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00:00 Hello and welcome to this yet another special international broadcast on the consecration
00:06 ceremony of Ram temple. January 22nd is the day and all roads are leading to Ayodhya.
00:14 Prime Minister Narendra Modi is leading the nation. In fact, I would say leading the world
00:19 to India with this consecration ceremony. Joining me on the broadcast today are gentlemen
00:25 faces, families from the Middle Eastern part of the world, the Gulf nations, as we all
00:31 know, and as we spoke earlier during this show in the run up to the show, our guests,
00:40 our esteemed guests agreed that a small India resides outside India as well in their hearts
00:47 and in their vicinity. Let's begin the interaction and the session here with Mr. Ram Jalan. Joining
00:54 us from Dubai, if I'm not wrong, Mr. Jalan. Right, Mr. Pankaj. That's right. I'm in Dubai
01:01 right now. Yeah. Lovely. Mr. Ram Jalan there in the center. And as they say, Lord Ram too
01:07 is the center of attraction. On the left hand side of the screen, Ranjit Bhagat from UAE,
01:14 Kumar Padmanabh also from UAE and last but not the least, Hemant Joshi there all the
01:20 way from Bahrain. Let me begin with Mr. Joshi first here. Hemantji, the day is big, no doubt,
01:30 but for Indians who reside outside, how's the feeling and what is the fervor there in
01:36 your country in Bahrain and also deep down inside from the Ramayana till date, what are
01:44 the things that you see yourself changing within you? Well, thank you, Mr. Pankaj and
01:50 thank you all the gentlemen here on the screen. You know, it's a matter of great honor and
01:57 privilege to be talking about this particular event. I extend my greetings to all my brothers,
02:07 sisters, youngsters and elders on this occasion of Ram Janmabhoomi Pran Pratishtha, which
02:15 is happening on 22nd of January. This is a very momentous and unprecedented incident
02:24 in the life of any nation. Very rarely do we witness such important and significant
02:31 events as we are going to witness in just the next 72 hours. We are on the threshold
02:45 of this particular event and we all consider ourselves as very fortunate to be born during
02:54 this era. Now, the relevance of Ram is paramount in all our lives and there is no question
03:09 that all our conscience, all our actions, all our behavior historically have been driven
03:17 by this particular great idol that we have or the ideal, I would say. Because, you know,
03:26 Ram is a paragon of all the virtues which have been there in our civilization. Virtues
03:37 as honesty, integrity, caring, love, affection, the role of Dharma and the righteousness which
03:46 he has demonstrated all his life. That is something which helps us to move out and live
03:53 every moment of our existence in the realization that we have such a great heritage and such
04:00 a great beacon for all of us to emulate. Now, having been in Bahrain, you know, the last
04:08 15 to 20 days, I have seen an extraordinary oozing out of enthusiasm and energy. As a
04:17 matter of fact, Bahrain has got so many temples. In fact, one of the oldest temples in the
04:23 Middle East is in Bahrain. It's a 200 year old temple, Srinathji Temple. In fact, in
04:30 2019, Prime Minister Modi ji visited Bahrain on the occasion of the renovation of this
04:39 temple. The activities in Bahrain are all around as far as the spirituality and religion
04:46 practices are concerned. We have temples where every single festival right from Navratri,
04:53 Dasara, Diwali, Holi, you know, name any festival and activities are happening here with full
04:59 enthusiasm and full fervor. People take part. There are satsang all around. Saints and erudite
05:07 wise people do visit Bahrain and we have their talks. And so it's a kind of Ram Udaya. It's
05:14 something, you know, we have been living here and now we are seeing an extraordinary sort
05:21 of interest which has been aroused because of this particular event. And I think we are
05:29 very fortunate, as I said in the very beginning, to witness all the things that are going to
05:35 happen.
05:36 Stay with us, Hemantji. Ram Jalan there from Dubai. Mr. Ram, you know, when I spent some
05:44 time in Africa, the first thing that my African colleagues would struggle with and then ask
05:49 the meaning was the meaning of my name and how to pronounce it also. Your name, Ram,
05:54 and parents since time immemorial have been naming their kids as Ram. The story remains
06:01 the same. One idol. How do you introduce yourself in Dubai to your friends when they ask the
06:06 meaning of your name and also for how long you have been there? Tell us how is it in
06:10 Dubai for you?
06:11 First of all, Dubai is a great place when it comes to confluence of cultures and people.
