"Saya Bukanlah Pelakon Filem, Tetapi Pelakon TV" - Sofia Jane
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00:00:13 Hi, Assalamualaikum, very good afternoon, evening.
00:00:18 Those who watched yesterday, good night.
00:00:21 Back again in Borat Celebrity with us, we have the same face.
00:00:25 I'm Falik.
00:00:25 My name is Dina Nazir.
00:00:27 Why are you opening with English?
00:00:28 Because today we have some special guest.
00:00:32 Okay, some.
00:00:34 Then?
00:00:35 A special guest which is Mixed Blood.
00:00:39 You know Mixed Blood?
00:00:41 Okay, I know.
00:00:44 Tell me, I want to see how he goes.
00:00:46 Okay.
00:00:47 Just speak Malay.
00:00:49 Okay, every week we will bring you a special guest this week, Dina.
00:00:54 A very special figure.
00:00:57 An artist that I know at a very young age.
00:01:02 I've known him since I was 19 years old.
00:01:04 But the best part is, he was the one who was waiting for me.
00:01:07 I still remember backstage, he was the one who was waiting for me.
00:01:10 And he was very friendly.
00:01:12 When I was 19 years old, I saw him and I was like, "Ahh."
00:01:16 Okay, your turn.
00:01:17 We've been looking for him for a long time.
00:01:19 He is the one we're talking about.
00:01:20 Datin Sofia Jain.
00:01:22 If you only knew, what I want, I want you.
00:01:30 Black, I love you.
00:01:32 Datin, do you know the song?
00:01:36 Please, just call me Kak.
00:01:38 Yes, it's easier.
00:01:40 I'm looking for it, why?
00:01:42 And more Akrab.
00:01:43 Oh yes.
00:01:44 Kakak.
00:01:45 Kak, honestly, the song, is there a Sofia Jain who feels that this song is for me?
00:01:50 Really?
00:01:51 I think when the producer contacted me to say that Black will release this song,
00:02:03 and they wanted to use my name as the title.
00:02:09 And when I read the lyrics, I said, "What does this song have to do with Sofia Jain?"
00:02:17 You know?
00:02:22 Because if we think about it, what does it have to do with her?
00:02:26 So, but because, I said, "Well, if the producer and the writer and Black himself feel it's appropriate,
00:02:40 then continue."
00:02:41 But here, I want to say, because the title is S-O-F-E-A.
00:02:47 Yes.
00:02:48 J-A-N-A.
00:02:49 That's not my real name.
00:02:52 I see.
00:02:53 My real name is Sofia.
00:02:56 S-O-F-I-A.
00:02:57 Okay.
00:02:58 Jain Hisham.
00:02:59 Which until today, I feel like I don't understand why the title is like that.
00:03:08 Because sometimes we feel like, when people write articles, they write about someone else.
00:03:17 I see.
00:03:19 Because, you know, that's not my name.
00:03:21 Anyway, but I think at that time, how many years have I been doing this song?
00:03:30 Sofia Jain, 10 years.
00:03:31 10 years, right?
00:03:32 So, I was in my 40s or so.
00:03:36 So, I think maybe I was quite taken aback.
00:03:41 Okay.
00:03:42 I was quite taken aback.
00:03:43 Okay.
00:03:43 But what's interesting is when the song was launched, it became a hit.
00:03:56 Right.
00:03:56 It was such a hit.
00:03:57 It was an amazing hit.
00:03:59 You mean, the final song.
00:04:02 Yes, right.
00:04:03 So, and from there, I think maybe people who don't know who Sofia Jain is, they start to know her.
00:04:11 Because she is, we have to remember, she is a new generation.
00:04:16 Where I haven't acted for a long time.
00:04:18 And if I act, it's in small productions for the break.
00:04:24 If it's a film, it's a small indie film.
00:04:26 So, maybe they don't know me that well.
00:04:34 So, it opens up a space for the younger generation to get to know who Sofia Jain is.
00:04:44 And they ask, what does Sofia Jain have to do with the lyrics of this song?
00:04:50 Actually, there's nothing.
00:04:51 But I've never met Black.
00:04:54 Oh, okay.
00:04:54 Um, yeah, fact.
00:04:56 I've never met Black in a way, I mean, to be able to talk.
00:05:03 To meet her.
00:05:05 So, I never knew until today why she named the song Sofia Jain.
00:05:12 Based on the answer, I have two things that I don't understand.
00:05:15 Please.
00:05:15 The first one is true.
00:05:16 Like Sofia Jain said earlier, I don't understand why Black sang the song,
00:05:21 wrote the lyrics, composed it, etc.
00:05:23 Chose the name.
00:05:24 Yes, wrote it as Sofia Jain's title.
00:05:26 And the second thing, Sofia Jain said earlier, she's more than 40 years old.
00:05:31 How old is she now? She's like 20.
00:05:33 No.
00:05:34 She's getting older.
00:05:35 She's getting older.
00:05:36 Oh, really?
00:05:37 We're the same age.
00:05:38 We're the same age. 24?
00:05:40 I don't think so.
00:05:41 Deh!
00:05:43 Awww!
00:05:45 No, I mean, maybe you're one year younger.
00:05:47 Why do you want to see me?
00:05:49 You're one year younger.
00:05:51 I'm 39.
00:05:53 Not that far.
00:05:55 Not that far.
00:05:57 Again, Dina has to admit, if we talk about Sofia Jain as a brand,
00:06:01 S-O-F-I-A.
00:06:03 Write it down.
00:06:05 InsyaAllah, everyone remembers after this.
00:06:07 Remember after this.
00:06:09 We always associate Sofia Jain's branding as an expensive brand.
00:06:17 I'm always underpaid.
00:06:19 But people remember.
00:06:21 But people remember.
00:06:23 In a literal sense.
00:06:25 I need to let that go.
00:06:27 But back to us.
00:06:29 Who's underpaid?
00:06:31 This person.
00:06:33 But it's...
00:06:35 I'm not sure about the brand's name.
00:06:39 Because the generation after Sofia Jain, your juniors,
00:06:43 the female actors will mention their idol, Sofia Jain.
00:06:47 Who they want to be like Sofia Jain.
00:06:49 Like Sofia Jain.
00:06:51 Like Sofia Jain back then, when you first started,
00:06:54 you looked up to Mariam Manado.
00:06:56 A lot.
00:06:58 A lot.
00:07:00 Because I was raised in a generation where we were exposed from the start.
00:07:08 With the 60s, 70s, 80s movies.
00:07:12 We didn't stop.
00:07:14 We were on TV 1, TV 2.
00:07:16 TV 3 was just launched.
00:07:18 So we were among the two.
00:07:21 The station TV.
00:07:23 So we were raised with movies and female actors.
00:07:30 That I look up to.
00:07:36 I look up to because we have Mariani.
00:07:41 Yes, Mariani.
00:07:43 And...
00:07:45 Mariani and Manado.
00:07:50 A lot.
00:07:52 And until today, when I meet them in an event,
00:07:59 I really like to sit with them and reminisce.
00:08:04 What was it like for them at that time?
00:08:08 To be a woman in the art industry.
00:08:14 Where they not only act, they sing.
00:08:18 They dance.
00:08:20 And a lot of them started from ethnic groups.
00:08:26 So they are very cultured in that regard.
00:08:30 So I think that's what I learned.
00:08:37 From the art world.
00:08:41 And also because when I was young,
00:08:46 I was friends with Melissa Saylah.
00:08:51 My close friend.
00:08:53 And I met a lot of artists.
00:08:57 Sharifah Aini, Rubiah Suparman.
00:09:01 Because they were known as Auntie Mariani.
00:09:04 So I think it's not a habit,
00:09:09 but I'm used to the surroundings.
00:09:15 Did that also affect your branding?
00:09:19 When people say, when we interview younger actors,
00:09:24 "Oh, her icon is Sofia Jean, but she is expensive."
00:09:28 Her branding, her persona, her elegance.
00:09:33 So, we know that Sofia Jean is a bit of a terror,
00:09:37 a bit of a flirt.
00:09:39 But we'll keep that one.
00:09:42 But how does someone named Sofia Jean
00:09:50 take care of her own class?
00:09:54 Honestly, I've never thought about appearance.
00:10:02 I know people will say, "Oh, you're back to square one."
00:10:08 But we try to go back to the 80s.
00:10:13 70s, 80s, 90s.
00:10:17 That was the era of the film and TV drama industry.
00:10:24 And if we watch or remember,
00:10:29 if we were there,
00:10:32 we can remember that every actor,
00:10:35 regardless of gender,
00:10:37 they had their own style.
00:10:40 They were their own individuals.
00:10:44 So, they didn't have this thing about,
00:10:50 "Oh, she's classy and she's not."
00:10:54 All of us, all the actors at the time,
00:10:58 regardless of gender,
00:11:00 they all had their own uniqueness.
00:11:04 Regardless of how they worked,
00:11:07 their appearance,
00:11:09 or the way they delivered themselves in acting or singing,
00:11:13 their appearance in and out of the film,
00:11:19 we can see that each of them was different.
00:11:24 Different.
00:11:26 So, I think when people remember me,
00:11:31 they remember my time in that era.
00:11:35 But if we broaden our perspective in this era,
00:11:40 we can see actors like Diana Yusof, Ramona Rahman,
00:11:45 Aida Nerina, Susan Lancaster,
00:11:48 Sharifa Sofia,
00:11:50 Lydia Wati, Melissa Saylah,
00:11:55 and many more.
00:11:58 If we were to put ourselves in that era,
00:12:02 we were all different.
00:12:04 Our appearance, hair, make-up, everything was different.
00:12:09 And that shows their identity.
00:12:15 They didn't follow the fashion era.
00:12:18 Because at the time, there were no make-up artists.
00:12:21 There were no wardrobe artists.
00:12:24 They did everything themselves.
00:12:27 So, from that, we can see the individuality of these actors,
00:12:37 the singers, too.
00:12:39 Like singers, they have different voices,
00:12:41 different delivery, different genres.
00:12:44 Some can sing all genres,
00:12:46 some stick to just one genre.
