
00:50:08 whole, this thing?
00:50:10 The, yeah, the whole journey with
00:50:12 the sister Shivani. Oh, I thought
00:50:14 you were talking about the money lender. Neh?
00:50:16 That na, I,
00:50:18 I used to go for satsang
00:50:20 in, in my guru,
00:50:22 who was a Jain, Dada Lakshmi
00:50:24 from Pakistan.
00:50:26 Bahut din tak tha, to
00:50:28 I used to, I mean, I
00:50:30 used to love her, actual love.
00:50:32 Jaisa Bhagwan ka, jaisa Radha
00:50:34 aur uska Krishna ka, yah Meera
00:50:36 ka, utta mujhe prem tha, mere guru
00:50:38 se. She's, and she,
00:50:40 suddenly
00:50:42 she left the body.
00:50:44 Okay. I, I was
00:50:46 lonely.
00:50:48 I went to so many places, temples,
00:50:50 this, everybody started bringing
00:50:52 their cameras and all that. Jahan jao
00:50:54 yeh tumhasha. Koi burra hai ki
00:50:56 one movie you do for the God also, no?
00:50:58 So many movies you do.
00:51:00 Meena bila hai, yaar, thag gaya. Kyunki wo
00:51:02 toh ek rupee bhi nahi, phool bhi nahi maangti thi.
00:51:04 Kuch nahi. Sheshtu
00:51:06 aapne woh toh gusse wale thi,
00:51:08 ekdum. Gussa means, jaisa
00:51:10 toh gudhant. Control mein rakhti thi.
00:51:12 Toh, akela ho gaya tha.
00:51:16 Toh aaj, saad,
00:51:18 TV pe spiritual wo aate the na,
00:51:20 iske,
00:51:22 kya rahe ho? Sections,
00:51:24 spiritual ke wo aate na,
00:51:26 channels. Haan, haasta. Haasta.
00:51:28 Haasta, haasta. Ek dir laga raha tha,
00:51:30 white kapde mein, yeh, I said, yeh
00:51:32 mere guru ki tarah bolti hai. Yeh koun hai?
00:51:34 Atti choti si thi, toh
00:51:36 baine bula hai, aise ek ladki
00:51:38 unko bhi vivek ke liye mil jati
00:51:40 toh, na, gyan wali and all.
00:51:42 Toh, baine unko
00:51:44 reach number deke phone kiya, toh bole,
00:51:46 uski maa ne phone uta hai, mala
00:51:48 unne, koun? Us time, aaj malam ho.
00:51:50 She is in
00:51:52 Lonavala. Toh, male, jata ho
00:51:54 kider hai Lonavala? Toh, bale, nahi
00:51:56 unne, nikal gayi haan.
00:51:58 Then she said, you go and
00:52:00 meet
00:52:02 some, one sister in
00:52:04 Billipadlaya.
00:52:06 Aap unse baat karo.
00:52:08 Toh, bale, udhar gaya, toh unhone phir bitaya hai,
00:52:10 pyar kiya hai, bahut baat ki, maine bole.
00:52:12 Haan, haan, woh Pune ki ladki hai.
00:52:14 Mujhe malum hi the, bale,
00:52:16 mala, didi, main bhi Vivek ke liye ek accha
00:52:18 ladki dhoond raha ho.
00:52:20 Somebody who's got this kind of knowledge,
00:52:22 you know, this kind.
00:52:24 Haan, haan, haan. She didn't tell me that
00:52:26 time, ki, they don't marry.
00:52:28 They're nuns.
00:52:30 So, how did you
00:52:32 finally find Priyanka for
00:52:34 Oh, I had met her
00:52:36 mother in Bangalore
00:52:38 with my eldest sister.
00:52:40 Ek din gaye the kahin toh.
00:52:42 She had taken a lift from my sister.
00:52:44 Toh utha raha toh tab se,
00:52:46 baad mein,
00:52:48 Vishnu Varadhan ki shooting mein aayi thi milne
00:52:50 ek do baad.
00:52:52 Toh uske baad toh, nahi mila tha.
00:52:54 Then she wrote us a letter.
00:52:56 Ki, yeh aisa aisa mere beti hai.
00:52:58 Aayi, bale, aajao.
00:53:00 Toh yahan, Loh Hotel mein aaye toh.
00:53:02 She's in Florence.
