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"Jald Bhut Saray Raaz Fash Hojaynge...", Afnan ullah's Big Statement
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- Senator Afnan Ullah PMLN
- Mumtaz Zahra Baloch (Ambassador)
"Jald Bhut Saray Raaz Fash Hojaynge...", Afnan ullah's Big Statement
Shaukat Yousafzai reacts to Shehryar Afridi's statement regarding PTI
FO Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch reacts to Indian Defense Minister’s provocative statement
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00:00 Pakistan's political parties are having a one-man show. When one man is on the side, the political parties come to attack and attack. And this is happening in Pakistan's Tehreek-e-Insaf.
00:27 In Pakistan, all the leaders seem to be together. But now, these differences are being seen openly.
00:41 In the last episode, I asked the leaders of all the parties, off the record, on the record, everywhere, how many differences there are.
00:59 The leaders of all the parties are saying, "The people are ready, I am still silent, do not force me to split. This is your father's party, who gave sacrifices, who were insulted by many brothers.
01:14 And you will sit alone and decide. What is going on? Do politics. We do not want to do politics. We are thinking about the future of Pakistan. And those people who are sitting in the PTI, you listen, this party cannot compete with us.
01:28 There are some hypocrites in us. I am going to speak openly. I am not afraid of any show-cast.
01:37 The matter does not end here. When this question is asked to Barrister Gauhar, his answer is that the party matters should be within the party.
01:48 There is no need to come out and do dirty laundry in public. But with that, Mr. Marwat stands. And you know that Mr. Ramzal Marwat speaks directly.
01:57 He directly, disagreeing with this, put a stamp on the Sheryar Afridi's statement.
02:06 Sheryar Afridi definitely said that Sheryar Afridi is our very good worker. We have a very big regard for him. And he has made great sacrifices and he has been very stubborn.
02:15 If you are our leader and our hero, whatever words you say, we are trying to say that if you want to talk about anything between the parties, then do it on the party platform.
02:26 There is no need to say outside. I do not have any such proof that who are people are united. Every party or leader keeps telling each other. So this is a routine.
02:36 The candidate for which Sheryar Afridi has spoken, I agree with him every time. He has spoken correctly.
02:47 There is a lot of discomfort on the face of Barrister Gauhar. How will Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf remain united?
02:57 Now these questions are being raised. But the matter was not only up to this point. In this press briefing, when a question was asked about Sheryar Afridi,
03:04 that Sheryar Afridi is being tried on the back foot, he said that he is our leader, there is no such thing.
03:10 Disagreeing with this, Sheryar Afridi says that I am trying to take it on the back foot, there is no doubt about it.
03:18 But I will come forward in front of those who are trying to do it. On the one hand, this is the matter. On the other hand, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is now going to make another statement.
03:29 And what is that statement? That statement is that we have been subjected to the same oppression that happened in 1971.
03:37 Which is a very dangerous statement to give. Listen to it first.
03:39 Mr. Khan has also made a statement today that the way in which a propaganda is being made against our winning candidate,
03:48 requests are being made, recounting is being done, and in recounting, his victory is turned into defeat.
03:55 We remember this, Mr. Khan has given an example of this, that you are taking the situation to 1971.
04:01 It was the same at that time that the party that got the majority, its people were disqualified, by-elections were held, and the majority was converted into a minority.
04:11 Now the interesting thing is that this is the PTI with which the JUI is not ready to stand right now.
04:18 Why is it not ready? Because it is said that the beneficiary of the fraud in KPK is Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:25 Now every party that is losing is accusing the other party that it is being fraud.
04:29 And the strange thing is that the winning parties are also raising their voices that we have not won.
04:35 So this whole scenario has become a very dubious scenario.
04:39 But along with this, today in Imran Khan's jail, he met the journalists, and in the meeting with the journalists,
04:46 he has expressed such cowardice or such anger that the government of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf was overthrown.
04:55 First they called it an American conspiracy, then it came to all these political parties.
05:02 Before that, it was about the London Plan, and today it is about the London Plan again.
05:07 That it was the London Plan, and because of the London Plan, this matter was ruined, and after ruining it, we are now being targeted for political revenge, and so on and so forth.
05:16 But if the matter had remained only up to this point, then the matter was different.
05:22 The matter is also in other parties.
05:25 Rana Sanaw Allah Sahib has a statement, which I will also tell you, that what he is basically saying about the Minister of Interior.
05:32 If he wants, he will come to the committee, or he will get the head of the committee.
05:37 If he wants more than this, then he will get it.
05:40 You are saying that you will get a bigger position than this.
05:42 The minister of interior is bigger than the minister of interior, sir.
05:45 It is his good fortune that he does not want to become the minister of interior.
05:52 It is a good thing.
05:53 But if he wants, he can become. He is in this position right now.
05:56 Absolutely. There can be no other opinion in this.
05:59 He can become whatever he wants.
06:02 Now listen to what Mr. Javed Lati Sahib has to say.
06:05 Our government was not formed.
06:06 Our government did not have a majority, yet we had to form a government.
06:11 What was the reason for this, that they had to form a government?
06:15 Even today I am saying that on 8th February, the election was held.
06:19 The results were made.
06:20 That means some people have been defeated, some people have been defeated.
06:23 And that is how the government was formed.
06:25 So you are maintaining that your government was not formed, but it was made.
06:31 Look, this is a fact.
