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01:15 - Good morning, you're watching Ask Profit
01:24 on NDTV Profit, I'm Smriti Choudhury,
01:26 and for the next 30 minutes,
01:27 we'll take all your stock related queries,
01:29 and to write to us about your queries,
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01:37 You can also write to me on the YouTube live chat,
01:40 and I'll be tracking that
01:41 and we'll be taking questions from there as well.
01:43 Now, let me introduce you to the guests for today.
01:46 We have Ashish Maheshwari of Arihant Capital
01:48 and Osho Krishnan of Angel One joining in on the show.
01:52 Welcome to both of you and thanks for taking the time out.
01:55 - Thank you.
01:58 - Now, before I jump into the focus of the day,
02:02 let's quickly look at where the markets are at
02:05 at this juncture.
02:06 If you look at the benchmark indices,
02:08 they're doing quite well today,
02:10 up about 6/10 of a percent, that's Nifty 50.
02:14 And among sectors, we have Nifty Auto
02:16 that's doing very well today.
02:18 In fact, up over, currently if you look at auto sector,
02:22 it's up about close to 3% right now.
02:26 And among the broader markets,
02:28 if you look at the Nifty Mid Cap
02:29 and the Nifty Small Cap Index,
02:31 Nifty Mid Cap is around 6/10 of a percent up,
02:34 fairly in line with the broader markets,
02:37 while Nifty Mid Cap is up about 8/10 of a percent
02:40 or thereabouts.
02:41 Let's also look at the contributors for the Nifty 50
02:44 that's pulling the index up today,
02:46 if we can get the contributions there.
02:47 You have Mahindra and Mahindra up in trade again today.
02:51 It was the biggest gainer on the Nifty 50 yesterday.
02:54 Then there's Infosys, there's L&T and Maruti.
02:57 So kind of a broad-based day for the benchmarks at least.
03:02 However, that's not the case in the broader markets.
03:04 There are some sort of gainers.
03:06 Let's also look at the breadth of the market today.
03:09 Clearly should be in the favor of the advances,
03:12 if we can pull that up.
03:13 Yeah, clearly in the favor of the advances today,
03:16 about two to one ratio.
03:19 And that's where broadly where the markets are lying.
03:23 However, the focus for today is Gujarat Gas.
03:27 It's down in trade today.
03:28 Now, even though the earnings came out on Monday,
03:32 it's down about 4.5% right now.
03:34 Procurement just came out with their notes
03:36 and they downgraded Gujarat Gas.
03:38 If you look at some of them,
03:40 we have among a lot of brokerages,
03:43 there were downgrades.
03:45 There was the biggest one was from MK.
03:47 And then there was Jeffries also that kind of talked about
03:52 how even though the results were weaker,
03:55 even the expectation in terms of volume growth
03:57 remains subdued.
03:59 The company's focus going forward,
04:02 especially FY25, will to kind of defend its margins.
04:07 So that's pretty much the picture that we're getting.
04:09 And we're seeing that sort of down tick
04:12 in the markets as well.
04:14 We have MK that talked about the volume growth on Morbi
04:16 that stood about 3.7 versus 8.5.
04:19 Now, Ashish, I'll come to you on Gujarat Gas.
04:26 We've seen results kind of a weaker third quarter
04:29 for Gujarat Gas also in terms of commentary,
04:32 the volume growth, I mean, according to the management,
04:37 is going to remain subdued within the company as well.
04:42 But from a longer term point of view,
04:45 how do you view the stock
04:46 and what would you advise people who are holding the stock
04:50 or want to enter the stock?
04:52 - If we see first the stock price performance
04:57 from 620 rupees, which was few days back,
05:00 only the stock is correcting slightly.
05:04 So there's not something like a stock
05:06 was already beaten down.
05:07 The stock was at a rich valuation.
05:09 But only problem is that the kind of numbers
05:13 which came to 120 gold pad,
05:15 which have this even quarter over quarter
05:17 from almost 300 crore pad,
05:19 it decreased by almost 80 crores,
05:21 which is something like worrying for the market.
