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Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky Ep. 418  Mark Divver of the New England Hockey Journal joins Evan on the show today to discuss the approaching trade deadline, and give his thoughts on what the Bruins might do to improve their roster while navigating their very limited cap space.    Topics:  - Bruins held onto a lead!  - The good and the bad were on display against Vegas  - Evan has a new take of what the front office might do  - How have Divver’s deadline views changed?  - Noah Hanifin  - The future of Jake DeBrusk  - What a rebuild might look like    This episode is brought to you by PrizePicks! Get in on the excitement with PrizePicks, America’s No. 1 Fantasy Sports App, where you can turn your hoops knowledge into serious cash. Download the app today and use code CLNS for a first deposit match up to $100! Pick more. Pick less. It’s that Easy! Football season may be over, but the action on the floor is heating up. Whether it’s Tournament Season or the fight for playoff homecourt, there’s no shortage of high stakes basketball moments this time of year. Quick withdrawals, easy gameplay and an enormous selection of players and stat types are what make PrizePicks the #1 daily fantasy sports app!    This episode is also brought to you by HelloFresh. Go to HelloFresh.com/50bruins and use code 50bruins for 50% off plus free shipping!

Transcript

00:00 I gotta say though that I did at the Providence Merrimack game last night, there were a lot of

00:05 pro scouts and front office guys there and one of them I talked to, a very knowledgeable guy,

00:12 suggested that Noah Hannafin's close friendship with Charlie Coyle

00:20 is going to be, could be a factor in what happens.

00:34 And welcome into the Bruins Beat on CLNS Media powered by PrizePix. My name's Evan Maranofsky

00:40 alongside the great Mark Diver. Div, what is up?

00:44 Nothing much, nothing much. Another weekend of hockey here.

00:50 A lot of it. A lot of it. Yeah. Yeah.

00:52 We were just talking off camera. And so for people who don't know, this weekend,

00:59 this week is the prep playoffs and it's a sprint. It's funny. I wish it was a little longer

01:04 because you could kind of get more content out of it. It'd be a little more relaxed,

01:09 but it's one week, Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday, with Sunday, the championships for prep being

01:15 held at Harvard, which is awesome. Nearby and everything. So I think you'll be there and I'll

01:20 definitely be there. So we'll talk about the Bruins trade deadline as the action's happening in front

01:27 of us. Yeah.

01:31 So it should be good. Sorry, I was distracted for a second.

01:34 You're getting a text from a source. You're going to break the news right now.

01:38 I was. You're breaking the news.

01:39 You're breaking the news right now. So that's valid. That's valid.

01:44 Anyways, something big happened on Thursday night. I don't know if you saw this. The Bruins finally

01:49 held onto a lead. They didn't go to overtime. They almost they did blow the lead. People forget

01:54 they were already nothing. They did blow the lead that that happened. But they pulled out a five,

02:00 four win over Vegas. Bruce Cassidy got to flash his Stanley Cup ring when he was Beyonce,

02:05 putting a ring on it throughout the game, which I thought was just spectacular.

02:10 But they finally hold the lead. They get a Morgan geeky hat trick, which I got to be honest,

02:16 I don't think that was on my bingo card. No, none of us saw that coming. No,

02:20 never. But what did you think of the performance? What did you think of them? And we'll get into

02:27 their bigger picture stuff in a bit. But what did you think of Thursday night?

02:30 Well, I thought, you know, the end result really is all that counts. Right. Bottom line,

02:38 you don't like the way that the leads kept slip, keep slipping away. But I don't know. I think,

02:47 you know, I think we've you and I have been kind of in agreement on this from day one,

02:53 that this is a team that has holes. And lately, in trying to hold onto lead, some of those holes

03:02 have have come up more often than maybe the team or the fan base would like. But, you know,

03:13 the fact that they're picking up points, there's a lot of teams that would love to pick up the

03:19 points that the Bruins have been picking up, even though points have been left on the table as well.