06:34 We do not have a majority according to the results of 8th February.
06:41 How much will you listen, how much will you listen?
06:44 All political parties are looking disunited at this time, which is not good for Pakistan.
06:49 The political system of Pakistan is demanding strong and strong political parties at this time.
06:55 We will talk about this.
06:56 And then obviously, after Eid, another scenario is going to be created.
07:00 That is a scenario of protest.
07:01 We will meet on 12th in Quetta, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf and other parties that are with them.
07:06 And from 13th, protest will start from Pashin.
07:10 How the government will be ready for this, we will discuss this too.
07:13 Senator Afnanullah is with me in the studio.
07:16 Thank you very much, Senator, you joined us.
07:18 Senior Aynurma of Pakistan Muslim League Noon, thank you very much.
07:20 Shaukat Yusuf Sahib will be with us.
07:23 Senior Aynurma of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, thank you very much, you also joined us.
07:26 Lastly, we will discuss another very important topic.
07:31 Before I go towards the discussion, I will tell you that India has come to the stage of 'Aitaraaf-e-Jurm'.
07:35 And what is 'Aitaraaf-e-Jurm'? We will talk about it at the end.
07:38 Mumtaz Zahra Balot Sahib will be with us.
07:40 Translation, Office of Expenses.
07:41 But let's start with the political discussion.
07:43 Senator, people from your own Jamaat are saying that it is a great favour of the Minister of Internal Affairs.
07:48 He became the Minister of Internal Affairs, not the Prime Minister.
07:51 And this statement of Mian Javed Latif Sahib completely ends your mandate that we did not win.
07:58 To be precise, our government was made on 8th February by changing the results.
08:02 We did not have the resources. What are you doing?
08:05 In the name of Allah, the most merciful, the most merciful.
08:07 Look, Mian Javed Latif Sahib is the senior leader of the party.
08:11 If he says anything, it has a lot of weight.
08:16 Many other people have the same reservations,
08:21 apart from them, many other party members,
08:24 that the 8th February election was not handled properly.
08:30 What was not handled properly?
08:32 The matters were not handled properly.
08:34 You did not win?
08:36 No, I think, in my personal opinion, many of our people think that the results have been changed.
08:44 How have the results been changed?
08:46 Have they been changed in your favour or against you?
08:48 There is a stance, right?
08:50 They have said that, the pick and choose thing,
08:53 that thing, to some extent, if you look at it carefully,
08:57 Where have you been picked and where have they been chosen?
08:59 This has happened and other big things have happened.
09:02 I cannot tell you. Let some time pass.
09:05 Some secrets are in our hearts.
09:08 When the time is right, I will tell you.
09:10 What are the secrets that are going in favour of PTI or in your favour?
09:15 The secrets will create problems for many people when they come out.
09:19 They will come out?
09:21 How many?
09:23 I think they will come out in a few months.
09:25 How many months?
09:26 In two or three months.
09:27 It is possible that they will come out before this.
09:29 So, after two or three months, the secrets that you are saying,
09:31 that are buried in your heart and you do not want to reveal,
09:34 when they come out, what will happen?
09:37 The thing is that, when the election results of 2013 came out,
09:44 after that, there was stability in the country.
09:46 The results of the 2008 election came out and there was stability in the country.
09:49 This is a new thing that has started after 2018,
09:52 after which there is destability in the country.
09:55 By the way, you do not seem to be in the government, Senator Afnan.
09:58 You are talking about opposition, opposition type things.
10:00 I will answer the questions that you have asked.
10:03 You said that there are many secrets.
10:05 Does this mean that there is something wrong?
10:07 There are many such matters.
10:09 When the time comes, then we will see.
10:11 Should PMLN have been formed or not?
10:13 I think that we will have to decide whether the people in this country will decide or some other people will decide.
10:22 If we decide this, then the country will be fine.
10:25 But if we run the matter like this,
10:27 see, 6 crore people have come out and voted.
10:30 In 2018, crores of people voted.
10:33 We will have to bow our heads in front of the people.
10:37 We will have to listen to the people,
10:39 whether it is in our interest, in the interest of someone else or anywhere.
10:43 That makes sense.
10:45 But before I go to Shaukat Yusufzai Sahib,
10:47 because he will be very happy that you have said this,
10:50 probably his opinion will be supported.
10:53 But whatever you are saying,
10:55 the changes that have happened,
10:57 whatever, was it in your favour or in their favour?
11:00 Just make it clear to me.
11:02 This matter is not that simple. It is complicated.
11:04 How?
11:05 It is complicated.
11:07 There are many issues.
11:08 Tell me, where were you defeated, where you should have won, PMLN?
11:11 And where were they defeated, where they should have lost?
11:14 This is also a part of it.
11:16 See, a lot of things have been said by Mian Javed Latif Sahib and other parties.
11:21 So you should also do it, Saim Sahib.
11:22 No, I am not doing it now.
11:23 When the time is right,
11:25 now the time is not right,
11:27 then we will do it at that time.
11:29 Now, this is our wish,
11:32 that the country should be stabilized.
11:35 How?
11:36 The country should be run with understanding.
11:37 You are hiding the secret in your heart.
11:39 You are saying that after two months,
11:41 many secrets will be revealed and you are saying that the country should be stabilized.
11:44 I am saying that I can see,
11:46 maybe I am seeing it wrong,
11:48 but I can see it unfolding.
