It was reported that former Chargers head coach Brandon Staley could be the 49ers new defensive coordinator, but they should steer clear of him.
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00:00 Apparently people around the league wouldn't be shocked if Brandon Staley were the next
00:06 defensive coordinator for the 49ers.
00:08 What are you hearing on this front, Jose?
00:11 Florio, man, no, don't do that.
00:15 I mean, look, I'll say this.
00:17 I was listening a little bit of Guy Haberman's points about like they share.
00:20 No, no, John Middlecourt, excuse me.
00:21 They share the same agent, I think, Kyle Shanahan and Brandon Staley.
00:24 So I guess that would make sense first and foremost, right?
00:27 You know, his agent is going to be like, hey, Kyle, I saw you fired your coach.
00:29 Like, what's up?
00:30 Like, here's another guy who's pretty much like your step, like your stepbrother in terms
00:34 of the football world because I'm both your guys' agent.
00:38 But no, after you do your little like, your little, you know, appropriateness of like,
00:42 oh, I'll see what's up to him.
00:44 Don't, no.
00:45 Keep him far away.
00:47 I understand that he was an excellent defensive coordinator on like the stats wise that 2020
00:52 COVID year, like his stats go like they were top three in sacks, top three in rushing yards
00:56 per game, top three in passing yards per game, scoring defense.
00:58 Like that defense had it all.
00:59 That was a great defense, but that was one year.
01:02 And then we got to see how it worked as a head coach, calling the plays for the Chargers.
01:06 You know, it'd be one thing if he wasn't calling the plays, he was calling the plays and with
01:09 a probably arguably the same, if not more stacked roster and everything was just completely
01:13 bad.
01:14 And my thing about him is what's one thing that the 49ers defense loves, like they, they
01:19 take pride in their leaders, right?
01:20 Their culture.
01:21 And that's something you definitely do not ever, ever saw at one point with the Chargers
01:24 under Brian Staley, failing, failing to be held himself accountable, failing to do so
01:28 many things as a leader and his team never could buy in.
01:31 So no, keep him far hell away from this team.
01:33 He's the last person you want to hire.
01:35 I'd rather bring Steve Wilks back than have him be the guy.
01:38 Yeah.
01:39 I mean, what he has experienced in the NFC West, but he was just a defensive court to
01:44 your point.
01:45 He was a defensive coordinator for one year, 2020 before then he was man, his, his ascent
01:53 is crazy, man.
01:54 He was just hanging around.
01:55 Let me go through.
01:56 I'm going to start on Wikipedia real quick.
01:57 He was just hanging around in college.
01:58 He was at John Carroll, James Madison, went back to John Carroll was the defensive coordinator
02:04 at John Carroll.
02:05 I don't even know where that is.
02:07 Somehow Vic Fangio discovered him, brought him to the bears as an outside linebackers
02:11 coach brought him to Denver as an outside linebackers coach.
02:16 And just the association with Fangio gets him a DC job at the Rams.
02:19 He's there for one year, does a good job.
02:21 And then he's a head coach.
02:22 Like, wow, that happened fast, fast, little experience, little, very little.
02:29 And when you, when you look at the foreigners roster, does it look like they're, I mean,
02:33 excuse me, their coaches has it ever looked like even when Shannon first took over their,
02:36 their team that really, cause Shannon's a guy that really looks for that very minimal
02:39 experience.
02:40 No, like I know he get, I get, he gave D'Amico Ryan's essentially his first gig, but that's
02:44 a firm former player, a high level player at that someone that I think he kind of had
02:48 experience with in Houston.
02:49 So this guy would just be like, other than the fact you have that coaches, I mean, excuse
02:52 me, that agents relations it's no, it's just, it just makes no sense right now.
02:57 There's a reason why he's still available right now.
02:59 Right?
03:00 There was, there's been plenty of defensive corner spots that he could have been plucked
03:02 from, but no one's really tapping his shoulder.
03:05 Look, I don't have strong feelings about Brandon Staley.
03:08 I know he did a great job.
03:09 His one year at the Rams.
03:12 I know he's got Vic Fangio and John Fox in his corner and those are two coaches I respect.
03:18 So I don't, I don't know, but my question, I also respect Steve Wilkes is where I'm coming
03:21 from.
03:22 And my question with Brandon Staley is why would he be better than Wilkes?
03:28 Because the issue with the Niner said is, Hey, nothing against him as a man or as a
03:31 mind, it was a bad fit.
03:33 He didn't know what we want to do.
03:35 Why is Staley different?
03:37 Staley runs a five man front.
03:39 Staley does his own thing.
03:40 I mean, he's, he's from the Vic Fangio tree, not the Robert Sala Pete Carroll tree.
03:45 So wouldn't you be doing the same exact thing, bringing an outsider?
03:48 No one knows him, asking him to run a scheme.
03:50 He doesn't run.
03:52 Or are you going to ask the entire defense to run a three, four now?
03:55 Is that what you're going to do for Brandon Staley?
03:56 Is that what you're going to do?
03:58 I don't think so.