03:25 They're still they're still way up there in the standings. You know, I feel like once the trade

03:33 deadline is in the rearview mirror, that some guys may be able to settle down and play a little bit

03:38 better, maybe, hopefully. But, you know, it's been you know, it's been I don't want to say it's a

03:46 rough it's been a rough ride because that, you know, we've had the Bruins have had so much success

03:54 in recent years that that, you know, a rough ride is not the right description here. But,

04:00 you know, I think last night was a positive sign. Now they got the Islanders on the road and they

04:06 got I think they got Toronto coming up. Those will be interesting tests to see, you know, where they

04:13 at, where they are, you know, against those teams and and then the trade deadline after that.

04:20 Yeah, I thought Thursday against Vegas, you know, you get score. Boquus continues to motor. He's

04:27 been I think seven points in seven games. You've got Geeky who gets the hat trick, which again,

04:33 surprised everybody. People didn't realize I think most people thought Pasternak scored that.

04:38 So when I think the Bruins realized it was a hat trick because they started playing like the hats

04:44 falling down graphic on the on the on the HGX, people were like, oh, shoot that that hit more

04:49 Geeky and he was out there with Pasternak. But then you also get that goal from Lowry,

04:54 which I think is a good sign. I mean, I know that, you know, that's a one timer, but I've

04:58 liked him on the power play. I think he continues to look like a I mean, we know this. That's his

05:03 strength. But good to see him get one, especially at the garden on Thursday. Yeah, I think the

05:09 power play that's his you know, that's his his niche. I think going forward is going to be a

05:16 power play guy. Now, he I thought it was good. He made some mistakes last night. OK, but overall,

05:27 the rebound from what frankly was not a good performance on Monday night, that was a that was

05:36 a bad game for him. That was tough. But to bounce back and, you know, have a reasonably good game,

05:44 not perfect by any means, but, you know, to play well and to to score the winning goal there,

05:50 you know, good for him. I did one thing that grinds my gears, though,

05:56 a little bit is in social media, people calling that a snipe.

06:00 When you go, you know, and I know that when you put it through the five hole,

06:08 that is not a snipe. You know, never go bar down, go top shelf, whatever. That's a snipe

06:14 through the through the five hole. No, that's just a hey, the goalie probably should have had it.

06:20 That's what that is. That's exactly what especially on a one timer to the weak side. And I think

06:26 that's always kind of, you know, but but he scores and good for him. You know, I think it helps with

06:30 the confidence and everything. I forgot he had three goals on the season. It's been it was a

06:34 while in between when he gets sent down. But when he was up at the beginning of the year,

06:38 he had a couple of goals and I'd forgotten about those. And but good to see him get on the score

06:43 sheet. You know, I think you look at just they did almost blow it again. And I think that's where,

06:52 like, they did. I agree with you. They did it. And that's what matters. And you get the win.

06:56 It's in regulation. And I guess instead of getting free hockey, fans got a really good game. So I

07:02 think that was like a good trade off for people who spent a lot of money to go to Vegas, Boston.

07:06 But I still you know, there's still they let teams surge on them. They just there are a lot of and I

07:15 know hockey is a game of ebbs and flows. We all know that. But it feels like with other teams

07:20 start to surge, the Bruins really, really take a backseat. They get very conservative and they

07:26 kind of let teams do what they want. And, you know, if you want to be like that late in a game

07:31 like they were and you want to defend the house and this and that, then great. But, you know,

07:37 like during that second period surge, it's like, man, that's still there.

07:41 Yeah, they it's like they don't have an answer for those, you know. And so what would that answer be?

07:49 You know, one thing I think it would be is a is a first line center who can get the puck in the

07:59 defensive zone and find a way to break it out or carry it out himself. And, you know, when when

08:07 Patrice Bergeron was in the lineup for 20 years, you could count on that. And now it's other guys

08:14 and it's not happening right now. So, you know, I don't know what the answer is there.

08:22 Short of they should acquire a number one center. But, you know, it's just one of those things.

08:29 The tide starts going against them. They haven't been able to reverse it.

08:33 No, I agree with you. As I was watching the game last night, I had this take come to me. It was

08:41 like it was like a it was like a clouds parted. The sunlight came through and hit me of of.

08:49 And I don't have an idea, but something the front office might consider

08:53 because the deadline is a week away now. In one week's time, we will be breaking down what they

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10:15 since the All-Star break, you know, the blown leads, the lost games in overtime, the close losses.

