Fitbaw Talk: Livingston say goodbye to Scottish Premiership
After previewing the Old Firm derby, Martyn, Lewis and Ben look to Scotland's SPFL play-offs.
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00:02 - Hello and welcome to National World Football Talk,
00:09 your nan's favorite football podcast, Ken.
00:12 It's a show where we break down the latest news and results
00:15 from the Scottish Premiership and around the SPFL.
00:18 I'm your host, Martin Simpson,
00:19 joined once again by Ben Banks and Lewis Anderson.
00:22 We're gonna be previewing this weekend's Old Firm Derby.
00:25 We're also gonna be discussing the SPFL playoffs
00:28 and Livingston's relegation from the Premiership.
00:31 So guys, big match this weekend, the Old Firm Derby,
00:34 the Glasgow Derby, if you have a certain da persuasion.
00:38 What are we thinking about this one?
00:41 This is obviously the biggest one of the season so far.
00:46 Lewis, are we at the stage where we can say
00:50 anything other than a win is gonna be
00:52 pretty disastrous for Rangers?
00:55 - I think that's exactly right, Martin.
00:57 I think we're at that stage now.
00:59 The position that Rangers find themselves in,
01:03 of course, now three points behind.
01:06 It was, albeit six briefly there.
01:09 After Celtics convincing win against Hearts at the weekend,
01:13 Rangers kind of limped across the lane,
01:14 I thought, against Kilmarnock on Sunday.
01:16 And yeah, I think they need to go there and win now.
01:21 It's as simple as that.
01:22 I think it's gonna be obviously a hugely difficult task,
01:27 I think, personally for Philippe Comonte and his players
01:30 to go to Celtic Park, given the way they've started
01:34 recent Derby matches, particularly at Celtic Park,
01:38 over the last couple of visits, hasn't been good at all.
01:42 I think, obviously, they need to try and find a way
01:45 that they can really get at Celtic from the get-go.
01:48 They seem to have a bit of an issue at the moment
01:52 conceding the first goal as well.
01:54 It's been numerous occasions over the last couple
01:57 of months now that they've fallen behind
01:58 and had to do things the hard way.
02:01 I don't think they can afford to do that this weekend
02:04 because if Celtic were to score first,
02:06 I don't see Rangers coming from behind
02:10 and taking maximum points.
02:13 - How do you think Celtic are gonna approach this game, Ben?
02:15 Obviously, I think, I mean, when a point,
02:19 I mean, they're at home, so they're obviously not gonna play
02:21 for a point, but if they did come away with a point
02:24 from that match, probably not the worst result
02:26 in the world for them, probably quite a decent result
02:29 given the way the table's looking.
02:31 - Yeah, I think Celtic, I think for Rangers,
02:33 it's probably a must win, whereas Celtic is probably
02:37 a bit more must not lose in terms of the draw.
02:40 You would expect they would probably beat,
02:42 I mean, the two teams that are gonna play
02:44 in the following games, a Comarnac side at home
02:46 who have already secured European football
02:48 and their objectives done, and against a St. Marins side
02:51 who probably have done the same on the final day
02:53 of the season.
02:54 So you would expect them to pick up maximum points
02:57 in those games.
02:58 So I do think it does come down to Saturday.
03:01 I think Celtic are also hitting form at the right time.
03:04 The Celtic team has been criticized throughout the season,
03:07 but Brendan Rodgers has said throughout it,
03:09 this is gonna be, we write the narrative,
03:11 and he's kinda gonna be proven right
03:13 if Saturday goes his way.
03:15 And I think as well with him, I think you've seen that
03:18 at the start of the season, to me anyway,
03:19 it looked like he was going through the motions a wee bit,
03:22 whereas now you're hearing all the sort of weird dad jokes
03:26 and things like that are coming out again,
03:27 the smug remarks that it was sort of known for
03:31 the first time.
03:32 And I'm not saying that as a bad thing.
03:34 I mean, if I was a fan of Celtic,
03:35 then I'd love my manager to be like that
03:37 and just being totally arrogant and being a total twat,
03:40 really.
03:41 I mean, I think it's quite funny to watch,
03:42 and it's obviously a great theater for us in the media.
03:44 So yeah, I think everyone just seems to be clicking
03:48 right now for Celtic.
03:49 Kind of almost, it's almost like a total contrast
03:52 to what it was like a few weeks ago
03:53 going into the Ibrox one.