00:53:04 And I said, dekho bhi, hum logo toh bachhe
00:53:06 ki shaadi karne mein jaldi hai.
00:53:08 Ab yeh Florence, Florence, tumhari beti kappad
00:53:10 kya hai, let him go there and meet her
00:53:12 and decide.
00:53:14 Ticket dekh le, jaa dekh le, achi lagti
00:53:16 toh shaadi karne, toh aajao baap.
00:53:18 So, he went to Florence?
00:53:20 Sab ko mein aise gaya, bada bhai ki
00:53:22 bada beti ko bhi bola, Lucknow mein ladki hai,
00:53:24 tu dekh le, bachna raha toh, bade le.
00:53:26 Mere ko phone hai, nahi aana ki.
00:53:28 Meri zabadasti ki karna,
00:53:30 yaar iski zabadasti karna.
00:53:32 But you know, Vivek had a very colourful
00:53:34 past, personal life
00:53:36 before Priyanka happened in his life.
00:53:38 How did you handle that?
00:53:40 Because it was lots of
00:53:42 ups and downs.
00:53:44 I had no choice. Main bhi gud karta harta hai
00:53:46 school, college mein yeh
00:53:48 mastiya karna. Roj ek nahi ladki
00:53:50 ke saheb ke copy pehle jaata hai.
00:53:52 So, you just felt it was youthful?
00:53:54 No, but I,
00:53:58 most of the things I didn't even know.
00:54:00 Vivek never told me,
00:54:04 but Ramu
00:54:06 told me.
00:54:08 Oh, achha.
00:54:10 Before Ramu, somebody else told me.
00:54:12 Ki yeh sasa hai, koi
00:54:14 friend aati hai, yeh taayi ho.
00:54:16 Main sumjaya tha, nahi karo film.
00:54:20 Shooting main nahi karo, bada jo
00:54:22 luck karna hai, karne.
00:54:24 Lekin abhi
00:54:26 koi hai, kisi ke sath kitne
00:54:28 roz living in relationship talte hai aaj kal toh.
00:54:30 Us time pe bhi log
00:54:32 kitne hai, ek se jhudate the
00:54:34 tohta, tohta tha, jhudata tha.
00:54:36 Hota hi tha na.
00:54:38 But did this,
00:54:40 you have worked with Mr. Bachchan in so many
00:54:42 films. You've been actors,
00:54:44 co-actors, lovers, so
00:54:46 many films.
00:54:48 And
00:54:50 did this, you know, the history
00:54:52 of Vivek and Aishwarya, did that
00:54:54 ever affect your friendship with
00:54:56 Mr. Bachchan? I never was a friend
00:54:58 of his.
00:55:00 Oh, you were great friends with Mr. Bachchan?
00:55:02 I was not a friend of
00:55:04 Bachchan, I was a co-star.
00:55:06 Hamari dosti thodi tha.
00:55:08 Bhai ke death
00:55:10 mein, Jai ji aayi thi, aake
00:55:12 bete the, bhai ke
00:55:14 photo leke gaye, manake
00:55:16 laaye. Matlab, like that
00:55:18 relationship industry bhai thi.
00:55:20 Friendship is a Danny ke thi, Mukul ki thi,
00:55:22 aur meri hamari group
00:55:24 thi, yahaan, doosra
00:55:26 Kaal Chakrawala, aise thodi dosti
00:55:28 thi unse. Okay,
00:55:30 Yes, he had invited me for his
00:55:32 birthday. Fine, but
00:55:34 friendship
00:55:36 ka, aur most of the
00:55:38 things toh wo pata bhi thodi karte dete hain.
00:55:40 That's true, yeah.
00:55:42 But in any case, both of you are mature adults.
00:55:44 So, you are the leading actor.
00:55:46 Whatever he is hiding also in his mind, mere ke karte hai.
00:55:48 And I am also hiding. Jab milte hai toh?
00:55:50 Acha milte hai, bahut acha milte hai.
00:55:52 That is so nice. That is how mature people should be.
00:55:54 Bahut acha milte hai.
00:55:56 Okay, that is great. Fantastic.
00:55:58 So, did you advise
00:56:00 Vivek at any time
00:56:02 to be careful with his
00:56:04 personal life, that he is going a little wild?
00:56:06 No, I really like that girl when she will come home.
00:56:08 Okay.
00:56:10 Abhi aapke bete ki friend aayegi toh
00:56:12 aap kya karoge? Pyar karoge?
