Dyche on Everton second financial charge and Palace FA cup replay
Dyche on Everton second financial charge and Palace FA cup replay
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00:00 Hi.
00:01 HE CLEARS HIS THROAT
00:03 Hi.
00:04 Hi, mate.
00:09 Afternoon, everyone, welcome to our pre-match press conference.
00:15 To preview our FA Cup tie with Crystal Palace, we'll start off with Dini at Sky.
00:19 Sean, obviously we're going to have to start with the latest PSR charge,
00:22 was this news less out of the blue than the previous charge,
00:25 and did you know the club had submitted a PSL figure
00:29 that effectively put them in breach of the rules?
00:31 Yeah, I knew before the news break, and not too far before,
00:35 they fill me in when I need to know basis.
00:38 I think it's...
00:41 I think what I'm... A bigger picture view, if you like,
00:43 I've been here approaching a year,
00:45 and my timeline, and certainly by the recent stats and facts,
00:49 I think we're in the bottom three or four net spend over the last three or four seasons,
00:53 so there's a start point of the club motioning to do things correctly.
00:57 Since I've been here, as you know, we let players go out of contract,
01:00 some we would have kept, but we couldn't do that.
01:03 We've been working hard to lower everything here,
01:07 and we sold three young players in the timelines we were given
01:10 to make sure the money was in.
01:12 We wouldn't have normally sold them young players, quite obviously.
01:16 New stadium speaks for itself, the effect they'll have on the city,
01:20 as much as anything, the Avatonians.
01:22 The old stadium being developed for good causes, which you certainly know of,
01:26 alongside that, trying to still put a team out there that can be competitive, of course,
01:32 and all the things that go with that, still trying to work within numbers,
01:35 signing players who we don't even do deals until they're a year's time,
01:39 and trying to find ways to still be competitive as we could do.
01:44 And then, you know, you sort of end up with an on-pitch sanction,
01:48 and you're like, "Well, we're trying to do everything we can to solve all these conundrums."
01:53 There's mistakes we've made, I'm sure, down the years there has been,
01:56 but that's a natural part of football, particularly with player training,
01:59 it's not an exact science, it's very difficult, in fact.
02:03 And you come away with it, and we get the initial spell,
02:05 which is still the focus, the appeal side of things,
02:08 and you lose 10 points, and you think, "Well, it's an on-pitch sanction."
02:12 But we've actually been cutting the idea of being on-pitch powerful,
02:17 you know, by resources, by trying to do the right things.
02:19 So it's been a tough one in my timeline of a year to take, you know,
02:23 and we still haven't found out about the appeal yet,
02:26 we're still waiting on that, and news on that.
02:28 But I think that's a broad view of, there's a lot going on at this football club,
02:31 they've tried to do it right, and then within amongst that,
02:33 or shortly before I got here, or relatively shortly, a war, you know,
02:36 and you've got sanctions on ownership and all that, so...
02:39 It is a strange situation to get an on-pitch sanction of 10 points,
02:43 which we're still waiting on the appeal, quite obviously.
02:46 Who knows what comes next? So we've got to watch this space.
02:49 So really, I suppose that encapsulates a sort of a year's view of what's been going on,
02:55 and I'm trying to give you a feel of it, and I must make it clear,
02:58 that's my common-sense field view as a football person.
03:01 I haven't got the minutiae of the rules and the regulations,
03:05 that's for the powers that be and the lawyers and all stuff like that,
03:08 but I think sometimes you put all that in the melting pot,
03:11 and you go, "Well, there's no on-pitch advantage there."
03:13 You know, we get an on-pitch sanction, so that is a tough one, without a shadow of a doubt.
03:18 Now, we hope there's better news comes out of the appeal,
03:23 then the next bit comes along, and that's kind of something that's encapsulated in all of that.
03:28 Who knows what comes next? I think we're all wondering, we're all scratching our heads,
03:31 and certainly we're hopeful that a change in what's going on occurs,
03:36 and we get some points back, and it's probably looked at a bit differently.
03:39 If you'd known all this was coming along, would it have affected your decision to take the job?
03:45 No, I don't believe so. I don't mind getting my teeth into something.
03:48 It's a great history, great club, great old stadium.
03:54 We know that the new one's needed, but it's a great old stadium,
03:57 one that I've been to many times, and so these chances don't always come along.