03:54 I think all the momentum was with Rangers.
03:56 I was just expecting Rangers were gonna win that game
03:58 two or three nothing and take charge a little bit,
04:00 whereas now I think the tables have turned.
04:03 I think people are expecting Celtic to win on Saturday
04:07 and then just win the title from there.
04:09 - None of us have a crystal ball, Lewis,
04:12 but Rangers would need a three nil win
04:16 to go top of the league.
04:18 First off, can you see that?
04:20 Can you see Rangers going Celtic Park
04:22 and winning three nil at the moment?
04:24 - No, no, no, absolutely not, Mark.
04:26 No, I can't see them scoring three goals at Celtic Park.
04:31 I know they put four past Kilmarnock at the weekend there,
04:35 but Celtic, obviously a different caliber of team.
04:39 And as you said, I mean, I wouldn't put money on Rangers
04:43 scoring three goals in an all firm game at all
04:47 at this moment in time.
04:48 I really wouldn't.
04:49 The way they're playing,
04:50 I don't think this team is up to it.
04:54 Again, if they do win,
04:59 it's gonna be very marginal this weekend,
05:02 but no, I can't see them scoring more than three
05:07 at Celtic Park.
05:09 - Yeah, so in the interest of prolonging
05:11 the sort of debate in the season,
05:13 say they do win, they go level on points,
05:15 Celtic will have a better goal difference
05:18 that will be narrow,
05:20 depending on how much Rangers win,
05:23 but it could be just one or two goals.
05:25 Ben used the word momentum earlier,
05:27 that that would probably be the other most crucial thing
05:31 after the three points is that it would probably
05:33 shift the momentum to Rangers
05:35 and put more of the pressure on Celtic, do you think?
05:38 - I'll take that.
05:40 I mean, I think it probably would.
05:42 The thing, I just can't see it, though.
05:45 I think you are right in what you're saying,
05:47 like Kilmarnock especially away for Celtic
05:49 and for Rangers this season.
05:50 Rangers have lost at Rugby Park as well,
05:52 but Celtic have lost twice there in the League Cup
05:55 and then the League in the Drewy Kilmarnock at Parkhead.
05:58 So that fixture has got all the hallmarks
06:01 if Saturday goes wrong to be a real banana skin type game,
06:05 because Kilmarnock seem to have been that team this season
06:07 who worked out fully how he sort of play
06:10 against the old firm, probably alongside Harch.
06:13 So I think it probably would,
06:15 but I still think Celtic are in a,
06:17 well, it would be even if Rangers win,
06:19 I think Celtic are still in the stronger position
06:20 because then you're then relying on,
06:23 I think when it comes down to these two games,
06:25 it then becomes a question of who is more likely
06:27 to draw points against the provincial teams.
06:29 And I think even though Rangers won 4-1 on Sunday,
06:33 that wasn't, and it's a cliche,
06:34 but it wasn't a 4-1 game up until the red card.
06:36 And even after the red card,
06:38 it took Rangers a long time to get going.
06:40 Whereas I just don't see Celtic steamrolled Harch
06:43 and it could have been five or six.
06:44 So I think that is a factor in that Rangers
06:47 could probably win on Saturday,
06:50 but the momentum still stays with Celtic
06:51 and that they still have the upper hand.
06:54 - We could, a Rangers win could put us
06:56 into this fascinating hypothetical scenario, I find, Lewis.
07:00 We actually saw it on the final day
07:02 of the Highland League season
07:04 where only goal difference was separating
07:06 Bucky and Breakin'.
07:08 And it makes me wonder if Rangers just hypothetically
07:12 did manage to get a 1-0 win or a 2-1 win
07:15 or whatever at Celtic Park.
07:17 Their next game, Celtic travel to Kilmarnock,
07:21 Rangers are at home to Dundee.
07:23 If you're Felipe Clement,
07:25 what are you thinking in your head?
07:26 Are you thinking, with full respect to Dundee, obviously,
07:30 because it's not a granted, Rangers will be heavy favorites,
07:33 but it's not a granted that they're gonna win that match.
07:36 Are you thinking, get the three points in the bag,
07:38 get it delivered, let's see what happens at Rugby Park
07:42 or are you thinking, we're at home, Celtic are away,
07:47 do we maybe want to come flying out the traps,
07:52 try and rack up a few early goals,
07:54 really kind of attack from the off?