00:56:14 Yes, he will be nice to her. Yeah, correct.
00:56:16 Mujhe zyada kya kya pakra
00:56:18 tha, yeh hora, woh raha, yeh sab nahi malo.
00:56:20 That's right, yeah.
00:56:22 But now that he has settled down, you must be very relieved, isn't it?
00:56:24 Tab bhi relieved tha, abhi bhi relieved ho.
00:56:28 Acha.
00:56:30 Aur mere saath sab, aaj bhi Bachchan sahab milte hai,
00:56:32 Salman Khan milta hai.
00:56:34 Peeche secret chupake se,
00:56:36 aisa
00:56:38 respect se.
00:56:40 Mai,
00:56:42 jab bhi Salim sahab milte hai,
00:56:44 I said, Vivek, you have to touch his feet.
00:56:46 Salim bhai ki mai
00:56:48 aizzat karta hoon, sab log.
00:56:50 Abhi humare relation mein kahi nahi,
00:56:52 abhi kuch na kuch hota hai toh hota hai.
00:56:54 But relation thodi bigad jate hain.
00:56:56 Okay.
00:56:58 We are not,
00:57:00 it's not that I don't want to, I don't speak
00:57:02 with Bachchan sahab aur Salman aur
00:57:04 his father, or I don't
00:57:06 kahin milegi,
00:57:08 kya hi milegi, kya hi milegi, toh kyon nahi.
00:57:10 Abhi haan, yaha milete
00:57:12 teeno.
00:57:14 Meghna and I were going in for
00:57:16 Shubhrutur.
00:57:18 No, Shubhrutur had invited
00:57:20 that badminton champion,
00:57:22 that girl. P.D. Sandhu.
00:57:24 Sandhu.
00:57:26 They were coming out and all of us
00:57:28 stood, he met.
00:57:30 Itna pyar se,
00:57:32 aaj, kya naam hai,
00:57:34 Abhishek,
00:57:36 beti Meghna ko door se bula ke milta hai.
00:57:38 Meghna, how are you? All well?
00:57:40 Mohon achha milte hai.
00:57:42 That's very nice. That's what maturity
00:57:44 is all about.
00:57:46 But andar se koi woh nafrat thodi hai.
00:57:48 That's right.
00:57:50 Ho gaya.
00:57:52 Nothing personal bolta hai na,
00:57:54 Don Collier.
00:57:56 Don Collier
00:57:58 quoting.
00:58:00 Nahi, usme, ki aap Godfather ko
00:58:02 aap picture dekhlo, you will learn how to live life.
00:58:04 Usme, usme woh hi bolta hai,
00:58:06 person who doesn't
00:58:08 spend time with his family is not a man.
00:58:10 Woh bolta hai ki never
00:58:12 tell anybody what is in your mind.
00:58:14 Let the other person know. Usne yeh
00:58:16 bhi line bole thi,
00:58:18 well, he murders that guy and says,
00:58:20 wants to murder that
00:58:22 guy and says tell him that.
00:58:24 It was not personal.
00:58:26 Only business.
00:58:28 Abhi business, if somebody doesn't want to work with you,
00:58:30 or business, if somebody wants to
00:58:32 work with somebody else,
00:58:34 business.
00:58:36 Very true. Yes.
00:58:38 If I take it personally, it's not right.
00:58:40 I agree.
00:58:42 Vivek has moved out and
00:58:44 set up his own house elsewhere,
00:58:46 isn't it?
00:58:48 He's done very well.
00:58:50 He's doing very well. He's set up a house
00:58:52 and made offices in Dubai also.
00:58:54 Okay.
00:58:56 He's in and out of, he's coming now.
00:58:58 Next month.
00:59:00 So he doesn't, but
00:59:02 you were okay with his
00:59:04 shifting out and setting up on his own?
00:59:06 Yes. I was very happy.
00:59:08 Aise jaga hi kaha tha waha?
00:59:10 Uska kitna tamasha tha.
00:59:12 Pura din log aate the.
00:59:14 Okay.
00:59:16 Nishe ground floor mein utar sakta nahi.
00:59:18 Pura din kitchen busy hai,
00:59:20 inki chaiye, naashte chal rahe hain.
00:59:22 Phir unki maids, phir drivers,
00:59:24 phir yeh.
00:59:26 Aur ek ghar mein itne log.