06:18 And that's the strength of the place. And I've spent some time here. So I realized that
06:23 the embodiment Ram is not a idol, it's not a God. It's a way of life. It's a way of,
06:33 you know, living your life in the righteous way to travel the righteous path. And that
06:39 has, this is something that has connected people on this subject of Ram. And jokingly
06:46 within friends and colleagues, we say that Ram is like an open source library. You can
06:52 draw quotes from it and customize your way of life the way you want it to be. Therefore,
06:58 it breaks the barrier of a religion, caste, creed, or a society. It is pervasive, it's
07:05 fluid, it's natural. And that's the strength of this personality Ram. And what I saw while
07:15 there are plenty of temples in Dubai that is being visited regularly for worshipping.
07:22 There is one particular temple, which is in Jabail Ali, newly made, newly constructed.
07:28 You know, our PM also visited it and was part of the ceremony. There I have seen the way
07:33 they worship Ram is something magnum. And especially last few weeks, I was there on
07:40 1st of January, the entire enigma, the entire excitement around this occasion of 22nd January
07:48 was visible. And that was visible in the right way of celebrating a moment, you know, and
07:58 that motivated me overall.
07:59 Right. Indeed. I mean, talking about the celebrations and the way, even in the proximity of India,
08:07 Dubai, I would say Bahrain, UAE, not very, very far away from India yet. The way they
08:13 have imbibed the culture, the traditions is something which is very unique. Ranjit Bhagat
08:20 ji, you are there in a UAE BAPS temple recently inaugurated by Prime Minister Modi there,
08:28 speaks volume in itself, that how UAE has also embraced Indian culture, giving equal
08:38 identity and respect to one of the oldest traditions and religions in the world. How
08:46 is the feeling for you to be in UAE, not very far away from India yet not disconnected also,
08:52 I would say, what do you carry when you come to India? And when you go back to Abu Dhabi,
08:58 apart from the longing of the family members and the loved ones, what is it that connects
09:04 you to India every time?
09:07 Like being in Abu Dhabi, I will tell you that it's feeling like we are in India only. It's
09:13 a great Indian community here. We are the largest community in UAE, also in Abu Dhabi
09:18 as well. And first, I will tell you about this event, like Mr. Hemant has told that
09:24 we are fortunate to born in this era. For this event, generations and centuries we have
09:29 waited for this event. Yes, the importance of Lord Ram has always been there since we
09:35 born till we die. We always talk about, always imbibe their principles in our life to have
09:43 a proper meaning of life, how to lead life. We have always, Ram has always been a source
09:49 of how we should lead. But yes, we are fortunate to witness this event, which is going to happen
09:57 on 22nd of January. So great achievement, great moment of pride for all of us. And yes,
10:05 that Bab's Mandir is going to be inaugurated in second week of February. It's already been
10:12 completed and Prime Minister Modi is coming and there is one event, Ahlan Modi is going
10:16 to be held on 30th February in Abu Dhabi, where the formal inauguration of that temple
10:22 will happen. And if you talk about that, the community that yes, like here, we find like
10:30 all the Indian communities are more connected. We don't feel that we are away from India.
10:35 However, we are staying in UAE, but still we are living like in India only.
10:44 That's so reassuring and so relieving to know that even away from home, that part is not
10:53 missing from our identity, from our existence there. Kumar Padmanabhaji, before I come to
10:59 you, let me quickly share with our viewers a small anecdote. Having spent some time in
11:06 Africa, you know, exposed me to the history of colonialism in India. And as we all know
11:14 what is called the quote unquote indentured laborers. A lot of families voluntarily forcefully
11:21 were taken from several sea port cities of India to South Africa and other parts of the
11:29 southern continent, including Mauritius and other places. I spoke to those families, the
11:37 third generation or the fourth generation that is here, and they are carrying this notion
11:42 and this belief and this knowledge that their parents, when they left Indian shores centuries
11:51 ago, they carried Ramcharitmanas with them. And that has been passed on to the generations.
11:58 Kumar Padmanabhaji comes all the way from Sopore district in Bihar, part of Madhwani
12:04 district and Bihar houses the Janki Stan also, if I'm not wrong Padmanabhaji, where Sita
12:14 Mata was born. From there to UAE, what is the feeling? And tell us when you moved there
12:22 to UAE, you have your family also there. What all do you bring from the Mithila Samaj, Maitili,
12:29 the name itself, which comes from Sita to till now, how is it and what's your feeling
12:34 on this big day today?
