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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Fakhr-e-Alam, once again I welcome you all to Cricket Kahaari.
00:08Today we have another special guest, my good friend, who is with me in the studio.
00:14He has represented Pakistan in 62 ODIs and 57 T20s.
00:20He has played 310 first class wickets and 2 test matches for Pakistan.
00:24He is known as Pakistan's first T20 specialist.
00:29I have Sohail Tanveer with me. Sohail, Assalam-o-Alaikum and welcome to the show.
00:32Walaikum Assalam, Fakhr-e-Alam. Thank you.
00:34Great to have you here. Great to see you. You are still super fit, just like me.
00:40You have made a good comparison.
00:43Well, thank you. I have always set a standard for myself and I want to maintain it even after leaving cricket.
00:53I still work out in the gym. I still have that hunger to play cricket.
01:00So, I look after my diet as well. I don't eat a lot.
01:07But I do look after my diet.
01:10I also eat a lot.
01:11I know, I know. I have been observing it for a long time.
01:15It's a good thing. You should eat a lot.
01:18So, let me start with a pertinent question.
01:23You have played 2 test matches. But you have 310 first class wickets.
01:28How come you didn't play more test cricket?
01:30That's the only regret I have in my professional career.
01:35I could have. Instead, I should have played more test cricket.
01:40More red ball cricket for Pakistan.
01:42Especially in conditions which are suitable for seam bowlers, swing bowlers.
01:48Right.
01:49When I started my career, obviously, T20 cricket was not a concept.
01:57No, it wasn't.
01:58So, the selection used to be based on 4-day cricket more than 1-day.
02:03Whether you are coming in 1-day or you are playing test cricket.
02:07So, I used to deliver in 4-day cricket.
02:10When I made my debut, it was in T20.
02:17It was the first world cup.
02:19And then, I didn't play test cricket in 2008.
02:25I played my first series in India.
02:28You know how many fast bowlers get help in India.
02:31But I think I did okay.
02:33My 5 wickets were not lucky wickets.
02:38Either I got out in slip.
02:40You had to work for them.
02:41Yes.
02:42And you created the opportunity.
02:43I got out Sachin, Ganguly, Dravid.
02:45All the big batsmen.
02:47So, what I am saying is, it was okay performance.
02:51After that, when I was at my peak.
02:54I was the No.1 bowler of Pakistan in 2008.
02:58There was no test series of Pakistan in 2008.
03:01In 2009, I was dropped from the test team.
03:05And then, I never made it.
03:07I made it twice.
03:08When I toured New Zealand.
03:11I played a side game.
03:13I was a part of 1-day, T20 and test teams.
03:16I made 4 outs in the side game.
03:19Against New Zealand.
03:21I came in 3-day.
03:22But, never got a chance.
03:24Then, I was with the team in Zimbabwe.
03:27I was a part of the test team.
03:29But, again, never got a chance to play.
03:31So, I don't know what was the reason.
03:33It's not only that you scored 310 first-class wickets.
03:39I have scored 3000 runs.
03:41Yes.
03:42I have scored runs in such a difficult condition.
03:45If you see those runs.
03:46Or those who have played first-class cricket with me.
03:49You should ask them.
03:51I used to score runs when it's really needed.
03:55Actually, my follow-up question was.
03:57You score only 310 runs.
03:59You have scored 3000 runs.
04:00And you are right.
04:01Because, in first-class cricket.
04:02The kind of pitches you have to bat on in Pakistan.
04:05In those days, the conditions were very difficult.
04:09So, I know the challenges.
04:11There were some extremely uneven pitches.
04:13Extremely turning pitches.
04:14Gray's ball.
04:15Extremely, yes.
04:16Gray's ball.
04:17So, it was a very difficult thing to score runs.
04:19And you scored runs.
04:20In fact, at one time, you were told.
04:22We are getting a Waseem Akram type all-rounder in a new mould.
04:25That's how people used to talk about you.
04:27My batting.
04:28Especially, that difficult condition.
04:30And I played most of my cricket in Rawalpindi, Islamabad.
04:33Yes.
04:34So, you know.
04:35In Rawalpindi stadium.
04:37What kind of pitches are there in diamond.
04:39How difficult it is there.
04:40So, all my runs.
04:42They are on 7th or 8th number.
04:44Right.
04:45And at that time.
04:46When 6 outs are on 100.
04:47So, I have scored 100 runs.
04:48You have saved the match.
04:49Yes.
04:50So, my regret is that.
04:52I could have been a very good all-rounder of a red ball.
04:56I could have been made.
04:57I had all the ability and capability.
05:00In white ball.
05:01If you are playing on 8th or 9th number.
05:04So, it's very difficult to become an all-rounder.
05:06There you are hit and miss.
05:08Sometimes you hit.
05:09Sometimes you miss.
05:10But in red ball cricket.
