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00:00 Hi, everybody. This is Hondo Carpenter from Sports Illustrated's Fan Nation, Las Vegas
00:06 Raiders Insider Podcast. It's great to be with you all today here in Indianapolis, Indiana
00:12 for the 2024 NFL Scouting Combined. It's been a great week. Offensive linemen are going
00:18 today. I have reflections on that. I've got so much to talk about. I want to start with
00:22 something though very quickly. Gerald Alexander, the Raiders' safeties coach, has the 49ers
00:31 have requested information and I mean permission to interview him according to I think it's
00:37 Matt Burroughs of the Athletic is the one that first reported it. I want to give him
00:42 credit. So there, I am talking to some people. I think the Raiders, I know the Raiders are
00:51 absolutely ready with what they'll do if he should get that job. But at the same time,
00:59 I've seen late last night and early this morning, some people talking about if you're willing
01:04 to go there to the 49ers, you shouldn't be a Raider. Well, let's just be honest. This
01:10 is people moving up. It's the way of the world. I don't hold this one bit against Gerald Alexander.
01:16 I think he should do the interview. I think if it's something that fits my concern with
01:22 being a San Francisco 49er defensive coordinator, as the last guy did really good and got scapegoated
01:28 for other people's mistakes, that would be my concern. However, my concern doesn't matter.
01:38 He should do what he feels is best for him and his family. But I don't have any fault
01:43 with faulting of him doing that. And that's just where the situation sits. Nothing really
01:48 to report right now. And you move on. Yesterday was the quarterbacks. We interviewed seven.
01:56 As you know, we had four articles up at SI.com/NFL/Raiders. Those four articles yesterday were JJ McCarthy,
02:05 Caleb Williams, Drake May and Jaden Daniels. Today, we've got stories coming up with Spencer
02:13 Rattler, Bo Nix and Michael Penix. So, we've been pouring out and all those stories come
02:19 with video of them talking. So, we've been just churning out the information. That's
02:24 not going to stop. We're going to keep going, obviously. So, today's offensive alignment
02:32 and there's going to be a bunch of them that the Raiders have strong interest in. So, we're
02:36 going to talk to all of them, get some feedback from them, talk about the process. I had something
02:46 very interesting yesterday that I thought you would appreciate and that you would like
02:53 to hear about. I will just tell you, all week I've been telling you about the buzz around
03:01 the Raiders. I got stopped yesterday by a coach who said to me, "I heard you use the
03:10 analogy of Antonio Pierce to a political candidate and those that pick a running mate that they
03:19 think is going to be good for governance rather than those who are just there. Maybe they're
03:24 not that good, but they're going to get me some votes." He said that. It was a great
03:28 analogy. He said he really put together an eclectic and different staff that really demonstrated
03:36 he's secure in who he is. I thought that was pretty fascinating. I thought you'd like to
03:42 just get the feel. There's a lot of feeling here that Antonio Pierce won't get a ton of
03:57 time to prove anything. I had a couple of people say, "Man, I hope he's able to do something
04:06 quick." I didn't hear anyone that rooted against him. I know some people that if they would,
04:11 they would have told me that. It was just interesting, the consensus of, "Man, I hope
04:17 he's able to win quick to keep moving forward." I thought that was an interesting analogy
04:24 and I was going to present it to you. Also caught up yesterday with Rich Bisaccia, my
04:31 good buddy, former Raider coach. What a great man. It was fun to just chat with him and
04:39 talk with him. He's doing so well. He's so respected around the NFL. Most people don't
04:47 know. He was very close to getting the Colts job. It came down to him and one other guy.
04:52 Rich would not tell you this. I just think the reason he didn't get the job was something
05:07 of which he didn't control. We'll just leave it right there. Obviously, you don't control
05:10 who hires you, but I think there was one issue. He didn't say it. I heard it from other people.
05:15 I'll probably talk about it at another time, but I don't want to get into it right now.
05:20 Just because I don't want people to think it came from him because it didn't. You move
05:25 on and you look at how things have fallen out for the Las Vegas Raiders.