10:21 I wonder if, and this isn't inside information, but as we hear more about potentially Lena Solmark

10:29 getting shopped and the Bruins being potentially in on Noah Hannafin and guys like that and big

10:34 moves like that. I wonder if the front office looks at this team being close, being in all

10:41 these teams, they're not getting blown out. It's not seven, one losses. It's not even six,

10:45 three losses. They're four, three overtime losses, five, four shootout. It's close games like that.

10:52 I wonder if they look at this and say, OK, this roster can do that, but maybe one big forward,

10:57 a number one center gets them over the top, maybe a top four defense when they can Noah Hannafin.

11:03 That's what's getting that. You know, that's what's preventing us from not finishing out these

11:07 games. And the more close games they've had in the last month, the more it's kind of hit me

11:13 on what if that's their approach? Because my, my view of it has been, you know, this is a good

11:19 roster, not a great roster. You don't have a ton of assets. Don't mortgage the future. Get a couple

11:25 P, you know, get some depth pieces, go into the playoffs with the goalie tandem. And I still

11:29 believe that's what they should do. But I wonder if they continue to have these close games as

11:34 they've had over the last month, if they're thinking, you know, maybe, uh, you know, uh, uh,

11:40 Noah Hannafin gets us over the top or Elias Patterson from Vancouver. Maybe that's what

11:47 is missing. That's what gets us past all these teams and, and turns the tide when other teams

11:52 are surging. Um, do you think that's possible at all? Well, I think that's highly unlikely, uh,

12:02 because I think that the, the other holes in the roster or just the general makeup of the roster

12:09 that maybe isn't, isn't built for playoff hockey, maybe, uh, you know, the, the, the all-out

12:18 warfare that playoff hockey is, I don't know that Boston has enough to measure up to that.

12:25 I think if, if they had Milan Lucic in the lineup, well, they'd be one step closer to it,

12:31 but they don't. Uh, so I don't know that it's one player, you know, it's the old,

12:37 the old thing, uh, you know, they're one player away, but the player is Wayne Gretzky, you know?

12:42 So yeah, it would be great. Hannafin would make them a better team. No doubt about it. Does it

12:48 make them a team that can make a run in the playoffs? Well, maybe it does, but you know,

12:54 I would tend to say, no, it doesn't. I, you know, maybe they win one, maybe they win, uh,

12:58 they get to the second round with him. Maybe they get past the second round and

13:02 then it's a crap shoot going, going from there. But I don't know what they're going to do,

13:09 whether that's their way of thinking is that Noah Hannafin or, you know, I don't think

13:14 Pedersen, honestly, I don't think Vancouver in any way, shape or form is going to trade him.

13:19 But, um, it's an interesting take, but I don't know. I think, uh, it's, it's going to be

13:28 intriguing to see what they do. You know, do they, do they make one big move? Do they make

13:34 three small moves? I mean, I, I really, uh, have no idea what the, what the thinking is at this

13:41 point. I did, I got to say though, that I did, uh, at the Providence Merrimack game last night,

13:47 there were a lot of pro, uh, scouts and front office guys there. And one of them I talked to,

13:53 a very knowledgeable guy suggested that, uh, Noah Hannafin's close friendship with Charlie Coyle

14:03 is going to be, uh, could be a factor in what happens now. You know, I don't know who knows,

14:11 right? I think, uh, I think that that would be, uh, that would be fun if, if that were, uh,

14:19 something that factored into it. Uh, you know, I don't know, I don't know what other friends

14:25 Noah has around, around the Bruins. Uh, you know, I know he skates with some of those or works out

14:32 with some of those guys in the summertime, uh, close, close by, but, uh, the Coyle Hannafin

14:39 thing, uh, you know, is, uh, it could be interesting. Who knows? That's an interesting,

14:45 so would that be more free agency or would that be the, I think the thinking is that, okay.

14:52 Uh, he wants to come to Boston. He wants to not just be a, a rental, but he wants to sign.

15:02 And I'm, you know, I'm mostly making this up. So, you know, nobody's telling me that he wants

15:08 to come to Boston or, uh, that he wants to sign an extension, but I think, uh, it's reasonable

15:17 to assume that, you know, that that factors into it, that he does want to sign an eight-year

15:22 contract or a long-term contract. And why wouldn't he want to be in his hometown of, uh, of, uh,

15:29 Boston? So, you know, I think, uh, those things are certainly a possibility, but I, I wouldn't,

15:35 uh, you know, I wouldn't go on, uh, on, on Twitter and shout out that, uh, you know,

15:42 this is going to happen and this is why, because who the hell knows?

