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00:00But I wanted to start with cricket because today's cricket environment is very sad.
00:06The way we are playing cricket. We have ruined this cricket.
00:10And if the selectors themselves are selected, then what cricket will they play?
00:15Yes, everyone expects that this is also a Pakistani election that if you lose in 45, you will win in 47.
00:21It doesn't happen like that. You have to play cricket properly.
00:25You have to select the team properly. You have to get out of adhocism.
00:29And this is a sad thing. Every Pakistani child gets involved in this game.
00:33And then it's okay. Losing is not a problem.
00:36The boys are coming.
00:37The boys are coming.
00:38They will know that they are playing at their potential.
00:39There is a team. There is a spirit.
00:41They didn't give up six balls ago.
00:44You saw it, didn't you?
00:45Their body language was telling you that it's over.
00:49So these things are not right.
00:50Yesterday I was talking to a cricketer and he said that these are cowards.
00:53You have to play cricket with courage.
00:55You can see the courage. You know that you are climbing and playing.
00:58But in the end, Naseem did something.
01:00Why wasn't he doing middle order earlier?
01:03Now you see what the problem is.
01:04The problem is that when you run everything on adhocism.
01:07The time when there was Sarfaraz, let's continue it for a year or two.
01:10Let's keep it in all three formats.
01:12Babar could have become a great captain today.
01:14Now you have put a load on him when he was the number one cricketer in the world.
01:19He was a batsman.
01:20You put a captain on him.
01:21That batsman also started getting bad.
01:24He didn't become a captain at that time.
01:25He didn't learn.
01:28There is so much pressure on him that what should he do?
01:30So this is a very unfair thing.
01:33Mizba could have played for another year in all three formats.
01:36So the team would have been stable.
01:38I am talking about the game.
01:40I am not talking about his management.
01:43I think he was plus 40 when he retired.
01:46Sir, when the team was in the 10th place.
01:49Sir, our team was in the same position.
01:51Oh no, no.
01:52It was a good team.
01:53Pakistan has always passed through a delicate phase.
01:56Pakistan has always passed through a delicate phase.
02:00This problem has always been there in Pakistan's batting.
02:03Even when there were big players.
02:05But despite this, the potential and teamwork of the Pakistani team didn't break.
02:09If one team lost, they used to come back in the second.
02:11And they used to come back in a great way.
02:14They used to bounce back.
02:16It used to happen to us that the anger of one match would be fulfilled in the other.
02:19But now this has become unfair with Pakistan and with the people of Pakistan.
02:23If you get a good message of hope in the disappointment of the people of Pakistan,
02:25then you have made a mistake in that too.
02:27Injustice is always with the Pakistanis.
02:29There has been a lot of injustice in the last two years.
02:31You are the opposition.
02:33I will go to the Jamaat-e-Islami later.
02:35What is your political party?
02:37How many seats are there?
02:38Why are there?
02:39How are they?
02:40First, let's start.
02:41Alliances are being formed.
02:42One alliance has seen Tariq-e-Insaf.
02:44There is also Mr. Chakzai in that.
02:46There is also Mr. Mehngal.
02:47They are also putting Mr. Gumulana.
02:49They are trying to make him go around.
02:52Where is the Jamaat-e-Islami?
02:54The Jamaat-e-Islami is doing opposition.
02:56And the Jamaat-e-Islami is clearly standing with the public and talking about principles.
03:01And the principle is that elections should be held on Form 45.
03:03Now see, there is no clarity in the alliances that are being formed.
03:07Among them, the closeness is increasing.
03:09So one party says that re-election should be held.
03:13So re-election is a very big thing.
03:16It is an exercise.
03:18When you have a legal document
03:21on which everyone agrees that Form 45 cannot be wrong.
03:24There are signs of polling agents on it.
03:26There is a sign of the presiding officer.
03:28There is a stamp on it.
03:29There is a identification card number written on it.
03:30This is the only document that legitimizes the 2024 elections in Pakistan.
03:35It can be done.
03:36It is not done yet.
03:37It is.
03:38It is not done yet.
03:39It is a legitimate election.
03:40It is not done yet.
03:41It is a legitimate election.
03:42When it is present, then why are you going towards a new election for another deal?
03:46Why a deal?
03:47This is what happens.
03:48What happens in politics in Pakistan?
03:49Look, it is very important that what people are complaining about at the moment.
03:52If PTI is complaining that there is a deal, then it is fine.
03:55There is a deal.
03:56It should be done on Form 45.
03:57In an interview, you said that some Jamaats are complaining.
04:01Why didn't you make them win?
04:03It seems so, right?
04:04Which Jamaats are these?