05:24 And you rightly pointed out a volume related question
05:28 to Morbi in the tiles industry,
05:29 which is their major market,
05:32 is creating some pressure
05:33 on this particular company's profitability.
05:37 So my view will be a company is good
05:39 and fundamentally nothing wrong with the company,
05:43 but these are the quarter to quarter
05:46 some pressures are there.
05:48 So my suggestion will be to look at this stock
05:50 around 520 levels where it will be shouting by,
05:54 but we'll wait for some more time
05:59 or looking at some more direction.
06:00 Another thing is FIs are also selling this stock
06:03 quarter over quarter.
06:04 So some more selling I'm expecting.
06:07 So 520 is something like I'll watch for.
06:10 - Let's dive into the questions.
06:14 The first one is from Raghuram Patro from Bhubaneswar.
06:17 They're talking about Patel Engineering.
06:19 Now this is also for the longer term.
06:21 They've bought the stock at 55 levels.
06:24 It's slightly up from there.
06:26 It's actually around 70.
06:27 Ashish, Patel Engineering, is this a part of your coverage?
06:31 And for the longer term perspective,
06:32 what would you suggest doing here?
06:34 - A stock which has given very good numbers.
06:39 If you see from last September to December quarter,
06:42 almost 70 crore profit was there
06:45 with a service 38 crore in the responding quarter.
06:47 So company is good.
06:49 Their order book is also quite robust
06:51 and management has also given very bullish outlook
06:56 as far as whatever the sector they are bidding
07:00 for the orders.
07:00 Only thing is that we have seen a stock
07:02 has seen a very robust run up.
07:05 See our stock is already up by 50% in last three months.
07:08 So some amount of profit taking is happening,
07:10 but 65 will be again a good level to reenter the stock.
07:14 My target in 2024 for Patel Engineering
07:18 is a three digit that is 100 rupees.
07:20 - Fair point.
07:21 Next up, we have a question from Mayank Shah.
07:24 Now they're talking about a couple of stocks here.
07:26 So I'm gonna take two out of them.
07:29 We're gonna talk about Automotive Axles
07:31 that he bought at 2,690 rupees
07:35 and Moyle that he bought at 364 levels.
07:38 Now, Osho, I'm gonna come to you on this one
07:41 from a shorter to medium term perspective.
07:44 What kind of levels should you watch out for
07:46 in these two stocks?
07:47 - Very good afternoon.
07:49 Well, coming to Automotive Axle,
07:52 the counter have seen a decent correction.
07:54 It is actually under some kind of pressure
07:57 that we can technically see on the charts.
08:00 It is hovering below all the exponential moving averages.
08:02 So we can expect that the process of correction phase
08:07 should continue in this counter.
08:09 However, on the downside,
08:10 if I have to see the support zone,
08:12 then it comes around the zone of 1900, 1800, 80.
08:16 So this is the zone where we can expect the downside
08:19 to confine on the higher end.
08:21 Again, there is a very strong series of resistances
08:25 starting from 2100 towards 2300.
08:28 So decisive surpass beyond 2300
08:31 could only bring some cheer back in this counter.
08:34 Now, coming to the second counter was Moyle.
08:36 Moyle has seen a very strong upsurge in the recent period.
08:40 And also after the vertical rally,
08:42 it has underwent some kind of profit booking.
08:44 So currently hovering around the zone of 290,
08:47 but still I expect further correction or profit booking
08:51 can be seen in this counter.
08:52 On the downside, on immediate basis,
08:54 280 is the zone where one can expect the counter
08:57 to consolidate.
08:58 And then from there onwards, from medium term timeframe,
09:01 there can be some kind of a trend
09:03 that can be continued in this counter.
09:05 - All right, understood.
09:06 Next up, we have a question from the line of Mr. Ansari.
09:10 Now they're talking about NHPC.
09:11 This is from a very longer term perspective,
09:13 about 10 years play, Ashish.
09:15 They're willing to hold it for 10 years.
09:17 And I'm not sure if they've already bought in the stock
09:20 or they're yet to buy it.