15:44 They're best friends. They're best friends. Screw the, the, the state taxes in Florida,

15:50 the lack of state taxes in Florida. Charlie Coyle takes president.

15:54 That Weymouth Norwood, uh, thing, you know, we, we, we know, uh, you know, they're practically

15:58 sister, sister towns, those two. So, uh, you know, who knows?

16:04 There'll be a clause that Noah Hannafin's contract with the Bruins. It says he has to come watch

16:08 one Sebs game a week with me and you. That's, that's what has to happen. Um, which might not

16:14 be so fun next year, but that's a different topic for another day. Um, that's an interesting point

16:21 though, because I think everyone looks at the local connections that Hanifin has, but I think

16:25 the coil thing hasn't been brought up yet about them being, uh, buddies. Um, so that would be

16:31 an interesting development. Um, if he goes to market in the off season and you know, there's

16:36 suddenly a bit there, there would be a bidding war for Noah Hannafin. And I guess Charlie Coyle

16:40 would be like on his doorstep or maybe he's like FaceTiming him or Snapchat or something, being

16:45 like, yo, pick them up at the airport and, you know, letting them live in his spare bedroom,

16:51 you know, all that. Uh, one, so another, this, this same guy I, that I talked with last night,

17:02 he wasn't saying that, uh, the Mar the, uh, Mark Stone trade that that's what Calgary is going to

17:12 do. But what if Calgary remember how little they got in that trade, little the senators got from

17:19 Vegas for Mark Stone. Yes, yes, I do. Uh, you know, what if, who knows what if it turned out

17:28 something like that? What if, uh, I don't think, I don't know that Calgary got what it was looking

17:33 for in the TANF trade. So maybe Craig Conroy is, uh, well, no doubt he's trying to, uh, you know,

17:43 do better, I think with a, with a Noah Hannafin than he did with TANF, but

17:47 boy, what a, that Mark Stone trade was, is kind of an outlier in terms of trades of big name

17:55 players, impact players for a guy that good who let's face it, captains the Stanley cup champions,

18:03 you know, they, they, they didn't get much at all for them. You know, a couple of players,

18:09 a second round pick. I mean, I don't know what was going on there.

18:14 It was, Oh, here's what it was. So at the 2019 trade deadline, stone was traded to the Knights

18:20 along with Tobias Lindbergh in exchange for Eric Brandstrom, Oscar Lindbergh, and a 2020 second

18:25 round pick. So if that, if that was a similar deal to what Calgary got for Hannafin this time around,

18:35 and that's all it took, then it's, it's different, but you also have to consider

18:39 what the Bruins to get Noah Hannafin, you would have to trade off.

18:42 You got to get rid of money. You got to get rid of money. Yeah. So, uh, but I don't know.

18:52 It'll be interesting. I want to get, I want to continue this. I want to talk about potentially

18:57 dumping salary and I want to talk about what you think they should do, um, at the deadline.

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20:19 show. So, uh, we discussed, you know, dumping salary. If you're going to go, if, if the Bruins

20:25 were to go out and get like a Noah Hannafin, right. Um, whether or not it's to dump salary,

20:30 I think the Jake DeBrusque situation continues to be really interesting. He talked the other

20:34 day about it said he is, you know, worried, um, things I don't think have gone the way he thought

20:40 they would go. I don't think the team thought it would go this way. Um, and, and DeBrusque we've,

20:45 you and I have discussed DeBrusque a lot, both here and both at ranks. Like we have discussed

20:51 DeBrusque a ton. Um, what do you see them doing with him? I think they have to trade him. They

21:01 have to trade him. They can't let him walk and get nothing. They have to get some kind of an asset

21:08 or assets, uh, ideally in exchange for him. Uh, whether it's another guy who's on an expiring,

21:17 uh, deal, oh, like Noah Hannafin, uh, or some, something else, or, you know, they,

21:24 they, they can't just allow him to walk at the end of the year. I don't think, uh, now you can say,

