FULL VIDEO EPISODE: Randy Moss Talking Preakness, Pat Connaughton In Studio, Wolves Force Game 7 And NFL Schedule Release

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00:00:00 But he had a triple double.

00:00:01 Uh, he looked awesome.

00:00:03 Hank, you okay over there?

00:00:04 He's choked on some water.

00:00:06 He choked on...

00:00:07 You okay?

00:00:07 That's a grind.

00:00:09 You mean drown?

00:00:10 It's a grind.

00:00:10 This job's a grind.

00:00:12 On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people.

00:00:18 We have Randy Moss talking preakness.

00:00:21 And then we have Pat Connerton from Milwaukee Bucks in person

00:00:25 talking about his season, talking about the playoffs.

00:00:28 Real estate talk too.

00:00:30 Awesome interview with Pat.

00:00:31 Uh, and we also have some basketball to talk about.

00:00:35 The Wolves are alive.

00:00:36 We're going to go to a game seven.

00:00:38 We talk about the Celtics finishing off the Cavs.

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00:02:29 Today is Friday, May 17th, and the Minnesota Timberwolves have forced a game seven with an

00:02:39 absolute ass kicking PFT of the Denver Nuggets.

00:02:43 When you thought this series couldn't get weirder, you thought the wolves were dead.

00:02:49 They come out and they 50 piece, they 45 pieced the Nuggets at home with their throwbacks.

00:02:57 They trumped them.

00:02:57 And we're going.

00:02:58 Yeah, they trumped them and we're going to a game seven.

00:03:00 Yeah, game seven.

00:03:02 Two sweetest words in sports.

00:03:04 It used to be B-to-L-A.

00:03:05 Now it's game seven.

00:03:07 We're also game five fans, but this series has not been.

00:03:10 It's been close in terms of the number of games won, but there haven't been any real good

00:03:16 games.

00:03:16 It feels like it goes back and forth.

00:03:18 First two games, obviously, Timberwolves, then the Nuggets went on a little run.

00:03:21 Now it's back to the wolves again.

00:03:22 And whatever team is hot is just way better than the other team that night.

00:03:26 So I don't know what to expect out of game seven.

00:03:29 It feels like Nuggets have the advantage at home.

00:03:32 But after watching this ass kicking tonight, now that's kind of up in the air, too.

00:03:36 I just whoever the spreads don't matter in this game.

00:03:40 Put it that way.

00:03:41 It's just like pick whatever team you think is going to win.

00:03:45 And if they can figure out how to get the ball out of Jamal Murray's hands more, then

00:03:49 that might be a good idea, because that's how they kind of turn the tide of the series

00:03:53 was in the first two games.

00:03:54 They were like, you know what?

00:03:56 Michael Malone said Jamal Murray bringing the ball up.

00:03:58 The court is an issue for us.

00:04:00 Him getting pressured 94 feet is an issue for us.

00:04:03 So we're going to have Yokech do it.

00:04:04 We have Aaron Gordon do it.

00:04:06 And that seemed to work for three games.

00:04:08 And Jamal Murray is just back to being complete garbage.

00:04:12 He just he just can't shoot.

00:04:13 Yeah, yeah, the Nuggets shot like shit.

00:04:15 I also thought the Timberwolves made an awesome defensive adjustment by doubling Yokech in

00:04:21 the post where they're like, hey, Rudy Gobert got cooked for an all time performance in

00:04:25 game five.

00:04:26 Let's maybe give him some help.

00:04:28 And it wasn't even the doubling.

00:04:29 It was like how good and crisp they were with their like rotations behind the double.

00:04:35 And then obviously it helps that the Nuggets just couldn't hit a shot.

00:04:39 But all credit to the Wolves, like they came out with that defensive intensity and game

00:04:44 plan that you saw in games one and two and just absolutely took it to the Nuggets.

00:04:49 And now I mean, Anthony Edwards was awesome.

00:04:51 I did have a nuclear missile well play on his over points, but the game was so out of

00:04:55 hand.

00:04:55 He was like three points off.

00:04:57 But yeah, you're right.

00:04:58 Like the spreads don't matter.

00:05:00 These games as close they've been.

00:05:02 It's been a great like chess, like counter chess moves by both coaches.

00:05:07 And we now get to a game seven in Denver, I think Sunday night.

00:05:11 And I guess whichever team is going to want to start making some shots because the Nuggets

00:05:17 were so bad from three.

00:05:19 So, so bad from three tonight.

00:05:21 And the Wolves look like the game one and two Wolves where it's like this team is ready.

00:05:25 That's the thing.

00:05:26 The Wolves played.

00:05:27 They should get credit.

00:05:28 They played with a lot of energy and they look really good, especially in the first

00:05:31 half.

00:05:31 They put the game out of hand pretty much by the middle of the third quarter.

00:05:35 But also the Nuggets, I think, deserve it's like who won.

00:05:39 Did they win it or did the Nuggets lose it?

00:05:41 If the Nuggets had shot well, this game would have been much more competitive.

00:05:45 I don't know if it would have been.

00:05:46 Obviously, 45 points is a lot, but this is an all time shit performance by the Nuggets

00:05:51 shooting the basketball.

00:05:52 And we also should say that the Wolves were their throwbacks with the throwback court,

00:05:57 which was the minute I turned on the game.

00:05:58 I was like, oh, it's fucking on like that.

00:06:01 I don't know.

00:06:02 They should wear that every single game.

00:06:04 I do not think they could lose in those.

00:06:06 I know there's probably stats to say they probably lost game three and four, and I'm

00:06:09 forgetting it.

00:06:10 I'm going recency bias.

00:06:12 They don't lose in those.

00:06:13 I like the T shirts they're wearing tonight, too.

00:06:16 They're kind of swagger jacking.

00:06:17 Okay, see a little bit.

00:06:18 But the fan T shirts that just said I heart Wolves.

00:06:21 That's a good one.

00:06:22 Yeah.

00:06:22 By the way, if you're tuning in and watching us, Hank is in a well, I was gonna say Uber,

00:06:29 but you're banned from Uber.

00:06:31 A lift is in the library.

00:06:34 I'm in the library.

00:06:35 Yeah, he's studying the lift library.

00:06:38 Yeah, he joined the show just to prove that he's still awake, even though it's not that

00:06:41 late.

00:06:42 But he's gone for the week.

00:06:43 He's out of town, and he's in a lift right now in a library lift library.

00:06:48 Yeah, great to be here.

00:06:49 What you guys?

00:06:50 He's also PFT.

00:06:51 I can see him, even though you can't really see him.

00:06:53 He's like a hologram.

00:06:55 Hank, you see that smile?

00:06:57 That smile is that the Wolves might win game seven.

00:07:00 Yeah, he's happy.

00:07:02 Hank's definitely in a better place right now than he was at this exact time.

00:07:06 Two nights ago, you do look like a hologram or like a ghost, like a demon poltergeist.

00:07:11 Yeah, I tried to take it off.

00:07:13 Then I feel like I almost blew up the Riverside, so I'm just going with it.

00:07:17 Sorry to take it off again.

00:07:19 I can't.

00:07:21 Okay, I was gonna say it.

00:07:24 Stop the recording.

00:07:24 All right.

00:07:26 Other game tonight that was incredible.

00:07:29 The New York Rangers period of the week, New York Rangers down three one look lifeless.

00:07:34 Look like we were going to have an all time choke job by the Rangers forcing a game seven

00:07:40 after they're up three in this series.

00:07:42 They come back.

00:07:44 They win the game.

00:07:45 Memes.

00:07:46 I would like to read a tweet to you that was posted when the Rangers had an incredible

00:07:54 comeback, like awesome moment for Rangers fans.

00:07:58 They were probably I know some Rangers fans.

00:08:01 We have some coworkers or Rangers fans.

00:08:04 They started to feel the pressure because you don't want to be the team that's up three

00:08:08 oh and then have to go home for game seven.

00:08:10 So put all that out there.

00:08:13 Rangers come back from down three one.

00:08:16 They look like they were dead.

00:08:17 And the tweet we got from the part of my take account was hurricanes were so close to pulling

00:08:24 off the series comeback.

00:08:27 That's the quote for the Rangers game winning goal.

00:08:30 Yeah, that's our one and only memes.

00:08:34 Yeah, I love it.

00:08:36 I love it.

00:08:36 I was getting ahead of it.

00:08:37 Unbiased though.

00:08:38 Memes is nothing but unbiased.

00:08:39 There was a great, great save by the defendant in this game.

00:08:42 Do you see that?

00:08:43 Yes, laid out.

00:08:44 Stop the puck on the line.

00:08:46 The parallax angles were everywhere.

00:08:48 They're trying to figure out if it went.

00:08:49 I don't think it went in.

00:08:50 It was one of the all time hustle play.

00:08:53 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:54 Meme.

00:08:55 So how are you feeling now that the Rangers you were you were you were definitely like

00:09:00 this is going to be awesome.

00:09:02 They're going to choke.

00:09:02 The pressure is all going to be on them in game seven.

00:09:06 And then it just flipped on you.

00:09:08 Are you getting nervous?

00:09:09 So I was so I was very excited in the second.

00:09:13 And then biz went on TNT and said when the canes win the series, I want the Martinuk

00:09:19 save framed and signed.

00:09:21 So and then they just went on a tear on the third.

00:09:26 So it's business.

00:09:27 Fall.

00:09:27 Yeah, it's all business.

00:09:28 Fall.

00:09:29 Yeah, he is a mush.

00:09:30 It's good, too, because biz is like Charles Barkley.

00:09:33 The two of them together are like the mushes of their respective shows on TNT.

00:09:39 Yeah, they're so good.

00:09:40 I actually so we talk a little bit later about inside the NBA and how it's maybe going away,

00:09:46 maybe moving to a different place.

00:09:47 I went down a rabbit hole for about, I'd say, 25, 30 minutes today watching the best

00:09:53 clips in inside the NBA history.

00:09:54 I was just laughing the entire time.

00:09:57 It's it's so funny.

00:09:58 It's so good.

00:09:59 I hope they keep it together somehow.

00:10:01 But just if you don't, if you got some time to kill on a Friday, if you're in a lift and

00:10:05 you're going somewhere probably totally sober, just pull up the clips that are like highlight

00:10:10 reels of inside the NBA and just laugh your ass off.

00:10:13 It'll be the best 30 minutes that you spend.

00:10:15 Did you watch the clip?

00:10:16 My all time favorite is Charles Barkley talking about how he got his bracelet from a dude

00:10:21 in the sauna.

00:10:22 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:23 In the steam room, the steam room.

00:10:24 Yeah, he's like, yeah, I gave it to me.

00:10:26 That's a great one.

00:10:27 My other favorite is the night that the that the Clippers and the Rockets got into the

00:10:33 fight underneath the Staples Center, and they went to somebody in the locker room that was

00:10:38 giving a very serious report about what happened.

00:10:40 And she was like, the LAPD has been called.

00:10:44 They are providing security for both teams.

00:10:46 There's a police presence outside the locker rooms, escorting players to the team buses.

00:10:50 It was like a very serious report.

00:10:52 And then it cut back to inside the NBA and Shaq and Charles were just crying, laughing

00:10:56 and they were doing like fake 911 calls like, hey, 911.

00:11:01 Yeah, you better get here quick.

00:11:02 Chris Paul is about to come kick my ass.

00:11:04 It was so good.

00:11:06 But guess what, PFT?

00:11:08 We don't have to worry because I don't know if you saw NBA Countdown, the counterpart

00:11:13 on ESPN tonight, but minutes before the tip off of the Wolves Nuggets game, they were

00:11:21 so locked in, they had a debate.

00:11:24 Would Stephen A score one basket versus LeBron in a one on one game up to 100 points, spotting

00:11:31 Stephen A 99 points?

00:11:33 That was what they talked about.

00:11:38 Because Stephen A brought this up.

00:11:39 Stephen A brought this up.

00:11:40 He was wet.

00:11:41 He was wet before they started taping.

00:11:43 No, he brought it up.

00:11:45 I think it was on first take or get up one of those shows and he brought it up.

00:11:49 And so he started talking about it.

00:11:51 And so the way that content works at ESPN is when somebody says something inflammatory

00:11:56 on one of their shows, then all the other shows talk about that for the next two weeks.

00:12:01 So what did they say?

00:12:02 Did they think he could do it?

00:12:03 I think he said he could do it because he was warming up with Bob Myers tonight and

00:12:08 he hit like five jumpers in a row.

00:12:10 So that was kind of I think that was what propelled it like, hey, it's ready for prime

00:12:15 time.

00:12:15 Let's bring this debate to prime time.

00:12:17 I could probably get a bucket on him.

00:12:18 I'm going to say that Stephen A, I think Stephen A could score like five buckets on him.

00:12:25 Oh, because I think winners or losers.

00:12:27 What do you mean?

00:12:30 Like if LeBron scores, does he get the ball checked out?

00:12:32 Oh, yeah.

00:12:34 Yeah.

00:12:34 If LeBron scores, no, it goes to losers.

00:12:36 Okay.

00:12:37 Okay.

00:12:37 So I think you get five on him because I think that LeBron would just get tired.

00:12:42 There's no load management in the game to 100 one on one.

00:12:45 Yeah.

00:12:46 Stephen A could just probably shit talk him to get in his head.

00:12:49 Yeah.

00:12:51 Oh, easily.

00:12:52 Easily.

00:12:52 Okay.

00:12:54 Should we talk about the PGA Championship real quick?

00:12:56 I have two thoughts.

00:12:57 One is Scottie Scheffler, maybe mortal because he's not leading and it's very weird to see

00:13:02 him not leading because Zander Shoffley was incredible.

00:13:04 What did Scottie end up shooting?

00:13:06 Minus three.

00:13:07 Minus four.

00:13:08 So he's tied for 12th, but it was just weird.

00:13:11 On his first hole, which was insane.

00:13:13 Yeah, he had an eagle, but then he had a bad bogey a couple holes later.

00:13:16 And then the other one is, do you think there's a possibility that John Rom gives back all

00:13:24 his money and he's like, I made a huge mistake.

00:13:26 I'm going to go back to the PGA, which is because he's not happy.

00:13:29 He's so miserable and he's golfing like shit.

00:13:32 Yeah, I don't know.

00:13:34 Maybe what is it about playing on the live tour that actually makes him worse at golf?

00:13:39 I don't know.

00:13:40 I mean, he ended up minus one, but it was like, if you look at his scorecard, he was

00:13:44 all over the place.

00:13:46 Like he bogeyed.

00:13:48 It's actually incredible that he was minus one because he ended up bogeying five holes

00:13:53 and he just looked miserable out there.

00:13:55 I don't know.

00:13:57 It could be.

00:13:57 Could he be the one that swings it all back?

00:14:00 Or he's like, I don't want this money.

00:14:02 Can I just give you an IOU guys?

00:14:04 Well, the thing about John Rom is I think he still wants all the money, right?

00:14:08 He just he wants to play better golf too.

00:14:11 Right.

00:14:11 But no, I think that the money, the money is a big stumbling block in that negotiation

00:14:15 because he doesn't want to lose it.

00:14:17 And then also trying to go to MBS and say, Hey, I'm can I just say, psych?

00:14:23 Yeah, we just can we just do a redo on this one?

00:14:25 I'll go back to the PGA.

00:14:26 I don't know if that's going to happen at all, because that's John Rom.

00:14:29 It felt like was a big part of the public investment funds leverage where now everybody's

00:14:34 talking about like they've got the best players and you can't make an argument otherwise now,

00:14:40 especially how the start of the season was going like besides Scotty.

00:14:42 And there are a couple other guys, but like they have all the top players, the ones that

00:14:47 have been most successful in majors.

00:14:49 And it just feels like the John Rom transfer was the tipping point for that.

00:14:54 And I don't think that the live tour wants to give that guy up.

00:14:57 I agree with you.

00:14:58 I'm just he does look miserable out there.

00:15:01 So I don't know if he's just like hating his decision, but it's interesting to watch.

00:15:07 And then our guys, Brooks and Max both did well.

00:15:09 They're in the hunt.

00:15:10 They did well.

00:15:11 I love it when they play together.

00:15:12 I love it when they're in the same group because it solves a lot of problems for me.

00:15:16 I don't have to worry about jumping back and forth from groups or waiting till my group

00:15:19 shot comes up.

00:15:20 I just said, I forget it.

00:15:22 Then Shoffley Shoffley was lights out today.

00:15:24 He's in the lead.

00:15:25 He shot nine under, I think.

00:15:26 So now everyone is saying, like, this feels like it's the year feels like it's the tournament.

00:15:31 He's not under right now.

00:15:32 I don't think I'm going to go on the record and say I've seen this movie before and it's

00:15:39 not going to end well.

00:15:41 Yeah, bogey free golf from him.

00:15:42 He was on fire.

00:15:44 62.

00:15:45 It's crazy.

00:15:46 Hank, have you ever played a bogey free round?

00:15:47 Yeah.

00:15:49 Doubles and all doubles.

00:15:52 Yeah.

00:15:56 Okay.

00:15:56 Anything else?

00:15:57 We have awesome rest of the show back in studio.

00:15:59 We just wanted to make sure we updated, obviously, game six.

00:16:03 Anything else before we kick it to ourselves to talk more playoffs, NFL schedule, Randy

00:16:10 Moss and Pat Connerton.

00:16:11 We got any last thoughts?

00:16:12 I'm good.

00:16:13 Jason.

00:16:14 Jason Duffner is in the hunt.

00:16:15 I bet him.

00:16:16 I think it was like 50 bucks to win $10,000 if he finishes top 10.

00:16:21 So something to keep an eye on.

00:16:23 All right, Jason Duffner.

00:16:25 Duffner update.

00:16:26 Duffner update.

00:16:27 What are you going to say, Jake?

00:16:28 Didn't you say on the last show you wanted Michael Block to finish dead last?

00:16:32 I did, and he was for a minute, but I don't think he's dead last anymore.

00:16:35 That sucks.

00:16:36 Okay, so.

00:16:37 I didn't eat on the second hole.

00:16:39 I'm glad you brought Blocky up because he had a quad on number two, and then he's in

00:16:44 commercials all over the place.

00:16:46 He's like one of the faces of the PGA championship this year.

00:16:48 It's very funny.

00:16:49 Yeah, he does.

00:16:50 He looks more like if you kidnapped Ryan Rosillo and left him out in the sun for a week.

00:16:57 That's what Michael Block looks like.

00:16:59 Yeah, I forgot that John Daly plays this every year.

00:17:02 So John Daly is second to last, and Michael Block is far off finishing dead last.

00:17:08 But yeah, he sucks.

00:17:09 And the eight that he got was so funny because it just goes against everything if he had

00:17:15 worries distance because it was just him hitting it back and forth over the green.

00:17:20 Yeah, getting an eight.

00:17:21 Yeah.

00:17:22 Also with John Daly, it's awesome.

00:17:25 The setup that he has at the PGA championship is incredible.

00:17:28 He gets to drive a cart, so he's driving around, but his caddy has to walk.

00:17:33 So his caddy is carrying his bag, and then John Daly is just driving a car next to him,

00:17:38 not obeying cart path rules, driving all over the place.

00:17:40 It's awesome.

00:17:41 I love to see that at a big John.

00:17:42 And the reporter for the athletic Gabby Herzig said she tweeted this.

00:17:47 I overheard the volunteer with John Daly's group say that he went through two packs of

00:17:52 cigarettes, four snicker bars and two cokes today at Valhalla had to share two sodas.

00:17:57 What the fuck is wrong?

00:17:59 Should have been Pepsi.

00:18:00 Would have shot better.

00:18:02 Would have shot better.

00:18:02 That's a fact.

00:18:03 That's a wild ratio to a pack of cigarettes for every soda.

00:18:08 Yeah.

00:18:08 And also two snicker.

00:18:12 I think it would be even crazy to snicker bars for every pack of cigarettes.

00:18:17 Yeah.

00:18:18 You have four snickers bars.

00:18:20 How many cigarettes are there in a pack of cigarettes?

00:18:24 20.

00:18:24 There's 20.

00:18:25 So he smoked 40 cigarettes in 18 holes.

00:18:28 He smoked 10 cigarettes for every snickers bar.

00:18:30 That's fucking incredible.

00:18:32 He probably didn't even throw away the cans either.

00:18:40 They're just probably filled with cigarette butts.

00:18:42 Of course.

00:18:43 Of course.

00:18:44 Jake, have you ever smoked a cigarette?

00:18:46 Never in my life.

00:18:48 I have dip, though, with you.

00:18:49 Yeah, that's right.

00:18:50 Remember that.

00:18:51 Smoke a cig, Jake.

00:18:52 Look at you.

00:18:52 No, it's disgusting.

00:18:54 One of the worst.

00:18:54 It also wasn't as black Buffalo.

00:18:56 Yeah, that's true.

00:18:57 But yeah, we'll get you some cigarettes, Jake.

00:19:00 We'll just do one pack.

00:19:01 We'll make you look so cool.

00:19:02 What if we do a John Daly challenge?

00:19:04 40 cigarettes, 18 holes, two Pepsis, four snickers.

00:19:10 I think we got to do that as a video.

00:19:12 I think we got to do that as a video.

00:19:15 Now, John, I'm so in.

00:19:19 I think I'd probably eat the snickers bars before I even got past the first hole.

00:19:23 This is how my life goes.

00:19:25 I start smoking because of some stupid PMT related challenge.

00:19:31 Then I have to start vaping to quit smoking.

00:19:33 Then I have to start smoking to quit vaping.

00:19:36 And then I quit smoking.

00:19:37 And then we do another stupid PMT challenge.

00:19:39 I have to start smoking again.

00:19:40 Yeah.

00:19:42 All right.

00:19:42 Well, we're doing it.

00:19:44 We were on the simulator.

00:19:45 Okay, so I'm looking forward to the John Daly challenge.

00:19:53 Yeah, I am too.

00:19:54 This is gonna be great.

00:19:56 We should walk.

00:19:57 It'll give us a little more time.

00:19:58 Two blocks of cigarettes, four snickers, two cokes and 18 holes.

00:20:02 Pepsi sponsored by Hooters.

00:20:03 Two Pepsis.

00:20:05 Yeah, we got this.

00:20:06 This is no problem.

00:20:07 Okay, I'm happy we had one more thing to talk about.

00:20:10 Okay, great.

00:20:11 The block.

00:20:12 He led us to this.

00:20:13 We're going to smoke two pack cigarettes and play some golf.

00:20:16 And we got to try to think we got to beat John Daly score,

00:20:21 which we should be able to do if we did a scramble plus 16 plus 16.

