Justin Penik of the "Talkin' Giants" podcast guested on the Locked On Giants podcast with thoughts about whether general manager Joe Schoen and head coach Brian Daboll can survive another down season.
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00:00 Right now, Shane and David are going into year three. And obviously, you know, John
00:06 Mara has said he doesn't want to keep turning over the GM spot. He doesn't want to keep
00:10 turning over the head coaching spot. So that being said, if the Giants have another down
00:16 year, maybe with a record even worse than last year, six and 11. Do you think they were
00:22 in trouble? Or do you just kind of look at the circumstances as to why they had a down
00:26 year? And do you give them another shot the following year?
00:30 I think they're in trouble if they if they have. So I'm going to forget the the ending
00:36 record for a second. That two and eight stretch even had us questioning in the middle of it.
00:45 Like not like I don't think anybody was calling for Shane or calling for Dable. But through
00:50 the first 10 weeks of the season, I think that we were all whispering, saying, can Dable
00:57 at least Dable can because you're not really talking about the GM in season, I think. Right.
01:02 Can Dable survive this? Because it was it was looking like it was going to be top three
01:07 pick territory, which, hey, that's what a lot of people wanted.
01:09 And I'm kind of glad that in a way I'm glad I think in New York, it's different. I do
01:14 think in New York, it's different where the noise does get louder when you have two or
01:18 three wins in the month of December. I just I think it's different. And we were whispering
01:25 in October like, hey, I we understand how awesome 2022 was. I do think Brian Dable's
01:32 a good coach. I do think Joe Shane deserves a couple more years to have draft classes
01:37 that are good. I really liked the 2023 draft class that they had. But that start was so
01:44 bad that you're like that that may get all thrown away because if they if they don't
01:49 win another game, will John will John Barrett be OK with this?
01:54 So I think last year, let's just say they tread water to an eight and it continues to
02:01 get worse from that to an eight. Yeah, I think Joe Shane and Brian Dable would have survived
02:05 that. But if they get off to another another start like that, where it was just really,
02:12 really bad, really bad football, I don't know if they survive. I really don't. And Dave
02:17 got up and got four years and that this would be Joe Shane and Brian Dable's third year.
02:22 I don't know if they'll be able to survive another really, really bad start like that.
02:26 And I think a lot of people sometimes do forget, well, they did finish the season strong with
02:31 a especially with Tyron and the Tommy DeVito mania was really fun.
02:36 That two and eight stretch was not fun. Football is very, very bad football. And I don't know
02:41 if they could go through that again.
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