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00:00 Ansar al-Sunna wa Jama'a is a terrorist organization that has links with IS, Islamic State.
00:09 We tried to establish the links.
00:11 Actually its name comes from Islamic State and this was Islamic State of the Central
00:19 African Province, IS-CAP.
00:23 So it's a big network that connects actually with the one in DRC.
00:28 So there are indeed, as you rightly put it, this is an organization that was trying to
00:32 expand into Mozambique and it picked areas that were relatively, should I say, not very
00:43 populated.
00:44 We've carried out three operations as previously mentioned.
00:49 We have worked jointly with SADC to operate in the major strongholds of Ansar al-Sunna
00:55 wa Jama'a in Katupa Forest in Makomia and we successfully dislodged them twice.
01:03 And the few remnants that are there, because it's a very big forest, are also periodically
01:09 engaged and it is very important for us to be consistent, to continuously operate in
01:16 those areas in order to deny them freedom of action.
01:20 How long are we going to be here?
01:22 We are now undertaking several steps towards building the security sector, supporting in
01:29 the building of the security sector.
01:31 We don't have a time frame, but we are in the process of building capacity to ensure
01:39 that whenever we make the decision, they will be able to operate on their own.
01:45 Mossibu Adipraya and Palma, no recent attacks.
01:51 The only minor attacks that have occurred are along the Messaro River, which borders
01:56 between Mossibu Adipraya and Makomia.
02:02 And these are remnants of Katupa Forest who keep coming in, but they do not capture territory.
02:09 They only conduct nuisance attacks on various local communities there, trading centres.
02:18 But whenever they come, they get a bloody beating.
02:21 So I can say to a large extent that they've been controlled.
02:29 Well the advantages of being in a bilateral relation, and here we are talking about Mozambique
02:36 and Central African Republic where the Rwanda forces are in a bilateral arrangement, is
02:42 that we choose to set the rules, which is different in a multilateral set-up like the
02:47 United Nations.
02:49 So whenever we want to operate, we don't wait for the UN headquarters to give us a
02:55 go ahead.
02:57 Two, doctrine.
02:59 The fact that there are multiple countries involved in an operation means that you need
03:03 to agree on the modus operandi.
03:06 You have to agree on how to fight.
03:11 So in a bilateral set-up, it is very easy for you to conduct operations whenever you
03:15 feel like, however you feel like.
03:18 And this creates quick success.
03:21 And that is why our bilateral forces have been quite successful.
03:26 The first challenge that we had on arrival is the destruction of infrastructure.
03:32 Communication network, electricity.
03:35 Now there is a return to virtually everything.
03:38 You have your cell phones on right now, you have internet throughout.
03:42 So it's easy to operate now.
03:44 It's much better than it was.
03:46 That is in regard to infrastructure, because that's also very critical in operations.
03:53 The other challenge we had initially was the fact that there was no one in town.
03:58 Now we have lots of people have returned back to their homes, so it's easy to man.
04:03 So when the insurgents remove everyone from their location, it becomes very difficult
04:08 to come to a ghost town and operate.
04:13 But today it is clear that people have returned, so that makes it easier for us to operate
04:19 and to mobilize them even more to fight against the insurgents.
04:24 And one thing I should say is that an insurgent needs a population to survive.
04:29 So the fact that the population is coming back from the bushes to their homes is testament
04:36 to the growing, should I say, defeat or failure of the insurgents.
04:42 We have trained the first cohort of Mozambicans in Rwanda who graduated a couple of days ago
04:52 in special advanced training.
04:55 It's a mini special force.
04:57 And yeah, that's about 150.
05:01 But we'll expand that.
05:02 It was just the beginning.
05:04 We'll expand that further.
05:07 And one thing we'll do is that we'll actually train trainers, TOT, so that they can be able
05:13 to train others.
05:16 That's our philosophy.
05:17 The moment you train a specific cohort, that group will be able to transfer knowledge to
05:23 many others.
05:25 So that's what we are doing.
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