00:20:25 What if we just did a full pack of cigarettes each?

00:20:29 Yeah, maybe me, you and Hank will do the John Daly challenge.

00:20:34 We got to finish.

00:20:35 That's actually what we should do.

00:20:36 We should do a three man scramble.

00:20:38 He shot 11.

00:20:39 Okay, so that actually makes it even more exciting.

00:20:43 We do the three man scramble, have to shoot 11, and we split the cigarettes,

00:20:50 the snickers bars and the Pepsis.

00:20:51 And if we don't do it, we have to just do it again right away.

00:20:54 If we don't score less than 11, we have to literally just start again the same time.

00:21:02 Just be like, all right, so we could have to smoke infinity packs of cigarettes.

00:21:06 What's so funny is that smoking 40 cigarettes in 18 holes is essentially what dads do to

00:21:12 their kids when they find you smoking for the first time.

00:21:14 They're like, oh, you like cigarettes?

00:21:16 Well, here, I bet you can't smoke 40 of them.

00:21:18 That's a casual afternoon at the links for John Daly.

00:21:23 All right.

00:21:24 I love this.

00:21:24 So, all right.

00:21:24 I think the final I think what we finally have to decide is I think it's 40 cigarettes.

00:21:29 I think we all should have to do the four snickers and two Pepsis individually.

00:21:33 And if we don't shoot better than 11, we have to go right back and start over.

00:21:38 Can I be honest with you?

00:21:39 Yeah, I think we all have to do the two packs.

00:21:42 Okay.

00:21:42 And if we don't shoot 11, we have to start over.

00:21:45 I don't know about that, but I would feel like I was cheating the game if I only smoked one pack.

00:21:53 Yeah, that's the hardest part of the challenge.

00:21:54 Easily.

00:21:56 You basically can't have a cigarette out of your hand.

00:21:59 You can't breathe.

00:22:01 You're just breathing there.

00:22:03 Yeah, you have no time to stop smoking a cigarette.

00:22:08 John Daly is essentially training at altitude every time he plays around the golf because

00:22:12 he's not getting any oxygen.

00:22:13 Oh, geez.

00:22:16 If we do this, you might not finish the second pack, though.

00:22:19 We should say that we probably should get a clarification.

00:22:22 If anyone can get us an actual amount of cigarettes smoked in the 18 holes, that would help because

00:22:27 two packs of cigarettes doesn't like it could have been he needed a second pack,

00:22:31 but he didn't get all the way through it.

00:22:33 Yeah.

00:22:33 So who reported this?

00:22:34 Gabby Herzig.

00:22:36 Okay, if anybody out there knows Gabby Herzig.

00:22:38 Oh, she follows me.

00:22:40 I'll hit her up.

00:22:41 Okay, we need to get the exact number of cigarettes or as close to it as possible.

00:22:46 Okay, this is going to be fun.

00:22:49 Hey, quick question.

00:22:50 Do you know exactly how many cigarettes John Daly smoked?

00:22:52 Was it a pack and a half, a pack and a quarter or like a full bona fide two packs of cigarettes?

00:23:00 Okay.

00:23:02 All right, we'll get an answer.

00:23:05 We go on for the Canucks.

00:23:06 He just scored.

00:23:07 Oh, we did.

00:23:09 Oh, fuck.

00:23:11 I told you.

00:23:13 I know you did.

00:23:14 No, no, I'm not blaming you, Jake.

00:23:15 I'm not blaming you.

00:23:16 You did.

00:23:17 So I didn't really have.

00:23:20 Damn it.

00:23:24 Yeah, that game's a two to right now.

00:23:26 We'll talk about it on Sunday.

00:23:27 Okay, let's kick it back to ourselves.

00:23:33 Okay, we're back in studio and Henry Lockwood, you didn't beat the Cavs by triple digi,

00:23:42 but you did get rid of the Cavaliers, ended their season.

00:23:47 More importantly, you look well rested.

00:23:49 You look well rested.

00:23:50 We'll get to it on Firefest.

00:23:51 The Cavs are gone.

00:23:54 They also got shammed again.

00:23:57 This is, I think, the third one that's happened.

00:23:59 The body wasn't even cold yet.

00:24:01 It was maybe 30 minutes after the Cavs get bounced.

00:24:05 He posts a deep dive into the Cleveland Cavaliers and JB Bickerstaff, which, by the way, he doesn't

00:24:12 get enough credit for having the worst coach name of all time.

00:24:14 JB Bickerstaff.

00:24:15 It's kind of fun to say, though.

00:24:16 But it's literally his coaching staff is bickering.

00:24:19 Yes.

00:24:19 They're upset at each other.

00:24:20 But yeah, the sham's breakdown was, so they lose.

00:24:27 JB Bickerstaff goes back into the locker room and probably pulls up his phone.

00:24:31 He's like, all right, I guess I got to figure out my vacation.

00:24:34 We went to the second round.

00:24:35 First time we won a playoff series without LeBron James since 1993.

00:24:41 It goes on the internet.

00:24:43 And it's just this entire story how he got undressed by Kobe Altman, the team president.

00:24:48 No one really respected him.

00:24:50 Donovan Mitchell doesn't really like him.

00:24:52 Jared Allen might be a wimp.

00:24:56 And you mean figuratively undressed by the team president?

00:24:59 Yes.

00:24:59 Okay, good.

00:25:00 So yeah, it's got to be weird for him to go through that.

00:25:03 If we're putting our conspiracy hats on and we're speculating, like we talked with Woj about,

00:25:07 did LeBron plant this?

00:25:09 LeBron courtside, maybe trying to elbow the coach out, elbow his way in.

00:25:14 Now, one thing we didn't talk about with LeBron courtside,

00:25:16 I think he had his own personal bottle of wine with him.

00:25:20 Always does.

00:25:20 Yeah.

00:25:21 So you're allowed to do that.

00:25:21 You can BYOW if you're LeBron James to an NBA game.

00:25:25 Hold on, hold on a second, hold on a second.

00:25:27 Yeah.

00:25:27 So wait.

00:25:27 Let's get into it.

00:25:28 All right.

00:25:29 So LeBron is going to go back to the Cavs.

00:25:31 Yeah.

00:25:32 LeBron has a podcast with J.J. Reddick.

00:25:35 LeBron wants to make the podcast even bigger.

00:25:40 LeBron gets J.J. Reddick hired by the Lakers, tells J.J. Reddick, I'm going to get you the

00:25:46 Lakers job, but I'm not going to be here.

00:25:49 But at least you have the Lakers job.

00:25:50 And now expectations are a little different.

00:25:53 You can have this Lakers job for a while.

00:25:55 You still have Anthony Davis.

00:25:55 You have all this Cavs face.

00:25:56 LeBron knows that he's a coach killer.

00:25:58 So he's like, you know what?

00:25:59 I'm going to put you in a position to succeed because you're my buddy.

00:26:03 We can't be on the same team and do this podcast.

00:26:06 I am going to go to Cleveland and I'll get a different coach.

00:26:08 So LeBron is actually trying to get two coaches hired right now.

00:26:10 Is that actually his way of finally giving back to the coaching community?

00:26:13 I mean, that would be...

00:26:14 Well, no, because he also got two coaches fired if that's the case.

00:26:17 Yeah.

00:26:18 But he's like, it's kind of...

00:26:20 He's trying to restore his karma by getting two coaches hired in the same cycle.

00:26:25 He's a job creator.

00:26:26 Yeah.

00:26:27 Well, yeah.

00:26:27 But again, he's getting the two coaches hired because he got two coaches fired.

00:26:31 Wait, what other coach?

00:26:32 Hypothetically.

00:26:33 Oh, and Bickerstaff.

00:26:35 And Bickerstaff.

00:26:36 Yes, correct.

00:26:37 So he is creating new jobs, but he's also eliminating old jobs.

00:26:40 So he's actually carbon neutral.

00:26:43 Carbon neutral.

00:26:43 But again, none of this might happen.

00:26:45 None of this might happen.

00:26:46 So yeah.

00:26:46 But it's fun.

00:26:47 But it's fun to think about.

00:26:48 But JB Bickerstaff probably...

00:26:50 I think that Choms has something like this ready to go for every team now that gets bounced.

00:26:54 I'm going to be disappointed if either...

00:26:56 You know, if the Nuggets beat the Timberwolves, the Timberwolves get bounced.

00:27:00 If he doesn't have one ready to go for the Timberwolves, if he doesn't have one ready

00:27:03 to go for the Thunder or maybe the Mavericks.

00:27:05 I want to see the immediate post-mortems on every team.

00:27:10 Like, here's why they always knew it wasn't going to work.

00:27:13 Rudy...

00:27:13 If I were Rudy Gobert or Carl Anthony Towns, I'd like pull a fire alarm tonight trying

00:27:17 to just extend the series because I feel like it's going to go with them.

00:27:21 No, you got to be a source.

00:27:22 You got to be the one.

00:27:24 You got to have your narrative out there.

00:27:25 We actually...

00:27:27 We should release that this podcast is splitting up and see if Choms just posts an article.

00:27:32 Imagine if we just did that and it was just all Hank's quotes.

00:27:35 What the fuck, dude?

00:27:37 Yeah.

00:27:37 Why did you do this?

00:27:38 That'd be good.

00:27:39 Late night recordings.

00:27:40 We need that on Inside the NBA too.

00:27:42 Yeah.

00:27:43 Like, give us...

00:27:44 Oh yeah.

00:27:44 We're starting to like allude to it, which is sad.

00:27:46 They're not even alluding to it.

00:27:48 They're just saying it.

00:27:48 Charles Barkley's like, "I think we're done."

00:27:51 Yeah, the show's over.

00:27:52 I hope they do a gone fishing for themselves.

00:27:55 Yeah.

00:27:56 It sucks because it seems like it's...

00:27:57 I actually have a take.

00:28:00 I love Ernie Johnson.

00:28:01 He's awesome.

00:28:02 He is the point guard to that.

00:28:04 The stars of the show are Kenny and Chuck.

00:28:08 It will be weird if...

00:28:10 Because I think what Chuck has basically been saying is like, "He'll go somewhere else.

00:28:14 Ernie Johnson won't."

00:28:16 Which will suck because you don't want to break up the chemistry, but I still think

00:28:19 if you have to replace one person, you can replace him and probably keep going.

00:28:24 Probably, but Ernie Johnson is the perfect-

00:28:26 He's perfect.

00:28:26 For that show.

00:28:27 Absolutely perfect.

00:28:28 I love how everyone's talking about him.

00:28:29 Like, he is a Turner lifer.

00:28:31 He's going to work for that Turner company until the day he dies.

00:28:33 Yeah, like Ernie, it's okay to not be a Turner lifer.

00:28:36 Let us keep enjoying the show that you've built and has been phenomenal.

00:28:40 No one's going to be like, "Oh man, how'd you turn your back on Turner?"

00:28:43 Yeah, so I guess it all depends on what either network or service gets the NBA and who they can

00:28:49 hire.

00:28:50 I'm pretty sure it's NBC.

00:28:51 I think it's NBC.

00:28:52 It's definitely going to be NBC.

00:28:53 I think it's pretty much NBC, yeah.

00:28:55 So who's going to do it from NBC?

00:28:56 Jack Collins works.

00:28:59 I was going to say Tony Dungy.

00:29:00 Mike Florio.

00:29:01 Get him out.

00:29:02 Tony Romo.

00:29:02 Tariko works there.

00:29:04 Tariko.

00:29:05 I don't think Tariko would be that good.

00:29:06 He's good at everything.

00:29:08 They would...

00:29:09 That's not true.

00:29:09 Talking to women.

00:29:11 Staying away from women.

00:29:12 Yeah.

00:29:13 Jake, you walked yourself into that one.

00:29:18 You literally just were like, "Hey guys, here, let me put the ball on the tee."

00:29:22 Tariko's a great guy.

00:29:22 Yeah, let me put the ball on the tee.

00:29:24 Okay.

00:29:26 Great broadcaster, even better human being.

00:29:30 Randy Moss.

00:29:30 Oh yeah.

00:29:31 That would be sick.

00:29:33 Our Randy Moss.

00:29:34 Yeah, our Randy Moss.

00:29:34 Our Randy Moss would be excellent at that job.

00:29:36 No Eagle.

00:29:37 Florio.

00:29:38 I'd like to see Florio do it for a day.

00:29:40 He'd be so upset.

00:29:41 He'd be like, "You guys are talking in hypotheticals.

00:29:44 Get back to the facts."

00:29:45 No, Florio would throw out some of his little NBA fit.

00:29:48 Yeah, true.

00:29:48 Yeah, you're right.

00:29:49 We actually do need to unleash Mike Florio's brain on the NBA.

00:29:52 That would be fun.

00:29:53 Okay, I take it back.

00:29:54 Florio would be perfect for that show.

00:29:57 Okay, other game.

00:29:58 So, oh, sorry, Hank.

00:29:59 We covered it.

00:30:02 Congrats, Hank, your Celtics cakewalk.

00:30:04 In our defense, we don't know whether you're going to show up to the show anymore.

00:30:08 So we have no idea if you're sitting here, if this is AI Hank.

00:30:11 Hank, the Celtics.

00:30:14 It was a good one.

00:30:14 The Cavs fought hard.

00:30:16 Marcus Morris, career game.

00:30:17 They were close for the first three quarters.

00:30:22 Celtics closed it out, almost covered.

00:30:24 1-15.

00:30:26 I don't give a fuck about anyone that says that their path is easy.

00:30:30 Like, there's nothing that the Celtics can do about that.

00:30:33 All they can do is beat the teams in front of them, and that's what we're going to do.

00:30:36 We're going to smoke New York, maybe in the end if New York absolutely chokes the rest

00:30:40 of the series.

00:30:41 But who cares?

00:30:43 Like, it's not a valid excuse for people to be like, oh, like Cupcake, Mickey Mouse, you

00:30:48 know, Eastern Conference run.

00:30:49 Who cares?

00:30:51 What are we supposed to do?

00:30:52 If you're winning games, it's fine.

00:30:54 You're winning series 4-1.

00:30:56 Pretty good.

00:30:57 There are going to be some hiccup games for sure.

00:30:59 And we talked about Jalen and Jason kind of going after each other with the chest slap.

00:31:05 Do you see Jalen got him back?

00:31:07 After Jason Tandem hit that big shot towards the end of the game, Jalen went up to him,

00:31:12 slapped him in the chest really hard.

00:31:14 They laughed about it, had a good time.

00:31:15 They're bros again.

00:31:16 Yeah.

00:31:17 Jalen Brown just needs, like, every single day in these off days, just 1,000, 2,000,

00:31:22 3,000, 4,000, 5,000 free throws.

00:31:25 Just a lot of free throws.

00:31:27 What about his left hand?

00:31:28 That's okay.

00:31:29 That's a little bit of an overrated thing.

00:31:32 The free throws is real, and the free throws are scary.

00:31:35 He was 2-4 last night.

00:31:36 It's just crazy that it was like this, you know, three years ago, two years ago, last year.

00:31:41 There's no confidence with him going to the line.

00:31:45 Watching as a fan, and it feels like him as a player, which is just a nightmare scenario when,

00:31:51 you know, we are playing a good team, fully healthy team, close games, every point matters.

00:31:56 That's-- I'm not even worried about the Knicks.

00:32:00 I'm worried about our free throw making.

00:32:03 So, are you worried a little bit about Jerry O'Connell?

00:32:05 Bing bong.

00:32:07 Bing bong.

00:32:07 Bing bong, Henry.

00:32:08 Bing bong, Henry.

00:32:09 Bing bong.

00:32:10 No, I love Jerry.

00:32:11 I welcome him with open arms.

00:32:13 Here you go.

00:32:14 Our friend Kirk tweeted this the other day, Kirk Minahan.

00:32:18 Walk around with this in your back pocket.

00:32:21 87 Lakers, path to the finals.

00:32:23 They beat a 37-45 Suns team, a 42-40 Nuggets team, and a 36-46 Sonics team.

00:32:30 Just go around and say that.

00:32:31 Have that in the card.

00:32:32 Who cares?

00:32:33 Who cares?

00:32:34 You play who's in front of you.

00:32:35 Path to the finals does not matter.

00:32:36 That's the perfect thing for Kirk to put out there too.

00:32:38 It's like a 1980s team.

00:32:40 Yeah, right.

00:32:40 Yeah.

00:32:40 But like, are they going to take away Magic Johnson's title there?

00:32:43 Nope, no one says that.

00:32:44 Right.

00:32:45 So, who cares?

00:32:46 Happy you stayed cocky.

00:32:48 Happy you're here today.

00:32:49 Thanks.

00:32:49 Yeah.

00:32:49 Other game.

00:32:50 Luka, he hurt all that junk.

00:32:54 He's not hurt anymore.

00:32:55 No, he's still very hurt.

00:32:57 So, they put up a great graphic last night.

00:33:01 It was the Big Ben graphic.

00:33:02 He is the new Big Ben.

00:33:03 Yep.

00:33:04 Right knee sprain, left knee soreness, back soreness, left Achilles soreness.

00:33:09 His teeth hurt, and he has a parrot and its head's falling off.

00:33:14 I think the teeth hurt.

00:33:15 You got to get that checked out.

00:33:17 Yeah, the teeth.

00:33:18 The teeth is bad.

00:33:18 Teeth pain is bad.

00:33:20 IR from teeth.

00:33:21 I think he got hit in his teeth.

00:33:23 It's not like it's a toothache.

00:33:24 If you have a toothache, you can't do anything.

00:33:26 No, but he had a triple double.

00:33:27 He looked awesome.

00:33:29 Hank, you okay over there?

00:33:31 He's choked on some water.

00:33:32 He choked.

00:33:33 You okay?

00:33:34 That's a grind.

00:33:35 Do you mean drown?

00:33:36 It's a grind.

00:33:37 This job's a grind.

00:33:38 Hank almost drowned drinking a body armor.

00:33:41 We're good.

00:33:43 The Thunder, after game four, I was like, oh, they earned their stripes.

00:33:48 They're back to not having any stripes anymore because besides Shea Gildershaw Alexander,

00:33:52 they look like the moment is too big.

00:33:54 Jalen Williams has been bad.

00:33:56 He needs to be really good.

00:33:58 And I'm just so sick of watching the Thunder pump fake on every single possession and then

00:34:03 pass and then drive to the middle and then pass and then miss a three.

00:34:06 Yeah.

00:34:06 So their three point shooting the last two games has been atrocious, and they're not

00:34:10 going to win this series if they shoot 25% from three.

00:34:13 They have to be lights out from three and then they can win.

00:34:16 I don't think they're dead yet.

00:34:17 No, but they just they have not had anyone besides Shea Gildershaw Alexander in the last.

00:34:23 Like Jalen Williams is one of their best players.

00:34:26 He needs to step up.

00:34:27 Like stop pump faking.

00:34:29 He it feels like there's a crisis of confidence, which you could totally understand for a young

00:34:33 team.

00:34:34 And Shea Gildershaw Alexander is a little bit older than the other guys where he's been

00:34:38 through a little bit more.

00:34:39 So he has the confidence.

00:34:41 But the young guys are being like this moment feels too big.

00:34:44 Either way, it's OK for the Thunder in the future.

00:34:49 But right now and I am back to they did the hack a shack again.

00:34:54 Shout out Derek Lively going five for six from six from the free throw line, just shoving

00:34:58 it in their face.

00:34:59 But yeah, the Mavs Mavs are a little dangerous.

00:35:03 Hank, their defense is really good.

00:35:05 Yeah, I hope they can beat the Nuggets.

00:35:08 I think they're good.

00:35:09 OK, and like, can I do?

00:35:12 I think they'll be the Nuggets now.

00:35:13 And I feel like they have all their role players are stepping up in like big PJ Washington

00:35:18 has been great.

00:35:19 He didn't have he had 10 points on Wednesday night, but like Derek Jones has been awesome.

00:35:25 That block and then dunk sequence with like two minutes left, which basically the game

00:35:29 was over.

00:35:30 But it was like that was the dagger.

00:35:31 Kyrie's not even scoring and they're and they're playing well.

00:35:35 You think they have a chance against the Nuggets on?

00:35:38 I know.

00:35:39 Think if Luca blacks out every game.

00:35:42 Yeah, 50.

00:35:44 But or Kyrie.

00:35:45 But that's a chance.

00:35:46 That's the beauty of the NBA playoffs.

00:35:48 If you have a worse chance than the Timberwolves.

00:35:50 Worse, I think a worse chance.

00:35:53 I think there's definitely a high likelihood.

00:35:56 In fact, I think it's probably going to happen where either Luca or Kyrie, maybe both of

00:36:00 them have one game where they just go insane and they win a game.

00:36:03 I don't think it's going to be a sweep.

00:36:04 I don't think it's going to be for one, but I would have the Nuggets like Nuggets Nuggets

00:36:07 and six Nuggets and seven.

00:36:09 I think they have might have a better chance just because the Luca factor.

00:36:12 Anytime you have a guy like Luca, who is a superstar and you're like, if he just plays

00:36:17 a suck it off, Anthony Anderson after game one and two, always superstars.

00:36:21 Well, he's the star is just a big three has so much better than Jason.

00:36:24 Oh, wow.

00:36:25 OK, so now we know the I mean, the suck off fest was insane.

00:36:30 And we had the Nuggets.

00:36:31 Well, I know where to be.

00:36:32 Already know whether the wolves are dead or not, because you listen to the beginning of

00:36:35 the show.

00:36:36 I I OK, they're dead.

00:36:39 Also, an underrated part of a show was when we asked Hank how it went between the Nuggets

00:36:45 and the Timberwolves when we recorded in studio and he was like bad.

00:36:49 Like, what do you mean?

00:36:51 Just bad.

00:36:51 It was bad.

00:36:52 Nothing good at the beginning of the show.

00:36:54 Nothing good.

00:36:55 Yeah, that's right.

00:36:57 You don't think Luca, though?

00:36:58 It's a long shot, but Luca is one in that group of guys that it's like if he just goes

00:37:05 insane.

00:37:05 Anything can happen.

00:37:07 Yeah, I mean, Kyrie's kind of in there, too.

00:37:09 I just know it's just obviously higher than that.

00:37:12 Yeah, Jokic is bigger like if Jokic goes insane and Luca goes insane, the Nuggets win.

00:37:18 I'm just saying that if Luca has that.

00:37:21 Few guys in the league that's like they could control a series if they just play out of

00:37:27 their minds.

00:37:28 That's where his ceiling is.

00:37:29 I hope he does.

00:37:30 OK, yeah, I think that the Nuggets have even like four of those guys where if they have

00:37:35 they're capable of having incredible nights and when they do, they're probably going to

00:37:39 win.