21:31 yeah, well they can, the, uh, the cap space they'll, they'll get, you know, they can use that

21:37 to, to fill that hole. Well, yeah, that's true. But, uh, ideally, ideally you would get something

21:45 for him. Uh, I think you have to do it. I think, um, you know, the inconsistency and all that,

21:52 that, you know, gets, uh, gone over and over and over and over again, uh, you know, concerning

21:59 Jake, you, you've got to, uh, I don't think that's going to change. I think that's just

22:03 the nature of the player. Uh, so I don't think you can let them walk at the end of the year for,

22:10 and get nothing in return. I, I, it's interesting, you know, mid year, I thought

22:16 they were in the broods are going so good. You have, you know, you have to stick it out with

22:20 the brusque because of the way that they were playing. They were first in the NHL and, you

22:25 know, it's hard to sell off roster pieces when you're that good. Um, but as things have transpired

22:30 over the last month, I come more to your side where it's like, let's be, let's be real. I mean,

22:37 it, they, they're not calling this a bridge year, but it is sort of a transitional season where you

22:42 have younger guys coming in and out of the lineup. And, um, you're seeing what life is

22:45 like without birds running, Crate. She's still, and you know, it's kind of, you're dipping your

22:51 toe in the water a bit on what this next generation of the team is going to be.

22:54 Uh, DeBrusque has had a down year. I know that the advanced analytics on him are pretty good.

23:00 And there are nights that he is defensively responsible, but the production hasn't been

23:04 there. And that's, again, we've said it a thousand times. That's what matters most

23:08 with Jake DeBrusque. And I do wonder if, you know, at this point you deal him because are you going

23:16 to, even with all that cap space, are you going to, are you going to lock in with him long-term

23:21 for a lot of money? It's clear that he probably needs a legitimate number one center or a legit,

23:27 you know, stable high producing center with him. I don't know if that's on the roster right now.

23:34 Yeah. And I just to fathom in a season like this, letting DeBrusque walk for nothing and not getting

23:40 anything in return. Cause you could also make the case in Connor. Ryan's made this case a bunch.

23:45 It's viewed as a shakeup trade. If you dealt the Brasco one, like a one for one player swap,

23:49 if you could find that, right. Like just to shake the lineup up, get something for them,

23:54 whether that piece sticks here or not, it's something different.

23:57 Um, if that helps you depth wise upfront, depth wise and back, if it's a, you know,

24:01 a struggling player for struggling player, a type swap, um, a Zaka for hollow swap, where you're on

24:07 your understanding that to Brusque ceiling is higher, but you're going out and getting someone

24:10 that might be a little more stable in the bottom six. Maybe that is a better move than just letting

24:15 DeBrusque walk completely, uh, for free. But then you have the other side of it where like DeBrusque

24:19 in the past has been a good post-season performer. And there is that potential that he does snap out

24:25 of it. You see like the game against Edmonton, uh, last week where he was dynamite, but then it's

24:30 that inconsistency that keeps popping up and you can't let, I agree with you. You can't let guys

24:35 just walk and get nothing for them. Yeah. And I mean, the narrative with him just keeps going on

24:42 and on with the inconsistency. Uh, yeah, he had that good game in Edmonton. You know, what about

24:49 was a Monday nights game? He sails in on a breakaway, I think with, I don't know, in the

24:53 last few minutes of the game with the game on a stick and the goalie makes a save and, you know,

25:01 what if Jake had buried that? What if he had scored there and the Bruins won without going

25:06 to overtime? I think maybe it wasn't overtime. I forget, but I think that was an overtime,

25:12 but I could be, I could be misremembering it. But I mean, you know, that's kind of a typical of

25:20 sort of, you know, Jake, uh, going along here in a rough year is he gets a great chance like that

25:26 and comes this close to, uh, you know, a positive, uh, what would have been a very positive ending

25:33 there and it just didn't happen. So it's, uh, it's tough. He's, uh, I mean, I, like I said,

25:41 you just, you can't let them walk for nothing. I, and get nothing in return. I don't think,

25:45 uh, you know, what if you remember a couple of years ago, now the Bruins weren't in the Rangers

25:53 weren't in this situation where the Bruins are, but you remember when the Rangers sent a letter

25:59 to their season ticket holders saying, you know, how could I forget Tim Schaller made him do it?