00:59:28 Theek hai,
00:59:30 rehne ke rehne, lekin office ka
00:59:32 mahout ho gaye tha, isliye bahut mushkil ho gaye tha.
00:59:34 And you know how film industry and other business are.
00:59:36 Sab log ghar ke andar neeche aaye ke
00:59:38 baith jaaye. That's right.
00:59:40 Saab ka aise ho, aise baith chai pilao.
00:59:42 So you were happy when he
00:59:44 he's become independent?
00:59:46 Acha hai na.
00:59:48 I also was, you know, I was
00:59:50 more away from these things.
00:59:52 I wanted to have more silence,
00:59:54 more of meditation, more of spirituality.
00:59:56 Abhi toh din, raat
00:59:58 chaloo rahata tha. Raat ko bhi late
01:00:00 aare, din mein bhi aare.
01:00:02 House used to be full.
01:00:04 Kabhi walk karke jaana
01:00:06 hai toh bhi.
01:00:08 Your voice,
01:00:10 to come back to your voice,
01:00:12 you have always
01:00:14 been fantastic at
01:00:16 dubbing, isn't it?
01:00:18 Abhi jab, dubbing mein
01:00:20 mein khaali B.I. Chopra ke office ke paar kahi baaj aayega
01:00:22 aise hi khadhe rahata tha, studio ke
01:00:24 taar. Sir aap ek line bol toh,
01:00:26 "Aan lao, aise le lo, jeep mein dalo."
01:00:28 Abhi yeh kisi kisi ke liye,
01:00:30 abhi taari yeh kya hai saath mein?
01:00:32 "Acha yeh sir, yeh chai wala."
01:00:34 Uske awaaz change karke kar.
01:00:36 Yeh ek ek take mein ho jata tha.
01:00:38 I was very good in dubbing.
01:00:40 Excellent.
01:00:42 What was it like dubbing as Mufasa
01:00:44 in The Lion King? That was big.
01:00:46 They told me, "Nah, nah,
01:00:48 aap wo ala karo, kaafi shades hain."
01:00:50 Mein daughter was with me.
01:00:52 "Daddy, only do King.
01:00:54 No, no, no, don't do that cunning guy."
01:00:56 Mera, "Bhai, nah, bhai, I can't."
01:00:58 That uncle.
01:01:00 Toh phir baaj mein, they paid me very well.
01:01:02 So this Sandeep
01:01:04 manga and you have been
01:01:06 working together for quite, so you're
01:01:08 aware of the kind of...
01:01:10 Sandeep started, first one was
01:01:12 Kabir. So you did
01:01:14 Kabir and you've done Animal.
01:01:16 So you're very familiar with his kind of work.
01:01:18 Yeah, but he said one thing, he gave me
01:01:20 a nice compliment. He said, "Sir, aapke saath
01:01:22 na, mereko achcha lag, I'm at ease.
01:01:24 Main bolta hu, jo aap wo kar dete ho.
01:01:26 I don't eat up my brains.
01:01:28 I'm very comfortable.
01:01:30 Thank you very much."
01:01:32 Toh usko yeh bhi achcha laga.
01:01:34 Toh even Kangana met me,
01:01:36 "Achha, Vanga aage na."
01:01:38 He said, "Because he
01:01:40 likes me. Even
01:01:42 though my role is not big,
01:01:44 but see the respect he gave me
01:01:46 by showing my little
01:01:48 shot with him." In the trailer.
01:01:50 So it's not necessary.
01:01:52 Main kama ke toh nahi dera hu.
01:01:54 Kama ke dera toh run bhi rahi hai.
01:01:56 Vangapur, Khode story yeh picture hai.
01:01:58 The director himself, it's a big name.
01:02:00 That's right.
01:02:02 Phir bhi mera dull hai na.
01:02:04 So what do you think, since you've done both the films,
01:02:06 what do you think is Vanga's USP
01:02:08 that he's so
01:02:10 well-loved at the box office?
01:02:12 Criticized for his
01:02:14 toxicity, but
01:02:16 doing very well at the box office.
01:02:18 He doesn't make that sophisticated
01:02:20 anger, ya nahi hai na. Uska raw hai.
01:02:22 Kahi-kahi raw jo aata hai,
01:02:24 reality aati hai na uski.
01:02:26 Toh
01:02:28 10 take bhi ho gaye toh
01:02:30 wo leta hai. He wants,
01:02:32 he takes what he wants.
