Join a panel of expert guests as they dissect the opening weekend of Euro 2024. Should England fans be happy after edging past Serbia? And can Germany or Spain go all the way after big wins?
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00:00I think Germany go through and will probably face Portugal in the semis maybe and then
00:04maybe it's an England-Germany final. I think that's what I want, it's what quite a few
00:07other people wanted. Goodness me, there's no fear factor there with them I think.
00:11They're ready to go, they're ready to attack, they control possession, some of the balls
00:15that they produce, some of the clinical finishing, they are going to be hard to stop, like I say,
00:19especially on home term. I just know any Scottish fans watching will be fuming at not only the 5-1
00:25defeat but then having to listen to some English panellists talk about England facing Germany in
00:29the final already. But you know, why not get ahead of ourselves, 1-0 win over Serbia surely.
00:35We're winning it, come on, it's coming home, come on guys.
00:38Oh God, don't start that, you'll make Luka Modric upset again.
00:47Hello, I'm Matthew Gregory and welcome to We Can Be Euros. Today we're going to take
00:50a close look at England's 1-0 win over Serbia. Should the fans be happy to get off the mark
00:55with a victory or worried by a slightly dodgy second half showing? We'll also check in with
00:59some of the other pre-tournament favourites, most of whom got off the mark with a win,
01:02and see who looks more dangerous so far. To help me discuss all the big talking points
01:07from the opening weekend of Euro 2024, I'm joined as always by an expert panel.
01:11The Express and Stars digital sports editor Nathan Julia is here,
01:14as is North East football reporter Mark Carruthers. Nathan, I'll come to you first.
01:19What's your view on England's performance? Because it's always good to get off the mark
01:22with a win, but it was pretty stodgy in the second half, wasn't it?
01:26Yeah, it was. Look, I think overall it was pretty pleasing. I thought that,
01:32especially in that first half, England were excellent. Yes, they sat back in that second
01:36half. They invited pressure. We all got a bit of deja vu. We thought the equaliser was going to come,
01:41but I'm going to take the positive road. I'm going to say that a win's a win. I thought there
01:47were some excellent performances out there. Of course, we're going to talk about Jude Bellingham.
01:50I thought Saka's first half was superb as well. And let's be honest, it should have been 2-0.
01:55Kane's got to finish that goal. If that's 2-0, then it's game over. But after that,
01:59a bit of nervousness took hold. But overall, three points. I think Gareth will be pretty
02:06pleased overall. Yes, there's issues there, but you don't want to peak too early. And I think that
02:10three points on the board with a couple of games to go, I think England and I think Gareth would
02:14have taken that at the start of the game. Yeah, I think, Mark, I'll bring you in here.
02:18You can definitely worry a bit too much about the performance in the first game. I mean,
02:21you think about the last World Cup, of course, Argentina won the whole thing and they started
02:25off losing to Saudi Arabia. But do you think there's enough, in terms of the way the second
02:30half panned out, do you think there are reasons to be concerned for England's chances of winning
02:34the tournament? I don't think that 90 minutes told us anything we didn't already know about
02:38this England side. I think we know there is still a selection issue in midfield. Did Trent really do
02:43enough to convince that that can be his role going forward? Kieran Trippier looked awkward at
02:49left back despite not really being troubled. We know that was an issue. The one big plus for me
02:55was the performance of Mark Gahy and John Stones at the heart of the defence. I thought both looked
03:00very good, even when there was a little bit of pressure. Most of all, we shouldn't forget Jordan
03:04Pickford's probably made one save in the whole game. One, what I'd call a proper save from
03:09Vlaovic in the second half. England were the first team to keep a clean sheet at the tournament,
03:14which is a huge plus given the concerns of the defence. Yes, there's room for improvement.
03:19I think that goes without question. But overall, let's be honest, a win, a clean sheet and
03:26we know what we need to do in the next two games to get through. I can see England
03:30doing that quite comfortably. Yes, room for concern, room for improvement, but overall, just be
03:35satisfied, I think. What's your thoughts, Mark, on the defence? Because you mentioned
03:40Gahy played really well. I agree with that. He was absolutely superb. And as you say, even though
03:45Serbia had a lot of possession in the second half, a lot of territory, they didn't really
03:48create all that much. Do you think from a strictly defensive perspective, that was the kind of
03:52performance that was actually really encouraging in that way because it was one of the big concerns?