03:59 So look, I don't like the Brandon Staley thing.
04:01 I think it's a bad fit for him.
04:03 I think it's a bad fit for the Niners.
04:05 Can you tell us about Daniel Bullocks?
04:06 Cause he seems like the guy, like the next man up inside the organization.
04:11 Yeah, I would love for him.
04:13 If you're going to internal, you got to go him, which is kind of funny because I know
04:16 Kyle Shanahan said a little bit about that disconnect with the defense because Wilkes
04:20 does have that defensive back background.
04:22 I'm going to call cap on that.
04:24 It's like, okay, look, I can understand to a degree, but I think from the moment me and
04:28 you were talking after I like relate to you, like my sense of interviewing the players
04:31 is the reason why I believe Bullocks is a good fit is because his, his mind and the
04:35 way the players support him from the moment it seemed pretty obvious over time is Steve
04:40 Wilkes was kind of viewed as an outsider.
04:42 I think me and you kind of felt that way.
04:43 Like, dude, is he kind of like get look at the outsider and I like to hate him or dislike
04:46 him, but it's like, look, man, you're coming in, stepping into this championship caliber
04:50 defense.
04:51 You got to do things our way because you don't really have a good resume on your hand anyways.
04:55 Right.
04:56 Wilkes didn't.
04:57 And look, I advocated for Wilkes last year saying, I think it'd be a good fit.
04:59 I think I was on the street coaching experience, but his DC experience wasn't overwhelming.
05:04 It's just, it's just very, there's a reason why it looks for the last like five years,
05:07 six years has really been like one and done everywhere, whether it's Missouri, whether
05:11 it's Arizona, whether it's Carolina, whether wherever he's been.
05:14 Right.
05:15 So not saying like he's a terrible person or anything, terrible coach, but like, there's
05:18 a reason why, like there's just some reason why he can never find a fit.
05:21 And here it was always hard.
05:22 Now you have a guy on your own ranks that you could bring up.
05:25 That's been with you since 2017.
05:27 And look, Tashaun Gibson had the most to rave about Daniel Bullocks when I asked him about,
05:32 Hey, Tashaun, what can you say about Daniel Bullocks that he's done to your growth to,
05:36 you know, players like Hufanga yourself, Charvarius Ward, Lenore.
05:40 And he said, look, DB doesn't get enough credit.
05:42 I would not be here without, if he was not here.
05:46 And that he's literally a Kyle Shanahan guy where you can go talk about family.
05:50 And then it literally out of the middle of nowhere, just be like, so what about cover
05:53 two?
05:54 It's like, what, whoa, what?
05:55 So there's a reason why Kyle Shanahan brought him on.
05:57 He's been there since 2017.
05:58 And before that, I think he had like about four, five years of experience with Jacksonville
06:01 as assistants, DB coach, assistancy, all these things.
06:04 He's slowly working up the totem pole, the hierarchy of coaching.
06:08 And it just feels like at this point, he has like a solid eight to nine years of experience
06:11 and just the intellect he has, you know, and there's a lot, like I said, there's a lot
06:14 of players on his resume that he's really groomed and such.
06:17 I'll say this too.
06:18 The reason why I also like him, I tried to get players or at least the Traverse Ward
06:23 off the top of my head.
06:24 I tried to get Traverse Ward, like, Hey, in the OTAs, you mentioned, you mentioned, you
06:28 hope Steve Wilks defensive back background can be a guy that gets you to all pro.
06:32 He's never been all pro.
06:33 He's mentioned that.
06:34 He's like, Oh yeah, I would love, I hope he can get me there.
06:36 And I asked him on that media night about, Hey, like you finally had your all pro, all
06:40 pro year.
06:41 You cited Wilks.
06:42 Like, what can you say about him that got you there?
06:44 And he's like, Oh yeah, putting me in position.
06:46 But then he, but then afterwards he literally, after he says he put him in position the whole
06:50 time, he's saying like, Oh, I think it's more so because of me though.
06:52 Like, and I'm kind of, I'm kind of, I'm kind of paraphrasing here.
06:56 He's like, it's pretty much because of me.
06:57 If I put my head into it, if I lock in, if I'm the one that digs in, I know I can, I
07:01 can always done it.
07:02 So I think the difference is was with me.
07:03 And it's like, Whoa, that's kind of a little bit of different tune from OTAs.
07:05 You know, not saying like, you know, he's poopooing Wilks so much, but it's like pretty
07:09 much like, look like cool.
07:10 Wilks was there, but that was all because of me, baby.
07:13 All because of all pros.
07:14 So it was like, the players are saying that you got Nick Bosa after the game, we weren't
07:16 prepared because of Wilks.
07:17 You got them, you got him at what I think Bosa also said week seven.
07:21 Like yeah, I think he's not adjusting to us yet.
07:23 Like when these, when your top caliber players are saying that, that was done.
07:27 So I don't think they would say that.
07:28 They never bought in.
07:29 They would be more patient.
07:30 They never bought in.
07:31 Wilks was screwed.
07:32 He never bought in.