12:36 Yeah. So I've been living here for more than five years and the experience has been amazing.
12:46 I will tell you some unique practices that we are doing. So I was living in Bangalore
12:55 and if you see the religious activity I was doing in Bangalore, we are doing much more
13:02 in Abu Dhabi, UAE than in any city in India. Not only religious, every aspect of the cultural
13:12 activity that we are doing, even we are celebrating small festivals that are completely dying
13:21 in India. So I mean new generation are not doing that. I would like to throw lights on
13:34 what the Indian diaspora is doing apart from the religious activity. So if you see typically
13:44 the average age of India is around 30 years, maybe slightly less. But the people who go
13:51 outside India, if you see their age, the average age is even lesser, maybe 28, 27 kind of things.
14:01 Now typically there is a huge impact of religion on the elder people, like someone in 50s or
14:10 60s. But you'd be amazed to know the impact of Ram on the young generation who is living
14:19 outside is amazing, not only from religious angle, because religious comes once in a while
14:27 in our life, but the cultural aspect comes always, it is always there. So one aspect
14:35 is like everyone is hearing that in the next 30 years or 40 years will be the second biggest
14:44 economy or at least the third biggest economy and all of us are contributing to that. So
14:50 there is a positive environment all over the places and this particular event, this particular
14:59 event is adding a catalyst to that. So everyone is having some kind of feeling that even I
15:07 will contribute. So apart from the religious aspect, it is also adding to overall cultural
15:17 enthusiasm. And I mean, in one way or the other, it is also adding value to the economic
15:25 development that we are foreseeing in the future.
15:27 Very, very crucial aspect there, very crucial aspect there. And not just economic development
15:32 of India, but vice versa also the country that you are in contributing there, Mr. Joshi
15:37 himself there, he happens to be one of the very enthusiastic, I would say ambassadors
15:44 of not just Indianness, but also of what we are. Basically, we are just part of one big
15:51 family Vasudev Kutungam. Hemantji, your association and your role in Bahrain about bringing the
16:01 teams together, organizing events. I mean, we saw some pictures also where you have been
16:07 an active participant. Please share with us how it is and what do people learn from Indians,
16:15 if I may ask, in Bahrain and vice versa, what do we learn from them?
16:19 You know, Bahrain is a place, it's a kind of melting pot of all civilizations. And if
16:25 you see the representation of Indians in Bahrain is almost like 30 to 35%. The one thing which
16:33 is very striking about Bahrain and very interesting is that there are almost like 40 to 50 cultural
16:40 organizations. And like, for example, we have Maharashtra Mandir, we have Karnataka society,
16:46 Indian cultural associations, in addition to a very vibrant Indian club. Now what happens
16:54 in most of these cultural associations is that they always have, especially for the
17:00 children, they have this kind of Sanskrit classes or, you know, the value based education.
17:07 For instance, we have a Chinmaya society here on every weekend. They have these classes
17:13 where they teach children about the importance of the spirituality, the religious practices,
17:20 studying your faith and being able to, you know, live life in a very meaningful manner.
17:28 Now what is striking is there is a huge group of youngsters who are getting associated with
17:34 this kind of value based education. And Bahrain being a very tolerant society, they are very
17:41 magnanimous in their approach and they are really truly secular and they welcome the
17:47 expats with open arms and a big smile on their face. So every single activity which is being
17:53 done here by Indians is also equally participated by the Bahrain officials. This sends a very
18:02 strong message to all the people across the society and especially I'm talking here of
18:07 the youngsters. I've seen, especially in the last two, three weeks, I've seen young boys
18:14 attending this Ram Raksha reciting and Bhima Rupi, you know, we have and then we have this
18:20 Bhajan. So what has actually happened is something which was already there, which is already
18:27 being taught to children and passed on to them in terms of values, culture, heritage
18:32 and religious practices. And of course, the importance of spirituality in life. All that
18:37 has got suddenly got a big stimulus, I would say, it's kind of galvanized because of what
18:44 is happening around in India, in terms of Ram Mandir or any other promotion of Indian
18:52 culture and heritage. And thanks to Prime Minister Modi ji, who has been kind of, he
18:59 has been a catalyst in bringing a renaissance, I would say, in the spiritualism or in terms
19:06 of the culture and the great values that we all have been inheriting. And so, you know,
19:14 I feel very happy and satisfied that the youngsters are getting into this fold. You know, earlier,
19:22 if you see 30, 40 years ago, a person to go into yoga and meditation, he would do it only
19:28 after probably 50 or 55 years. Today, you see youngsters who do these kind of practices
19:36 are not very, very involved and very much inquisitive about it. And the fact of the
19:41 matter is that with this particular event, which is happening in the next two days, and
19:45 especially whatever is happening around, this arousing of the interest and curiosity is
19:51 going to help them to learn more about Indian culture, more about our civilization, more
19:57 about our history, and promote what is being taught to us by from generations, by people
20:06 and by different symbols of worship or faith that we have. So I find it a very, very, it's
20:14 a paradigm shift, I would say, a complete shift and transformation in the psyche of
20:20 especially of the youngsters. And parents are very much in tune and they are very keen
20:25 in making this happen. And this go on on a kind of a fast track here after a few weeks.