09:22 But from a 10 year perspective, NHPC,
09:24 it's already been a multi bagger in the last year.
09:28 What would you suggest Mr. Ansari to do with this one?
09:31 - As far as NHPC or JVN kind of a stock,
09:37 or any other kind of a stocks are concerned,
09:40 in my view, they will continue to do well.
09:42 Those stocks have appreciated quite a bit,
09:45 but only issue is that quite a bit,
09:49 and that too in very short span of time.
09:51 If you see last even one month,
09:53 30% of the stock has appreciated.
09:56 So some amount of profit taking is bound to happen.
09:58 There's a reason for 115 now,
10:00 the stock is consolidating at 1995 rupees bracket.
10:04 But one thing we must understand
10:06 that the power demand in India will continue to grow.
10:10 Maybe 10% plus demand will continue to grow.
10:14 So a lot of capacity will be added.
10:16 And most of the capacity is being added by,
10:19 not by your private player, but government sector.
10:22 So your NHPCs or SJVN or REC, et cetera,
10:25 will continue to thrive in next 10 years.
10:28 So in my view, there's no brainer.
10:30 If you're bullish on India,
10:31 power sector is one of the best theme to play on.
10:35 - Well, yes, Ashish, you're not the only one
10:38 I've heard this about the power sector
10:41 and how a lot of fund managers also kind of
10:44 remain constructive for the longer term.
10:47 Next up, we're talking about GE Shipping.
10:49 That is Great Eastern Shipping Company.
10:51 This runs from Gita from Mumbai.
10:54 They wanna know if they should buy the stock
10:57 at the current levels,
10:58 or should they wait for some correction in the stock, Osho?
11:02 - See, overall, the logistics companies
11:06 are performing very well.
11:07 They are gaining some kind of traction
11:08 also in the recent period.
11:10 Overall, when I see the technical chart of GE Shipping,
11:13 it has been consolidating near the zone of 1000.
11:16 And again, 1000 being a psychological mark
11:18 can provide some kind of resilience in the short term,
11:21 but overall trend remains positive.
11:23 So one should definitely try to accumulate this counter
11:25 in a staggered manner,
11:26 not 100% capital should be used at current levels,
11:29 but definitely the uptrend
11:31 from medium to long-term perspective,
11:33 the trend is very positive.
11:34 We are expecting an uptrend in this counter
11:36 from medium to long-term.
11:37 So definitely try to accumulate it in a staggered manner.
11:40 Currently, 1000 is the zone.
11:42 The time it breaches the zone of 1000,
11:45 then from there on,
11:46 we can see an upside rally towards 1060 to 1080
11:49 on immediate basis.
11:51 On the downside, 920, 930
11:53 is the strong support zone for this counter.
11:56 - All right, Osho, stay with me,
11:59 and we're gonna talk about AppTech now.
12:01 This one's from Shiv Kumar.
12:02 They bought the stock at 272 levels.
12:05 It's, I think, lower than that level currently.
12:08 What would you suggest doing it from a shorter term,
12:11 and then we'll take a fundamental check on this as well.
12:14 - So this counter has given a technical breakdown
12:17 from the zone of nearly 248, 250 odd levels,
12:21 and currently hovering below that,
12:22 but there has been a strong volatility
12:24 that can be seen in the last two trading weeks.
12:27 So there can be some volatility
12:30 that can be seen even in the coming future,
12:32 but overall trend remains negative.
12:34 From here onwards,
12:35 one can expect the downside to continue
12:37 towards 200 odd levels,
12:39 while on the higher end,
12:40 until it surpasses the zone of 280,
12:43 it's better to stay sidelines.
12:45 - And Ashish, on AppTech,
12:46 would you also suggest staying away from the stock
12:49 for the longer term?
12:51 - Yes, I'm also of the same view.
12:52 This is a stock which is grossly underperformed,
12:55 even worse of the IT play,
12:58 and if we see stock is nearly 50 to be close also.