11:50 Now, if you put the ground of facts in front of you and see,
11:56 then you will understand what is happening.
11:58 Okay, Mr. Shaukat Yusuf Zaheer is smiling.
12:00 Mr. Shaukat Yusuf Zaheer, are you happy that
12:03 the government has also started to say that the elections were not right?
12:09 Are you happy that there is an opportunity for the situation of Pakistan's movement for justice to be right?
12:16 Thank you very much.
12:19 See, now the whole world outside Pakistan is also saying that the mandate has been stolen.
12:25 A person who is in jail today and his party has also stolen his mark.
12:30 And people are standing in the free part of the country just by taking his picture.
12:34 And he won and despite that,
12:36 what happened to him, apart from stealing the mandate,
12:39 the blood was shed on the special seats.
12:41 These are all the things that are coming up when you put any democratic party against the wall.
12:47 You forced the party to make a government.
12:51 And whatever happened, it happened for you.
12:55 Despite this, the PTI has taken more seats, but now you have to make a government.
12:59 See, it was our right to make a government.
13:01 He is telling us why we are not making a government.
13:03 We said, make it.
13:04 How do we make it?
13:05 Our 70-80 seats have now been snatched.
13:08 So after that, how do we make a government?
13:11 We make it with the People's Party,
13:13 on which we understand that the economy of this country and the destruction of other institutions
13:18 has become the means of destruction.
13:21 Why are the PIs forced to sell?
13:23 So many unlawful things have happened in it.
13:26 All the ships of the outside world are giving income.
13:29 But Mr. Shaukat Jaiswant Singh, this will be a different topic.
13:31 PIA is fine, you are talking about corruption.
13:33 But listen to one of my meanings.
13:36 You are saying that there is corruption here,
13:39 the YUI is saying that we do not want to protest with you because you are the beneficiary of this corruption in KPK.
13:44 So if that very dangerous analogy that your party is giving,
13:49 that the 1979 account is being made,
13:51 if that was the case, then you would not have been given such a peaceful government in KPK, right?
13:56 Look, they have to give the government in KPK.
13:59 If we did not have a government in KPK, then whose would it be?
14:03 You tell me.
14:04 The Chunchunjhan Maraba that they have made,
14:07 we have seen its consequences before,
14:09 their one and a half year government.
14:11 The growth rate of that was a little bit destructive.
14:14 Just look at that in 2020-2021,
14:17 which was up to 5.8% in our time,
14:19 then in 2021-22 it reached 6.2%.
14:23 When the PDM government came, it went to -2%.
14:26 And then finally it came to 1.8%.
14:29 So these were their conditions.
14:31 Today, look, they have put the slogan of inflation and got our government finished.
14:35 The trend started in Karachi,
14:37 the protests started in Lahore, the protest started from here,
14:41 everyone said together that it is inflation.
14:43 What was inflation?
14:44 It was 8.9% in 2021-20,
14:46 and then finally it went to 12% in our time.
14:50 When the PDM government came,
14:52 it reached 29.2% in 2022-23.
14:56 And now it is at 26% in 2023-24.
15:01 And then your Ghalib Pakistan has said that
15:04 no business person, 73% of the people,
15:09 do not trust this government.
15:11 Why are they not trusting?
15:13 The last 1.5 years of government,
15:15 the government that finished our government,
15:17 the government of the Nigrahan,
15:18 what did they do with the economy?
15:20 That in itself is a separate story.
15:24 Senator, if you want to answer,
15:26 then I have to bring another question to you.
15:28 Because you are talking about trust,
15:29 there is a loss of trust elsewhere.
15:31 I will bring the question, Senator, a very quick reply.
15:33 But first, the figure you are quoting is wrong.
15:35 It went up to 5.8% and then 6.4%.
15:38 In the last year, it was 5.8%.
15:41 They imported 84 billion dollars and
15:43 made the country bankrupt.
15:45 And the people who are giving lectures
15:47 about trust and honesty,
15:49 go and see Transparency International.
15:51 They say that Imran Khan and your government
15:53 are thieves of this country.
15:55 The amount of corruption that happened in your time,
15:56 has never happened in this country.
15:58 We gave it at 177th place,
16:00 you took it at 136th place.
16:02 And not only that,
16:04 you are stealing elections.
16:06 In 2018, the result changed to 53 seats.
16:09 In which the people who lost, were made to win.
16:12 You have forgotten that very conveniently.
16:14 And they are still ready.
16:17 If they get a chance today,
16:18 they will repeat the same mistake.
16:20 You are saying that they are doing NRO seats.
16:22 Yes, absolutely.
16:24 Is this your information or an allegation?
16:26 No, this meeting that took place in Peshawar,
16:28 what is this?
16:29 On one hand, they are making a big anti-establishment.
16:31 On the other hand, they have attended the meeting.
16:33 Don't make the people fool.
16:35 The people have not forgotten your performance.
16:37 Sir, I have a question.
16:39 Look, this is a very sad thing.
16:42 Maybe they think that Tariq-e-Insaf
16:44 is an army against the Jamaat.
16:46 This is not the case.
16:47 We consider our army as a patriot.
16:50 We respect our army.
16:52 We are standing with the army.
16:54 Who told you that we are against the army?
16:56 This is a pre-war war.
16:58 There is a war going on in Peshawar.
17:01 There was a time when FATA was with the federal government.
17:04 Today, FATA is with the Subey.
17:06 And look at our tradition.