07:33 That's why I don't think you bring in Staley.
07:34 He's another outsider that the players could turn on.
07:37 I mean, everyone liked Wilks when they were five and oh, right.
07:39 They lose a couple of games and it's like, what are you doing?
07:42 Get out of the booth.
07:43 Why?
07:44 Like, that's not how we do it here.
07:46 So I mean, they could do that to anyone.
07:48 It's a very powerful, highly paid defense.
07:52 Seems like they like Bullocks.
07:53 Seems like they'd be bought into him.
07:56 I think that's what the direction they're going to go.
07:58 That's my best guess.
07:59 I just think they'd be scared.
08:00 Kyle would be scared because that same, that DB type of situation versus linebacker that,
08:05 you know, it does kind of play a little bit of a factor, but I think at that point it's
08:08 like, Hey, look, the difference between that is at least like Daniel Bullocks has rose
08:11 up and he's been around these guys since you've been a head coach.
08:15 Yeah.
08:16 I mean, he was in Jacksonville with Robert Sala.
08:17 He, yeah, you're right.
08:18 He was with Jacksonville with Robert Sala.
08:20 Like he has that.
08:21 It's part of the culture that they built.
08:23 Steve was, wasn't he played safety?
08:26 Him?
08:27 Yeah.
08:28 Yeah.
08:29 Yeah.
08:30 Yeah.
08:31 Yeah.
08:32 Yeah.
08:33 Yeah.
08:34 All right.
08:35 So we'll see.
08:36 I still think Daniel Bullocks is the favorite.
08:37 I wish there would be a prop bet you could bet on this one.
08:38 Cause I'm not sure who else it would look internally.
08:39 Right?
08:40 Like, cause Eric, I think if Xeric would have had it by now, it seems he's very Johnny
08:41 Holland, but I doesn't seem like they look at him that way for, I don't, I don't know
08:45 why does he even want it?
08:46 Like that's the thing too.
08:47 Like, like to me, like you can also say the same thing as Bullocks want it.
08:50 And in my head, it's like, no, I see to me, hold on to me with cause Eric, the reason
08:55 he doesn't want it.
08:56 My best guess is he's already making seven figures coaching the D line.
08:59 Like I don't know that Johnny Holland is making seven figures coaching linebackers.
09:04 And I think it'd be a huge race.
09:06 Yeah, dude.
09:07 I'm very, yes.
09:08 I remember last year someone asked Bobby Turner during a off season.
09:14 Hey man, are you kind of like Chris Kisarek?
09:16 Like he just doesn't want to be a coordinator.
09:18 He just, he just wants to be a D line coach.
09:20 Are you like that too?
09:21 Kind of like leading in that direction.
09:22 And Bobby was like, no, I, I would have loved to be a offensive coordinator or a head coach,
09:28 but the owners just never saw me fit to do that.
09:29 I was like, oh wow.
09:32 Wow.
09:33 So you never assume what people want to do.
09:36 And it is, I feel like a lot of times not to get racial here, but African-American older
09:43 coaches get pigeonholed as, Hey, this guy knows one thing.
09:46 He can possibly be, you know, on the fast track to being a coordinator, a head coach
09:50 like this smart guy over here.
09:52 And I'm not, I mean, D'Amico Rhynes was fast track.
09:54 Rosalio was fast track, but sometimes there's these long time position coaches who never
09:58 gets who gets stuck pigeonholed.
10:00 I wonder if Johnny Holland has aspirations for more.
10:02 He's been so successful as a, as a, as a position coach.
10:06 Like why not?
10:07 I hope he gets the hesitation from Kyle is also like, maybe in his head is like, I wouldn't
10:13 mind him mind these guys being elevated, but I just love you so much where you're at.
10:16 Like in the sense of Kisarek, you move Kisarek to defensive coordinator.
10:20 He's not hands-on with those defensive linemen anymore.
10:21 Right.
10:22 Not nearly as much.
10:23 And whoever you're going to fill in there.
10:24 Like, what if you don't get that same little, that same little push, those roundabout developments
10:28 that you've been able to do Kisarek and considering Kyle loves the trenches or mostly the defensive
10:33 line part, right.
10:35 Maybe he just wants to keep them there.
10:36 Maybe he's just like certain guys.
10:37 There's like, I just like you guys there.
10:39 It's not saying so much that you can do a different job, but I just love you guys so
10:42 much there.
10:43 Right.
10:44 Like, could they replace, could they replace Bobby Turner as the running backs coach?
10:47 Clearly not.
10:48 Could they replace Johnny Holland as the linebackers coach?
10:50 He's done such a good job developing those superstars.
10:52 The reason why they're still there, right.
10:54 For all these years, look at the coaches that have gone.
10:56 DB coaches have gone like Joe Woods.
10:58 I think another DB coach, the quarterbacks coaches have been gone.
11:01 Tight ends coach, wide receiver coaches.
11:03 Those are the ones that are always a revolving door.
11:06 Never defensive line, not linebacker, not running backs.
11:09 Right.
11:10 Yep.
11:10 Yep.