00:12:49 So, that's why I think, from that perspective,
00:12:53 I don't think, when it comes to their appearance,
00:12:57 I think it's not something I ever thought about.
00:12:59 I never thought about my appearance.
00:13:02 If I want to think about my appearance,
00:13:04 I want to make sure my hair is neat, my clothes are neat.
00:13:08 That's all I think about.
00:13:11 But we never create a brand.
00:13:15 Or create, "This is what I'm going to look like."
00:13:17 Never.
00:13:18 It's just like that.
00:13:22 Speaking of you, Sofia Arjen,
00:13:26 you're a singer, and so on.
00:13:28 We know that Sofia Arjen is a great actress.
00:13:30 I've seen her in the old movies.
00:13:32 She's amazing.
00:13:33 She's become so many things.
00:13:35 But, as a singer,
00:13:37 have you ever tried to sing?
00:13:41 Or, did you just want to act, not sing?
00:13:44 I think, when we're young,
00:13:47 we can do anything.
00:13:49 Agree?
00:13:50 Yes, that's our youth.
00:13:52 I want to ask,
00:13:55 Gunung Daki,
00:13:58 Daki Gunung?
00:13:59 Gunung Daki, instead.
00:14:00 Gunung Daki, the third branch.
00:14:02 That's how it is.
00:14:03 We're young, and we can do anything.
00:14:06 But, as a young person,
00:14:12 I know I can't sing.
00:14:13 I don't have the talent to sing.
00:14:15 So, when people say, "Sing, sing."
00:14:19 Because, at that time,
00:14:20 many people naturally,
00:14:24 naturally,
00:14:25 they would enter this field.
00:14:29 Singing, too.
00:14:31 If we look at young people,
00:14:33 they can sing, act, paint, etc.
00:14:37 So, they already have the talent.
00:14:41 But, I know,
00:14:42 I, Sofia Arjen, know,
00:14:43 that I don't have the talent to do that.
00:14:45 And, it's a talent that I know I can't imitate.
00:14:49 You didn't even try?
00:14:51 I did try,
00:14:53 but, I failed in singing class.
00:14:57 I want to laugh, but I feel like it's wrong.
00:15:00 Continue.
00:15:01 I thought it was okay,
00:15:02 but I failed in singing class.
00:15:04 We tried.
00:15:05 I was in singing class,
00:15:06 but I was rejected.
00:15:08 I sent my teacher to the singing class.
00:15:11 I was rejected.
00:15:12 She gave up.
00:15:14 But, you can't do it at all?
00:15:16 You can't.
00:15:17 As long as there's a harmony,
00:15:20 you can follow the melody.
00:15:23 But, if you want to pull it,
00:15:25 you can't.
00:15:26 You can't.
00:15:27 I understand.
00:15:28 But, have you ever acted in a film or musical?
00:15:33 Have you?
00:15:34 I have.
00:15:35 I think,
00:15:37 my first attempt to sing,
00:15:41 on stage,
00:15:43 was not singing with a song,
00:15:46 but before that,
00:15:48 or after that?
00:15:50 Okay.
00:15:51 I don't remember exactly,
00:15:53 but I think it was in the 90s.
00:15:56 I don't know why,
00:16:00 but I said yes.
00:16:02 You're a bad person.
00:16:06 You're so sincere.
00:16:08 No, I'm not.
00:16:09 It's not that.
00:16:10 It's me.
00:16:11 We were called by a production company,
00:16:17 a company that recorded,
00:16:20 to sing various songs for Eid.
00:16:25 Okay.
00:16:26 So, I was in the cast.
00:16:33 When I listened to the album,
00:16:36 I think the best singer was Faiza Hussein,
00:16:38 and a few others.
00:16:43 But, I failed.
00:16:46 It was okay,
00:16:48 but I thought,
00:16:51 "Why did I do that?"
00:16:54 But it was fun.
00:16:56 Okay.
00:16:57 It was fun.
00:16:58 Singing with friends.
00:16:59 Yes, singing with friends,
00:17:00 going to the studio.
00:17:01 That was the first time I felt,
00:17:03 "This is what a singer experiences."
00:17:06 Going to the studio.
00:17:08 "Oh, it's like this.
00:17:10 It's not one take,
00:17:12 but several takes."
00:17:14 Like that.
00:17:15 So, it was fun.
00:17:18 I got to meet friends,
00:17:21 and then, I sang.
00:17:23 And then, I thought,
00:17:24 and talked to each other.
00:17:25 "Oh, God."
00:17:27 This will remain forever.
00:17:30 Yes, but the experience is more valuable than the result.
00:17:32 Yes, that's right.
00:17:33 That's what it is.
00:17:35 That's her experience.
00:17:36 And my next experience is,
00:17:39 I got to act for the first time.
00:17:43 On the set of Pentas.
00:17:45 That was my first acting job on Pentas,
00:17:50 with the writer,
00:17:53 Dato' Nordin Hassan.
00:17:55 That was in 1994.
00:17:58 I was forced to sing,
00:18:03 act, and dance.
00:18:05 Because Dato' Nordin Hassan's works
00:18:09 are very absurd.
00:18:11 Where he will be,
00:18:13 all the actors have to do all that.
00:18:17 The elements.
00:18:18 The elements must be there.
00:18:20 And at that time, I was very scared.
00:18:22 Because I know I can't sing.
00:18:24 And imagine, we want to sing live.
00:18:26 Live, yes.
00:18:27 For 10 nights.
00:18:28 You know, in front of a crowd.
00:18:32 And I was at that time,
00:18:36 the title of the work was,
00:18:38 "The Night of the Crying Woman."
00:18:40 And I was acting with Shorin Tambi,
00:18:42 Jalil Hamid.
00:18:44 I had to sing with Uji Rashid.
00:18:48 You know, so those things,
00:18:51 I felt,
00:18:53 why did I say yes?
00:18:55 What were you thinking at that time?
00:19:00 But I wanted to.
00:19:02 I wanted that experience.
00:19:04 I wanted to learn.
00:19:06 Learn, for, I think,
00:19:09 at the end of the day,
00:19:10 all artists,
00:19:13 no matter if they are singers, actors, writers,
00:19:17 we all have some sense of insecurity.
00:19:20 We have some sense of anxiety.
00:19:22 Where we want to do our best.
00:19:25 And we are looking for that path.
00:19:27 We have to practice.
00:19:29 Practice is something we have to do.
00:19:31 To seek knowledge.
00:19:33 To acquire knowledge.
00:19:34 Not only in class,
00:19:36 but we have to acquire knowledge
00:19:38 with our experience with other people,
00:19:39 with humans.
00:19:40 So,
00:19:41 but that experience,
00:19:44 as we go back to what we said,
00:19:46 the most valuable experience.
00:19:47 If not, I wouldn't have had that experience
00:19:49 with Uji Rashid.
00:19:51 I wouldn't have had that experience
00:19:53 with Shorin Tambi.
00:19:55 I wouldn't have had that experience
00:19:57 with these great people.
00:19:59 Right?
00:20:00 So,
00:20:01 and from there,
00:20:03 I realized,
00:20:05 that was the starting point
00:20:08 that made me realize that
00:20:11 I have to go forward.
00:20:13 I have to move forward.
00:20:14 And if we are going forward,
00:20:15 we have to do a lot of things.
00:20:17 Even though we don't have that background.
00:20:20 Right?
00:20:21 Even if you are not good at it,
00:20:22 just do it.
00:20:24 And learn as fast as you can.
00:20:27 You know?
00:20:28 And having that confidence
00:20:30 to execute what we have to do.
00:20:33 So, I remember that
00:20:35 on the first night,
00:20:37 TUN Mahadev
00:20:40 opened,
00:20:41 officiated
00:20:43 the event tonight.
00:20:46 So,
00:20:48 imagine.
00:20:49 10 days.
00:20:50 10 days.
00:20:51 And the opening.
00:20:52 The opening night had a TUN.
00:20:53 Yes, there was a TUN.
00:20:54 You know?
00:20:55 The Prime Minister at that time.
00:20:57 So,
00:20:58 you know, I'm glad.
00:21:00 I'm grateful that I got the chance.
00:21:03 That chance.
00:21:05 And I have to thank those
00:21:07 who offered me that chance.
00:21:09 The confidence.
00:21:10 Yes, their confidence in me.
00:21:12 Because at that time,
00:21:13 I just finished
00:21:15 the film "Cinta Kita".
00:21:17 Okay.
00:21:18 So, when I got the offer,
00:21:20 I read the script.
00:21:21 I said, "Oh my God, that's it."
00:21:24 It's not just one line.
00:21:28 We sing.
00:21:29 Sing.
00:21:30 Yes, it's like a river.
00:21:32 So,
00:21:34 I still remember
00:21:36 Dato' Nuri Hasan said,
00:21:37 "Sofia, you can do it."
00:21:40 "You can do it."
00:21:42 And that made me feel challenged
00:21:44 for myself.
00:21:46 Because it's easy for us to say,
00:21:47 "No, I can't do it."
00:21:49 Right.
00:21:50 Give up quickly.
00:21:51 Yes.
00:21:52 But,
00:21:53 because of that,
00:21:55 I decided,
00:21:56 this is my journey.
00:21:58 My journey began
00:22:00 to do or explore
00:22:03 various things.
00:22:05 What did she want as long?
00:22:06 As long,
00:22:07 10 nights,
00:22:08 you know,
00:22:09 people don't ask for money to return the tickets,
00:22:11 it's okay.
00:22:12 Okay, like just now,
00:22:13 you said about
00:22:15 everyone has insecurity.
00:22:17 So, I need advice.
00:22:19 Hey, why?
00:22:20 Because, you see,
00:22:21 I'm like this.
00:22:22 I have a friend.
00:22:24 I have a friend.
00:22:26 He's like,
00:22:27 he has no insecurity at all.
00:22:29 How?
00:22:30 That's very accurate.
00:22:31 He doesn't have?
00:22:33 He has no insecurity at all.
00:22:34 He thinks he can sing,
00:22:35 he thinks he can act.
00:22:36 Confident level is high.