05:11Even if you are batting at number 8.
05:12You get full chance.
05:14Until you get out.
05:15The inning doesn't end.
05:16Yes.
05:17So, you get full chance.
05:18So, I have scored runs in red ball like this.
05:20I have scored on 8th number.
05:22But there was full opportunity.
05:24So, I don't know.
05:26What was the reason.
05:27I got tagged.
05:29Like you said in T20 Specialist Intro.
05:31I got tagged.
05:34But that's not a bad tag to have.
05:36Because your T20 career has been pretty intense.
05:40And the reason is that.
05:42You know I look at your career.
05:43It's not just for the Pakistan team.
05:45Which is your T20 career.
05:46Rajasthan Royals.
05:47IPL.
05:48You are one of the few Pakistani players.
05:50Who played in IPL.
05:51When it was allowed to play in the beginning.
05:53You have played in CPL.
05:55Bangladesh Premier League.
05:56You have played.
05:57Big Bash.
05:58You have played.
05:59But is there anyone left?
06:00Tell me.
06:01There is no proper league.
06:02Which I have never played.
06:03There you go.
06:04That sums it up.
06:05So, it's not a bad tag to have.
06:06Especially in modern day cricket.
06:07Where there are a lot of international players.
06:09Like Sohail.
06:10They say that I am taking retirement.
06:11From ODI and Test matches.
06:12I have only played T20 franchise.
06:14Those people are doing it.
06:15Who don't have the passion to play for their country.
06:18Well said.
06:19I still feel.
06:21The word I used earlier.
06:22Regret.
06:23The 400 T20s I have played.
06:25About 450.
06:27I have played abroad.
06:28In domestic leagues.
06:30Here and there.
06:31If I had the option.
06:33If I had played half of it for my country.
06:35I would have been more satisfied today.
06:37So, I had that passion.
06:40To represent my country.
06:43To show what I haven't done.
06:46After playing for Pakistan.
06:48When I started getting in and out.
06:50For no reason.
06:53People give up.
06:55Especially with my portfolio.
06:57And the way I was getting world wide league cricket.
07:00If it was someone else.
07:02He would have said.
07:03I am earning money.
07:05I am playing cricket.
07:06I am making a name for myself.
07:07But I always had that passion.
07:10To represent my country.
07:12To give my 100% for my country.
07:14Wow.
07:15But as they say.
07:17The more you want something.
07:19The farther it goes from you.
07:22That was in my case.
07:24The only regret.
07:26In my career.
07:28Otherwise.
07:29If you say.
07:30Being a Muslim.
07:31Obviously.
07:32If I look back.
07:3420-25 years back.
07:36When I was a kid.
07:38I had a dream.
07:39What I used to pray.
07:41That I play one match for Pakistan.
07:43How many matches?
07:44My prayer was.
07:46That I play just one match.
07:48I wanted so badly.
07:50To get that green badge.
07:52I used to say.
07:53May I get just one match.
07:55Beautiful.
07:56That was my prayer.
07:58Job will be over.
07:59Whether I get it or not.
08:00So if I look back.
08:02Playing for my country.
08:03For 125 times.
08:05More than once.
08:07More than once.
08:09You are a man.
08:11I am still saying.
08:13I should have played more.
08:15When you see.
08:17When I.
08:19When I look at my talent.
08:21All the performances.
08:23I have given.
08:25You think.
08:27Maybe I could have played more.
08:29For Pakistan.
08:31But Alhamdulillah.
08:33Sitting here.
08:35God has given me.
08:37Happiness is.
08:39That I have never.
08:41Made a bad name for my country.
08:43Wherever I went.
08:45Alhamdulillah.
08:47You have 19 performances.
08:49You never do well.
08:51But the respect.
08:53Integrity.
08:55With me.
08:57There is no bad.
08:59There is no incident.
09:01On which I can be accountable.
09:03Or can be said.
09:05So I think.
09:07That's a real achievement for me.
09:09For my family as well.
09:11You should be very proud of it my friend.
09:13Well done.
09:15With that we are going to take a break here on Cricket Kahani.
09:17When we come back.
09:19There is more with Sohail Tanveer.
09:21Stay with us.
09:23Welcome back to Cricket Kahani.
09:25I am Fakhr-e-Anam.
09:27And with me is Sohail Tanveer.
09:29Sohail we had a great conversation with you.
09:31You shared your journey.
09:33But let's start talking about.
09:35The beginning of the journey.
09:37Where did it start?
09:39When is your first earliest cricketing memory?
09:41Were you 5 or 6 years old?
09:43Did you see anyone playing?
09:45Where did it happen?
09:47Okay.
09:49The first memory.
09:51I have shared it quite a few times.
09:53I will share it again.
09:55My father took me to school.
09:57For admission.
09:59I think I was 4 and a half.
10:01It was a government school.