07:56 With obviously implied risk there being that Dundee,
08:01 who are very likely to sit in at Ibrox,
08:04 are fully capable of hitting you on the counter
08:06 and then suddenly a bad situation becomes a lot worse.
08:10 What do you think?
08:11 What would your mindset be
08:12 and what do you think Felipe Clement will be?
08:15 I don't think Felipe Clement will be particularly worried
08:18 about what Celtic do.
08:19 I think he's kind of made that clear.
08:22 Even when they went through that kind of sticky spell recently
08:25 when they obviously lost to Ross County
08:27 and drew with Dundee,
08:29 he came out after that game and was asked about
08:31 where that left them in the title race.
08:34 And he's very dismissive of claims that Celtic would,
08:40 that the momentum was with them.
08:42 I think his mindset will be a case of,
08:44 let's try and take care of business this weekend
08:47 at Celtic Park and then go and rack up the goals.
08:50 As you said, against Dundee, they've got hearts.
08:51 So then at Tyne Castle on the final day of the season,
08:54 obviously their record against hearts
08:55 has been brilliant in recent times.
08:59 So they'll fancy their chances
09:01 of certainly winning those last two games.
09:04 You'd look at the Dundee game at home and say to yourself,
09:08 that's another huge opportunity to hopefully,
09:12 from a Rangers point of view,
09:15 as you said, get some early goals,
09:18 give them that kind of bit of momentum that they really need.
09:23 My biggest concern at this moment in time with Rangers
09:27 over the last couple of weeks,
09:28 I haven't seen them up close,
09:30 is that they're lacking huge creativity
09:36 in the final third ideas.
09:39 I thought they were very,
09:42 particularly in the first half there,
09:46 even with Komanic going down to 10 men at the weekend,
09:49 they really struggled, as Ben alluded to, to get going.
09:53 It wasn't until kind of a rocket from Clement at halftime
09:56 that came out a totally different team.
09:58 - Lewis said there that, obviously publicly,
10:03 Philippe Clement's gonna say,
10:05 I'm not thinking about Celtic, we're just thinking about us,
10:08 but we all know here that surely you're not that naive.
10:11 If they, Ben, if they get a narrow win at Celtic Park,
10:14 he must be of the mindset that they need to try
10:17 and put Dundee to the sword at Ibrox,
10:20 knowing that the league could potentially,
10:21 in that scenario, be decided on goal difference.
10:24 - I mean, he is thinking about Celtic.
10:26 He totally bet on Brendan Rodgers' comment.
10:28 Brendan Rodgers threw him a line on Saturday
10:30 and he gobbled it up by the full,
10:33 let's have a bit of fun type stuff.
10:35 Look, that was the one thing I did,
10:37 that's the first time I've thought
10:38 we could want that's a bit strange,
10:40 'cause his big thing has been,
10:42 focus is on Rangers, we don't talk about anybody else.
10:44 And then he was talking about his direct rival
10:48 and saying about, you know,
10:50 disrespectful towards my team and things of that nature.
10:53 So I think, you know, I think he's now starting
10:57 to maybe feel the pressure a little bit,
10:59 and it will be ramped up pretty heavily on Saturday,
11:03 'cause I get the feeling Celtic are, you know,
11:05 sort of saying, almost come ahead,
11:07 whereas I get the feeling Rangers fans,
11:08 and the feeling I get from them is, you know,
11:10 they're a bit hesitant towards Saturday now.
11:13 - Just finally, before we take our break,
11:15 score predictions, Lewis.
11:17 - 1-1.
11:21 - Ben? - Sitting on the fence, Martin.
11:23 - No, I will come off the fence and say 3-0 Celtic.
11:27 - Do you know what?
11:28 - I think Celtic will, I think if Celtic will score early,
11:31 then I don't think Rangers will be able to handle it.
11:33 - Well, I'm gonna give us a trifecta.
11:35 I'm gonna go for what I want to see happen,
11:38 not what I think's gonna happen.
11:40 I'm gonna go 2-1 Rangers.
11:42 That's not me taking a side or being a fan.
11:44 I just want to see the title race go down
11:46 to helicopter Sunday, because it's great as a neutral.
11:49 So I'm gonna go 2-1 Rangers, and we'll see how we get on.