01:02:34 And he wants that energy.
01:02:36 Uske andar hi pata nahi, uske andar
01:02:38 bhagwan ne kaan se diya.
01:02:40 Yaha is jagah pe 10,
01:02:42 3 baar toh mere kapad change
01:02:44 aaya, test ke le. 5 baar
01:02:46 mucchi ke liye aaya.
01:02:48 Ek chote character ke liye itna aaya.
01:02:50 Toh kis-kis ke paas, kitna time
01:02:52 deta ho raha hai.
01:02:54 Time sabko, eke-ek ko de na.
01:02:56 Suresh ji ki,
01:02:58 "Main aaya raha ho, tell him."
01:03:00 Aur
01:03:02 South ka ek accha hai, their respect.
01:03:04 Toh baar-baar, "Sir,
01:03:06 Vanga sahab bol rahi hai ki aap 20 minutes baad
01:03:08 nikhlein ke gaj se." "Ab main
01:03:10 nikhal hi raha tha." "Nahi nahi, aap aaraam se hi."
01:03:12 "Sir, aur 10 minutes baad."
01:03:14 They don't want you to go and sit there.
01:03:16 See, itna
01:03:18 sensitive raha tha, about to
01:03:20 other people's. That's right.
01:03:22 That is a professionalism, yeah. Unlike
01:03:24 many of us here.
01:03:26 I just need to ask you, you're going
01:03:28 to have a birthday now. And you're
01:03:30 going to become 77
01:03:32 on the, in December. Yeh sab aapko
01:03:34 sahib-sahib yaad hai.
01:03:36 How
01:03:38 have you maintained yourself so beautifully?
01:03:40 This glow on your face. I feel,
01:03:42 I feel that I am good. The serenity.
01:03:44 I feel that I am about
01:03:46 55, 50. Okay.
01:03:48 I play golf and mereko log
01:03:50 wo aap caddies bolte hain.
01:03:52 Yeh kis kisam ka senior citizen hai bhai.
01:03:54 Toh raaz kya hai?
01:03:56 Kisi se jalna nahi.
01:04:00 Abhi tak jali nahi kisi se?
01:04:02 Ek, thoda sa.
01:04:04 Thoda sa jala hoga kahin.
01:04:06 Ek baar jala tha, jab mere par
01:04:08 bus stand pe khada tha,
01:04:10 Tains Road pe, Amitabh ki ghar ke saamne.
01:04:12 Ek aurat
01:04:14 Mercedes pe, kutte ko leke ja rahe the.
01:04:16 Mann kara pathar maaron.
01:04:18 That was the only
01:04:20 day I remember.
01:04:22 Uske baad, mata ji
01:04:24 ne bola tha, jinnu rab ne vad
01:04:26 aaya, wo denaal bhai.
01:04:28 Apni marzi se kaam kam kiya na.
01:04:30 What is
01:04:32 your thought on turning 77?
01:04:34 I don't think anything
01:04:36 about it. I don't, I don't
01:04:38 think I am 77.
01:04:40 Mereko age kuch lagti nahi hai. Okay.
01:04:42 Abhi bhi mereko bade-bade heavy chise
01:04:44 utha liye, mereko yaadi nahi raha tha.
01:04:46 It doesn't strike you that
01:04:48 yourself. Abhi unzin ghar mein pooja thi
01:04:50 Ganesh ki, toh do-tin
01:04:52 aadmi utha hai the, aati baar.
01:04:54 Toh mere jaake akela utha liya, mereko yaadi nahi hai.
01:04:56 That, naa, okay.
01:04:58 So age is not a bar?
01:05:00 No, I don't remember, toh baki log
01:05:02 baat, aarey akeli utha rahi hai,
01:05:04 akeli utha rahi hai, mereko achha hai, heavy hai kya?
01:05:06 You know? Because
01:05:08 I was a bodybuilder, weightlifter,
01:05:10 swimming champion, tennis champion,
01:05:12 duniya ki har game din mein
01:05:14 aur uske baad karate aur
01:05:16 3-3 gante beach pe,
01:05:18 with Mickey nahta, mai tha,
01:05:20 uska first bola tha,
01:05:22 3-3 gante, jo kaam tha nahi,
01:05:24 merko villain nahi karna tha, toh yeh karo.