04:01 And the perfect job, when you're an out-of-work manager, the perfect job is very rare.
04:06 You're probably going to get something with its challenges.
04:08 I would suggest there's been more here than a lot of jobs that I was offered
04:12 down my nine or so months out the game, but I'm never going to knock that,
04:17 and I thoroughly enjoy the challenge that's right in front of us,
04:20 and I think the players are rushing it.
04:21 I think the fans are more than playing their part.
04:23 They travel all over the place. They get behind us in good voice.
04:27 Strangely, I think there's been a coming together of the people and the club,
04:32 and the badge again, and I'm very, very proud of that.
04:35 It doesn't solve everything, but I think that's a very good sign of a club
04:39 that is willing to come together to fight, come together to protect itself,
04:43 and come together to come through the challenges that are quite obviously right in front of us.
04:47 As you mentioned, the appeal.
04:49 What's your take on the situation where the club is charged for a PSR breach
04:52 in a period that covers 75 per cent of the timescale,
04:55 in which the club has already been punished,
04:57 and that second charge comes before the appeal, as you rightly say.
05:00 The appeal against that punishment has been heard.
05:04 Yeah, the times, like I said, they're a bit of a challenge for us to understand why they're there,
05:09 but like I say, I'm not going to go into the rules and regulations,
05:12 because I'm sure they were laid out.
05:14 I don't know all of them.
05:16 I was trying to give a sort of a view from what my view is, looking at it all,
05:20 and trying to give a common-sense view of what it looks like to me.
05:24 As you suggest, a lot of the charges are already wrapped up in the last one,
05:27 so I don't know where they differentiate that.
05:29 I think that the overlying thing that we're scratching our head about is the first situation, really,
05:36 and our focus remains on the appeal, because the first situation to get 10 points,
05:39 I don't think it was just me that was shocked.
05:41 I think the media, the pundits, the football fans, I think, across the board, were shocked.
05:46 So we've got to wait and see what the appeal brings.
05:49 That might change and alter my view, but it won't alter the bigger-picture view,
05:53 because what I mentioned is all, as I see it, correct.
05:57 We got inside the timelines to put the money back into the system the best we could,
06:01 selling young players.
06:03 The works on the stadium is quite obvious.
06:05 The sanctions about the war, we can't do nothing about that.
06:08 We're still trying to be competitive and keep the integrity of the league as well.
06:12 Put a team out there that can be competitive and try and gain a better fold in the division.
06:19 That's for sure in the last couple of seasons.
06:21 So I think there's a lot of really good work done.
06:23 I remember the idea of the early days of the PSR kind of motioning towards the protection of clubs,
06:30 and how it would be used to protect the situation and to bring finance into a more controllable situation.
06:36 I'm on the side of that, where does that play its part?
06:40 Like I say, going back to the pitch,
06:43 a football sanction for very, I would say, at length to stretch to football-y reasons,
06:48 because we haven't gained anything from all the things I've just told you.
06:51 No on-pitch gain, and yet we've got an on-pitch situation with ten points.
06:56 But it might correct itself, we're just going to wait and see.
06:58 At this stage, though, how concerned are you at the prospect of another footballing sanction
07:02 and another points deduction?
07:04 Well, because of the first situation, I think we're all wondering.
07:09 That's the honest answer. I don't know what the outcome is going to be.
07:13 It will get heard accordingly.
07:15 The appeal is the first thing, our focus remains on the appeal from the last part of it,
07:19 and see where that takes us, I think that's all we can do,
07:21 because of the shock to everyone in the first part of it.
07:24 What guidance are you getting from the powers that be at the club above you?
07:28 The guidance, really, for me is a different thing,
07:30 because my guidance is my own guidance towards the team,
07:33 which is we stay focused.
07:34 I think we've done a good job of doing that, the players have a lot of credit so far,
07:39 because they have stayed focused.
07:40 I think the on-pitch situation has remained strong,
07:43 I think the performances have remained strong.
07:45 Really great running performances that got wins,
07:48 a good running performance that didn't, but that's sometimes the Premier League.
07:52 And my insistence on myself, the staff and the players staying focused on the job in hand,
07:55 which hasn't changed, the up-side hasn't changed at all, from when I got here.
07:59 Can we improve? Can we get better? Can we get stronger?