00:22:38 That's good.
00:22:39 Yes.
00:22:40 I don't have.
00:22:42 In front of Dato' Ramli MKS, I can.
00:22:43 Please give me advice.
00:22:45 Okay, I'll say.
00:22:47 But,
00:22:49 you told me,
00:22:51 you did everything.
00:22:53 Even though,
00:22:54 you think you have a weakness here,
00:22:55 you have a weakness here.
00:22:57 But, it's true.
00:22:58 If we reflect back,
00:22:59 the works of,
00:23:00 the works of,
00:23:01 the works of Datin Sofia Jinn,
00:23:03 she has been,
00:23:05 like all the characters,
00:23:06 in the film, it's the same.
00:23:07 The heavy ones.
00:23:08 The heavy ones,
00:23:09 the weird ones,
00:23:10 the curly hair,
00:23:11 the long hair,
00:23:12 the curly hair,
00:23:13 the controversial,
00:23:14 the sporty,
00:23:15 the one riding a motorcycle,
00:23:16 all kinds of.
00:23:17 When she wants to say no,
00:23:19 yes.
00:23:20 Why didn't she say no,
00:23:21 or,
00:23:22 what is the limit,
00:23:23 of Datin Sofia Jinn?
00:23:25 I think,
00:23:26 when I started,
00:23:27 started,
00:23:28 after school,
00:23:29 when I finished school,
00:23:30 SPM,
00:23:31 my path to be on the top,
00:23:35 to do something,
00:23:37 that is artistic,
00:23:38 it's there.
00:23:39 You know.
00:23:40 And, I was encouraged,
00:23:41 by my late mother.
00:23:43 You know.
00:23:44 And, she, she is,
00:23:45 if we want to,
00:23:46 reflect back,
00:23:47 when I was young,
00:23:48 when I was young,
00:23:49 she was the one who,
00:23:50 who was the,
00:23:51 who was the motivation,
00:23:54 because,
00:23:55 she opened my eyes,
00:23:57 to various,
00:23:58 genre of films.
00:24:00 Okay.
00:24:01 She really liked,
00:24:03 you know,
00:24:04 the elements of dance,
00:24:07 and singing,
00:24:08 in the film.
00:24:09 So, there were many musicals,
00:24:10 that I watched with her.
00:24:12 So,
00:24:13 when I was,
00:24:14 reaching my teenage years,
00:24:17 I,
00:24:18 I wanted,
00:24:20 I wanted,
00:24:21 but,
00:24:22 I didn't know how.
00:24:25 Okay.
00:24:26 Do you understand?
00:24:27 Because, I felt,
00:24:28 at that time,
00:24:29 well,
00:24:30 if you want to be an actor,
00:24:32 I think,
00:24:35 it's not considered,
00:24:37 as a profession.
00:24:39 Right?
00:24:40 It's not something professional.
00:24:42 Okay.
00:24:43 Professionals at that time,
00:24:44 were doctors,
00:24:45 lawyers,
00:24:46 magistrates.
00:24:47 The typical,
00:24:48 conservative ones.
00:24:49 Yes.
00:24:50 So,
00:24:51 at that time,
00:24:52 I was a bit skeptical,
00:24:53 because,
00:24:54 my friends,
00:24:55 after,
00:24:56 after graduating from SPM,
00:24:57 they already knew,
00:24:58 I wanted to be an English teacher.
00:25:00 Okay.
00:25:01 They already knew,
00:25:02 what they wanted to do.
00:25:03 Okay.
00:25:04 They already knew,
00:25:05 which university they wanted to go to.
00:25:06 Okay.
00:25:07 But, I was still stuck.
00:25:09 I didn't know,
00:25:10 what I wanted to do.
00:25:11 And,
00:25:12 at that time,
00:25:13 no one wanted,
00:25:14 maybe,
00:25:15 they said,
00:25:16 "Sofia,
00:25:17 you can try this,
00:25:18 or you can try that."
00:25:20 Because,
00:25:21 at that time,
00:25:22 there were small theatre groups.
00:25:24 Okay.
00:25:25 Right?
00:25:26 At that time,
00:25:27 Faridah Amerikan,
00:25:28 Yes.
00:25:29 Juhasham,
00:25:30 Yes.
00:25:31 But,
00:25:32 I would meet them,
00:25:33 in the future,
00:25:34 in this journey.
00:25:35 But,
00:25:36 at that time,
00:25:37 how could I be like Faridah Amerikan?
00:25:38 Yes.
00:25:39 What was her journey?
00:25:40 What was her journey?
00:25:41 Was there a school,
00:25:42 for people like me?
00:25:43 Right?
00:25:44 At that time,
00:25:45 maybe,
00:25:46 I didn't fully understand,
00:25:47 the history.
00:25:48 But,
00:25:49 what happened was,
00:25:50 the blessings,
00:25:51 Yes.
00:25:52 that came,
00:25:53 in a way,
00:25:54 that was,
00:25:55 not expected.
00:25:56 Where,
00:25:57 because,
00:25:58 the late,
00:25:59 Aunty Mariani,
00:26:00 she,
00:26:01 at that time,
00:26:02 with Melissa Saylah,
00:26:03 was also a teacher.
00:26:04 So,
00:26:05 at that time,
00:26:06 they did a lot of dramas,
00:26:07 TV,
00:26:08 and so on.
00:26:09 So,
00:26:10 from there,
00:26:11 they would call,
00:26:12 "Sofia,
00:26:13 you should do,
00:26:14 extra,
00:26:15 extra in,
00:26:16 her drama set,
00:26:17 or something."
00:26:18 But,
00:26:19 after a while,
00:26:20 I got,
00:26:21 I got the feeling,
00:26:22 "Oh,
00:26:23 I think this is something,
00:26:24 I want to do.
00:26:25 This is it.
00:26:26 But,
00:26:27 how?"
00:26:28 You know,
00:26:29 because I didn't have,
00:26:30 a degree,
00:26:31 in acting.
00:26:32 I didn't go to school.
00:26:33 I didn't go to university.
00:26:34 You know.
00:26:35 So,
00:26:36 and at that point,
00:26:37 my father,
00:26:38 he lost his job,
00:26:39 and,
00:26:40 he was,
00:26:41 my father,
00:26:42 he lost his job.
00:26:43 So,
00:26:44 from there,
00:26:45 the job I took,
00:26:46 was for my family,
00:26:47 at that time.
00:26:48 So,
00:26:49 I became,
00:26:50 people say,
00:26:51 the contributor,
00:26:52 financial contributor,
00:26:53 at that time.
00:26:54 At a very young age.
00:26:55 Yes.
00:26:56 And,
00:26:57 my story is not typical.
00:26:58 There were a lot,
00:26:59 of actors at that time,
00:27:00 who,
00:27:01 who,
00:27:02 tried to find,
00:27:03 a livelihood.
00:27:04 But,
00:27:05 that livelihood,
00:27:06 came in various ways.
00:27:07 There were,
00:27:08 sometimes,
00:27:09 there were,
00:27:10 always there,
00:27:11 and sometimes,
00:27:12 he was lonely.
00:27:13 You know.
00:27:14 But,
00:27:15 when we were young,
00:27:16 he was funny.
00:27:17 Okay.
00:27:18 He was funny.
00:27:19 And from there,
00:27:20 auntie,
00:27:21 because,
00:27:22 the actors,
00:27:23 or,
00:27:24 you know,
00:27:25 the other directors,
00:27:26 saw,
00:27:27 "Eh, who is this boy?"
00:27:28 "Who is that boy?"
00:27:29 Sofia Jin,
00:27:30 "Oh,
00:27:31 we can try him."
00:27:32 Right.
00:27:33 So, from there,
00:27:34 I started,
00:27:35 acting,
00:27:36 in a way,
00:27:37 extra,
00:27:38 and then,
00:27:39 there were,
00:27:40 just two dialogues,
00:27:41 and then,
00:27:42 I became,
00:27:43 you know,
00:27:44 what is this,
00:27:45 a female actor,
00:27:46 an assistant,
00:27:47 and also,
00:27:48 a main character.
00:27:49 But,
00:27:50 he,
00:27:51 maybe,
00:27:52 felt,
00:27:53 so fast.
00:27:54 But,
00:27:55 I felt it was very slow.
00:27:56 Okay.
00:27:57 Because,
00:27:58 it was very difficult for me.
00:27:59 It was difficult
00:28:00 in the sense,
00:28:01 I didn't know what I wanted.
00:28:02 I didn't know what I wanted.
00:28:03 So,
00:28:04 I was,
00:28:05 I was,
00:28:06 I didn't know what I wanted.
00:28:07 Ah.
00:28:08 I understand.
00:28:09 I knew,
00:28:10 I wanted to act,
00:28:11 but I didn't have the structure.
00:28:12 Hmm.
00:28:13 You know,
00:28:14 if we are singers,
00:28:15 say,
00:28:16 you know,
00:28:17 you have a structure.
00:28:18 Actors also have a structure.
00:28:19 Yes.
00:28:20 But,
00:28:21 for us who don't have the experience,
00:28:22 who never went to school,
00:28:24 we are nobodies.
00:28:26 So,
00:28:27 our struggle was a bit,
00:28:29 more,
00:28:30 in that sense.
00:28:31 Because,
00:28:32 we have to,
00:28:33 prove,
00:28:34 that,
00:28:35 we can do it.
00:28:37 We can do what the director,
00:28:39 or the scriptwriter,
00:28:40 wants us to do.
00:28:41 And,
00:28:42 but we had to work very,
00:28:44 very hard.
00:28:45 Hmm.
00:28:46 You know,
00:28:47 no nonsense.
00:28:48 We got the script,
00:28:49 we studied the script.
00:28:50 And,
00:28:51 if we were surrounded by,
00:28:52 you know,
00:28:53 at that time,
00:28:54 I got to act with,
00:28:55 actors like,
00:28:56 Yusof Wahab,
00:28:57 you know,
00:28:58 Sherin Tambi,
00:29:00 Jalry Hassan.
00:29:02 At that time,
00:29:03 they were already,
00:29:04 big.