20:32 No, very valid point, Mr. Joshi, I must say, I must say, Mr. Jalan, what Mr. Joshi says
20:39 is something that is finding resonance here in India. You could feel that I mean, talking
20:45 about culture or resorting to, you know, mythological TV series or reading books on that is something
20:53 that we used to associate with our parents or grandparents. But now, I'm just coming
20:59 to you on the same point, just to mention it for the benefit of our viewers and for
21:04 our esteemed panelists here. We at One India are working on 40 different prominent Ram
21:14 temples across India, right from Kishkindha to Kumbakonam to Janki Stan in Bihar to Ram
21:25 temple in Manipur. This project is editorially led by one person who is 24 years old. He's
21:38 the one who is getting the copies in English and Hindi, which is written by a 21 year old
21:44 who is sitting in Vizag, Vishakhapatnam. And my job is to do the voiceover for those documentaries
21:51 that they are making. So the youngsters who are coming to this particular arena, developing
21:56 that interest in what India means. Do you see this changing trend yourself in the Indian
22:05 diaspora in Dubai? And secondly, this particular inauguration of Ram temple, do you see this
22:12 also giving a boost and Philip and more acceptance to all age groups as far as mythology and
22:17 Indian culture is concerned?
22:18 That's a very good point. I want to share my thoughts with two incidents that I had
22:24 recently had in Dubai. First incident as Hemanji mentioned about the young diaspora and the
22:30 yoga thing. On 13th, last week, I was at a joint restaurant where they were having a
22:39 Lohri themed get together. And Lohri is a very colorful festival as we know. And there
22:46 were people from different nationalities. One lady got up, went to the orchestra, the
22:52 DJ, and she said, I heard this song on Instagram called Ram Aayenge. Can you play that for
22:59 me? Next 15 minutes, the entire restaurant was clapping on Ram Aayenge and that lady
23:06 was dancing.
23:07 Wow. It gives me goosebumps.
23:11 I'm getting goosebumps by narrating this story. Because thanks to the social media, it's
23:16 pervasiveness, it's reach and cross blending of cultures. It's no more about language.
23:24 It's no more about religion. It's about sentiment. If something inspires you, makes you emotional,
23:29 makes you connected. And then I went to that lady and asked her that, why do you go and
23:35 why do you like this song? And did you have any religious bias? She gave me a quote. I'm
23:42 assuming it's her quote. She said, if you don't celebrate your roots, in her case, humanity,
23:49 you can't enjoy the fruits. For me, this connected me to some God, some power. I did not mind
23:58 whether it's part of the Hindu culture, but somehow I connected with the song and I wanted
24:03 to hear it here because we all were celebrating. Second incident, I'm learning driving here
24:12 very late now. And I realized the person who is teaching me, I asked him, so what do you
24:18 do? Guru for us is very important. I call him sir. He's young, right? In his early thirties.
24:25 He says, sir, I get up every day in the morning and I practice one hour yoga. I said, where
24:30 are you from? He said, I'm from Afghanistan. I said, yoga? It's not part of your tradition,
24:36 culture, religion. He said, no. I met somebody in Dubai who is a practitioner of yoga. I
24:42 saw Modi ji doing yoga on the international yoga day. I thought this is something good.