08:01 Can we develop the players further?
08:03 I think there's signs of all of that.
08:05 Nothing's achieved yet.
08:06 Well, the first achievement was to stay in the division, that was done.
08:09 We've continued that process under some testing, challenging times,
08:13 but they are still there.
08:14 So, therefore, kind of weirdly becoming a norm,
08:18 which is not the norm I was hoping for, but these are the circumstances,
08:21 so the players have got to get on with it, so have I.
08:23 You had to meet with the players again, though, and kind of repeat the message that you sent.
08:26 Yeah, but it's more repeating.
08:28 It's a soft, soft meeting.
08:29 The first meeting, when it all happened, was a bit more informed, a bit more depth,
08:34 explained similar to what you said about a lot of this being wrapped up in the last bit, etc.
08:39 And just reminding them of the good work they're doing and stay focused,
08:42 because the performances are what we're after.
08:44 A side issue is that Richard Masters today gave the impression
08:46 that a decision on the potential takeover could be weeks away,
08:50 whether Premier League decides to ratify the takeover or not.
08:54 Again, how difficult a position does that put you in,
08:56 and what are you hearing in regards to that?
08:58 Could it be soon?
08:59 No, I don't know about that side of things.
09:01 I've explained it hasn't changed yet.
09:04 We're a very casual meeting, no promises made from Neb Harve,
09:07 just suggesting who they are, speaking to us, as I said, about the club and how I found it,
09:12 and that sort of thing.
09:13 So, no more than that until there is more.
09:16 And currently, it's just an ongoing situation with the Premier League and all the situation of
09:21 clearing up the fit and proper and all the rules and regulations and all that side of things.
09:26 So, onwards and upwards, we keep marching on and keep fighting on and keep playing hard.
09:31 How do you stay focused?
09:32 Because the club is in limbo in more ways than one at the moment.
09:36 Yeah, but the job now is still to win football matches.
09:39 It doesn't solve everything, but it does half-help when you get that right.
09:43 So, I think I've never lost sight of that, even beyond on a smaller point than the big points,
09:49 which when people talk about football brands, I've only ever said I want to win.
09:53 I've only said I want to play effective football that can win.
09:55 Hopefully, you play it in a way that people enjoy, but the job is to win.
09:59 That hasn't changed. It won't change.
10:00 I've made that clear to the players, without a doubt, and the staff.
10:04 And that's a prerequisite of the job.
10:06 You should all want to win.
10:07 Some of it we can try and control through performances and winning,
10:12 but we can't control everything.
10:13 I've made that clear to the players.
10:14 We control the controllables, which is our performances to try and win games.
10:18 We should talk about some football.
10:19 No, shall we?
10:20 Finally.
10:21 One of the rare weeks or one of the rare moments of the week since I've been here.
10:24 I wonder what you take from the performances against Palace and against Villa
10:28 that maybe give you something to build on once again.
10:30 Well, I don't think we're far off the bottom of the Walsh game.
10:32 We stepped a long way off.
10:34 I thought there was extenuating circumstances.
10:36 Not going to bother going all through that again.
10:38 Tottenham, very good performance.
10:39 You know, I thought we played well, well enough to get something from that game.
10:43 Even against Man City, a couple of mistakes maybe cost us.
10:46 Decent performance, without a doubt, down at Palace.
10:49 Obviously, a strange sending off that got turned over.
10:53 We'll bring them back up here and take on the next one.
10:55 Not forgetting the Villa game I mentioned.
10:57 I think they're a very good side.
10:58 They're proving that.
11:00 To keep a clean sheet against them is a good sign.
11:02 We've got to do better with the ball at times.
11:04 We know that.
11:05 But they are a good outfit and they're awkward to play against.
11:07 They've shown that all season.
11:09 Football welcome? Distraction?
11:11 Any distractions welcome in the minute.
11:14 Anything.
11:15 I was like getting on the grass and actually watching the lads doing a bit of coaching
11:19 and watching the games and trying to get a win.
11:21 Is it a similar attitude that you're going to take into this competition again
11:24 as you took into the EFL Cup and obviously went to the quarter-finals?
11:27 Yes, we've made it clear that every game is important.
11:30 This one's no different.
11:32 It's important again.
11:32 I think we went down with the right attitude and managed to go and win down at Palace.