03:56And maybe this is just sort of the kind of showing which made it look as if maybe we don't need to
04:00be quite so worried about that? Or are you still a little bit worried about the make-up of the
04:05back four going forward? Yes, I think for me, and I say this as someone who works up here in
04:11the North East, I think the sooner Luke Shaw is fully fit, the better, just to give more balance
04:15to that back four, that left back. I love Kieran Trippier. I think the impact he's made at club
04:20level with Newcastle has been probably understated over the last two and a half years. But I just
04:26think for the natural balance of that, that left side, we need Luke Shaw fit. Look, there'll be
04:31bigger tests for Gehi and Stones, but all of the narrative and the build-up to the game spoke of,
04:37you know, the physical presence of Serbia, the Dmitrovic, Vlaovic, you know, getting the crosses
04:41in the box. And let's be honest, Stones and Gehi, despite Gehi not being the biggest defender,
04:47they dealt with it admirably. And I think it was a real positive. One thing I think we should point
04:51out is the performance of Declan Rice in front of the back four as well. I thought he probably
04:55hasn't got the credit he deserves because of what else was going on around him in midfield,
05:00with Jude Burnham taking the plaudits. But I thought Declan Rice put in a masterclass last
05:04night of discipline, of control, of reading the game, reading the tempo. He will be, I think,
05:12alongside Bellingham England's biggest player at this tournament. Yeah, I completely agree. I thought
05:17yeah, for all that, Bellingham and Gehi sort of got most of the the plaudits, you know,
05:21if you look in social media and from journalists and so on. But Declan Rice was absolutely
05:25brilliant, I thought. Nathan, I'll bring you back in because I wanted to ask about Phil Foden. Now,
05:30he's drawn quite a lot of criticism for his performance. It struck me that he was asked to
05:35play a much more withdrawn, sort of much more central role than perhaps we were expecting.
05:39In the first half, when England were playing well, he was dropping back into midfield quite
05:42a lot, giving a bit of freedom to Bellingham, to Trent Alexander-Arnold. He spent a lot of
05:46time on the right wing, sort of when things were going well in the first half. In the second half,
05:50as well, he was dropping back a lot, sort of really sort of getting into the deeper areas
05:54with the midfield. Do you think this was a case of a player who was doing the job he was asked to do?
05:58Or do we need to be a bit concerned that Foden wasn't really able to sort of stamp his authority
06:03on the attack a little bit more? Yeah, I think you could tell at the end of the game that he looks
06:07as frustrated as I think everybody else. I mean, he's been magnificent this season. He's been
06:12superb. And I don't think the game got to him. Obviously, we're disappointing it's Iceland as
06:17well. But the problem is, is you've got one of the best sixes in the world in Declan Rice,
06:22one of the best eights in the world in Jude Bellingham, and one of the best tens in the
06:24world in Phil Foden. And yet two of the three are playing out of position really in this team. Yes,
06:29it's fluid, but you're not going to tell Jude Bellingham to stay to a rigid eight. He hasn't
06:33done that for Real Madrid. So you could see that he just took over the show last night. And I think
06:37Foden almost just got, I'm not going to say shown up at all, but Bellingham was everywhere. He was
06:43following the ball. He was, you know, he was up, he was down, he wanted the ball and he could just
06:47tell that he was the focal point last night. And I think that just had a detrimental effect to think
06:53on Foden. He had to track back a little bit. Like you say, they probably deeper than he wanted to.
06:58I think we'll see Phil Foden have some fantastic games in this tournament. I wouldn't be too
07:02concerned, but they'll look at it. The analysis guys are all there. They'll make sure that they,
07:07they take time. They'll see what was good. What was bad. It wasn't all bad for Phil Foden,
07:11by the way. I thought he kept possession pretty well overall, but yes, he didn't have the impact
07:15in the game that he wanted to, but there will be times in this game. I mean, this front five,
07:19front six of England, I've got so absolutely superb. So there will be times when, you know,
07:24one or two have to take a back seat. And unfortunately that was Phil Foden last night.
07:29He did look slightly frustrated, but like I say, especially the way the game went in that second
07:34half, Phil Foden is not really going to be your go-to player there. But I thought he did fine,
07:40but you definitely want more from, from one of your best players. I mean, this was one of the
07:43best players in the tournament, in the premier league, sorry, last season, one of the very best.
