八点最热报 | 华校真的像国立大学民族研究所教授张国祥所说的那样，在教育华裔学生歧视马来人和其他友族？华校的存在真的是国民团结的“绊脚石”吗？《八点最热报》特别访问了两名曾经就读华校的非华裔，从他们的视角去看一看，华校到底是怎样的。（主播：蔡心慧）
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00:04 Multicultural schools, especially Chinese schools, have always been controversial topics in our country.
00:10 Zhang Guoxiang, professor of the National Institute of National Studies at the National University of China,
00:13 recently criticized that Chinese students only know how to say their mother tongue,
00:17 live in their own small circle, and even look down on Malays.
00:21 Chinese students educated in Chinese schools discriminate against Malays.
00:24 This remark not only caused discontent among Chinese society, but also sparked a new round of "Chinese-speaking battle" among the members of the Korean people.
00:31 However, although he is Chinese, Zhang Guoxiang, who has never studied in a Chinese school,
00:36 does he really understand that the teaching environment of Chinese schools is still a representative in front of non-Chinese?
00:41 Is Chinese school really like what Zhang Guoxiang said,
00:44 educating Chinese students, discriminating against Malays and other ethnic groups?
00:49 Is the existence of Chinese schools really a cornerstone of national unity?
00:53 8 o'clock News specially interviewed two non-Chinese who had studied in Chinese schools.
00:58 Let's take a look at the Chinese school from their perspective.
01:02 Sasha, who is currently in the Chinese language tutoring class, said during the interview that
01:07 she had studied Chinese and Chinese.
01:09 At that time, there were indeed some students, anyway, a few,
01:13 to tease her with a more discriminating joke.
01:16 But she said, "These are just a few naughty students."
01:21 She thought this was a matter of individual students' cultivation.
01:24 Most of the students and teachers took good care of her.
01:27 Many students even tried to make friends with her because of her "different" language.
01:32 Another hardline interviewer, Carrie, also agreed that
01:36 discrimination is everywhere.
01:39 Even in Malays or Tamil schools,
01:42 this will also happen.
01:44 It can't be said that Chinese schools look down on their fellow Chinese students.
01:49 She replied, "During the six years I studied in Malaysia,
01:53 my classmates didn't look down on me,
01:55 and they didn't exclude me because I was Indian."
01:58 She even jokingly said that when she was studying in Malaysia,
02:01 her Chinese friends around her made her forget that she was Indian.
02:06 This situation also made her feel that
02:08 she and other Chinese friends actually had no difference.
02:13 The two said in the interview that
02:15 the cultural differences between the different ethnic groups mainly come from
02:19 the differences in family backgrounds, ideas, and thinking.
02:22 They believe that Chinese schools are a good platform for exchange
02:26 to let people from different ethnic groups understand each other's ideas and cultures
02:29 and break the prejudice and misunderstanding against each other.
02:32 They also pointed out that if more Malays and Indians
02:35 are willing to go to Chinese schools to learn Chinese and understand Chinese culture,
02:39 they believe that this will reduce the conflicts caused by cultural differences
02:43 and promote unity.
02:45 My best moment?
02:48 I have a lot of memories in Chinese school.
02:52 Not just in middle school, but in Chinese school.
02:54 A lot of good memories.
02:55 When I was in Chinese school, everything was taken care of.
02:59 Quality of education, number one.
03:01 If given the opportunity, I would really like to go back to my middle school days.
03:06 I really want to go back because I found that
03:08 my classmates and teachers were very, very good.
03:12 They also took good care of us in terms of our studies.
03:15 Because I was able to get my education in Chinese school,
03:17 I am where I am today.
03:18 Haha, Ms. Sasha.
03:20 Chinese school and middle school have brought them the best memories.
03:25 The friends who went to Chinese school,
03:27 Sasha and Kylie,
03:28 when they were interviewed by 8.48,
03:30 talked about their own experiences in Chinese school.
03:33 Their faces were full of smiles.
03:35 Both of them said that when they first went to Chinese school,
03:38 because Chinese was not their mother tongue,
03:40 they had to work harder than others.
03:43 But fortunately,
03:44 most Chinese students were not afraid of the dark,
03:47 and were willing to help them.
03:48 This allowed them to study in a completely unfamiliar environment
03:52 and grow up with knowledge.
03:54 I can say that 60-70% of them,
03:56 regardless of whether they are Indian, Chinese, or poor,
03:59 they are still okay.
04:01 It seems that Chinese or my math was very bad at that time,
04:04 they would come to help me.
04:05 Chinese, I don't know how,
04:06 their math was very good.
04:07 Math, science, and what else?
04:09 They would come to help me.
04:10 So English, I would help them.
04:12 We helped each other.
04:13 I think that aspect was very good.
04:16 Chinese, I really appreciate.