13:02 Besides this, if we see quarterly numbers also,
13:04 nothing great is happening with the company,
13:06 very static or declining set of numbers.
13:09 So in my view,
13:11 we investors should exit from this stock,
13:14 and instead of this,
13:15 I look at some more promising stocks like KPIT Technologies
13:19 or L&T Technologies,
13:21 which can give you much better results.
13:24 - Understood.
13:25 Next up, this one's from Ramesh,
13:27 and we're talking about Sulavinyas.
13:29 They've bought in the shares at 466 levels.
13:32 It's considerably higher from that,
13:34 but they wish to accumulate this counter.
13:38 Osho, what levels would you suggest buying at?
13:42 - See, overall, this counter
13:44 have seen a very strong resurgence
13:46 from the zone of 500 odd levels,
13:48 and then from there onwards,
13:49 we have seen the highs of 680.
13:51 Currently hovering in the consolidation zone,
13:53 not have turned into a negative zone as of now,
13:56 but definitely time-wise correction
13:58 is there in this counter,
13:59 and one can expect this time-wise correction to continue,
14:02 which should be acting as a very positive development
14:05 on technical front.
14:06 Overall, counter is very positive,
14:08 and one should definitely stay intact
14:10 with their investment from medium to long-term perspective.
14:13 For shorter-term duration, 660 is the resistance zone,
14:17 and on the downside, 580 should be acting
14:20 as the support zone.
14:21 So it should be hovering within the range.
14:23 The time we witness a breakthrough from the range,
14:26 we can witness another set of rally in this counter.
14:29 - All right.
14:30 Next up, we're talking about PTM now.
14:32 This one's from Sanjay,
14:33 but we have multiple viewers
14:35 who have been asking this question
14:38 from the last couple of days.
14:40 Ashish, Sanjay has bought the shares at 903 levels,
14:44 but we have viewers who bought it at the time of IPO as well.
14:48 They want to know if they should exit the stock,
14:50 book losses, and move on,
14:53 because there's a lot of uncertainty around the stock
14:56 after the RBI action on this.
14:58 - Yes.
15:00 So in my view, this is still not a good time
15:04 to buy PTM stock.
15:07 The stock is at 50 to week low today also,
15:09 and showing some consolidation,
15:11 but retail investors are the only ones
15:14 which are buying the stock at every level.
15:17 One thing we must be clear that
15:19 if PTM payment bank is not there,
15:21 the entire business model of PTM will be at a toss,
15:26 because their major business was that wallet business,
15:29 and that was linked primarily with PTM payment bank.
15:32 So if they will use any other bank,
15:34 so whatever the charges they were giving to PTM payment bank
15:37 will be taken by other banks,
15:40 and this will be used and for PTM.
15:42 So there's a reason I'm not that bullish on PTM,
15:46 I'll say, and in my view,
15:50 only once this company is sold to anyone
15:53 or this PTM payment bank is sold to anyone,
15:55 then only we'll see some upside,
15:58 but there is long shot.
16:00 So my position is still to avoid this.
16:03 - All right, fair point.
16:05 This, before we move on, we'll slip into a short break,
16:09 and we'll take a whole lot of questions on the other side.
16:13 Stay tuned.
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18:56 - Welcome back.
19:03 You're watching Ask Prophet.
19:05 And if you already haven't written to us,
19:07 you can write to us on any of our social media channels
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19:12 or through the YouTube live chat.
19:14 But let's quickly dive into the questions again.
19:17 This one's from Prasad Deshpande,
19:19 and they're talking about Jindal Stainless.
19:20 They've already bought the stock at 631 or thereabouts.
19:25 He wants to know if he should continue holding onto it.
19:29 Osho, from the charts,
19:30 would you suggest selling at this point?
19:33 - See, basically, Jindal Stainless has been hovering
19:37 in the higher highs, higher lows pattern.
19:38 So there is no downtrend or correction
19:40 that is being seen in this counter as of now.
19:43 So one should definitely stay intact with their investment.
19:46 Even at current levels,
19:47 we have seen a V-ship recovery in this counter.