07:47So you want to see him in England. I don't think being around these certain players stopped him
07:53from having a great game because he's playing in Manchester city. He's playing with world-class
07:57players every single week, every single, you know, twice playing two or three, two or three games a
08:02week and he still stands out. So yeah, hopefully Gareth gets the best out of him, but it wasn't
08:06his best display, but I'm not too concerned. He's starting, he's starting on Thursdays and
08:10two. Let's be honest. I do. Yeah, you would have thought so. That's England's next game against
08:16Denmark on Thursday, second group game. Mark, I was going to mention also Trent Alexander-Arnold,
08:21he had a really interesting game. I've not been entirely convinced in the buildup to this
08:25tournament about the idea of Alexander-Arnold as a midfielder, not because he doesn't have
08:29the qualities to be a great midfielder, but simply because he hasn't played there very much. I think
08:33this was the eighth time he's played in midfield, possibly the seventh time for England, very rarely
08:37used there by Jurgen Klopp. How do you think he got on? I think I would fall back on the analysis
08:44of Cesc Fabregas after the game last night on BBC, where he said that he thought it was a mixed
08:49performance. There were good aspects to the game. There were, there were some that you could see
08:53there's clear signs of a struggle in midfield at times. There was one crossfield pass to Kieran
08:59Trippier that will go down as one of the passes of the first weekend of the tournament. But I also
09:04thought there were times when he just looked as if the game was going on around him rather than
09:08than him being involved in it. Now, there was a really interesting analysis from Fabregas where
09:13he spoke about mentality on the ball, bravery on the ball, and England's, you know, what we call
09:18probably the better players didn't really show that at times in the second half. There was a
09:21couple of times I think Phil Foden, going back to him, where he just launched the ball 50 yards
09:25forward with no one around just to try and clear the danger instead of, you know, if he does that
09:30at Man City, let's be honest, I think we know what Pep Guardiola's reaction to that would be.
09:35I think that's a great point. And I think Alexander-Arnold is someone who we need to get on
09:40the ball more. We need him to dictate the pace of the game as he did in the first half at times.
09:44But for me, it just wasn't, I mean, obviously it wasn't a 90 minute performance because he came off
09:49after 69 minutes, but it wasn't a complete performance that we won from him. I still feel
09:53he's learning in the role at the highest level in international football. I wouldn't be shocked if
09:59Conor Gallagher or Bellingham dropped a little bit deeper and there's a little bit of switch
10:03around for the Denmark game. It was just mixed. I think that's the best way to put it.
10:07Yeah. Yeah. Nathan, I think, you know, Conor Gallagher obviously came on for Alexander-Arnold
10:12and perhaps showed a little bit more energy, a little bit more now as he was able to sort of,
10:16you know, close down players, win a couple of fouls, get, you know, make a couple of turnovers.
10:21Do you think that's a direction that Southgate should be going for the rest of the tournament?
10:24Maybe playing somebody who's more of a natural midfielder like Conor Gallagher, maybe Kobi Mainou
10:28or Adam Wharton in that position? Yeah, I think Wharton and Mainou, I think those are the two guys
10:32who you mentioned there. Gallagher just, they needed someone like Gallagher, I think, to come
10:37on at that stage. We saw early on, I think, Trent lose the ball with his back to goal and almost,
10:43you know, almost was a counter-attack and that was a warning sign, but I thought he got better
10:47in the game. At the same time, you know, with all due respect, when you're getting into the
10:52quarter semis and finally playing against better opposition, I'm not sure whether Trent Alexander-Arnold
10:56will be starting the game. I think you're going to be looking at Conor Gallagher to start. You want
11:01someone who's played there week in, week out and I think that Gallagher's probably the right man.
11:04I think we'll get the job when it really comes to a bigger test. I do have issues though in this
11:11England side and like I say, I know we'll take the three points and, you know, Mark discussed about
11:15Trippier and about Luke Shaw. I do think for me that too many people are having, you know,
11:21hoping for Luke Shaw to come back and be the kind of guy that we expect him to be, but he hasn't
11:25played a game since February the 18th, remember? I mean, you know, then you expect him to come
11:29back into the side and play two games every four days against some of the best sides in world
11:33football. I'm not sure whether that's going to happen or not. I think you're going to see
11:36Trippier probably play the majority of the games just because I don't think Shaw will be able to
11:42to start two games in three or four days. So that'll be very,
11:45very interesting when it comes to fruition, hopefully, if they get through the group.