05:33 Now, Monday morning is going to be my question and answer article. You guys have asked me
05:39 some really great questions over the last few weeks. I've been answering more of them
05:44 on the podcast and I'm going to do more. In fact, tomorrow, I'm probably going to do three
05:50 or four questions that you've emailed in. I'm probably going to do some on Monday as
05:55 well, but also Monday, I'm going to have a written Q&A article and answering some questions.
06:03 For example, I was recently asked by someone, is it true that the rumor that Tom Brady wanted
06:09 to be a Raider before he went to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and John Gruden killed it?
06:14 If it's true, why? I'm going to answer both of those questions on Monday in an article,
06:20 but I think it's something fascinating that you're going to want to hear. The longer that
06:25 I'm here and I'm here every year, but the longer that I'm here and you're able to gather
06:32 information, it is very fascinating to me, the perception of the Raiders. Very fascinating
06:41 to me. And the excitement, I had a buddy who's from Georgia who came up to me and first question
06:50 on his mouth is not, "Hey, how you doing?" Because we are very good friends. It's, "Man,
06:55 tell me about the Raiders. Seems to be exciting what's going on there." I had a position coach
07:01 for another team that I've known for many, many years stop me in the hallway. And he
07:07 asked me about AP, asked me about the Raiders. He goes, "Man, I'm so excited about what AP
07:13 is doing." There's that genuine excitement. Now, sometimes in the NFL, to the fans, it's
07:21 a very big league because it goes coast to coast and border to border. But what you need
07:27 to know is it's really a very small league. There's a handful of people. And so it's small.
07:35 So everybody knows everybody's business. It's like living in a small town. And so you get
07:42 to know what's the public persona, what's the private. So let me give you a few points.
07:48 Caleb Williams did not help himself yesterday. Now, I've already been telling you for weeks,
07:55 there was a ton of red flags with him, with a lot of people. There is no doubt you put
08:01 the film in, the kid is freakishly athletic and does things that Patrick Mahomes does.
08:09 And very few people do that. I am not minimizing the young man's skillset. I also want you
08:16 to know I'm not rooting against him. I don't ever want anybody to fail. I want people to
08:21 succeed. But his press conference, his medical records, who he'll do medical evals for, who
08:30 he won't. Then it comes out, the story again comes out about wanting part ownership in
08:35 a franchise. I mean, you've done nothing in the league and your ego is already so enormous
08:42 that your people around you are talking about percentage of a franchise. Give me a break.
08:52 I had one NFL executive tell me yesterday, who's not looking for a quarterback. But he
09:00 said that kid just needs, somebody needs to sit him down and help him and tell his people
09:06 to shut up and help him because he's hurting himself. And I hate to see that. I don't like
09:13 to watch that stuff. I don't think there's anything wrong with being confident. I think
09:19 there's something very wrong with being arrogant. And yes, he is physically impressive, but
09:27 there's been a lot of people that are physically impressive that can do a lot of things physically.
09:34 But being a quarterback and being a franchise quarterback, a QB1 is a lot more. I mean,
09:42 it's a lot more. You're a counselor to your teammates. You're an encourager. You are the
09:49 face of the franchise. So every single thing you do reflects completely on the franchise.
09:54 We all know owners own teams. The QB1 is the face or the star player is the face. And there's
10:01 just some things from Caleb that Max ain't playing. And I think he would get a, a root.
10:15 You need to just zip it a little bit. And I just don't know how that would go over.
10:22 It's just fascinating. It's, it's interesting to watch. I can tell you in my opinion really
10:28 doesn't matter, but the people that I trust on Caleb Williams, they are just not high
10:34 on him at all. And let's leave it there. I will tell you, Jaden Daniels had some incredible
10:44 interviews, incredible interviews. One team that interviewed me, what a wonderful kid,
10:52 just wonderful. They just, they just really enjoyed their time with them. And they're
10:57 going to take a long look at Jaden. I will also tell you, there are going to be teams
11:06 that fall in love with Caleb Williams' skill set and aren't going to care about the rest.