10:05The teachers were sitting on the chair.
10:09My father was sitting there next to him.
10:11I sat down there.
10:13The first thing I did.
10:15The boy sitting with me.
10:17I had a copy.
10:19I tore a paper from the copy.
10:21I rolled it.
10:23Made a ball.
10:25I told him to get me bowling.
10:27Where did you get the bat from?
10:29That was my bat.
10:31So.
10:33Basically.
10:35I was 4 and a half years old.
10:37The memory starts from there.
10:39That memory is of cricket.
10:41It was in my blood.
10:43Nice.
10:45May my grandfather go to heaven.
10:47Ameen.
10:49I used to say.
10:51When you sleep.
10:53Your hands move like a cricket.
10:55Sometimes like this.
10:57So you were probably dreaming about cricket all the time.
10:59Yes.
11:01That was the first ever.
11:03Did you face any resistance at home?
11:05A lot.
11:07My father was against it.
11:09I have worn shoes.
11:11I have ears.
11:13I have chickens.
11:15But it was my passion.
11:17What was the reason?
11:19See.
11:21Back in those days.
11:23Cricket was not a profession.
11:25You used to say.
11:27I play cricket.
11:29He used to say.
11:31You play cricket.
11:33What do you want to do?
11:35Nowadays.
11:37Because of the league.
11:39All over the world.
11:41Cricket has become a business.
11:43I am a father.
11:45I have 3 kids.
11:47I used to say.
11:49You are playing.
11:51It is your passion.
11:53In practical life.
11:55Not only cricket.
11:57There was a thinking.
11:59People go to the team.
12:01It is not a mindset.
12:03You hear.
12:05Rich kids go to the team.
12:07That was his mindset.
12:09That is why he used to stop.
12:11In the beginning.
12:13When I used to play.
12:15School.
12:17Matric.
12:19He used to say.
12:21Job.
12:23What do you want to do?
12:25In practical life.
12:27That is why he used to stop me.
12:29He used to resist.
12:31But when he saw.
12:33That the kid is not stopping.
12:35When I was 13.
12:3714.
12:39I was too good.
12:41In my surroundings.
12:43The stage we are on.
12:45We were too good.
12:47We were too good.
12:49When he got to know.
12:51That your kid is playing well.
12:53That really helped.
12:55He calmed down.
12:57Then he started supporting me.
12:59He hit me many times.
13:01Once.
13:03I was in 7th or 8th class.
13:05At that time.
13:07I had become a strong cricketer.
13:097th or 8th.
13:11I used to compete with elders.
13:13What happened.
13:15The flag of that area.
13:17At that time.
13:19There was their team.
13:21Big boys.
13:23They used to go to play.
13:25There are no tournaments in villages.
13:27They had to go to Chakwal.
13:29They told me.
13:31We will go in the morning.
13:33We will come back before Maghrib.
13:35It was okay before Maghrib.
13:37My deadline started after Maghrib.
13:39My father said not after that.
13:41We went there.
13:43I did not tell my family.
13:45I said I am going out of the city.
13:47I will not get permission.
13:49They took me.
13:51We went to Chakwal.
13:53There was a tournament.
13:55The tournament was cancelled.
13:57The tournament was cancelled.
13:59By the time we came back.
14:01It was after Maghrib.
14:03What happened.
14:05There was a lot of noise.
14:07The kid was missing.
14:09There were alarms in the mosques.
14:11The young boys who used to play with me.
14:13My brother was asking.
14:15Where did he go?
14:17When I came back.
14:19It was 9 in the night.
14:21There was a lot of noise.
14:23I came back.
14:25There was a lot of noise.
14:27I came back.
14:29I am not going to ask.
14:31What happened after coming back?
14:33There was a lot of noise.
14:35It was very irresponsible.
14:37What did your father say?
14:39Did he say anything?
14:41Did he say anything about his weapon?
14:43His weapon was always his shoes.
14:45His shoes were made of plastic.
14:47His weapon was always his shoes.
14:49He never used anything else.
14:51He always used his shoes.
14:53That was funny.
14:55If I think about it now.
14:57It was very irresponsible.
14:59That was his love for you.
15:01Of course.
15:03He was worried about his son.
15:05I am thinking about it now.
15:07He was right.
15:09He came back before Maghrib.
15:11I was 12 years old.
15:13I was 12 years old.
15:15It is a historical fact.
15:17Marwate are always friends.
15:19They disappear.
15:21They disappear.
15:23I know.
15:25I have been through that many times.
15:27I can understand.
15:29I really enjoyed my childhood.
15:31I feel proud.
15:33All that resistance.
15:35Hard work.
15:37All the resources from a middle class family.
15:39I made it.
15:41Yes you did.
15:43Well done my friend.
15:45I have a question.
15:47All the people I talk to.
15:49I talk to Waseem Akram.