11:54 We're gonna take a short break now,
11:55 but we'll be right back.
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12:01 Welcome back.
12:08 So we've now got a clear picture of how the,
12:12 well, how 90% of the playoffs are gonna look.
12:14 We still need to wait and see who is gonna finish 11th
12:17 in the premiership.
12:19 But first of all, we know the teams for certain
12:22 that are going down, and the biggest one obviously
12:25 is Livingston, our exit in the premiership.
12:28 It's been a, you can call it a fall from grace.
12:32 I mean, obviously Livingston hit some real heights
12:34 in their time in the top flight bend,
12:36 but overall, we do have to remember
12:39 that they always were punching above their weight.
12:41 And yeah, I mean, what do you think?
12:44 I mean, nobody's surprised that Livingston are going down
12:47 after the season they've had.
12:49 - Yeah, it's not so much a fall from grace
12:51 as a fall back to reality.
12:52 I think Livingston's level is at middle
12:55 of the table championship club.
12:57 I mean, I don't know how many times you guys
12:59 or sort of people watching, listening to this
13:01 have been to Livingston, but their home gates are,
13:03 you know, you're talking close to probably about a thousand.
13:06 It's similar to actually Hamilton Ackies,
13:08 sort of what the level they were at in the premiership
13:11 in terms of the budget, in terms of the fan base,
13:13 the type of players they could attract.
13:15 The Plastic Park is a total factor
13:16 because players don't want to play in the Plastic Park.
13:19 I was there on Saturday and I likened it to,
13:22 it was almost like Muddle were playing
13:23 in like a Scottish Cup fourth round tie
13:25 against a lower league club.
13:26 They look, Livingston just looked totally down and out,
13:31 you know, conceded defeat and waved the white flag.
13:33 And I think Davey Martindale said as much
13:35 in the post-match presser and that he'd been planning
13:37 for this reality since January type time.
13:40 So I think there's been a lot of boardroom type
13:43 behind the scenes battling going on at Livingston as well,
13:46 which has hampered the budget even further.
13:49 So, and you know, you even had even,
13:52 I think the fingers will start to get pointed
13:53 at Davey Martindale a wee bit for that season
13:55 by Livingston fans, 'cause I mean, you had the full thing
13:57 and throughout the full summer,
13:59 the best player, Joel Newbly, technically anyway,
14:01 basically at every press conference,
14:03 he's gonna be sold for this, he's gonna be sold for that.
14:05 And then he stayed there and the header he scored
14:07 at four nothing down on Saturday.
14:10 I suppose that kind of epitomized the season.
14:12 Their best striker at four nothing down
14:14 when they were already relegated,
14:15 scored a header for his first goal of the season.
14:18 That kind of summed it up really.
14:21 So it's a shame to see Livingston go down.
14:23 I think they've been well worth their stay
14:26 in the premiership.
14:27 I know people maybe say about their fan base
14:28 that they're not a premiership club.
14:30 They've been well worth their money in the premiership.
14:31 They've put far more into it than some other clubs have.
14:34 And, but I think it will be really difficult
14:37 for them in the championship.
14:38 They've not got the money like Hearts,
14:39 Dundee United, Hibbs, Rangers had to throw it.
14:43 What they need, I think, make sure doesn't happen
14:45 is they go the way of Hamilton,
14:46 which is they go down to League One
14:48 and they potentially are then stuck there
14:51 for an indefinite amount of time.
14:53 'Cause we've obviously just seen Falkirk
14:54 coming up this weekend as well.
14:56 And they were down there for a long time with a big budget.
14:59 So Livingston need to make sure they don't go that way.
15:02 - Where do you stand on that debate, Lewis?
15:04 I don't want to kick anyone when they're down,
15:07 but Ben said that they've brought more to the premiership
15:11 than they took out of it.
15:11 And Livingston have had some great, great memories
15:15 in the top flight in recent years and fair play to them.
15:19 I fully believe that this idea that some teams
15:22 are of a higher or lower stature
15:24 than the league they compete in,
15:26 looking at like Falkirk in League One
15:28 or Livingston or a Hamilton Ake's in the premiership.
15:31 Listen, it's sport, it's competitive.
15:33 You're where you are on merits,
15:35 but is anyone, without trying to sound too disrespectful,
15:39 is anyone going to miss Livingston?
