• 10 months ago
Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 29th January 2024
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00:25:38 This is the number.
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00:26:24 Welcome back once again.
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00:40:14 Thank you so much.
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00:40:36 I want to add something.
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00:41:16 I'm not saying--
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00:41:41 No way I'm not--
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00:41:49 Otherwise, I stand by my allegation.
00:41:59 I stand by every word I mentioned in my FIR.
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00:42:11 Sign is-- I'm like--
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00:44:16 Welcome, Gaushya. Welcome to Pakistan and to our show.
00:44:22 Thank you. Thank you for--
00:44:26 And I want to say it in my language, [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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00:44:34 Oh, wow. [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
00:44:36 So, Gaushya, how are you finding Pakistan?
00:44:38 How are the people?
00:44:40 And how long are you traveling now?
00:44:42 How many days have you been over here?
00:44:44 Oh, I've lived in Pakistan.
00:44:46 I moved there last year.
00:44:48 So here I'm doing my business.
00:44:50 So I'm living in Islamabad nowadays.
00:44:53 And I found Pakistan as a very beautiful country,
00:44:56 rich culture, beautiful people,
00:44:59 which are very nice to us, especially to tourists.
00:45:02 And everything so far, my experience, are very good.
00:45:06 And how long have you been in Pakistan?
00:45:08 Like, I heard that you know some Urdu words,
00:45:11 as well.
00:45:12 So can you speak in Urdu?
00:45:14 Yeah. [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
00:45:16 I can also say, like, [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
00:45:25 Very nice.
00:45:31 So there is, like, some words.
00:45:33 Yeah, I'm learning.
00:45:34 I'm learning Urdu now, nowadays.
00:45:36 That is so brilliant.
00:45:37 Very impressive.
00:45:38 Very impressive.
00:45:39 And OK, so, Gopia, which cities have you visited till yet?
00:45:44 So far, I visited, like, of course, Islamabad, Karachi,
00:45:48 Lahore, Sialkot, Bahawalpur, Multan, Gilgit, Faisalabad,
00:45:56 Karimabad, Muzaffarabad.
00:45:59 So I was-- and Peshawar, yes.
00:46:02 OK.
00:46:03 South to north.
00:46:04 Can you tell me, like, I heard that you want to stay here.
00:46:08 So what did happen, and when did you decide that you're not
00:46:13 going back?
00:46:14 Is it so?
00:46:15 Yes, that's true.
00:46:17 I moved to Pakistan last year.
00:46:19 I'm the owner of travel agency, and I'm bringing, nowadays,
00:46:22 European tourists to Pakistan, which I'm finding as a very,
00:46:26 very good opportunity to soften the image of Pakistan,
00:46:29 to change the view of the Pakistan on European market
00:46:33 for European people, which is very important.
00:46:36 Now I feel it's, like, my mission.
00:46:38 And it's a growing business.
00:46:40 It's going very good.
00:46:41 So here, my stay in Pakistan is also very important,
00:46:45 not only for my personal development, because I found
00:46:48 Pakistan as a country with many great opportunities.
00:46:52 I also would like to start other business here, because I'm also
00:46:55 a PhD in pharmaceutical science.
00:46:58 Wow.
00:46:59 Maybe one day I will open a chain of pharmacies here in
00:47:03 Pakistan, because it's related to my main profession.
00:47:07 So I have many ideas what to do in Pakistan, what to bring to
00:47:12 Pakistan, like, from Europe, and that's my new way of life.
00:47:17 Okay, so, Gaushia, that means you feel absolutely safe being
00:47:21 a female traveler in Pakistan.
00:47:23 What message would you like to give to the world?
00:47:25 And I want to add one thing more.
00:47:26 Yeah, please go on.
00:47:27 What were your impression about Pakistan earlier, when you
00:47:30 didn't visit here, when you didn't come over here?
00:47:34 And now what has changed over the course of one year?
00:47:39 Yes, my first impression, of course, what is shown in Western
00:47:42 media that it's not a safe country.