17:07 The Corps Commander invited us for Iftar.
17:09 And the situation was such.
17:11 The whole cabinet has gone.
17:13 And they attended the Iftar.
17:15 And they also gave a briefing
17:16 about how the war against terrorism is going on.
17:18 You know that our police,
17:20 our security guards,
17:21 our army has made a lot of sacrifices.
17:23 Mr. Shaukat, your stance has always been this.
17:28 Do you remember what happened to you on 9th May?
17:31 The unfortunate incident.
17:32 I remember it.
17:33 But what you are saying is a sensible stance.
17:37 What your allies are saying,
17:39 what they are saying from the jail is something else.
17:41 They are still pointing to the side
17:44 as if there is no point in agreeing on anything.
17:47 And from your Jamaat,
17:49 Mr. Shaukat Yusuf Zaheer, just let me finish.
17:52 From your Jamaat,
17:54 it has become that this person is associated with the establishment.
17:57 This person is associated with this person.
17:58 There are relations between them.
17:59 So what are these allegations?
18:01 Why?
18:02 Listen to me.
18:04 Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif, all of them,
18:07 even now, their leaders,
18:10 they talk against the BJP.
18:12 They talk against Faiz Hamid.
18:14 And they have been doing it before.
18:15 So was this a statement against the army?
18:17 If they do it, then it is fine.
18:19 If we take someone's name from here,
18:22 or do something,
18:23 look, the army is our army.
18:25 Imran Khan has said it a hundred times
18:27 that I am with the army.
18:29 Because look, if our army is weak,
18:31 then Pakistan will be weak.
18:33 Then what will we do with a weak Pakistan?
18:35 This is a complete misunderstanding.
18:37 This is a conspiracy of the Noon League.
18:39 They want to fight our army.
18:41 They will do it.
18:42 Let it not happen.
18:43 This is absolutely their, look, this is something.
18:45 They should have been happy.
18:47 There is a war going on against terrorism.
18:49 Khairat Pukhtun is their front line.
18:51 We are defending your entire Pakistan from there.
18:53 If we don't do this together with the army,
18:55 then who will come and fight for us?
18:57 Your leaders have come from London.
18:59 What have you done?
19:00 You have forgiven them for Rs. 80 billion.
19:02 You have ended the cases on your sons.
19:04 You had to do all this, right?
19:06 What else have you done?
19:08 Tell me, since when have you ended our government?
19:10 Tell me, what control have you reduced?
19:12 What did you do?
19:13 You had come to say that we will reduce inflation.
19:16 Hasn't inflation reduced?
19:18 The Prime Minister has not come to press a button
19:20 to reduce inflation.
19:21 Then you should have said that we will come and press a button.
19:23 We had not said that we will come.
19:25 We said that we will get a government.
19:27 It has not been a month since the government came.
19:29 This government?
19:30 I am talking about this government.
19:32 There is one person who is working to default the country.
19:34 In the morning, afternoon, and evening,
19:36 a leader is working to default the country.
19:38 The country will be divided into three parts.
19:40 The country will be bombed.
19:42 They have forgotten this conveniently.
19:44 They have forgotten this conveniently.
19:46 They have forgotten this conveniently.
19:48 I want that the country should have less polarization.
19:52 I want this.
19:54 It should be at every level.
19:56 But it is not possible that you fool the rest of the people
19:59 that you are a big anti-establishment.
20:01 You take the anti-establishment board and go and put the whole game.
20:04 You are talking about polarization.
20:06 Mr. Ashok Jai, you were answering,
20:08 but there is no sound because it is disconnected.
20:10 Polarization is now very much in the Jamaats.
20:12 On one hand, there is Sheryar Afridi,
20:14 who is hiding in our Jamaat.
20:19 On the other hand, there is Barrister Gauhar,
20:21 who is saying that we should talk about this quietly,
20:23 within the party,
20:25 and not to prepare a dirty laundromat in front of everyone.
20:27 So, this polarization has come in your own Jamaat.
20:30 Imran Khan says that there are some people
20:33 who are keeping relations with the establishment.
20:35 Why is there such a severe tension?
20:40 Look, our party has gone through a very difficult time.
20:45 And we have made a lot of sacrifices with great difficulty.
20:49 I have not received any such pallet.
20:51 You know what happened.
20:53 Despite this, it is obvious that if they are getting information from somewhere,
20:56 then they will definitely express it and also end it.
21:00 And we do not know this truth,
21:02 but as far as Sheryar's problem is concerned,
21:04 look, Sheryar and his family have made great sacrifices.
21:08 If he is ignored, then he will be ignored.
21:11 The party is fine,
21:13 the workers have made him emotional,
21:15 and they must have taunted him,
21:17 that you are so old, you are so good,
21:19 you are in the intra-party,
21:21 or you did not get anything else.
21:23 So, definitely he must have been angry,
21:25 and he should be angry, he has made great sacrifices.
21:27 You are not angry,
21:28 the names that have come,
21:29 especially on the core committee,
21:31 which has been made another committee,
21:33 what names have come in it?
21:34 Ali Muhammad Khan said it,
21:35 Shahram Taraki said it,
21:36 Sheryar Afridi has come,
21:38 Shaukat Usain Sahib,
21:39 you are also old, right?
21:41 Look, I will tell you,
21:42 I am from 1996,
21:44 and the elections fought in 1997,
21:46 I, Asad Qaisar and Imran Khan have been left out of it.