00:29:05 They were,
00:29:06 they were the ones I watched on TV.
00:29:08 Yes.
00:29:09 On the screen.
00:29:10 You know.
00:29:11 And,
00:29:12 and,
00:29:13 suddenly,
00:29:14 I got to share,
00:29:15 the screen with them,
00:29:16 or a frame with them.
00:29:18 And,
00:29:19 I took it all,
00:29:20 from those experiences,
00:29:22 to better myself.
00:29:24 And from here,
00:29:25 when we act,
00:29:26 we are also singers,
00:29:27 I guess.
00:29:28 We have genres,
00:29:29 we have themes,
00:29:30 we have different things.
00:29:31 So,
00:29:32 as actors,
00:29:33 we act,
00:29:34 you know,
00:29:35 all kinds of things.
00:29:36 And from there,
00:29:37 before the internet,
00:29:39 we have to,
00:29:40 go back to reading.
00:29:41 Reading books.
00:29:42 To,
00:29:43 to read.
00:29:44 We had to read a lot,
00:29:45 to,
00:29:46 to understand,
00:29:47 to understand.
00:29:48 And also,
00:29:49 To learn.
00:29:50 Yes.
00:29:51 To,
00:29:52 you know,
00:29:53 to understand,
00:29:54 what I'm doing.
00:29:55 Right?
00:29:56 And,
00:29:57 and,
00:29:58 I was very shy.
00:30:00 I was really shy,
00:30:01 when I was young,
00:30:02 when I was young.
00:30:03 And I knew,
00:30:04 if I,
00:30:05 continue to be a shy person,
00:30:06 and not ask anything,
00:30:07 I will never get anywhere.
00:30:09 So,
00:30:10 I had to,
00:30:11 open my mouth,
00:30:12 ask,
00:30:13 even though I felt,
00:30:14 that question was a stupid question.
00:30:16 People looked at me like,
00:30:17 "What's wrong with you?"
00:30:19 But,
00:30:20 if I didn't ask,
00:30:21 I didn't know.
00:30:22 There are people who will answer,
00:30:23 and there are people who won't.
00:30:25 So,
00:30:26 if I didn't answer,
00:30:27 I had to find the answer,
00:30:28 in my own personal style.
00:30:29 And from there,
00:30:30 I think that is where,
00:30:31 when we talk about,
00:30:32 not branding,
00:30:33 but we can talk about,
00:30:35 self-confidence,
00:30:38 self-confidence,
00:30:39 or,
00:30:40 just,
00:30:41 your style.
00:30:42 Style.
00:30:43 Right?
00:30:44 The way you deliver,
00:30:45 the way you act,
00:30:46 Ramona Rahman,
00:30:47 is different from,
00:30:48 Susan Lancaster.
00:30:49 Right.
00:30:50 It's different from,
00:30:51 Lydia Wati.
00:30:52 Right.
00:30:53 It's different from,
00:30:54 Melissa Siler.
00:30:55 It's different from me,
00:30:56 interpretation.
00:30:57 It's different.
00:30:58 There are people who can,
00:30:59 learn from teachers,
00:31:00 in the world of American theatre,
00:31:01 like Ramona Rahman.
00:31:02 She had that.
00:31:03 Right?
00:31:04 She had that.
00:31:05 But,
00:31:06 most of us didn't.
00:31:07 So,
00:31:08 it was,
00:31:09 so,
00:31:10 that streak of,
00:31:11 what,
00:31:12 in five years,
00:31:13 it went,
00:31:14 straight to,
00:31:15 becoming,
00:31:16 the most popular actress.
00:31:17 And,
00:31:18 sometimes,
00:31:19 we feel like,
00:31:20 where is that from?
00:31:21 1995,
00:31:22 if I'm not mistaken.
00:31:23 90,
00:31:24 eh,
00:31:25 not 95,
00:31:26 it was 1990,
00:31:27 before that.
00:31:28 19,
00:31:29 before,
00:31:30 because,
00:31:31 I got married in 1995.
00:31:32 Okay.
00:31:33 Before that.
00:31:34 1993,
00:31:35 I think.
00:31:36 1992.
00:31:37 Two years.
00:31:38 So,
00:31:39 when I think back,
00:31:40 because we're a bit more mature,
00:31:41 we're a bit older,
00:31:42 we look back and say,
00:31:43 wow,
00:31:44 that was,
00:31:45 a leap,
00:31:46 in a way,
00:31:47 so fast.
00:31:48 Plastic.
00:31:49 Five,
00:31:50 roughly,
00:31:51 it didn't even last five years,
00:31:52 I think,
00:31:53 three or four years,
00:31:54 only.
00:31:55 That I asked myself,
00:31:56 how did I get to,
00:31:57 that I asked myself,
00:31:58 what did I do?
00:32:00 What did I do,
00:32:02 to get to where I am now?
00:32:04 Yeah.
00:32:05 Yeah.
00:32:06 You,
00:32:07 suddenly,
00:32:08 we look back at all the works,
00:32:09 our work,
00:32:10 what did we actually do?
00:32:11 And,
00:32:12 how did I become,
00:32:13 the most popular actress,
00:32:15 you know,
00:32:16 or the most popular artist?
00:32:18 What did I actually do?
00:32:20 And,
00:32:21 it's interesting,
00:32:22 because,
00:32:23 at that time,
00:32:24 I was more into TV dramas.
00:32:25 I wasn't a film actor,
00:32:26 actually.
00:32:27 I was more,
00:32:28 more into,
00:32:29 TV dramas.
00:32:32 Because,
00:32:33 TV dramas,
00:32:34 at that time,
00:32:35 were really,
00:32:36 really,
00:32:37 hard to develop.
00:32:38 It was non-stop.
00:32:40 It wasn't just,
00:32:41 like,
00:32:42 all the actors,
00:32:45 got their jobs,
00:32:48 fairly.
00:32:50 Because there was so much,
00:32:52 production going on.
00:32:54 There was no one left behind.
00:32:56 There was no one left behind.
00:32:58 Everyone would get a job.
00:33:00 Constant,
00:33:01 constant,
00:33:02 constant.
00:33:03 So,
00:33:04 mostly,
00:33:05 for,
00:33:06 for,
00:33:07 Nyara,
00:33:08 my family as well,
00:33:10 dramas were that way.
00:33:12 The source.
00:33:13 The source,
00:33:14 the source of my income.
00:33:15 So,
00:33:16 so I think,
00:33:18 if we,
00:33:20 if nowadays,
00:33:21 we,
00:33:22 there aren't many dramas,
00:33:24 that will be released now,
00:33:25 on TV.
00:33:26 But actually,
00:33:27 those dramas are so great.
00:33:29 So great,
00:33:30 the theme is so great.
00:33:31 To the point,
00:33:32 I think,
00:33:33 to the point that,
00:33:35 if people can remember me,
00:33:36 in those dramas,
00:33:38 it means,
00:33:40 we have succeeded,
00:33:41 in terms of,
00:33:42 we have made,
00:33:43 a meaningful choice.
00:33:46 Not just for me,
00:33:48 but also for,
00:33:49 those who are watching.
00:33:51 You know,
00:33:52 so,
00:33:53 I think about those things a lot.
00:33:55 I always think about those things,
00:33:57 you know,
00:33:58 and I feel,
00:33:59 there's so much,
00:34:00 so many,
00:34:01 not just me,
00:34:02 but many more,
00:34:03 individuals in this industry,
00:34:06 who have the same story.
00:34:09 Who feel the same thing.
00:34:10 You know,
00:34:11 it's just a matter of,
00:34:13 we are consistent,
00:34:15 we want to work like this,
00:34:17 until the end,
00:34:19 the end of our lives,
00:34:21 or not,
00:34:23 that's all.
00:34:24 But many,
00:34:25 that's all they know.
00:34:28 That's all they know.
00:34:30 You know,
00:34:31 so,
00:34:32 so,
00:34:33 yeah,
00:34:34 so,
00:34:35 for me,
00:34:36 maybe I,
00:34:37 was lucky,
00:34:39 because I,
00:34:41 after I reached the peak,
00:34:44 I got married,
00:34:46 and after I got married,
00:34:47 I,
00:34:48 well,
00:34:49 I got involved with my family.
00:34:51 That's my choice.
00:34:54 And,
00:34:55 that's fate.
00:34:57 That's fate.
00:34:59 And,
00:35:00 because of that,
00:35:02 and I,
00:35:03 I stayed in Jakarta,
00:35:06 and,
00:35:07 for a few years,
00:35:09 so,
00:35:10 there,
00:35:11 I got to see the art world from a different perspective.
00:35:14 Yeah.
00:35:15 A different side.
00:35:16 You know,
00:35:17 watching their films,
00:35:20 watching their theatre,
00:35:22 I was like,
00:35:23 wow, it was a whole new world for me.
00:35:25 So,
00:35:26 from there,
00:35:27 I got inspiration,
00:35:29 when I came back,
00:35:30 if I ever get to work,
00:35:32 you know,
00:35:33 in a theme like that,
00:35:35 I want to,
00:35:36 let's see if this will work,
00:35:37 you know,
00:35:38 things like that.
00:35:39 Because,
00:35:40 once again,
00:35:41 I don't teach.
00:35:42 I teach with experience,
00:35:43 with people around me.
00:35:45 So,
00:35:46 and because of that,
00:35:47 I was also in and out.
00:35:51 I didn't,
00:35:52 you know,
00:35:53 I wasn't in this industry for 5 or 6 years.
00:35:57 Right.
00:35:58 I came back,
00:35:59 came back,
00:36:00 with,
00:36:02 with Puteri Gunung Ledang.
00:36:04 Yeah.
00:36:05 You know,
00:36:06 and,
00:36:07 so,
00:36:08 from there,
00:36:09 I think,
00:36:10 I've matured a little,
00:36:13 and I understand that,
00:36:14 sometimes,
00:36:15 you have to make,
00:36:16 we need to make the right choice,
00:36:21 for us.
00:36:23 Right or wrong,
00:36:24 that's another story.