00:37:40 I just think that the Nuggets have too much talent for the Mavericks.

00:37:43 Uh, OK, hockey, the Avs fought back.

00:37:47 People said that I was there's been injuries with the Avs.

00:37:50 I was wrong to say to crown the stars.

00:37:52 I still think the Stars can win this series.

00:37:54 I said that I said to look out for the Avs, but my opinion is solely based on spitting

00:37:58 chicklets.

00:37:58 Yeah, that's right.

00:37:59 That was pre pre playoffs opinion.

00:38:03 I know it's pre this series.

00:38:04 OK, before the series, my mind's pre playoffs opinion from Ryan Whitney saying the Stars

00:38:08 are the best team.

00:38:09 Yeah, Stars are.

00:38:10 But but also these two teams like this, whoever wins the series might they're probably gonna

00:38:15 be the favorite to come out of the West.

00:38:16 Yeah.

00:38:16 OK, so we should talk about the NFL schedule release.

00:38:21 We finally have the schedule release.

00:38:22 I have a real old man yells at cloud take.

00:38:26 I think Hank agrees with me.

00:38:28 I don't know where you are.

00:38:28 PFT.

00:38:29 Are you talking about teams getting too cute with it?

00:38:31 I'm talking about the entire thing.

00:38:34 I'm talking about the leaks.

00:38:36 I'm talking about the intentional leaks, the unintentional leaks, the release of the release

00:38:43 of the schedule.

00:38:44 I'm kind of over all of it.

00:38:47 I I actually wish the NFL would go to a system where we don't even know when it's coming

00:38:52 out and it's just a random Tuesday afternoon.

00:38:55 The schedule is out because the surprise of it would be awesome.

00:38:59 This just feels like it's gotten to a point where it's so everyone's like I got to be

00:39:04 cute.

00:39:04 Every team accounts got to be cute.

00:39:06 And we know so much of the schedule before the schedule even gets take put out there

00:39:11 that the moment just doesn't like seven o'clock hit.

00:39:14 I had known the bear schedule for what, seven hours.

00:39:18 So what we have to do is we have to have fake releases that come out.

00:39:22 So that way you you can't trust in the leaks that you see.

00:39:25 But or just I'm saying like 11 o'clock.

00:39:29 Like if if if Schefter hadn't tweeted this last week and I know they have to make it

00:39:33 entertainment, they have to make a TV show.

00:39:34 I get it.

00:39:35 It's never going to change.

00:39:36 But I think it would rock if at like 11 o'clock on this this week, Tuesday, you just got a

00:39:42 tweet from the NFL being like schedules are out.

00:39:44 Go check your schedule out now.

00:39:46 It's like, holy shit.

00:39:47 Yeah.

00:39:47 From a fan perspective, also, it would be electric if they just announced next week

00:39:51 schedule during that break between the afternoon games and Sunday night football.

00:39:55 Yeah, we said the selection show.

00:39:56 So just yeah, but it's every week.

00:39:58 Yeah, every week you get to determine you get to figure out who you're playing the next

00:40:01 week.

00:40:01 Then then you have like even if you lose your game on Sunday and you're depressed because

00:40:06 your team just lost, you get to have something to look forward to.

00:40:09 Like, let's find out who we're playing tonight.

00:40:11 It would never happen because of travel and all that.

00:40:12 Right.

00:40:13 But it's become a big production.

00:40:16 Yeah, for sure.

00:40:16 I honestly did not know why they had a big show around the schedule release because the

00:40:22 event is the schedules out there.

00:40:24 That's that's like a one and done thing.

00:40:27 Right.

00:40:28 It's like you then you sit and you go through all the schedules.

00:40:31 You talk about your favorite matchups over the course of the season.

00:40:33 To me that it feels like it's a big production, but that's what the NFL does.

00:40:38 Right.

00:40:38 And they're like, we can we can dominate one more night of the week in the middle of May.

00:40:42 Yeah, let's let's just pull all of our marketing initiatives put into that.

00:40:46 And then all the team accounts do it because obviously social impressions mean a lot to

00:40:51 the value of the team.

00:40:52 Right.

00:40:52 So it becomes like, yeah, it's like prom.

00:40:54 It's nerd prom.

00:40:55 Well, what it is, I was on with our guys, Randy and Bill today on Pittsburgh Radio,

00:41:00 and we were talking about the schedule release and how it's gotten so crazy.

00:41:03 It's essentially the NFL.

00:41:04 It just has stepped on our drugs so much and we just keep taking it.

00:41:08 They're like, hey, we're going to just we're going to we're going to make you watch the

00:41:12 schedule release in the middle of May.

00:41:13 Hey, we're going to make you watch Friday football in Brazil.

00:41:17 Hey, how about Wednesday football?

00:41:19 We're they're throwing the baby powder, all that.

00:41:22 And we're like, yeah, fine, we'll take it.

00:41:23 Yeah, take all give it to us.

00:41:24 I'll take all of it.

00:41:25 Yeah.

00:41:25 And yeah, you're right.

00:41:26 The announcement of when the schedule will be released, the build up to the release,

00:41:30 the leaks into the release.

00:41:32 If you just if you got to dial it back, Mark Cuban said pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered.

00:41:37 Right.

00:41:38 Turns out he was kind of wrong on that because the NFL is doing really, really good.

00:41:41 Actually, from that moment on, it's gotten like so much bigger.

00:41:44 And also hogs are delicious.

00:41:46 Yes.

00:41:46 I eat a hog.

00:41:47 I don't eat a pig.

00:41:48 Slaughtering hogs.

00:41:50 Great.

00:41:50 The fatter, the better.

00:41:51 Yeah.

00:41:51 But yeah, it does feel like they're getting they're getting high on their own supply a

00:41:55 little bit.

00:41:56 But I hate being in the spot.

00:41:58 We're going to keep consuming that shit.

00:42:00 Right.

00:42:00 Like, I hate being in the spot where I'm like, oh, this is too much because it's just the

00:42:05 being the cynical guy sucks.

00:42:06 But it just felt a little too much.

00:42:09 Well, I feel like in the past it was a team force this year where it seemed like there

00:42:14 was a mandate from every team to try and do something really creative in the past.

00:42:18 It was like some teams just release their schedules, some teams to do something funny,

00:42:22 some teams would just do like a generic schedule release video.

00:42:25 This year was everyone seemed to be like, you have a budget and do something crazy.

00:42:29 And some of them were so corny that it was like, this is bad.

00:42:34 And some of them.

00:42:35 But the Patriots one was Patriots one was fantastic.

00:42:37 So Edelman killed it.

00:42:38 Yeah.

00:42:38 Ron killed it.

00:42:40 Patriots.

00:42:40 Adams.

00:42:41 Patriots was great.

00:42:42 The Patriots one was great.

00:42:44 The Chargers obviously are the gold standard.

00:42:47 The Titans did something great last year and like, let's run it back.

00:42:50 I love that.

00:42:51 Yeah, that's fine.

00:42:52 Like it worked.

00:42:52 Let's do it again.

00:42:53 Stavi.

00:42:54 We love Stavi.

00:42:55 That was great.

00:42:56 There were so many, though, that were just confusing.

00:42:59 Like it's because there's 32 of them and they all come out at the exact same time.

00:43:02 Right.

00:43:03 Like you were in the Cowboys when I was in the Packers one.

00:43:06 I didn't understand the Packers one at all.

00:43:07 It's such a sad thing for this podcast that our biggest rivals just call us up and they're

00:43:12 like, hey, hey, you guys are such losers that we want to use your face in our marketing

00:43:16 initiative.

00:43:17 The Cowboys one, though, like they used two.

00:43:19 I didn't understand.

00:43:20 I was getting confused because they used they did two people per game.

00:43:25 No, some of them.

00:43:27 Well, no, we play.

00:43:29 So the commanders play against the Cowboys twice.

00:43:31 And so they had me and RG three.

00:43:34 I went first.

00:43:34 No big deal.

00:43:35 Was in that home game or theirs?

00:43:37 I like the line.

00:43:40 I think I was the home game for the Cowboys.

00:43:43 I was the commander's home game.

00:43:44 That's against them.

00:43:45 Well, RG three doesn't do so well.

00:43:46 That's from the FedEx field turf.

00:43:48 I'm pretty sure for the Lions, they had like someone Jerry Jones calling someone from the

00:43:51 lines and right after Tim and Post Malone calling someone from my personal friend post.

00:43:56 Yeah, it was a little it was a little confusing.

00:44:00 Yeah, there were some confusing videos out there.

00:44:02 It's like yours.

00:44:03 You had a pack schedules.

00:44:04 I made no sense.

00:44:05 I was watching for you.

00:44:06 Be like, please show up soon.

00:44:08 It was Joe Buck and me back to back.

00:44:09 It was I was thinking about a PFT because I wrestled with it.

00:44:13 I actually didn't know you were doing the Cowboys until I was I basically walked around

00:44:17 this office being like, should I do this?

00:44:19 I feel like they're going to set me up.

00:44:21 And then Hank was like, well, PFT is doing the Cowboys ones.

00:44:23 You might as well.

00:44:24 But I'm okay with not being asked by the Bears because I'm honest about the Bears.

00:44:28 I've said some things about the Bears that the Bears probably don't like.

00:44:31 There's probably people in the building that are like that guy has said some things about

00:44:36 ownership, about the team, about the franchise, whatever Packers.

00:44:40 I've just been I hate their fucking guts and they know that.

00:44:44 And so it's like, all right, we can let this guy say that he hates their fucking guts.

00:44:48 Yeah.

00:44:48 I mean, it was a cool thing to be involved with.

00:44:50 But at the same time, it was like the Cowboys are just they know that they have dominated

00:44:55 the commanders recently and they want me to be the face of losers.

00:44:57 And I'm happy to do that.

00:44:58 I was negotiating with the Packers like it was a terrorist negotiation because they hit

00:45:03 me up and immediately I said no.

00:45:05 And they're like, well, let us just send you the idea.

00:45:07 They sent me the idea and I was like, I'm not going to do it like this.

00:45:10 I'm going to do it my way.

00:45:11 I'm going to send you a video if you want to use it.

00:45:12 Fine.

00:45:13 That's good.

00:45:13 I was like, I'm just going to say, fuck you guys, because I can't do it any other.

00:45:17 I'm not going to I wasn't going to play the Cowboys a little game.

00:45:19 Right.

00:45:20 Oh, no, the Cowboys.

00:45:21 Oh, I can't believe that.

00:45:22 I put on my Dan Quinn backwards hat.

00:45:24 Yeah.

00:45:24 And I was like, we got your leader.

00:45:25 They edited that out.

00:45:27 Probably smart on their part.

00:45:28 Yeah.

00:45:28 But yeah, I think they edited out me saying I hope Jordan Love gets hit by a bus.

00:45:32 Yeah, it's probably smart.

00:45:33 Listen, we're going to fight fire with fire.

00:45:35 Iron sharpens iron.

00:45:36 We made your team work a little bit harder for that release.

00:45:39 I liked what the Chargers did with the Sims.

00:45:41 I had an idea for the Chargers that I think that they should have used.

00:45:44 They should have had Connor Stallions on a Twitch stream on Expedia, looking up tickets

00:45:52 and game time, looking up like flights and tickets to all their opponents the week before

00:45:56 the Chargers were going to play them.

00:45:58 That would have been good.

00:45:59 Or if you want to dial it back, the Chargers should have had Harbaugh just hand him the

00:46:04 schedule and just have Harbaugh read the schedule into the camera.

00:46:07 Yeah.

00:46:07 And just pure Harbaugh.

00:46:08 Yeah.

00:46:08 Just get that.

00:46:09 But yeah, they were good.

00:46:11 Next year, we should probably make our own cheesy schedule release.

00:46:14 Part of my take.

00:46:16 Schedule release.

00:46:17 Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

00:46:18 Wednesday.

00:46:18 Friday.

00:46:19 I also, they used to film during the day.

00:46:21 I don't know.

00:46:23 The whole thing has become.

00:46:23 It was definitely not a prime time.

00:46:25 Every team was like, tonight, eight o'clock, teaser.

00:46:28 Like they overhyped it.

00:46:30 I know.

00:46:31 I hate being, I just really hate because it was a fun thing where you're right, Hank.

00:46:35 It was the perfect mix of like, say, half the league just released their schedule and

00:46:40 half the league tried something.

00:46:41 Now everyone's trying something.

00:46:42 And so many of them don't hit that.

00:46:43 You're like, this is weird.

00:46:44 They're going to do it.

00:46:46 They're going to end up doing it like staggered where, okay, NFC East, all their teams released

00:46:50 a schedule at 7 PM.

00:46:52 Yeah.

00:46:52 AFC East 715.

00:46:54 It's going to be like the bracket show.

00:46:56 Yeah.

00:46:57 This is my first real season, just accepting being a huge loser fan.

00:47:02 Oh, you're actually accepting it.

00:47:05 Yeah.

00:47:05 No, it's going to be a long season.

00:47:08 And I had the realization that I was, I loved the video so much.

00:47:11 And I was like, this is going to be the highlight of the year.

00:47:15 Yeah.

00:47:16 You're going to start looking forward to this day.

00:47:17 I know in like November, I'm going to look back and be like, ah, that's not true.

00:47:21 Remember when we, like how funny this was.

00:47:23 That's not true for Drake.

00:47:24 Drake made his first long bomb will be the highlight of your year.

00:47:27 Yeah.

00:47:28 But no, Hank's right.

00:47:29 It's going to be like, we had four losing seasons in a row, but you know what?

00:47:33 We won the internet.

00:47:34 People were telling us we won the internet, sir.

00:47:36 Oh, you are a loser now.

00:47:38 I know.

00:47:38 Yeah.

00:47:38 That is the biggest loser thing because I've been there.

00:47:40 I know.

00:47:41 Yeah.

00:47:41 We're winning the off season.

00:47:43 Oh, nothing better.

00:47:44 Hang the banner.

00:47:46 Oh yeah.

00:47:46 You're going to start fantasizing about wide receiver free agents.

00:47:49 Yeah.

00:47:50 Yeah.

00:47:50 I mean, we're going to be looking at tanking or not tanking, but it's going to be, I'll

00:47:54 be watching college football probably closer than ever before this year.

00:47:57 I thought that the Panthers should have had David Tepper just walking around up to people

00:48:01 that were wearing different, like different strangers wearing hats of all their teams

00:48:05 and going up and taking their hats off them and then showing it to the camera week one.

00:48:08 Yeah.

00:48:09 That would have been good.

00:48:10 Throwing drinks.

00:48:10 What if he just threw a drink in someone's face and then the logo came up?

00:48:14 Yeah.

00:48:14 I like that too.

00:48:15 Yeah.

00:48:15 As for the actual schedule, we had the top top 10 easiest schedules this year, which I

00:48:22 guess we kind of knew because we already knew the opponents, but Falcons, Chargers, Bears,

00:48:26 Jets, Saints, memes, we are, by the way, do you want to talk real quick about the pervert

00:48:33 sicko Henry Lockwood and what he's going to probably do to us this year?

00:48:36 Because the Jets and the Bears first two months are very winnable and then they get difficult.

00:48:46 So the ride that we could potentially go on here, memes is quite something.

00:48:51 If we beat the Niners, it's all.

00:48:54 Yeah.

00:48:56 We could start five now.

00:48:57 Monday night.

00:48:59 Have you, has the FBI reached out to you yet, memes?

00:49:02 Not yet.

00:49:03 Because only if he gets season ending injury then.

00:49:07 So you've got, you went from being like super depressed, threatening to strap a bomb on

00:49:11 your chest two days ago to now you're like, we're going to win that game.

00:49:15 If, if.

00:49:17 I'm just saying if.

00:49:18 The 49ers are really fucking good.

00:49:20 And the Jets do, I think they have six primetime games, but they also do start with an easier

00:49:24 schedule.

00:49:25 The Bears start, we don't play a division game until week 10 and we have some very winnable

00:49:32 games in the first two months.

00:49:34 No primetime though.

00:49:35 What do you mean?

00:49:36 Or no, like, I guess they have the.

00:49:38 We're playing.

00:49:39 London and.

00:49:40 Well, no week two, Sunday night football against CJ Stroud in Texas.

00:49:42 Is there any other primetime though?

00:49:45 Yeah, there's a month.

00:49:46 The Bears have a Monday night football game against the Vikings and they have London and

00:49:51 then Thursday night against the Seahawks and Lions Thanksgiving day.

00:49:56 And all the flex.

00:49:57 I did think we would get like one or more or two more Monday night footballs.

00:50:01 Did the flex scheduling become more complicated this off season?

00:50:04 Because they put out the rules for like which games can be flexed.

00:50:06 It felt like there were like, I don't know, like four or five different scenarios where

00:50:11 it's like.

00:50:11 I'm not sure.

00:50:12 Week six through 10, you can do this.

00:50:13 Weeks 11 through 17, you can do two of these unless one is taken earlier.

00:50:17 It was.

00:50:17 It was very complicated to follow, but I think it's good that you have the opportunity if

00:50:22 there is a big injury like there was last year with Aaron Rodgers.

00:50:25 Like I would prefer not to have to watch the Jets in primetime all the time.

00:50:28 Yeah, yeah, I agree.

00:50:30 We in the three of us play in a little round.

00:50:33 Robin, you don't play the Patriots, right?

00:50:35 I don't play the Patriots.

00:50:36 Yeah, but you play the Bears and then two weeks later, the Patriots play the Bears.

00:50:40 Yep.

00:50:41 And then in terms of hardest schedules, it is, I had it right here, hold on.

00:50:47 It is the Steelers, the Patriots, the Browns, the Vikings, and the Ravens.

00:50:54 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:55 The five hardest schedules.

00:50:57 So a lot of AFC North teams in that, in the hardest schedule because they're all very good.

00:51:02 The last nine weeks for the Steelers are absolutely brutal.

00:51:05 Yeah.

00:51:06 So the last nine weeks for the Steelers, the Commanders, the Ravens, the Browns,

00:51:10 the Bengals, the Browns, the Eagles, the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Bengals again.

00:51:17 Yeah.

00:51:17 I just tossed the Commanders in there.

00:51:19 The, uh.

00:51:20 It's really the last eight weeks.

00:51:22 Last eight weeks are the hardest stretch by far.

00:51:24 And this is the fun time where everyone goes through their schedule and they're like,

00:51:26 oh, this is a realistic thing.

00:51:28 And, and guess what?

00:51:29 All of it is going to be relevant by week two.

00:51:31 Yeah.

00:51:31 Because every, every team that you think is going to be bad is going to be good.

00:51:35 And every team that's going to be good is going to be bad.

00:51:36 And there's going to be six QB injuries, but I'm not,

00:51:40 I've done it, I think four different times already in my head going through the Bears

00:51:44 schedule.

00:51:44 So I'm not poo-pooing it.

00:51:46 Everyone should do this.

00:51:47 Just remember that what you're doing is just an exercise to get you closer to football.

00:51:51 Mm-hmm (affirmative).

00:51:51 That's true.

00:51:52 That's true.

00:51:52 This is how we pass the time in the off season.

00:51:54 Right.

00:51:54 And the NFL is also using the Chiefs as like their big experiment.

00:51:57 They have the Chiefs playing on every night of the week, except for Tuesday.

00:52:01 Now we'll watch.

00:52:02 And we'll watch it every single time.

00:52:03 That's what I'm saying.

00:52:03 They're, they, they step on our drugs, but they give us a little bit of the Chiefs.

00:52:07 A little bit of the Chiefs.

00:52:08 And you've got the Swifties that are going to be signing up for all these streaming services.

00:52:12 Yeah.

00:52:12 I'm pretty sure that most Swifties out there, they're, they're well acquainted with all

00:52:16 the streaming services.

00:52:17 Yeah.

00:52:17 And we, and also everyone's going to tune in to see Harrison Bucker.

00:52:20 Yeah.

00:52:21 Harrison Bucker.

00:52:22 He's quite something.

00:52:24 He's something.

00:52:24 He's something else, that guy.

00:52:25 I, I don't know why anyone has not just had the take of, he's their kicker, who cares?

00:52:31 Yeah.

00:52:31 So.

00:52:31 Like, why are we listening to a kicker?

00:52:33 It was, it was weird that he did that at a college commencement.

00:52:36 Yeah.

00:52:37 To be like, hey, your most important role is actually going to be just being a homemaker.

00:52:41 Yeah.

00:52:41 So you should do that.

00:52:42 Also, just as his whole vibe, I had never really gotten a good look at Harrison Bucker before.

00:52:47 He looks exactly like the guy from the meme that just says yes all the time.

00:52:52 Yeah.

00:52:52 You know, the blonde haired guy?

00:52:53 Yeah.

00:52:53 That's him.

00:52:54 I think he styled his own image.

00:52:56 He's crafted in the likeness of that guy because he appreciates what that guy stands for.

00:53:00 He also has got some weird, like, almost like he could be a Civil War general beard going.

00:53:07 Yeah.

00:53:07 You remember that?

00:53:08 Was it General Andrew Luck?

00:53:10 Yes.

00:53:11 General Harrison Bucker?

00:53:12 Yeah.

00:53:12 He's a kicker, but also like slightly misogynistic.

00:53:15 If you're, if you're badgering homes, you have to be a little pissed here, right?

00:53:18 Like your kicker shouldn't be making headlines.

00:53:20 Yep.

00:53:21 That's just a fact.

00:53:22 I agree.

00:53:22 You should not have your kicker being in controversies whatsoever.

00:53:25 Do you think the, uh, the 49ers kicker said something slightly less problematic, like

00:53:30 10 minutes before Harrison Bucker got on stage?

00:53:32 Yeah.

00:53:33 Yeah.

00:53:33 That would be great.

00:53:34 But yeah, that was a, I never thought Harrison Bucker debates would be how we spend an entire

00:53:39 week.

00:53:40 Also just his name has butt in it.

00:53:42 Yeah.

00:53:42 So that's fun.

00:53:43 He's probably, that's probably what he's overcompensating for.

00:53:45 Yeah.

00:53:46 Yeah.

00:53:47 Something there.

00:53:47 I mean, the beard, the, the speech, the name, the kicker position.

00:53:54 He's, it feels like he's like, Hey Harrison, it's okay, man.

00:53:58 Not sure.

00:53:58 You're we're sure you're strong.

00:53:59 Like you're, it's okay.

00:54:00 You can be confident in yourself.

00:54:02 Nothing says masculinity like, uh, like a kicker who met his wife in middle school band

00:54:07 practice.

00:54:07 Mm.

00:54:08 Harrison Bucker.