21:49 I am talking about Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
21:52 apart from these three,
21:53 there is no fourth person who fought the elections in 1997.
21:56 So, I mean,
21:58 I am not talking about myself,
22:01 I do not want any position.
22:02 But is it fair?
22:03 But I think,
22:05 senior, junior,
22:07 all of them have to run the party together.
22:09 It is not possible that we say that all the seniors should come,
22:12 it is not possible that we say that
22:13 accommodate all the new ones.
22:15 It is done,
22:16 Alhamdulillah,
22:17 all the MNAs have been formed,
22:18 all the new ones who came with us,
22:19 who made sacrifices,
22:20 all of them have become MNAs.
22:21 Now, everyone will have to run together.
22:24 This is Gauhar Khan's test,
22:26 he is the chairman at the moment,
22:28 he wants everyone to run the party together,
22:31 and he has the ability,
22:32 he is very sensible,
22:33 he is a cool-minded person,
22:35 he has a good thinking,
22:36 he is a good lawyer.
22:37 Some people are emotional,
22:39 they are emotional.
22:40 Mr. Shaukat,
22:41 I feel from your words,
22:43 like you said that
22:44 it is the test of Barrister Gauhar,
22:46 that means,
22:47 Barrister Gauhar is not getting complete in the test yet?
22:51 No,
22:52 I did not say that.
22:53 I am saying that
22:54 if the voice is coming from somewhere,
22:55 like Mr. Shehryar has raised,
22:57 Is the voice coming correctly?
22:58 Yes.
22:59 You see,
23:00 I think,
23:01 this is the party's assets.
23:02 What happened to Shehryar?
23:04 And what happened to Ali Muhammad Khan?
23:06 If we do not bring such people in front,
23:09 then workers will not forgive you.
23:11 Let me add another person to the list,
23:13 what did not happen to you?
23:15 Sir, leave me.
23:16 I am talking about you,
23:17 you are sitting in my program,
23:18 the rest are sitting far away.
23:20 So, what did not happen to you?
23:21 We know that.
23:22 So, at this time,
23:23 in the party,
23:24 there is Barrister Gauhar,
23:25 there are others,
23:26 many people are calling him a parachutist.
23:28 It is strange.
23:29 So, is this getting better?
23:30 I am...
23:31 Gauhar has not made him on his own,
23:34 Imran Khan has made him.
23:36 And for me,
23:37 if Imran Khan is the party's man,
23:39 I am the soldier of Khan,
23:41 then I will listen to everything Khan says.
23:43 This test is for Gauhar,
23:45 he has made him,
23:46 now how will he run the party,
23:48 his workers,
23:49 old people,
23:50 new people,
23:51 how will he run?
23:52 This is now his test.
23:53 I have to go towards the break.
23:55 But just tell me this much,
23:57 can Barrister Gauhar balance old and new people or not?
24:00 I think he will do it.
24:02 Will he do it or not?
24:05 Not yet.
24:06 I am very careful.
24:07 Not yet.
24:08 It is not that the entry party elections have been held,
24:11 many people have been ignored in that too.
24:13 And I think this thing will have to be seen.
24:16 So, basically you are saying that
24:18 Barrister Gauhar is not able to balance old and new people.
24:22 I am going towards the break.
24:24 I know him,
24:25 he will balance.
24:26 Let me go towards the break.
24:28 We will come back after the break.
24:29 After that we will do the program.
24:30 See you after the break.
24:31 Welcome back after the break.
24:38 Senator Afnan,
24:39 one thing has come there,
24:41 that there is a problem in the party,
24:43 there is tension.
24:44 Just now,
24:45 Shaukat Yusufzai Sahib said before going to the break
24:47 that he is not able to balance till now.
24:49 Barrister Gauhar will do it.
24:50 Next story.
24:51 He is not able to balance in your party too.
24:54 Right now,
24:55 both Wifaq and Punjab are with you.
24:57 And here this tension has started.
24:59 It is a very interesting news today,
25:01 that the government has asked the important officers,
25:03 who were going to Islamabad,
25:04 to the Punjab government,
25:05 we are not giving them.
25:06 There are two people,
25:07 DIG Operations Lahore,
25:08 Ali Nasir
25:09 and Secretary CNW,
25:10 Sohail Ashraf Sahib.
25:12 But these matters,
25:14 they continue.
25:15 Don't say this.
25:16 Look, your smile is coming off.
25:18 You also know,
25:19 these matters do not continue.
25:20 These matters are the epitome of something.
25:22 It is obvious,
25:23 that there will be such a matter,
25:25 that both sides will have requirements.
25:27 What matter will be there?
25:28 Any complaint from Mohsin Naqvi Sahib?
25:30 No, Mohsin Naqvi Sahib.
25:31 Or these officers are so good,
25:32 that Maryam Nawaz Sahiba also wants them.
25:34 Sometimes it happens that the officers are like this.
25:36 Sometimes it happens,
25:37 this time it is not happening.
25:38 I cannot say anything,
25:39 I do not know about the Daclis case.
25:40 But I think,
25:41 this should not be read much.
25:42 Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
25:43 We are reading them,
25:44 not you.
25:45 Pakistan Muslim League Noon
25:47 is in the leadership of Nawaz Sharif.
25:49 He is united.
25:50 Nawaz Sharif is not in the leadership.
25:52 Where is Nawaz Sharif's leadership?