15:51I talk to Kajun.
15:53Tape ball cricket has been a central character.
15:55I hear it again and again.
15:57Tape ball cricket.
15:59Tape ball cricket.
16:01How much exposure have you had with tape ball cricket?
16:03All the people who have played in Pakistan.
16:05I have played the most tape ball cricket in Pakistan.
16:07Okay.
16:09Even more than Haris Rauf.
16:11No way. Seriously?
16:13Yes.
16:15My main cricket table was
16:17hard ball cricket.
16:19Hard ball cricket.
16:21It is said that I used to play
16:23occasionally.
16:25Main source of income
16:27was tape ball cricket.
16:29I did not leave any place from Peshawar to Karachi
16:31where I did not play professional
16:33tape ball cricket.
16:35At that time we did not call it professional tape ball cricket.
16:37We used to say that it was brought by loan goons.
16:39Yes. Yes. Actually.
16:41People used to take me too.
16:43My fee was that you will feed me.
16:45If I win.
16:47At that time it was like that.
16:49But that's amazing. That's fantastic.
16:51I mean.
16:53At that time
16:55I did not play tape ball cricket.
16:57My aim was to play in Pakistan.
16:59That was my dream.
17:01My dream was to play in Pakistan.
17:03So I know what my destination is.
17:05But my path.
17:07My path.
17:09My track is going like this.
17:11Okay. If I ask you one thing.
17:13This is the story of
17:15tape ball cricket again and again.
17:17Whomever I talk to.
17:19Is the reason for playing
17:21tape ball cricket
17:23that it is easily accessible?
17:25There is no need for so much equipment.
17:27There is no need for so much money.
17:29You can play anywhere.
17:31You don't need a cricket ground.
17:33You can play in a small ground.
17:35Sometimes we have played on such roads
17:37where there was only an offside boundary.
17:39Like there was a house.
17:41It's out. You have to play here.
17:43Is that the reason why tape ball cricket is so big
17:45and that it automatically has become a nursery
17:47from where a lot of kids come out
17:49and then they go up into playing hardball cricket?
17:51Mainly I guess
17:53because there are no facilities.
17:55You don't have grounds.
17:57You summed it up very nicely.
17:59All the reasons you told
18:01are valid.
18:03This is your industry.
18:05Your grassroot level cricket
18:07is not club cricket.
18:09It is tape ball cricket.
18:11Tape ball cricket gives you cricketers.
18:13When the cricketer has developed
18:15then they go to club cricket
18:17and then from there they move on.
18:19Don't you think it would be more appropriate
18:21that we should actually also start
18:23investing more in tape ball cricket
18:25to structure a little bit more
18:27in tape ball cricket?
18:29I think we need to encourage
18:31tape ball cricket.
18:33We shouldn't discourage it.
18:35When I used to play table cricket
18:37at that time it was considered a crime.
18:39They used to call it tapia.
18:41This is tapia.
18:43When I made my first class debut
18:45they used to say
18:47where did you get tapia from?
18:49So we need a little
18:51understanding
18:53that your grassroot level cricket
18:55is not club cricket.
18:57Because not everyone has that facility.
18:59We are not a blessed country.
19:01I agree with you.
19:03You mainly have a lower middle class.
19:05Absolutely.
19:07A poor father who has
19:09a hard time paying for his household expenses
19:11cannot afford to pay
19:13club fees or club equipment.
19:15So where do kids play cricket?
19:17They play in the streets.
19:19When you play in the streets
19:21you don't feel like you have a place here.
19:23Then they move to club cricket
19:25and the club people come and buy it themselves.
19:27So I think we need to understand
19:29that we are not that kind of a nation.
19:31We don't have the facilities
19:33that are available in England.
19:35You know that there is ground in every
19:37county and every village.
19:39And there are fewer players.
19:41But in India it is totally different.
19:43So you have to plan
19:45according to your own resources.
19:47You have to look at the ground reality.
19:49So yes we need to understand
19:51that the main industry
19:53that cricket produces
19:55is table cricket.
19:57With that we are going to take a break here on Cricket Kahani.
19:59When we come back there is more with Sohail Tanveer. Stay with us.
20:05Welcome back to Cricket Kahani.
20:07I am Fakhr-e-Anam. We were talking to Sohail Tanveer.
20:09Before the break we were talking about how
20:11table cricket actually is the grass root
20:13cricket of Pakistan.
20:15And from there it continues to club cricket
20:17and onwards to first class cricket.
20:19You had a wrong-footed action.
20:21And I relate to that because
20:23even I have a completely wrong-footed action.
20:25You are telling this now.
20:27I am totally wrong-footed.
20:29And they say that because I am right-handed
20:31I am wrong-footed. So my gain comes in
20:33to the right-handed batsman.
20:35So the gain that was left straight
20:37would become a torment.