04:18 I am like this because of Sasha.
04:20 Every year, there was a big sale.
04:23 Once, we were selling bread outside.
04:26 We happened to meet a group of Malays.
04:30 I was talking about buying bread at Nabili Roti.
04:33 She was shouting there,
04:35 "Hey, Nabili Roti is in Babil."
04:36 At that time, I was very angry.
04:38 This is just bread.
04:39 There is no meat or anything inside.
04:42 Then, a few friends,
04:43 my classmates,
04:45 pulled me back and said,
04:46 "Calm down, calm down."
04:47 "It's okay if she doesn't want to buy it."
04:48 "Calm down, calm down. Don't be so impulsive."
04:50 At that time, I felt that
04:51 my friends knew me very well.
04:54 They wouldn't see me being criticized like this
04:57 and would encourage me to be there alone.
05:00 They would help me.
05:01 The mutual help between classmates
05:04 is the most memorable memory
05:05 that the two interviewees have brought to China.
05:07 They said that
05:08 they have never regretted studying at a Chinese school.
05:10 Because of the Chinese education,
05:11 they not only have more opportunities
05:13 to learn more languages,
05:15 but also to learn more about Chinese culture.
05:17 Through learning Chinese,
05:19 they have more job opportunities
05:21 than their own ethnic groups.
05:23 Even their salaries are higher
05:25 than those who don't speak Chinese.
05:27 I put my Chinese on my TV.
05:29 Do you know how many companies
05:30 have followed me?
05:31 I have worked with them.
05:32 Many people watched my TV.
05:34 They said, "You can speak Chinese?"
05:37 "Wow, you can speak Chinese?"
05:40 "Wow, that's amazing."
05:41 They told me that
05:42 I don't need a CV or certificate
05:45 to be a friend.
05:46 When I started looking for a job,
05:48 I met many people.
05:49 They said, "I wish I was like you.
05:51 You can speak Chinese,
05:52 and it's easy to find a job."
05:53 I thought to myself,
05:54 there are thousands of people
05:55 who don't speak Chinese
05:56 and can't find a job.
05:57 So I don't come out to help them
05:59 and teach them Chinese.
06:01 When I just graduated,
06:03 more than ten years ago,
06:05 I was interviewing for a job.
06:08 The boss said,
06:09 "You can speak Chinese?"
06:10 At that time,
06:11 he knew I could speak Chinese.
06:12 He immediately gave me
06:13 a salary of more than RM2,000.
06:15 At that time,
06:16 RM2,000 was a relatively high salary
06:18 for a person who was only ten years old.
06:20 I had just graduated.
06:21 After working for a year or two,
06:23 I wanted to resign.
06:24 So I interviewed some teachers.
06:28 After discussing with me,
06:31 we were able to give him
06:33 a salary of RM1,600 or RM1,700.
06:35 I asked the boss,
06:36 "He's very good.
06:37 He has good grades."
06:38 He said, "I'm sorry,
06:39 he doesn't speak Chinese.
06:40 He doesn't speak Chinese.
06:41 It's that simple.
06:42 He doesn't speak Chinese.
06:43 There's no way he can't compete with you.
06:44 You can speak Chinese.
06:45 The students like it."
06:46 From not being able to speak Chinese at all
06:48 to now being in society
06:49 and becoming a Chinese teacher,
06:51 Sasha and Kelly Chi both believe
06:52 that Chinese studies not only teaches them
06:54 Chinese,
06:55 but also the spirit of Chinese
06:57 willing to fight and take risks.
06:59 They also hope
07:00 to use their own strength
07:02 to help more non-Chinese people
07:03 master Chinese
07:04 and break the barriers
07:05 between races.
07:07 As Zhai Jianyue is now,
07:12 Sasha also mentioned
07:13 during the interview
07:14 that during her studies at Chinese school,
07:16 Zhai Jianyue was unable to eat,
07:18 but was taken care of
07:19 by many Chinese students.
07:21 She said,
07:22 her classmates tried to avoid
07:24 eating in front of her.
07:26 Sometimes,
07:27 they even hid behind her
07:29 to eat secretly
07:30 so that she wouldn't feel uncomfortable.
07:33 Not only that,
07:34 her classmates also
07:35 especially cared about her
07:36 during Zhai Jianyue's time.
07:38 They asked her if she was tired,
07:39 if she needed to rest,
07:40 and so on.
07:41 Although these greetings
07:42 may sound insignificant,
07:44 they made her feel
07:45 a different kind of warmth.
07:47 It was precisely because of Chinese school
07:49 that the Chinese,
07:50 Malays,
07:51 and Indians
07:52 who originally lived
07:53 in different backgrounds
07:54 were gathered together.
07:55 Chinese school instead
07:56 formed a platform
07:57 for national integration.
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