11:12 I think the Bears are one of them. So to me, it's, it's a no brainer, one, two, three,
11:21 you're going to have those three quarterbacks. I just still guys don't see the Raiders moving
11:27 up there. I think the cost is just so high, but that's not bad. I think you may remember
11:35 when I did my first mock draft, I think it was even last month or it could have been
11:41 even, yeah, I think it was, it may have even been before the Superbowl. I had the Raiders
11:45 taking JJ McCarthy in the second round. And I said to you at the time that NFL scouts,
11:53 I was talking to saying once more people got exposed to him, he wasn't going to be available
11:57 then. But at that time of the first mock, you could have probably gotten him if the
12:02 draft was that day. He's flown up boards. He one guy talked to who was part of an interview
12:10 with him this week, told me that kid was phenomenal. And I had two different teams tell me, he
12:16 knew our team's roster. He talked about the talent on our roster, you know, his approach,
12:22 how he, how he does things. He, one guy told me he broke into, you know, this is, this
12:27 is audible-izing. They were a little bit surprised that he was as fluent in audible-ing. They
12:34 thought maybe that would be a weakness. And before he could even ask about it, JJ is talking
12:40 about it. He's had a great one, him and Jaden, not one interview. I've not heard one negative
12:49 about either one of those guys. Talking about the interview process and who they are. So
12:54 there's a lot of guys that have helped themselves. I mentioned the other day, Terry and Arnold
12:59 ran a four or five twice that hurt them a little bit. Then you got Kool-Aid with a Liz
13:07 Frank. I know the medical evals will tell more, but at this point today, I don't, I
13:17 don't think Kool-Aid is an option at 13th, which if he hadn't have had the Liz Frank,
13:22 I think he was for sure an option. JC Latham, you know, is going to go today. The young
13:27 man from Oregon state is going to be out there today. Those are a couple of offensive linemen
13:32 that are surely on the board. Leilatu, I know I'm not saying it right. I'm not trying to
13:39 be disrespectful with a name like Hondo. So please forgive me, but Leilatu, I think is
13:44 how you pronounce it. That's a young man that impressed a lot of people. Just character,
13:53 integrity, workout, talent. So I think we're going to come away from this with a lot and
14:00 we're going to start to be getting a real view of free agency. Not this Monday, but
14:08 a week from Monday, I'm going to begin. I may start a little before, but that's when
14:12 I'm going to really hit hard on free agency. I think the Raiders are developing their plan
14:18 now. They're very aware. They're going to be looking for specific players. There's going
14:23 to be one year deals that you just fill a hole. Then there's going to be some guys with
14:29 potential multi deals. I also would not be shocked to begin hearing about some long-term
14:35 deals for Raider players being extended. That's very, very big to Tom Telesco. Telesco believes
14:48 that you reward your guys. Sometimes you got to let people go because of salary cap. The
14:54 Raiders are not in bad salary cap. I've said it a couple of times. Even though I've seen
15:00 him this week and he's my friend, Dave Ziegler, I don't think he gets enough credit. He did
15:06 a masterful job. Jimmy Garoppolo certainly helped and the salary cap jumping certainly
15:12 helped, but the Raiders are players. They got money and they're going to spend it.
15:18 But I'm also going to give you this caveat. I was talking to Tom Telesco this week and
15:25 we talked about their salary cap position and it is very good, but he really got into
15:31 detail about, "But we want to save some money because there's some guys that are coming
15:37 due for contract extensions down the road and we want to make sure we keep our guys."
15:43 I just thought that was very intuitive of him. It also sent a message to the locker
15:50 room. I heard from one of the players who watched my video that I put up of him saying
15:55 that and he mentioned it to me and said he had texted a couple of players about it. So
16:04 I thought that was very cool. I thought that was very... It just scored him points and
16:12 right now Telesco is doing everything right. I think it's imperative right now, one of
16:17 the things that the Raiders are doing very well. I was talking to an NFC guy who I know
16:23 really well and I said, "What is your impression of what the Raiders are doing now?" And he
16:29 talked about, "It seems like Telesco has a lot of Ziegler in him, very smart, very disciplined."