00:54:13 It was funny though.

00:54:13 He did start to cry when he talked about meeting his wife in band.

00:54:17 That's nice.

00:54:18 And then she converted for him, which was cool.

00:54:20 Honestly, he's like, they probably have a very happy marriage.

00:54:22 Yeah.

00:54:23 Happy for him.

00:54:23 Good for them.

00:54:24 But yeah, you can let other people live their life how they want to live their life.

00:54:27 And again, it was a kicker.

00:54:29 Yeah.

00:54:29 Kicker.

00:54:30 We're taking, he's a really good kicker.

00:54:31 It's Mike Vanderjagt all over again.

00:54:33 Yeah.

00:54:33 We're, we're, we're, it's, we don't need to take advice from kickers.

00:54:36 No offense to kickers, but all offense to kickers.

00:54:39 Do you think you're going to have, again, back to the Swifties, they're going to be

00:54:41 tuning in.

00:54:42 They're rooting for the chiefs.

00:54:43 They're probably going to hate this fucking guy.

00:54:45 He actually quoted Taylor Swift earlier in the commencement speech, which is, if he did

00:54:51 that, that's on purpose.

00:54:52 That's a very funny troll to do a Taylor Swift quote and then follow it up with all that.

00:54:56 They're going to be rooting for the chiefs, but also rooting for this guy to miss field

00:54:59 goals.

00:55:00 Yeah.

00:55:00 They might root for, they might actually, the Swifties might try to get the chiefs like

00:55:03 disbanded.

00:55:04 Yeah.

00:55:05 That's if you're a chiefs fan, if you're a Taylor Swift, a recently made chiefs fan who

00:55:11 was started as a Swifty, you have a lot of questions and honestly, a lot of looking in

00:55:16 the mirror because we do have a lot of Swifties that listen to the show.

00:55:18 We've all, we've been pretty fair and balanced.

00:55:20 I think about talking about her, uh, really if Travis does not demand a trade from the

00:55:26 chiefs, it tells you a lot about his personal values.

00:55:28 Yep.

00:55:29 That he's willing to tolerate a team, teammate like that because terrible things happen when

00:55:33 good people remain silent.

00:55:35 And so far I haven't heard anything from Travis Kelsey about this.

00:55:38 I'm going to say this right now.

00:55:39 Uh, I officially will never sign with the Kansas city chiefs as long as Harrison Bucker's

00:55:46 on the team.

00:55:46 Wow.

00:55:48 Yeah.

00:55:48 Powerful.

00:55:49 I don't care what they offer me, what contract I'm not doing it.

00:55:52 It's very powerful.

00:55:52 I refuse.

00:55:53 It's very powerful.

00:55:53 You got to stand up for, you got to stand up for something.

00:55:55 I'm standing up for the women.

00:55:56 Stand up for something.

00:55:57 I'm standing up for all the Swifties.

00:55:58 You'll fall for anything.

00:55:59 Yeah.

00:55:59 I actually, people say we're misogynistic.

00:56:02 I'm literally standing up.

00:56:03 You know what?

00:56:04 He's standing up.

00:56:06 Do you see this?

00:56:08 Do you see this?

00:56:09 Hank, describe what you're looking at right now.

00:56:11 I'm looking at a large man standing up, holding his arms out like Jesus Christ.

00:56:17 Who else will stand up?

00:56:18 I'll stand up with you big.

00:56:20 Let's go.

00:56:20 Pft.

00:56:21 I'll stand up with you big cat.

00:56:22 We're standing up for the Swifties right now.

00:56:23 I'm pretty tired.

00:56:24 Yeah, that's understandable.

00:56:26 Yeah.

00:56:26 Okay.

00:56:26 That's fine.

00:56:26 You don't have to stand up.

00:56:27 Do you see they put the Chiefs in Buffalo the same week that Taylor Swift is performing in Toronto?

00:56:32 I did not see that.

00:56:34 Two hour drive away.

00:56:35 People are saying that was done on purpose.

00:56:36 Oh, wow.

00:56:36 And I can't help but saying it's a coincidence.

00:56:38 That might be a bridge too far.

00:56:40 If they did that on purpose, if we're bending the schedule around Taylor Swift,

00:56:43 if that's actually something that's happening, that might be too far for me.

00:56:47 Yeah.

00:56:47 But they said it's a coincidence.

00:56:48 We get accused of glazing a certain person a lot, but I'll say that we forgot to mention

00:56:55 that his video was very funny as well.

00:56:56 Did you guys see it?

00:56:57 Yeah, Josh.

00:56:57 He went to the pit.

00:56:58 He went to the pit.

00:56:59 The pit.

00:56:59 Lived in the pit.

00:57:00 The pit is great.

00:57:00 He had very good comedic timing.

00:57:02 The pit knows all.

00:57:03 What is the pit?

00:57:04 Where they're building the new stadium.

00:57:06 Oh.

00:57:06 Yeah, he had a tent in there and it was funny.

00:57:10 It's the Bill's equivalent of the lighthouse, except it's much, much cooler.

00:57:13 And it's an actual pit.

00:57:14 It's basically woodstock.

00:57:16 That's where they sacrifice someone before every game.

00:57:18 That's where people just...

00:57:19 It's like a siren song that lures tailgaters from Bill's mafia to just go down to the pit

00:57:23 and check it out.

00:57:24 And then that one guy went down there and shit all over himself.

00:57:26 Yeah.

00:57:26 I like that.

00:57:27 Yeah.

00:57:27 Okay, let's get to our interviews.

00:57:29 We got Randy Moss and then we've got Pat Connerton in studio.

00:57:32 Also, apologies for the birds in the first five minutes of the Randy Moss interview.

00:57:38 He was...

00:57:38 I think he was just doing the interview with a bird, but he wanted us to see Mystic Dan.

00:57:43 And you'll get to see Mystic Dan, including some extra.

00:57:46 Little bonus.

00:57:47 Yeah, but before we do that...

00:57:48 Oh, one other thing with the schedule release.

00:57:50 Did you see the hardcore porn that was on X last night?

00:57:55 Yeah, oh yeah.

00:57:56 In all the replies.

00:57:56 Yeah, it's everywhere.

00:57:57 Like it got turned...

00:57:58 I think it got turned up.

00:57:59 No, I mean, you couldn't avoid it.

00:58:02 No, I know.

00:58:02 I saw butthole.

00:58:03 Yeah.

00:58:04 Butthole was everywhere on Twitter last night.

00:58:07 Teams were just trying to announce their schedule.

00:58:09 You click on it, you see the replies, get the real takes down there.

00:58:12 And then there's just a butthole in your face.

00:58:13 Yeah.

00:58:14 Credit to Roger Goodell.

00:58:16 Hank, I'm on it.

00:58:17 Okay.

00:58:17 It's been a while.

00:58:18 I mean, there was butthole.

00:58:20 A lot of butthole.

00:58:21 If you see butthole, you're going to notice butthole.

00:58:23 That's a fact.

00:58:23 Hank, you got that on the list?

00:58:25 Okay.

00:58:26 There was a lot of butthole.

00:58:28 There was butthole.

00:58:29 Are you expecting us not to see the butthole?

00:58:32 I saw it.

00:58:33 I just didn't...

00:58:33 That's just what Twitter is now.

00:58:35 I didn't think twice about it.

00:58:37 There's nudes in profile.

00:58:39 I get that.

00:58:40 There's pussy in bio.

00:58:41 No, I feel like in some of the...

00:58:42 When I go looking for Drake and Kendrick stuff,

00:58:45 the shit that's in there is insane.

00:58:48 People getting pounded.

00:58:49 Yeah.

00:58:49 Yeah, like it's...

00:58:50 Straight up pounded.

00:58:51 It's insane.

00:58:52 Ha ha ha.

00:58:53 Okay, let's get to our interviews.

00:58:54 We got Randy Moss, Pat Connerton in person before we get to Randy Moss.

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01:00:15 Okay, here he is, Randy Moss.

01:00:18 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests in the entire world.

01:00:21 It is Randy Moss.

01:00:23 It's the truth.

01:00:24 It's Randy Moss talking about preakness.

01:00:26 To prove that you are one of our favorite guests, this week I was in full-blown panic.

01:00:35 I texted Randy on Tuesday to ask him what time works for him, and it came back as green.

01:00:41 I was like, "Oh no, he changed his phone.

01:00:45 I don't know what has happened."

01:00:47 I didn't hear from you for, I don't know, like 24 hours, to the point that I was using

01:00:53 my contacts to talk to your producers at NBC to make sure that you were okay.

01:00:57 You just lost your phone.

01:00:59 That's all it was, right?

01:01:00 I left my phone on the rental car bus at BWI Airport.

01:01:05 Someone put it in their pocket, and I tracked them all the way to Pleasanton, California.

01:01:10 I've got their address.

01:01:11 I've got their name, but no luck, so I had to get a new phone.

01:01:16 That's why you couldn't reach me.

01:01:17 Okay.

01:01:17 Do you want us to roll up on them?

01:01:19 Yeah, we can roll up.

01:01:19 Please do.

01:01:21 Okay.

01:01:22 I'll send you their address when we get off the air here.

01:01:27 Okay, so you're joining us from, it looks like the paddock right there behind where

01:01:31 the horses are, in Baltimore at the preakness.

01:01:35 Yes.

01:01:36 We have a lot of questions.

01:01:37 Should we start with the Secretariat stuff?

01:01:39 Well, yeah, no, we were just going to ask who you're-

01:01:41 I don't think we've ever asked you before who your goat is.

01:01:44 Who's the goat in horse racing?

01:01:45 Is it Man O' War or is it Flightline?

01:01:48 It's impossible to say because comparing horses of different generations is so fraught with

01:01:56 peril.

01:01:57 All I can do is just say, all right, of the horses that I've seen in my lifetime, not

01:02:04 necessarily in person, but the Secretariat would be the goat.

01:02:08 Would definitely be the goat.

01:02:11 Flightline, Spectacular Bid, there was other horses that had a tremendous amount of ability,

01:02:16 American Pharaoh, but Secretariat did so many things during his two-year career that he

01:02:23 would be the goat.

01:02:24 Randy, is there a bird inside of your phone right now?

01:02:27 I, okay, right behind me is the hedge.

01:02:29 That's where all the birds are.

01:02:31 All right, we should walk away from there because it sounds like it's inside of your

01:02:34 phone.

01:02:35 Because you can't-

01:02:36 The yellow you see behind me right there is Mystic Dan Saddletail.

01:02:40 Mystic Dan, the derby winner, is right back in there.

01:02:42 This is the freakiest barn.

01:02:43 Okay, can we say-

01:02:45 Yeah, walk away from the hedges.

01:02:48 But we see, I know you did it for us because you wanted us to see Mystic Dan, but it sounds

01:02:54 like a bird climbed into your phone.

01:02:56 Okay.

01:02:58 Can we just say congratulations to Mystic Dan real quick?

01:03:01 Yeah.

01:03:02 Okay, there you go.

01:03:03 Wait, hang on.

01:03:03 Let's say congratulations to Mystic Dan.

01:03:05 All right.

01:03:07 He's a good boy.

01:03:08 Yeah, give him a boop.

01:03:09 Oh.

01:03:10 There you go.

01:03:11 There he is.

01:03:12 Hey, Mystic Dan.

01:03:13 Oh, that's a butt crack.

01:03:14 Whoa.

01:03:14 Is that Mystic Dan?

01:03:16 Mystic Dan's showing a lot of ass.

01:03:18 I didn't know they had plumbers that worked at the Preakness.

01:03:20 That was a great five seconds of PMT history right there.

01:03:26 There you go.

01:03:27 That was something you'd see in a reply to a scheduled release on Twitter right there.

01:03:34 Yeah, that was great.

01:03:35 So, all right, so to Secretariat.

01:03:37 All right.

01:03:39 He did steroids.

01:03:40 Okay, that's a firestorm of controversy here right now through Jason Kelsey,

01:03:46 and then I weighed in as well.

01:03:47 There's no way to know for a fact, right?

01:03:52 Although, look, steroids were rampant in thoroughbred racing in the 1970s, I'm told.

01:04:01 In the 1980s, I know.

01:04:03 In the '90s, I know.

01:04:05 In the 2000s, I know.

01:04:07 All the way up until, let's say, Big Brown in 2008.

01:04:11 If you remember, huge controversy when Rick Dutrow, the trainer of Big Brown,

01:04:16 after winning the Kentucky Derby in the Preakness, was just asked point blank by a reporter,

01:04:21 "Is Big Brown—"

01:04:23 This was right in the middle of the baseball controversies, right, with Sammy Sosa and

01:04:27 Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds.

01:04:29 "Does Big Brown—is he on steroids?"

01:04:32 And Rick Dutrow, being very honest, said, "Yes."

01:04:35 "He's on anabolic steroids."

01:04:37 Pretty much all the horses are on anabolic steroids, right?

01:04:40 Back then, trainers believed that the therapeutic benefits of anabolic steroids outweighed any of

01:04:50 the negatives.

01:04:50 They didn't really view anabolic steroids as that much of a performance enhancer.

01:04:57 They viewed it as helping horses recover after races, recover after injuries, increasing

01:05:04 their appetite, helping put on muscle mass, and all that.

01:05:08 So, look, Secretariat was running at a time where, I'm told, anabolic steroid use was

01:05:16 rampant in thoroughbred racing.

01:05:18 When Secretariat was retired, he had some immature sperm that was a concern to breeders.

01:05:26 That happens to be a side effect of anabolic steroid use.

01:05:30 Does that mean he was definitely on steroids?

01:05:32 No.

01:05:34 When he died, they autopsied him.

01:05:36 He had an enlarged heart, which, again, is a side effect, one of the side effects of

01:05:42 anabolic steroids.

01:05:43 So, there is, I think, a pretty strong possibility that Secretariat was racing on anabolic steroids.

01:05:51 But here's the deal.

01:05:52 So were the other horses he was running against.

01:05:54 Right.

01:05:55 If Secretariat was on anabolic steroids, you know Sham was.

01:05:58 It wasn't just Lucian Lauren, the trainer of Secretariat that had access to this stuff.

01:06:04 He, you know, he won the Triple Crown.

01:06:06 He set track records in all three races that still stand, okay.

01:06:11 And they held up through the '70s, through the '80s, through the '90s, through the

01:06:16 2000s when anabolic steroid use was rampant.

01:06:19 So it doesn't really, you know, might he have run a little faster with anabolic steroids?

01:06:26 Yes.

01:06:27 Does it taint his legacy in any way?

01:06:32 To me, no.

01:06:33 Because he was an incredibly dominant racehorse against all competition.

01:06:38 One of the most incredibly dominant racehorses in the history of the game at a time when

01:06:43 pretty much all the horses were running on that stuff.

01:06:46 Yeah.

01:06:46 It's like Barry Bonds.

01:06:47 Yeah.

01:06:48 The records will still stand.

01:06:49 He was going up against some shady competition at the time, but he was far and away the best

01:06:54 baseball player that I've ever seen.

01:06:56 And so nothing should change that.

01:06:57 I did make my four-year-old son, Chris, change his wallpaper on his iPhone.

01:07:01 He had to take down Secretariat.

01:07:03 I think I'm going to allow him to put it back up.

01:07:05 We can forgive Secretariat if that's what he did, because everybody else was doing it

01:07:09 at the same time.

01:07:10 And in my eyes, it does not taint that accomplishment.

01:07:13 So thank you for explaining that to us.

01:07:15 That was a very fair response.

01:07:16 I think it's a very, very fair response.

01:07:18 Yeah.

01:07:18 Because I was ready to go to war.

01:07:20 It's almost sacrilegious, right?

01:07:23 People think to say anything that could be construed as negative about Secretariat.

01:07:27 But it's just, you know, you have to be honest about this stuff.

01:07:30 Yeah.

01:07:31 The birds are back.

01:07:32 Do you want to walk closer to the parking lot?

01:07:34 The birds are back.

01:07:37 Go to the parking lot.

01:07:38 All right.

01:07:38 So, all right.

01:07:39 Let's talk about this race.

01:07:41 Let's talk about Mystic Dan.

01:07:42 That was an incredible Kentucky Derby.

01:07:45 Very, very thrilling.

01:07:46 I'm an idiot.

01:07:48 My name is Dan, and I should have bet Mystic Dan.

01:07:52 You told us that if there was one horse that would surprise everyone, it was Mystic Dan.

01:07:58 I do believe that if I bet Mystic Dan, he would have probably finished last.

01:08:02 But how are we feeling about Mystic Dan now going to the Preakness?

01:08:06 Everyone wants to see a Triple Crown winner.

01:08:09 Muth, the favorite Bob Baffert's horse, is out fever.

01:08:13 So, what's the story with Mystic Dan?

01:08:16 Is this horse legit, have a chance at winning the Triple Crown?

01:08:20 And is it quickly like, hey, he won it as an 18 to 1, but this is a real good horse.

01:08:27 Okay, look, he got what we call in horse racing a perfect trip in the Kentucky Derby.

01:08:32 He was sitting on the rail all the way around.

01:08:35 He got through on the inside at the top of the stretch.

01:08:38 He ran a shorter distance than the competition.

01:08:41 But he also had the acceleration, had the guts to go through a tight hole when the time came.

01:08:51 All right.

01:08:51 A lot of horses get perfect trips and they sit along the rail, and then a hole opens up,

01:08:55 and they're not fast enough to get through the hole.

01:08:57 Mystic Dan had that quick acceleration to shoot through that opening at the top of the stretch

01:09:04 that Brian Hernandez steered him through and open up a lead and just barely hang on.

01:09:10 Was he a better horse than Sierra Leone or Forever Young?

01:09:14 Probably not.

01:09:15 Almost certainly not, because they covered a lot more ground.

01:09:20 And there was also a lot of bumping through the stretch that we can talk about if you want,

01:09:23 because the Churchill-Allen stewards totally dropped the ball on that.

01:09:26 So, okay, for those reasons, and plus now he's got to come back in two weeks,

01:09:34 which trainer Ken McPeak was not too good, not too enthusiastic about doing.

01:09:40 I think he's a bet against.

01:09:42 Okay.

01:09:43 He's going to be a shorter price than he should be because he won the Kentucky Derby.

01:09:47 He got a perfect trip, which he's probably not going to get Saturday.

01:09:50 He's coming back in two weeks.

01:09:51 For all those reasons, would I be shocked to see him win?

01:09:54 No, but from a betting standpoint, I think he's a bet against.

01:09:57 He ran the perfect race.

01:09:58 It's unlikely that he'll have a perfect race that unfolds in front of him again.

01:10:01 That makes total sense to me.

01:10:03 So what about the bumping down the stretch that you talked about?

01:10:05 What happened there?

01:10:06 Okay.

01:10:07 We all knew, and we talked about this on the telecast several times.

01:10:13 Sierra Leone, the horse that finished second in the Derby, has a longstanding habit

01:10:17 of veering to his left as he comes down the stretch, right?

01:10:22 As you're watching the race, it would be to your right, to his left as he's coming down the wire.

01:10:28 He's done that in almost all his races.

01:10:30 Tyler Gaff Leon knows it.

01:10:31 Chad Brown, the trainer, knew it.

01:10:34 And at the top of the stretch, he pulled up next to the Japanese horse, Forever Young,

01:10:38 and he pretty much mugged Forever Young the entire length of the stretch.

01:10:44 And then as they hit the wire in a three-horse photo finish,

01:10:47 the jockey of Sierra Leone, Tyler Gaff Leon, appeared to temporarily lose his balance with

01:10:52 all the bumping and reached out and put his hand on the Japanese horse as the horses got to the wire.

01:10:58 What happened in the run through the stretch with Sierra Leone, you know,

01:11:06 repeatedly bumping and mugging Forever Young, look, that's an elementary school disqualification.

01:11:15 When you reach out and you put your hand on another horse,

01:11:18 that's an elementary school disqualification.

01:11:21 When all this happens, do you put up the inquiry sign?

01:11:24 That's an elementary school decision.

01:11:27 The stewards didn't at Churchill Downs.

01:11:29 They blew it badly on all three counts.

01:11:32 And all I can say is that Churchill Downs and its 150th celebration

01:11:37 is incredibly lucky that Sierra Leone didn't win that race by a nose

01:11:44 because it would have been one of the biggest controversies in the history of the Kentucky Derby

01:11:49 that the stewards left the number up and didn't disqualify.

01:11:52 So what's the process for that? Is there any accountability?

01:11:56 Have people asked them about it? Like, why didn't you at least take another look at it?

01:11:59 You know, there could be accountability with the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission

01:12:04 if there was a challenge by the connections of the Japanese horse, okay?

01:12:10 Which is unlikely to happen.

01:12:12 I think it's a cultural thing. They feel like they're guests in this country.

01:12:15 After the running of the race, the jockey of Forever Young, Sakai, who speaks no English,

01:12:21 had a conversation with the other Japanese jockey in the race on TO Password who finished fifth,

01:12:28 who does speak some English, as they were walking back to the jocks room about claiming foul.

01:12:34 And at that point, I mean, it's, you know,

01:12:38 the Japanese rider was told it's pretty much too late.

01:12:41 So it was a language barrier as much as anything as to why there wasn't a foul claim.

01:12:46 But there didn't need to be a foul claim.

01:12:48 The stewards can put the inquiry sign up, can see what's going on.

01:12:52 And it was such a no-brainer decision. And they just blew it. Completely blew it.

01:12:58 Yeah. Okay. Well, hopefully we don't have something similar.

01:12:59 And look, there was 70, there was 75, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

01:13:02 No, no.

01:13:02 There was $75 million wagered on exactus, trifectas, and superfectas

01:13:10 in the Kentucky Derby in which the second and third place order of finish was paramount.

01:13:14 Yeah.

01:13:15 It was a $500,000 difference, I believe, in purse money between the second and the

01:13:19 third place finishers. So it was an expensive gaffe.

01:13:23 Maybe everyone just boxed it. And that's why there weren't people upset.

01:13:27 Yeah.

01:13:27 And that could be the reason.

01:13:30 It seems like the Japanese trainers are being too polite. There's a lot of gamblers in America that

01:13:33 aren't known for being super polite about that sort of thing. Maybe class action lawsuit against

01:13:38 the Kentucky Derby.

01:13:39 Well, I mean, look, they're extremely lucky. I don't know if it's just 150th anniversary

01:13:47 karma or whatever. This is a mini controversy because it doesn't involve the winner, Mystic

01:13:53 Dan. You haven't read much about this in the media or anything like that. But trust me,

01:13:58 if it was Sierra Leone that had crossed the wire two or three inches further ahead and won the race

01:14:03 in a photo, it would be absolute chaos right now with the controversy.

