Analyzing whether San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan is too controlling.
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00:00 Kyle Shanahan to controlling over the roster and the defensive and the the defense in general and who the defensive coordinator is gonna be
00:07 And what he does? I mean, he's kind of like
00:10 The dictator of this tease the Emperor of Santa Clara. His dad was the Emperor of Denver and then Washington. I
00:17 Would say yeah, what do you think?
00:20 I would I would say and when I mean by he's controlling over the roster, right when you have a coach who?
00:25 Falls in love with the player that he watches on film after the season, right?
00:29 The you have scouts and you have your executives doing the work
00:32 They're not the entirety of the season and I just doing it after the season and trying to pin
00:36 Guy that they love Kyle find someone he loves and says, you know what?
00:40 I need to take this guy in the second or third round. That's how I
00:42 Study the draft. I started I turn on the tape now and I develop crushes on players really quickly
00:48 but these people have these scouts have known these players since they're freshmen and
00:53 You don't say like anyway, sorry to cut you off. But yeah, I just want to say something
00:56 I have in common with Kyle how we scout players you're good. So like for me, I'm looking at I'm like you can't do that
01:02 That's where he becomes who controlling and that's where you have a lot of players to be mrs
01:06 Cameron law to you like the all the offense Kyle has a lot of say in the draft people tend to think he doesn't he has
01:12 A lot of say in what he was drafting for an audience
01:15 Thanks, Ray. Mm-hmm
01:17 So when you look at that like for me
01:18 I think that's a huge concern because you're not like one you're not letting your your scouts and your executives do their job the right way
01:25 So for me, I think really what was the Danny Gray story wasn't it Kyle was in Cabo and he ran into Sonny Dykes
01:31 Who's the coach at SMU?
01:34 SMU and he was like hey
01:36 Danny Gray is really good and cause like word as any gray was sunny Dykes was like word and he drafted it Danny Gray
01:42 Isn't that the story? You got a tip at a buffet from sunny Dykes. I'm just saying that's a story
01:49 That's crazy
01:51 That is so like exactly right like you you fall in love with a player just because someone tells you he's good
01:56 You end up drafting them and then when you during free agency offseason
02:00 Your team doesn't really offense really doesn't get much better because you already drafted good players
02:04 You don't evolve as an offense. You don't add any new little tricks and in stuff like that
02:10 You like to tell your defense coordinator. You cannot do this on defense. You can't do this
02:15 This is what you're gonna run you hired a corner and tell him hey, you know what see books
02:18 You've never ran this defense, but you got to run this wide nine cover threes zone skiing
02:24 That's right. He'll tell you that's how you do it. That's Nick. Also. He'll got you got you
02:28 Oh, you like to coach in the box. Guess what come down here. Guess what?
02:31 I want to see you and I want to tell you no, you can't run cover zero
02:35 Yeah, when you're trying to run cover zero, all right
02:37 So for me, I think it's too controlling like you can't really look at him
02:41 And then we give them all the credit when they're succeeding and though they're doing great
02:45 But then when the Niners start losing or whether they're not playing well
02:47 What you said was great. What the way the Niners
02:51 Presented the move of Steve Wilkes was like oh, it's a communication thing
02:56 We just wanted to be able to communicate with the players
02:57 You're saying this was a Kyle control thing
02:59 Like no, I need to be able to look you in the eye and tell you know when you call something
03:04 I don't want I mean that does make sense. He did do that a few times including Super Bowl
03:07 Yeah, I think I personally think it was more so Kyle wanting to look at him down this line with his headset
03:12 You know how Kyle does down the headset and say you do like truly and excuse my language
03:16 that's literally how I see Kyle later like
03:18 Like I want to make eye-to-eye contact instead of looking up to the booth where I can't see right where I can make eye contact
03:24 I'm like, hey get you get your stuff together
03:26 Your defense is being terrible right now. My offense is great. Even though I can't score more than 20 points in the Super Bowl
03:32 It's your fault
03:33 That's how I thought controlling I think he is and to be honest like it's for example
03:38 You're so such a great offense of mine that you think you don't need to invest in the offensive line because you could scheme around it
03:45 He said that he said that personally when he said we're fine with Coleman Kivitz because you could scheme around stuff like that
03:51 Well, obviously you can't
03:53 That's controlling
03:56 So the question to me is why is Kyle so controlling how controlling is he I don't think
04:02 I don't think people realize how he has his hand in literally everything in the organization
04:07 I think his dad was the same way in Denver. I mean we've heard that he's
04:10 He's like in he's in a office like Scarface
04:14 I mean not just like Scarface but kind of like Scarface with a lot of TVs and
04:18 He can tap into every meeting and not just listen, but like talk be like nah, it's like this
04:24 That's incredibly controlling and the Niners like it because they have to they work for him. But um,
04:31 man
04:32 Why is he like this and is it a good thing? It doesn't seem like Andy Reid is like this