19:50 So any breach above the zone of 640
19:53 can provide a strong thrust in this counter,
19:55 and one can expect the immediate target
19:57 should be approximately 650.
19:59 But from there onwards on medium-term perspective,
20:02 we can even set the target around 680 to 700.
20:05 - Fair point.
20:06 Next up, this one's from Viju Phillips.
20:09 They're talking about SBI.
20:11 They wanna hold the stock for three years.
20:14 Ashish, we've already seen a major buying,
20:18 a spur of buying in SBI in the last couple of days.
20:22 Would you suggest entering SBI,
20:23 or is there an alternate stock from a three-year perspective
20:27 that you would suggest, Viju, to enter as of now?
20:30 - After three years of underperformance,
20:35 now SBI has started moving.
20:37 So the stock has already touched 52 weeks high,
20:40 and now some buying is happening
20:42 because there's a big valuation gap
20:44 between SBI and the PR set also.
20:46 Forget about private sector,
20:47 even their PSU, PS set also have moved so much,
20:51 and if we see SBI, hardly that much momentum is there,
20:56 because if you compare with the PNVs and UBs or IUBs,
21:01 SBI has not actually given that much time.
21:04 So I think our time is coming to look at SBI also.
21:07 And if you're having three-year timeframe,
21:09 my target for stock is in four digits.
21:12 - All right.
21:15 In four digits, okay.
21:17 And would you like to specify what the number is, Ashish?
21:20 - At least 1,000 to 1,100, you can expect,
21:23 because SBI doesn't fall also much.
21:27 So appreciation will be gradual,
21:28 but this is better than putting your money
21:30 into FD of SBI, better to buy their stock.
21:33 - Fair point.
21:35 Next up, we have a question from Pratik,
21:37 and they're talking about TRF.
21:39 They've already bought the stock at 360 levels.
21:43 Stock is considerably higher from there,
21:46 but we're seeing the stock down 5% in trade today.
21:50 And if you look at the last five sessions as well,
21:53 it was down about 8% in trade.
21:55 Osho, is this some kind of a start
21:58 to the downtrend for the stock?
22:00 - See, this counter will be very difficult
22:03 to tell on the technical front,
22:05 because we are witnessing a strong circuit moves
22:08 in this counter from the past two weeks,
22:10 from the zone of 268, went towards 500 odd levels,
22:13 and from there on, we are witnessing
22:15 a circuit on the lower level.
22:17 So it is not very much positive for a technical parameter,
22:21 because that can be a strong speculation
22:24 that can be seen in this counter.
22:25 So I will try to avoid this question as of now,
22:27 because I have no clue on the technical front,
22:29 but looking at the overall sentiments
22:31 and overall duration in the last one year,
22:35 there has been some significant up move.
22:37 So it looks positive from a longer term duration,
22:40 but the volatility is very high in this count.
22:42 - Okay, apologies, there was,
22:45 they've bought 360 shares at a price of 300,
22:49 and not the other way around.
22:50 Ashish, I'm gonna come to you
22:53 on the fundamentals on this one.
22:55 There was some news flow around this stock,
22:58 about, they're not gonna merge with the Tata group,
23:02 Tata Steel, I'm guessing that, yeah.
23:05 So Tata Steel, they have called off the merger
23:08 on that front.
23:09 But from a longer term perspective,
23:11 would you suggest holding on to this one?
23:14 - Yes, I think longer term perspective,
23:18 somebody having, then can continue to hold,
23:22 because if you see the last year performance,
23:24 they did almost 80 crore plus profit,
23:27 and a company with less than 500 crore market cap
23:30 doing this much profit is good.
23:32 But you see appreciation also in last few months,
23:36 stock has just rocketed.
23:38 And there's a reason some consolidation is happening,
23:41 but it's good, in my view,
23:43 350, 360 levels will be again a good time
23:46 to reenter into the stock.
23:47 - Okay, understood.
23:49 Next up, we have a question from Pankaj,
23:51 and they're talking about Navin and Vinti Organics.
23:56 Chemical space, Ashish, from a longer term perspective,
24:01 what would you suggest doing?
