Traslacion Noon at Ngayon | Unang Hirit
Aired (January 9, 2024): TRASLACION NOON AT NGAYON
Ngayong araw ng Traslacion, alamin natin ang ugat ng nakahahangang debosyon ng mga Pilipino sa Itim na Nazareno. Paano nga ba ito nagsimula at ano ang naging mga pagbabago nito sa paglipas ng panahon? Alamin ‘yan kasama ang historian na si Xiao Chua. Panoorin ang video.
Ngayong araw ng Traslacion, alamin natin ang ugat ng nakahahangang debosyon ng mga Pilipino sa Itim na Nazareno. Paano nga ba ito nagsimula at ano ang naging mga pagbabago nito sa paglipas ng panahon? Alamin ‘yan kasama ang historian na si Xiao Chua. Panoorin ang video.
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00:00 The day of the Black Nazarene is always a historic event
00:05 because of its millions of devotees.
00:08 Even though the day is full of people,
00:11 the faith and the devotees are of a different kind.
00:14 It's really different.
00:15 So let's go back to Ivan, he's over there in the Kilina Grandstand
00:19 to understand this tradition of our Catholic brethren.
00:23 Ivan?
00:24 Yes, Lynn, Chesca, as you mentioned,
00:27 we need to understand a lot of things
00:30 when it comes to showing devotion to the devotees of the Black Nazarene.
00:35 We witness this every year.
00:37 But what has changed and what is the same?
00:41 In that question, we will talk to the historian,
00:45 Professor Xiao Chua.
00:46 Sir, welcome.
00:48 Thank you for joining us.
00:50 Happy History Day, Ivan, and to all our brethren.
00:54 Sir, let's start with the recent history.
00:58 As you can see this morning,
01:00 and so far, how is the procession being held,
01:03 how would you compare it to the ones that took place last year?
01:06 Well, let's remember that there were two rituals in the Andas
01:12 that Jesus Christ showed us.
01:14 The first was the mass of the cross,
01:18 and the second was the worshiping in the Andas.
01:23 What happened here was that it took a long time
01:25 because there was a lot of water, but there was also a flood.
01:30 And when the flood hit,
01:33 the Andas stopped for a while.
01:37 And when people were in a pond, they had to be carried by people in the back.
01:41 What is happening now, as we can see,
01:44 because the water was taken away,
01:47 this is the cloth that you will be given to wipe,
01:50 you will be given this,
01:52 and what happened is that it was focused on the water.
01:55 So there was no water, but there was a flood.
01:59 What happened was that because the focus was on the flood,
02:02 not everyone could pass, and the Andas was running fast,
02:05 and what happened was that the cross,
02:08 you could only climb up to that point,
02:10 what happened was that the Andas was being pushed.
02:14 So the procession was good.
02:15 The procession was good and fast,
02:17 because if it was on the finance road a few minutes ago,
02:20 it might have been earlier,
02:24 at around 8 or 7 o'clock,
02:28 at Ayala Bridge, when the Andas was there.
02:31 It seems that the result of the decision of the government
02:36 to put the pond in a glass enclosure was good.
02:39 Yes, actually, of course, others reacted to that.
02:43 What happened was that,
02:45 because Father Jones has a strong political will,
02:50 the new priest, that there will be a change.
02:53 But what's good about that is that he still considered
02:56 that the whole ritual should not be lost.
03:00 So the one that takes a long time, the passing,
03:03 was removed.
03:04 And what happened is that, the theme now,
03:07 we love to see Jesus.
03:10 The many cattle that were beside the Lord were removed.
03:15 They were all killed.
03:17 So what happened now is, but the passing of the pond was continued.
03:21 So that's what's good.
03:22 The whole thing was still watched.
03:24 Watched.
03:25 Professor, please explain.
03:27 Maybe for those, especially for those who are far away,
03:30 it's hard to understand this kind of very severe devotion.
03:34 They will hurt themselves, they will blame everything.
03:37 Sometimes, the child is still with them, sometimes there is a feeling,
03:39 but they will force it.
03:41 What is the benefit of this?
03:42 Well, first of all, it is always said that 365 days,
03:47 the senior priest, you can go there quickly,
03:52 you will wipe the vicar or the altar mayor, the venerable,
03:57 and you will have power in the flock, you will be great.
04:01 But that is not the point.
04:03 The point here is to show love.
04:08 So, for example, Parents' Friday, you will all go there.
04:11 Or January 9, you will all go there.
04:14 This is because of the struggle.
04:17 First, it reflects your struggle in real life,
04:19 but also that you are able to show sacrifice.
04:24 This is the point of this day.
04:26 It's a act of love.
04:28 And this is what other analysts always say,
04:32 "Because there are other Filipinos, that's why Filipinos are asking God."
04:37 But in truth, those who we interview, of course, they ask for it.
04:41 But more people are praying.
04:43 And praying means a vow to do something regularly
04:47 because there was a previous request.
04:51 So, this is why the main point of this day is to show gratitude.
04:55 Okay.
04:57 In the past years, decades, maybe even centuries,
05:01 Professor, what has changed and what has remained the same
05:05 in our struggle for the peace?
05:10 Well, first of all, in the 1700s, it was just a few.
05:16 In the time of the Americans, you can see that they are already beating the old.
05:22 So, one person needs to rise up, to be disciplined.
05:26 Our population is increasing.
05:29 The number of people who are praying is increasing.
05:34 That's why the old pinga, that's what they were carrying,
05:37 was made into a Lubed, in extent, for inclusivity.
05:41 Many people can still pass.
05:43 And until now, that's what hasn't changed.
05:46 The people are still there.
05:48 It grew because in 2007, there was a translation.
05:53 This is Luneta Resal Park in Orosan.
05:57 The Nazareno Church was there before.
06:00 It was brought to Intramuros and eventually, it was copied to Quiabong.
06:04 That's what it commemorates.
06:07 And when it grew, in the past, there was no live coverage, only on the radio.
06:12 In the past, it was only on 6 o'clock news.
06:15 But now, because there are 24-hour news networks,
06:19 there is increased media coverage.
06:22 There is live feed.
06:23 That's why what's happening is that people are also being deceived.
06:27 They are also hyped.
06:28 Aside from the many answered prayers attributed to the Nazareno.
06:33 Right.
06:34 Professor, thank you very much for the very interesting points that you mentioned.
06:39 Whatever it is, this is about devotion.
06:44 This is about the faith, the belief of the devotees.
06:48 Baka Puso, that's our update from here in the Kirinagrandstand.
06:52 We will go back to the studio. Thank you.
06:54 Thank you, sir.
06:55 Thank you.
06:56 [END]