20:39I wanted to ask you
20:41was this also the reason
20:43that you were playing table?
20:45Nobody told you that this action
20:47is not right.
20:49And when you were so developed
20:51naturally that was your action.
20:53And then you just kept going with it.
20:55Look, I feel that
20:57it was a good thing that
20:59in club cricket, coaches
21:01or table cricket, if they
21:03would have tried to change it, I would have
21:05not been here or there. That's true.
21:07It was totally a natural thing.
21:09Whenever someone talks to me,
21:11I don't encourage the kids
21:13to develop this action.
21:15But if you try to change
21:17what is already there, it will never happen.
21:19So I was lucky enough that
21:21I kept playing table cricket.
21:23There is a very interesting story.
21:25In the beginning, I was a spin bowler.
21:27I played my...
21:29Even I played first-class cricket.
21:31Spin bowler? Suhail Tanveer, spin bowler?
21:33I used to be a left-arm spinner.
21:35Really? A proper left-arm spinner.
21:37When I started my career
21:39with cricket ball.
21:41I was a cutter bowler.
21:43I was a break bowler.
21:45Then after some time, I started playing sixes.
21:47So I said, no, I've done enough.
21:49I'll do it faster now.
21:51So I became a fast bowler in table ball.
21:53Gradually, when I built up a little,
21:55my height increased, I gained a little weight.
21:57So I became fast.
21:59But in cricket ball, I'm still a left-arm spinner.
22:01Till
22:032003-04,
22:05I was a left-arm spinner.
22:07Even I joined a department
22:09named A. Attak Rifani Limited.
22:11Grade 2 cricket
22:13as a left-arm spinner.
22:15I played cricket till there.
22:17When did my journey start with fast bowling?
22:21South Africa comes in 2004.
22:23Pakistan.
22:25I have a friend. At that time, Mr. Tauqeez Zia
22:27was the chairman. He was an ADC.
22:29He told me,
22:31we'll go to the Pakistan team's net
22:33as a net bowler.
22:35First, he took me to the South African net.
22:37He asked me, who is a fast bowler?
22:39I said, I'm Neha Kokobora.
22:41I saw Neha for the first time.
22:43I had no idea about my action.
22:45Because at that time, I didn't have a mobile phone.
22:47I had never seen my action.
22:49People used to say,
22:51that my action is very weird.
22:53I was like, what is weird?
22:55I also run 15 steps.
22:57I turn my arm.
22:59What is this?
23:01Because I had never seen it.
23:03Anyway, it started.
23:05Crane Smith was batting.
23:07He was fast.
23:09His action was like this.
23:11He didn't even know.
23:13The ball came from there.
23:15He hit it at a delicate place.
23:17He fell down.
23:19Jack Ellis comes.
23:21I remember his three bowls very well.
23:23Three bowls.
23:25I hit his first slip.
23:27It came out of my leg.
23:29I was throwing the ball.
23:31I had no idea about my swing.
23:33What is natural?
23:35I was throwing the ball.
23:37He was swinging.
23:39He was dancing.
23:41After Jack Ellis,
23:43his keeper Mark Boucher came.
23:45He took a new ball from me.
23:47I said, I don't want to play.
23:49He gave me an old ball.
23:51The old ball started to reverse.
23:53It was old.
23:55At that time,
23:57the idea was to shine one side.
23:59Like the tape ball.
24:01That was the idea.
24:03I came up with it.
24:05He was bowling with me.
24:07He asked me,
24:09why are you Pakistanis so good at reverse swing?
24:11I didn't know English at that time.
24:13He asked me how to do it.
24:15I said, shine one side.
24:17The ball will go
24:19in the direction it shines.
24:21Anyway,
24:23I took a cutted shot.
24:25I went to the Pakistani net.
24:27Javed and Rashid were captains at that time.
24:29I went to the net and bowled.
24:31The main batsmen were
24:33Razaq Bhai and Azhar Bhai.
24:35There was a commotion.
24:37Who is this?
24:39Who is this?
24:41Because of the habit of the tape ball,
24:43I bowled the ball straight.
24:45He asked me to set it like this.
24:47Then he asked me to bowl
24:49round the stem.
24:51Javed Bhai...
24:53Anyway, the net was over.
24:55Rashid Bhai told me
24:57if you want to play cricket,
24:59come to Karachi Academy.
25:03That was my turning point
25:05where I thought
25:07this is your fast bowling debut
25:09basically with a hard ball.
25:11Before this day,
25:13the day you did this,
25:15in the same ground,
25:17you bowled in the South African net
25:19and the Pakistani net.
25:21Before that, Sohail Tanveer
25:23was an orthodox left-hand spinner.
25:25He was a fast bowler.
25:27I used to bowl on the grass pitch.
25:29Because of my height,
25:31I used to bowl from the top.
25:33My hand used to come close to my ear
25:35like a proper left-hand spinner.