24:02 We've already seen headwinds in this stock,
24:05 there is some pressure there.
24:06 But from a longer term perspective,
24:08 do you think the tide will turn?
24:10 - If we see the stock size,
24:15 Vinti Organics and Navin Florin,
24:17 for quite some time they're into very narrow range.
24:20 We see Vinti from 1600 to 2000 rupees is their bracket,
24:25 same Navin Florin also.
24:27 Because whatever the major upside was there,
24:30 which was on account of low supply from China
24:36 or robust domestic demand,
24:39 all are captured in the prices in the last few years.
24:42 These stocks have given phenomenal returns also.
24:45 So now market is not that excited
24:48 whenever their number comes,
24:49 and so this emerging sector,
24:52 there are some other emerging sectors
24:54 where market is more keen or investors are more keen.
24:56 So in my view, this is a sector which can be avoided
25:00 instead of this pharma or your renewables or defense,
25:05 they hold more potential.
25:07 - Understood.
25:08 Next up we have a question from Hemanta Bhattu
25:11 from Vijaywada.
25:12 They're talking about Bosch Futures, Osho.
25:14 They've bought with a strike of,
25:17 no, I think it's 28,000 today,
25:19 and they've bought it for this month,
25:22 by the end of this month.
25:23 How are you seeing this playing out till expiry?
25:27 - See, Bosch has seen a very drastic move in the whole week.
25:33 The counter has already seen approximately 11%
25:36 of upside movement in this week only.
25:39 And from here onwards,
25:39 the continuation of uptrend is likely to continue.
25:44 But overall, one should try to book their profits also
25:47 because we have seen a drastic vertical up move
25:50 from the zone of 23,500 towards 28,000 zone.
25:54 So definitely keep a strict stop loss of 27,900
25:58 on the spot levels.
25:59 And from there onwards,
26:00 you can continue holding this counter
26:02 for the current contract month.
26:04 But overall, the trend has already been there in the market
26:08 and we can witness some kind of consolidation
26:10 or profit booking in the coming time.
26:12 - Okay, understood.
26:13 Next up, we have a question from Sabya Sachi from Kolkata.
26:17 Now, they say they're a long-term investor
26:19 and they're into a lot of, sorry, PSU stocks,
26:24 like IOC, Gale, PFC, REC.
26:27 Now, they say that should they kind of take some money
26:31 off the table, Ashish, I'll come to you on this.
26:34 We've seen a rally happening in PSU stocks,
26:38 but let's take four stocks for focus.
26:40 IOC, Gale, PFC, and REC.
26:42 So two past stocks in IOC and Gale apart from that.
26:45 How would you suggest for a longer term investor
26:49 to do right now?
26:50 Should they maybe book some profits
26:52 and kind of keep their capital intact in,
26:56 take the profits out?
26:58 How would you suggest a long-term investor to play this?
27:01 - There are two, three things
27:03 that any investor need to understand.
27:05 First, all PSUs are having their own individual stories.
27:10 So there's not something like whatever is applying
27:12 for BPCL will apply to ITI also.
27:15 Because the fundamentals are quite different.
27:17 And in short term, all can move together,
27:20 but over a period of time,
27:21 it's only the fundamentals of individual company
27:23 which will determine which stock will go up
27:26 and which stock will not.
27:28 So you are having these three, four stocks
27:32 which have given excellent returns.
27:34 But one thing we must understand,
27:36 another thing that whatever the capex is happening
27:39 in India, the majority of capex is coming in PSU companies.
27:44 And this is the reason why smart investor,
27:48 intelligent investors are accumulating
27:50 more and more PSUs.
27:51 Because growth is going to come.
27:53 So take example of REC.
27:55 This REC is going to be nodal agency
27:57 for Prime Minister, Solar Mission, et cetera also.
28:00 So these stocks will continue to do well.
28:03 There's a secular long-term bull run stories
28:06 in a few of these stocks.
28:09 - Okay, understood.
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28:16 for joining in and for answering so many questions for us.
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