01:14:08 So we talked about the photo finish and how electric the photo finishes. And we're like,

01:14:12 what did they do before there was a photo finish? Big Cat brought up a good point,

01:14:15 which is that he thinks that probably the photo finish was invented for horse race.

01:14:19 The photograph started just for horse racing for gamblers. So before there was a photo finish,

01:14:27 was there just one guy up in a stand with binoculars and whatever he said that would

01:14:31 be the winner?

01:14:33 Three guys. Placing judges is what they're known as, and they still exist in thoroughbred racing

01:14:40 for other purposes generally. But if in the event that the photo finish camera malfunctions in some

01:14:49 way, then it's the placing judges that will determine between the three of them what the

01:14:55 correct order of finish was.

01:14:57 That's cool. Fast eyes.

01:14:59 Okay. So let's talk about the preakness. So you said bet against Mystic Dan, who's the bet on?

01:15:06 And I had a question about one of the horses, Uncle Heavy, because Irad Ortiz got on him and

01:15:13 it's like, I'm kind of doing the Brian Wynn horse. Like why is Irad getting on a 20 to one horse?

01:15:18 Is there something to be said there? So break it down for us.

01:15:21 All right. So we've established that at least I think that Mystic Dan is going to be overbet.

01:15:27 And so therefore, and for all the other reasons that he's a bet against, okay.

01:15:31 It's very evenly matched between Mystic Dan, Imagination, who's the other Bob Baffert

01:15:39 remaining horse. Moose got sick. He would have been the favorite in the race, and

01:15:43 so he's not going to run. But Baffert still has Imagination, who'll probably set the pace.

01:15:48 Catching Freedom ran fourth in the Kentucky Derby, but he also had a rail trip.

01:15:53 He also had a very good inside trip. To me, the bet in the Preakness is a horse called Tuscan Gold,

01:16:01 trained by Chad Brown. Okay. Right now, I believe he's eight to one in the program line. I think

01:16:04 that's a little too generous. I don't think he's going to be eight to one, but he ran a really

01:16:09 good third in the Louisiana Derby. And there's kind of a pattern here with trainer Chad Brown.

01:16:15 He had Sierra Leone. He had Domestic Product in the Kentucky Derby.

01:16:20 Chad has hit upon a little system now over the last decade or so, where he takes horses that

01:16:28 skip the Kentucky Derby, and he points instead for the Preakness. Cloud computing followed that

01:16:34 formula, won the Preakness. Early voting followed that formula, won the Preakness. Last year,

01:16:39 Blazing Sevens, who looked like there was no way he was good enough to win the Preakness,

01:16:44 finished a really good, really strong second, barely beaten by National Treasure.

01:16:49 So now Chad has this horse, Tuscan Gold, who was third in the Louisiana Derby. And immediately

01:16:55 after that race, he said, "This is my Preakness horse. This is the horse I'm pointing for for

01:17:00 this year's Preakness." And on numbers, he's just as good as Mystic Dan, in my opinion. He's just

01:17:07 as good as Catching Freedom and Imagination, and he should be a higher price. So I think that,

01:17:12 to me, that's the bet. Yeah. And what about Uncle Heavy, though? I read on that.

01:17:17 Uncle Heavy, he deserves to be about 20 to 1. I read Ortiz is on him because it's really the only

01:17:24 option he had to ride in the Preakness. And if you have a chance to... It's a horse race. I know

01:17:29 anything can happen. I read, arguably, he's definitely one of the best two or three jockeys

01:17:34 in America. So why not take a shot? He probably doesn't think he's got much of a chance to win,

01:17:39 but at least he's in there. Okay. And I feel like we ask you this every time,

01:17:42 but what's a long shot that we could have finishing second or third, if we want to get

01:17:47 spicy with it, with a trifecta or something? Just Steel, I think, would probably be the

01:17:53 spiciest long shot in there. And look, he ran terribly in a Kentucky Derby, but

01:17:59 leaving the starting gate, he got bounced around a lot at the start. His young jockey, Keith Asmussen,

01:18:05 stepped on the gas coming down the stretch the first time, and the horse rushed up and was

01:18:12 involved in a fairly swift early pace, and then completely backed out. Wayne Lucas, the trainer,

01:18:19 didn't like the ride. Changing jockeys to Joel Rosario. He'll get a little bit more of a patient

01:18:25 ride. And if he runs the same way he did in his race before that, which was second to Muth in the

01:18:30 Arkansas Derby, then he would have a chance to hit the board at a pretty good price. Okay. And now,

01:18:36 the Black Eyed Susan on Friday, which everyone should watch. Randy will be on the call.

01:18:41 You nailed the Oaks. We should have started with that. You gave us some bullets for the Derby.

01:18:46 You absolutely nailed the Oaks. You also did tell us Mystic Dan. So you won all the AWL's money,

01:18:53 no pressure. But Black Eyed Susan, and maybe any other races that you like that you've been

01:18:58 circling. All right. Black Eyed Susan, I like a filly named Gun Song. She's not one of the

01:19:07 top two favorites or so. There is a little bit of a question about the mile and an eighth distance

01:19:12 with her. And a little bit of a question the trainer Mark Hennig has about the mile and an

01:19:16 eighth for her. But if she runs one of her best races, she's the best horse in the field. Okay.

01:19:24 And I think she could be four to one, nine to two. So that's not a bad return on a filly like Gun

01:19:31 Song. And then on, that's Friday, obviously, in the Black Eyed Susan. And then on, hang on a second,

01:19:36 I dropped my paper. Then on Saturday, there we go. In the 11th race, it's a race called the Jim

01:19:43 McKay Turf Sprint, five eighths of a mile on the grass. There is a horse, the number eight horse

01:19:49 in the race, and he's called Boats A-Rockin'. Okay. And he, right now he's six to one on the

01:19:56 program line. I don't expect to get six to one again, maybe nine to two, four to one.

01:20:01 But to me on paper, he looks like the best horse in the race. And if it rains like it's supposed to

01:20:08 rain during the day, Saturday morning and some of the afternoon, he's proven that he can handle

01:20:15 the turf horse that has a little bit of moisture on it. So there you go. Wait, if it rains,

01:20:19 that's in favor of Mystic Dan, right? Because this is his best.

01:20:25 If it's a muddy track, you're right, Big Cat. It would be a little bit of an advantage

01:20:31 to Mystic Dan just because he has proven that he can handle it. But I still would be betting

01:20:38 against him. Yeah. And it would be, if Mystic Dan somehow does pull this off, then we get a couple

01:20:44 weeks of everyone saying this is an asterisk because the Belmont's going to be a shorter

01:20:48 distance, which I don't know if that's good or bad for horse racing. I don't know. I think any

01:20:53 Triple Crown, obviously, any Triple Crown bid is good for horse racing, but it will be interesting

01:20:58 if it happens. Yeah. And it's a legitimate asterisk and they didn't have to do it.

01:21:04 They're running, obviously, they're running the Belmont stakes this year at Saratoga. Okay.

01:21:08 The Belmont Park Oval is the largest in America, largest dirt oval in America. It's a mile and a

01:21:16 half, a mile and a half around. So it's very easy to run the Belmont stakes at the mile and a half

01:21:21 distance. At Saratoga, the oval's only a mile and an eighth around. So if they ran the Belmont

01:21:28 at a mile and a half at Saratoga, they would have to start at midway around the stretch turn.

01:21:35 They would have to start the race on a turn, which is not ideal. And that's the reason why

01:21:40 instead they're starting the race at the top of the stretch and they're making it a mile and a

01:21:44 quarter. But when Belmont Park was last under reconstruction in the 1960s, the Belmont stakes

01:21:52 was run at Aqueduct, which likes Saratoga, it's the same circumference, mile and an eighth. They

01:21:58 started the Belmont stakes on the turn in those years to keep it at the mile and a half distance

01:22:04 and there were no problems. So look, I think Belmont Park, New York Racing Association,

01:22:12 has been using the excuse of tradition as a reason not to change the spacing of the

01:22:19 triple crown races, which is causing problems for the continuity of the series. And now here they

01:22:25 are completely turning tradition upside down and running the Belmont stakes at a mile and a quarter

01:22:30 instead of a mile and a half when they don't have to. It's interesting and I think it's wrong.

01:22:34 At a different track, it's not the same. It's a different race. They're just putting the branding

01:22:39 for the Belmont on it. Right. I mean, it's still the Belmont stakes, but it is at a different track

01:22:43 by necessity. The distance to me is the big problem there and I think it deserves to have an asterisk.

01:22:50 Yeah. All right. Randy, this is why we like you. You tell it like it is. No sugarcoat it.

01:22:54 You give us the honest truth. America's horse analyst.

01:22:56 Yeah. Okay. Last question for you, Randy. It's a rowback question. RHOBACK.com,

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01:23:06 Well, I just want to say, I think that we need to have you on in football season this year because

01:23:11 you obviously cover the NFL as well. It's a mistake by us. It's too long to go a whole year without

01:23:17 Randy Moss. So we will make sure that we do that this year. My last question though is, can we see

01:23:22 Mystic Dan's ass again? Let's try. Let's see what we got here. Now, you might get some birds chirping.

01:23:28 That's okay. Bring the bird back. I would like to see this guy's ass again.

01:23:31 I could probably do better than showing you Mystic Dan's ass, although he's in the back of

01:23:35 the stall right now. Let me see here. Let me get under here. All right. I'm going to turn this iPad

01:23:39 around so you can get a nice shot of him. You're walking around with an iPad?

01:23:43 Yeah, yeah. I am. We lost his phone.

01:23:45 There's the saddle tail, right? See that? Good. Mystic Dan.

01:23:49 Oh, there he is. Yeah. There he sees his ass right there.

01:23:52 Oh yeah, there's his ass. Only one ass this time. Yeah.

01:23:55 We had Mystic Dan's ass on. There we go. All right. Well, go get him, Mystic Dan.

01:23:59 Congratulations, Mystic Dan. I hope it rains for you. I feel like somebody planted that bird right

01:24:04 outside his area there, so he's not going to get a good night's sleep. It's like pulling a fire

01:24:09 alarm the night before a playoff game. Yeah. Yeah. Chad Brown brought those birds in and put

01:24:14 them right outside of Mystic Dan's stall. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Randy, thanks so much.

01:24:18 Everyone tune in. See Randy on the telecast. Yeah. We love having you on, and we'll do it in the

01:24:23 football season. Don't lose your phone anymore. All right.

01:24:25 I got actually worried. All right.

01:24:26 I was actually worried, so don't lose your phone. Well, thanks for your perseverance.

01:24:32 Always love talking to you guys, so have a good weekend.

01:24:34 All right. See you, Randy.

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01:26:18 And now, here's Pat Conatin. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest,

01:26:24 recurring guest, it is NBA champion Pat Conatin. Does that ever get old, by the way, saying NBA,

01:26:30 because you have to be introduced as NBA champion. I know we had you on last time, was right after

01:26:35 you won, so it's been a couple of years. Does it get old? No, I mean, a couple of years come and

01:26:40 gets old, but the NBA champion title never gets old. Yeah, you guys haven't been out of the first

01:26:44 round since. Yeah, well, we get to the second round after. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And then

01:26:48 the last two years, we haven't gotten out of the first, but we're planning on fixing that sooner

01:26:52 rather than later. Yeah, speaking of the championship, I think this is probably a good

01:26:55 place to start because I just saw a very funny interview with Jeff Teague, and he was talking

01:27:00 about the aftermath of winning the championship and how he was like, let's fucking go, let's party,

01:27:05 let's go to Vegas, gas up the jet. And then Giannis was like, I think I'm just going to go

01:27:09 home to my family. And then everybody else was like, I guess we're just going to go home too.

01:27:14 Yeah. And that was kind of the end of the party. And he's the one who's going to pay for it?

01:27:17 Well, because you can't go to Vegas as the Bucks winning a ring and everyone's just going to be

01:27:21 like, where's Giannis? Yeah. Oh, everyone wants to know where Giannis is a lot of the time. But

01:27:26 I mean, Jeff, I think he lived it up. We did get to go to Greece. So we did go to Greece with

01:27:31 Giannis at the end of the summer. The thing that was interesting about that year was the championship

01:27:35 was like July 21st. Right. So it wasn't your typical, like the next season was starting on

01:27:40 time. So I think part of the reason it wasn't as climactic as Jeff wanted it to be was we only had

01:27:46 like six weeks before we were back in the swing of things. So guys wanted to spend some time with

01:27:50 their family. And then we went over to Greece and celebrated a little bit over there as a team.

01:27:54 So you win the championship and then you party for what, like 24 hours,

01:27:57 12 hours? And then you're like, okay, that's got to get my shots.

01:28:00 Yeah. Well, the parade wasn't for like 36 hours. So I would say we at least got a solid

01:28:05 36 hours. That's good. Yeah. And we should have, we should have mentioned you, uh,

01:28:09 you have the new dad glow. You, you congratulations, 10 days old as the time of this taping.

01:28:14 Um, are you scared? Are you ready? Yeah. No, I have the moment already where the kid comes

01:28:20 home and you're like, wait, no one gave me a manual for that. I did scary moment. Yeah.

01:28:24 That's the scariest part. The drive home. Yeah. I'd say the drive home is a scary part, but,

01:28:28 uh, I'm excited. And I think, you know, it's one of those things. Uh, the shock to me over the last

01:28:34 10 days has been when you wake up in the morning and you're like, Oh, he's, he's still here. Like,

01:28:39 you know, like I have a bunch of little cousins and stuff. So I've been around babies my whole life,

01:28:43 uh, have a lot of fun with it, but I always give them back. And now he's not going anywhere,

01:28:49 which has been, uh, you know, that's a real experience and that realization. And, uh, he's

01:28:54 been a blessing and it's been something that, um, you know, Ryan and myself, we've, we've enjoyed,

01:28:58 and she's done a great job. So, uh, it's gotta be, it's a little different than me having kids

01:29:03 where I'm like, I hope these kids are, I hope they're smart, uh, because they're not going to

01:29:07 be good athletes. You, your fiance is a professional athlete as well. So are you like, this is,

01:29:12 he's going to be so sick at every sport. Yeah. Well, I mean, when he was literally born, I put,

01:29:17 you know, a toy basketball, a toy baseball, a toy soccer ball, football in his little bassinet

01:29:22 thing. Um, and she looks at him and she goes, well, no pressure on the kid. And I said, no,

01:29:26 no, no. I just, I'm telling him he can choose whatever sport he wants. Golf, you know,

01:29:30 we can throw a golf club in there. Yeah. Um, to be as long as it's a professional athlete,

01:29:34 he probably will be. Yeah. Yeah. No pressure though. Yeah, exactly. No, I think, you know, uh,

01:29:38 it it's been, uh, someone had a great comment for it yesterday. It'll come to me, but it was

01:29:43 basically like, you know, we, we collected our genes and we just said, here, let's create this

01:29:48 baby that has a chance to continue the things that we've done in our lives. You need, you need

01:29:53 to get Notre Dame to offer a scholarship right now. Always the, the, the school being like,

01:29:57 we're going to, we're ready to offer this 10 day old. Yeah. I will say he's already gotten a

01:30:01 Wisconsin scholarship. He has. Yeah. You know, one of the, we were bad at in-state recruiting

01:30:06 right now. So yeah, I know one of the Wisconsin, uh, you know, mentors of mine, uh, has already

01:30:11 said he has a full ride. He will be our starting quarterback in 2020, 2044. Okay. Perfect. Yeah.

01:30:16 All right. That's, I mean, let's keep them away from Marquette in terms of basketball. Yes. I

01:30:21 mean, look, I'll get them an IL deal. You want to sign them up right now? Yeah. I mean, has there,

01:30:26 does he drink coffee? Not yet. He drinks a lot of milk. Yeah. All right. We'll get it.

01:30:32 Got milk still around. Yeah. Yeah. They used to have that. We'll do that. I would imagine that,

01:30:37 that having a newborn, you're doing a lot of Googling. Like, is this normal? What do I do

01:30:41 when this happens? Like Google is helping you raise your child. Yeah. He's gotten the hiccups a

01:30:45 lot. Yeah. Google tells you like the hiccups are a good thing. And I don't, I refuse to believe

01:30:50 they're a good thing because he doesn't look comfortable every time he gets the hiccups right

01:30:53 after he eats. Yeah. Uh, here's, here's a tip that I learned about when my son was like around the

01:30:58 same age, 10 days, whatever, two weeks, don't drain the baby. In what way? Uh, he started,

01:31:04 I was feeding him once when he was like two weeks old and he started puking and I held him upside

01:31:08 down. And what are you doing? I was like, I don't know. I didn't want him to like choke on it.

01:31:13 Right. And she's like, that's not what you do. Over the sink and just shake him a little.

01:31:17 There's like a video. There's like a nanny camera of me like literally holding him upside down,

01:31:21 being like, Oh shit. Yeah. Trying to drain the baby. I have, he has started to, you know,

01:31:25 get the hiccups and spit up after, right after he feeds. And I've done like the football hold

01:31:31 with his head facing the ground. Like just get it out of you real quick. And I've gotten yelled

01:31:36 at for it too. Like, no, you hold it straight up and you have them burp into the burp cloth.

01:31:40 Right. I'm like, well yeah, that makes sense. Now you say it out loud. But at the time I wasn't

01:31:45 thinking our instincts are to treat it like, like, uh, your buddy in college who's had too

01:31:49 many tequila, throw him over a chair, throw him down. Hold your hair, bro. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

01:31:55 But we do have them. We do have them in some, some legends onesies. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah.

01:32:02 Yeah. Legends onesies. Yeah. I'm gonna need some more. He spit up on a few of them,

01:32:07 but he's already been in a, he's been in a few. He likes to get, he seems to sleep better in those

01:32:11 onesies. Uh, so the Scotty Shuffler question, if you were playing in the NBA finals and

01:32:15 maybe was due, would you miss a game? Yeah. What was your plan? Hypothetically? I will say

01:32:19 it's a lot losing the first round though. Yeah. Thanks. I appreciate that. Are you a bucks fan?

01:32:23 No, I hate the box. I have a very mean joke that I'm not going to say. I just want to say for the

01:32:27 record that I'm not saying to me, I was going to pretend I was playing in the, I was going to say,

01:32:30 when you knew that you were going to have a baby around the NBA playoffs and you hired doc rivers,

01:32:34 we were like, yes. Yeah. But I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. Yeah. I love doc.

01:32:42 So I'm a, I'm a doc guy, but I was also, uh, any coach guy, anyone that's coaching me, I've been

01:32:47 pretty, pretty good with. Yeah. But would you have left the game in the NBA finals for, well,

01:32:52 it would have been easier for me because there's seven of them. There's seven games,

01:32:56 like Scotty Sheffler. There's only one Sunday at the masters. You know what I mean? So, um,

01:33:01 yeah, I probably, I've been told I can't miss the birth of my first child. Yeah. That's by the way,

01:33:06 that's a very smart answer. It's like, you don't, it's a hypothetical, so it's not happening. So yes,

01:33:10 I definitely would allow it. Well, it's not happening at least with this child. Yeah.

01:33:14 Hopefully it'll happen in the future. Then it would mean we were out of the first round. Yeah,

01:33:16 that's true. You can, you can, I kind of wish I missed the birth of my first child because

01:33:21 I was sitting in the hospital all day and I just started betting WNBA games and I went like over

01:33:25 four. So he actually cost me money the day he was born. Still costing you money. Yeah, right.

01:33:30 Exactly. But he cost you money before he was actually on earth. Yeah. He cost me money.

01:33:35 Uh, all right. So obviously the season didn't go as planned. Uh, how, how was this year for you?

01:33:40 Because this was, I feel like the first year where you were heavy in the trade rumors. Was it weird

01:33:45 having to deal with that being like, I don't know what's going to happen. Like the deadline comes

01:33:49 and people are like, my name's getting floated around. Like how much, how much does that affect

01:33:54 playing on the court? Uh, you know, it didn't really affect it for me. You know, I think for me,

01:33:59 I kind of understand how the business works. I understand, um, you know, from a GM's point of

01:34:04 view, we only have so many guys that are tradable, right? Like only whether it's contract based or

01:34:09 tradable guys in general. Um, and I think, you know, as a GM is trying to make the team better

01:34:15 for a playoff push, he's only got so many pieces to the puzzle that he can move. And so being a

01:34:19 part of those are kind of inevitable. Um, and I kind of knew that when I signed this extension,

01:34:24 like once you get to a certain contract range, um, I think you become a potential tradable asset,

01:34:30 um, depending how you're playing, depending how the team's doing, et cetera. Uh, and I know ending

01:34:34 in the first or losing in the first round last year to the heat, um, was going to spark some,

01:34:39 some trade rumors, regardless of, you know, what kind of happened and transpired this year.

01:34:43 Uh, but being like a positive guy and optimist, I try to look at it the other way. It means some

01:34:48 other teams want me, other teams want me to play for them. And the, uh, the joke, the running joke

01:34:53 that I make now is, you know, you talk about coach pop, he's got a tree of coaches, you know,

01:34:58 coach Bud's got a tree of coaches. Now, um, you know, Pat's got a network of coaches now that all

01:35:03 the guys that are getting head jobs, Charles Lee, congratulations to him. He was an assistant with us,

01:35:08 uh, Bud's back on the table. Taylor Jenkins was an assistant with us. We got a bunch of

01:35:12 assistant coaches that have moved on to be head assistants in different places. Um, so I'm hoping

01:35:17 to have a job in the NBA. Yeah. That's actually a really good spin zone where it's like all these

01:35:20 guys who saw you win a title, like in, you know, five years, it can be like, but remember Pat,

01:35:26 he's a good piece. Yeah. We can definitely work with him. Yeah. He's a great locker room guy.

01:35:30 Yeah. Great at, you know, making sure the culture of our team continues to rise with some of these

01:35:34 young guys we're trying to build around, you know, I can, I can spin it with the best of them. Yeah.

01:35:38 No, I think that's actually a realist, realistic way to look at the NBA. A lot of people, they,

01:35:42 obviously you want to be secure in your job. You want to like lay down roots and you want to just

01:35:47 be one place for as long as possible. But the reality is in sports, chances are, you're probably

01:35:51 going to have to move teams at some point. So the earlier you start to understand that and accept it

01:35:56 and embrace the possibility, I think that's healthier for you mentally. If it does happen,

01:35:59 it might not happen. You might be in Milwaukee for a while. Yeah. But you got to plan for it.