25:54 The whole party is with Nawaz Sharif.
25:56 And is Nawaz Sharif standing with the government or not?
25:59 He is still standing with the government.
26:01 Which government is he standing with?
26:02 The Punjab government or the Wafaq government?
26:04 He is still standing with both.
26:05 Till now?
26:06 The government that is still there,
26:07 is the same.
26:08 But do you see any change in the government in the future?
26:10 You are saying,
26:11 that in 2-3 months,
26:12 there will be some change.
26:13 Can there be any change in the government?
26:14 In the future,
26:15 anything can happen.
26:16 This can also happen.
26:17 This can happen?
26:18 This can happen.
26:19 In the future,
26:20 you see,
26:21 many things will be dependent on the situation.
26:23 This means that,
26:24 if Nawaz Sharif
26:25 backs his hand from any government,
26:27 then it will be the Wafaq government.
26:29 He will be standing with Maryam Dhaiba.
26:31 I mean,
26:32 right now,
26:33 we are standing with the system.
26:35 Leave the now,
26:36 tell me what is happening inside the party.
26:38 Inside,
26:39 we will know in a few months.
26:41 No, no, no.
26:42 This is something else.
26:43 You are not telling us.
26:44 I am telling you as much as I can.
26:46 What more can I tell you?
26:48 But,
26:49 under the leadership of Amiya Nawaz Sharif,
26:51 the party is united.
26:53 Till now?
26:54 Absolutely.
26:55 So far?
26:56 We are standing with Amiya.
26:57 So far?
26:58 Okay, Shaukat Yusufzai Sahib,
26:59 you are enjoying the Senator Afnan's talks,
27:01 but the same is the case in your party.
27:04 No political party,
27:05 except the People's Party,
27:06 which is now the People's Party United,
27:08 in that also,
27:09 Zardari Sahib,
27:10 Bilawal Bhutto,
27:11 the thing that he said about Zardari Sahib,
27:13 that he is not ready for the Prime Minister,
27:15 he might have added a little bit of color to it.
27:17 But,
27:18 all political parties should not be of national level,
27:20 and all political parties should start having tug of war,
27:23 and the talk about your political party should start coming,
27:25 that,
27:26 this is what Vukla has hijacked.
27:28 So, what should we do,
27:29 Shaukat Yusufzai Sahib?
27:30 See,
27:31 the issue of our party is that,
27:33 God willing,
27:34 the problem will be solved very soon,
27:35 if it is there.
27:36 How?
27:37 In every party,
27:38 when the parties are big,
27:39 then issues arise.
27:40 But,
27:41 what you are feeling there,
27:42 I should not talk about the Noon League,
27:44 which I see as a politician,
27:46 the issue of that is,
27:48 Shabasharif versus Nawasharif.
27:51 Now,
27:52 you see,
27:53 some of their people are coming out openly,
27:55 so,
27:56 it is obvious that they are being backed.
27:57 It is not that they are speaking on their side.
27:58 So,
27:59 to bring this pressure,
28:00 that,
28:01 Shabasharif Sahib should think that,
28:03 I am the party head,
28:04 and I am doing all this.
28:06 This is what happens.
28:07 This is the thing.
28:08 This is the thing.
28:09 This is the thing,
28:10 not even for Barrister Gauhar,
28:11 that people are opposing him,
28:13 that he should not think that he is the party head.
28:16 See,
28:17 in PTI,
28:18 there is a hope that Imran Khan is there.
28:21 Apart from Imran Khan,
28:22 there is no one else.
28:23 There is also Mian Nawaz Sharif,
28:24 right, Mr. Shaukat?
28:25 There,
28:26 this is what I am telling you,
28:27 in the case of RS,
28:28 that the situation there,
28:31 that is,
28:32 that,
28:33 Shabasharif has his own group,
28:36 and Nawasharif has his own group.
28:37 They are running parallel.
28:39 In PTI,
28:40 there is nothing like that.
28:41 In PTI,
28:42 whatever Imran Khan says about it,
28:43 that will happen.
28:45 Apart from that,
28:46 no other person can come in between.
28:49 So, this means,
28:50 Mr. Shaukat,
28:51 this means,
28:52 clarification,
28:53 this means that
28:54 Imran Khan has left the old people behind,
28:58 because of which they are now complaining.
29:00 What did not happen with you?
29:02 I remember that on the night of 25th May,
29:03 you were at D-Jock,
29:05 and you also faced all these things.
29:07 Where are you standing now,
29:08 at this time,
29:09 in the party?
29:10 I see you just on the sidelines.
29:13 The thing is,
29:15 that day,
29:16 I will tell you,
29:17 this happens in parties,
29:18 the D-Jock you are talking about,
29:21 it was 3.30-4 pm,
29:23 because he had to leave immediately.
29:25 At that time,
29:26 when I went to the party,
29:27 I was told about me,
29:29 that he has not gone at all.
29:30 Who said?
29:31 He came to our party at that time.
29:34 New people or old people?
29:36 The CM of Mahmood Khan,
29:38 called me and said,
29:40 that this report has come,
29:41 and the special branch has given this report,
29:43 that you have not gone to Islamabad.
29:45 I said,
29:46 all my people were in Islamabad,
29:48 and I went to the KP house
29:49 to pray till 4 pm.
29:52 I came back after that.