00:36:25 But,
00:36:26 what we feel is best for us,
00:36:27 the best for us,
00:36:29 the people around us,
00:36:30 and for your career as well.
00:36:32 Because,
00:36:33 we don't want to break up,
00:36:34 we still want to move on.
00:36:36 And,
00:36:37 as a woman,
00:36:38 we have changed,
00:36:40 our way of thinking has changed,
00:36:42 you know,
00:36:44 our physicality has changed,
00:36:46 our physicality,
00:36:47 our mentality,
00:36:48 we are more in touch,
00:36:51 more grounded,
00:36:52 in that sense.
00:36:53 So,
00:36:54 now we want to find,
00:36:55 characters,
00:36:58 or themes,
00:37:00 stories,
00:37:01 films,
00:37:02 or stories,
00:37:03 that are different.
00:37:04 Not what I did when I was young,
00:37:07 but,
00:37:08 as a woman in my 30s,
00:37:09 a woman in her 30s,
00:37:10 40s,
00:37:11 and I saw that gap,
00:37:13 I saw that gap,
00:37:14 I saw that gap,
00:37:15 in the sense of,
00:37:17 people say,
00:37:19 "Oh,
00:37:20 well, if you're 40,
00:37:21 those are the characters you'll get."
00:37:23 I understand.
00:37:24 And I always say,
00:37:25 "Why?"
00:37:26 Why?
00:37:28 Women in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s,
00:37:31 still can't do their part.
00:37:33 They're not working.
00:37:35 They're not,
00:37:36 you know,
00:37:37 they're not teachers.
00:37:38 What?
00:37:39 Yeah,
00:37:40 that's right.
00:37:41 So,
00:37:42 I,
00:37:43 then I felt a bit disappointed.
00:37:45 Because,
00:37:46 well,
00:37:47 this industry,
00:37:48 it will go through phases.
00:37:50 Yeah,
00:37:51 that's right.
00:37:52 It will go through phases.
00:37:53 That's right.
00:37:54 So,
00:37:55 if we can afford it,
00:37:56 we can wait.
00:37:57 We can wait.
00:37:58 But if we can't,
00:38:00 we have to do whatever.
00:38:02 Yeah.
00:38:03 Right?
00:38:04 So,
00:38:05 I'm lucky here.
00:38:06 Because,
00:38:07 I could wait.
00:38:08 I could wait.
00:38:09 Even though,
00:38:10 even though in our bodies,
00:38:11 we're like,
00:38:12 "I want to act,
00:38:13 I want to act,
00:38:14 I'm itchy,
00:38:15 I'm so itchy,
00:38:16 I want to act."
00:38:17 Itchy.
00:38:18 Itchy.
00:38:19 But I had to wait.
00:38:20 I had to wait because,
00:38:21 I thought I didn't want to go back
00:38:22 into the industry,
00:38:24 and I felt like I failed.
00:38:26 It's a waste.
00:38:27 It's a waste.
00:38:28 Not because,
00:38:29 it's a lifetime thing.
00:38:31 You know,
00:38:32 now with the internet,
00:38:33 you're there forever.
00:38:35 That's right.
00:38:36 We can't,
00:38:37 we can't erase it.
00:38:38 That's right.
00:38:39 We can't take it back.
00:38:40 We can't pay billions,
00:38:41 billions to get it back.
00:38:42 No.
00:38:43 We cannot.
00:38:44 So, we have to make those right choices.
00:38:46 But we don't,
00:38:47 that's all a blessing.
00:38:48 Yeah.
00:38:49 And everything,
00:38:50 we work as best as we can,
00:38:51 but everything,
00:38:52 will be in God's hands.
00:38:53 That's right.
00:38:54 But,
00:38:55 that was my focus.
00:38:56 Okay.
00:38:57 So,
00:38:58 when people say,
00:38:59 "Oh,
00:39:00 a voter."
00:39:01 They say,
00:39:02 "Oh,
00:39:03 the actor is a voter."
00:39:04 No, it's not.
00:39:05 And if they want to say I'm a voter,
00:39:06 why not?
00:39:07 Why not?
00:39:08 That's right.
00:39:09 But that's also what makes me wonder,
00:39:11 how,
00:39:12 if you say,
00:39:13 you can advise,
00:39:14 a new actor,
00:39:15 how do you determine
00:39:16 if it's a good choice or not?
00:39:21 Yes.
00:39:22 How do you know?
00:39:23 Because that's what causes,
00:39:25 okay,
00:39:26 from you saying,
00:39:27 "A character like this,
00:39:28 he brings it here."
00:39:29 Then from this,
00:39:30 he brings it here.
00:39:31 So,
00:39:32 when people say,
00:39:33 "I want to say no,
00:39:34 but what if?"
00:39:35 But,
00:39:36 when people say,
00:39:37 "I want to say no,
00:39:38 but what if?"
00:39:39 What if?
00:39:40 Yes.
00:39:41 What if?
00:39:42 Sometimes we say no,
00:39:43 because we feel like we can't do it.
00:39:45 We can't do it.
00:39:46 We're not qualified to do something.
00:39:49 And maybe at that time,
00:39:51 we weren't qualified.
00:39:52 But we learned from that.
00:39:55 And nobody can take that away from you.
00:39:57 Yeah.
00:39:58 Maybe I was really bad in that film.
00:40:01 Was it?
00:40:02 You know,
00:40:03 "It was,
00:40:04 it was."
00:40:05 I watched it and I go,
00:40:06 "Oh my God."
00:40:07 "Why?"
00:40:08 "Why?"
00:40:09 But it taught me,
00:40:10 that this is it.
00:40:11 You're not good enough.
00:40:12 You've got to get better.
00:40:13 You've got to learn more.
00:40:14 You've got to learn more.
00:40:15 Learn more.
00:40:16 Learn more.
00:40:17 And that's what brought me to Pentas.
00:40:19 And that's really my first love.
00:40:21 Because I feel very,
00:40:23 I feel very safe on Pentas.
00:40:25 So,
00:40:27 and if we want to talk about
00:40:29 new actors,
00:40:30 new generation now,
00:40:32 you know,
00:40:33 we have to remember that
00:40:35 it's different.
00:40:37 In terms of,
00:40:38 at that time,
00:40:40 we didn't have a manager.
00:40:42 Right.
00:40:43 We didn't have a manager.
00:40:44 All by yourself.
00:40:45 Everything by myself.
00:40:46 I had to go home and think.
00:40:47 And the person I would,
00:40:48 you know,
00:40:49 refer to was my mother.
00:40:51 My late mother.
00:40:52 You know,
00:40:53 "What do you think?
00:40:54 What do you think?"
00:40:55 "How, Mummy?
00:40:56 How?"
00:40:57 And she always said,
00:40:59 "Your instinct."
00:41:01 You know,
00:41:02 "Our instinct will push us there."
00:41:04 "If we're strong, we'll go there.
00:41:06 If we're not strong,
00:41:07 we'll go somewhere else."
00:41:08 So,
00:41:10 but in today's world,
00:41:12 there are managers,
00:41:14 assistant managers.
00:41:16 People are making decisions for you.
00:41:18 Yeah.
00:41:19 Right.
00:41:20 This is okay, this is not okay.
00:41:21 They can take it, they can't take it.
00:41:22 Yes.
00:41:23 Because,
00:41:24 But that's also confusing.
00:41:25 Yes, it's confusing.
00:41:27 So, sometimes,
00:41:28 people have read the script before you can read the script.
00:41:30 And the person has said,
00:41:31 "No, not for you."
00:41:33 But you haven't read it yet.
00:41:34 Right.
00:41:35 So, why am I depending on somebody else
00:41:37 to tell me whether I think it's okay or not?
00:41:40 I think,
00:41:41 maybe, maybe.
00:41:42 I've seen
00:41:44 a situation like that.
00:41:47 I want to say,
00:41:48 and I'm the one who,
00:41:50 if people don't ask for advice,
00:41:52 advice from me,
00:41:53 I won't give it.
00:41:54 Because sometimes,
00:41:55 if we give advice,
00:41:57 people can take it the wrong way.
00:41:59 Right.
00:42:00 If it doesn't work,
00:42:01 "Oh, you're wrong."
00:42:02 Yes.
00:42:03 We only say words,
00:42:04 or we give advice,
00:42:06 as best as possible,
00:42:08 if I'm asked.
00:42:09 If I'm not asked,
00:42:10 I won't.
00:42:11 I wouldn't.
00:42:12 But, that's what I've seen.
00:42:13 So,
00:42:14 for us,
00:42:15 back then,
00:42:16 we had to make,
00:42:17 we had to make
00:42:18 a decision,
00:42:20 you know,
00:42:22 and everything,
00:42:24 if something happens,
00:42:26 or doesn't work,
00:42:28 it's all on us.
00:42:29 And we had to take that responsibility.
00:42:31 We had to have accountability
00:42:33 for what we did.
00:42:34 So,
00:42:36 and there's no shame in that.
00:42:38 You know.
00:42:39 No shame if we fail,
00:42:41 we have to do something that,
00:42:42 "Oh, I shouldn't have done that."
00:42:44 You know.
00:42:45 When we were young,
00:42:46 we didn't think much.
00:42:47 Right.
00:42:48 But now,
00:42:49 we have to think.
00:42:50 We have to think a lot.
00:42:51 We have to think a lot.
00:42:52 A lot of things.
00:42:53 Sometimes,
00:42:54 thinking a lot isn't good either.
00:42:55 Yes.
00:42:56 It's tiring.
00:42:57 That's why I don't think much.
00:42:59 You can't.
00:43:00 But,
00:43:01 it's true,
00:43:02 the perspective,
00:43:03 when we do something,
00:43:04 we can't be proud of it every time.
00:43:06 There are also works,
00:43:07 we look back,
00:43:08 "Oh, what did I do?"
00:43:09 But,
00:43:10 when we feel down,
00:43:11 we take it back,
00:43:12 "Okay,
00:43:13 I should have done this."
00:43:14 Yes.
00:43:15 Because we want to move forward,
00:43:16 we don't want to go back.
00:43:17 Right?
