MEDI1TV Afrique : Réouverture des frontières du Niger - 20/04/2024
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13:26 Yes, we are going towards normalization in all ways. In terms of strategy, when we leave the logistic of confrontation, at a certain point now we go towards the logic of cooperation.
13:39 I think that is the direction we are going. This confrontation, this tension has allowed us to show the vulnerability of each other.
13:58 There is one thing that people don't know, there is an acid aqua between the production of electricity between the two countries, that is, Nigeria and Nigeria.
14:08 You know that originally Nigeria wanted to build a dam on the Nigerian river that the two countries share.
14:16 The construction of this dam by Nyame could have had environmental repercussions on Nigeria, especially in terms of water and water resources.
14:31 So I think that the two governments have agreed that the dam could be built in Nigeria and that in return Nigeria should sell this electricity to Nigeria.
14:45 But you have seen with the sanctions, with the sanctions of the CDAO, I think that some reflections are being made in Nigeria to see if we should not reactivate this project of the construction of hydroelectric dams
15:01 that had been put on hold because of the agreements that had been concluded between Nigeria and Nigeria. I think there are reasons, there is the reason of the state that can lead to the change of certain positions.
15:17 So for me there is a normalization, but the CDAO, the relations between the countries of the CDAO in particular and the countries of the EU will never be as they were in the past.
15:29 Maybe they will no longer be innocent relations.
15:33 The other countries have understood the danger they can be exposed to. The ones that we considered weak yesterday, have now been able to have the strength,
15:47 they have been able to understand that they are very important. We had spoken about very poor countries, especially every time we talked about Nigeria in international media,
15:57 but they have realized today that they are not as poor as that. They have succeeded in making the great French colonial power fold,
16:11 and also today they have asked more recently at the American military base to leave the country.
16:19 And this is because there has been a change in the geopolitical and geostrategic international configuration.
16:27 These countries have understood today that in order to exist in international relations, when you have a lot of resources, you have to put yourself under an umbrella.
16:34 That is, when you are weak, you have to put yourself under an umbrella. And there are two umbrellas.
16:39 There is the Western umbrella, which is headed by the United States and then the Western countries. There is the Russian umbrella, which is headed by Russia, China and Turkey.
16:51 And these two powers hold the atomic weapon, which are the weapons of dissolution. So these African countries are led by military powers.
16:59 They have understood today that when you have strategic resources, as is the case today in the Sahel, you must necessarily put yourself under the umbrella of one of these powers.
17:08 You have raised the subject of the umbrella. My question is to know if there has not been, on the one hand, the umbrella of faith, or what I call the diplomacy of faith.
17:18 Because the borders were opened in the period of Ramadan, the month of Kareem. We know the strongly Islamic Niger, we know the strongly Islamic Nigeria.
17:28 And let us remember that a few months ago there was the Arab-African summit, where we saw the importance or influence of Islamic diplomacy on these two countries.
17:39 Is there not this link that plays in these new agreements?
17:42 Yes, it is a capital link. It is important to note that religion plays an important role in our states.
17:48 This is a humanitarian issue, because the month of fasting is just over, but during the fasting period, there are varied food activities.
17:59 There is a certain dynamic of economic activities, and the month of fasting in our Muslim brothers demands even more financial resources in terms of sharing.
18:09 If two countries that make borders have trade, and the majority of these trade is between Islamic communities, it is important for these states to reopen their borders as soon as the month of fasting begins.
18:24 But I want to quickly answer this question. I want to go back to what he said.
18:28 I think that this new configuration of the political or geostrategic space that we see in Africa with the United Nations, with the Nigerian association,
18:36 could be an opportunity for the BRICS to have new markets, to be able to propose new economic and financial alternatives to Nigeria.
18:45 It is important to note that the arrival of the BRICS with Brazil, Russia, China, Turkey and others, facing the Western bloc, will be a powerful tool to rebalance the trade relations on a global level.
19:00 What I said about Nigeria, for example, is that in 2021, Nigeria exported onions for a value of about 12 billion francs CFA.
19:11 And 70% of these onions were exported to Ghana.
19:17 So I would say that, while Ghana, as we spoke earlier about Nigeria and other countries, but also other countries, for example, are impacted by these sanctions imposed on Nigeria.
19:31 And diplomacy plays, even in the case of extreme tensions, even in the case of extreme tensions, wars between countries, the links have never been totally, I would say, dissolved.
19:43 There is what we can call the diplomacy of the shadow that is still at play.
19:47 I think that these factors must have played a role in the easing of measures towards countries like Nigeria, which exports onions.
19:57 And these onions do not only feed Nigeria.