26:04 What if Bruins management said, you know what? We aren't winning anything this year.

26:13 We've come to the conclusion that we aren't winning anything this year. We aren't winning

26:17 the cup this year. So we're going to trade Jake. We're going to trade Grizzlik. We're going to,

26:23 we're going to trade the assets that we have that are on expiring deals. And we're going to build

26:29 for next year, the year after, and the year after that. How do you think that would, that would go

26:35 over like a lead balloon, right? I don't even think that would get through ownership.

26:40 Of course it wouldn't. There would be, wait a minute. You're going to do what?

26:46 You're not, we're not going to get playoff tickets this year.

26:49 Are you kidding me? There'll be no playoff. We're raising season ticket prices here. We can't do

26:53 this, but it's just an interesting, uh, it's, that's a very interesting idea because I don't

27:00 think that that's like long-term, right? Look at what the Rangers have done, right? The Rangers

27:06 have, uh, you know, they decided to kind of rebuild quickly. Now they did get lucky with

27:12 getting the first and second overall pick, but those guys have done like not much. So it is

27:16 interesting that they rebuilt and they did not like fully hit on those picks.

27:21 Um, you guys like Adam Fox and, and, and others factoring in, but there is an argument to be

27:28 made, right? Like, let's just play this game. And I said this at the beginning of the year,

27:31 if they sucked, you know, they did, they would have pieces to trade.

27:34 Dubrask, Forbert, Grislik, James Van Reemstyke. You know, who's been, you know, who's been, uh,

27:42 on my case about Van Reemstyke trading him and getting like a lot of assets is Carl Corzine.

27:47 Carl, Carl wants to, to deal Van Reemstyke. Cause he's like, it's going to get a lot. And I don't

27:51 think he's wrong. Like I, I, like, I think that a playoff contender, if you really were to wave

27:58 the white flag and say, we're going to just play out the rest of the season with the guys we have,

28:02 who are not on expiring deals and we're going to deal everybody else. And you know, we'll see

28:07 what happens. Probably end up being like third in the Atlantic or something and being out in the

28:11 first round. But at any point, a playoff contender would love a James Van Reemstyke. I would think a

28:16 reliable veteran who you know, is going to produce and can run the net front on the power play and

28:21 can play with good players. Like I would think that would get you something. And I think if,

28:25 if they were to do that and I don't think they do this by the way, I don't think they do this,

28:29 but if they did and they found a way to, you know, recoup a bunch of draft picks, make their picks,

28:35 develop these guys. Well, I mean, they're kind of in the Ranger spot that the Rangers are in now,

28:41 probably in a year or two, you know? So I think that's, I don't think that's,

28:45 that would be received so poorly by fans and ownership, but I think in the long run,

28:50 that actually might not be the worst idea. Well, I mean, you know, I think that, uh,

28:56 isn't that moment coming at some point, not this year, maybe, I don't know, next year, the year

29:04 after at some point, I think the, they're going to have to, uh, I think they're going to have to

29:11 bite the bullet and just go through that process that teams go through every once in a while. Uh,

29:18 you know, you don't want it to fall apart to the point where you're like the Buffalo Savers or,

29:23 or the Detroit Red Wings who, you know, now are good again, but geez, how long has it taken? Uh,

29:31 you know, I read the prospect rankings this week, Buffalo's got the number one

29:37 stable of prospects. They got this guy and they got this guy and Holy cow, they got this guy.

29:42 And yeah, and they're going to miss the playoffs for like the 9 millionth year. Yeah. Good for

29:47 them. You know, good on that. At least they can rank number one in prospect. Right. Right. But,

29:51 uh, you know, at some point it's, you know, it's, it's going to go the other way for the Bruins,

29:57 I think, because that's how it usually goes with teams. Uh, and maybe, uh, you know,

30:04 facing reality a little bit here right now might advance the process. I don't know. Uh, but like

30:10 you say, it's not happening. So, uh, they're not going to do it. They're not going to throw in the

30:16 towel. I don't think, you know, uh, so, you know, there it is. It's a, it's a, it's a pipe dream,

30:24 I guess, or a wild, a wild scenario, but probably not going to happen.