00:43:18 So,
00:43:19 sometimes,
00:43:20 we have to look at our work,
00:43:21 that we used to do,
00:43:22 and say,
00:43:23 "I will,
00:43:24 I won't do that again."
00:43:25 You know.
00:43:26 "What was I thinking?"
00:43:27 But,
00:43:28 it's not only in this industry.
00:43:29 You know,
00:43:30 every industry is like that.
00:43:31 True.
00:43:32 If it can be shared,
00:43:33 like,
00:43:34 Datin said earlier,
00:43:35 anything referring to you,
00:43:36 the story about you,
00:43:37 people say,
00:43:38 the inspiration to act,
00:43:39 and so on.
00:43:40 Actually,
00:43:41 who is it?
00:43:42 I want to know,
00:43:43 you as a Sofia Jane,
00:43:44 who is it,
00:43:45 and,
00:43:46 how important is it,
00:43:47 to Sofia Jane?
00:43:48 What kind of person is she?
00:43:49 Yes.
00:43:50 So,
00:43:51 I think,
00:43:52 I think,
00:43:53 I think,
00:43:54 I'm a great-grandmother.
00:43:55 I'm the eldest daughter,
00:43:56 among three siblings.
00:43:57 Nowadays,
00:43:58 the family title is,
00:43:59 M40,
00:44:00 Middle Income.
00:44:01 And,
00:44:02 we are an ordinary family.
00:44:03 An ordinary family.
00:44:04 I was raised in Ipoh,
00:44:05 when I was young,
00:44:06 because I lived with my grandfather and grandmother.
00:44:07 The Islamic kindergarten,
00:44:08 my first kindergarten,
00:44:09 in Ipoh.
00:44:10 And,
00:44:11 next,
00:44:12 I was raised in a boarding school,
00:44:13 in a boarding school.
00:44:14 And,
00:44:15 I was raised in a boarding school,
00:44:16 in a boarding school.
00:44:17 And,
00:44:18 I was raised in a boarding school,
00:44:19 in a boarding school.
00:44:20 And,
00:44:21 I was raised in a boarding school,
00:44:22 in a boarding school.
00:44:23 And,
00:44:24 then,
00:44:25 we moved to Kuala Lumpur,
00:44:26 and then we moved to Kuala Lumpur,
00:44:27 Petaling Jaya,
00:44:28 Petaling Jaya,
00:44:29 sorry.
00:44:30 You know,
00:44:31 so,
00:44:32 memory,
00:44:33 childhood,
00:44:34 I was like,
00:44:35 I was like,
00:44:36 I was like,
00:44:37 I was like,
00:44:38 a normal person,
00:44:39 going to a boarding school,
00:44:40 going to a boarding school,
00:44:41 going to a boarding school,
00:44:42 with many friends,
00:44:43 with many friends,
00:44:44 and I enjoyed school.
00:44:45 and I enjoyed school.
00:44:46 But,
00:44:47 but,
00:44:48 people said,
00:44:49 people said,
00:44:50 the subject I like the most is,
00:44:51 the subject I like the most is,
00:44:52 history.
00:44:53 history.
00:44:54 I like it,
00:44:55 because I have,
00:44:56 because I have,
00:44:57 I have a very photographic memory.
00:44:58 I have a very photographic memory.
00:44:59 I remember everything.
00:45:00 I remember everything.
00:45:01 Okay.
00:45:02 Okay.
00:45:03 So,
00:45:04 that's my plus point to be an actress.
00:45:05 That's my plus point to be an actress.
00:45:06 It's easy for me to memorize.
00:45:07 It's easy for me to memorize.
00:45:08 Okay.
00:45:09 So,
00:45:10 so,
00:45:11 so,
00:45:12 so,
00:45:13 history is a subject that I really like,
00:45:14 history is a subject that I really like,
00:45:15 history is a subject that I really like,
00:45:16 because I love,
00:45:17 because I love,
00:45:18 I love history,
00:45:19 I love history,
00:45:20 and,
00:45:21 and,
00:45:22 I love history,
00:45:23 I love history,
00:45:24 and,
00:45:25 I love history,
00:45:26 I love history,
00:45:27 you know.
00:45:28 I love history,
00:45:29 you know.
00:45:30 I was artistically inclined,
00:45:31 I was artistically inclined,
00:45:32 not academically inclined.
00:45:33 not academically inclined.
00:45:34 not academically inclined.
00:45:35 not academically inclined.
00:45:36 So,
00:45:37 so,
00:45:38 so,
00:45:39 I think,
00:45:40 I think,
00:45:41 if we go back to,
00:45:42 if we go back to,
00:45:43 if we go back to,
00:45:44 mixed blood.
00:45:45 mixed blood.
00:45:46 mixed blood.
00:45:47 mixed blood.
00:45:48 I think,
00:45:49 I think,
00:45:50 many children who are confused. Half and half. Oh now he likes to be called Pan-Asian. Confused. So I think from that point of view, my grandmother, I don't know maybe she saw something. She didn't want her grandchildren to face not difficulties, but
00:46:20 she wanted her grandchildren to be Malay. So she had to speak Malay. Even though she could speak English, she didn't want to speak. She would not, she can, but she wouldn't.
00:46:40 She wanted her grandchildren to be sent to Islamic schools. All those things. I think in hindsight, this is just me, but I think in hindsight, my grandmother saw something where she didn't want any backlash.
00:47:00 That because, you know, liberalization and all that. She wanted to keep us safe. In a safe space. And it's true because when I got to Kuala Lumpur, when I went to class, I was always the one who got hit.
00:47:25 Oh. Please read. Just because. Just because. You know, and I think that's why I feel like my grandmother saw this was going to happen. That's why she prepared us. She prepared us for all of that.
00:47:42 So that's why when I spoke in Malay, she just wanted us to be safe. She wanted us to be in a safe environment. Where if anybody wants to bully you, you know.
00:48:09 I know your culture. You know your culture. You know your culture. You know your language. Your religion. So, yes, for that I have to thank my grandmother.
00:48:25 So, it's just things like this. It's very funny. It's funny because when we're at this age, we think about that a lot. We think about why in the past, why did she ask me to go to church every day? Why?
00:48:40 But only now. But only now. Why did she ask me to speak in Malay? We see the results. We know why she did it.
00:48:49 So, growing up, it was really grown up with a culture that was very, very Malay. Very Malay, very Malaysian. And maybe some of you know, maybe some of you don't know, for those who are interested in the theatre, Sofia Jen has done it all.
00:49:09 She's done it for the national theatre, she's done it for the musical theatre, and what else? For someone with a bloodline.
00:49:20 But I'm not the only one with a bloodline. Ramona Rahman, Julia Rais, Diana Yusof.
00:49:26 She's not a lot, actually.
00:49:28 No, I mean, when we enter this field, where we have to fully teach in Malay, whether it's film, drama, or pop, maybe at that time, people were a little surprised.
00:49:44 "Who is this Mak Saleh? She's so good at her poetry."
00:49:47 "She doesn't have a palate." But, yeah, I'm not the only one. At that time, for the kids who were shocked, I guess maybe we were surprised because we went to a national school.
00:50:04 True, true.
00:50:06 We didn't go to international school. And I must say, the education period at that time was the best. Sorry. But it was. It was the best time, best time of my life.
00:50:22 Okay.
00:50:23 The best time. My friends from elementary school, we're still friends to this day. We still meet. Different backgrounds, different families, different attitudes.
00:50:36 But, you know, our relationship as friends never broke. And that's something, not only what we learn at home, we learn at school too.
00:50:47 True. I agree.
00:50:49 So, yeah.
00:50:50 Okay. I'm not brave enough to ask this question.
00:50:52 Why?
00:50:53 But I want to ask this question. But I'm not brave enough.
00:50:55 Just WhatsApp later.
00:50:56 But because Datin Sofia Jun is my sister, I'll ask too.
00:51:00 Okay.
00:51:01 There's a stigma that says that, especially female actors, have a blood clot. They have an expiry date.
00:51:10 Expiry date?
00:51:11 Yes. Why is that?
00:51:13 Why do we have an expiry date?
00:51:15 Yeah, it's like there's a demand for an expiry date. Like, for example, now, one of them, Datin Sofia Jun, is still active in the industry.
00:51:25 But, like, Diana Yusof is gone. Then, Shaifa Sofia is gone. The peers with you, who have a blood clot.
00:51:34 And that thing is more visible in the time cycle. Like, when it's Diana Daniel's time, it's only Diana Daniel who's still active in the industry.
00:51:45 But a lot of people want to switch.
00:51:47 Switch. But that's why the stigma exists. The taste.
00:51:53 Like bread, the expiry date.
00:51:57 Like, actors who are, like, very Malay-look, Umi Nazira, is still active.
00:52:04 Like, Mirafilzah is still active. Vanida Imran is still active. Fauzia Nawi.
00:52:10 But when it comes to blood clotting, it's a bit difficult. We want to see if there's a Suzanne Gaster. But she's more of a production, producer.
00:52:17 Right. Producer, yes.
00:52:18 So, in your opinion, why is there a stigma like that?
00:52:24 When we all started, me at a young age, including Suzanne, including everyone.
00:52:34 And I think this is not only for actors with blood clots. Also, actors from other races.
00:52:43 Okay.
00:52:47 Where the works at that time were not about race or religion.
00:52:57 Sometimes someone would write a script, a script, let's say.
00:53:05 At first, it was called Mariam. Let's say, the character's name is Mariam. It should be a Malay.
00:53:16 But suddenly, they didn't find a female actor that they felt was suitable for the role of Mariam.
00:53:23 So, they changed the name to Mariah.
00:53:25 Do you understand?
00:53:28 So, in those days, if they didn't find someone that they felt was suitable, it's okay.
00:53:36 I can call a Chinese, Indian, or even a Kacauan actor. What's the problem?
00:53:42 She can be Mariah, she can be Mary.
00:53:44 That's right. She can be anything.
00:53:47 And if we talk about the expiry date, I think that's a stigma that I've never heard of.
00:53:56 But people have moved on.
00:53:58 Like, Suzanne, she has her own business ID.