24:47 I hooked on and I left my gym and I'm crazy about it now. Unless I do Surya Namaskar every
24:53 day, I don't enjoy. And my family loves walking barefoot on the mud. We have understood the
24:58 importance of culture. So, as I said in the beginning, Rama, way of life. And I think
25:05 this entire 22nd January Pranapratishtha will build that trust and connection of millions
25:12 and millions and billions of more people beyond any religion. That's a huge success for global
25:21 togetherness. Absolutely. I mean, you know, the examples that you gave almost painted
25:29 a picture that we were looking at it, you know, as it must have transpired in front
25:34 of your eyes. And such is the power of, I would say, belief, irrespective of caste,
25:40 creed and religion, how humanity connects us. Amazing, amazing. Ranjit ji, UAE, obviously,
25:50 you know, just the thread that we are mentioning here, one of the very, I would say, already
25:57 developed and also adding new aspects on matching Dubai, the twin cities there. Still, Abu Dhabi,
26:07 many would say that is on a path to progress with the kind of MotoGP contests happen there
26:14 and other international events also happening there. Now, what is it that Indians would
26:22 retain there? You know, as they say, the more we are rooted in our customs and tradition,
26:34 the more farther we go. With that notion, how is it, how do you go about the whole day?
26:45 And with this consecration, Ram Mandir being built in Ayodhya, do you think also get a
26:51 boost there? Yeah, definitely. This event, you know, this is like, it's not about only
26:59 Abu Dhabi and Dubai. It's a global event, has become a global event, actually. And it's
27:03 there's a thread that connecting all the Indians and across the globe. And the Indians are
27:10 now being seen from the host country from a different perspective, actually. When you
27:16 connect to your root, the other people also see that you are not diversified. Now you
27:21 are getting unified, you are getting united, you are getting to your roots. So their perspective
27:27 also is being changing across the globe, actually. If you talk about Abu Dhabi, yes, the economic
27:36 development, if we talk about Dubai and Abu Dhabi, Abu Dhabi still has more capital than
27:41 Dubai. It's a different way of development, actually. So, in a daily life, if you talk
27:49 like, yes, as Pabnavan sir has already told that here we are celebrating more events than
27:56 back in India. I used to be in Delhi. And I rarely found find any time during six years
28:03 of stay in my Delhi to attend any that kind of cultural event. But here I rarely miss
28:09 any kind of cultural event. So that quality time you're getting here, that's the connection
28:15 we are having among the society. This kind of event, it has not become like an Indian
28:20 event. It is a global event. It has a global impact now. So we are also excited. We are
28:27 feeling like we are getting more connected to our roots and definitely it will grow up
28:34 and up.
28:35 Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Ranjit ji, you're right. When it comes to, you know,
28:41 observing and carrying out your daily routine with the Lord in the mind and obviously the
28:47 community also in the mind. But Pabnav ji, Ram Aayenge, this, as Mr Jalan said, has already
28:54 become the theme and anthem sort of here in India. What is the kind of excitement there
29:01 in UAE among the community members all decked up and waiting with bated breath?
29:07 Yeah. So I will say it like, you know, the two incidents. The similar incident that Mr
29:13 Rang has said. So this last week I was, I went on a dinner party that was supposed to
29:20 happen on a cruise. And in that dinner party, like, you know, you can play the song of choice.
29:28 You connect your mobile to the speaker, Bluetooth speaker that is there. So I was supposed to
29:33 connect something. And this Ram Aayenge was in my mobile and incidentally, accidentally
29:39 that like, you know, happened. And it was like, you know, around 100 people on the cruise
29:45 and from different nationalities. So I thought there's something wrong. And I was not able
29:50 to in that moment, I could not figure out what to do, what not to do. So it kept on
29:56 going for 30 seconds. And then I stopped. When I stopped, other people came and told
30:03 me to continue. Okay, and not and those other people were not only from India, from other
30:08 people. And then for next five minutes, we played that song. Everyone danced on that.
30:15 And the amount of energy and poetry in 2011 that were there, it was amazing. That was
30:20 one incident. And the another incident like, you know, when all these things are happening.