30:28 No, it probably won't. But like I'm writing down right now, right. If you were to say the future

30:34 core of the Bruins, the core players, Poster knock, Patra coil, Zaka upfront, that's assuming

30:41 Marsh, you know, March hands older now. So it doesn't factor in the brusque is probably gone.

30:47 So that doesn't factor in. Um, I don't think I'm missing anybody, uh, in terms of future core,

30:53 like four core pillars of the team up front. Um, and if I am, please remind me on D McAvoy,

30:59 Carlo Lindholm, low-rise and in net Swayman. And so this is where like, it hits with them

31:05 in terms of, you know, if they were to do, it would be a retool. Cause those guys are

31:11 probably all safe. Uh, you know, like, I don't think those guys are getting dealt.

31:16 So you're dealing the outskirts guys, you're recouping picks. You're looking to bolster

31:21 through that. Um, but at the same time, you can make the case like, is that, you know,

31:27 maybe adding a number one center changes up that whole core, you know, maybe adding a legit number

31:34 one, and we were back to where we started at the beginning of the year, we were saying the exact

31:37 same things at the beginning of the year. Um, so I don't know, but you're right. It's not going to

31:42 happen. They're not going to do that. They're going to continue to try to compete. The question

31:46 is, is this core good enough to win a Stanley cup? Um, let, before we go, what do you think

31:52 they do at this deadline? If they can't make a swing for the fences trade, like, you know, some,

32:02 you know, just for the sake of a discussion, a deal that starts with DeBrusque going one way

32:12 and Hanifin coming this way, uh, then I think they make smaller deals, you know, kind of around

32:19 the edges of physical defenseman, maybe another, a winger that can, or I I'm sorry, a face, a guy

32:26 who can win face offs. That would be nice in the defensive zone in the last minute of the game or

32:31 an overtime. You know, I think they, they make, uh, you know, trades around the, around the edges

32:39 like that. Uh, you know, maybe, uh, who was the guy they got? They brought in a guy, a big physical

32:46 defenseman, a couple of years ago, a righty. Uh, I can't remember his name. It wasn't to

32:53 Nordy. It's already, it's a lot of, you know, uh, who was it? What do you remember? What year?

33:01 No, what? No, I don't remember what year. What I do remember is that I watched that guy in the

33:07 American league for years and he was horrible. The truth comes out. I think he's still in the

33:16 league. I don't know why I can't remember his name, but, uh, was it, was Cassidy, was Cassidy

33:21 the coach or was it before then? Cassidy was the coach. Yeah. Uh, but anyway, um, um, uh,

33:28 getting off my point here, I think they'll make, I don't think they will make a trade for a guy

33:34 that's horrible in the American league, but they might, uh, a guy, you know, a guy on the fringes

33:40 of, you know, not a, you know, not a top four D, but a guy who can just clear the front of the net,

33:48 bang bodies, maybe fight a little, uh, you know, maybe I'm not suggesting Jeremy, they should make

33:55 a trade for Jeremy Lozan who got the wheels beat off him last night in a fight, but that kind of,

34:02 I have not seen that fight yet. I gotta go watch that. That kind of guy, you know, uh, I, you know,

34:08 not him, but somebody along those, uh, those lines. Uh, so I think either the, either the big swing,

34:15 which I'm hoping for, or a smaller deals around the edges that kind of make you marginally better

34:22 and fill a couple of holes, you know, that you have, uh, I think, uh, you know, something along

34:30 those lines is probably what will happen, but who knows, you know, the one thing about the Bruins

34:36 and Don Sweeney is they, a lot of times in the end, they come up with guys that you never thought

34:41 that they would trade for. Uh, yeah. Well, so we'll see what they got up their sleeve this time.