01:36:03 And like, you got to know it's possible. Just like you said, if you accept the possibility of it,

01:36:07 um, you're going to live a healthier lifestyle, my opinion in the NBA, you're not gonna be worried

01:36:12 about it. You're not gonna be stressed about it. You're gonna understand, look, it's basketball,

01:36:15 whether I got a buck's uniform on, whether I got another team's uniform on, I'm still playing the

01:36:19 same game. Now I would like to play for the bucks for as long as I can. It's fun playing alongside

01:36:23 Giannis. It's fun playing alongside Dame, Chris, Bobby, you know, the whole group, Pat Bev,

01:36:28 Brooke Lopez. Uh, I subscribed to the pod. Yeah. I think everybody on the team, I think when he

01:36:32 first got there, he just took everyone's phone and everybody just to make sure we had a hundred

01:36:36 percent subscriber ratio. And he did say when he showed up to the box, it got a little confusing

01:36:42 when, when doc would be like Pat and he would have to say like, are you talking about black

01:36:46 Pat or white Pat? Yeah, he did say that. And so doc started calling me Eminem.

01:36:49 Yeah, no, it was, uh, Pat, you know, he was great to me while I was there. You know what I mean?

01:36:56 He's one of those guys. Uh, I think when he's on your team, uh, you enjoy having them and, and,

01:37:00 and you put up with some of the antics that I think help gets him going. And he thinks,

01:37:05 um, you know, more oftentimes than not helps gets the team going. Unfortunately,

01:37:09 you know, it didn't work out this year, but, um, you know, I have nothing bad to say about

01:37:12 Pat Beverly. Were you one of the guys who was like, Hey Pat, stop throwing this ball into the

01:37:16 stands? No. Um, I actually, if you look at me in the video, like I'm looking to see what's happening

01:37:22 and right as I turn my head, I think towards him, the ball goes over my head. So I missed the whole

01:37:26 thing. Like it's literally like just perfect timing as I look up and I start to look this way,

01:37:30 the ball goes that way. And I'm like, and I never saw it. Oh, was there ever even a ball? We don't

01:37:34 know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, we, we love Pat Bev. He shouldn't have done that. But again,

01:37:40 the guy was wearing a Jersey with a no t-shirt underneath, which if you do that, you, you're

01:37:45 expecting to get in the game. Yeah. Like you want to get in you, you're hoping you show up to the

01:37:49 stadium that night being like, if, if a couple of guys get injured, like they might coach might just

01:37:54 call my number. Yeah. I think he was hoping Rick Carlisle was going to look down the bench. I think

01:37:57 it was a Tyrese Halliburton Jersey, um, from the video I saw and thought, Hey, Tyrese, get into

01:38:03 the game, but not you Tyrese. We want this guy a little stronger. Yeah, exactly. A little stronger.

01:38:08 And he might be able to, you know, put play some post defense a little bit better.

01:38:10 It's kind of box somebody out. Yeah. Yeah. Just face guard them. So, so we're running this,

01:38:15 we're going to run this Friday. Um, so there will be, I think the Celtics will probably finish their

01:38:19 business with the calves between then and now. Uh, and we, but we have a couple other series.

01:38:24 So in terms of like the teams you've played or the teams are still left and playing them this year,

01:38:29 who do you think is like the best full team right now left in the playoffs?

01:38:33 Uh, look, I grew up seven miles outside of the city of Boston. Uh, as much as it now,

01:38:40 I was a Celtics fan as a kid, growing up Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, the whole thing. Um,

01:38:45 I've gotten to a place now where, or I enjoy beating the Celtics. Uh, but, uh, I do think

01:38:51 unbiasedly they have the best team left. Uh, at least in the East. Um, you know, when you talk

01:38:56 about the West, I think the Denver, Minnesota series has been incredible. Um, obviously everyone

01:39:00 knows no home team has won yet, but, uh, for Denver to go down to, well at home and come back

01:39:05 and win two in Minnesota, uh, speaks a lot to the championship that they won last year and the, uh,

01:39:10 culture that they have over there. But it also speaks a lot to what Minnesota has been able to

01:39:14 do when everyone kind of wrote them off a year or two ago when they made the trade for, for Rudy.

01:39:20 Yeah. Um, because they're doing great things and they're showing, uh, that they have a future with

01:39:25 the group that they have. And obviously Ant-Man's doing a tremendous job and he's fun to watch. And,

01:39:30 um, I think he's got a great way about him. I think he's got a great confidence to him that

01:39:33 doesn't come off as arrogance. Um, and he just kind of speaks with his mind, but it's in a funny

01:39:38 and jovial way, which I think is really fun to watch and really fun to root for. Can you, can

01:39:43 you feel when you're on the court with Anthony Edwards that he's got more dog than everyone else?

01:39:49 Yeah, I think you can. I think the thing about him is he's got this competitiveness to him that I

01:39:56 think a lot of NBA guys have, but he's able to do it in a way where he's still having fun. So it's

01:40:02 almost like a slap in your face. Like you're still having fun and you're, you're beating me or you're

01:40:07 doing all these things that you're doing. Uh, you're not just like fully locked in. He is locked

01:40:12 in, but it doesn't look like he's always just fully locked in. He's smiling. He's having fun.

01:40:15 He's talking his trash. Um, and it gets them going. And I think at 22 years of age. Yeah.

01:40:21 Do you think you're ever going to compete in the slam dunk contest again?

01:40:25 Uh, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. I got to, uh, I got to get my bounce back to a place

01:40:30 where it needs to be. Um, when you jump heck, as long as I've jumped and you're 31 years old,

01:40:36 um, there's some underlying injuries that, that come along with that, that I got to get back to

01:40:41 a, to a healthy place. And now that I have, unfortunately a longer off season, I'm hoping

01:40:45 to do that. So what's your, what are your prime ages in terms of jumping? I gotta say 18 to 28.

01:40:51 Okay. So 30 is what will Hank? He's not here right now. We'll have him show you his progress

01:40:57 jumping exercises trying to dunk. We made him, we made a bet with him. He's 30. Um, he's, I think

01:41:02 it's like a 10 grand bet. He's gonna, he's got a dunk by the end of the year. He's got no chance.

01:41:08 So where did he start? Nowhere below the rim and he's still below the net. He can touch the

01:41:15 backboard. Yeah, he can. He kinda, yeah, he can touch the backboard on a high school room,

01:41:20 backboard on an NBA rim. Two different types of backwards backwards. It's different. Yeah. You

01:41:24 never see where the backboard comes down on a high school room. It comes down lower than on

01:41:28 an NBA. So maybe he's touching Mickey mouse backwards. Yeah. Well, I mean, if the backboard

01:41:32 came down that low on an NBA rim, you guys would hit their heads knocked out during the game.

01:41:36 Yeah. That's a good point. Anthony Edwards still does sometimes. Yeah, exactly. But Griffin,

01:41:40 Anthony Edwards, I still do that. When he touches rim, how far away is he from that point? Cause

01:41:44 he hasn't touched rim yet. Uh, so you got to get like, can you palm a basketball? No, probably not.

01:41:50 If you can't Palm it, you probably got to get to here. If you can't call him,

01:41:53 but you can come down here. Yeah. Max text Hank. We got to get him. He said that his,

01:41:57 his strategy is going to be to do like an alley oop. That way the ball isn't weighing him down

01:42:00 when he's jumping. That's a good strategy, but he needs who's throwing the pass. That's a good

01:42:05 question because, well, if you're throwing the pass and you're incentivized to not throw a good

01:42:09 pass. Yeah, exactly. Oh shit. He started out like, I'd say nine, nine inches away from the rim. Now

01:42:16 he's down to maybe six or maybe four or five. He's made some progress, but he's still not at the rim

01:42:22 yet. Yeah. I mean, if you're not at the, so it's going to go like this being a guy who was like

01:42:27 hell bent on dunking, um, since I was in sixth grade and I was a short chubby kid in sixth grade.

01:42:32 Like if we had a photo of it, I wouldn't show you because of how short and chubby I was in sixth

01:42:36 grade, but I was fortunate to grow vertically instead of horizontally seventh and eighth grade.

01:42:40 Um, and it is a process. Like you grab the net. Great. You love it. Slap the backboard on all

01:42:46 your layups. Great. Love it. Can grab the rim, not just touch it, but grab it. Great. Dunk a

01:42:51 tennis ball, volleyball. And then you try to be able to dunk a basketball. How long did that process

01:42:57 play out for when you went from touching it took me two years to the took me two years. When did

01:43:01 you first dunk? Oh, from touching the rim. Yeah. It took me a year. Yeah. First dunk in eighth

01:43:06 grade, eighth grade, end of eighth grade. Pat said, you have to be like, the rim has to be like

01:43:10 here on your hand. That's a problem. I will. Can you Palm a basketball? Kind of. No, then it could

01:43:19 be, I can, I can Palm a basketball, like standing still. But if I wasn't start moving, like I

01:43:23 couldn't Palm it and run. And your, your tactic is the alley. You tactic is going to be alley. Yeah.

01:43:28 Maybe like the throw it up. You want it to be right up. You need somebody to throw it right

01:43:32 above the rim. Like, like, like literally you just drop it in. Yeah. I was thinking like,

01:43:37 throw it up to myself where you throw it super high and then just like kind of guide it down.

01:43:40 Yeah. That that's going to be tough. Wait. So you're going to throw it up in the air. And then

01:43:45 as it's still in there, you're going to run up to the hoop and then jump up and then dunk it in

01:43:49 yourself. I'm hoping he's going to let it bounce. Oh no. You can't Palm a basketball. Are you a

01:43:54 lefty? Depends on the ball. Yeah. Oh wow. I just like to say I used to, I hope my son's a lefty.

01:44:00 My son, my first son's a lefty. So I've thought about that. Can you train your son to be a lefty?

01:44:05 Like if you just don't let them use their right hand ever. So I've actually heard a story of,

01:44:10 of that happening. So like my dad is a lefty, but growing up, he was one of eight. When they'd go

01:44:15 out to play baseball, they didn't have a right fielder. So they made him bat righty. And he

01:44:20 thinks he would have been better if they just let him bat lefty. So he can bat right. He plays golf

01:44:26 right. He does everything. So I think it's possible, but I don't know if you're able to

01:44:29 reach your full potential if you like force it upon. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's funny because

01:44:34 it happens very naturally where it's like, like, like all of a sudden he's like just holding shit

01:44:39 with his left hand. You're like, Oh shit. And then like, we're playing T-ball now.

01:44:42 And the first practice they tried to have him hit right. He couldn't do anything. I was like,

01:44:46 flip them around. And then he started hitting it. Yeah. Yeah. It is wild. It's wild that like the

01:44:50 human body has a way they want to do things at that age. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, go ahead, Hank.

01:44:56 I'd just like to say, Pat, I'm, I'm, I'm happy your career panned out. I grew up in Massachusetts

01:45:01 around the same time and you were, what was a situate? I forget what the name of the magazine.

01:45:05 We play situate ESPN rise. It was like the free one that would be in the library and you would be

01:45:11 on the cover every single season. Baseball, basketball, baseball, basketball, baseball,

01:45:15 basketball. Like I remember my whole high school. The reason I remember that was they made me do a

01:45:19 photo shoot and you know, Massachusetts, it was right before basketball season. It's Thanksgiving

01:45:24 outside and they wanted to do that baseball, basketball theme. And I was on the baseball

01:45:29 field with a basketball Jersey on in a baseball pants and it was freezing. I was like, we couldn't

01:45:35 have just staged us. There wasn't like a backdrop, a green screen back then. We could have done

01:45:39 some such a funny photo shoot. It's like, this guy plays a lot of sports. Let's have him wear

01:45:43 all of his shirts at once. Oh, you don't believe that he plays all these sports. Look right here.

01:45:48 Yeah. He's got them all. I can just imagine like Hank going home to his parents and they've got

01:45:51 these magazines out and they're like, why can't you be more like that? Pat Connors? No, it was in

01:45:54 the library. It's like you'd go to the library and then you obviously weren't trying to do any

01:45:57 worse. You just pick up. Yeah. It was like, this kid's going to be the greatest player of all time.

01:46:01 He's going to cover every single fucking, cause they would do like one a season or whatever.

01:46:04 Yeah. Yeah. I remember I used to get heckled with it. I used to walk into gyms, high school gyms

01:46:08 for a game my senior year and they'd all have the magazine and in the magazine, it would say like

01:46:13 things you like. So like, I don't know if you remember Puppa Geno's Puppa Geno's like was my

01:46:17 spot. It's a chain back home. Um, yeah, chicken Buffalo chicken fingers or whatever it had. And

01:46:23 so they'd all make fun of me for like my interests. Like run this town was my favorite song at the

01:46:27 time. So they'd play it, they'd play it before and like give me, yeah, it was, they did some good,

01:46:32 they had some good stuff. There was some cleverness. Did you ever, I know you played

01:46:35 baseball at Notre Dame as well. Was it like, has there ever been a moment where you're like, I'm,

01:46:39 I would like to try, you know, go to a maybe spring training or something or is that moment passed?

01:46:44 I did it. Yeah. You did. Oh, so you did. Went to, I got drafted out of high school, but went to

01:46:49 school and it was like, I want to play both. And then I got drafted after my junior year at Notre

01:46:53 Dame in the fourth round and went over that summer to play a pro baseball for the Aberdeen ironbirds

01:47:00 in the Orioles farm farm system. Um, the summer before I played in the Cape, but I did it for

01:47:06 that whole summer. Then went back to school. Part of the deal was, um, you know, it's kind of why,

01:47:12 you know, fourth round is great, but I kind of dropped because I told everybody before the

01:47:15 draft, Hey, I want to go back to school. Like I want to finish my basketball career. And I only

01:47:20 had half a semester left to graduate. Right. And so they let me go back and their exact quote was,

01:47:25 uh, well, yeah, you won't get drafted in basketball. So go ahead, go back and we'll see you

01:47:28 at spring training like the next year. And I was like, great, thanks so much. And then I ended up

01:47:32 getting drafted. I haven't gone back yet. So did you, how did you do when you were in the, the good,

01:47:37 good. Yeah. I pitched, I started, I was starting pitcher. Um, I was in short season a, which I

01:47:42 think they did away with now. I think it's just low a and high a. Um, and I think I started five

01:47:48 or six games that summer before I ended up having to go back. Cause they make you go to extended

01:47:52 spring training first. So it doesn't start till like July. Um, my ERA was right around two.

01:47:58 Oh shit. So it was good. I mean, have you thought maybe like when you retire from basketball, like

01:48:03 that would be a cool story. Yeah. I mean, look, if, if the, if the, the Pat coaching network

01:48:08 doesn't come through and I get a few more jobs, then, uh, I've looked, I've thought about going

01:48:13 back potentially. I mean, as a pitcher, I feel like it gives me the best chance, right? I got

01:48:18 to get my arm a little bit more back in shape, but from an athleticism standpoint, uh, no disrespect

01:48:23 to the pitchers, but I'd like to think I'm probably a little more athletic than most of the pitchers

01:48:26 out there having played in the NBA. Yeah. Wait. So what was your, what was your fastball? 98.

01:48:31 Yeah. Maybe Adam Silver says, Hey, why don't you, uh, take a couple of years off. We're going to

01:48:35 just say that you're retired, go play minor league baseball and then come back. I appreciate that.

01:48:39 I think we should compare Anthony Edwards more to Michael Jordan than myself, but I know where

01:48:43 you're going with that. What can you throw right now? Like, like a regular warmup, obviously

01:48:48 haven't been training, but what do you think you could throw? I think I could get it low nineties.

01:48:52 I think so. This was actually a debate. This was a debate during the season, the strength

01:48:57 and conditioning department and the PT department within the bucks. We're talking, what do you think

01:49:01 I could get it back up to if you gave me six months? Okay. So, um, Christian Yelich was in

01:49:06 your slam dunk competition. Yes, he was. If he competes in the home run derby, you should throw

01:49:11 pitches for us. That would be awesome. Just throw gas. And we're not going to tell you why we need

01:49:17 you to do this. We just need Christian Yelich not to win the home run derby. Got it. Got it.

01:49:21 If Christian Yelich wins the home run derby, PFT and I have to eat each other's ass.

01:49:24 Holy shit. Who made that bet? We did. Do you get anything on the other end? No,

01:49:28 we're the dumbest people ever. What do you mean? It was before he started hitting home runs and

01:49:33 he was like, I'm all, it was when he was still with the Marlins and we had him on, it was like,

01:49:37 what? Six, six years ago. A great dude. He's been on a bunch. He's a good friend. Uh, and we're,

01:49:43 he was like, yeah, I can hit home runs. We're like, no, you can't dude. And I think there was

01:49:47 a, it was right when there was a porn video out that he looked like a doppelganger for a dude who

01:49:52 was eating ass in a porn video and we brought it up to him. And this was pre only fans. Pre only.

01:49:58 Yeah. But it was like, it was a pretty out there rumor already. Like people had said like,

01:50:02 is this Christian Yelich? He was aware of the fact that he looked like a guy and it's so bad.

01:50:06 Very bad video. Explain this out loud. Yeah. But, but if he's in the home run, that'd be so natural.

01:50:11 Be like, you helped me out in the slam dunk competition. I want to help you out in the home

01:50:15 run. Oh, 92 throw some curve ball. And, and, and they throw pitches from in front of the mouth.

01:50:19 Yeah. So my 92 might seem like a hundred. Yeah. Wait, what other pictures did you have?

01:50:24 Basketball. So the thing, the reason 98, I mean, nowadays isn't really that fast guys

01:50:29 are throwing above a hundred, but the reason I was good in baseball was I had natural,

01:50:33 like to see movement. So I had this down and out to a lefty movement on my four seam fastball.

01:50:40 And so I did a fastball, I had a curve ball, I had a splitter and I had a change up.

01:50:44 Um, and my idol growing up was Pedro Martinez. So watching him pitch, I did, I tried to basically

01:50:49 throw the pitches he threw. Um, he had a slider instead of a splitter, but the way he threw his

01:50:54 circle change was with that exact four seam, um, grip. And so for me, my fastball did a little

01:51:00 down and away. So when I did the four seam circle change, it went like way down and away. And that's

01:51:05 what everybody from like a scout standpoint would drool over is this looks like a fastball. Like

01:51:10 it's impossible to figure out the difference and it moves away. Like, can you stop playing

01:51:14 basketball? And I was like, you got to do this. Like I, even like, I hope you're in the NBA for,

01:51:18 you know, six, seven, eight, whatever, how many more years you want to be in the NBA.

01:51:21 But when you do retire, you need to at least try. Cause it would be such a cool,

01:51:27 how, how long did Jamie Moyer pitch to, Oh, he was like 40. Yeah. So look, we got time. I'm 31. I

01:51:34 got what, like 13 years before that happens. Yeah. Yeah. You could do it. Are you still an

01:51:39 Oriole? Do they still have your rights? So my rights. So I did, they were the Orioles have

01:51:43 been great to me. Obviously I went and I played pro ball that summer. Um, and when I didn't come

01:51:49 back, they were basically like, Hey, we gave you a signing bonus. You didn't come back. Um, so they

01:51:54 went to the commissioner and they're just, they put me on what's called a reserved list. They

01:51:58 were basically like, Hey, we want something for the signing bonus aside from just a summer of pro

01:52:01 baseball. Cause basically what it was like, I went to play pro baseball and I retired,

01:52:04 but I'd never retired. Um, so they, my rights were like paused right then.

01:52:09 And so if you went, if you said, Hey, I want to be back, you'd get the money.

01:52:12 No, no, no. I already got all the money. I already got all the money. But if I wanted to go back,

01:52:17 they were like, I'm a, cause they paid you the money. Correct. So I think it's still four or

01:52:22 five years left. Technically, if I went back for the Orioles that they have my rights for what

01:52:26 they pay, uh, like 400 grand, that's pretty good for a little extended. It was before NIL. No big

01:52:32 deal. It was before NIL. Oh, so your senior year at, at, at Notre Dame, you were walking around

01:52:36 with some cash. I had a little cash. Is that a violation? No, because I did not go back and play

01:52:42 baseball at Notre Dame. Oh, that makes sense. Such a great loophole. If you heard an incredible

01:52:48 athlete, everyone should try that. Yeah. I mean, this is something that like SEC football could

01:52:55 definitely do. If Brian Kelly just has guys on his football team, he's like, Hey, I've got a

01:52:59 good relationship with, uh, I don't know, like the Atlanta Braves. They're going to sign you for an

01:53:03 off season to be a baseball player. You're not going to have to play. And then you're just a

01:53:06 no show job for a hundred grand and no show job and come back. Yeah. Adding to the NIL. You guys

01:53:10 should, yeah. Maybe you should take a commission on that. That's a good idea. Yeah. I'll talk to

01:53:14 the guys at JMU about that. Maybe we need, we should do is we should see if we can become an

01:53:18 unaffiliated baseball team and sign guys that way. Yeah. There's no baseball being played ever.

01:53:24 Yeah. What is that team? What is the bananas team? Savannah, Savannah bananas. 100% starts

01:53:29 on affiliated leagues. Yeah. Independent ball. Yeah. No doubt. Okay. I'll build you the, uh,

01:53:35 stadium, the real estate stuff I do. I'll build you. Yeah. So you, you are a real estate mogul.

01:53:39 I actually, uh, last night we were Pat, uh, Bev and Rhone were doing a live stream for the, uh,

01:53:45 Mavs Thunder game and I joined it for a little bit and I mentioned, I was like, Oh, Pat Constance

01:53:49 coming in. And Rhone said that when he was at a game, whatever it was game two, maybe against

01:53:55 the Pacers, he was sitting next to a guy who was like, you see Pat Constance, he's my landlord.

01:54:00 That's pretty weird that you could just go to a box game and be like, that's the guy I pay my

01:54:05 rent check to. So how, how much real estate do you have? Uh, quite a bit. Yeah. I got quite a bit.

01:54:11 Yeah. We've got, so, uh, our portfolio is probably right around 200, $250 million. Um, we got

01:54:19 probably 150, 155 investors, a lot of them professional athletes. The idea behind it is,

01:54:25 Hey, um, you know, financial wealth, right. Or financial education. How do we make sure

01:54:30 that, um, guys, you know, that 30 for 30 broke on ESPN. Uh, we want to try to make sure that

01:54:36 doesn't happen. And so for me, um, being a guy in the locker room, a guy that, you know, guys trust

01:54:41 and a guy that's doing it with his own money anyway, having them come in and understand how

01:54:46 investing in real estate works and being able to tangibly see it and be able to like do it a little

01:54:50 bit differently where as a construction process is going on, I'm sending them updates to the job

01:54:55 site. So they see what their money has been doing as a project gets finished and it gets,

01:55:00 uh, obviously rented and stabilized and things like that. You're able to see, all right, this

01:55:05 is where the money's coming from. This is how much costs on a monthly basis is how much, uh, the rent

01:55:09 we're coming in. And this is kind of the net and this is my return on investment. And then, you

01:55:13 know, obviously as that happens, we get to invest into another one. And so it's been a lot of fun

01:55:17 for me just getting guys involved and educating them at a high level on real estate investing.