01:05:26 Pura din wo karate
01:05:28 karte tha, mar khao, zameen pe mar.
01:05:30 Toh abhi yaadi nahi hai ki
01:05:32 It has just toughened you up?
01:05:34 No, but I
01:05:36 used to do weightlifting from
01:05:38 school.
01:05:40 And you also speak a lot of languages,
01:05:42 isn't it?
01:05:44 Nahi, jahaan bhi jaa toh doon seekh leta ho, pe baad ho bhoot jata ho.
01:05:46 Ab Tamil bolte ho?
01:05:48 Aita hai, wohi, chumma, bhoysula, itna hi aata hai.
01:05:50 Acha, not complete?
01:05:52 I understand very well, Kannada koi bole,
01:05:54 Telugu bole. Telugu toh aap rehai na,
01:05:56 Hyderabad mein.
01:05:58 Woh toh aati hai, koi Kannada bole, Tamil bole,
01:06:00 yaan Malayali bhi bole toh,
01:06:02 Malayali thoda mushkil hai,
01:06:04 thoda samajh nahi hai.
01:06:06 I watch movies.
01:06:08 No, mere se toh aap bolte the.
01:06:10 Nahi, naatak.
01:06:12 Abhi jaa,
01:06:14 Japan mein gaya tha, English film ki thi.
01:06:16 Wahaan,
01:06:18 Japanese seekh liya tha.
01:06:20 I had
01:06:22 most respected
01:06:24 lawyer of this country ka role bane
01:06:26 portray kiya, Japan mein.
01:06:28 Oh, accha.
01:06:30 We were born in Calcutta, unke ghar me
01:06:32 shadwi thi hai,
01:06:34 Japan se aake
01:06:36 shadi ka scene kiya tha.
01:06:38 And
01:06:40 all the biggest
01:06:42 that
01:06:44 you remember that
01:06:46 film, I don't know, jisme saare lawyers
01:06:48 the world ke hain, they had
01:06:50 said ki
01:06:52 Hiroshima ke liye upar bani thi.
01:06:54 Put it, all the
01:06:56 lawyers had said ki Japan ka jo
01:06:58 tojo,
01:07:02 all the villains and all that.
01:07:04 Toh India ka ek hi aapne gaya tha.
01:07:06 Yeah, yeah, a Bengali girl.
01:07:08 Yes, I remember.
01:07:10 Toh wo role mujhe bila.
01:07:12 And that
01:07:14 role, mera major role tha.
01:07:16 Aur baaki world ke best
01:07:18 actors were all lawyers from
01:07:20 major role.
01:07:22 And uska statue bhi
01:07:24 hai wahaan, Kyoto mein.
01:07:26 So you've had a fantastic
01:07:28 glorious life,
01:07:30 career and country.
01:07:32 Ek French film kiya tha.
01:07:34 A girl who lived twice.
01:07:38 It was on
01:07:40 rebirth and birth.
01:07:42 Itni chhi ladki,
01:07:44 Ayesha,
01:07:46 uski beti hai na, writer tha.
01:07:48 And
01:07:50 journalist was, I forgot.
01:07:52 Ayesha Dharkar, yes.
01:07:54 Dharkar kiya, wo kiya,
01:07:56 English films kiya,
01:07:58 bahut films kiya foreign countries
01:08:00 mein bhi.
01:08:02 Dil bhar ki career ki.
01:08:04 Telugu film kiya.
01:08:06 And meri ek film
01:08:08 thi,
01:08:10 Mukesh, wo ladki,
01:08:14 Rita Bahadur ki saath, Bengali
01:08:16 mein.
01:08:18 And that was,
01:08:20 6 lakhs bhi bane thi, 60 lakhs
01:08:22 ka bazaar kiya. Wow, in those days.
01:08:24 Toh
01:08:26 uske baad Shekhar Kapoor
01:08:28 ne film banayi thi.
01:08:30 Toh
01:08:32 sab picture reha kar rahe hain, bahut sukhi
01:08:34 hu. I'm so glad.
01:08:36 Pehd bharao hai. I'm so glad.
01:08:38 Punjabi mein baze,
01:08:40 rajya ho hai.
01:08:42 Very happy to hear that.
01:08:44 Khaana tin meal khaalu aur pehd bharke meetha bhi
01:08:46 paan bhi khaaliya.
01:08:48 Excellent.
01:08:50 Thank you.
01:08:52 Thank you.
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