11:48Okay, elsewhere in Group C, Slovenia drew 1-1 with Denmark. Those, of course, are England's
12:12next two opponents. Mark, I know you watched that game. What were your thoughts on the way
12:16they played? Do England need to be worried about either team? Is there anything they should be
12:19wary of? I didn't. This could come back and hit me, couldn't it? But I didn't see anything to
12:25be overly concerned about. Kind of similar opposition to what England faced against
12:30Serbia. There were threats, but nothing that I would get too concerned about. You know,
12:34I'd be more worried about facing a France or a Germany or Netherlands or someone like that,
12:38rather than what I saw yesterday. But I think we can't go on much further without,
12:43you know, acknowledging the Christian Eriksen moment, when you think of what happened on his
12:46last appearance at the Euros. Apologies if I just interrupted your next question there, Matthew.
12:53Just a brilliant moment, the sort of moment we live for in football, isn't it? The moments we
12:57love, where stories are written for us as journalists, where, you know, you think of
13:02the scenes that we saw four years ago, or three years ago, sorry, to what we witnessed yesterday,
13:07seeing him score. And especially on the back of what I think he would consider to be an
13:11underwhelming season with Manchester United. It was great to see him back. I thought the Danes
13:15were very good for large parts of the game. You know, the likes of Hoyland and Hulman from
13:20Sporten, I think very, very good players that will trouble good sides. But when you look at Slovenia
13:27getting back into the game, fully deserved a draw. I thought they were very good second half. Clearly
13:30there were words said at halftime from the manager. And yeah, there'll be awkward opponents
13:35for England, but I would expect England to get what they need to get through.
13:39Yeah, I mean, it's just amazing to see Ericsson sort of back playing in another Euros after what
13:43happens. I mean, I was one of many people who watched that live a few years ago, and just
13:48a really awful moment. And it's just so heartwarming to see him sort of, you know, back in the game and
13:53back playing well. And he's still so central to the way Denmark play. You know, the whole
13:57attack is really built around his talent and his qualities. And yeah, just lovely to see him get a
14:01goal. And we'll see how he gets on against England. I mean, you mentioned being a bit more worried
14:07about teams like France and Germany. We're obviously going to discuss a few of the other
14:11big name teams that have got off the mark this weekend. But let's start with Germany,
14:14if only to get the pain of any Scottish viewers out of the way and done with.
14:18They look really impressive, didn't they, Nathan? That's a pretty ominous performance from the hosts.
14:22Oh, they were superb, weren't they? Obviously, they've gone through a bit of a little German
14:27football, but I think this is a young, exciting squad. And you could just see some of the quality
14:32and talent. I mean, even before that Scottish sending off, which by the way, was the correct
14:36decision right on halftime and then making it 3-0 with the penalty. I mean, Scotland were
14:41all over the place, but I think it was mainly due to Germany's dominance. Scotland were poor
14:46on the day, so it's difficult to judge really, you know, how good Germany were because Scotland
14:51were so, so passive. You know, I really expect them to really go for it in those first 10, 15
14:57minutes and at least put some pressure on and maybe have it pretty tight going into the second
15:01half. But yeah, they were just blown away. I thought Musiala was superb and they're a pleasure
15:05to watch. They're going to be hard to beat, I think, on their home soil. And you know,
15:09if England do end up playing them in the final, I mean, goodness me, that'll be an absolutely superb
15:14contest. I can't see either of these teams meeting until the final, expecting them to win their
15:18group. I expected them to go through. I predicted them into the final. I think Germany go through
15:22and we'll probably face Portugal in the semis maybe. And then maybe it's an England-Germany
15:26final. I think that's what I want. That's what quite a few other people wanted. Goodness me.
15:30There's no fear factor there with them, I think. They're ready to go. They're ready to attack.
15:34Their control possession, some of the balls that they produce, some of the clinical finishing,
15:38they are going to be hard to stop, like I say, especially on home term.
15:42I just know any Scottish fans watching will be fuming at not only the 5-1 defeat,
15:47but then having to listen to some English panellists talk about England facing Germany
15:50in the final already. But, you know, why not get ahead of ourselves? You know,
15:55a 1-0 win over Serbia, surely we're winning it.