01:55:22 And then I've had a lot of great mentors, like, to be honest, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for

01:55:26 that from a real estate standpoint, my dad was a general contractor, which is how I got into it.

01:55:30 Um, but they've done a great job of continuing to help me build and grow it. So I got 19 employees,

01:55:35 that's awesome. And 150 investors. And we're in four States, um, with projects and, um, we're

01:55:42 doing all residential or commercial as well. Uh, make sure both. Yeah. So make sure you have some

01:55:46 residential. We should do like a, anybody that comes on the show that wants some financial

01:55:50 education or wants to invest, we'll let them have their own little portion of the, you know,

01:55:55 I like that. Can I do a sidebar real quick? And legends can also have it. Yeah. Legends

01:56:00 sidebar sidebar. And this is a patch in here. This is what he's doing in real estate is incredible.

01:56:06 And it sounds awesome. Um, if it ended up being a Ponzi scheme and he stole everyone's money,

01:56:11 this, this portion of the podcast probably in being the documentary and in a court of law too.

01:56:16 Yeah. Okay. Sidebar over. Yeah. So that's awesome. That's no, no, no full transparency,

01:56:21 full transparency. I just, in my head, I was like, we're going to be on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah.

01:56:26 Well, why can't, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why can't it be a success story that extremely successful?

01:56:32 Yeah. Great business. If you exit at the right time. Yeah. Yeah. You're doing great. Did you

01:56:40 start just like owning, uh, like small units? Like I started flipping one house. Wow. So you started

01:56:46 out like fixing toilets and shit. Yeah. Well, yeah, basically I started out working on my dad's

01:56:51 job sites. So prior to owning a house and flipping it, I was hauling lumber sheet, rock cleaning,

01:56:57 dumpsters, like doing all the stuff you don't want to do. One day I cleaned a dumpster and

01:57:00 obviously my dad was, um, taught me hard work, all that sort of stuff. He was very adamant about how

01:57:05 you clean the dumpster. Like you can't just throw stuff in it because then there's empty space. So

01:57:09 you got to like pack it correctly because he doesn't want to have multiple dumpster runs that

01:57:13 cost some money. Um, and so I learned how to pack it the right way. And then I learned how to take

01:57:18 two by fours or plywood and put them up on the sides so you could actually grow the dumpster and

01:57:22 put more stuff in. Um, I made the mistake of doing it with sheet rock the first time I did it. And

01:57:27 anybody that knows sheet rock, once it gets to a certain point, it just goes, it just breaks. So

01:57:32 the guy that was driving the dumpster, uh, my buddy and I did it, uh, pulled out, took a right.

01:57:38 And you just hear, and one of the sheet rock panels went and all that stuff from the dumpster

01:57:43 like flattened out, but it was off his job site. So it was now on the guy who was doing the dumpster

01:57:47 a run his fault. But Joe and I helped him. Yeah. Wait. So, uh, as it, let's just do dumpster talk

01:57:53 real quick. How much does it piss you off if you have a site and people just randomly throw stuff

01:57:58 in the dumpster? Cause I do that all the time. If I see a dumpster, I'll be like, I need to just,

01:58:02 I'll like go, go back home, get some trash, throw it in the dumpster. Yeah, we, we have, uh,

01:58:07 cameras. So when somebody does that, we then put a video of them up right next to the dumpster the

01:58:12 next day. And it usually has them. I might have to go up to your, to Milwaukee and just start

01:58:16 just throwing shit. It would be great content. I just drive around with a trash bag in my car,

01:58:21 just in case I see a dumpster. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Uh, yeah, but you know,

01:58:27 it's gray area. It's kind of like a Ponzi scheme. Yeah, right. Exactly. You don't really know.

01:58:31 Yeah. I wouldn't really know in terms of crime in this country. I think throwing away trash

01:58:34 probably pretty low. Well, I was going to say, isn't it interesting that throwing away trash

01:58:39 in a dumpster is a crime, but like throwing it on the ground isn't technically a crime,

01:58:43 but you should never litter. Well, I think littering is a crime. Is it for, well,

01:58:48 on highways and stuff, you definitely can get fines. Yeah. But yeah, I love what you say, Max,

01:58:52 have you ever found any like high school kids that put, put together like a couple of trash

01:58:57 bags of beer that go into your dumpster? Oh, Max, anything specific? Well, I mean,

01:59:01 mean, means we're just saying that was a big time move. That was a classic move when you were in

01:59:05 high school. Yeah. Or like after like a bachelor party and you're like, I don't know where the

01:59:08 fuck to throw it. It's like, Oh, we saw a dumpster down the street. Let's just throw

01:59:11 everything in there. In the random dumpster. Yeah. College kids. We see college kids do it

01:59:14 for sure. So is it weird knowing like when you're playing a game that there's probably

01:59:20 hundreds of people in the stadium that are sending you like lease checks? You're their landlord?

01:59:25 Yeah. I mean, not really, but like it's a different scale. I don't think many professional

01:59:31 athletes are collecting rent checks is scale that we are. Yeah. Take offense to the phrase

01:59:36 rent free. When someone's like, I'm rent free in your head. You're like, nobody's rent free, buddy.

01:59:39 Yeah, I do. Actually. I've said that to somebody. I'm living rent free in your head. And I go,

01:59:44 there's, there is no free rent. We want to make sure our tenants love where they live.

01:59:48 It's a fair price. Sometimes we're just below market to make them feel good.

01:59:51 So that, you know, obviously a professional athlete owning units, there can be a lot of

01:59:55 hate on the Twitter. Yeah. I was going to say like, if you ever had someone like,

01:59:59 as you're like going to the tunnel, they're like, Hey, Hey Pat, like my toilet hasn't worked for a

02:00:03 week. You fucking send someone over. Yeah. I've had somebody do that in an away arena though. So

02:00:08 I know they weren't actually serious because I didn't own any units. Yeah. All right. I need

02:00:12 people to start doing that. Just start yelling like random, like, Hey, my lights out and you

02:00:17 guys haven't done anything. I got a leak. It's a bad infestation. I've got ants.

02:00:22 I will say, I will say we don't do our own property management as far as the liability

02:00:27 standpoint. We don't do our own. We third party that out and we make sure we try to have the

02:00:30 best property manager that we can have so that things get fixed on time on task and no one has

02:00:35 any problems. I have a real estate development project for you. What do you got? Can I pitch

02:00:39 you on this? Yeah. Pitch me. All right. So it's like an amusement park, except it's just sports.

02:00:43 Right. So you've got, you've got the 17th hole at Sawgrass. That's part of it. That's like one

02:00:49 section of it. You've got a baseball stadium. That's the size and exact dimensions of like

02:00:54 Fenway park and then a batting machine, a pitching machine. So you can just go yard on that. And

02:00:59 then you've got a football field and you've got like a roster of guys, like 11 guys that you can

02:01:04 be a quarterback and throw touchdown passes to like college athletes, things like that. You just

02:01:08 bounce around. It's like just an amusement park, but for sports are you in? I love the idea. How

02:01:14 does it make money? People, people buy tickets and then we charge a fuck load for service for

02:01:20 like concessions. We'll go to $15 a soda. You can come see us. Can we move like barstool headquarters

02:01:26 there? Can it have its own? You have to pay us though. You can like, that's not how rent works.

02:01:31 You guys have to pay us an appearance. No, it's like, it's like triple double dipping. Yeah.

02:01:35 So where's the Ponzi scheme really? It's a real estate term. It's called double dip.

02:01:40 Yeah, no, we, we put it, we put the barstool sports name on it. Like Trump does on the

02:01:43 building here in Chicago. So everyone's like, it's the barstool sports thing, but we actually

02:01:47 don't do anything. We just come up with the idea. Wouldn't you want to like participate?

02:01:50 Yeah. We get free admission for a fee, but we get free admission. Yeah. They can pay us to show up.

02:01:55 So he wants to get paid. You just want free admission on the first day. It's we just show

02:02:00 up for free. And then every time after that, it's like, will you please come take batting practice?

02:02:04 Here's $5,000, a pitch, a pitch. Yeah. What if you don't hit it? 10,000. No, no. I was going to

02:02:11 say, if you miss, you should owe us five. Yeah, that's true. Oh, that's actually, yeah. And I'll

02:02:14 pitch to you. That'd be part of the work to my comeback. Yeah. That's not bad. You could also

02:02:18 set up like gambling on how much, how much contact each person is going to make. If that's very true.

02:02:24 95 mile an hour fastballs, we call that the Pat. You step into the batter's box and you say,

02:02:29 I think I'm going to make contact with more than four pitches. If you do, then you get your money

02:02:33 back. If you don't, then you pay double. So I will say this has been a topic in the two locker

02:02:38 rooms that I've been a part of Portland Trailblazers in Milwaukee. Do you think you could

02:02:43 make contact if I pitched you? No, no, I'm fairly confident that I wouldn't. How many pitches do

02:02:50 you think it would? Yeah. Not even falling off. I think, no, I don't think so. You don't think so?

02:02:55 No, no, I haven't really swung a bat at anything above like 60 miles an hour. I guess if you gave

02:03:00 me like a hundred pitches, I'd probably get a lucky one just by just time, like dumb luck timing it.

02:03:05 Yeah. But it wouldn't be any skill of like, I saw the ball and like barreled it up. Yeah. Yeah.

02:03:12 Yeah. Okay. So I got a lot of teammates that think they can do it. Get a hit, get, make contact.

02:03:16 Yeah. Well, I actually, I've seen some, I've seen some what, oh Matt. Oh yeah. Give me 10 swings.

02:03:23 I'm taking you deep. Taking me deep. I never gave up a home run. 10 A's. 10 A's. You never

02:03:27 gave up a home run? Never given up a home run? At high school I did. I never gave up a home run

02:03:30 since high school. Not in college in all three years. Not in the pros. But you're, you got to

02:03:34 understand you're talking to the Matt Stairs of the CAA right there. Yeah. Max played at Hofstra.

02:03:39 He was a pinch hitter. What was your stats? I hit three home runs. How many pinch hits?

02:03:43 45 at bats. Wow. Oh, that's a pretty good percentage for home runs. Yeah. I will say,

02:03:49 you know my secret sauce? What? I don't always throw it in the strike zone. Oh, so now I'm at

02:03:56 zero cause I would be standing so far away. Yeah. So you're going to hit me. I'll be completely

02:04:00 honest with you. There have been a few pitches. There have been a few pitches in my collegiate

02:04:04 career that went behind a batter. Okay. That'd be terrifying. Yeah. And it wasn't on purpose. Like

02:04:09 I didn't do it on purpose. I'm just wildly affected. We got to do this though. We got to get

02:04:13 Max. We should. A hundred percent. See if we can get it. And you said 10 pitches? Well, 10 A's,

02:04:18 10 A's. 10 A's is different than 10 pitches. Well, you know, you, you, I didn't know that

02:04:24 zero home run since high school stat. Oh, throwing it behind guys. Yeah. Am I allowed to throw other

02:04:29 pitches? I'll wear the fuck out of a pitch if you throw it, man. Oh, that's good. That's good.

02:04:33 That's what you're supposed to do. You take, take your base. I also, am I allowed to mix up the

02:04:37 pitches or got to be? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Real batter. As a pinch hitter, I was also second in

02:04:41 my team and hit by pitches. I love wearing pitches. That's a savage stat. That's a good,

02:04:47 Hey, that's, that's having a dog in you as a baseball player. That's what that is. My favorite

02:04:51 thing about Max's college career is that sometimes he would pinch hit and then he'd like walk and

02:04:55 then go to first base and they'd take him out and put a pinch runner. And that was his entire day.

02:04:58 Good day at the office. That's an unbelievable day at the office.

02:05:02 We actually, we held the university of Illinois, Chicago. Is it UIC, right? We held them to a one

02:05:10 run in two innings. Yeah. Like as a podcast. PFT pitching, I was catching. We had the guys in the

02:05:16 outfield. Yeah. We had, they, they played infield. So that helped. Um, it was kind of embarrassing

02:05:21 for him actually, but it actually was a good motivator for them because they're really good

02:05:24 team. They had a good season since then. So maybe we're just really good actually. Yeah. I think we

02:05:29 were, I think PFT was pitching slow enough that they didn't know what to do. Like that was, it

02:05:33 felt like you, you hit that. Their timing was off. Yeah. It was like 60 miles an hour. It's like,

02:05:37 all right, what is it? Average 68.5. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good. You were throwing guy. It was

02:05:42 cold that day. It was really cool. Oh, that's tough. Yeah, that is tough. What is your best

02:05:46 sport podcast? Uh, I mean, it's kind of old, probably average basketball I would guess. Cause

02:05:52 like Hank and big cat aren't bad. I stink. Does watching sports count as a sport? No. Okay. Not

02:05:59 in this instance. Okay. Um, like golf, how are we at golf? Oh yeah. Golf I guess. Yeah. Although

02:06:05 we kind of suck at that too. We stink at every sport. Um, we have basketball scramble and we're

02:06:10 like, we'll go under par. Yeah. No, I'm gonna close. Yeah, no. Yeah. Well, what course are you

02:06:14 playing? It was the easy one. We suck. Was it the par three? No, it wasn't par three. We suck at

02:06:20 everything. We are, we do what we do. I would say we are very good at watching golf. Yeah. Yeah. I

02:06:25 would say you're elite at watching. Yeah. Top point. Elite. Oh, 1%. A hundred percent. I'm

02:06:30 actually nasty at Frisbee golf. I am that. I don't know if that's a sport for all shout out all the

02:06:35 for all fours out there. Um, basketball. Yeah, I guess, but we're, we're bad, but like we can,

02:06:40 at least we could feel the team. Yeah. Yeah. We could, we have five memes. Good. Yeah. We'd be

02:06:45 okay. Um, all right. So I got one last question. This has been awesome. Pat having you come down

02:06:49 here and we do have to do a video of you striking max out and maybe hitting them in the head. That

02:06:53 would be awesome. It's a fucking beans you in the head. We'll have them sign all the liability.

02:06:58 We don't care. I did. I accidentally hit a kid in the head in high school and the ball hit off

02:07:02 his helmet and went into the air all the way back to me at the mound. I caught it. Yeah. Yeah. I

02:07:08 felt, I felt bad. Yeah. All right. So my last question, rowback question, RHO, BACK.com,

02:07:13 promo code take Q-Zips, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo code take. I know the

02:07:18 answer to this, but I'm going to still ask you anyway. Last time you were on, you told us some

02:07:22 good Yana stories, how he's a superstar, but he's still like putting in the work and, and a regular

02:07:28 guy has any of that changed? Is he still the same guy where it's like, from our perspective, he just

02:07:34 loves life, loves basketball and still works like countless, countless hours. Is that still the same?

02:07:40 Yeah. A hundred percent. I mean, I would say the, the thing that I feel for Yarnis most is he

02:07:46 works so hard because he wants to win so bad. He wants to help his team win so bad.

02:07:52 And the last two years, he hasn't really been able to play in the playoffs and like, think about,

02:07:57 and I know obviously we are all fortunate to do what we do for a living and get paid handsomely

02:08:02 for it. But, you know, you go through an 82 game season and I think he played more games this year

02:08:09 than he, than he has in quite a few years in totality throughout that 82 games. And then

02:08:16 you're not able to play in the playoffs. You get injured right before the players, not able to play.

02:08:19 And now you can't be out there to help your team compete during the time in which you're

02:08:24 preparing the entire year for. And you got to wait until next year and you got to go through

02:08:28 the whole thing again before you get another opportunity. And then the same thing happens

02:08:32 again and you're not able to compete and you got to sit there and kind of watch your team

02:08:36 as we were unable to, you know, to obviously help him have an opportunity to play. And that

02:08:41 was something I even said to him on the plane back from Indiana. I just said, man, I'm sorry

02:08:45 about that. Like, I'm sorry we weren't able to get you an opportunity to play in the playoffs

02:08:50 because I know how much it means to you to win. I know how much work you put in. I know how much

02:08:54 you care about your craft and about your teammates around you and the organization you play for in

02:08:58 the city of Milwaukee. And we weren't able to get to a place where we were able to give you

02:09:04 an opportunity to play in the playoffs, which is, you know, kind of what you live for in the

02:09:08 basketball sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great dude. Great guy. Seems like a fun guy. Actually,

02:09:13 we had his back when he gave that post game presser when he got found. Oh, I didn't. I think

02:09:18 we did a couple of years ago. You might have. I think we said, I think we said, yeah, he's,

02:09:22 I mean, he's right. Like, oh yeah, that part. You can, you can still have a good season if you don't

02:09:27 win a championship. It's still like, okay, only one team gets to do this. Not. I mean, look, it's

02:09:32 a healthy perspective. It's about the, it's about the process, about the journey. It's about getting

02:09:36 better. Right. I think that's when, when he talks about things of that nature and has talks about

02:09:41 that press conference, you're talking about, it's like you can't be a failure if you're utilizing

02:09:47 adversity, if you're utilizing failure to grow and be better about it the next year,

02:09:52 in my opinion, right? Like you're not going to win a championship every single year. I don't

02:09:55 know anybody that has, right. But when we're in a position to win a championship, when we fall short

02:09:59 of that goal, it can only be a failure if you don't utilize that experience to build upon it.

02:10:04 In my opinion. Yeah. I just want on the record. I'm pretty sure I called it loser talk. Cause I

02:10:08 know bucks fans will be mad if I pretend I didn't, if you pretend you didn't what call it loser talk.

02:10:13 I did. I think we said, I definitely said it was loser talk, but I have a, I mean,

02:10:19 bucks fans are Packers fan. I hate them all. It's good perspective, but also, uh, some of the best

02:10:23 athletes of all time have absolutely zero perspective on anything. Right. That is very

02:10:28 true. Like Tom Brady, Tom Brady has no perspective on anything. Yeah. Michael Jordan probably doesn't

02:10:32 have no perspective, but that's what makes them who they are. Yeah. I mean, and they're competitive.

02:10:38 Yeah. They're competitive dudes. I mean, they're, they're winners. They've done a lot of winning in

02:10:42 their career. I mean, my whole childhood in new England, our whole childhood, he left, um,

02:10:47 was winning because of Tom. Yeah. Yeah. And the Celtics and the Bruins and the Red Sox,

02:10:53 Yukon basketball and the Red Sox. Yeah. You've got pretty good. If you're

02:10:56 you guys, let me ask you a quick question before we get off. Do you guys think

02:11:00 that the professional sports in Boston prevent the collegiate sports from

02:11:08 raising their level to national champions? That's an interesting question because I think that in,

02:11:13 in the South, especially like college football, you get smaller towns or smaller cities and their

02:11:19 professional sports are college sports. Yeah. That's where it is. Um, so there's probably some

02:11:24 truth to that where I think it's also just big schools are always going to have an advantage.

02:11:28 Like when you, when you think about like smaller schools in the Northeast first, like a big 10 or

02:11:33 sec, they're just the, the amount of like people that they draw from. Yeah. I don't know. That's

02:11:39 it. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I think, um, the, the further Midwest you get, the further South you

02:11:43 get, the colleges are for the most part, not always, but they're located in towns where they

02:11:47 pretty much run the entire city. Right. Right. The city is that college. And in the Northeast,

02:11:52 everything is so jammed together that you're never going to have a college that's near New York city

02:11:58 that is going to run New York city, that New York city is going to give them everything they want.

02:12:02 That sort of thing. So you get bigger schools, the further away from giant metropolitan areas

02:12:06 that you get. I think Andy staples, our friend did like a study a couple of years ago where he

02:12:11 was like, he, it was a map of obesity in America and it was just basically where everyone's good at

02:12:15 football. It was just like, there's just bigger people in the Midwest and the South and then

02:12:20 they're good at football. Wow. Yeah. So it was like, yeah, it was, it was kind of made sense.

02:12:24 You're just like, Oh, I guess this does have some good R and D research and development. Oh,

02:12:27 look at that. Yeah. All right. Last question I got for you and you can use it or you can not use

02:12:31 it whenever this gets filmed. Flip the interview on us. Yeah. I'm going to flip it on you. Um,

02:12:35 the, it's a topic it's relevant. I'm sure you guys have already talked about it, but, um,

02:12:40 which athletes have the best chance to translate to another professional sport?

02:12:45 I think it's golf. Well, excuse me. I think it's hockey to golf.

02:12:49 You think hockey players, baseball to golf, baseball to golf feels like hand eye coordination,

02:12:55 maybe a starting pitcher to golf because they get so much time off. Yeah. I'd be, yeah,

02:13:00 that's a good call. We did. We, we, the whole debate with the NFL NBA, like I don't think

02:13:04 anyone in the NFL could play in the NBA right now. Just cause I think people forget just how good

02:13:09 NBA players are. Um, like guys will shoot 30% from three and they're like, they're a bum. It's like,

02:13:14 watch them in a practice. They don't miss. Um, but yeah, hockey's out. No one can really play

02:13:19 hockey. Uh, unless you played it like growing up. I actually know, I know the answer. I mean, we,

02:13:25 if you guys decide if the bucks decided that they wanted to be the U S men's national team in soccer,

02:13:30 we'd win a world cup. You think so? Yeah. Easy. No problem. Pick any sport. They'd be our best

02:13:38 soccer player without a doubt. Give them four months. No problem. I do think, I do think

02:13:43 the football, the basketball debate was fascinating to hear different people's perspectives on,

02:13:49 because I think so many people associate athleticism with your measurable. I mean,

02:13:53 we're here in Chicago right now in the draft combines going on. Right. So many people

02:13:56 associate athleticism with how fast can you run? How I can you jump things of that nature. But like

02:14:02 I look at athleticism as like, well, how coordinated are you? How able are you to play

02:14:08 another sport? Right. And I think, you know, football players are the best athletes from a

02:14:13 sheer run straight and jump high because of their explosiveness. But I think the coordination you

02:14:19 need in basketball coupled with the athleticism and kind of putting it all together gives us a

02:14:24 chance to do other things like, you know, I don't know, I could be misspeaking here, but how many

02:14:29 football players do you know that can hit a golf ball? Like Steph Curry. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The

02:14:35 coordination is out of control. Yeah. But yeah, I had your guys back on that one. I appreciate

02:14:39 you having a race horse competing in sprinting. That'd be an easy one. Yeah. That's true. I think

02:14:46 the hockey to golf is a pretty good one. Baseball to golf. I think those are pretty, pretty

02:14:49 hockey to golf, like same motion. Yeah. And I also, I think actually a real answer would be if

02:14:55 you were to take NBA all stars, give them a year of training, they would probably be the best

02:14:59 volleyball team in the world. That's true. That's a very, we'd also dominate handball, which will

02:15:03 make the handball community upset. Yeah. But we've done that. That's a group called volleyball

02:15:07 would be. Yeah. Well, it would be really good. Well, I get Wimby up front. You made it seem

02:15:11 like my soccer answer wasn't a real answer. A big cat soccer. It was very real. Very real. Yeah.