11:36 We didn't get the win, but we brought it back here.
11:37 So that's the mindset.
11:39 Whatever team goes out there is 100% clear-minded that we want to win the game.
11:44 Just check on Team News, Ashley Young ready yet?
11:46 Dele?
11:47 Excuse me, yeah, Dele's in a different situation.
11:51 Young is back on the grass with us, training with us,
11:52 but it's too quick to come round for him.
11:54 A couple of knocks,
11:56 Shames, maybe, Dukes, maybe, they've got a couple of knocks.
11:59 More fatigue for Duke, more fatigue.
12:02 Shames has got a tightness in his hamstring, so we're going to have to make a decision on that.
12:05 Yeah, the rest should be about right.
12:08 No problems with Vitaly? You took a bash on the head, didn't you?
12:10 Oh, goodness me, honestly.
12:13 Stitches, I said to him, just get a bit of glue on it, he'll be fine.
12:16 No, them two are fine, superb performances from both of them, actually, but they're fine.
12:21 Thanks for the call, Ian.
12:24 Hi, Sean, just alluding to what you've just spoken about briefly,
12:29 but in terms of how important the FA Cup is in terms of having a cup run
12:33 and how it can affect, possibly in a good way, the positivity that you're having to generate?
12:39 Yeah, there's no lack of positivity, it doesn't need a cup situation to change that.
12:43 I think there's been a positive mood all season.
12:45 It helps, of course, when you're winning games, so I'm more interested in winning at this stage.
12:50 That winning feeling we've worked hard to get, we've done it this season on many occasions,
12:54 we've got to refine that and I think that's part of it.
12:56 The fact it's a Cup game is one of those things, it's just part of the fixture list.
13:00 I've always had respect for the Cups, but we know it's not the same respect as the Premier League.
13:04 We know where it lives, that's the key aim again,
13:07 but we've made it clear through the Cup competition so far that we're putting outside that we believe can win.
13:12 You've earned the right to have a home tie, having got the replay,
13:16 and if you can win, there's a big incentive there because you will have another home tie in the next round?
13:20 Yeah, we want to be as good as some, we want to play there, the fans have been absolutely terrific,
13:25 they continue to be so, so that's an added incentive to win the game, of course.
13:30 And is it just a case now of finding goals, the last three games without a goal,
13:34 although two clean sheets as well?
13:36 Yeah, there's a balance to be found, I've spoken about it endlessly,
13:40 and we've found it at times, we're not far off at the moment, we're creating still,
13:45 and I think against some good sides as well, so a lot to be liking about the performances,
13:51 even against Villa, we know they can deal with the ball, they've done that all season,
13:55 you have to defend properly and we did.
13:56 The back five unit were excellent, I thought, the team in front doing their bit as well,
14:01 just with the ball, we've done better in other games and affected the opposition more times than we did against them.
14:05 That can sometimes happen against the teams that have high confidence and high up the division as well.
14:10 Hi, Sean, just on the FFP again, at the end of the season, if teams are charged,
14:22 the table might not be finalised pending appeal, it could lead to a bit of a chaotic period,
14:28 just wondering what you made of that scenario?
14:30 Well, I could only imagine that with all these things going on,
14:33 it takes time to get all the people necessary to it.
14:35 I think if they get it inside of the season, I think that would be helpful.
14:39 I don't think anyone wants to finish the season and be scratching their head wondering.
14:42 We'd like to think we won't be in that predicament, but you never know, someone might be.
14:46 But yeah, I mean, it's what I presume, it's just a physical thing,
14:51 they can only get these things done so quickly, that's the only thing.
14:54 I can imagine, I haven't really looked into it, but that's the only thing I can imagine.
14:56 So, I would think they'd want to get things done inside of the season as well.
15:00 Thank you.
15:01 Any further questions?
15:04 Any other questions?
15:05 Phil?
15:06 Just on Sean Fitzgerald, he said that he thinks that Pogba is leading the race with Bonnie Watt.
15:15 Yeah, I mean, I think there's a team ethic and I think he's aware of that.
15:20 We ask all players to attack and defend together and I think that's shown with the defensive side.
15:25 At times, the attacking side, I still think we can be more clinical in that side of the game.
15:29 But yeah, he's getting a reward for his part in a team that works very hard to defend properly.
15:35 Any further questions in the open section?
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