30:27 So personally, I'm not a very religious person. I mean, I'm a religious, but I mean, I'm not
30:35 spending much time, although I should be doing. But what happened when all these things happening,
30:41 I thought I should start my work with like, you know, prayer in my puja room and I started
30:48 doing that. So when I started doing that, immediately I found what I mean, when I was
30:55 doing the like, you know, puja for five or 10 minutes, all the events for the day was
31:02 running behind my mind. You know, we all are monkey in some sense when we like, you know,
31:09 sit in like, sit quietly. So in that five minutes, I planned everything and no single
31:18 negative things was coming. Even if it is coming, my mind was suppressing it. So what
31:24 I'm thinking, due to this, like, you know, the event that is happening in India, I started
31:29 participating in this, which is helping me to remove all the negative parts that happens
31:36 in our office or anything. It is giving me positive energy and I believe this must be
31:42 happening to many people who are not in India, who are listening to this event and like,
31:50 you know, planning their day and everything. So I believe in somebody apart from the religious
31:57 part, which is of course there, it is adding value to the common people in many ways, not
32:07 only in India, but across the globe.
32:11 Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Needless to say, such examples of
32:16 I want to add, I want to add one more thing. I could not in the last, since you mentioned
32:23 I'm from Mithila and that we are here. So we have a very big organization here, like,
32:31 you know, Mithil's in UAE. There are more than 600 families in that. And in every three
32:40 months, we get together and do all kinds of cultural activity that we do, like some kind
32:49 of Vidyapati Samarov. And last time, last time it happened just on 14th of January,
32:58 everyone was talking about the Ram, this event that is going to happen on 22nd. Everyone.
33:04 Okay. So although this event was for Makar Sankranti, but this Makar Sankranti event
33:10 eventually become the like, you know, 22nd January things.
33:15 Absolutely. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Very quickly. I know, you know, we are hard
33:21 pressed on time also. Mr. Joshi has a puja at home, if I'm not wrong, Mr. Joshi. Very
33:26 quickly. And I won't keep you waiting here. In, you know, your first response, how to
33:36 be Ram, how do we imbibe the values?
33:39 Well, you know, Ram's life is, as I said, is a paragon of and is a blend of all the
33:48 virtues. You know, there is no human life which has no ups and downs and no trials and
33:54 tribulations. But if we look at Ram's life, you know, the kind of adversities which he
34:00 faced very apparently insurmountable. But he has taught the world or the human race
34:09 as to how to hold, how to be equanimous, how to maintain that equanimity in the midst of
34:15 the stress and the tribulations and to still lead a life of dignity. That is the most important
34:26 thing. And that is why, you know, what we think of Rama is the practice of Dharma and
34:34 righteousness. Now, of course, Dharma is not in the religious sense. What Dharma actually
34:39 connotes is you try to find out whatever is best within yourselves and use it for the
34:44 benefit of yourself as well as the society. I mean, that is what Dharma is. So we have
34:49 an essence within ourselves and we need to find it out and use it for the benefit of
34:54 the society. And this is one thing which probably is a very strong lesson which we can pass
35:02 on to our children that notwithstanding what difficulties you come across, never deviate
35:08 from the road of ethics and morality, because that is something these are the true north
35:15 principles. The true north never changes. And so also is honesty and integrity. And
35:21 of course, the sense of sharing, caring, love, affection, empathy, the sacrifice, the sense
35:27 of, you know, the surrender which you have and doing something so that the person opposite
35:35 you is comfortable, because sometimes we definitely are uncomfortable. But if we are able to make
35:42 the other person give that level of comfort, notwithstanding some of the difficulties which
35:47 you might have, I think that is probably the best way to celebrate the life in the sense
35:52 which Lord Rama has actually demonstrated.
35:57 True. I mean, these values obviously are something which is very innate to human beings also,
36:04 irrespective of being Indian or of any country's origin. But what you mentioned, Mr. Joshi,
36:10 are true. And we could feel it on ourselves also that how to be or not to be. Rama is
36:21 the question. We have Mr. Ram Jalan also with us. Mr. Jalan, how would you reckon and how
36:31 do you feel the concept of Ram within the individuals personally?
36:40 I always believe that Ram gives you courage, gives you discipline and gives you honesty.
36:49 And then as Lord Shiva also, Shivji also told Parvati, Ram Rameti Rameti, Rami Ram Mano
36:55 Rame, Sahasranam Takulyam, Shri Ram Naam Varaname. So, there is nothing bigger than that. And
37:03 this always stays with me that if Shiva has endorsed it, then Shiva is the root of Ram.
37:11 And there is nothing bigger than Ram. And that is the epitome of life, way of life.
37:17 And it stays with me forever and always. Whenever I am in a dilemma, whenever I have to take
37:22 a decision, whenever I have to take the next plunge, He always comes to the rescue. So
37:29 that's the way Ram is for me in my life.