29:54 I said,
29:55 what you are saying is completely wrong,
29:56 but they said,
29:57 that this report has come,
29:58 and this report has also gone to Khan Sahib.
30:00 We were also scolded a lot for this,
30:02 that you people had hidden.
30:03 I said,
30:04 we have not hidden.
30:05 This happens in parties,
30:06 and in our parties,
30:08 it is possible that our opponents,
30:10 No, this happens in every era,
30:12 and every time.
30:13 We cannot claim that,
30:15 You are accepting the words of Shaukat Jaisalmer,
30:17 but you have to accept it.
30:19 When you do this in any democratic party,
30:24 then you will get it from somewhere.
30:26 Senator Afnan,
30:27 do you want to say something?
30:28 I think that,
30:30 the need of the time is,
30:32 that the work on the Charter of Reconciliation,
30:34 should be done seriously.
30:36 First reconcile among yourselves.
30:38 No, whatever it is,
30:39 but at this time,
30:40 I think that,
30:41 all the political forces should come to one platform,
30:45 and settle some issues,
30:47 so that in the coming times,
30:49 there are no such issues,
30:51 that people do not accept the result.
30:54 And this is the demand of wisdom.
30:57 And this is the most important thing, I think.
31:00 If we live on this,
31:01 then this is better for everyone,
31:03 for the people and for us.
31:04 Okay, okay.
31:05 Shaukat Jaisalmer,
31:06 time is over.
31:07 Thank you very much for joining me in the program.
31:09 One sentence,
31:10 just one sentence.
31:11 For that,
31:12 create an environment.
31:13 This cannot be done.
31:14 Who is doing it?
31:15 You or me?
31:16 Your core commander has a meeting.
31:17 I am doing it.
31:18 I am doing it.
31:19 I am doing it.
31:20 I am doing it.
31:21 You have a meeting right now.
31:23 Environment is being created.
31:25 Okay, Shaukat Jaisalmer,
31:26 thank you very much.
31:27 Senator Afnan,
31:28 thank you very much for joining us.
31:29 We will go to the break,
31:30 and talk after the break.
31:31 India has openly admitted to being a terrorist.
31:35 After the break.
31:36 Welcome back after the break.
31:42 Nazreen,
31:43 in just a few years,
31:44 20 Pakistanis have been killed
31:46 on the Pakistani land.
31:48 If this is not India's terrorism,
31:49 then what is it?
31:50 Before this,
31:51 the Canadian citizen in Canada,
31:52 who was talking about freedom for Sikhs,
31:55 who are being oppressed non-stop,
31:57 whether they are Sikh farmers or Sikh citizens,
32:00 the way they are being oppressed in India,
32:02 the one who raised his voice against them,
32:05 Hadith Singh Nijjar,
32:06 was also killed in Canada.
32:08 Then, not only that,
32:09 the plot of killing a US citizen,
32:11 a Sikh citizen,
32:13 was made from India's own embassy.
32:18 One thing became clear,
32:20 Narendra Modi,
32:21 has a very terrorist mindset.
32:24 He keeps that mindset.
32:28 And it is becoming very clear.
32:31 But the problem is,
32:32 it is becoming clear to the world.
32:34 Pakistan has been giving the dossier to the world for many years,
32:38 and telling the world that India is not defending in any way,
32:41 or fighting terrorism,
32:43 but is committing terrorism.
32:45 Now,
32:46 after the news was published in The Guardian,
32:48 that how India is interfering on the Pakistani land,
32:51 is terrorizing,
32:52 and how it is killing Pakistani citizens,
32:56 the Minister of Defence, Rajnath Singh,
32:59 has committed a heinous crime.
33:01 [Audio cut]
33:07 We have killed 20 terrorists in a few years.
33:09 You have killed 20 terrorists?
33:10 Yes.
33:11 You can call them terrorists,
33:12 but they have been killed on their land.
33:14 Any terrorist from our neighbouring country,
33:16 who tries to disturb India,
33:18 who does terrorist activities here,
33:20 we will break his face.
33:21 If he runs to Pakistan,
33:22 we will kill him in Pakistan.
33:24 So, you are saying,
33:26 and the Prime Minister is also saying,
33:27 that now India is not the same India,
33:29 which will stand next to you and watch the drama,
33:31 and will enter your house and kill you.
33:33 Absolutely, what the Prime Minister has said is absolutely true.
33:35 [Audio cut]
33:36 Calling someone a terrorist,
33:38 and killing him,
33:39 where is this international law,
33:41 which is being followed?
33:43 Khawaja Asif, our Minister of Defence,
33:45 has given a very blunt answer to this.
33:46 He has reminded us of the plane of Abinandan in 2019.
33:50 [Audio cut]
34:17 The answer will be given in the same way,
34:19 but remember,
34:20 this is not some kind of accident.
34:22 This kind of international terrorism,
34:24 is a strategy of India.
34:26 In 2019, Rajiv Dowal,
34:27 who is the National Security Advisor
34:29 to the Prime Minister of India,
34:31 what did he say?
34:32 Listen.
34:33 Pakistan's vulnerability is many, many times higher than India.
34:37 Once they know,
34:39 that India has shifted its gear,
34:41 from the defensive mode,
34:42 to defensive offence,
34:44 they will find,
34:45 that it is unaffordable for them.
34:47 You can do one Mumbai,
34:48 you may lose Balochistan.