00:54:02 And she's also a speaker.
00:54:04 And she feels like she's 60+. She's over 60. She is amazing.
00:54:13 She's still in the industry that she loves.
00:54:16 But she plays a different role.
00:54:19 Sharifah Sofia, she has children that she's looking after.
00:54:26 She's a very hands-on mother.
00:54:28 And she's doing so much good work.
00:54:31 Working in NGOs, teaching. She's doing so much.
00:54:38 So, when people say, "It's over, it's expired," or whatever, no, they're just doing better things with their lives.
00:54:44 Today. Now.
00:54:46 And when they come back with a life experience.
00:54:51 That's right.
00:54:52 A life experience.
00:54:54 And bring it back, and one day, somebody's going to offer them something, and they're the best ones to do it.
00:55:00 Because they have that experience.
00:55:02 Not many actors have that experience.
00:55:05 That's right.
00:55:07 A life experience.
00:55:08 So, they, especially women,
00:55:12 I think the stigma is usually on women.
00:55:17 Older people, not pretty, wimpy.
00:55:22 You're angry.
00:55:24 No, no, but it's true.
00:55:26 They have an expectation of that's not realistic.
00:55:31 What's realistic?
00:55:34 How do you do that? How do you get younger? You can't get younger.
00:55:37 And if you ask us all at this time, "Do you want to go back to that age?"
00:55:41 All the answers, you ask Susan, you ask Diana, you ask anyone in their 50s, 50s, 60s, we don't want to go back there.
00:55:49 I'm a better person today.
00:55:51 Because of my experience, whether it's a happy experience, or grief.
00:55:58 Better?
00:56:00 Loss, all of that, we've experienced throughout.
00:56:02 That we can share in a notebook.
00:56:05 Not everyone can do that.
00:56:07 So, that's why sometimes when we see actors who have been around for a long time, they're like, "Wow!"
00:56:12 And you can't imagine who else can do it.
00:56:15 Only they can do it.
00:56:16 Only they can.
00:56:17 It's true.
00:56:19 So, that's why I said, I don't know who started this stigma, but for us, you know, that's the thing you have to remember.
00:56:28 If we, as people in this industry, because we're so exposed.
00:56:32 People will say a lot about us.
00:56:34 Good and bad.
00:56:36 Good and bad. Usually bad.
00:56:37 That's standard.
00:56:39 But we can't control what people say about us.
00:56:44 But we know that we need to get better.
00:56:49 We have to improve ourselves, innovate the way we act or sing.
00:56:57 Everyday.
00:56:58 Everyday, we're doing things.
00:56:59 And we're not just sitting at home, "How do I act?"
00:57:03 No, we're not.
00:57:04 We're always looking at things around us.
00:57:07 We are alive.
00:57:08 We're alive in that sense.
00:57:10 That is why, you know, now, social skills are very limited.
00:57:16 For the generation, I don't know, I would say, today's social skills are very difficult.
00:57:22 They want to say something to the older people than them.
00:57:26 But it comes out wrongly.
00:57:27 They don't know how to convey it.
00:57:29 They don't know how to convey it in writing or in vocal, oral.
00:57:35 You know?
00:57:37 And you go, "Huh?"
00:57:39 You know what I mean?
00:57:42 And that's a problem.
00:57:43 That's a big problem.
00:57:45 Especially for us in the industry, we need communication.
00:57:50 Communication.
00:57:52 Exactly.
00:57:53 Communication.
00:57:55 So, in that sense, I think, when people say, "Oh, it's already Luput, the time is already Luput."
00:58:01 Sorry, bro.
00:58:03 That's not the case.
00:58:04 Sorry, bro.
00:58:05 If you ask me, my personal opinion, all industries, all people have a Luput dance.
00:58:12 However, it doesn't matter what background, what nation, everyone has it.
00:58:19 It doesn't matter.
00:58:20 It doesn't matter.
00:58:21 So, the expectation is unrealistic.
00:58:24 Yes.
00:58:25 But, it's more to the women than to the men.
00:58:28 True.
00:58:29 So, if we talk about male actors, it's not really.
00:58:31 It's always...
00:58:32 It's more to the women.
00:58:33 Yes, because, you know, because it's easier to...
00:58:35 Maybe you think it's easier to bully a woman than to bully a man.
00:58:41 Because, you know, we are very emotional beings, right?
00:58:44 As women, we are very emotional.
00:58:46 But, I can tell you, I can walk away from this industry knowing, knowing that it has made all of us, these women, stronger.
00:58:58 Much, much stronger.
00:59:00 Because, we see the cultural shift.
00:59:04 Of how things that used to matter doesn't matter anymore.
00:59:07 True.
00:59:08 So, yeah.
00:59:09 I agree.
00:59:11 This is for sure.
00:59:12 For sure.
00:59:13 Throughout...
00:59:14 Do I have to say it in Bahasa?
00:59:16 I have to say it for sure.
00:59:18 Of course, throughout your career, there are many offers for acting, scripts.
00:59:24 It doesn't matter if it's a drama, movie, theatre, etc.
00:59:27 Is there a script that you rejected?
00:59:32 You rejected it and didn't want to do it.
00:59:34 I don't know if it's because of the script, director, or the hero.
00:59:38 I've rejected it.
00:59:39 Maybe I regretted it and didn't do it.
00:59:41 Is there?
00:59:42 It's not just me.
00:59:51 Sometimes, the way people say it, it's like I'm the only one.
00:59:56 No, no. We've asked this question to Remy Izzat.
00:59:58 He told us.
00:59:59 Remy Izzat regrets the story of Ombak Rindu.
01:00:01 Ombak Rindu.
01:00:02 Actually...
01:00:08 If I can't do something, like a script, it's usually because I'm short of time.
01:00:16 I just can't do it.
01:00:18 Back to back.
01:00:20 And there are scripts that I read and I go, "It's not for me."
01:00:29 It's not for me.
01:00:31 It's not because the script is bad.
01:00:34 But it's not for me.
01:00:37 And for the longest time, we always feel like, "Just do it. Don't hurt people's feelings."
01:00:46 But as actors, we have to remember that the last image is us.
01:00:52 True.
01:00:53 We're the ones being watched.
01:00:55 People will remember us, not the people behind us.
01:00:59 So, you have to remember that.
01:01:03 And it's not because we feel like we're being ignored.
01:01:07 No.
01:01:08 But I have to stress here, it's not wrong to think about yourself.
01:01:14 It's not wrong to think about ourselves.
01:01:16 And sometimes, we'll read something and we'll feel like, "I'm not there yet."
01:01:20 "I don't think I can do it."
01:01:22 Not because the script is bad, but we can't do it.
01:01:25 I think my understanding of this story or character is not enough.
01:01:32 And I'll regret it because I'm not going to be good at it.
01:01:37 So, sometimes we reject for different reasons.
01:01:46 But it's not wrong.
01:01:50 That's what I want to say.
01:01:51 It's not wrong for you to say no.
01:01:52 Can you tell us about one of the scenes where you...
01:01:56 There's no such thing.
01:01:57 He's still trying.
01:02:00 I want to imagine, if Sofia Jane was the character, would it be okay?
01:02:04 Not really.
01:02:05 Sometimes, we see something and we say no.
01:02:08 And then, another actress does it.
01:02:10 And that actress is nominated because she did a great job.
01:02:15 So, for me, there's no issue there.
01:02:20 Because I'll watch it and say, "Oh, yeah. Thank God I didn't do it."
01:02:24 Because I won't be able to get there.
01:02:28 It's not my time yet.
01:02:29 Or maybe you won't think about colouring it.
01:02:32 Yes.
01:02:33 It's not our time yet.
01:02:35 So, it's fate whether we do it or not.
01:02:40 But sometimes, we say, "Sofia, don't go there."
01:02:44 We believe what Naluri said.
01:02:46 We believe what Naluri said.
01:02:48 Because sometimes, we have to think about it visually.
01:02:53 Say, "Oh, this character is a woman in the village."
01:02:58 "Why did you put Sofia Jane there?"
01:02:59 As an actress, we have to think about whether it's visually appropriate or not.
01:03:07 Whether people will believe it or not.
01:03:09 It's not just about the character.
01:03:13 But, visually, how will we look like?
01:03:18 It will cause discomfort to the audience.
01:03:21 Yes.
01:03:22 Do you want to try again?
01:03:24 No, it's enough.
01:03:25 It's enough? Okay.
01:03:26 But, you can tell us the title of the film.
01:03:28 The title of the film that was rejected.
01:03:30 He still tries.
01:03:33 It's okay.
01:03:35 But, we want to take this opportunity to congratulate Dato' Sofia Jane.
01:03:39 Because she succeeded in getting the Best Actress Award at the Rome Italy Film Festival.
01:03:46 Yes.
01:03:47 Which was suddenly announced.
01:03:50 Yes.
01:03:51 The title of the film is "Marianne, Morning to Night".
01:03:54 That's right.
01:03:55 Tell us a little about Marianne.
01:03:56 What is the story, Marianne?
01:03:57 It's a story about a woman in her fifties.
01:04:04 She wants to marry a very young man.
01:04:10 It's her first marriage.
01:04:14 She has never been married before.
01:04:15 We are also talking about the stigma of old blood.
01:04:22 But, it's more about the acceptance of her surroundings.
01:04:31 About the man she wants to marry.
01:04:34 A very young man.
01:04:37 And he is also an African.
01:04:42 So, we talk about racism, xenophobia.
01:04:49 Things like that.
01:04:52 Which is quite relevant.
01:04:53 Because I am a woman in her fifties.
01:05:00 In the brackets of her fifties.
01:05:02 I got the role.
01:05:04 But, it was interesting to explore.
01:05:07 The film is set here.
01:05:09 In Kuala Lumpur.
01:05:10 Praise be to God.
01:05:12 Before we started, Adina said, "Congratulations".
01:05:16 I didn't know I was nominated.
01:05:18 I didn't know I won.
01:05:20 It's always like that.
01:05:22 You don't expect it.
01:05:24 If you expect it, you hope for it.