15:41 Is anyone going to miss the small gates,
15:44 the seeing them on TV where three quarters
15:47 of their home stadiums been given to away fans,
15:51 plastic pitch?
15:52 And then you look at like, again, I'm not,
15:57 clubs are where they are on merit,
15:58 but you've got a club like Rafe Rovers, for example,
16:01 who are going to be fighting
16:02 to come out of the championship, a proper,
16:05 well, proper's not the right word.
16:07 Livingston are a proper club as well,
16:08 but a club with a big fan base,
16:10 a club with a lot of history, steeped in tradition.
16:15 Is anyone really going to be sad to see Livingston
16:18 leave the premiership?
16:20 - No, I don't think so.
16:22 Martin, I think that's a fair point.
16:24 Yeah, you've mentioned various factors.
16:27 I think the plastic pitch is an interesting one.
16:28 Obviously, we've done the United coming up
16:31 and Kilmarnock going to be tearing up their plastic pitch.
16:33 It'll be a back to old grass pitches
16:35 in the top flight again going forward,
16:38 which I think majority of fans will be delighted
16:41 that that is the case.
16:44 - No, I think, as you said,
16:46 I think Martin Dale deserves plenty of applauded
16:49 for the job he did there.
16:50 Obviously, did he mention the budget at all
16:53 this season, earlier this season?
16:54 I can't remember him really speaking about it now.
16:57 Yeah, it's a tremendous achievement
17:00 given the limited resources
17:02 and an incredibly good eye for a player as well.
17:05 He proved that over the years.
17:07 And you know, they had them challenging for top six,
17:11 you know, for a team like Livingston.
17:13 It's similar to Dundee finishing in the top six this season,
17:16 you know, an incredible achievement.
17:20 Eventually, you know, time is going to catch up with them.
17:24 And, you know, sadly for them this season,
17:27 that kind of demise was kind of written on the wall
17:31 from a relatively early stage, you could say.
17:34 It was certainly, as Ben said there,
17:39 I don't think many fans will be disappointed
17:43 to see them drop down a level.
17:44 - Well, let's look at the rest of the playoffs.
17:50 Obviously, we know that Ivar probably at this stage,
17:54 it's almost certainly going to be either St. Johnstone
17:57 or Ross County, if not mathematically confirmed,
18:00 it is almost certainly going to be one of those two
18:02 that faces either Rafe, Airdrie or Partick Fissel
18:07 in the Premiership playoffs.
18:08 Let's come back to that.
18:10 Let's just look further down the divisions,
18:12 just quick fire guys as we get through them.
18:15 Lewis, East Kilbride against Stranraer.
18:19 For viewers that don't know Lewis,
18:22 you live in East Kilbride.
18:24 What's the atmosphere around the town like?
18:27 Is it quite exciting?
18:28 People quite fancying their shot of getting their team
18:31 up into the SPFL?
18:33 - Yeah, I think so, Martin.
18:35 I think there's been a real buzz around the place.
18:37 Obviously, they've had to wait a bit longer
18:40 than they maybe anticipated,
18:41 given that they were supposed to be playing Bucky Fissel.
18:44 We all know the circumstances around that.
18:47 So yeah, I think East Kilbride have invested a lot of money
18:52 into their playing squad over the last couple of years.
18:55 They've won the Lone League on a couple of occasions,
18:57 missed out on the playoffs before.
18:59 So I feel as though it's just speaking to a couple
19:01 of local supporters that over the last week or so
19:06 that there is a real excitement there.
19:08 They think their time is now, that they will come up.
19:13 I think there's certainly,
19:15 the squad that Michael Kennedy's assembled there
19:18 is certainly good enough to be playing
19:21 in the senior divisions.
19:23 - Looking at League Two, Ben,
19:26 to me, I'd say out of all the playoffs,
19:28 this is probably the tightest,
19:29 probably the hardest to call.
19:31 I don't think there's a lot between any of the teams.
19:33 And the thing that strikes me is that none of them
19:36 are going into it in particularly good form.
19:39 Obviously you wouldn't expect the team
19:40 that finishes ninth in League One to be in good form,
19:43 but none of the playoff teams in League Two
19:47 are in that good form.
19:47 Did any one of those sides jump out at you
19:50 as favorites from those four?
19:53 - I think Sterling Albion beat Dumbarton.
19:55 I'm a bit unsure about Stevie Farrell's sort of credentials
19:59 when it gets to this time of the season.