34:48 Uh, I don't know. Um, I would, I feel like I, I assume it's more of the route you just mentioned

34:53 of the guy you weren't thinking of wasn't on your radar and they're a depth forward and a depth

35:00 physical defenseman. I would assume that's the route they go, um, for content purposes and for

35:07 interest and watchability. I would love for them to go, uh, swing for the fences. I think though,

35:13 for the good of your assets and what you have, I'd rather keep the 2025 first. Uh, I would rather,

35:21 you know, keep low Rye. Um, and you know, the Hanifin thing's interesting. I was talking

35:26 about this with hags. If you're getting Noah Hanifin, right. And suddenly your top four is

35:31 Hanifin McAvoy, Lynn Tolman, Carlo, where's low Ryan that mix like low, right. Ideally,

35:37 he's going to be a top four defenseman. You hope in the next three years in that top four,

35:42 he's not breaking in. So are you feeling low? Right. If you get Hanifin,

35:50 maybe you are. Uh, I may have mentioned this earlier, you know, earlier in the year, but

35:56 before low Rye came up, you know, the pro Scouts that, you know, are in Providence on a regular

36:04 basis, a couple of them thought that, and we're filing reports that rated low Rye as a number

36:12 five, six defensemen in the NHL. So with those four guys ahead of him, presumably,

36:21 then that's exactly where he is a five, six. Uh, that's true. But I mean, I don't know.

36:28 I wouldn't think, I don't think of him as an, as an untouchable. You'd like to keep him.

36:34 Uh, I think given what else they have, but, uh, you know, who knows they may, uh,

36:41 you know, no, I'm not, I'm not saying that they're going to trade them or that they should trade

36:45 them, but I'm just saying he shouldn't be untouchable. Yeah. Don't, you know, I can get

36:51 on board with that. Um, but yeah, I'm interested to see what they do. It's a week away. It's coming

36:56 up quick. Uh, and I I'm, I'm curious to see, there's already been some fireworks, TANF going

37:02 to Dallas, get Labushkin going back to Toronto. I know there's probably gonna be more this weekend.

37:07 Uh, and next week as there, as there always is around people, people just trashing Labushkin

37:14 in the truck. I know, I haven't, you know, I'm an eye test guy, right? I'm not looking at any

37:24 numbers that might say that he's awful, but I don't know. I always kind of liked him.

37:31 I don't remember him that I don't remember him a ton from when he was in Toronto. I know

37:35 he used to always go down when hit. I do remember that. That was a common theme.

37:40 Uh, but I don't remember the ins and outs of his, his game. I know he was in Anaheim,

37:44 obviously just now, but I mean, I always thought of him as, you know, this guy plays hard. He, he,

37:49 he uses the body, uh, you know, doesn't hesitate, you know, not the worst guy in the world. Uh,

37:57 but, uh, some of the people in Toronto who have watched him a lot more than me seem to think that

38:02 he just stinks. So good luck to them with that, with that project. I know they're middling

38:09 defensemen. They love getting like middle tier defensemen at the deadline and hyping them up

38:13 like they're frigging. Yeah. They had them once and they thought so much of them, they got rid of

38:17 them, but now they're bringing them back. You know, Bruins acquired John Moore at the straight

38:22 deadline. That's what's, that's, what's going to happen next. Yeah. Um, anyways, this is always fun.

38:27 Um, lots of trade deadline stuff. Uh, what can people look for from you in the next coming week

38:33 or so? What do you got going on? Uh, not a whole lot. Just going to games. Nothing, uh,

38:39 nothing really pressing. Uh,

38:42 you know, the new England hockey journal thing I'm working on for, uh, down the road,

38:49 you know, on one and Duns and Smith, uh, Leonard Perot, Celebrini, you know, what do they do? Are

38:58 they, are they out of here? Are they coming back for another year? Um, I'm working on that and,

39:04 uh, just going to a lot of games. Uh, so looking forward to this weekend, I'm going to the

39:11 Springfield Providence game tonight. Um, we'll see who shows up. Yeah. We'll, we'll see, uh,

39:19 you know, what, what does, does this trade deadline, does this impact the Providence

39:26 Bruins? You know, do they lose guys off their roster? Uh, I don't know. You know,

39:32 nobody makes a lot of money down here. So, you know, they might want to keep those guys. Right.

39:41 To remind you that, uh, Jacob Verano of Springfield won't be playing tonight because he,

39:46 he suspended, but he's making 5.75 million to play. I was going to say, he's got a big contract.

39:55 He's making that to play in Springfield. So, uh, you know, things could be worse. Uh,

40:01 it could be, Oh my God. I forgot about that. That's a lot of money. Anyways.

40:06 Yeah, that is a lot of money. So she'd be down there, but, uh, always fun talking to hockey

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