25:37That was the day when I thought
25:39that I should...
25:41There was a reason behind it
25:43because I used to go for trials.
25:45There were a lot of our seniors
25:47who were already playing
25:49in Pindi and KRL.
25:51Our Pindi department was there.
25:53There was no place for me.
25:55Every time there was a name
25:57for the final.
25:59I had to wait for 2-3 years.
26:01There was another reason
26:03behind my decision.
26:05Because you know,
26:07I used to play as a left-hand spinner
26:09on the grass pitch.
26:11There was no place for me.
26:13I said, I will just sit and wait.
26:15See, Allah takes you to that place
26:17when He has planned something for you.
26:19No doubt.
26:21I won't say that
26:23I took a decision.
26:25It came from Allah.
26:27My friend took me there.
26:29My fast bowling journey
26:31started in 2004.
26:33In 2007, I played in Pakistan.
26:35I was about to say that
26:37within 3 years,
26:39a person leaves the spin and
26:41does fast bowling.
26:43And after 3 years,
26:45he represents Pakistan
26:47in the World Cup
26:49Yes, sir.
26:51I am not able to
26:53explain it to you.
26:55I am telling you the details.
26:57I used to play
26:59table cricket
27:01all day long.
27:03I used to play
27:05single wickets
27:07with a bat set.
27:09I remember,
27:11I played 36 single wickets in a day.
27:1336 single wickets?
27:15I bowled 36 hours.
27:17Yeah, that's serious stuff.
27:1936 hours.
27:21A guy from Gujranwala
27:23came to play with me.
27:25He was very famous.
27:27He played first.
27:29He got tired.
27:31He said, I am tired.
27:33Someone else will bowl instead of me.
27:35I said, I don't mind.
27:37You bowl.
27:39I am alone.
27:41That's how I played 36.
27:43I am building this point
27:45in my muscle memory.
27:47This is very important.
27:49Very true.
27:51When I became a fast bowler
27:53in cricket,
27:55my muscle memory
27:57was built.
27:59I used to bowl a lot.
28:01I was never tired.
28:03I used to fight
28:05till the last breath.
28:07That's amazing.
28:09That really helped.
28:11When I became a fast bowler,
28:13it helped me a lot
28:15in terms of
28:17bowling long distances.
28:19Even in cricket,
28:21bowling till the last breath
28:23was a normal routine for me.
28:25You can ask
28:27the players of my badge
28:29to bowl till the last breath,
28:31especially on the first day.
28:33When the ball was swinging,
28:35I used to bowl till the last breath.
28:39I used to bowl till the last breath.
28:41There was no problem till the last breath.
28:43The longest I bowled,
28:45you won't believe,
28:47in 2008,
28:49when I dropped from the team
28:51in 2009,
28:53it was a first-class match.
28:55I went straight from Karachi
28:57to Mirpur.
29:01I bowled in the first inning.
29:03I bowled 27 on trot.
29:05I bowled 8 outs.
29:07I missed 4-5 catches.
29:09I bowled 2-3 on no-ball.
29:11Even after 8 outs,
29:13you bowled again.
29:15I missed 4-5 catches.
29:17I bowled 3 on no-ball.
29:19I bowled 8 outs in the first inning.
29:21I bowled 50 in the batting.
29:23In the second inning,
29:25I bowled 41 on trot.
29:27That was stupidity.
29:29I suffered because of that.
29:33When I used to bowl,
29:35I asked myself,
29:37how did this happen?
29:39I have that ball with me
29:41for 41 overs.
29:43I bowled 41 overs straight away.
29:45In the entire match,
29:47Saeed Ajmal was playing from one end.
29:49He asked me to stop bowling.
29:51I bowled 41 overs
29:53throughout the day.
29:55Out of just the anger and the grit,
29:57how did I get dropped?
29:59I took 7 wickets.
30:01In the entire match,
30:03I bowled 15-16 outs.
30:05I bowled like a machine.
30:09That's an amazing story.
30:11Thank you for sharing that with me.
30:13We're going to take a break here.
30:15When we come back,
30:17there's more on the other side.
30:19Stay with us, please.
30:21Welcome back from the break.
30:23I'm Fakhr-e-Anam.
30:25You're watching Cricket Kahani.
30:27With me, I have Suhail Tanveer.
30:29Suhail, you told a great story.
30:31You get dropped from the team.
30:33You even kept that ball.
30:35That's a good memory for your
30:37own self-determination and grit.
30:39I've done that.
30:41Suhail,
30:43tell me, you've played so many
30:45leagues around the world.
30:47You've played in the Indian Premier League,
30:49which is now banned for Pakistani players.
30:51Do you think Pakistani players
30:53are missing something by not playing IPL?
30:55Well, I think
30:57it's on both sides.
30:59IPL is missing Pakistani players.