20:01 They've lost a few games sort of under him.
20:04 And I don't think Dumbarton fans have ever been fully
20:06 on board with him 'cause he was the guy who took them down.
20:09 And I just get the feeling that they,
20:13 in terms of the big game credentials at this stage,
20:16 maybe fall short in Sterling Albion in a weird one as well.
20:18 They started the League One season like house on fire
20:21 and then just completely tailed away towards the end
20:23 to such an extent,
20:24 they obviously got into the last day shootout
20:26 with Anand.
20:28 I think it'd be a great story to see Spartans
20:31 going into League One.
20:33 I think their rise, I think their...
20:35 I think there's always been a bit of a...
20:36 - Especially with the demise of Edinburgh City too.
20:38 - Yeah, I think...
20:40 Yeah.
20:41 'Cause I think with Spartans,
20:45 with some of the clubs that have came up
20:46 through the Lowland League,
20:47 I think even Edinburgh City,
20:49 East Kilbride would definitely fall into this category of,
20:51 they almost feel a bit manufactured.
20:53 They feel a bit like they're not proper traditional clubs.
20:56 I think you've seen Bonnyrig getting introduced
20:58 into the league with a real warmth
21:00 because New Dundas Park is a proper old school ground.
21:03 Yes, the park is absolutely terrible,
21:05 but it's proper, it's just...
21:08 It's a flashback to times past.
21:11 And Spartans have got a really good community set up.
21:13 They're a lot more than just the...
21:16 I know a lot of clubs say this,
21:18 but Spartans actually do.
21:19 The more they are,
21:20 more than just the three o'clock on Saturday,
21:21 they've got a massive youth academy set up.
21:23 The set up at Ainslie Park's been really good
21:26 from the times I've been down there.
21:27 And obviously Dougie Samuels,
21:29 one of the longevity in football these days
21:31 is a relic and he is certainly
21:36 going against the grain in that form.
21:37 - Speaking of League One, Lewis,
21:39 what are we thinking in those playoffs?
21:41 Again, as you expect, the playoffs incredibly tight.
21:45 Montrose-Hamilton, Allo-One, Inverness.
21:47 I think we know that relegation to League One
21:50 has the potential to be disastrous for Cali Fiscal.
21:54 Allo themselves could be dark horses.
21:56 Montrose, they're in the playoffs pretty much every year,
22:00 if not every other year.
22:01 Is this finally the year they do it?
22:02 What are you thinking?
22:03 - I think that's actually a really good point
22:07 about Montrose.
22:08 I think Stuart Petrie deserves huge credit there
22:11 and consistently getting them into the playoff positions.
22:14 And, you know, albeit they've fallen short
22:16 over the last couple of seasons,
22:19 I think they've got a huge chance against Inverness.
22:21 I think this is a really poor Inverness team.
22:25 Obviously Duncan Ferguson in there
22:27 will be desperate to avoid, you know,
22:32 kind of casting a real gray cloud
22:33 over his managerial credentials.
22:36 And at such an early stage,
22:38 you'll be desperate to keep Inverness in the championship.
22:42 Again, similar to Livingston's position
22:46 that Ben alluded to in terms of, you know, Inverness,
22:49 they're in this position now
22:52 where they could become a fall Kirk.
22:54 You know, it's, they did so well to kind of be
22:58 in the higher tiers for so long,
23:01 but now in a kind of real state of disarray.
23:06 - We'll come back to the premiership playoffs
23:09 probably next on next week's show, if not a later date,
23:11 but just before we go, we're almost out of time, Ben.
23:14 So real quickly, Airdrie against Partick Fissel,
23:17 who do you fancy for that and why?
23:19 - Airdrie to win the, I'll go one further.
23:23 Airdrie will beat Partick Fissel fairly comfortably,
23:25 really like Reece McCabe's style of play.
23:27 They will also beat Wraith Rovers
23:28 because I don't, I like Ian Murray as a manager.
23:31 I think he struggled in these sort of playoff games
23:33 with Airdrie, and then I think Airdrie
23:35 will also beat Ross County, Urston-Johnson.
23:36 They'll be playing premiership football next season.
23:39 - Big call.
23:40 That's all we've got time for on this week's show.
23:42 Thanks very much.
23:43 We'll be back next week with more FIPA Talk.
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