37:33 Absolutely. Absolutely. Prophetic, I would say. Ranjeet ji, difficult times, competition,
37:42 we have to look at not only ourselves but also the careers of children, the future, everything.
37:49 I won't say race, but yes, definitely there is some sense of urgency associated with everything.
37:57 Do you believe that we need to stop by? Do you think, since I'm asking you this, because
38:04 you're connected to India, but you have the vantage point of looking at the younger generation
38:11 from both sides of perspective, within the country and outside also. How do you see it?
38:17 See, I don't think that there is a need to stop. Race will always be there. You need
38:23 to be on the right path, what Lord Rama has taught us. We need to imbibe at least some
38:28 of the qualities, not all. It's not possible for anybody to imbibe all the qualities, at
38:33 least to have some qualities, if we could imbibe to be on the right path, to do whatever
38:38 you are doing with utmost integrity. And my only prayer and I wish that Lord Rama bestow
38:45 upon all of us his blessings and India should become like this, should be a Ram Rajya. Of
38:52 course, there is Ram Rajya as of now as well, but we hope, we pray that we all have that
38:57 economic Ram Rajya by having that organic development in coming future. Yes, other countries
39:02 have become developed. They have not been on the righteous path always, but India has
39:06 always chosen to be on the right path. And we pray that Lord Rama bestow his blessings
39:13 and we should become economic Ram Rajya will be in India very soon.
39:18 Right, absolutely. Mr. Padmanabh, your final comments on how do we see the developments
39:25 here back home in India and the image that India is now being seen because of all its
39:33 might, its developments, its science and tech plus its deep rooted tradition also.
39:39 Yeah, if you see this particular event has amplified and it has reached to everyone within
39:48 the country and outside. So what is going to happen? People have seen it, people have
39:56 faced it. So, and we are younger generation people. As I have told you, it is the average
40:04 age of India is 30 years. Outside it is 28 years. So 28 years people when they will see,
40:13 if they have to take any decision, you will always be God fearing, Ram fearing. You will
40:20 never take any step wrong. Number one, all of us in a day to day life, we always face
40:28 difficulty and all of us, we always go through difficult times. And sometimes we take negative
40:35 steps or I will say not so positive step in the difficult time. So Lord Ram is going to
40:43 show us the path since it is amplified to this situation. Everyone is going to learn
40:52 from his right. I mean his like lessons. So it is going to impact all of us in a very
41:02 very positive way. And even if I have to write an academic answer, what are the negative
41:09 aspects of it, I don't say it. Great. Thank you so much. Yes, Mr. Jalan. I just want to
41:17 share something very interesting. When first time, I was very young when this first Ram
41:21 Janmabhoomi thing happened. And I was talking to someone, I was born in Calcutta, I stayed
41:26 in Calcutta for a long time. And I was talking to someone there, a Panditji and I said,
41:33 "Mandir kap banega?" He said a very interesting thing which has stayed with me. I'm just saying
41:40 it in English is Ram's journey is not about destination. Ram's journey is about his journey.
41:48 And the entire story of Lord Ram is about those 14 years, not about his annexation or
41:55 going to Lanka and killing Ravana. It's all about the 14 years he spent and the lives
42:02 and the souls he touched and the messages he created for everyone. So therefore focus
42:07 on the journey, not the destination. Destinations keep changing. Your journey has to be in some
42:12 total of what you do. Absolutely. I mean, hats off to that Panditji. Also, you know,
42:21 such impressionable mind at that young age, Mr. Jalan. And that stays with you. And you
42:27 know, that shapes our lives also. And Mr. Jalan, as he mentioned, comes from Kolkata,
42:32 West Bengal. Obviously, when I was working on Ram Raj Tola Ram Mandir, Mr. Jalan, which
42:38 is there in Howrah, I got to know that even Hare Rama, Hare Krishna was coined by Bengali
42:46 poet Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, finds its origin in West Bengal, now taken by ISKCON as Hare
42:52 Rama, Hare Krishna. So a lot of connections, you know, in other northeastern parts of the
42:58 country also. Nonetheless, I mean, this is a conversation which will go on for the longest
43:02 time. Thank you so much, gentlemen, for taking time out for speaking to us and sharing your
43:07 views of how we remember and we imbibe Ram in our daily lives. Thank you so much.