02:15:15 I wanted on my fiance play soccer. So yeah, I mean, she probably knows like every Caitlin Clark

02:15:20 would take her job in a second. Imagine Yonason goal. I don't know. She's pretty fast. She's

02:15:24 pretty fast. All right. Well, Pat, thank you as always, man, you're the best. And we definitely

02:15:28 have to do a video of you striking out max and beating him. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready whenever

02:15:33 you guys let me know. Appreciate you having me on the show as always.

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02:16:29 Okay, let's finish up with fire fast of the week. Hank got anything for us Hank. Hank.

02:16:40 How are you doing Hank? I'm good. I'm rusted. I can tell. Yeah, Tuesday night.

02:16:46 Well, let's back up. Let's back up a little bit before Tuesday night because Tuesday.

02:16:51 We'll start with Tuesday morning. Woke up at 630, rise and grind, worked out eight o'clock.

02:16:57 Okay. What'd you do between 630 and eight? I made a protein shake. I don't think you actually

02:17:04 woke up at 630. My alarm went off at 630. Okay. Here's I go alarm. I usually snooze it twice,

02:17:11 try and get up before seven because I need to get out of the door by 730, but I need time to eat and

02:17:16 make something, get something in my stomach. A literal child. Yeah. What? Just get up when you

02:17:22 get up. I do. I like to snooze. How many times do you get out by, do you miss getting out by 730 a

02:17:29 lot? No. Okay. I make it seven and seven 30. So I have like 10 minutes to like stretch and stuff.

02:17:34 So if I get out seven 40, I'm still fine. Got it. But it takes you an hour and a half

02:17:39 or an hour. Excuse me. Takes you a full hour between when you wake up and when you leave

02:17:43 to get out of the house. I leave at seven 30, but you wake up at six 30. My alarm goes off.

02:17:48 It's do you not just hear my alarm goes off at six 30, but then he snooze it twice.

02:17:53 Try and get up before. So get up when your alarm goes off.

02:17:55 Snooze is just, I, I get it. Snooze. I have, I physically, my, I am my, I am the worst

02:18:04 procrastinator of all time. Physically. Like my body, when I had like the last second that I have

02:18:10 to get up is when I get up. Like I can't do it. I just can't do it. It doesn't matter. It didn't

02:18:15 matter in school. When I was in high school, I would wake up literally like two minutes before,

02:18:19 like either when my sister would drive me or like when I would get a ride to school.

02:18:23 I would wake up with one minute to go. So fast forward a little bit during the day on Tuesday,

02:18:29 we're in the studio getting ready to record part of my take. And Hank is asleep on the couch. He's

02:18:34 snoring a little bit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:18:38 I like that noise. What did I say? What did I say that was wrong? We recorded something and then,

02:18:42 and then we, we took a break. We're like, all right, let's take 40 minutes. Uh, and then we'll

02:18:47 do the rest of the show. I said to you, my trusted friend, colleague, brother in arms. I was like,

02:18:54 I'm going to take a nap. I feel myself falling asleep. I'm going to take a quick nap. It's not

02:18:58 like I just dozed off unexpectedly. No, Hey Hank, wait, I wasn't, I was saying that because like,

02:19:03 oh, you were asleep. I have no problem with you falling asleep. I told you what I was doing and

02:19:06 why I was doing it. Yeah. I have no problem with that. But what happened? We had 40 minutes. I

02:19:09 think announcing that means that you should be allowed to nap. Yeah. I have no, if you,

02:19:13 if you had an issue with it, you would have been like zero problem with it. Zero problem. But

02:19:17 then you wake up from the nap and it's what you said. And you were bragging about your nap. No,

02:19:22 no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Hank, cause you're going to lie. I'll say, I'll, I'll say

02:19:26 exactly the conversation. Would you say when you woke up, I woke up and I, in my sleep, I thought

02:19:30 I caught myself snoring. I heard a subconscious snore in my sleep and I woke up, Paul, Paul

02:19:36 Rable came in and I was just passed out. And he was like, they started whispering. I was like,

02:19:40 I'm up. I'm up. And then after PFT, I was like, PFT, you hear me snore once. And he's like,

02:19:46 ah, no, you snored like for 20 minutes. Yeah. Well, don't again. But I thought,

02:19:50 I thought in my head, I was like, again, I thought I caught myself snoring and stopped myself.

02:19:53 Yeah. This is not, this is not where the issue is. I'm fine. You sleep all you want. Announce a nap,

02:19:59 go for a nap. If we're not recording, go for it. Snore. That's fine. But then you also bragged

02:20:04 afterwards about how you got a quick 20 minutes in and it's the perfect nap. And if you get a 20

02:20:09 minute nap, that's all the human brain needs to sleep. And he won't be tired again for the rest

02:20:14 of the day. Oh, you said you only need 20 minutes of sleep. That's good. And that said that, no,

02:20:19 you said, I said, yeah, 20 minutes is perfect. I didn't get 20 minutes. I only got like 10.

02:20:23 Why were you woken up? Paul Rable. Oh, but Hank bragged about how he had 20 minutes of sleep.

02:20:28 No. And so that's going to be, that's going to cover him for the rest of the day.

02:20:31 Uh, yeah. PFT filmed me, posted it, which is just crazy again. Once again, it's like,

02:20:36 I thought it was a safe space sanctuary. This is fake news because you woke up and I showed you the

02:20:39 video before I posted it. And I was like, isn't this funny? And you laughed and we laughed and

02:20:43 I was like, yeah, I wasn't going to post it while you were asleep, but I'm going to post

02:20:45 now. And you're like, ha ha, that's cool. I said, that's cool. You were fine with what

02:21:04 was supposed to say when you say you're my boss. I can't, I can't, I can't stop you. I'm not going

02:21:09 to be like a soft little bitch and be like, don't post it. But it's more like an unspoken,

02:21:14 you've turned yourself into quite the victim and unspoken rule. Okay. It's all good. All right.

02:21:19 So you got the perfect amount of sleep. I got 10 minutes. I had gotten 20 minutes.

02:21:23 It would have been the perfect amount of sleep. And I probably would have been still awake to

02:21:26 this day. Uh, but then, and this isn't, there's really no excuse. There's no victim. I just,

02:21:34 I was tired. Uh, I knew I was tired. The Timberwolves game was on, started at nine 30,

02:21:41 ended up starting at like nine 45. I stayed up. I didn't, I was like, don't lay on the couch.

02:21:47 Don't sit on the couch. You're going to fall asleep. So I have like a little TV in my kitchen.

02:21:51 So I was sitting on just a kitchen table chair. You fell asleep on a kitchen table chair. Yes.

02:21:57 Cause I was like, I'm going to fall asleep by couch. And this is how I'll stay awake.

02:22:02 I mean, how were you sitting? I made it to the fourth quarter and woke up. Was your art,

02:22:05 were you on the kitchen? Like Island? No, I just woke up like this on like an actual,

02:22:10 like kitchen, like a stool. No, it was just a chair with the back. Like, okay. Like one of

02:22:15 those regular chair. Yeah. Holy shit. You were tired. But yeah, I woke up and I was fighting

02:22:21 myself and, and so there is nothing worse than your sleeping subconscious, which again,

02:22:27 has more control over me than it should. But I convinced myself and it never works.

02:22:33 As long as I've lived, like just close your eyes for a minute. Oh yeah. No chance. Like I was,

02:22:39 I was watching the game and I was like, Oh, commercial. Like, all right, no, I'll just close

02:22:43 my eyes for a minute. I turned my phone on high volume just in case I fall asleep. Even though I

02:22:49 knew I should have known like in hindsight, like the second you say I'll just close my eyes for a

02:22:54 second. You're falling asleep. Shit. So if we called you, you might've picked up. Oh no. So

02:22:59 but that's not a, that's not what goes really are false. Yeah. What goes through your head

02:23:02 when you do finally wake up? I woke up. The fact that you guys didn't call me made me feel like it

02:23:07 wasn't too bad. It wasn't just one tax that was just like ready to go. And then Hank question

02:23:13 mark. It wasn't like, you know, a bunch of texts and calls. Well, for people who obviously know

02:23:20 this, but what we've been doing deliberately is we've been trying to do the majority of the show

02:23:24 together. And then the last like 10 minutes, just whatever game just happened. So it really wasn't,

02:23:29 and it was a good show. I did go to sleep. I was like, that was at least the show we did

02:23:33 earlier was funny. It was very funny. And we, there wasn't a Boston team you had to talk about,

02:23:36 but yeah, I was, I did wake up and I was just, I mean, well, the Bruins, Oh shit. Fuck. I forgot

02:23:43 about that. Hey, PFD, did you hear this one? Which one did you hear about this one? Um, Hank slept

02:23:49 through part of my take episode, but in his defense, it was, uh, at 1230 in the morning

02:23:56 that we were taping. It's not like he slept through one that was like 1130 in the morning.

02:24:00 That would have been bad. Like during the normal business day at work hours, I that's a fireable

02:24:06 offense, but you did it at night, which is fine. Which is when most people sleep. Are you just a

02:24:09 sleep guy now? No, no. I sleep guy. I did say again, I would never make excuses. I take full,

02:24:16 full blame, full responsibility. You don't think I'm tired? No, I, yeah, of course. I'm always tired.

02:24:21 Yeah. I don't know how you don't just doze off sometimes. The first incident sleeping in too late

02:24:28 kickstarted my fitness documentary journey, which has me waking up early,

02:24:35 which then forced me to be tired and sleep late. So I just got to find that middle ground. But you

02:24:40 had a good, a fine. It's the first time you slept in, right? Yeah. I just was fucking wasted. So

02:24:45 Caleb never went to your house and said, let's go out. You would have been no sleep, no sleep. I

02:24:51 would have missed zero shows. Okay. And so what, what went through your head when you woke up?

02:24:55 Uh, I texted it. Yeah. Fuck. Fuck. That I, that I kind of assess the situation. I was like, all

02:25:04 right, my bad. Then I was awake and I was, I wanted, I was close, but I was like, don't,

02:25:08 don't be an asshole. I was close to like tweeting max and being like, where's the pod? Cause I was

02:25:13 like, I was awake at that point. I was like awake for like an hour. Um, and I was like, you know,

02:25:19 refreshing the podcast. Cause I wanted to listen to the damage. Um, cause max was like just a

02:25:25 light roasting, which could have meant like I got roasted for 30 minutes. Correct. So I didn't know,

02:25:31 and, but I didn't want to like, you know, when you're in that situation, you can't really push

02:25:35 the envelope and try and get answers. You just have to wait for it to happen. So when he said

02:25:38 just a light roasting, no big deal, I, I didn't know if he was like actually a light roasting or

02:25:44 actually like they spent the first 45 minutes like shitting on your life. So, so what changes

02:25:48 are we looking to make moving forward? I don't think any sleep guy. I think he's just a sleep

02:25:53 guy. Like we are coming in and they're like, all right, we, you know, you got the nerd,

02:25:58 you got the sweaty Italian, you got commanders fan, you got the sleep guy. You sleep guy. Now

02:26:03 you sleep guy. You got sleep problem. You did the sleep. Yeah. I mean, I have people,

02:26:08 I gotta, I gotta get better sleep. I think the snoring and the mouth breathing is bad.

02:26:12 Like it doesn't create good sleep. I need to get like a, here's an idea. I had, I did get some,

02:26:18 some tape, some, some mouth tape. Oh, nice. But I like need to make the podcast.

02:26:23 I need to make the sleep that I get count more than it does. Here's an idea. Sleep when you're

02:26:30 dead. That's a good idea. Or just have a kid. You should have a kid so you don't fall asleep.

02:26:36 I never sleep. I, I'm, I have to be up at six 45 every single morning no matter what.

02:26:42 Yeah. Not a bad idea. Me and you rising grinders. And my kids get to sleep. Oh, that's the worst

02:26:47 part about being a parent is that you don't sleep, but your kids, my kids sleep like 12 hours a

02:26:53 night. Fucking rocks for them. They just sleep and they still wake up and they're like, let's go.

02:27:01 Yeah. I just can't let the, I'm, I apologize. It was, it was a bad look on my part, but I just

02:27:07 can't let the morning one happen. There were a lot of people that said like, that was a really good

02:27:11 show, especially the first 15 minutes of it. So that was good. Yeah. That's great. That's all I

02:27:16 care about at the end of the day. That's true. That's fine. Your team guy, content machine,

02:27:19 PFT. So I was going to have a sleep related fire fest as well, but I'm not going to do that

02:27:24 because I think Hank just absolutely trumps me on that. My fire fest is that I think Blake is now

02:27:29 officially off stairs. I think that, so in his recovery, I have to carry him up and down steps.

02:27:37 The good news is you don't have a lot of stairs in your house. I've got a lot of stairs in my house.

02:27:40 And so he, he obviously like can't put too much pressure on his elbows. He's just going

02:27:45 outside to use the bathroom back to his crate basically. But, uh, he's gotten addicted now.

02:27:50 He's learned that when he gets to the steps, he just stops and looks at me. And then daddy comes

02:27:56 in, scoops them up, takes him up and down the steps. The worst news is he's still growing.

02:28:02 And so he's going to end up being probably like 120 pounds and that's a haul. But I feel like

02:28:08 the habits that I'm teaching him right now, he's just going to retain those. You're going to get

02:28:12 stronger. I'm going to get strong. I'm going to get jacked up, probably be able to dunk with that,

02:28:16 all that leg strength that I'm building up. But he's a, yeah, he's learned that if he just stops

02:28:20 and looks at me, then I'm going to come over, pick him up and he doesn't have to do stairs.

02:28:24 And I don't blame him because if there's somebody, if there was a big, strong man that lived in my

02:28:28 house that just picked me up and carried me up and down the steps, I'm all in on that. I'm like,

02:28:32 yeah, why I'm not, I'm not going back to using my legs like a sucker. So I think that for probably

02:28:36 at least it's going to be a tough habit to break probably next six months to a year.

02:28:41 Uh, I'm just going to be Blake's elevator, which is tough. It's okay. How about those ramp things?

02:28:46 Oh, like the ones that, um, that old ladies use, get them a chair and then hit the button. And it

02:28:51 just, yeah, it's like the booger mobile, but for steps, that's not a bad idea. I might do that.

02:28:58 Be the alpha in your house. Yeah. Yeah. You need me to take you up and down these steps. Don't you?

02:29:01 Yeah, I got it. So that's my fire fest is why I have two. One is a back on hair dye.

02:29:07 Oh, you are? Yeah. I got my haircut yesterday and it was, I look like Pauly Walnuts. It could

02:29:12 be worse. So be Nikki smokes. I still have my hair dyed up. Yeah, I did. I got to probably do another

02:29:17 paint paint job just to sign the side. It's these sides. It's crazy how white I am now.

02:29:24 You should do the Pauly Walnuts actual hair dye. I just, the silver wings.

02:29:29 It looks sick. Yeah. Maybe that would look sick. Maybe for Mount, maybe for Mount Rushmore season.

02:29:36 When we do bets, maybe it's personal bets and I could do that. Cause that would look ridiculous,

02:29:40 but I would do, it would look awesome. Like if we did, if we threw soul patches out there and I did

02:29:44 that for two weeks, I'd consider doing it. I would look awesome. You know what? I'll throw my hair

02:29:49 into if I lose Mount Rushmore season, I'll get a perm. Oh, okay. That's a good idea. But my other,

02:29:55 my other one is speaking of being the alpha in your household. Um, I, I've now gotten to the

02:30:01 point where, uh, my son is like, you're really strong. Like he says that to me. He's like,

02:30:05 you're really strong. I'm like, yeah, I know. Like I pick them up and it was really strong.

02:30:08 So last night I was carrying him to bed. He's like, you're really strong. I was like, I'm the

02:30:11 strongest in this house. He's like, you're not stronger than a monster. And I was like, fuck,

02:30:15 that's a good point. And then, so I could deal with that monster. Fine. Like you want to go,

02:30:20 I want to go head to head against a monster. That's fine. He then said, uh, well, and he named

02:30:27 a kid in his class and he's like his dad's stronger than you. Oh. So, and I was like,

02:30:32 and I know who he's talking about. Cause I've met this guy's dad. He is like probably four inches

02:30:38 taller than me. He's a big guy, but I like, what the fuck? He just said that another kid's son or

02:30:45 dad is stronger than me. You got to fight that guy. I don't know what I got to do, but that was

02:30:50 the most emasculating thing. I got to do some kind of feats of strength in front of my kids.

02:30:54 I need to just maybe bring a, like a barbell into the kitchen and be like, you guys want to keep

02:30:59 talking shit. I'll fucking show you. I think you've got to punch this guy in the face. I mean,

02:31:04 it's rivaled that he's a really nice guy. I met him. He is taller than me, but to be,

02:31:08 to just blatantly just say, Oh yeah, X's dad is stronger than you in my own house.

02:31:13 That cut me deep. It cut me deep. It's very funny to think that your kid's going to school

02:31:19 and then he's going up to other kids and be like, your dad could beat up my dad. Yeah.

02:31:23 That's what's happening. Yeah. That's tough. So I don't know what I got to do. Um, but I got to,

02:31:28 I got to figure out something cause I got, I got to, I got to show that I'm the strongest,

02:31:32 maybe a rough and rowdy. Who could you beat up here? This guy's this, this kid, this other

02:31:38 five-year-old's dad challenged him to rough and rowdy. Yeah. I think that's the only way

02:31:41 the most confusing rough and rowdy ever are, uh, the drummer that fills in for Frankie sometimes

02:31:46 Dom with pup punk, by the way, tickets on sale, May 31st, Chicago, love that. Joe's on weed.

02:31:51 Um, the guy that fills in for him, he's a, a boy tie fighter. He just started

02:31:55 and he brought his son to his first professional or first like organized fight. That's, that's

02:32:01 gotta be weird to have your son in the audience watching his dad fight and his son's like four

02:32:05 years old. Oh, what if I did it? What if I staged a fight? That's what you do. I need to stage a

02:32:11 fight and beat the fuck out of max. Yeah. Okay. All right. We'll do that. I'm going to stage a

02:32:18 fight and just be like, look how strong I am. I beat the fuck out of this guy. Have max try

02:32:22 to break into your house to steal your cheese and then you just pummel him and then you make him

02:32:27 puke and then he poops everywhere. This is good. This is good. All right. I got some solutions.

02:32:31 Uh, Jake, you want to finish this off? Yeah, I'll finish this off. Uh,

02:32:34 I've just been farting a lot recently. I don't know what it is. I haven't really

02:32:39 anything out of the ordinary, but it's been extra gassy. Jake Farch, um, what they're calling you.

02:32:45 Yeah. Farts are fun. Yeah. But okay. I want to say this in a respectful way.

02:32:50 Say whatever you want. Think about how to say respectfully, Jake. I,

02:32:53 I also mean no disrespect. Um, a lot of people think that their farts smell good. You strike

02:32:58 me as a guy that thinks his own farts are bad. Yeah, I agree. You don't like your own farts.

02:33:04 I mean, like, I'm not scared of them. Like if you're by yourself in your apartment and you got

02:33:08 a lethal fart, like that, that excites me. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The little sniff. Yeah. The

02:33:15 ones that hit like right after you fart, you get the smell instantly. Oh dude. Yeah. Stink up your

02:33:22 own car and you're like this fucking rocks. Yeah. A lot of people save their farts for their car

02:33:25 because they don't want to fart in public wherever they're at. I saved my farts for my car because I

02:33:29 like farting in my car. Put the heat on. Yeah. Hot box yourself. All right. I'm, you know what? I'm

02:33:34 not going to say the disrespectful. I don't care. I was going to say, I put you in the category of

02:33:38 chicks. You shouldn't fart. Jake doesn't, you know, I understand, but like something about you

02:33:46 farting just bothers me. Um, but Jake, you know what? It's not, it's not, it's not a you problem.

02:33:50 It's a me problem. So I apologize. Yeah, yeah, right. Like he, yeah. Like I, I feel like when

02:33:56 you fart, you're like, you, you say, oops, no, I have some potential, but you know what, Jake?

02:34:01 Like the most noble thing that you can choose to do is to be a homemaker of a podcast. And I'm glad

02:34:06 that you're filling that role. Yes. That's, that's really valuable. So thank you. Thank you. Oh man.

02:34:12 So what have you been doing? You just been eating like shit? No, I've just been Jake.

02:34:16 That's also because you don't eat, you eat well. So I guess also when you eat super clean,

02:34:20 you actually, yeah, it actually gets worse. Right? Right. Yeah. Uh, okay. Good show boys. Uh,

02:34:28 let's do some numbers. Max is out. So I will do 20, eight, 46, 18, three 99 pug 21 pug by the way,

02:34:43 three and Oh, the pugs, the pugs, pugs are a wagon, but we got some, the best teams coming up.

02:34:48 So, Oh no. Pug. Do we have to have a conversation about Mr. Pear? Oh, he sucks. Mr. Pear is ice

02:34:55 cold. He sucks. And guess what? Ever? Honestly, it was, it was the AI memes, memes, mush it with AI.

02:35:03 I don't think he's one sentence and memes. Also, I don't know what it is. It's like, he's never

02:35:06 watched sports before he starts bragging about Mr. Pear. Like I, there was a game. What was it?

02:35:12 Maybe it was game four. The Mavs were up 10 in the first quarter. And he's like, see Mr. Pear.

02:35:17 It's like, dude, it's the NBA. It's a 10 point lead in the first quarter. I don't blame Mr. Pear.

02:35:22 I blame memes. I blame memes. 100% of the blame is on me. You're spoiling them.

02:35:26 Memes. Max touched him. Oh, okay. That's fair. I'll take that.

02:35:34 Uh, all right. What were the numbers again? Everyone say it again. 28, 3, 46, 18,

02:35:41 21. If I got, if I got 20, Max would not believe us. Right?

02:35:46 You won't, you won't believe it. Oh, 19. 19. Love you guys.

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