04:06Look, you should understand some things.
04:08They are Jamaats.
04:09Mr. Mulana will understand that you are pointing at them.
04:12Look, I don't point at them.
04:13The matter is simple.
04:15The election took place.
04:16You are talking about Mr. Mulana.
04:18You should not answer this.
04:20I am telling you.
04:21When the regime changed, who was standing where at that time?
04:25At that time, you didn't know what the establishment was doing.
04:28You were pushing the running system as a part of it.
04:31And you were saying that this is our legal right.
04:33So, Sindh House was a legal right.
04:35People were being bought and sold there.
04:37So, you didn't know.
04:38They were all small companies.
04:39So, you included all of them.
04:41You ruined a running system.
04:43Then what did you do after that?
04:45You formed a government.
04:48You couldn't deliver in that government.
04:50Then what did you do after that?
04:51You didn't get confidence again.
04:53Now, what happened is that they won Noon League, MQM and People's Party in Form 47.
04:59MQM became zero.
05:00They gave seats to them.
05:02People's Party…
05:03I will come to the election.
05:04You are right.
05:05So, you are saying that because three parties were rewarded,
05:08one party was not rewarded.
05:10Because of this…
05:11Whoever you are talking about, ask everyone from these parties
05:14what their complaint is.
05:16If there is a complaint of bribery in an election,
05:18then there is a complaint of bribery.
05:19So, you are saying that restoring the constitution is their campaign.
05:22Restoring the constitution according to the constitution.
05:24No, I have no problem with that campaign.
05:26But they are there and we are going there.
05:28They are also coming to us.
05:30We are doing their seminars.
05:31Because Maulana is not a part of it.
05:32You could have gone with the rest.
05:33You have gone.
05:34I can understand grievances from Maulana.
05:36No, there are no grievances from Maulana.
05:38I mean, grievances…
05:39By the way, you are running an election.
05:40You are running a government.
05:41From any party…
05:42Look, we also fought the election against PTI.
05:45And we won the local elections by defeating PTI.
05:47In Karachi.
05:48You are aware of this.
05:50And in the general election,
05:52we gave the vote to either PTI or Jamaat-e-Islami.
05:55And together,
05:57in the tribunals,
05:59we exchanged notes with each other.
06:02And you know,
06:03PTI's organizational position is not that good.
06:06And yours is very good.
06:08No, whatever it is.
06:09I think…
06:10Everyone knows PTI's organizational position.
06:12We could have facilitated them.
06:14And on the basis of merit.
06:15Anyone could have won.
06:16But Maulana won.
06:17Noon League won.
06:18PP won.
06:19They won in Form 45.
06:20It's a simple matter.
06:21So, we facilitated this.
06:22But the thing is,
06:23if we say on the basis of
06:25finishing the entire election exercise
06:27and having a new election,
06:28why didn't I win?
06:29And the trust that was given to us,
06:31why didn't it happen according to that?
06:32And we gave it to Noon,
06:33and to MQM,
06:34and to PP.
06:35So, I don't think this is appropriate.
06:37But this is not Mr. Tariq Khan's view.
06:39Mr. Tariq Khan doesn't say that
06:41we had a trust deal.
06:44You tell Maulana,
06:45I understand that he will say,
06:47I feel left out.
06:49Why did you do this to me?
06:51You rewarded everyone else.
06:53If you say this,
06:54I can understand it.
06:55Mr. Tariq Khan,
06:56if you see,
06:57for the past two years,
06:58it was already clear
06:59that there should have been
07:00Punjab and KP elections.
07:01I will come to you on this as well.
07:03The way this country was run
07:05after the trust deal,
07:07what is your view on that?
07:09But now they say,
07:10sir, they want us to return our seats
07:12according to Form 45.
07:14Both have the same view.
07:15So, what is your problem with them?
07:17The problem with PTI is that
07:19I am discussing PTI more
07:21because Mr. Khan is in jail
07:23and he has been wronged.
07:25He has been targeted.
07:27We have different parties.
07:29We have different structures.
07:31We fight elections in different ways.
07:33Our style is different.
07:35Our things are different.
07:37But if we agree on one thing,
07:39it is that the constitution should be
07:41in place and the elections should be correct.
07:43We have worked on this together.
07:45We are still working on it.
07:47Practically, I have left my seat.
07:49What else can I do?
07:51Do you want to die?
07:53I have left my seat.
07:55Now it is the PTI's responsibility
07:57as to where they are standing.
07:59But I want to understand
08:01that the PTI should be in place
08:03and the elections should be correct.
08:05I have left my seat.
08:07Now it is the PTI's responsibility
08:09as to where they are standing.