01:05:27 But, you don't get it.
01:05:28 You don't get it.
01:05:30 I still lost to Jacky Leviter.
01:05:32 Maybe, Latine.
01:05:35 Is there a project, a film or a drama, that will be released soon?
01:05:39 God willing, this year.
01:05:41 I will be able to see my work at Pawagam.
01:05:48 With the title, Mencari Ramli.
01:05:52 Mencari Ramli.
01:05:54 We have been working on it for over a year.
01:06:01 Now, we are working on music.
01:06:04 And, Megat Syariza's direction.
01:06:08 The first direction for the film.
01:06:11 And, we have Mimi Lana, Tony Yusof,
01:06:15 Megat, me, Hanzalini,
01:06:20 Who else?
01:06:24 Beto.
01:06:25 And, Amirul.
01:06:27 Fendi.
01:06:28 Fendi, who is the guest starring role.
01:06:31 There's also...
01:06:32 Namron?
01:06:34 It's Mencari Rahmat.
01:06:37 It's out now.
01:06:39 But, there's a lot.
01:06:40 Vanina Imran, Syarifah Amani,
01:06:43 Brom Palare.
01:06:45 So, there's a lot of guest starring cameos.
01:06:48 They're all friends.
01:06:50 Yes.
01:06:51 What's the story about?
01:06:52 So, the story is about 1970s.
01:06:55 And, it's about a man,
01:06:59 Who's actually an impersonator.
01:07:01 Not impersonator as in impersonator.
01:07:04 But, I mean, you know, like...
01:07:06 We have Elvis impersonator.
01:07:10 Yes, he's a fake.
01:07:12 Yes, fake.
01:07:13 So, he's a fake.
01:07:14 And, this man is...
01:07:20 He's a fake.
01:07:24 But, this is the era of the pyramid.
01:07:28 And, imagine in the era of the pyramid,
01:07:34 It's the era of...
01:07:36 The bad guys, the expiry date.
01:07:40 Where the bad guys are now.
01:07:42 Because, now the world is moving.
01:07:45 The era will change.
01:07:46 And, at the beginning...
01:07:48 At that point, around 1970s,
01:07:53 Not only about the pyramid,
01:07:57 But, those who are related to the pyramid,
01:08:00 Like, the impersonator,
01:08:01 At the shows, at the village, and everything.
01:08:05 People don't want to see him.
01:08:07 Right, Fan Faye?
01:08:08 Fan Faye, yes.
01:08:09 Now, they want to see POK Yayay.
01:08:11 Rock and Roll, you know, Beatles.
01:08:14 All of those are on the rise.
01:08:16 So, the story starts...
01:08:21 From the beginning,
01:08:25 When the pyramid died.
01:08:27 The news, Putih Ramli died.
01:08:30 The story begins with...
01:08:33 The reincarnation of Yusof.
01:08:39 And, how he meets other characters.
01:08:42 It's a very dark comedy.
01:08:45 So, it's...
01:08:47 You know, it was a lot of fun.
01:08:51 Inshallah.
01:08:52 When will it be released?
01:08:54 Maybe, this year, September.
01:08:56 Inshallah, we hope it will be released in the last quarter of the year.
01:08:59 All of that will be shared on Sofia Jin's social media.
01:09:04 What's that?
01:09:05 It's about Putih Ramli.
01:09:06 Oh, yes.
01:09:07 I'm not the only one who shares it.
01:09:09 I'll call you later.
01:09:11 Maybe, before we close,
01:09:13 Let's talk about the celebrity today, Tin.
01:09:15 Among the three characters,
01:09:17 Either from a movie or a drama,
01:09:19 The one you played,
01:09:21 Which is your favorite.
01:09:22 Which you feel like,
01:09:24 If you want to make a reference,
01:09:25 This is one of the references.
01:09:26 Or, this is one of the characters that I feel,
01:09:28 I can bring to the best of my ability.
01:09:30 Regardless of the space?
01:09:31 Regardless of the space?
01:09:32 Regardless of the space?
01:09:33 Regardless of the space.
01:09:34 Three?
01:09:36 That's a lot.
01:09:37 That's a little bit, Tin.
01:09:39 Oh, it's hard.
01:09:41 Okay, sorry.
01:09:46 What's it for?
01:09:47 Maybe, they said it's a reference.
01:09:49 People see that,
01:09:50 Datin Yasa, you're always satisfied with this job.
01:09:52 Oh, personal favorite.
01:09:54 Just say, personal favorite.
01:09:57 Um...
01:09:58 My personal favorite,
01:10:02 If I say something that,
01:10:04 I really worked so hard for,
01:10:06 Is Tia Tanamron,
01:10:08 Which is about the beautiful sea of the moon.
01:10:10 Where I played the role of the moon.
01:10:13 And, I don't need to say anything about the work,
01:10:19 Because the book is there.
01:10:21 Okay.
01:10:22 So, here's the book.
01:10:23 With the pictures of her work in it.
01:10:27 So, the sea is more beautiful than the moon.
01:10:29 Second, maybe,
01:10:32 Tunteja in Puteri Gunung Ledang.
01:10:36 Although, the character or the appearance of Tunteja in the film is very little.
01:10:44 But, I think,
01:10:48 Based on history,
01:10:51 Based on her experience as a woman,
01:10:54 I think, it should be a reference,
01:11:00 Not my performance, but the character.
01:11:02 The character.
01:11:03 Yes, because the character,
01:11:05 It's reflected in the writing.
01:11:07 Right?
01:11:08 The writing,
01:11:09 The character is very,
01:11:11 Very rich with the emotional aspect,
01:11:15 Yes, that's right.
01:11:16 That, you know,
01:11:18 That hasn't been touched yet, I think.
01:11:21 Okay, that's two, right?
01:11:22 Okay, three, maybe,
01:11:25 I don't know, people like Cinta Kita.
01:11:32 I love Cinta Kita.
01:11:34 I love Cinta Kita.
01:11:35 I really like Cinta Kita.
01:11:37 Even if it's not my fault,
01:11:38 The name of the location where I was surprised to act,
01:11:40 The name of Aita Rejon is Aita Rejon Sofia Ajin, right?
01:11:43 Because we saw it there.
01:11:44 Yes, right?
01:11:45 Where is this?
01:11:47 That's Aita Rejon Sofia Ajin.
01:11:48 Yes, we were there.
01:11:49 We were the first production, I believe,
01:11:53 Which was the first to explore the area.
01:11:57 There's no name yet, that's why it's called Sofia Ajin.
01:12:00 But now there are all kinds of names, right?
01:12:02 But, yes, so,
01:12:03 At first I was surprised too, like,
01:12:05 What?
01:12:06 But I realized,
01:12:07 The location is where we,
01:12:09 We, we,
01:12:11 We made the illustration of Cinta Kita.
01:12:13 Cinta Kita, I think, yes, I mean,
01:12:17 I don't know whether I did a good job,
01:12:19 But, I mean,
01:12:21 But I think it was, it was,
01:12:23 It was a story that was not realistic.
01:12:28 You know what I mean?
01:12:29 It was not realistic, but at the same time absurd.
01:12:31 But for me, the story,
01:12:33 The character is realistic.
01:12:35 Yes.
01:12:36 Because many can relate,
01:12:37 Especially women who have been injured,
01:12:40 Women who are not too soft in their characters.
01:12:43 It's realistic.
01:12:45 But I think I, I,
01:12:47 I really like it, you know,
01:12:49 When I accepted the character,
01:12:50 Because it's a little different,
01:12:52 From the normal I did before, right?
01:12:55 What is this?
01:12:57 Be a lover,
01:12:58 Love someone,
01:12:59 Or a lover, a singer, right?
01:13:02 There are many films,
01:13:03 There are two films,
01:13:04 Films with Abang Jamal.
01:13:05 So,
01:13:06 So,
01:13:08 And I thought,
01:13:09 And I thought,
01:13:10 And if we watch that film,
01:13:12 It's very poetic.
01:13:15 And we rarely get,
01:13:16 Right.
01:13:17 A script where,
01:13:19 The words used,
01:13:21 It's poetic, but it doesn't feel awkward.
01:13:24 Not awkward.
01:13:25 Yes, it's not awkward.
01:13:26 So,
01:13:27 That's one of my favorite,
01:13:29 Favorite characters,
01:13:31 Because of my experience,
01:13:33 During the filming.
01:13:36 So, I don't know if it can be used as a reference or not,
01:13:39 But,
01:13:40 I like it.
01:13:41 Thank you.
01:13:42 I like it.
01:13:44 The best part is,
01:13:45 The story,
01:13:46 Before we started,
01:13:47 You said you like the story,
01:13:49 Kak Sofia and Amang Aristika,
01:13:51 That's our love.
01:13:53 No, the one where you became a boy,
01:13:54 That's our love.
01:13:55 The one where you were short,
01:13:56 That's our love.
01:13:57 That's our love.
01:13:59 That's our love.
01:14:00 I'm so shy, I want to talk.
01:14:02 Is that right?
01:14:03 Datin Sofia Jinn, thank you.
01:14:05 Thank you.
01:14:07 Thank you so much,
01:14:08 For,
01:14:09 Having us, right?
01:14:11 Eh, it's the opposite.
01:14:12 It's the opposite.
01:14:13 I should be the one to say,
01:14:14 Thank you, because,
01:14:16 Sudi invited me.
01:14:18 It's wrong.
01:14:19 You're very wrong.
01:14:21 But,
01:14:22 It's a fun session.
01:14:24 Thank you so much, Datin.
01:14:25 Yes.
01:14:26 And from the beginning,
01:14:27 Until the end of this session,
01:14:29 People said,
01:14:30 Her tone is the same.
01:14:31 I mean, her intonation,
01:14:33 Oh.
01:14:34 It's comforting.
01:14:37 Comforting.
01:14:38 It's comforting to hear,
01:14:39 Her voice.
01:14:40 Is it comforting?
01:14:41 It's okay, thank you.
01:14:43 Bye.
01:14:44 Assalamualaikum.
01:14:45 Waalaikumsalam.
01:14:46 Bye.
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