34:50 This Indian set-up,
34:52 which is called BJP,
34:55 but is actually a terrorist mindset of the RSS,
35:02 Modi had said something similar,
35:04 targeting Balochistan.
35:06 He was forgetting,
35:07 how the Genocide Watch in Assam and Kashmir,
35:10 is saying that the situation is very bad there.
35:14 Listen to what Modi said.
35:16 The way the people of Balochistan,
35:18 have thanked me,
35:21 the way they have expressed their gratitude,
35:23 I want to express my gratitude from the bottom of my heart.
35:26 To transgress the land of Pakistan,
35:30 and to do terrorism,
35:32 the confession that Rajnath Singh has made,
35:35 on the backing of him,
35:36 is Prime Minister of India,
35:38 Narendra Modi.
35:39 This is the proof.
35:40 This is the India,
35:41 in which there are dozens of methods of freedom,
35:43 where there is a strong protest,
35:45 against the armed forces of India.
35:48 Women are putting very serious allegations,
35:51 and this is the same Narendra Modi,
35:53 who has made it impossible for the Muslims there,
35:55 to stay alive.
35:57 In our program,
35:58 Sarfaraz Wangalzai,
35:59 who was an important figure in Balochistan,
36:03 who was on the other side,
36:05 came across,
36:07 and joined the national strata of Pakistan,
36:09 what did he say in our program?
36:11 The terrorism that is going on in Balochistan,
36:13 with India's involvement,
36:14 is a different story altogether.
36:15 That in itself is evidence and witness.
36:18 But let's listen to what Sarfaraz Wangalzai said,
36:20 when he joined the national strata.
36:22 India is a traitor.
36:25 In spreading the threat of Pakistan,
36:28 it has been its key role.
36:30 It is still doing so.
36:32 India is in contact with people,
36:34 with different organizations.
36:37 They are being fed,
36:38 they are being armed.
36:40 They are being targeted by neighboring countries.
36:42 And they are even being told,
36:45 that wherever you do a case,
36:47 make videos of it.
36:48 So that we can make videos,
36:49 and we can run a campaign against Pakistan.
36:53 They are being run by other countries.
36:55 Their people are sitting there.
36:56 They are being funded for social media.
36:59 We have with us,
37:01 Muntaz Zahra Baloch,
37:03 who is the translator of Daftar-e-Kharja.
37:05 Thank you very much, Muntaz,
37:06 for joining us.
37:07 India has confessed its crimes.
37:09 You heard what Ajit Doval said.
37:11 You heard what Narendra Modi said.
37:13 He said that we used to go to other countries,
37:15 to stop Pakistan,
37:17 which they say is an intrusion.
37:20 Is it time for Pakistan to take the blame?
37:24 Or are we still looking towards the international community
37:27 to stop this barbarism from India?
37:29 The statement you gave today,
37:33 shows the face of India,
37:39 which Pakistan has known for a long time.
37:42 And now slowly,
37:43 this face is becoming unrecognizable all over the world.
37:46 And India's leadership,
37:49 can use such sentences and slogans
37:55 to fool its people.
37:58 But they cannot fool the Pakistani people.
38:02 Nor can they scare them.
38:04 Because the Pakistani people know how to defend themselves.
38:07 And earlier, like in 2019,
38:10 and our Defence Minister mentioned this,
38:13 in 2019, they tried to enter the house,
38:17 and they had to be beaten up.
38:19 So, the people of Pakistan,
38:23 and the defence forces of Pakistan,
38:25 are ready to answer them.
38:28 And they know this too.
38:31 And India knows this too.
38:32 And the whole world knows this.
38:34 And this, in this year,
38:36 in 2024, we told the whole world twice,
38:40 that whenever there is a war on the land of Pakistan,
38:43 whenever our sovereignty is violated,
38:46 Pakistan will respond in a full way.
38:49 And India has already received a message,
38:53 and such statements,
38:56 may give them political benefit,
39:00 but internationally, or even with the visa of Pakistan,
39:02 they will not get any benefit.
39:04 You have said a very important thing, Muta Sahiba.
39:06 Two weeks later, Lok Sabha elections are held,
39:08 and once again, Narendra Modi and his party are in the race.
39:12 Is it a norm to get such statements
39:15 close to the elections?
39:17 Or is it being done for the political leverage of the elections?
39:20 Or has it become the way of India
39:23 to terrorize the land of other countries?
39:25 Now, this has nothing to do with the elections.
39:28 Look, whatever purpose they are doing it for,
39:31 the main thing is that it is unacceptable.
39:36 What they said, their Minister of Defence,
39:39 that they support an illegal activity,
39:44 which according to international law,
39:46 according to the UN Charter,
39:48 is completely unacceptable,
39:50 that in any sovereign state,
39:52 you do such a violation,
39:54 this is unacceptable.
39:56 Pakistan has given this message again.
39:59 But you know that recently,
40:02 in the Middle East,
40:04 and in Europe,
40:06 and in North America,
40:08 their actions have received a very strong response.
40:14 And in the international community,
40:16 this is becoming very clear,
40:19 that India is becoming a rogue state,
40:24 because it is acting against international laws.
40:26 Right, Mumtaz Zahra Balot Sahiba,
40:28 thank you very much for joining me in the program.
40:30 It has become very clear that India is a rogue state now.
40:33 It is a state that spreads terrorism.
40:35 Anika Nisar, we will meet tomorrow with new topics.
40:38 Allah Hafiz.
40:40 (whooshing)