19:59 There is the Ivory Coast, there are other coastal countries, especially where there is a strong Muslim community that depends on these onions.
20:04 So we also had to, I mean, lower the guard, we also had to lower the tension, the weight of the sanctions on these countries.
20:15 Because everything we do to these countries, when we go abroad, they are still fresh countries.
20:20 I think that some decisions must have been taken against their will by some of the people of the CDAO.
20:25 Because, indeed, international organizations, international regional organizations are under influence.
20:30 Since the UN, until all the organizations you know, the UN, NATO, etc., are international organizations that are under the influence of the most powerful.
20:39 And the CDAO is not so much what we see, we have seen in the course of a, that is, in a public way, we in the intelligence community, we talk about events that are public, that we see.
20:54 President Macron said, in a video that is available on YouTube, that he was going to join the president of Ghana to take action against some countries of the USA.
21:05 That's very clear, that's all on YouTube. He said it publicly.
21:08 So that shows, I mean, the degree of dependence of these organizations under the African Journal, which are under the influence,
21:17 including the CDAO, the African Union, well beyond the European Union, under American influence, NATO, etc., etc.
21:24 So you see that this is how international relations are drawn. It is the weakest that crushes the strongest that crushes the weakest.
21:31 So, gentlemen, we are reaching the end of this show. Today, how do you perceive Niger?
21:38 Are there any improvements? Is Niger being re-established, put in place? Or are we still in these sanctions-related difficulties?
21:46 I think that Niger is a country that is being re-established. Because Niger has lived seven months under embargo, I mean, economically and financially.
21:55 Seven months of border closures, this has necessarily impacted economic exchanges. And in this dynamic, Niger certainly had to find resilience strategies.
22:04 So, on the basis of the reopening of its borders, these resilience strategies that have been deployed during the difficult period, I would say,
22:11 will be pursued, will be implemented, or other strategies will be put in place in the context of the continuity of relations with other states, as I said.
22:21 But that's what I said earlier. The rest of this problem is the function of the clear definition of the OSCE.
22:30 And then don't forget that the question of money is pending. The question of eco.
22:35 So, we are in a fairly complex pattern, because we have the OSCE, which is in the process of being put in place, which is in the process of being structured, which is in the process of being organized.
22:43 There is the problem of the French FAA, which is still making money on it. There is also the question of the credibility of the CDAO.
22:51 Today, the CDAO is an organization that is decried because of its impartiality, at least.
23:00 So, all these issues put together deserve to be criticized by many more municipalities, which will allow us to determine the future of Nigeria in the future.
23:08 The future of Nigeria is a bit on this question that we are going to finish. It is with you that we are going to finish.
23:14 My question, which is a bit, I don't know how to present it, but is the fact that Nigeria opens its borders,
23:22 doesn't that somehow mark a certain weakness, a failure, even at the level of the AES?
23:29 No, I don't think there is necessarily a certain failure. It is true that we must recognize one thing, and that is that Nigeria is an enclaved country.
23:38 And when we have an enclaved country, I think there are a lot of difficulties, and things are not always easy.
23:45 But at the same time, we must recognize that sanctions are also a bit like a boomerang, they can have a boomerang effect.
23:52 That is, sanctions can at the same time have negative effects on the people who impose these sanctions,
23:59 and the people and the countries to whom these sanctions are imposed.
24:04 In the case of Nigeria, I think there are threats. I think that in international relations today,
24:16 Nigeria and the countries of Litako and Gourma are at the head of the wealth that is being convocted by very powerful people.
24:24 And these great powers have become used to taking their raw materials without paying much today.
24:30 Are they going to be content to watch the show and wait?
24:34 When we look at history, we see that these are the countries that have, if we can put it simply, more than one thing in their bag.
24:42 And so I will say that it will require a lot of vigilance at the level of these countries, because independence has hit hard.
24:53 And this is what we must be able to take into account. Many international organizations today,
25:00 including the World Bank, etc., etc., are planning an economic imbalance for countries like Nigeria,
25:06 which was once considered the poorest country in the world.
25:09 So I think that this autonomy towards which the African countries of West Africa are going,
25:17 we have seen the case that happened recently in Senegal, we don't talk about it enough, but I think that this is part of a dynamic of evolution at the level of African countries.
25:27 And I think that Nigeria is ultimately on an ascending path on which Nigeria is not very sure to take a step back.
25:37 Redynamization of relations, reopening of borders between Nigeria and Nigeria and gradually with other countries, normalization of relations.
25:45 Gentlemen, thank you for your analysis and contributions.
25:48 We were talking about Nigeria and the reopening of its borders with its border countries.
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