15:57Come on, it's coming home. Come on, guys.
16:00Don't start that. You'll make Luka Modric upset again.
16:04Speaking of which, what a lovely little segue there into Spain 3, Croatia 0.
16:10Was this, Mark, was this a game where Spain announced themselves as real contenders
16:14for the tournament? Or was this a case of Croatia just being deeply disappointing on the day?
16:20Probably somewhere in the middle of that. I think I mentioned it on social media on
16:24Saturday that I thought this tournament might just be a tournament too early for the Spain side.
16:29You know, when you look at the quality they have, they just don't have that
16:33experience. You know, you look at the younger players, I think two years down the line,
16:37four years down the line, they will be serious contenders for World Cups, for Euros. But I think
16:42this one might be a bit too early, but God, they're fun to watch. They are so much fun to
16:46watch. You look at the intensity, you look at the ability of the youngsters, they've got the brave
16:51on the ball. We spoke about England in the first half there, about the bravery England needed to
16:55show. The Spain side have got it in bucket loads. I sound like I'm convincing myself now they can
16:59win this. I think they will just fall short. I worry sometimes about them defensively,
17:04there is experience in that back four, but it's not necessarily national experience.
17:10There are players like Ron Lennoman, who's, I think he's only won eight caps now. So I just
17:14worry about them then when they come up against one of the really top sides. For Croatia's point
17:19of view, you know, I think what a story they've been over the last sort of 10, 15 years. You know,
17:24you look at the players, they're pretty good for quite a small country. Going back to Graham
17:27Souness's comments, of course, about Scotland, when you look at the population of Croatia,
17:32how they keep producing top, top players is remarkable. And I could watch Luka Modric play
17:37all day. I really could, but I think this is the end for this current crop and we'll see what they
17:42produce next. Yeah. I mean, it does have a bit of a feel of sort of one last job, doesn't it?
17:48It's like one of those old movies for the Croatia team. That midfield is so good, but
17:52even for someone like me thinks they look a bit older at this point and I'm older than most of
17:55them. Looking at who are there? There's still more possession though, guys. I mean, you know,
18:00Croatia still dominated possession, you know, at the time, especially in that second half,
18:03but 55%. So it just shows, like I said, Mark made a great point. I think Spain is so fun to watch
18:09and how clinical they've been. Absolutely brilliant in that first half. They blew them
18:12away and they're always going to give away a little bit of possession, I guess, in the second
18:14half. They can relax, but goodness me, I still think Croatia will go through in their group.
18:18I still think they've got a lot of quality in there, especially with, you know, the third
18:21place teams as they are and you can still get through, but I expect them to probably finish
18:26to be through into the next round and, you know, they'll still give a couple of teams a scare. They
18:30won't be as bad as that, I think, and they'll learn that pretty quickly. I wouldn't write them
18:34off too much. Yeah, an amazing stat I saw after the game was that that was the first match in 15
18:39years where Spain had less possession than their opposition, which is absolutely extraordinary.
18:45But I've been talking about their group, as you mentioned, you expect Croatia to get through.
18:48Italy are also in there as well, of course, reigning champions. They overcame an absolutely
18:52shocking start to beat Albania 2-1. What were your thoughts on that game, Nathan?
18:57How did Italy look? Yeah, you know, it was an interesting game, wasn't it? Like you say,
19:02was it Barrami's goal, the early goal? Absolute nightmare with the throw-in.
19:07And then they should go on and do you think when they score that second goal so early on and it's
19:112-1 that they go on and probably blow them away? And it didn't really happen too much.
19:16I still think they've got some decent players there. But to be honest, when I'm looking at
19:21the tournament favourites, we're talking about England, Germany, Portugal, France. I don't think
19:27Italy quite get up to those kind of levels. They've still got, like I say, some very strong
19:33players. And, you know, the dominated possession in the end, I think was 70-30, as you'd expect.
19:37But I think a lot of people have this as a bit of a drubbing and it didn't really happen.
19:42To be honest, I wasn't a massive fan when they start expanding these competitions and World
19:47Cups and Euros, but you saw the Albanian fans before and you saw the, I don't know if you saw
19:52the great scenes with them breaking the pasta and having a bit of crack with the Italians before.