16:38 He talked about Tom was with the Bolts a long time and there were some things that he did
16:44 really well and then some things that the team didn't do well that weren't his fault.
16:49 And I think he's enjoying getting the opportunity to show what all of his leadership is. I am
16:56 going to tell you a couple of things that I think are very, very important. This is
17:02 Antonio's team, but Telesco is clearly the boss. And what's really cool about that is
17:11 I've said all along, I think you have to have that little bit of separation, but what I
17:15 really like is it's not Telesco running around with his head up in the air, acting all, "I'm
17:22 the big dog." He works in tandem with Antonio. He is a terrific listener to Antonio. Him
17:30 and Antonio, I'm not trying to make it sound like they've been working together 40 years.
17:36 They're still working out, but I've told you before, multiple people have told me how
17:42 impressed they are with the way they work together. And the thing that hit me is the
17:50 trust that Antonio Pierce has in him. I'm in no way going to share anything off the
17:56 record or private, okay? But I am just going to tell you in talking to him, it is very
18:04 clear that Antonio Pierce trusts Tom Telesco. And if you're a new coach and the feeling
18:13 around the NFL is he's not going to get a long time to prove who he is, to have that
18:20 trust in Tom, I think it's very cool. And I think it speaks a lot about both men's character,
18:27 that they both understand that they were hired to be fired. They both understand that there's
18:35 probably not as long of a chain on them, a leash, but let's do this together. I think
18:44 that's really cool. I forgot about this. I was told by a, I have to think of the team,
18:52 the NFC team that they think it's really cool the way Tom Telesco with JoJo Wooten and Champ
19:00 Kelly and the staff that was already there are all working together. And I explained
19:06 to him, if you knew Champ Kelly, and I do, that doesn't surprise me. Champ's going to
19:12 give his all. He is going to work, do all things with his best effort. But I think it's
19:21 just really cool the way they have worked together, the way they have divvied up responsibilities.
19:27 It isn't, Oh, I used to be the AGM or, Oh, I used to be the AGM in San Francisco. I mean,
19:34 in Los Angeles, none of that. It's just, let's just get better. So here are some things so
19:40 far that I think should encourage Raider Nation. Number one, for the first time in the five
19:45 years I've covered this team, and I fully admit it's only five years. Some of you guys
19:49 have been friends since, I mean, been fans since the sixties. Some of you fifties, man,
19:55 I so respect that. But for the first time since I've covered the team and in talking
20:03 to, and you guys know I'm friends with Matt and I've talked to so many other former people.
20:07 And even though when I wasn't covering the Raiders and I was covering the NFL for the
20:10 first time, and as long as I can remember, it really is the feeling that the Raiders
20:18 management, coaches, players, everybody is on the same page. Everybody's on the same
20:26 page. Now I use the analogy yesterday, got some criticism for it because I talked about
20:33 the Tower of Babel. You shouldn't use that, that, that tower got destroyed. No, what I
20:37 was referring to is when God made the statement, if one people, one people speaking one thing
20:44 can do anything. And I think that's right now where the Raiders are at from management,
20:51 coaches, players, this team is on board. They get it. And that unity right now should absolutely
21:01 have Raider Nation through the roof. Number two, talking about things that should encourage
21:06 them. They understand the targets on them now. For the five years I've covered the team,
21:17 even when Rich Visagia was taking them on the run, it was, no, it's the Raiders. They've
21:26 been looked at as a drama. They're going to make dumb mistakes, stupid penalties. The
21:35 Raiders have certainly been respected as an organization, but they weren't feared. It
21:43 wasn't a, the Raiders are on the schedule. There's a lot of respect for the organization
21:50 right now. I can't tell you, I'm honest to God, I can't tell you how many people, man,
21:56 could you believe the way AP turned around the penalties or could you believe how physical
22:00 they became? It was fascinating. And so around the NFL now, this team has, I don't know if
22:10 feared is the right word, but certainly respected. Yesterday, I had a guy from a team that's
22:21 on the schedule for next year say to me, we were watching the film and how different they
22:28 were those last four games. And he goes, I think a lot of people in our building got
22:36 a new found respect for the Raiders. So the first one is everybody's on the same page.