31:01Being a player,
31:03I had that honour
31:05that I had the first
31:07purple cap of IPL.
31:09Yes, I remember.
31:11As a player, you want
31:13the biggest stage in league cricket,
31:15IPL is definitely one of the best.
31:17You have to admit it.
31:19You want to go there
31:21and celebrate yourself
31:23on that platform.
31:25Like Babur Azam, Shaheen,
31:27Rizwan, all your players.
31:29They want to go there
31:31and celebrate themselves
31:33in front of the Indian crowd.
31:35So, I think it's on both sides.
31:37The Indian crowd definitely missed it.
31:39Pakistani players went there.
31:41You know how much respect
31:43and love Pakistani players get
31:45there and how many fans
31:47are following them.
31:49So, I think it's on both sides.
31:51From a Pakistani point of view,
31:53definitely they're playing cricket.
31:55It's not like they're not getting cricket.
31:57They have established themselves.
31:59Babur is number one ODI batsman.
32:01But in that sense,
32:03if a Pakistani player
32:05gets a chance to prove himself
32:07in a big league, then why not?
32:09In PSL, you and Ben Cutting
32:11had an incident.
32:13What exactly happened?
32:15There were a lot of gestures.
32:17There was a lot of controversy.
32:21You were playing for Coeta Gladiators.
32:23Well, it started from CPL.
32:25I would say
32:27it was my mistake.
32:29It started because of me.
32:31What happened? Tell us.
32:33I was bowling to them
32:35and they hit me with a sixer.
32:37That's the anger of a fast bowler.
32:39When you're at the peak,
32:41you get angry.
32:43So, on the next ball,
32:45I hit them with a stick.
32:47Trust me,
32:49it's an unintentional thing.
32:51You think
32:53you did it on purpose.
32:57It was an unintentional gesture.
33:01The moment I showed it,
33:03I realized that
33:05I did it on purpose.
33:07But it was captured in the camera.
33:11So, I felt bad.
33:13Straight away, I felt bad.
33:15It shouldn't have happened.
33:17The next morning,
33:19we stayed at the same hotel.
33:21I met him for breakfast.
33:23I went to him.
33:25I apologized.
33:27I said it was wrong.
33:29It was totally unintentional.
33:31It happened out of anger.
33:35What did he say when you apologized?
33:37I don't know.
33:39I don't know if he understood
33:41that I was apologizing
33:43for that incident.
33:45I don't know.
33:47Four years passed.
33:49He came in front of me.
33:51But he didn't get a chance.
33:53In fact, I outed him
33:55in Multan.
33:59But it vanished from my mind.
34:01It wasn't in the back of my mind.
34:03It was over.
34:05Since that day came,
34:07he got a chance.
34:09And he
34:11hit me four times.
34:13He took revenge.
34:15He hit me twice.
34:17I followed that gesture.
34:19I went to him.
34:21I apologized to him.
34:23But you kept it in your heart
34:25that it was your right
34:27to take revenge.
34:29You took it.
34:31I apologized once.
34:33He hit me twice.
34:35He hit me four times in total.
34:37He again did that.
34:39It hit me.
34:41It happened once.
34:43I apologized once.
34:45You apologized once.
34:47Let's move on.
34:49I apologized to you.
34:51It hit me.
34:53Luckily,
34:55I got a chance
34:57the next hour.
34:59I took revenge again.
35:01I don't regret that.
35:03Honestly,
35:05I won't say
35:07it was a good thing.
35:09I will tell youngsters to control their anger.
35:11But on that time,
35:13what he did the second time
35:15was a bit unfair.
35:17It happened once.
35:19It was even.
35:21I am surprised that
35:23he kept it in his heart for four years.
35:25He did it four years later.
35:27You apologized to him.
35:29Yes, I did.
35:31I am already feeling bad.
35:33You know,
35:35he is married.
35:37I have a good friend.
35:39I met her in USA.
35:41She takes it as fun.
35:43She said,
35:45you wait for your time and take revenge.
35:47I said, no.
35:49I am worried about my friend.
35:51A person can keep it in his heart
35:53for four years.
35:55Now I am worried about Aaron.
35:57It's okay.
35:59It was a nice episode.
36:01Cricket is on the field.
36:03I know.
36:05Suhail,
36:07going towards the end,
36:09you told us a great story
36:11in the journey of every person.
36:13It was a great journey.
36:15How did you become a fast bowler for the first time?
36:17It's great to hear that story.
36:19I want to ask you this
36:21final question.
36:23In every journey,
36:25in every person's life,
36:27there is something
36:29that breaks him
36:31from inside or hurts him badly.
36:33What has been
36:35your story?
36:37Obviously,
36:39in such a journey,
36:41if there are no hiccups
36:43or moments,
36:45it is not possible.
36:47I also have such moments.
36:49I felt broken.
36:51I cried.