04:36 That was an interesting story, I mean when you hear you know, the surveillance thing that was intriguing
04:42 I do think you know it I mean it brings a
04:45 Completely different realm because you just don't think that that's something that goes on in the locker room
04:50 Sure, it's a way to hold him accountable and things like that. I do think Shanahan is controlling
04:54 I will say this and I'm curious to hear what you think Grant, but on the defensive coordinator spot
04:59 I personally don't think how Shanahan wants to be as controlling as he was this past year
05:04 I think that's his ultimate goal. I think with Robert Sala and D'Amico Ryan's especially as they progress as defensive coordinators
05:11 There was a balance where he allowed them to kind of go into their range when you wanted to call one of those exotic
05:16 Blitzes where it's kind of like a boomer bust type of play
05:19 He let them do that you see different times and you know, they were accountable the defensive coordinators for their mistakes
05:25 But I think also there was a level of trust there that really never grew with Steve Wilkes
05:31 Just given the disconnect between him and Shanahan's philosophies and him and the players with the way that they wanted to run their you know
05:38 Their held at scheme
05:39 So I think the goal for Kyle Shanahan will be I want a defensive coordinator who I can trust and who can really you know
05:47 Do what I want to do, but I'm not gonna hold I'm not gonna hold them back
05:52 unfortunately right now and this is something when you talk about the defensive coordinator talk is
05:56 Usually what you need for those guys are experienced guys who are proven who can lead or who can have some
06:01 Some sort of energy if you're hiring some from someone from internally
06:06 There's nobody in that room right now with the real play calling experience as a defensive coordinator
06:10 I think that there are a lot of intriguing candidates, but there's nobody with play calling experience now
06:15 I don't think that's as important
06:17 I don't because the last two coordinators never had play calling experience either
06:21 but in a year where it's
06:23 extremely crucial that you hit on this defensive coordinator hire because in my opinion this window is really like what this core is really just
06:30 This next upcoming season puts increased amount of pressure and you wonder is there going to be more?
06:35 Involvement from Shanahan on the defensive side knowing how crucial this upcoming year is
06:39 Is it my turn to talk again I keep forgetting
06:45 Yeah, you could tell me Marco did go first. I don't understand why he's like this
06:50 I mean, it seems like
06:51 He's here in year eight. You should be delegating you should have
06:54 You should be doing less at this point. You should be much more of a head coach than you were early on
07:02 We understood when you came over like hey
07:04 I'm just gonna sort of stay in my comfort zone and call the plays and be an OC and sort of have
07:08 Robert Sala who takes care of that side of the team will work it out. But now it's like you're right
07:13 Why can't you be more like Andy Reid? He's the gold standard
07:16 he's not
07:18 Super anal and controlling like you are at least doesn't seem like it seems like he empowers his players and
07:23 He beats you in the Super Bowl. So why don't you try to be a little bit?
07:27 Why don't I mean that's my thing with Kyle
07:30 Is this a character flaw or is he gonna grow out of this or is this just who he is?
07:34 I it might be who his dad was
07:36 And was crazy about his dad in Denver. He had that success early. He didn't lose a Super Bowl like Kyle
07:41 he went to the Super Bowl won him and then got more and more power in that organization and
07:46 a lot of people say
07:48 Mike the GM got Mike the head coach fired. He was one of the original guys who wanted the
07:52 To buy the groceries if he was gonna prepare the dinner that kind of stuff
07:56 He got all the power in Denver and it wasn't great
07:58 Kyle's always had all the power in the Niners and when people say hey, you know, maybe he's the next Andy Reid
08:04 Maybe that's true
08:05 Maybe he needs to leave and go to an organization where he doesn't have ultimate power and he has to work within a structure
08:10 of a front office that's
08:13 Accomplish something maybe won a Super Bowl. Maybe that'd be the best thing for Kyle
08:16 I don't know because on this team with Jed York run of the run in the show
08:20 It's always gonna be calm running the show you could argue. He's always gonna have too much power here
08:24 How you gonna take it away when you've given it to him day one and that's the issues
08:28 He was given this power day one, right? Like you obviously this is something when
08:32 You grow up in in a football family
08:35 You're the head coach his son you get an office quarter to dinner job a lot earlier than most you 29 29
08:43 Him and his dad where he was letting his son Mike was letting Kyle draft players in Washington
08:49 He can't selected Trent, right?
08:51 So this power starts building up on you starts becoming an ego thing in my opinion
08:55 I think I truly think Kyle needs to look at himself in the mirror right now and say hey look, you know what?
09:00 I need a higher an offensive coordinator higher defense coordinator. I trust
09:03 Let me have someone where I don't have to be in all the meeting rooms. I could trust my coaches
09:09 Because you're never gonna get veteran coaches who want to come coach with you if you're a big brother constantly watching true
09:15 Good point good point. No wonder you have all these
09:18 Position coaches who are pretty young because man you are right over their shoulder
09:24 You
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