00:47:44 Of course, it's not good to travel, for example, alone.
00:47:48 But my impression here, of course, changed.
00:47:51 When I came here first time, it was 2022, and that was the
00:47:54 moment when I got very good impression of the country.
00:47:58 And I realized that it's very -- the people are very nice,
00:48:01 especially to me.
00:48:02 And, for example, when I travel alone, they are always ready to
00:48:06 help me.
00:48:07 I was traveling between many cities here in Pakistan by
00:48:11 plane, by bus, by cars.
00:48:14 And everywhere when I was alone, people were eager to help me
00:48:18 if I needed any help.
00:48:20 So that was very great experience, which sometimes you
00:48:23 don't even experience in Europe.
00:48:25 In Europe, you are more like alone with everything.
00:48:28 And here are people who are really very nice to me.
00:48:31 And what do you like the most?
00:48:33 What about the food?
00:48:34 Do you like our food?
00:48:36 And which food do you think is -- must be your favorite?
00:48:39 My favorite so far is biryani.
00:48:43 I like so much the flavor of biryani and paratha.
00:48:46 Oh, my God.
00:48:47 Also golgappa.
00:48:48 Oh, I love golgappa and biryani, too.
00:48:50 And since you have mentioned that you have visited both
00:48:53 Karachi and Lahore, please tell us Karachi's biryani is the best.
00:48:57 Please go on.
00:48:58 Please say it.
00:48:59 I was living in Karachi for a few months, so, yeah, I can say that.
00:49:04 Because there's always been a huge debate between Lahoris and
00:49:07 Karachiites, whose biryani is the best.
00:49:10 So you have decided that Karachi's biryani is the best.
00:49:13 Right?
00:49:14 Yes.
00:49:15 Authenticated.
00:49:16 Okay.
00:49:17 So, again, you visited from south of Pakistan to the north of Pakistan.
00:49:23 You visited the coastal beach.
00:49:25 You visited the northern mountains.
00:49:28 Pakistan has got loads of potential.
00:49:31 What still Pakistan as a tourism industry, in your view, has to do to
00:49:36 engage more and more tourists?
00:49:40 Especially I think it can be some improvement by the government.
00:49:45 When it's going about the infrastructure, about the hotels, that there can be
00:49:50 more and more hotels with better, you know, equipment and the hot water,
00:49:56 electricity, infrastructure of the road.
00:50:00 So there are, like, some of these things, too, which can easier traveling
00:50:03 and even stay for European tourists.
00:50:05 Because in Europe, you know, the people have very high demands.
00:50:10 So when they came here, sometimes they are asking me many questions.
00:50:14 What about this?
00:50:15 What about the hot water?
00:50:17 So I think this could be easier for travelers in the future, and especially
00:50:21 also safety in the country, like stabilization.
00:50:24 So it's also very important for politicians to give good message,
00:50:29 like to not have any problems.
00:50:31 And the image of the country should be, of course, like a stable country,
00:50:36 a safe country.
00:50:38 So this is the most important for tourism.
00:50:40 A very, very positive message.
00:50:42 Gershia, do you want to give some message to the people who still haven't
00:50:48 visited Pakistan?
00:50:49 Do you have anything in mind to tell them?
00:50:53 They should come to Pakistan.
00:50:55 And it's very important to change our point of view, to have broadened minded.
00:51:01 And Pakistan gives the best memories.
00:51:05 It's my best trip when I came here in 2022.
00:51:08 Like, mountains were calling me.
00:51:10 And I still remember this.
00:51:12 And this is something that stays in your mind forever.
00:51:15 So Pakistan gives you impression like no other any country in the world.
00:51:20 So, so sweet of you.
00:51:22 Thank you so much for coming in our show and lovely chatting with you,
00:51:26 meeting with you.
00:51:27 Thank you.
00:51:28 Thank you so much.
00:51:30 Thank you again.
00:51:31 Thank you again.
00:51:32 I liked it.
00:51:33 I liked it.
00:51:34 In one year.
00:51:35 She learned in one year.
00:51:37 So,
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