36:53First of all,
36:55in 2009,
36:57I went for surgery.
36:59That was the most difficult
37:01time of my life.
37:03I went for surgery.
37:05At that time,
37:07I was 23 years old.
37:09My career had just started.
37:11I was going to my peak.
37:13I made a record in the IPL.
37:15I played very well in the World Cup.
37:17I was doing really well for Pakistan.
37:19Suddenly,
37:21a time came
37:23when I had a knee cartilage issue.
37:27When I was sent to Australia
37:29for surgery,
37:31I am thankful to the Cricket Board
37:33for organising the surgery.
37:35Mr. Ijaz Butt was the chairman.
37:37I thought,
37:39I will go there happily.
37:41I was like that.
37:43I thought,
37:45I will go there happily
37:47and then I will start playing cricket.
37:49I did not have the knowledge.
37:51I did not have the knowledge
37:53about the surgery.
37:55When I went there,
37:57the doctor told me
37:59about the process.
38:01The damage is such that
38:03I cannot tell you whether it will be
38:05arthroscopy.
38:07The other option is
38:09to go for open surgery
38:11where your knee is removed.
38:13So,
38:15in the name of Allah,
38:17he gave me anesthesia.
38:19I was knocked out.
38:21When I woke up,
38:23my world had turned upside down.
38:25Seriously,
38:27it was so painful
38:29that
38:31if I had an idea,
38:33you would have got an idea
38:35that how passionate I am about cricket.
38:37How passionate I was.
38:39The pain was such that
38:41if I was given an option
38:43to quit cricket,
38:45I would have preferred to quit.
38:47It was such a painful process
38:49that when I came back
38:51after the surgery,
38:53my knee was so swollen
38:55that it was cut.
38:57I had 32 stitches
38:59on my knee.
39:05I was in the hospital
39:07for two days.
39:09I was all alone.
39:11I was a 23-24 years old
39:13kid.
39:17There was nobody there to
39:19look after me.
39:21More than that,
39:23you need someone who can
39:25look after you.
39:27I was not prepared for that.
39:29I told you about my mindset.
39:31I would go and come back.
39:33I would start playing cricket
39:35as soon as I came back.
39:37That was my mindset.
39:41In two days,
39:43they gave me 72 painkillers.
39:45Imagine the intensity
39:47of that pain.
39:49In those two days,
39:51I don't remember
39:53getting more than 15 minutes
39:55of sleep in a month.
39:57I would get sleep during
39:59breaks because of the pain.
40:01I would move a little.
40:03The pain would be throughout.
40:05But if I would move a little,
40:07I would not be able to sleep.
40:09So, your spirit was broken,
40:11completely shattered.
40:13At that time,
40:15I was on crutches for a month.
40:17At that time, I felt
40:19that I would not be able to
40:21walk properly again.
40:23I can't describe in words.
40:25It's very difficult.
40:27But,
40:29maybe my mental toughness
40:31helped me.
40:33Without that,
40:35that wouldn't be possible,
40:37to be honest.
40:39If it was someone else,
40:41I have seen Shoaib bhai
40:43surviving, playing
40:45cricket in pain.
40:47If it wasn't more than him,
40:49it wasn't less.
40:51It was very difficult.
40:53I know how I
40:55played cricket after that.
40:57After surgery,
40:59surgery is important.
41:01But, the most important thing is
41:03rehab after surgery, post surgery.
41:05Dr. Young,
41:07who is an Australian,
41:09told me that
41:11you have to start your rehab
41:13after 2-3 days.
41:15Rehab starts.
41:17I came from there.
41:19I stayed in Australia for 7 days.
41:21Luckily, I made a friend there.
41:23His name is Mehfooz.
41:27He took me to his house.
41:29He asked me how I would stay here
41:31in a hotel.
41:33Even going to the washroom,
41:35I understood.
41:37My leg was totally stiff.
41:39It wasn't moving at all.
41:41He took me to his house.
41:43I stayed there for 7 days.
41:45I came back after a week.
41:47I went home.
41:49I was lying at home.
41:51The doctor told me
41:53that I should start my rehab.
41:55I didn't have much knowledge.
41:57Even the people
41:59in the cricket board
42:01didn't have much knowledge
42:03about how to rehab
42:05post surgery.
42:07I think that
42:09really hurt
42:11my whole career.
42:13Because of that,
42:15I struggled for the rest
42:17of my career.
42:19I played cricket
42:21due to toughness.
42:23Thank you Sohail Tanvi
42:25for sharing your beautiful story
42:27with us. We wish you all the best.
42:29Let's see where we
42:31meet again in the future.
42:33Right on. Take care my friend.
42:35Thanks for having me.
42:37This was Sohail Tanvi right here on Cricket Kahani.
42:39I am Fakhr-e-Alam and you are watching
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42:43Khuda Hafiz.

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