19:56I mean, that's what you want and, you know, full stadiums. And I looked at it and I go, well, yeah,
20:00this is why they make it. So I hold my hands up, I've got it wrong. Teams like Albania, that's who
20:05you want in these kind of tournaments. And like you say, when they score a goal within the first
20:09minute or so, I think was the quickest ever goal in European championship history. That's what you
20:13want. Those are the kind of scenes you want. But yeah, I think Italy obviously deserved it,
20:17but I think they'll be a bit disappointed, of course, with conceding and then maybe not going
20:20on and making that more comfortable than what it should have been. Yeah, I think it's fair to say
20:24Albania have already brought more to the tournament than some of the naysayers thought they might have
20:28done both on and off the pitch. I suppose the other team we should really talk about among
20:32sort of the, not necessarily the absolute favourites, but among the more obvious contenders
20:36is the Netherlands. Mark, they beat Poland 2-1, not an entirely convincing fashion. How do you
20:42think they play? Do you think they look like a team that could sort of, you know, travel the other
20:46sides in this tournament or is that a performance that makes them look a little bit like also around?
20:50Yeah, I thought they really look like stereotypical quarterfinals and out
20:54sort of side. They have some top, top players in that squad. They have some players that, you know,
20:59grace the best leagues in Europe and make an impact in those leagues. But I just think they'll
21:04fall short of being a genuine contender. I can't see them going beyond the quarterfinals. I just
21:09think there's deficiencies in that squad that they can't fix at this point in the time.
21:14There is quality, unquestionably, just not enough to get through to the last four.
21:19Yeah, I think, I mean, apart from, well, we have an uninvited guest from somewhere, but that's
21:25someone who just disagrees with you and thinks the Netherlands will be going all the way, I think, by
21:28the sounds of it. Besides football and dogs, there's one other major talking point of the
21:34tournament so far has been the transport issues. Thousands of fans were stuck outside
21:39Gelsenkirchen after England games waiting for trams that were barely arriving. A lot of Scottish
21:43fans had problems with trains which were sort of, you know, constantly delayed or cancelled in the
21:48run-up to their game against the hosts as well. Now, obviously, UEFA aren't really responsible
21:53directly for, you know, German public transport. But at the same time, there's been a string of
21:56issues in recent years at UEFA games where there's been issues with transport. You think about the
22:02Champions League final Istanbul last year, where a lot of Man City fans were stuck miles away from
22:06the city centre. You think about sort of some of the policing and stewarding issues we saw at the
22:10last Euros, the final outside Wembley and in Paris for the Champions League final in 2022,
22:16with all the Liverpool fans and the dangerous situation that got there. Nathan, do you think
22:20that UEFA really need to be doing something more to sort this out? Or is this something that
22:26can't really be avoided? Or what can be done to make it better, I suppose, is what I'm asking.
22:30Absolutely, they've got to do it. And, you know, these are the people, the infrastructures of these
22:34places. It's not as if, you know, we're going to places that haven't hosted big tournaments before,
22:38you know, you talk about England, you talk about Germany, you're talking about, you know, France,
22:43you know, with Champions League finals, this is happening time and time again. And it's dangerous,
22:47like you say, Matt, it's dangerous, because when you've got these players, and you've got
22:51frustrated people wanting to get in and out of the stadium, who are absolutely getting jam packed,
22:55you are going to have a serious incident on your hand very, very soon. And it's really bad. Don't
23:01have the fans two or three miles outside of the stadium and shipping them in if you're going to
23:04do that. Have them close to the stadium. Open the ground earlier. There are ways and means. This
23:09isn't everybody turning up at the last minute. You know, these people are getting to the ground in
23:12plenty of time. They are being patient, they are waiting, but it is the infrastructure that's
23:16stopping it, and the lack of planning and the lack of people who are available. It's shocking. And,
23:21you know, it's an expensive trip to go and watch your country these days, as it is.
23:25Premier League football is expensive, but so is watching your country. And those scenes,
23:29they cannot happen. These are 10, 11-hour days. It should be maybe five or six.
23:37Well, that's all we've got time for on this episode of We Can Be Euros. Many thanks to Nathan
23:41Judah and Mark Carruthers for joining me, to our producer Mark Wilson, and, of course, to all of
23:45you for watching. We'll be back on Friday, hopefully, with our next episode. Until then,
23:49you can catch up with all of our episodes and lots of other great football content on
23:53ShotsTV.com. We hope we'll see you soon. Goodbye.