22:40 Second one is, is there's a new found respect. Why? Because they're not beating themselves.
22:46 I had a coach yesterday tell me one thing you could always count on with the Raiders
22:52 is you just would tell your guys, Hey, I know we're down, but listen, they're going to make
22:55 a mistake. They cost themselves games. I thought that was fascinating. They're going to cost
23:03 themselves games. And it's not that way anymore. I think that there's a lot of people that
23:13 know physicality is back in style in the silver and black. I was asked yesterday by a friend
23:21 of mine, how do you enjoy being in the desert covering the Raiders? And I told him, I love
23:26 it. And they go, what's the biggest surprise. And I said, the first four and a half years,
23:31 I kept wondering, when are they going to play Raider football? This is part of the reason
23:36 I was willing to take this job. Why? When are they going to play Raider football? And
23:42 I go, but those last four or five games, they played Raider football. And I think a lot
23:51 of people notice that around the league. And I think now I don't know that I would use
23:55 the term feared. I think that's too premature, but I would certainly say that the first point
24:02 of being excited, if you're a Raider fan is everybody's on board. Second point is, is
24:07 that this team now is playing Raider football and they're respected. That's a big deal.
24:13 Now, third thing that I think should excite you. And I think it's a big deal is the amount
24:19 of players talking about the Raiders here. What AP did as a former player and getting
24:28 this team going, you know, the excitement. I had a coach tell me yesterday, he goes,
24:35 all the videos of them smoking cigars in the locker room. He goes, man, our team talked
24:41 about, we need to start doing more videos like the Raiders social media department,
24:46 because guys see that. Guys see it. And this guy told me, he said, some guys in our team
24:53 were like, well, how come we don't have fun like that in the locker room? That's pretty
24:58 cool. And I think that sends a message that it's fun to be a Raider and you want people
25:09 who want to be with you. You want people that aren't with you just for the money. I'll give
25:15 you an example. When the Raiders, when I covered the Lions, I love Detroit. Great city. It
25:25 really is a good, it has such a bad reputation. It's just not warranted. It's a good city.
25:31 But a lot of people didn't want to come to Detroit. They had a reputation as losers,
25:38 even though they had the new facilities, which were amazing. And the new Ford Field, which
25:42 is so nice that they had reputations as losers. Maybe not the most, I really want to be careful
25:55 here. Maybe weren't the best payers. They had a lot of things going against them. And
26:04 so they knew if they were going to go out and grab free agents, they had to overpay.
26:13 Now Dre Bly, you may remember him. He was an all pro corner. Great guy, by the way.
26:18 I love Dre Bly. Love him. Coach now, but just salt of the earth human being. Well, they
26:25 needed a corner and he played well for the Lions, but they had to overpay.
26:31 Players aren't in that spot anymore. They're in a state with no income tax. They have the
26:35 best stadium in the NFL. They have the best training facility in the NFL. And they have
26:43 a coach that everybody wants to play for. So they don't have to overpay. They have a
26:53 lot to sell right now. A lot to sell right now. And I think that Raider Nation maybe
27:01 doesn't understand that. Now, if you think they're going to wantonly just go throw money
27:06 at the biggest names, you're missing it. They're going to be strictly disciplined. Hey, does
27:13 this guy fit in our environment? He may not be the biggest name. We don't care. Does he
27:18 fit? Is he going to come in here? Is he going to be a Max Crosby type guy? Is he going to
27:27 be a hard worker? Is he going to what's he going to do? What is he going to do? But they're
27:34 going to be buyers and but they're going to be very disciplined in how they buy with a
27:40 priority on re-signing their guys, but very disciplined on how they buy. But that's another
27:46 reason why this off season for you Raider fans, this should be just getting you jacked
27:52 up. March, April, May, June, July. Yeah, we are five months away and you have a lot to
28:01 be excited about. And then the last thing I want to talk to you about with excitement
28:05 that I think is interesting and fans may not always notice this, but it's coming through
28:12 very loud and clear here at the NFL Scouting Combine is yeah, your first one is you're
28:18 on, you're in unity. Yeah. The second one is the respect is there. Yep. Third one is
28:23 you're not going to have to overpay because other people want to be part of your organization.
28:29 But here's the fourth one. And I think it's really important is your players are recruiting.
28:41 Now let me give a little bit of detail. We had some stories yesterday. Going to have
28:47 more today on the latest NFL Players Association survey where the players made it very clear
28:56 they didn't like the way Josh McDaniels was a head coach. It wasn't that they hated Josh,
29:02 but they didn't like the way he ran it. Do you understand? But now you, I know of one
29:10 player last year that the Raiders wanted as a free agent. And one of his buddies on the
29:16 team was like, "I'm glad I'm here. I like it. My family's here. I'd love to have you."
29:21 But he wasn't selling it. They're selling it now. They're selling it. On the first day,
29:33 we had a video of a guy, Max Crosby wants to sit down and watch film with him. The Raiders
29:38 are out selling the Raiders. And I'm talking about the players. And I mentioned unity,
29:46 but this is different. You can have unity. All right. We're family. I have some people
29:55 in my family that if you ask me, are they family? Then I have members of my family that
30:03 you said, are they a part of your family? Oh yeah. I love them. The Raiders are out
30:08 there selling the Raiders and you're hearing it a lot. You're hearing it a lot that they're
30:13 out there talking to guys. Hey, you need to come join me. Hey, you need to come be part
30:17 of this. And again, I'm not going to name a name right now, but I will tell you there's
30:23 one guy in free agency that I know a couple of Raiders have been working really hard to
30:30 get him to come on over to the silver and black, who I think would be an immediate impact
30:34 player, huge impact player. I just liked the way the Raiders are doing things right now.
30:40 And those are just a few of the reasons why you should be fired up. So today we're going
30:44 to be talking offensive lineman. We're going to talk to all, you know, all of the ones
30:49 we're going to have lots of stories and videos for you. Most of today's will go up Sunday,
30:57 Monday, but we look forward to bringing you all of this. I just want to thank you. We
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31:33 And we have, I don't think anybody, I don't think this is talking disparagingly of anyone.
31:38 I don't think anyone's given you the combine coverage that we have. And I want to thank
31:42 my team. Not all of them are here, but Aiden Champion's here. And Carter Landis, two of
31:49 our great writers, Braden Reedy's here, a terrific young man, new addition to our team
31:53 who's just been fantastic. And we've just tried to bring you all that we can to give
31:59 it to you. And I hope that you're enjoying it.
32:02 And one last caveat that I think is important is that we put those videos up and I got an
32:12 email from somebody yesterday and you guys know, I listen, I pay attention to what you're
32:17 saying. You're my bosses. And this person's like, why would you put this video up? This
32:21 guy wasn't even excited about being a Raider. Okay. And I wrote back because now you get
32:27 to see, now you get to ascertain, now you get to make that judgment. And I think that's
32:37 an important judgment. Now, all next week, we're going to be putting up the entire videos,
32:43 not just the small clip. It's of Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, JJ McCarthy, Bo
32:54 Nix, Michael Penix, Spencer Rattler. A lot of people believe those are the top seven
33:00 quarterbacks. They're certainly the most, seven most well-known. I don't think those
33:06 are the seven best. I told you, I, but, but my opinion is irrelevant, but we're going
33:10 to put that up so you can watch it. We're going to be putting up some other longer interviews
33:16 with players so you can hear for yourself, see for yourself. If you're a draft junkie,
33:22 this is the time for you. Now, we're still going to be covering the team that's not draft
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